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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull.

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Speaker 2: That for me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard

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Speaker 2: so many players say, well, I want to be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? Eta Steak

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Speaker 2: is that woo whoom?

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Speaker 1: And then and tie Dan Rubinstein. Week eight was so

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Speaker 1: dubbed snake in the toilet Saturday when we do good Yeah,

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Speaker 1: our Thursday preview episode and as we come on the

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Speaker 1: air this evening. It was a week in which number one,

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Speaker 1: number seven, number eleven, and number twenty four all lost.

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Speaker 1: We will go through that and much much more. It

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Speaker 1: was an eventful week. Not necessarily a ball of snakes,

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Speaker 1: I think is the term for a group of them.

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Speaker 2: Sure, or a den whatever, whatever your preference is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not necessarily a group of them jumping up and

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Speaker 1: biting a bunch of teams. But as it stands, we

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Speaker 1: got more phone calls to the reverb line, which we'll

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Speaker 1: get to a little bit later than we have in

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Speaker 1: a good long time. There were just a number of

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Speaker 1: really interesting games and storylines and talking points and narratives

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Speaker 1: to sink our teeth into tees, teeth.

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Speaker 2: Into no no ty stick with teeths. That's you've been

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Speaker 2: on this planet for forty plus years, and this is

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Speaker 2: where we've.

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Speaker 1: Arrived to stick our teeths into. We're going to do

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Speaker 1: our best over the next hour or so to walk

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Speaker 1: you all through it. Dan, how you doing? What were

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on today? You excited to get into this?

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Speaker 1: Where do you want to start?

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Speaker 2: So my elbow has been sore for quite some time

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Speaker 2: but my arm sore on is probably doesn't compare at

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Speaker 2: all to the student section at Texas with the way

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Speaker 2: that they were winging those bottles without stretching beforehand. Look,

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Speaker 2: they tried their best to affect things in this game.

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Speaker 2: It didn't quite work out. They affected a call, but

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Speaker 2: you know, shout out to them not. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: the prize of youth, right that you don't have to

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Speaker 2: stretch like an older guy like I do before you're

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Speaker 2: winging beer bottles and water bottles onto a field of play.

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Speaker 2: But man, they're gonna be feeling it in the morning,

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Speaker 2: and it's a valuable lesson that resistance bans proper warm ups.

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Speaker 2: That's the move ty always.

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Speaker 1: Over the next hour or so, we're gonna go through

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Speaker 1: about the top twelve or so items that you need

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Speaker 1: to know in order to feel a little bit dangerous

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, maybe as you go into the office on Monday,

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Speaker 1: which that post is gonna drop bright and early tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: There will be some movement, for sure. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that and much much more. And of course disclaimer, anything

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Speaker 1: we don't cover today we're going to do our best

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Speaker 1: to cover on the Tuesday episode, the spillover episode. Why

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Speaker 1: don't we start with the Georgia Texas game. It was

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Speaker 1: the show piece of the weekend. It was the big end,

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Speaker 1: the one that everybody was talking about. It was the

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Speaker 1: biggest night game in a pretty good slate of night games.

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Speaker 1: To be real, it was a pretty good slate of

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Speaker 1: night games. But Georgia thirty Texas fifteen Georgia jumped out

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Speaker 1: about how Texas could not block the Georgia defense, oh

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Speaker 1: the pace of play, the mistakes, the uncharacteristic mistakes that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it wasn't that. The mistakes weren't limited to

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Speaker 2: this was a game just absolutely decided by the pressure

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I thought it was impressive the way

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Speaker 1: I think that arch Manning came in at the end

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Speaker 2: Block down twenty to nothing at that time.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three to nothing at halftime was what.

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Speaker 1: move the ball on this Georgia front. Flipping gears a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was absolutely Georgia sort of tinkering on

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Speaker 2: You know that he wants to creatively get guys open downfield,

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Speaker 2: you're talking about guys that are open intermediate with Mikel

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Speaker 2: more tested team going into this atmosphere, which was the

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Speaker 2: clear game of the week. You know, Texas had the

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Speaker 2: in the sky. This was enormous and it's not Texas's

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Speaker 2: but they don't have an offense this year, right, And

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Speaker 2: self scouting that Texas just hasn't had the opportunity to do.

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Speaker 2: I think Texas is going to get better from this point.

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Speaker 1: Look, as we've been saying for a while, the SEC

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Speaker 1: But the push pull between the Georgia passing offense and

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Speaker 1: that would make them a better team. But suffice to say,

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Speaker 1: it's notable on the Texas side too that one of

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Speaker 1: the other things we brought up was who had Texas

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Speaker 1: what was there any kind of speed bump effect, anything,

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Speaker 1: culture shock right of playing suddenly a team that was

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Speaker 2: I think that Texas offensive line, which just tested in

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Speaker 2: it speaks to I don't know George's ability to you know,

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Speaker 2: I guess like there's just there's a certain amount of

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Speaker 2: doesn't lose ten out of ten times, but we'll lose

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Speaker 2: nine out of ten, eight out of ten times. Starting

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Speaker 1: They were the better team tonight for sure. My final

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Speaker 1: because we got a lot to talk about this week.

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Speaker 1: How far do you drop Texas? How far up do

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Speaker 2: So where did they come in this game?

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Speaker 1: Well, Texas was one, Georgia was five in the ap pole.

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Speaker 2: I would drop Texas to a round five. I guess

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Speaker 2: I'd probably go Oregon one, Ohio State two. I'd probably

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Speaker 2: put Georgia three.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I don't know if there's a

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: My suspicion is if I were voting, I will vote

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Speaker 1: in RV ball or top twelve poll, I would probably

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Speaker 1: put Georgia ahead of Penn State. Yeah, but the fact

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Speaker 1: all are still undefeated. Well, I guess Ohio State's not undefeated.

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Speaker 2: It feels like if you just adjust Nico to that

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Speaker 2: The defense came up big for Tennessee. They kept the

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Speaker 1: Think it's a failed experiment, I know, but like it

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Speaker 1: Right now, as it stands, there are two, count them,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw Kurt Signetti, but Kurt

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Speaker 1: Because Indiana was rocking and boomington for this game against Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: contrast BYU in a couple cases now has found ways

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Speaker 1: just to scrape and claw and win. And I'm not

436
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Speaker 1: comparing the two in terms of who would win if

437
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 1: they played. But Indiana is going out there and they

438
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: are beating the absolute breaks off of everybody they play.

439
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: There is now a question of, like, if we're talking

440
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Speaker 1: to our kids about Indiana, as we like to do

441
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: on this show, what is the context for that conversation

442
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Speaker 1: and how high should they be ranked now in light

443
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Speaker 1: of this win.

444
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Speaker 2: I think they played like a top ten team. They

445
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 2: played like a team that didn't along on the same

446
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 2: field as Nebraska, like it was insulting. We watched Nebraska

447
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: attempt to stop Indiana and move the ball against Indiana

448
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: like it very quickly became a waste of all of

449
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 2: our time to hope that Nebraska could compete with Indiana,

450
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: which is such a weird feeling in the Big Ten

451
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: universe that Indiana is wasting its time. They're not wasting

452
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: its time, but that they're this form did I don't

453
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Speaker 2: know how good Nebraska as you say, you know, middle

454
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: class maybe upper middle class of the Big ten. Somebody

455
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Speaker 2: drops fifty, Well was fifty six to seven?

456
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Speaker 1: Fifty six to seven.

457
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Speaker 2: The best you can say about Nebraska's tea right now

458
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: is TBD, Like they don't deserve any benefit of the doubt.

459
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: Like I know it's a freshman. I know that this is,

460
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 2: you know, a full rebuild job by Matt Ruhle, But

461
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: this is year one of ideas.

462
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Speaker 1: This is your you know what's not like a fully

463
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: formed Indiana. Yet what this reminded me of and it

464
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: wasn't so long ago. Yeah, my guess is it reminds

465
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Speaker 1: you a little bit of this as well. But when

466
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: Lance Lipold was getting things going at Kansas in year two,

467
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: in year three, and Kansas very quickly went from being

468
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: basically a laughing stock to a team that not only

469
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: could compete, but could beat you right, And it was

470
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: clear if you watch those games. There was maybe a

471
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: few smoke and mirrors, but by a large it was

472
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: a good team and they were well coached and you

473
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: could see it. Indiana, to me, feels a lot like that. Actually,

474
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: they feel better because they're not using the smoke and mirrors.

475
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: There weren't trick plays, there weren't any any goofy scenarios

476
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: in that game against the Brown they just kind of

477
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: murdered them. And so for me to kind of come

478
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: to this place while watching this game, it's kind of

479
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: a weird place to be where you're watching this and

480
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Damn, Indiana actually is really good. These numbers

481
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing on the spreadsheet, these are legit numbers. Again,

482
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: we got to see what they do against better teams

483
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: on the schedule. They will have their opportunities, but and

484
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: Indiana's got a chance to win ten games, Dan, and

485
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: right now it feels like it's more likely than not

486
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Speaker 1: after what we saw today.

487
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Speaker 2: There's seven and zero at the moment, Washington at home, winnable,

488
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: Michigan State on the road. Even with Michigan State's improoved

489
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Speaker 2: performance beating Iowa tonight, winnable, Michigan State has not been

490
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: all that good this year. Michigan will fall out of

491
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Speaker 2: the top twenty five. That game is in Indiana winnable

492
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: after obviously losing with how they score points, very little

493
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Speaker 2: fight with how they score points. Yes, Ohio State on

494
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Speaker 2: the road. I'm not comfortable calling that game winnable for

495
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Speaker 2: Indiana in this moment. I'm going to come down just

496
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: a little bit from that high. And then the Oaken

497
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 2: Bucket game at home winnable. So yes, anything at this

498
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: point I feel comfortable saying that anything less than double

499
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Speaker 2: digits this year for Indiana. Wild as that may sound, Hey,

500
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Speaker 2: whatever is a disappointment, and not having Indiana in a

501
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: playoff conversation this moment seems kind of foolish.

