WEBVTT - The Gut-Vagina Connection with Lo Bosworth 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:06.680 Hi, Catherine, Hi, Chelsea, Hi, Hi everybody. I just we're 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.520 in LA with the fires, and. 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.280 You flew back just in time for this. In fact, 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:14.360 I flew back just in time for the fires. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:16.479 I was with my nieces all week in Whistler, and 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:18.680 I flew back to host the Critics' Choice Awards, which 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.479 are being postponed now due to the fires. And we 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:23.880 landed and she was like, did you see the fire 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:25.919 we flew through? And I was like, one of my 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.440 nieces and I'm like what, And then I had I 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.240 didn't have Wi Fi in the flights. I wasn't I 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.199 was reading and I saw and then I saw my 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.159 phone and I was like, oh my god. And so 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:40.000 I'm at a hotel like everyone else in Los Angeles and 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:46.279 Critics Choice Towards. I'm here post phoned obviously. January twenty sixth. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:50.239 Okay, I am probably going to turn around and go 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.600 back to Whistler since this is a disaster, okay, and 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.480 there's really nothing for me to do here, are you guys? 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:58.840 We had to evacuate my street, but I don't know 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.000 what's going on on my street. The pictures in the 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.080 Palisades are so devastating. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.000 You'll see one house that's burned, and then the one 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:08.959 next to it is fine, and then the one next 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:09.720 to that is burnt. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.000 I mean, it's just like it's. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:17.120 So random and devastating and all consuming and just really awful. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.080 Wow, I mean yikes. 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:24.639 Yeah, So it's fires are just the worst thing to watch, 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.520 you know, like see and how they catch and how 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:32.600 they spread. Like the whole Palisades is just fucking destroyed. 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.840 I just got a text from my boss that his 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.840 house has gone like literally just right now. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:40.640 Good God. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.919 But he and his wife and baby got out yesterday. 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:48.360 So yeah, it's like you look for these silver linings. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.880 It doesn't make it any less devastating, but there you 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:51.200 have it. 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.320 What's the silver lining? Oh that he's just. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:54.280 They got out. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:55.120 Yeah, where's the one? 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.400 I'd like to where can we just like find that? 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:57.800 Please? 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.240 Well, we have our guest today. We re recorded this 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.600 a while ago, so this episode is a lot about 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.760 vaginal wellness for all guess those of you who are 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.720 listening and who are not impacted by the fires and 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.920 who want to learn more about your Pikachu, here's an 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.600 episode for you. Please welcome Low Bosworth. 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.919 Hello, gorgeous gaggle of girls on a couch. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:26.760 Hello, Hello, Hello Bosworth. Hello, Hi, how are you? I'm 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.799 ready to talk about vaginal wellness. I'm ready to talk 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:34.560 about female wellness, vaginal wellness, anal wellness. I mean, if 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.440 we have anything to cover on that, we want to 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.240 just be well. We want to be well. And we 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.240 have you here today to talk about all of the 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.720 amazing things that you've accomplished with your company. 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.640 Yes, thank you for having me. I don't know if 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.480 you remember, but I was on your show on E 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.040 a really long time ago once when I was on 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.880 the hills, and I was so scared to come on 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.040 your show because I was so intimidated. 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.960 How was it, How was the experience? Was I nice? Scary? 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:02.799 It was scariest? 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.919 Book was it? Was I nice to you? 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:06.800 You were very nice. 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.520 Yes, I don't know why people are so intimidated by me. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.040 I mean, I do know, but I didn't know for 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.560 so long what the problem was. I was like, God, 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.720 everyone would say that to me, like You're so scary, 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.359 You're so scary, and I'm like, I actually still don't 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.800 really quite get it. But that's for another time. 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.359 I guess you're a strong, funny woman. And I think 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:28.239 people don't want to be don't want them, don't want 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.560 you to like point out their obvious areas of opportunity. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.480 Yes, nice, Yes, thank you. You know what, that was 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.680 probably the most eloquent way you could put it, So 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:38.440 thank you for saying it so I didn't have to 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:43.960 say it ineloquently. But good to know. And I accept this. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.560 I accept this badge of whatever it is because I understand. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.000 But I'm glad that I'm getting to see you again anyway. 