WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Twilight Zone

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth podcast The Hell If I'm Stepping into

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<v Speaker 1>the Twilight Zone addition, as we look back at a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven to nineteen loss in Cleveland where the red

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<v Speaker 1>zone became the twilight zone for the Bengals offense. Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear radio replays, one on one, locker room interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dave Lapham will join me for postgame analysis. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>in this week's fun Facts Conversation, it's rookie offensive lineman

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan who reveals that he almost went to Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame instead of Ohio State because of the Macaronian cheese

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<v Speaker 1>that he was served on his recruiting trip. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the discussion of that topic is as entertaining as it sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that is straight ahead. But first, here's a

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<v Speaker 1>quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of

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<v Speaker 1>that calculate driving time. On Sunday afternoon, we learned that

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<v Speaker 1>the UC football team is headed to the Birmingham Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>on January second. I have a basketball game to do

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<v Speaker 1>the night before, so I plugged Cincinnati and Birmingham into

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<v Speaker 1>the Ways app and instantaneously learned that it's a six

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<v Speaker 1>and a half hour drive from my house. Not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Two days later, I have a basketball game to do

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<v Speaker 1>at two Lane, so I plugged Birmingham and New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>into Google Maps and that's a five hour drive. Again

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<v Speaker 1>not bad. If like me, you're old enough to remember

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<v Speaker 1>when you had to get out an actual map and

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<v Speaker 1>try to guestimate driving time, you can appreciate just how

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<v Speaker 1>convenient it is to have technology available that calculates that

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<v Speaker 1>with a touch of a button. Now, let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>the opening drive of Sunday's game in Cleveland. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>have not scored an opening drive touchdown in twenty games.

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<v Speaker 1>They did run the opening kickoff back for a score

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<v Speaker 1>at Baltimore this year, but the last time the offense

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<v Speaker 1>marched down the field and reached the end zone on

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<v Speaker 1>its opening drive was Game nine last year against the Saints. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals first play of the game was a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one yard pass the Tyler Boyd. Their second play was

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty six yard run by Joe Mixon. Eventually the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals reached the Cleveland six yard line, but that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the drive stalled. It becomes a thirty four yard field

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<v Speaker 1>goal attempt for Randy Bullock to snap to put down

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<v Speaker 1>the kick. It is high enough, it is long enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is good. So an excellent start for Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>as the Bengals drive down the field and take a

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<v Speaker 1>three nothing lead on a thirty four yard field goal

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<v Speaker 1>by Randy Bullock. When Cleveland got the ball for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, the Bengals picked off Baker Mayfield, former High

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<v Speaker 1>Trophy winner, takes the snap, looks to throw guns it

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<v Speaker 1>over the middle. Najoku bobbled it, but he pulled it

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<v Speaker 1>in its taken away by Cincinnati. The Bengals are running

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<v Speaker 1>it back, Nick Vigil running up the far sideline, and

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<v Speaker 1>Vigil is taken down near midfield. So Vigil peeled the

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<v Speaker 1>ball away from David Najoku. Not sure it'll if it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be ruled a fumble or an interception, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>a takeaway if it stands, and the Bengals will have

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<v Speaker 1>the ball at their own forty nine yard lone. He

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<v Speaker 1>just took it away from like they're gonna they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say he's down before it got taken away. On the field,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a fumble recovered by the defense, but first

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<v Speaker 1>down Cincinnati. That's officially an interception because Vigil ripped the

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<v Speaker 1>ball out of Najoku's hands before the Cleveland tight end

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<v Speaker 1>hit the ground, but the Bengals failed to capitalize. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Mixon was called for unnecessary roughness when he scuffled with

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's cornerback Greedy Williams after a two yard run. That

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen yard penalty put the Bengals in to a bad

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<v Speaker 1>down and distance dilemma. Third and twenty three, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>at their own forty eight. Dalton throws a short pass accepted,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's being run back down the near sideline by

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<v Speaker 1>Denzel Ward. He's at the twenty. Andy Dalton gives at

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<v Speaker 1>him at the ten, can't make the tackle, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pick six for the Cleveland brown He's throw it

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<v Speaker 1>behind d take, bad throw by Andy. Dalton throws behind

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<v Speaker 1>on and take and the deflection the play by Ward

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a pick six. Employ What a change of

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<v Speaker 1>momentum that was. The Browns were up seven three, and

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<v Speaker 1>here's mixing on his penalty on the previous play early

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<v Speaker 1>on in the game, emotions is running high. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know even when my penalty, who came back apologize

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<v Speaker 1>on my teammates. You know, I gotta know better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>They they want to take me out the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>they tried, but you know, didn't work. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, Man, we just gotta keep on grinding,

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<v Speaker 1>controlling mo we can control and we can't hide the

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<v Speaker 1>penalties like that. I mean, it hurts the team and

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<v Speaker 1>potentially that went right there at least from one. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it hurts. So like I said, man, it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to do better and key control the control. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>responded with another drive into the red zone, but for

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<v Speaker 1>the second straight time, couldn't reach the end zone. Third