502
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Speaker 1: Let's shift gears. Let's go over to the big twelve

503
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Speaker 1: if we can. I think a lot of the conversation

504
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 1: around the Big Twelve has been trying to put together

505
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: a tier system now to help us understand it because

506
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: so much of the conference feels almost on the same plane.

507
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Speaker 1: I personally have had a hard time getting behind BYU.

508
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: Sure, I just have.

509
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: I've looked at my sheets and they're at least in

510
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Speaker 1: the early part of the season, it felt like what

511
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: I was seeing on the field and the results I

512
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: was seeing on the page, we're not matching up with

513
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Speaker 1: some of the statistical stuff. Winning is a skill, yes

514
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Speaker 1: it is. I agree whinning is a skill. And BYU

515
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: I think has to their credit, gotten better. They have

516
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: gotten more efficient as an offense. Jake Retzlov has had

517
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: a great season. He continues to improve week in and

518
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Speaker 1: week out. And what we saw on Friday night that

519
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: game against Oklahoma State was a very tough football team.

520
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: I think I joke with you earlier, but this was

521
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: one where I fell asleep early, woke up late, and

522
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: caught the last eight minutes or so of this game,

523
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: and I thought they were dead to rights. Oklahoma State

524
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: marched down the field, they had a seventeen play drive,

525
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: They ate about eight and a half minutes off the clock.

526
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Speaker 1: They threw a short touchdown pass to Brendan Presley with

527
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: about a minute and thirteen seconds left, and it seemed

528
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: as if there was no way, know how BYU could

529
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: find a way to win this game. And sure enough,

530
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: they marched down the field very quickly. They end up

531
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Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown with you know, a couple seconds left,

532
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Speaker 1: and they find a way to steal victory from the

533
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Speaker 1: jaws of defeat thirty eight to thirty five. Jake Reetzlov

534
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: had a great quote, It's magical, it's spiritual. How can

535
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: you not be romantic about this game? I mean, really

536
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: good vibes right now if you're a BYU fan, especially

537
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: when you kind of compare the vibes now to where

538
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: things were at the start of the season. At the

539
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: start of the season, there were big questions about quarterback.

540
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: There were bigger questions about their position groups, for sure,

541
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Speaker 1: and certainly looking at the schedule, the schedule looked like

542
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: it was really going to be a murderer's throw, and

543
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: BYU has handled it incredibly well, incredibly well now to

544
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: that point. They were sloppy in this game. There were

545
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: more turnovers than usual in this game. For all intents

546
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: and purposes, this was a clunker that BYU played that

547
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: had a very dramatic ending, but winning as a skill.

548
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: Winning a skill. And look who we have left on

549
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: their schedule. A UCF team that can't quite figure out

550
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: how to win. If you watched any bit of their

551
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: game tonight, a ton of huge plays from both Jakari

552
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: Brown and r. J. Harvey, Yes, couldn't make it count. Ultimately,

553
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: as Iowa State comes back, Utah seems more winnable. It's

554
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: on the road, though, but they have a bye before

555
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: that week. In the Holy War, it's an Isaac Wilson Utah.

556
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: They're playing right now against TCU. I don't have a

557
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: score of Utah TCU in this moment. At Arizona State,

558
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: we'll see what Sam Levitt's health is in that moment.

559
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: Kansas maybe a little bit better. And Houston there's a

560
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: lot wow. I b YU is likely going to lose

561
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: a game or two, okay, but you can't get away

562
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: every week with was it thirty eight thirty five? Oklahoma

563
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: State needing to come back and overcome penalty not penalties

564
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: but turnovers. But I don't know, man, It's just sometimes

565
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: there's just the pixie dust falls on your team. And

566
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: the pixie dust is falling in provo. And I don't

567
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: mean that in an insulting way. It's a great thing

568
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: to have happened to your team, And as you would

569
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: probably attest, you would have loved a little bit of

570
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: pixie dust in that NIU Notre Dame game. Just let's

571
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: just win with a little bit of luck this week, guys.

572
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: Well, look, you'll take luck whoever you can get it. Season,

573
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: it's a long season. Iowa State also survived thirty eight

574
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: thirty five, and they were down twenty eight to fourteen

575
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: midway through the third quarter. This was one of my

576
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: money bets that I posted online. I was sweating this one.

577
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: I didn't win the bet. I didn't even come close

578
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: to winning the bet. They're lucky they won the game,

579
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: but as you said, gave up a ton of big

580
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: plays on defense, also through a pick six. They almost

581
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: had another pick six that UCF took, ran with, dropped

582
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: before the end zone, got the ball back, and then

583
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Speaker 1: scored a touchdown.

584
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Speaker 2: It was it was they got it back because they

585
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: didn't rule the ball being fumbled and recovered.

586
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, correct, So a very fortuitous circumstance for UCF

587
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: to even have the ball to have an opportunity to

588
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: punch it in and score the touchdown to get it

589
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: to thirty five points at all. But this is another

590
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: case of UCF finding a way not to win, and

591
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: Iowa stayed at home, playing in a clunker, falling behind early,

592
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: staying the course, finding a way to kind of see

593
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: this thing through and remain unbeaten. As it stands right now,

594
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: they're only two unbeaten teams in the Big Twelve. They

595
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: are by U and Iowa State. And after that you've

596
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: got three teams tied with one loss in conference. Kansas State,

597
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: who absolutely rolled West Virginia. That game was not close,

598
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: just destroyed.

599
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: Aubrey Johnson's powering up tie.

600
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Speaker 1: I know i'd play my sound, but it's I don't

601
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: want to dwell too much on this. It was just

602
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: a total beatdown of West Virginia in Morgantown at night.

603
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: A very nice win for KSE State. Texas Tech only

604
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: has one loss in conference, that's against Baylor, Right, it

605
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: wasn't just a loss.

606
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're if you're going with the theme

607
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: of teams getting stomped, Kansas State did some stomping. UCF

608
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: did some stomping in a losing effort and I Aloway

609
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: stay one in a losing effort. Everybody tried to lose

610
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: that game somehow, some way. But you're absolutely right, Jas

611
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: Attack only one loss, but hey, Baylor.

612
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: Welcome destroyed them. And in Cincinnati, Cincinnati and Colorado those

613
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: are your final two teams that have one loss.

614
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: Out in Colorado stomps Arizona and Cincinnati playing Jeff Simms

615
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: Asu who wasn't like as bad as Jeff Simms was

616
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: at Nebraska at least, and Paul Tyson got going camp

617
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: Scataboo made plays. Cincinnati, Brendan Soorsby has been like very

618
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: quietly very good for the Bearcats.

619
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Speaker 1: Is here Let's shift over to the ACC where it

620
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: seems as though we know the top two teams in

621
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Speaker 1: the conference. I don't know if there's a whole lot

622
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: of mystery that it is Miami and Clemson at this

623
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: point that was solidified today given the fact that Miami

624
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: knocked off Louisville gave Lousville another loss, it feels as

625
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: if these two teams are are headed towards each other.

626
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: The Miami Louville game earlier in the day might have

627
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: been the craziest game of the day.

628
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: I mean from the jump, Joe Test was reacting to

629
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: like four yard game for Miabbi.

630
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: He was doing the WWE gig while he was calling

631
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: this game. It was it was extremely intense. I hope

632
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: he's okay, I like Joe Tests.

633
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: Oh he's great.

634
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, But this was a wild game. This is a

635
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: wild game. It was litt a whole lot of defense

636
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: in this game, certainly in the second half. Cam Ward

637
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: had four touchdowns. Cam Ward in this game showcased all

638
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: the things that I think make people really excited to

639
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: watch cam Ward and it's not a surprise at this point.

640
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: They talked in the broadcast about how he's giving the

641
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: team leadership that it hasn't had in a while. It

642
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: could just be that he's giving the team skills that

643
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: it hasn't had in a while that plays a role

644
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: in leadership as well, and so he certainly has that

645
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: part of it. It's another game, and I you know,

646
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: I hate to kind of water down the win by

647
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: saying that, but there are a couple games, two in

648
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: particular on Miami schedule moving forward where they're on the

649
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: road and you can envision another close circumstance. I feel

650
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: like at this point Miami is very well positioned to

651
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: be a playoff team. I feel like Miami, even with

652
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: the loss, given where the ACC is at, is going

653
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: to find its way into that ACC title game, most

654
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: likely against Clemson. All Right, But I just wonder how

655
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: many more of these Miami can pull out? How many

656
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: more of these can they pull out?

657
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: Now?

658
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: They got a good amount of separation late in this game,

659
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: all right. The final score is fifty two to forty five.

660
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: It's not like Louisville was a play or two away

661
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: from winning this game. Miami hit the gas, they ended

662
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: up pulling away, and then they just held on. All right,

663
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: But I just I watched this game, and we've talked

664
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: about this now a couple times. I just worry. I

665
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: worry that this version of Miami is going to find

666
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: a way to get into one of these road games

667
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: and they're not going to find their way out. Thankfully,

668
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: they got cam Ward and he could paper over a

669
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: lot of sins, but at some point one of these

670
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: games is going to come back to bite him.

671
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying, but like, whose defensive front

672
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: is going to give Miami trouble like Georgia techs Dukes.

673
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be Louis Louisville was supposed to

674
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: be the one.

675
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: I agree, and they did. They did give him some trouble.