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.080 And I was gonna say, had I interviewed you on 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.120 Chelsea lately? Because I had so many interviews in the 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.200 span of my career, with all of the talk shows 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.640 that I've done, that sometimes I meet people and I 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.920 can't tell, Like I had Christini. I had Christina Ricci 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.200 on the other week we had her on the podcast, 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.520 and I was looking at her sitting here, looking at 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.400 her face, going, I never forget a face, and I'm like, 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.280 I couldn't remember whether or not I had interviewed her, 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:14.840 and I was looking at her face and I'm like, 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.400 her face is a very unusual, you know, she has 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.520 a very unique face. And while I was looking at 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.719 I'm like, I know I haven't seen this face face 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.560 to face before, you know, And so I was like, oh, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.240 and then she said no, I was never on your show. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.960 I'm like, okay, that much I know. So anyway, low Bosworth, 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.280 you obviously people would have become familiar with you a 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.479 long time ago from a show you were on called 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:41.039 The Hills, which was like probably the first reality show really. 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:42.520 Or Laguna Beach before that. 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.640 Oh yeah, it was early Laguna Beach. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.160 I don't know if you remember that, but that was 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.240 twenty years ago. We started were it debuted in two 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.760 thousand and four, which is when I graduated high school 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:56.120 and then started college. So yeah, a full twenty years 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.440 ago Laguna came on the air, and then The Hills 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.839 followed that. So so it's been a while. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.000 Listen, you made a career out of being on a 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.040 reality show that was that wasn't a thing before. I mean, 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.800 it's a thing now, but you were able to parlay 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.000 that into something meaningful and great. So fucking good for you, 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.160 and congratulations. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:16.240 Thank you. 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:16.599 Yeah. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.120 I've been working on love Wellness for going on nine 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.440 years now, which is just blows my mind. I don't 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.119 think I've been able to commit that long to anything 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:24.760 in my life. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:26.360 Yeah, that is a long time. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.080 I'm really passionate about women's wellness. And I started the 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.080 company out of, you know, really my own need for 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:37.520 better products in the healthcare space. And I really, to 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:41.920 be honest with you, was determined not to be a 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.880 reality television personality forever as my byline, and now I 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.039 realize it probably just will be anyway, so whatever, I've 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.440 kind of moved past that. But I think coming off 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.360 that show, I had so much trauma. And I'm sure 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:56.680 you talk to a lot of people who are on 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:01.400 reality that have such traumatic experience is on it, And 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.200 for a long time, in the early days of reality, 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.360 those stories were not really validated. They were pushed to 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.200 the side. It was like, well, you're famous, so like 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.840 shut up about your feelings. But now I think there's 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:19.239 a better understanding just how like manipulative and terrible those 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.719 shows can be, you know, in people's psyche. And I 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.480 started my business really as sort of a second chance 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.480 in life to be honest with you, Like I had 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.520 to get away from LA I moved to New York, 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.560 and I really I really started my life over again. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:34.200 Wow. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.680 Yeah, And I had read too that you used sort 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.440 of like the last bit of your earnings from the 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.920 show to develop this product line and start the business. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:42.839 Right, that's so cool. 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.000 I just want to say that our business is now 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.560 worth I mean, you guys made it. I think I 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.640 said one hundred million dollars this year right where it's 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.760 valuated at one hundred million dollars. 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:57.320 It's valuated or even that, but I we can't talk. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.000 We can't talk about our revenue yet for twenty two 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.159 twenty four. But we're doing very well. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.919 Okay, Well, I just wanted to say it's very successful. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.640 So that's thing point we're trying to get across. Yeah, 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.560 so tell us, Okay, give us your backstory, like what happened, 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.160 what kind of like what was your issue that led 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.120 you to discover and launch this kind of brand. 