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<v Speaker 1>down in seven at the eighteen yard line of the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns, the Bengals trailing seven three in the first quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton catches a shot gun snap, sets up the throw,

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<v Speaker 1>and gets sacked. An inside bull rush topples him back

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<v Speaker 1>at the twenty nine yard line. Sheldon Richardson with his

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<v Speaker 1>second tackle in the backfield on this drive. A Randy

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<v Speaker 1>Bullock field goal made it seven six and One minute later,

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati picked off Mayfield for the second time in the

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<v Speaker 1>first quarter. Mayfield ready for the shotgun snap and the

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<v Speaker 1>first pick in last year's draft has the ball sets

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<v Speaker 1>up in the pocket, guns it down field and it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't accepted by Jesse Bates at the forty of Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>running down the far sideline to the thirty, the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five stays in bounds, runs to the twenty and gets

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<v Speaker 1>tackled at the twenty yard line. It was a ricochet.

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<v Speaker 1>It floated into the hands of Jesse Bates and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals have their second takeaway here in the first quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna come back dark Quest and Art had an

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<v Speaker 1>illegal block appeal back block on the return. The interception

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna stand, but on the return that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>decated by another penalty. This time the Bengals overcame the penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals go hurry up so that Cleveland cannot change personnel.

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<v Speaker 1>On first down in goal, Dalton hands it off to

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<v Speaker 1>Mixon and he runs it right up the gut and

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<v Speaker 1>into the end zone far up Bengals touchdown. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>had a thirteen seven lead and Nixon had an incredible day.

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<v Speaker 1>Rushing for a career high one hundred and forty six

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<v Speaker 1>yards and adding forty more on three pass receptions. Here's Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Coase did a grid job dealing him up,

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<v Speaker 1>and our linement did a grid job ceiling and kicking

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<v Speaker 1>out and doing what you know, it was tough to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just going in or finding him on

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<v Speaker 1>the lot of host today and you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to explode through and finished my run strong.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, like I said, man, he's gotta keep

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<v Speaker 1>getting better each and every week. And I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>we had it in the right direction, but he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to come out and finish. In the first half, Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>outgained Cleveland two forty two to one thirty nine, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet the Browns went to the locker room with a

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<v Speaker 1>one point lead. Third down in goal from the seven

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<v Speaker 1>shotgun snap blitz coming, Mayfield steps up. He's scrambling, laughed,

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<v Speaker 1>Mayfield will tie for the pylon? Did he step out first? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a touchdown for the Cleveland Browns. It was fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen Cleveland at the half. I talked to Tyler Boyd

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<v Speaker 1>about dominating the stat sheet but not the scoreboard. He

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<v Speaker 1>went up and down the field all day. Were there

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<v Speaker 1>times that you almost looked up at the scoreboard and wondered,

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<v Speaker 1>how are we not winning? Fox? Absolutely because like I mentioned, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we outplayed them guys. You know, we just just the

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<v Speaker 1>little plays that happened throughout the game that didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>our way and we didn't execute. And a raise on

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<v Speaker 1>both times, man heard us. You know, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>score in Uni raise on three point thin going win

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<v Speaker 1>you games, you know, So we just gotta we just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do a better job of it, executing whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>play calls. In the second half, the Browns did a

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<v Speaker 1>better job of using the NFL's leading rusher, Nick Chubb.

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<v Speaker 1>He had three carries for seven yards in the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>He finished the game with fifteen carries for one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>six yards. Looked like we had early movement. There's the

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<v Speaker 1>penalty flag, gets a handoff to Chubb. He breaks through

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<v Speaker 1>ankle tackles. He's sprinting down the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to take it inside the twenty fifteen, cuts

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<v Speaker 1>back to the ten five. He gets tackled by Will

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson at the three yard line. Will it come back

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<v Speaker 1>or was it on Cincinnati? Well? The Bengals were definitely

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<v Speaker 1>in the nutro zone. Will they drawn number ninety three

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<v Speaker 1>defense tenets defined he's all for the play. First found

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Brown jumped offside. They called him on ninety three.

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<v Speaker 1>He went in the nutro zone and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudd down anemic running game looks great. All you do

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<v Speaker 1>is need to break one like Chubb broke and he

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<v Speaker 1>is something and else. Boy, he finishes every run as

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<v Speaker 1>hard as he possibly can. From there, Kareem Hunt ran

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<v Speaker 1>it in to give Cleveland a twenty one to thirteen lead.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals answered with a sixteen play drive that included

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<v Speaker 1>runs of six, eight, nineteen, and six by mixing, but

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<v Speaker 1>on first and goal from the two, Joe did not

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<v Speaker 1>get the ball. They trailed by eight. Dalton the shotgun

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<v Speaker 1>drops back to throw looking and he gets hit from behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he hold down to the ball. Yeah, he managed

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<v Speaker 1>to hold on to the ball. I thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to get stripped from behind. He goes down They'll

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<v Speaker 1>say at the nine yard line. That's a bad place

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<v Speaker 1>to take a sack. But the protection was horrible and

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<v Speaker 1>everything just collapsed on him on the back side. Two

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<v Speaker 1>incomplete passes later, the Bengals settled for another field goal

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<v Speaker 1>after having a first down at the two yard line.