676
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: They gave him some trouble, and they were able to

677
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 1: get pressure on cam Ward in spots in this game,

678
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: and that that did kind of change the dynamic a bit.

679
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: So that that line is what I was looking at

680
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back when we were trying to

681
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: figure out where where are the potential AMD mines for

682
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: the Keynes. Having gotten over this hump, now, it's a

683
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: fair question to ask, and I don't know if there's

684
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: an obvious answer to it. But that being said, I

685
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: mean I had trouble with cal had trouble with Virginia Tech,

686
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: the Virginia Tech games at home, right. There are some

687
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: games now on the road the rest of the way

688
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: that I could kind of squint and see another game

689
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: like this where Miami is playing for its life.

690
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: But I still think, like, look, if they lose to Duke,

691
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: they lose to Duke. If they lose to Georgia Tack,

692
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: they lose to Georgia Tech. If they lose to Syracuse.

693
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: They lose to Syracuse, They're losing one of those games. Max.

694
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: To me, I agree, just because the way that that

695
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: offense operates, with how hard Damian Martinez runs with, like

696
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: the immediate chemistry between cam Ward and Xavier Strepo and

697
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: now it was Sam Brown, the Houston transfer had a

698
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: great touchdown cat Like. They could win one of those

699
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: games fourteen ten, and it could be ugly and it

700
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: could be weird. They could have to come back against Syracuse.

701
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: So that's in the whatever JMI, JMA, wireless Dome UH

702
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: to finish out the season. All that matters right now

703
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: is Clemson, Clemson, Clemson, Clemson. Clem's Clemson. And so you

704
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: can say and be right, like this thing about Miami

705
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: is terrifying that they're giving up these long runs or

706
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: that they're losing guys like Jacory Brooks, you know, downfield,

707
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: and that worries me against you know, Bryant westco or whoever.

708
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: Four I'm sin but at this point Miami would have

709
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: to be part of such a full collapse to lose

710
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 2: two games with what the rest of their schedule has.

711
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I agree, I completely agree, and I stand by

712
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: what I said on Tuesday Miami gets in and as

713
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 1: an at large with one loss, they're going to lose

714
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: one of these guys. I'm sorry, they're going to lose

715
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: one of these games. They're going to lose a Georgia tack.

716
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: They might lose to Syracuse on the road to close

717
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: out the season. But they're they're they're finding their way

718
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: into some of these games where they have to pull

719
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: a stunt late in order to get some separation. And

720
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: it's happened a couple times over now. It's just part

721
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: of their identity. It's a very good team. And you know,

722
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: I picked in the win the ACC So if it happens,

723
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: I'm kind of right one way or the other. I'm

724
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: in good shape. But I'm just sing, I'm just I'm

725
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: just looking at the schedule and I don't like these

726
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: a waste spots.

727
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't watching Miami fans remember the old Gallagher. There

728
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 2: were two Gallaghers.

729
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: I don't know I where he smashes the watermelon.

730
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: Smashes the watermelon right, whether it's just like a new

731
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: stunt every time Gallagher's doing something. And everybody out there

732
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: that watched Comedy Central at midnight in nineteen ninety one,

733
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: knows what I'm talking about such a very specific reference,

734
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: But there's always something with these Miami games. There's always something.

735
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: There's a kick return for a touchdown out of nowhere,

736
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: there's a weird penalty that's reviewed for fourteen minutes. There's

737
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: always something with these Miami games. Which is why I

738
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: think you're right that there is a decent shot that

739
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: something weird is going to lead to them losing one

740
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: of these games. And I don't think it will ultimately matter.

741
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: It won't and look always as regards to getting to

742
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: the ACC champions.

743
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 1: In regards to gaining of that title game. It's also

744
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: really unfair for me to frame the conversation this way

745
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: because this was a fun game. Miami had all of

746
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: its key talent on display. It wasn't just cam Ward,

747
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: it was Xavier Ristreppo was I mean, truly, this is

748
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: a good team.

749
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, to be.

750
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: At this point seven and oh three and oho in conference,

751
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: to seemingly be on this collision course with Clem's, and

752
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: I realize by saying that, I'm probably doing a bit

753
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: of a disservice to SMU, who I ultimately think will

754
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: get into that playoff game or into that conference championship game,

755
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: excuse me, and be left off the playoff and Pitt.

756
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: Pitt remains unbeaten in conference, unbeaten overall. There arefore, I think,

757
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: pretty good teams atop the ACC at this point two

758
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: that I think are a cut above the rest. It's

759
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: gonna work itself out over the next three weeks or so.

760
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna find.

761
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: This is Clemson finished with quickly.

762
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: Clemson finishes with it. I mean, it's an interesting slate

763
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the way for the Clemson Tigers.

764
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: So they have Pitt, but everybody else is lost.

765
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: They've got Louisville in a couple of weeks at Virginia

766
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: Tech at Pitt the Citadel in South Carolina. Wow.

767
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: Uh So then SMU finishes also with Pitt, So Pitt

768
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: will have opportunities.

769
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: The biggest game, the biggest game, hear me, I kind

770
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: of don't play each other, don't. And this is why,

771
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: this is why I kind of favorite SMU to get

772
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: to that title game if my theory holds a Miami

773
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: dropping one. But SMU has a big game on November two.

774
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: It's a game that nobody is talking about. They are

775
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: at home and they are hosting Pitt. The winner of

776
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: that game stands to gain an awful lot and awful

777
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: I agree, So just kind of have that one circled.

778
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: It's not going to make headlines. There are other bigger

779
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: games that weekend, namely Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon Michigan.

780
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: I guess Oregon Michigan doesn't mean as much as it

781
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: used to, right, But that Pit SMU game in the

782
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: ACC in the title match, a title chase, that that

783
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: matchup means a lot.

784
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not a huge believer in Pitt at at

785
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: this juncture, just seeing how some of their close wins

786
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: those teams have fared, uh, namely West Virginia and cal

787
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: But Pitt has the has the opportunity with Clemson and

788
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 2: SMU on the back half for their schedule. It'd be fascinating, Dan.

789
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: Would you like to play a game of Hey, how

790
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: much is that guy's buy out?

791
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: Again? Oh God, this is gonna hurt me, but yes.

792
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: How much is Lincoln Riley's buy out? Any idea?

793
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: You told me this, You told me this, and all

794
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: I remember was it was like Jimbo.

795
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: Esque eighty eight million dollars. Dan, that's a lot of potatoes.

796
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: Usc is now three and four. They dropped a game

797
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: on the road to Maryland. We were watching this. I

798
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: threw five whole American dollars on the Maryland live line

799
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: at the time, which was plus thirteen and a half,

800
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: which in retrospect felt like it was shooting fish in

801
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: a barrel.

802
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: I must have been very convincing when I was like,

803
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: look at this game is close near the end, US

804
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: he's losing.

805
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how we even talk about this team

806
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: at this point. I can only imagine how frustrating it

807
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: is if you are a USC fan to see these

808
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: close losses. I mean we joked on the stream that

809
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: we did that. Lincoln Riley can now say they lost

810
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: four games by six points or whatever the fourteen but yeah,

811
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: whatever it is. What like they can't get rid of them.

812
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't think they've got that kind of money. I

813
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: don't think they've got that kind of desire to cut

814
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: the cord at this point. What next?

815
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: Like?

816
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: Where? What?

817
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 4: How?

818
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: Who?

819
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: What?

820
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: Do you even say?

821
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: There are certain positions they can get better at in

822
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: the portal. We saw what they were able to do

823
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: with Jordan Natison a couple of years ago. They can

824
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 2: get game changers. There you can get a premium receiver

825
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: in the portal, and we've seen it this year. We

826
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: will see it every year that those types of players

827
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: will command money and USC will find a way. Are

828
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: they a Miller Moss team next year? I think he's

829
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: still eligible next year. He's a pretty good quarterback. He's

830
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: an excellent quarterback.

831
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: He's been okay, he hasn't had a lot of time.

832
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 2: He hasn't had a lot of time. And to build

833
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: that offensive line into something that resembles what Lincoln had

834
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma, it seems like it's going to take time

835
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: from where they are right now. That's something that you

836
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: just can't solve in the portal. And to build up

837
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: depth on defense, it just seems like you need to

838
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: build that up in really aggressive recruiting classes. The USC

839
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: is recruiting in the South. This is more of an

840
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: off season topic and letting a bunch of other places

841
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: just pillage top talent on the West Coast, places that

842
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: they used to to have. And so you see them

843
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: look tired at the end of these games. They don't

844
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: have depth on this defense. Even though they improved on defense,

845
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 2: Maryland was moving the ball, they weren't doing a bunch

846
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 2: the first half of this game, but they were moving

847
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: the ball as this things got tight in this game,

848
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: Billy Edwards was making plays with his feet, making plays

849
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: with his arm. Roman Henby was getting out and getting

850
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: key first downs. This USC team just look tired. They

851
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 2: look thin and tired. They're beat up in their front

852
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: with Anthony Lucas and Rick Gentry out, and they have

853
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: good players on offense, but they don't have game changers.

854
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: Maryland's not that good this year. I'm not trying to

855
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: put them down on a day where they rushed the

856
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: field and had this big game. USC should not be

857
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 2: losing to Maryland flying across the country. I don't care

858
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: like the type of guys they have on this offense,

859
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: the Lincoln Riley's successes in the past on offense like

860
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: this is embarrassing for USC. Yeah, to have lost to Minnesota,

861
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: to have lost to Maryland the way that they did

862
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: to Penn State, the way that they did to Michigan.

863
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: You can say that they're this close to like a

864
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: much more impressive record, but you need to have the

865
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: skill of winning games that USC. They just don't have

866
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: that in their DNA at all.