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:23.440 So I was in a really terribly sad, emotionally abusive 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:28.440 romantic relationship, and in that relationship, I was very depressed 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.880 and very anxious, and I also had a whole host 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.760 of women's health issues, urinary tract infections, yeast infections, and 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.960 it was like chronic. I was just always sick. And 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.240 there was really a tipping point for me though, where 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.360 I was normal one day and then the next day, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.400 I was just not I was like lay on the 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.160 floor depressed, like go home to my mommy for three 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.600 months depressed kind of a thing. And I was going 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.080 to the doctor over and over and over again and 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.400 trying to advocate for myself and just being told that, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.160 you know, here's some prozac, you need to exercise more, 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.320 drink more water, whatever, the typical medical gas lighting that 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.640 I think a lot of women experience and have historically 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.720 experienced in this country for a very long time. It 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:15.160 wasn't until I was eighteen months into this health journey 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.800 of trying to understand why I was okay one day 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:21.360 and then so not okay kind of the overnight that 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:26.280 my GP finally agreed to just to a blood panel 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.880 and test my vitamin levels, like the most basic blood 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.679 test you can do, and it came back as like deficient, deficient, deficient, deficient. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.240 It was overwhelming, but it was my very first data 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.920 point that there was something physiologically wrong with me, and 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.280 I wasn't making it up because I was being made 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.040 to feel that I was just making all of this 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.560 stuff up. And so with that first data point that 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.760 I was dealing with these vitamin deficiencies, I actually had 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.520 some information to go on, right, and then I kind 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.880 of took that information to better doctors that were approaching 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:59.080 healthcare from a more holistic point of view, which is 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:03.280 I think because coming more popular in our health care 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.439 system here, but you still have a lot of doctors 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.320 very focused on their primary area that they focus on. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.880 And so I was looking for a gynecologist to say 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.360 that could help me connect the dots better between vaginal 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.560 health issues and gut health issues or the brain stuff 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.320 that I was experiencing, and finally got a healthcare team 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.160 in place that said, you know, I think that actually 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.440 all of these things are connected. I think that you 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.840 have a gut health issue because you are the antibiotic generation. 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.719 I was born in nineteen eighty six. For every little thing, 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.600 we took an antibiotics, antibiotics all the time. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:37.320 Yeah. 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.240 We were raised on goldfish crackers from Costco, Like I 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.520 love a goldfish cracker, and we have messed up gut 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:50.679 microbiomes and as a result, we have vitamin deficiencies, we 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.840 have anxiety and depression because of leaky gut and the 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.560 connection between the gut and the brain and that blood 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.280 brain barrier. And then from the gut to the vagina. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.160 We have gout dys biosis that results in vaginal health issues. 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:09.320 Because the gut microbiome and the vaginal microbiome talk to 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:14.239 each other, it's called quorum sensing. The gut bacteria literally 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.199 tell your vagina bacteria, hey, like, we're in good health here, 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.800 you should be in good health down there, or the inverse, 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.800 which is crazy. And so I finally started to understand 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.040 what was going on in my body. But this was 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.880 like twenty fifteen. There was still a lot of emerging 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.800 research on just the gut microbiome coming out, very little 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.920 on the vaginal microbiome. That took kind of like the 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.199 course of my business up until this point to get 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.800 better understanding and research on women's microbiomes, but started to 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.360 develop products based off of the holistic recommendations of some 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:50.120 excellent doctors that were as simple as take a probiotic, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.280 use an intimate cleanser without fragrance. And it was these 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:57.640 simple solutions that actually really made such a pivotal change 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.120 in my health and allowed me to get better. And 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.880 I decided I'm going to launch a business with a 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.200 focus on these white space innovation types of products for 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.920 women that really can fundamentally change the game for how 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.240 we take care of our bodies at an accessible price 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:17.000 point in everyday types of stores. Right, And it was 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.480 twenty sixteen when I launched the company. It was right 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:24.319 after the presidential election in twenty sixteen. And yeah, here. 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:30.640 We are eight years later, many years later, in an 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.920 interestingly similar place. I am curious about when you talk 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.920 about leaky gut. So obviously you change the items that 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.760 you were taking, the probiotics and that sort of thing. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.839 Did you do any sort of protocols to address leaky 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:43.160 gut or anything like that? 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.600 Yeah, So, you know, when I was kind of initially 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.440 going through this discovery, my doctors thought, well, maybe you 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:55.320 have some food intolerances things like that, and I certainly do. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.320 But I'm also a human and still sometimes eat through 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.160 those things anyway. And the only way to really find 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.440 out if you have a food allergy or an intolerance 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.240 is to do a diet where you eliminate that thing 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.480 from your diet for a significant period of time. And 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.280 I did that with gluten. And I was pretty surprised 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:21.160 when I reintroduced gluten how how negatively affected I was, 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.000 because the reality is, if you're eating something that you 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.400 have an intolerance to every single day over time, your 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.240 reaction to it is not going to be very big. 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.760 It's going to be kind of consistent. You kind of 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.880 get to that like baseline kind of reaction. It's brain fog, 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.680 it's bloating, whatever. But when I eliminated gluten from my 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:46.360 diet and then reintroduced it, I like got vertigo, I 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.200 got like horribly sick. I was like, oh my gosh, 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.400 I really have a gluten problem. But yeah, elimination diets 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.880 are really kind of the gold standard for understanding if 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:56.880 you have some kind of foodish How. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:58.600 Long do you think it takes, like when you eliminate 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.640 something like gluten, for you to actually feel the results 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.240 of that, the impact. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.160 That it has on your body, the positive benefits. Yeah, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.840 I think within a week you probably start to feel 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.439 the positive benefits of it. If you have a food 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.319 intolerance to that thing. Do I think you get max 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:21.840 benefits in a month? Maybe probably longer than that. I 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.760 think if you've been eating something you have an intolerance 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.760 to your entire life, it's going to take a while 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.599 for your body to heal from all of that inflammation. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.480 Because I just feel like, is it everyone intolerant of 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.600 I mean not intolerant, but kind of allergic gluten. Well, 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:37.480 because we put of all the shit we put it 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.160 in and put in this. When I eat bread in 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:39.800 other countries, I. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.440 Don't have the specifically in the US. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.319 I think you're right, whose body that's along with that? 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.880 Well, the thing is, what we use in the US 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.240 has about like seven or eight times the gluten of 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:53.040 the wheat that we evolved eating over ten thousand years, 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.120 So our body is, oh, really it does. It was 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:59.280 It's usually a GMO, and it was made to help 0:13:59.320 --> 0:13:59.959 feed the world. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.360 Like the scientists who created it was like, this is amazing. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.319 It's gonna help feed all these poor serving kids in 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.880 these countries, and we're eating it here in the US. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:09.680 And that's why you go to like Italy or whatever. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.720 Like I don't have any reaction to gluten in Italy 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.080 or France or any. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:13.600 Of those places. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.440 But here it's like I can eat Italian flower that 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.880 I'm making here, you know, pasta or bread or whatever. 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:19.680 I'm fine. 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.280 The second I eat something that's like US bread flour, 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:24.440 it's it's over for me. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:25.320 In about twenty minutes. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.120 Speak agriculture for you, Yeah. 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:32.760 We're agrarians over here, Low, we're agrarians. I'm a government official, Yeah, 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.840 for the agriculture Agricultural Department. Can you imagine so one 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.280 said you have to get up and speak about that 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:39.880 for an hour, I'd be like, you better give me 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:44.520 a long hit stat so okay, and so then launching that, 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.880 because I've tried. I've been in you know where you've 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.240 tried to launch a business, and I just it is 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.440 so fucking arduous to get something off the ground that 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.760 anyone who's been able to do it successfully. I'm just 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:56.720 in like awe. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.200 Of you know, I'm pretty relentless. 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:01.960 Yeah, you sound like you really have your shit together. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.760 I really love the subject matter like I love biology, 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.040 I love the human body. I am just fascinated by it. 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.520 And I think if you get into any business and 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.160 you really want to be in it for the long haul, 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:19.240 you have to really love what you're doing. And I 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.200 actually gave up the CEO role in my business last 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:27.600 March or March of twenty twenty three so that I 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:32.360 could focus on innovation, regulatory marketing, the stuff that I'm 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.480 really really passionate about, because, to be honest with you, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.560 like the CEO job is a tough job. I was 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.040 a CEO for the first seven years of my business 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.280 and was able to successfully grow and guide that business 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.080 as a first time founder and CEO to a you know, 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.800 pretty significant size. I'm so proud of my accomplishment. But 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.320 to really scale the business to be like a major 0:15:55.440 --> 0:16:00.160 player in Walmart and in Target, which are our retail partner, 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.800 you have to have done that before and with success. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.320 It's really hard to walk into the room at Walmart, 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.720 never having ever been there before and say like, trust 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.600 me and I can deliver products on time, and like 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.920 I know about all the margins and you know all 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.400 the coupons and stuff you guys want to do No. No, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.600 Like being an owner or an operator of consumer brand 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.160 means that you really have to have done it before, 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.400 or you have to be willing to bring on a 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.000 team that has done it before that can help you. 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.160 And so that's where I'm really at now in terms 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.880 of kind of my journey with the business. I don't 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.920 have to do one on ones anymore, thank god, but 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.000 I'm still really focused on all the product innovation and 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.800 really a lot of regulatory work. We sit in a 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:51.640 very interesting category in supplements and cosmetics that's not actually 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:56.080 regulated by the FDA in terms of like ingredients or safety, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.000 really just in terms of claims. And there's like a 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.760 big consumer misconception that the FDA is all over these 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.800 products in terms of like safety and stuff, but they're not, 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.520 and it's really on brands to do the self regulation. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.560 So that's one of my kind of missions is to 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:17.959 make really clean, you know, efficacious products for women in 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.880 a category of a lot of frankly just like bullshit, 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.119 because a lot of brands will just sell you a 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.280 gummy vitamin and say it works it's going to like 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.359 solve all your problems when they won't. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.480 And how are you, as a consumer supposed to know 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.639 which brands are full of shit and which brands aren't. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.120 It's so hard, It's it's truly so hard. 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.520 It's like I'm not reading any of these fucking labels, 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.480 you know what I mean, And I wouldn't even know 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:41.600 what to be looking for. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:45.159 I just do so much challenge. Yeah, you know, a 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.600 lot of brands now tout like, oh, like clinically studied ingredients, 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:52.720 but like they don't actually have necessarily like the clinically 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:54.120 proven amount of that ingredient. 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.199 Air product or the formulation that works best, you know, 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.880 even like co Q ten is something I started taking recently, 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.040 and there's like five different kinds and like one is 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.439 very accessible by your body, and like the rest are not. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.640 You know, you have to take way more. And it's 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.640 sort of like on a basis. 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.679 I think, you know, I want to believe that most 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.040 brands are trying to do right by the consumer. What 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:16.680 I will say is that. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.240 Well, don't assume that because they're not. I mean, I 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.080 know that's not true. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:23.840 I know, but in this category, like, I want to 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.199 believe that right. I want to believe that if a 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:31.840 woman starts a business for women's health in her heart, 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:36.800 she has good intentions in mind for her customer base. Yes, 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.280 I don't think that that is always the case, and 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.000 I can think of a few examples where that's specifically 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:46.119 not the case. But I have to to just to 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.600 be able to like get up and operate every single 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.000 day and live in the earth that we're living in 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:55.600 and have some hope about the innate goodness in people, you. 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:56.080 Know what I mean. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.680 Yeah, it's called love Wellness dot Com for people who 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.840 want to go and order stuff from her company because 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.440 I like the idea of having your own health issues 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.280 and then finding a solution, which is the impetus for 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.480 starting a company. I think that's a very natural, kind 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.080 of like linear thing to do. And I think you're 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.119 right about female founders. I mean, I think for the 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.200 most part, you know women's it's like it's we we're 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.360 not handed anything. You have to actually, no, actively go 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:24.960 and work probably twice as hard as a man to 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:26.439 start a company to get to. 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.840 Cardi B said ten times is hard the other day, 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:30.040 and I thought, yes, Cardi B. 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:32.760 She's always been better at math than I have. So 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:36.119 we'll take her. I'll take whatever she says. Yeah. So 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.680 what's happening with your personal life? You're not married, right? 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:45.400 I have a fabulous partner, he's great, we live together rightly. Love. 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:47.840 I love that you don't have kids. 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:49.480