867
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: They don't and I think it's only further emphasized by

868
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: the fact that they lost a quarterback like Cale Williams.

869
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: They're still kind of digging out from that. He went

870
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: seven and five last year, didn't he He won seven

871
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: and five last year, but it was pretty much all

872
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: on him, And I don't know if you can lean

873
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: on Miller Moss the same way the way you care

874
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: to Klee Williams, right, I mean, if you try to

875
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: do that again. Now, maybe they're a little bit better

876
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: rushing the football this season, but the calculus is different.

877
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: It is not the same as you're as part of

878
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: why US is over under was lower depends where you

879
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: got it. You might have got it at seven and

880
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: a half eight, but right now you're kind of pushing

881
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: the limits of whether or not that's something that's going

882
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: to catch because looking at the rest of the schedule,

883
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: I mean, there are more losable games on here. If

884
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: this is the version of sc.

885
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: They might not make a bowl game tie.

886
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy.

887
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Nebraska didn't belong on the field with Indiana,

888
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: so maybe they can beat in the like I don't know,

889
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: any given week, USC can lose to most teams in

890
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: this Conference Florida State's Mike Norvelle.

891
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: His buyout is sixty five million dollars. Dan Man, Florida

892
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: State's Friday Night Duke, Florida State dropped to one in six.

893
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: They lost to Duke, who, by the way, is six

894
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: and one. As a Duke fan rode into a hey,

895
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: we're the worst six and one team ever, but havever

896
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: You're going to a bowl. My man, great, you're going

897
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: to a bowl. I don't know what the appetite is

898
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: to get rid of a guy like a Mike norvel

899
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: Mike Norvell almost is not going anywhere. Mike Novell almost

900
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: got that Bama job, right. Mike Norvell is I think,

901
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: still pretty highly respected. But this has definitely been a

902
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: bit of a collapse. Absolutely, say the bare minimum, one

903
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: more loss, they are not going bowling. It has been

904
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: horrible on offense. The DJU thing has been a disaster

905
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: and now he's hurt. So this has just been a

906
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: full on tirefires who like to say on this show,

907
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: sixty five million dollars probably keeps him there. My guess is,

908
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: if we've got another season next year like we've got this,

909
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: that might be the moment when they cut the cord.

910
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: It is a crazy time in college football.

911
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: When are they going to raise money? Are they going

912
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: to go to Saudi Arabia to raise this money to

913
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: fire Mike Norval's.

914
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: That I was wondering, That's what I was wondering. I mean,

915
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: it might take something like that if they want to

916
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: do it this year.

917
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the Seminole Sovereign Wealth Fund.

918
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oklahoma brand Venables. His buyout is forty five million dollars.

919
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: They got drilled drilled by South Carolina at home. So

920
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: Michael Hawkins Junior, who made headlines having gotten that job

921
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: after they benched Jackson Arnold. He started the game three

922
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: for five for eighteen yards and two picks. Then they

923
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: bring Jackson Arnold in.

924
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

925
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: Notably now he has burned his red shirt, So if

926
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: that's something that he cared about, that's gone. It was fine,

927
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: But again at this point, the game's out of hand.

928
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: South Carolina won this game going away. It doesn't feel

929
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: like quarterback thing to me. They could play this quarterback

930
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: bingo as much as they want. They're really hurt, still

931
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: hurt out wide. That doesn't help play calling. Suspect offensive line,

932
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: very suspect. This is an offensive line thing first and foremost.

933
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: And we gave Bill Bidenbaugh a lot of credit I

934
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: think coming into the season that he would figure out

935
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: the line thing because he's very good at doing it.

936
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: That just has not taken and so Oklahoma finds itself

937
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: in a world of hurt. This is a really bad offense.

938
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: Dan a really bad offense a team that has I

939
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: think a pretty good defense, but there's only so much

940
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: a defense can do with no help whatsoever from the

941
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: offensive side of the football.

942
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: No, and look, you're right about the different factors at

943
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: play here. That Jackson Arrold didn't work out and he

944
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: was the quarterback of the future, and the line has

945
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: been a disaster, and the receivers have been super beat up.

946
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: It just feels like how long has Brent Bender This

947
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: is his third season there. Yeah, there isn't a ton

948
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: of depth at quarterback obviously the depth a receiver has

949
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: been hit. They doesn't seem like they've been super creative.

950
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: And honestly, for all of whatever, that was the final

951
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: score at thirty five to nine South Carolina. South Carolina

952
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: was scoring on defense. Their own offense wasn't incredible against Oklahoma,

953
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: and that final score makes it seem as if Oklahoma

954
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: didn't belong on the same field. Oklahoma has one side

955
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: of the ball pseudo figured out. They're still building up

956
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: depth there, They're still looking for star power there, and

957
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: there is some star power there on defense. But to

958
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: have one side of the ball completely fall off like

959
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 2: this and the receiver injury thing is just bad luck.

960
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: Offensive line has not gotten better over the course of

961
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: the time that Brent Ventables has been in Norman, and

962
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: that Jackson Arnold hasn't worked out. They see him in

963
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: practice the part of me, just like you've probably seen

964
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 2: that he's not the guy in practice. And yet here

965
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: we are with no plan other than a freshman.

966
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: Hey, three other ones, please scharl Moore's buy out is

967
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: only five million dollars.

968
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: Dan, it's an interesting conversation, but I don't know. I

969
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: think you have to give any any coach in the

970
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: shadow of what he is following a little more time

971
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: than a year.

972
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: Right, This is me shrugging one to seven. The offense

973
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: is a problem. Look, it's it's not just a quarterback thing.

974
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: It's finding the big plays. The quarterback I think is

975
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: always going to get the most attention, and it's certainly

976
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: not good at this point. They went to Jack Tuttle.

977
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: He at least threw for more yards. But in terms

978
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: of actually moving the football with any great degree of

979
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: success against Illinois, it just we were doing our stream

980
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: during this game and they were down twenty one to seven,

981
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: and it just felt completely hopeless like they might have

982
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: any opportunity of coming back in that game. It was

983
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: just full stop, It's not going to happen. And that's

984
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: a very very frustrating place to be. What I can't

985
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: really comprehend is the fact that they're having a season

986
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: like this on offense, having just won the national championship. Yeah,

987
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: you know, and there's certainly something to be said for

988
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: losing the coach and losing the quarterback and.

989
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: Turnovers jesse Men their defense, they lost a ton, Yeah,

990
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: lost a ton all right there. The coach, yep, a

991
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: fair amount back, but still losing a lot, right, and

992
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: so that you need to kind of bake that into

993
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: the cake. But to not have a better option at quarterback,

994
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: I don't know that that feels like a big miss.

995
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: It just feels like.

996
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: What was he supposed to do? So Jim Harbaugh is

997
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 2: the coach, the head coach of Michigan when the portal

998
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: opens last year and you're gonna go get Curtis Rourke,

999
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna go get Will Rogers, you're gonna go get

1000
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: Kyle McCord or something like some portal success story at quarterback,

1001
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: and you're gonna say, come to Michigan. And then they're

1002
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: gonna say, so, you're gonna be back next year, And

1003
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is gonna say, ah, who's to say, Oh, you.

1004
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: Mean to tell me they couldn't have got a quarterback.

1005
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: Even in that scenario, if Michigan comes calling for a

1006
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: transfer quarterback, this is a Michigan team, Michigan program that

1007
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: just won the national championship. You don't think they're going

1008
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: to find anybody solely because there's some uncertainty who's going

1009
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: to be that's more than just uncertainty. You don't think

1010
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: that they could find. And also the other side of

1011
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: this argument, Okay, well, i'll grant you that.

1012
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 2: Sure.

1013
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: The other side of this argument is they knew what

1014
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,479
Speaker 1: they had here. That's true, they knew what they had here.

1015
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: There has to have been somebody who would have signed

1016
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: on at Michigan, has to have been somebody. Oh to

1017
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: go into a season with Jack Tuttle and Alex Orgy

1018
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: and a former walk on. That was the plan. I'm

1019
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: sorry that is not a good plan.

1020
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: Well, the other question is, is Michigan a school that

1021
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: is willing to say, yeah, we'll pay a quarterback a

1022
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: million dollars? Is that? Is that Michigan's nil vision that

1023
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 2: we have the money and we are willing to spend

1024
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: that kind of money on a portal quarterback. Will Rogers

1025
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: committed to Kaylen de Bor and then decommitted when Kaylen

1026
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: de Bor left Washington for Alabama. He happened to come

1027
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: back after the fact. But that's a smaller scale situation

1028
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: than Jim Harbaugh. Will he won't he Kaylen de Bor

1029
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 2: when Alabama's a huge deal. But it's not like every

1030
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: school in America was dying to have the services of

1031
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: Will Rogers. So my question to you is, like Michigan

1032
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: losing Jim Harba is an enormous deal and there is

1033
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: such a robust market for a quality portal quarterback that

1034
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: you lose this huge name. Look who did Alabama lose

1035
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: in the portal when Nick Saban lost They lost their

1036
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: quarterback of the future right transferring to Ohio State. So

1037
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: it's just like there's such a risk there of or

1038
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: not risk, but like the opportunity to me is it's

1039
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: just so low when there's that much uncertainty given when

1040
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: the portal timing is.

1041
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: I just I can't get it through my head that

1042
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: they won the title and I understand that there was turnover,

1043
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: that they can't get a better quarterback. I don't know.

1044
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: I just wonder if there was some wishful thinking here

1045
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: that it would work out with Alex Orgi or somebody

1046
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: else and it didn't.

1047
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: Ty Ty, your school went four and eight. My school

1048
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 2: went out four and eight. Now these things happened two

1049
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: major programs. It happened era.

1050
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: Look, it's happening to Florida State.

1051
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: Now it's happened to Florida as we speak. Nobody's immune.

1052
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: Maybe George is immune, but like maybe Ohio State's immune.

1053
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: But what did they do with Luke Fickle that year

1054
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: when they just had unfortunate circumstances, Like sometimes there's just

1055
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: going to be that year for these schools.

1056
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: I don't I don't expect that Michigan would cut ties

1057
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: with schrollmore so quickly. But I'm just voting the buyout.

1058
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: We're playing the buyout game. Here are two that I

1059
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: think could happen. Okay, we're gonna move on. Okay, we've

1060
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: got more things to discuss. Mark Stoops's buyout is four

1061
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: million dollars at Kentucky with some of his public comments,

1062
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: my senses there is frustration there, and sure it does

1063
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: not seem like Kentucky is on any kind of upward

1064
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: path at this point. They right to leave to take

1065
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: them job, tried to take the A and M job.

1066
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: They lost to Florida pretty handily today, and then I

1067
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: don't know if Purdue's got nine and zero point three

1068
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: million dollars laiter around, But it does not feel like

1069
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 1: the Ryan Walters situation at present is very sustainable. Now, granted,

1070
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: played Oregon. Orgon might be the number one team in

1071
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: the country at some point tomorrow afternoon. Yeah, it feels

1072
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: like that is a bad situation. Had a game a

1073
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: week ago where they scored a lot of points in

1074
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: the second half and it was fun.

1075
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: Still lost, got shut out against Oregon.

1076
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: At a shutout, it's just nine point three million dollars

1077
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: for Ryan Walters.

1078
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: I mean, in a situation like Walters, there has to

1079
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: be a reason for optimism that you have to see.

1080
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: You have to squint and see the light at the

1081
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: end of the tunnel, whether it's recruiting, whether it's close losses,

1082
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: whether it's a specific position group getting way better. And

1083
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: I guess you could point to the second half of

1084
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 2: the Illinois game. That's the only thing you can point

1085
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: to essentially this season against a quality opponent, saying like, oh,

1086
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: there's something there, and then they put up zero points

1087
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: the next time they played a quality opponent six days later.

1088
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 2: And so I don't think that's a ton of money

1089
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 2: if you're in the Big ten. Isn't that the whole

1090
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: point of being in the Big ten that you can

1091
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: write checks or co write checks with a booster or

1092
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: three to take care of a situation and pay Ryan

1093
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: Walters not to coach. They've had three play callers in

1094
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: a week. Two weeks. Ryan Walters took over play calling

1095
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: as an intensive background and took over the offensive play calling.

1096
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: By the way, that whole broadcast was a nightmare. The

1097
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: refs were a nightmare. In that game, Dylan Gabriel got

1098
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: called for intentional grounding when he threw a ball deep

1099
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: and a receiver cut in and came back for a pass.

1100
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: And the refs were like, oh, it's intentional grounding. You're like,

1101
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: he just had a miscommunication with his receiver that he

1102
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 2: wasn't being pressured.

1103
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: Are they taking the money away from the refs and

1104
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: get get to the conferences or funneling it somewhere else,

1105
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: because I feel like the officiating this year has been

1106
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: universally bad. There have been bad calls like I ever remember,

1107
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: and not just bad calls on unreviewable plays. I'm talking

1108
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: about going to the video monitors and still coming back

1109
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: with what looks like the wrong call, or in some cases,

1110
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: more frustratingly, not going to the video monitors at all.

1111
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: It's sort of confounding with how this sport has now

1112
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: meteorically risen through this era into this era big money,

1113
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: that that's the one aspect of things that feels like

1114
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: it's actually gotten worse, very strange.

1115
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: And if you're worried about games lasting longer's what's a

1116
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: better opportunity to show another Doctor Pepper commercial than a review.

1117
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: Everything has gotten better, but the officiating, and it's.

1118
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: Never been easier to have an ear piece in your

1119
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: ear and have somebody in the stadium in conference headquarters say,

1120
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: actually hold up we're going to review that last play, right.

1121
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't get it. It's never been easier to communicate

1122
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: that design.

1123
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: It's like they're waiting for the messenger pigeon to come

1124
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: down from the press box, just but you have the buzzer, Doude.

1125
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't get it. Oregon looked okay, their defense looked strong.

1126
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: Purdue ran a little bit. Dylan Gabriel came out right

1127
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: away and was very good. They had a stretch where

1128
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: they didn't do much on offense. They played a bunch

1129
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: of their their twos and threes on defense, and it

1130
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: was still a thirty five nothing win. It was a

1131
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: Tim Brando game, by the way, ohoat. I have nothing

1132
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: but respect for Tim Brando and his ability to sit

1133
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: down in that announcer's chair with the game about to

1134
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: kick off and say to himself, all right, who do

1135
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: we have playing this week? Who's who's on this team? Now?

1136
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: What are we doing? It's the best, the absolute.

1137
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: Best is sort of freelancing is it's a little bit

1138
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: of Matt libs going on.

1139
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: Like it's an improv game. It's Tim Brando, It's great.

1140
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: Who do we have organ Indie Purdue? All right, let's

1141
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: have fun out there. Oh no, yeah, it's so bad.

1142
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: It's so bad.

1143
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. What do you want to do next? Where

1144
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: are we going?

1145
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some lurkers.

1146
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: Man, Oh, that's some other lurkers.

1147
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: Look, I you know, I didn't know how to classify

1148
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: these teams, but I feel like they're lurking.

1149
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1150
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that highly of Miszoo, but they're lurking.

1151
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: They got one loss.

1152
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: You know what, that's a hell of a win. It

1153
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: is an ugly game between MISSOO and Auburn. That's a

1154
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: losable game to Auburn and Brady Cook leaving coming back,

1155
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: Drew Pine coming in, Brady Cook doing with his legs,

1156
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: doing with his arm like that. That was such a

1157
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: clunk of the win. I hold on, hold on, hold act,

1158
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: hold on.

1159
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are two things that we need to talk

1160
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: about here.

1161
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: Please let's go.

1162
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: The Zoo is number nineteen. They beat Auburn twenty one seventeen.

1163
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: Cop came back. Yeah for first off.

1164
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: The rest of their schedule they I've got Bama on

1165
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: the road next week, which who the hell knows? Yeah, great,

1166
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: also got Oklahoma, South Carolina, Mississippi State in arkasas those

1167
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: are four winnable games right now. They got one loss.

1168
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: Not a great Carolina will say.

1169
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, Brady Cook was out for a while. It

1170
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: looked like it was some kind of ankle injury, which meant, yes,

1171
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: we saw Drew Pine, your boy, my boy, Drew Pine

1172
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: was in there for a little bit. I saw some

1173
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: Miszoo fans joking online, why are we throwing more with

1174
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: Drew Pine than Brady Cook. Please don't do this to us.

1175
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: Eventually Cook came back in Missoo ends up scoring fifteen

1176
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter. I think a straight up

1177
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: push if you got this line at four. Here are

1178
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: the interesting nuggets though Brady Cook got hurt. Brady Cook

1179
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: actually went to the hospital during the game for an

1180
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: mries and then came back. We're from the hospital, okay, Yeah,

1181
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: came back from the hospital, was reinserted into the game,

1182
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: helped Missoo win that one again twenty one to seventeen.

1183
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: Other interesting factoid from our friend Justin Ferguson over at

1184
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: the Auburn Observer. Auburn's offense in this game had twelve

1185
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: drives against Maszoo. They went three and out five times,

1186
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: four and out once to end it. On the six

1187
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: other drives, they had four possessions with a first down

1188
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: inside Maszoo's forty yard line and scored exactly three points.

1189
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: On the remaining two drives, they had a big play

1190
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: touchdown and a fumble and and here's the kicker, Yeah,

1191
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: coming off of bye, coming off of by coming off

1192
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: of bye, silver lining that big play touchdown to cam Coleman. Gorgeous,

1193
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: very an absolute stunner of a pass and catch to

1194
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: cam Coleman. He's gonna look stunning in a different uniform

1195
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: in two years. I'm just like, just don't don't count

1196
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: Mazoo out of anything, all right, there might be another

1197
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: loss in there. This is obviously not a fully formed

1198
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: product at this point. I think we're learning that. But

1199
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: just bear in mind. Schedule is workable, and they showed

1200
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: some grit in winning this game. So that's one I agree.

1201
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: Despite the fact that you and I were pretty high

1202
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: on Arkansas, LSU destroyed Arkansas.

1203
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 2: Bad pick from me, hand up, bad pick from me.

1204
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: LSU destroyed Arkansas thirty four to ten. I've got LSU

1205
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: down in the worker category. I don't feel like enough

1206
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: people are talking about ls right now.

1207
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: Now they will what's the rest of their schedule.

1208
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: They will They will real soon, Dan, very soon, because

1209
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: LSU's got a game against BAMA coming up that I

1210
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: think is going to be a very big deal for them.

1211
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: LSU's got a game against Texas A and M coming up,

1212
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: which I think is going to potentially have some real

1213
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: world playoff implications. That game is on the road next

1214
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: week in Kyle Field. They've also got a game later

1215
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: in the year on the road at Florida. That game's

1216
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: always weird. Yeah, and Florida actually looked okay today they

1217
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: get with band or Built.

1218
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 5: Dan.

1219
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: I thought DJ Lagway was like six of sixteen for

1220
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty three yards. Yeah, Like, if it's

1221
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: going well for DJ Lagway, it's going crazy. Well, if

1222
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: it's not, it's a disaster. Scored a lot of.

1223
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: Points, and you know what the defense was. Okay, Yeah,

1224
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: they were just LSU a top ten team. Less you

1225
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: not getting the credit I think it deserves. I'll put

1226
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: number twelve Notre Dame as a lurker. Okay, Okay, Notre

1227
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: Dame right now, probably more so than any other team

1228
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: in college football, has an inside track to getting into

1229
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: that playoff. They needed to win this game against Georgia Tech,

1230
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: and they did. They did. Now, there was some disagreement

1231
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: among Arvar ballerhood as to whether or not Riley Leonard

1232
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: is getting better. It is the quote unquote guy should

1233
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: be the quote unquote guy that I feel like Riley

1234
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: Leonard is going to provoke this discussion.

1235
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: This is like when half of the office said Hilary

1236
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: Swank is good looking in half of the office, It's

1237
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: exactly what this is. It's the same situation and about it.

1238
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, how you feel about Riley Leonard says more about

1239
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: you than it does him. This offense is not going

1240
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: to be your standard issue anything. It's going to be

1241
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: a lot of calling Riley Leonard's number. It's going to

1242
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: be a lot of getting Jeremiah Love out to the

1243
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: edge as best they can. It's going to be hopefully

1244
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: more of what we saw today, which was getting Mitchell

1245
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: Evans the ball their big tight end. But it if

1246
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like it is anything you can really

1247
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: sink your teeth into and know what the identity of

1248
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: it is. Beyond Riley Leonard, you are in the same

1249
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: boat as the rest of us. I don't know what

1250
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: the offense says either. The defense is still pretty good

1251
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: despite the injuries. Their schedule the rest of the way.

1252
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: They've got Navy next week in East Rutherford, New Jersey,

1253
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: neutral site, They've got Army eventually, neutral site game. They

1254
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: close out the year against USC on the road. All

1255
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: of these games are very winnable. All these games very winnable.

1256
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is what we think they are. They should

1257
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: be winning out, finishing eleven to one and going into

1258
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: the playoff as probably a top eight seed. Lurking, Yeah,

1259
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: number twenty one SMU hammered Stanford. We talked. We talked

1260
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: a lot about SMU on the Tuesday show. We talked

1261
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: a lot about them earlier. I won't dive too deeply

1262
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: into that, but hammered Stanford is just sort of plugging

1263
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: along a classic ACC rivalry against Stanford at.

1264
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: Classic SMU Stanford in front of there are dozens of

1265
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,479
Speaker 2: US people in Sanford Stadium. Yeah.

1266
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: How about Dukelerking? How about Duba I don't know if

1267
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: they're working. Oh, yes, the six and one, they're going

1268
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: to a bowl. How about Cincinnati Lurking since he five

1269
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: and two we mentioned him earlier. They beat Arizona State,

1270
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: by the way, on the Arizona State side. They missed

1271
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: two field goals. Kenny Dillingham said after the game on Monday,

1272
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: they're having open tryouts for a new kicker the best

1273
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: we have to draft this one of these years for

1274
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: the fantasy things. Have we not already drafting open tryouts?

1275
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Open tryouts, Okay, open tryouts for anything.

1276
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: And Wisconsin. I got Wisconsin on the list, so was

1277
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: Consin's now five and two. They beat Northwestern final Northwestern

1278
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: Game on the Lake twenty three to three. They host

1279
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: Penn State next week. Penn State's coming off a bye,

1280
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: but Penn State might be looking ahead to Ohio State

1281
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: first week in November. This is a team that feels

1282
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: like it's getting better to me, okay, it feels like

1283
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: they've got some momentum. I don't think they're good enough

1284
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: to beat Penn State, but I do think they're good

1285
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 1: enough to keep that one interesting. And I think given

1286
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: the fact they lost Tyler van Dijk, feels to me

1287
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: like they have found a way to reclaim their season.

1288
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: And it didn't seem very obvious where things were headed

1289
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: in that moment, but Luke Fickle has done a pretty

1290
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: good job getting this team back to a point of respectability.

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01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: Can I give you three Larkers please? Virginia Tech Schedule's

1292
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: not bad, tie.

1293
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: It never was bad. That was why we liked them.

1294
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying schedule moving forward. They laid waste

1295
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: to Stanford. They comfortably beat Boston College, Georgia Tech at Syracuse.

1296
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: Clemson's difficult, but that's at home. Virginia Tech has them

1297
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: in Lane Stadium at Duke in Virginia. Duke's pretty good.

1298
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 2: Virginia's feisty. It's not terrible, just in terms of lurking

1299
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: and winning a bunch of games. Second lurker Colorado Buffalo's yeah.

1300
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: I don't think Cincinnati's bulletproof. I think they're good, I

1301
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 2: mean pretty good. Texas Tech defense is nothing that does

1302
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: a ton for me. Isaac Wilson, Utah down and out,

1303
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 2: Kansas down and out Oklahoma State. I'm just saying, there's

1304
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of that sweet Lady mo So right now.

1305
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: Dion goes what ten and two, nine and three and

1306
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: then leaves for Florida State.

1307
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: How it happens, I don't think that's happening. I think

1308
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: he leaves for Amazon Prime is what he leaves for

1309
01:07:55,640 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: who's your third the Vanderbilt Commodore's die Okay, I grant

1310
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: you this. The ball State game wasn't great. They get

1311
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 2: Texas in a huge letdown game next week.

1312
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if they knock off Texas? Can you

1313
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: imagine not our phone line meltdown.

1314
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: They've got an Auburn team. Losing is a skill. Auburn

1315
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 2: has that skill. Nobody loses like Auburn. Auburn is an

1316
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: elite loser. Nobody loses like elite loser. They're so bad,

1317
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 2: like Hugh Freeze could give Ted talks on losing, and

1318
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 2: I would. I would pay a premium to go. I

1319
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: would attend them in person. South Carolina, I don't know

1320
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: what South Carolina is week to week. Their their defense

1321
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,879
Speaker 2: is crazy good. They're gonna make Diego Pavia very scared.

1322
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: But Vanderbuoka win that game, and then yes, they finished

1323
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: with LSU Tennessee. But in terms of Vanderbilt as just

1324
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: a spoiler, I don't know, man, why not?

1325
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean, does zelous you have the defense to stop

1326
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: Diego Pavia?

1327
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: Does anybody tie? Does anybody try?

1328
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: That's the question. I'm not kidding about that.

1329
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: No, they're they're a pretty good team. So, yeah, those

1330
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 2: are my Those are my lurkers. Sidebar? Were you a

1331
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 2: good Are you a good lurker in a parking lot

1332
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 2: where parking is a parking lot like you are looking

1333
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 2: for a parking spot in your car. Oh, you need

1334
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: to lurk around that parking lot to look for brillie

1335
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 2: for people pulling out elite lurker. I'm an elite lurker

1336
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: myself too.

1337
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: By the way, Vanderbilt at present stands to have the

1338
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: sixth most difficult strength of schedule in college football.

1339
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 2: They're gumpy. They're very gumpy this back half. I can't

1340
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 2: wait to see what happens.

1341
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: Why don't we read some fan tweets? If you're cool

1342
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: with that?

1343
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm ready.

1344
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: Play with me. Who the hell am I? Uh, don't

1345
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: ask why we play the Arnold quote. We've changed this

1346
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: segment a couple of times. We just like the sound.

1347
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1348
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1349
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: We ask people out on our Twitter account. I am

1350
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: a fan of blank, and right about now I am

1351
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: feeling blank. We got inundated with responses. We get more

1352
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: each week. What were some of your favorites.

1353
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: Oregon fan freaking tat Oregon Comma fan frea fantastic from

1354
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Eric excuse me, Iowa State fan heartburn. Oklahoma Nebraska

1355
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: fan feeling ecstatic that I chose today as my window

1356
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 2: opportunity to go hiking before the start of the season.

1357
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 2: Indiana fan feeling things I've never felt before. You know

1358
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 2: what Austin good for you before you Yeah, Michigan fan

1359
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 2: and both an Auburn and Texas aggie mom. And I'm

1360
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 2: feeling the trifecta of losses is coming before the trifecta

1361
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: of wins this season. Iowa fan, I'm feeling, as of

1362
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: twenty five years, maybe just enough for Kirk Farence. Georgia

1363
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: fan feeling both confused and excited. Where was the defense

1364
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: all year long? It's a good question. Clemson fan cautiously optimistic,

1365
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 2: that's fair. Baylor rejuvenated, tie Case State fan and I'm

1366
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 2: feeling still pissed off about the BYU game. That's tough.

1367
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna hang on you. Penn State relaxed for once.

1368
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 2: Penn State, as we mentioned, some close calls against some

1369
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:15,839
Speaker 2: weird teams, your number three team in the country. Penn State. Okay,

1370
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: Texas right at home. Miami fan feeling relieved sooner is

1371
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: at least two thirds of the known negative emotions. South

1372
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: Carolina fan with the gift of Larry David feeling prett day,

1373
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 2: pretty pretty good. Kentucky fan like, I'm in a glass

1374
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: case of emotions, and my personal favorite Michigan State. I'm jacked.

1375
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 2: I'm jacked to the tits. Yeah, from Zach Michigan State.

1376
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: I've got Michigan State in this next segment here. Okay,

1377
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm calling it other Snakes because it was snake in

1378
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: the toilet Saturday, Joy Michigan State beat Iowa Dan. What

1379
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: the freak? Hell?

1380
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 2: Well, we were asking the question like why is this

1381
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 2: line what this line is? And I suppose Michigan State

1382
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: eventually was going to find ways to say it's Nick

1383
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: marsh Right, the young receiver who has largely been I

1384
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 2: mean very good this year. Aiden Childs has been good

1385
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: when he doesn't give the ball away, and the defense

1386
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: stepped up against Caleb Johnson. I think he just had

1387
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: one long run and that was it.

1388
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: Thirty two to twenty. Yes, was your final. We're going

1389
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: to give a shout out in a little bit to

1390
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: the kicker Jonathan Kim, who had a phenomenal day and

1391
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: scored twenty of Michigan State's points. He has six field

1392
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: goals and two extra points.

1393
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 2: But however, you can get it.

1394
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 1: Look, you're playing Iowa one in Rome, or when playing Rome.

1395
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: You know, this was a very Iowa esque performance in

1396
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: how they beat Iowa. But for their defense to step

1397
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: up in the manner that it did, it was a

1398
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: weird line. It felt very strange. But this is a

1399
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: really nice win for Jonathan Smith, a really really nice win.

1400
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: I kind of can't believe that they did this.

1401
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: It was a Schneid Saturday too, Right, it was UCLA

1402
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: against Rutgers. It was somebody. It was a couple teams

1403
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: finally waking up.

1404
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ucla thirty five, thirty two knocks off Rutgers flew

1405
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: cross country. Right was that game? That game was in Rutgers,

1406
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: I believe it was.

1407
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:19,480
Speaker 2: It was in Pascataway.

1408
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 3: Yep.

1409
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: They snap a five game losing streak. Ethan Garber's over

1410
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: three to eighty had four touchdowns completed all the eighty

1411
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: four percent of his passes. So good on them. I mean,

1412
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 1: it probably feels good to get some momentum back.

1413
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 2: You know why that happened though, right? Why UCLA was

1414
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 2: able to wake up on offense. Finally, Ryan Walters called

1415
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 2: their offensive place doing it for everybody. Got to make

1416
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: that change.

1417
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: The Rutgers defense is something that we need to talk

1418
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: to the kids about here. It's no the focal point

1419
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: of this team, the whole theory of Rutgers football and

1420
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: why I like them, why a lot of people like Rutgers.

1421
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: They were kind of the it team in a sense

1422
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: before the season, very strong identity. The identity was they're

1423
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: gonna beat your brains in with Kyle Managa. They go

1424
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: to run the hell out of the ball, and they're

1425
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: gonna play solid defense. And on top of it, the

1426
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: schedule is very advantageous. Sure, the defense looked really sloppy,

1427
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: not just in this game, but for a couple of

1428
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: weeks now. The tackling is so bad, so bad that

1429
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: if they don't get that sorted out, that's gonna be

1430
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: a real issue. That's gonna be a real yash.

1431
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,879
Speaker 2: I mean, they've lost a couple of huge key players

1432
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 2: on this defense. I get it's a couple now, but

1433
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 2: I get it, man. They I'm just saying that, was

1434
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: that the whole theory of the.

1435
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 1: Case for Rutgers this year. Yeah, was that Okay, they've

1436
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,919
Speaker 1: lost three in a row. Now they got to travel,

1437
01:14:54,280 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: I believe, on Friday night to USC They've also got Minnesota, Maryland, Illinois,

1438
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: Michigan State. They need to win two of those to

1439
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: go to a bowl. I think they could. I think

1440
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: they will. But I'm just saying if the defense does

1441
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: not get sorted out this, it's a whole other conversation

1442
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: for Rutgers. That's fair, and then the other I'm going

1443
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: to put them in the snake category because I said

1444
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: this on the previous show and I stand by it now,

1445
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,799
Speaker 1: especially since they won the Florida Gators.

1446
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1447
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Florida, Florida knocked by to Kentucky. They knocked off Kentucky.

1448
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: This team is obviously still pretty flawed. Let's be real.

1449
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they're dealing with a lot now. DJ Lagway

1450
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: is going to have his his moments, but it's clear

1451
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: he's got talent. They put up forty eight points on Kentucky.

1452
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 1: It might be more an indictment on Mark Stoops in

1453
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: Kentucky at this point that they put up forty eight points,

1454
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: But at the same time, their defense actually looked pretty

1455
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: good in this matchup. The rest of the way they've

1456
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: got some heavy hitters on the schedule. I don't suspect

1457
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: they're beating Georgia or Texas or else. We're all missed.

1458
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: They might beat Florida State, but.

1459
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 2: If they might beat Florida State.

1460
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: They should beat Florida State, thank you. But if they

1461
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: can find a way to steal one other one and

1462
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: go to a bowl game against all odds, Billy Napier

1463
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: absolutely keeps the job. Florida getting to a bowl game.

1464
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: It is a possibility now with four wins. Sure, them

1465
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: going to a bowl game despite all of the narratives

1466
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: that have been circling around this program would be something else.

1467
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: He would have to keep his job. It would be progress.

1468
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Florida fans feel great about that.

1469
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, the fact that we're here where they've at

1470
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: least got a shot at this is meaningful. I think.

1471
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,560
Speaker 2: Can we talk about whatever it is that Texas A

1472
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: and M drinks at halftime to get way better at football?

1473
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: It's the gummy berry juice or it's whatever PJ. Fleck

1474
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: was given the aid out of confidence.

1475
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: Texas A and M gets so much better over the

1476
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 2: course of games. They might game plan terribly, but they'll

1477
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,799
Speaker 2: figure you out. They will absolutely figure you out. Connor

1478
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 2: Wegman throws such a beautifully interceptible ball. Nobody puts as

1479
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 2: much craft and care into throwing a ball that could

1480
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: realistically be caught by the other team. And you know what,

1481
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 2: he gets away with it. He does get away with

1482
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: it with He's better than Marcel Reid. I love the

1483
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: guys on this Texas A and M defense. I like

1484
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 2: their receivers a good amount more than I thought I

1485
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: would going into the season. You know, they're thinner at

1486
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: running back than we thought they'd be. But I don't know.

1487
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: This is a really well coached team. I like Colin Kleine,

1488
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 2: I like Mike Elko. I have no idea what to

1489
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: what degree I believe in their lurkiness. But Mississippi State

1490
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 2: came out with a nice game plan. Michael van Buren

1491
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: was hitting. They were well early on.

1492
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: Van Buren boys are going to be a talking point,

1493
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: not this year, but no, I like him. I think

1494
01:17:59,120 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: he's good.

1495
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 2: A and m is just staring at that giant chalkboard

1496
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 2: with that giant, comically large piece of chalk and saying,

1497
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 2: all right, it's the X factor to the third or

1498
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 2: you know they're solving it. It takes a second, but they're

1499
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 2: getting there. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Can I give you like five good minutes on the

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01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: G five, please do so. I think the storyline that

1502
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: most of our listeners out there care about on the

1503
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: G five level is the Army Navy thing. The Army

1504
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: Navy thing continues to churn. This week. They combined to

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01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: outscore their opponents by a sixty two to ten score

1506
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: in the first half. Dan, I love that in the

1507
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 1: first half, Army one with offense, Navy one with pretty

1508
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: much everything. Charlotte turned the ball over five times. They

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01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: didn't look very organized, kind of desperate even before the

1510
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: first quarter was over. Of note, wouldn't you yeah, of course?

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01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: Of note, Navy plays Notre Dame next week in me

1513
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: Life Stadium. Full coverage of that one coming a little

1514
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 1: bit later this week. I guess we got to talk

1515
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: about it as a big game because it is not

1516
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 1: a loaded slate in week nine, and it is a

1517
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: battle of one undefeated team and Notre Dame fighting ours.

1518
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,799
Speaker 1: You're going to be a playoffs will be? Yes, Navy's

1519
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 1: gonna be I would assume they're going to be ranked yeah,

1520
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: so that is something that I think people care about

1521
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: first and foremost. Beyond that, though, let me go through

1522
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: the conferences. Sun Belt Coastal Carolina no longer no longer

1523
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: with a shot of winning the Sun Belt by virtue

1524
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: of getting beaten by Louisiana.

1525
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 2: Who's having a really nice year with they six and one.

1526
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: Now having a really nice year. Yeah, yeah, really nice here.

1527
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 1: Georgia Southern seems to be in the driver's seat in

1528
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: Sun Belt East. They smothered James Madison won that game

1529
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: twenty eight to fourteen. Notable. Notable. Yeah, four turnovers for

1530
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 1: James Madison in this game. In the American outside of

1531
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: the Army Navy factor, it was a defense optional game.

1532
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: As men fifth squared off against North Texas.

1533
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 2: Oh man, I saw this Chandler Morris through the ball

1534
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: like sixty times for four hundred and fifty yards in

1535
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: a losing effort.

1536
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: North Texas scored two touchdowns on their first two offensive

1537
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: plays and then it was back and forth pretty much

1538
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. Memphis won fifty two to

1539
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: forty four.

1540
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: And that was on the ground too, right, Memphis was

1541
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 2: able to I think it got them on the ground

1542
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 2: really well. It was.

1543
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: It was a wild game. They combined for ninety six points.

1544
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 1: North Texas unfortunately now kind of on the outside looking in,

1545
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: but I think has for all intentsive purposes, had a

1546
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: pretty good season.

1547
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,759
Speaker 2: Yes, Mario Anderson, by the way, for Memphis on the ground,

1548
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 2: a total dude.

1549
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: Mountain West, San Jose State very quiet. Five and two,

1550
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: lurk and I don't think they're a worker. I don't

1551
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: want to put them in that work categal say, Lurker

1552
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: builds expectations. Okay, I don't want any expectations here, but

1553
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: this is Kennia Montalolo not running the option. They bounced

1554
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: back this week, kind of played in a clunker but

1555
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 1: knocked off Wyoming despite committing eight penalties and turning it

1556
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,480
Speaker 1: over four times. They lost, lost the time of possession

1557
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: almost two to one. But they're five and two. Five

1558
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: and two Conference USA is getting spicy. We got Western

1559
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 1: Kentucky knocking off Sam Houston. For all intentsive purposes, it

1560
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: is a three team race of note. On the liberty side,

1561
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: their last five games are against the top quarter of

1562
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 1: the conference, so they got to play Jacksonville State and

1563
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky and Sam Houston in that order. So if

1564
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 1: you're into G five football, pay attention to the Conference USA,

1565
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: and finally, the MAC.

1566
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 6: Man.

1567
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: This is what I said at the start of the year.

1568
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: Just don't don't look at the MAC in the context

1569
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,839
Speaker 1: of the rest of college football. Consider it its own conference,

1570
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: its own league, in its own bubble. I have no

1571
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: idea how this tiebreaker is gonna work. Okay, I don't

1572
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: know who's gonna play for it. I don't know who's

1573
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,759
Speaker 1: gonna it's it's in a blender. As I like to say,

1574
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: more than half of the conference is two and one

1575
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 1: or better. I great, it's gonna be fun. Okay, they

1576
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: play game during the week, watched the games during action's

1577
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: heating up. Action is heating up. This is your good.

1578
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: You're good five minutes of G five football. Thank you

1579
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: to our friend Shay for helping us put that together. Yes,

1580
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 1: should we do some doodle.

1581
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: Arts, Dan, let's do some doodle arts.

1582
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: Who do we got this week?

1583
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: Nine fingernails, No problem, Curtis Rourke, John Cameron at Baylor

1584
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 2: receiver got in the end zone special teams plays. We

1585
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 2: got a submission for every Kansas State tight end. I

1586
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 2: love the specificity. Jalen Walker was everywhere for Georgia. He

1587
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 2: was a menace. He was spying arch Manning. He was

1588
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 2: so good in this game. Ethan Garber's who you just mentioned,

1589
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 2: was an all purpose just wonder for UCLA. The battle

1590
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 2: between Billy Edwards and Miller Moss super entertaining. Jabobe Lane

1591
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: making a ridiculous catch like this was a very entertaining game.

1592
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 2: These quarterbacks were both very good. I just mentioned Mario

1593
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 2: Anderson from Memphis. J. Corey Brown and RJ. Harvey for

1594
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 2: UCF got a lot of exercise in a losing effort.

1595
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:06,440
Speaker 2: Harold fannin hum ten catches, bucks seventy tie your boy

1596
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: H and Elijah Badger for Florida had a great night

1597
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 2: for the Gators with d J. Lagway.

1598
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: Let me let me throw three more names in there,

1599
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: but Schwiel Tooton for Virginia at Tech they played earlier

1600
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,520
Speaker 1: the week. Eighteen carries, two sixty six and three touchdowns.

1601
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan Kim, the aforementioned Michigan State kicker who went six

1602
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: of seven with field goals of forty two, forty three,

1603
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: thirty six, twenty nine, fifty five and forty six, also

1604
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: two extra points, and Gabe Jakis jackis I don't know

1605
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: how you say his name for Illinois thirteen tackles, two

1606
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: and a half sacks and had a force fumble.

1607
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1608
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: Man, that was the good dudes, very good dudes. Thank

1609
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 1: you for your submissions. We have one final thing before

1610
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: we let the fine people go. We were inundated with

1611
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: phone calls this week. It wasn't even a crazy week

1612
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 1: of upsets. It wasn't. But we got more phone calls

1613
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: this week and I can remember in a long time.

1614
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: So it's great that we're in the latter now part

1615
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: of October and we're still getting calls like this. Sometimes

1616
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: calls peter off as you get into October. Teams start

1617
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: losing maybe interest. Wayne's a little bit no no, no, no, no,

1618
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: no no, not the for bowler hood.

1619
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,480
Speaker 2: How what percentage of these calls was about mel Classico?

1620
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: Not enough? Here are your week eight reverbs. Have a listen.

1621
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: This is Ay and Philadelphia doning my Tukah shells like

1622
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: it's two thousand and four to say to Oklahoma fans,

1623
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: welcome to the sec B.

1624
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 3: Tie and Dan thanking Davis.

1625
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: Back in town.

1626
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 4: This is Daniel from Raleigh, Hey, Josh from an arbor.

1627
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 6: It's Sarah in Tulsa, Oklahoma. After today's embarrassment. I just

1628
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 6: look if anyone's got a tarmac they're not using. I've

1629
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 6: got like a whole coaching staff.

1630
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 2: I want to drop off.

1631
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 4: Oh the the game, go get Lita game guys.

1632
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: Indiana is on their way to being seven and zero.

1633
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: It has sold out homecoming game, big noon kickoff?

1634
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 2: Is there?

1635
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: Cigarettes are cool again?

1636
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 6: Oh hooters.

1637
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 4: Just watch my dumb CMU football team blow a dumb

1638
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 4: eighteen point lead on Eastern dumb Gray Field.

1639
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 3: Y'all keeps sleeping on the hookies.

1640
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: It's okay, okay, we'll hear about Amark.

1641
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 4: Mike Gundy might have headbutted a cow, but Colina to

1642
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 4: take just John Claude Van Damn punched the snake and

1643
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:30,520
Speaker 4: a toilet.

1644
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 1: In the face.

1645
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 4: I'm drunk on chocolate milk and donut seven and oh jokibs.

1646
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 6: The football gods have passed the spirit stick to Miami

1647
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 6: this year.

1648
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 4: They said there was indisputable visual evidence to overturn that.

1649
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 4: Phe We'll call it's not indisputable.

1650
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: I dispute it.

1651
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 4: I dispute it. Wrong's just a good question for Ti,

1652
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 4: a Giants fan from a Michigan fan. When does the

1653
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,799
Speaker 4: Wink Martin Dale experience.

1654
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 2: Workout or never?

1655
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 4: Fun?

1656
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: Never?

1657
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 5: I'm a cow fan and I am peely leaves me

1658
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 5: as part as you can on a day when Toley'll

1659
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 5: say it was the honorary captain, it only makes sense

1660
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 5: that we would watch a repeat of a potential Heisman

1661
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 5: quarterback meltdown after a coaching change. Have fun in hell, Jed.

1662
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: Fish, I don't give a damn about the whole state

1663
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: of Alabama because I'm from Tennessee.

1664
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 2: Rocket DA.

1665
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 3: Coach to Boorr needs to take a lesson from coach

1666
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 3: Saban and bench is starting.

1667
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: Quarterback is not an overreaction.

1668
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 4: Did Borr has got to go. This is not worth it.

1669
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: We can get someone else.

1670
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 3: Let's get someone else now.

1671
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: If winning is a skill, he freezes whatever. The exact

1672
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: opposite of that is also Scott Frostilbert Freeze has now

1673
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: lost six games by one score in his first one

1674
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: and a half season. Give your tracker started.

1675
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 3: I just want to point out that nobody cares when

1676
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 3: Colorado wins.

1677
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 4: They only care when Colorado loses. I guess what another

1678
01:26:58,560 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 4: week you guys don't have to worry about it.

1679
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: School both.

1680
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 3: This is Gary from College Park Maryland, and I would

1681
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 3: never ever criticize anyone for storming a field.

1682
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 4: Ever again mm hm trup.

1683
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 3: Someone whose ran me over with a video shooter.

1684
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: As an Auburn fan, I thought we'd win a couple

1685
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: of conference games this year. Now I think it's time

1686
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: to pack it up, pack it in there we go.

1687
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you to one, Thank you to all

1688
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 1: for calling our reverblind at eight five to five verbal fees.

1689
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: Thank you to our chief reverbs engineer, Shay, who graciously

1690
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: found the time in his busy schedule to put those

1691
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:47,919
Speaker 1: together this evening. It was his tenth wedding anniversary. Wow,

1692
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: he did that work for us, He did that work

1693
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 1: for you, forballerhood.

1694
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 2: And now he might be doing more work tonight on

1695
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: his anniversary.

1696
01:27:55,479 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 1: Ty congratulation, congratulations Shay, Thank you for all the fine

1697
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: work you put in here. We appreciate that very much.

1698
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: Of course, did an awesome job. He assures us that

1699
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: because there were so many phone calls, there's going to

1700
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: be a part two. We'll play that on the Tuesday

1701
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 1: spillover episode if that's cool with Hey. Wait, all right,

1702
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 1: so that does it for this week eight. We did

1703
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 1: our best to put a bow on it. Please do

1704
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: Wright insoliverble at gmail dot com or give us comments

1705
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: wherever you can, whatever it takes. Find us on social media.

1706
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: Let us know what we got right, what we got wrong,

1707
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: what we should talk more about on the upcoming Tuesday episode.

1708
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 1: Of course, if you want to further support what Dan

1709
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: and I do, you can go on out to for

1710
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: ballers dot com. That is our Patreon. You can get

1711
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: bonus episodes, ad free episodes, play in the game. We

1712
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: have to give away a gaming console as soon as

1713
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: we find out who won this Weekdan. We give out

1714
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: fabulous prizes each and every week, so we would encourage

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Speaker 1: everybody to check that out. If you like the show,

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01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: want to support Dan and I. If nothing more, hit

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Speaker 1: follow or subscribe wherever it is that you are getting

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01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: your podcasts these days, and if you were ever so inclined,

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Speaker 1: leave us a rating or a review. Agree We gate

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Speaker 1: now officially in the books. We appreciate everybody stopping on

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01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 1: by supporting Dan and I. It is late. We are

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Speaker 1: both bleary eyed. It has been twelve plus hours of football,

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Speaker 1: but it was a good one.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it again next week, shall We can't wait

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Speaker 1: for that guy over there my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: for myself, Tie Hilt, and Brand. Thank you as always

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Speaker 1: for supporting our little pirate ship of a college football show.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to y'all soon. Stay solid, peace,