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<v Speaker 1>The Browns didn't have to get close to the red

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<v Speaker 1>zone to get the same results. From fifty three yards

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<v Speaker 1>away with Cleveland up by five, the snap to put

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<v Speaker 1>down the kick. It is long enough and it is good.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals get to the two yard line and get

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<v Speaker 1>three points. The Browns get to the forty yard line

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<v Speaker 1>and get three points. Technically, the Browns made it to

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty five, but you get the point. On their

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<v Speaker 1>first four red zone drives, the Bengals scored one touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>and kicked three field goals. On their final red zone drive,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't score at all. Fourth and goal from the four,

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton waits for a shotgun snap, three receivers and a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch out to the right. Two receivers go out to

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<v Speaker 1>the left. Dalton stomps the right foot and he catches

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<v Speaker 1>the shotgun snap looks to run. Talton, trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>a running lane, tackled at the two and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>get nothing that came with seven fourteen to go, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals passing up a chip shot field goal that could

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<v Speaker 1>have pulled them within five to go for it on

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<v Speaker 1>fourth and goal from the four. Zach Taylor explained after

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<v Speaker 1>the game that part of his thinking was that if

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals didn't get a touchdown, the Browns would be

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<v Speaker 1>backed up deep in their own territory, and if the

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<v Speaker 1>defense that played so well in the first half got

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<v Speaker 1>another stop, the offense would get the ball back in

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<v Speaker 1>good field position. That's almost how it played out. Mayfield

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for a shotgun snap, Landry motions to the right.

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<v Speaker 1>He's back to throw, He's looking left. His pass is

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<v Speaker 1>intercepted a ricochet. The Bengals have it in the red zone,

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<v Speaker 1>as that pass intended for Odell Beckham Junior was patted

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air and intercepted, and the Bengals will

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<v Speaker 1>have it at the sixteen yard line. Jessie Bates comes

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<v Speaker 1>away with a pick. Half a review, there was pass

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<v Speaker 1>interference hunder twenty two defense ball will replace at the

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<v Speaker 1>start of the foul first out. A year ago, that

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<v Speaker 1>would have been an interception, but the rule change that

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<v Speaker 1>resulted from last year's Saints Ram's playoff game allows the

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<v Speaker 1>officials to look for pass interference on replays even if

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<v Speaker 1>there was no call on the field called on Will

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson and gave the ball back to the Browns. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Boyd. Man today, I felt like that nothing was

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<v Speaker 1>going our way. You know. I didn't feel a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cars that they made was bullcrap. Man. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the right calls. And I feel like they played with

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<v Speaker 1>the rest was on their side. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first game actually I felt that the rest

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<v Speaker 1>was on their side. You know. But the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the days that came in. Can't worry about that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to continue to play our game and just

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<v Speaker 1>make place. Following that call, each team kicked the field

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<v Speaker 1>goal to make the final score. Cleveland twenty seven, Cincinnati nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Joe Mixon. You know, we had our opportunities out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We could we couldn't capitalize on some and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some we just couldn't control. Man. So at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, like I said, we just got to

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<v Speaker 1>come out and play better and hopefully, you know, come

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<v Speaker 1>out and win them close. Once we got three more

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<v Speaker 1>weeks to put it on tape, and I was, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we just got to keep progressing and getting

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<v Speaker 1>better with each other, EASi and every week. Now time

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<v Speaker 1>for a pair of one on one locker room conversation. First,

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to Jesse Bates, who had two interceptions. Unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>only one of them counted. This is one of those games,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse were Statistically you'd think the Bengals won easily, but

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<v Speaker 1>between the inability to score in some of the red

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<v Speaker 1>zone and some really costly penalties, you wind up with

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<v Speaker 1>the loss. Yeah, I think do we win the turnover battle?

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<v Speaker 1>You did? Yeah, So, um, anytime you do that and

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<v Speaker 1>you know you out gain them, Um, it sucks. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think we played well enough to win, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't consistently enough to win today. So um, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it sucks obviously, but um, we got another opportunity next

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<v Speaker 1>week to gain some more momentum as a team going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>We're there times where he almost looked up at the

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<v Speaker 1>scoreboard and said, how are we not winning? Yeah, even

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<v Speaker 1>when we're down on going into halftime, I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>we were winning. Um. I don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's a good thing. We're having good vibes around here,

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<v Speaker 1>so um, yeah, I mean we felt I felt confident

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<v Speaker 1>that we're gonna win that game whole the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>start start from the beginning. So you didn't ultimately, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>keep the street going of seventeen points or fewer. They

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<v Speaker 1>had to pick six that contributed. But did you feel

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<v Speaker 1>this was another solid performance by the defense? Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously there's a lot of good things that we did,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things I can get better. UM. Think

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<v Speaker 1>in the third quarter they rushed the ball pretty well

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<v Speaker 1>on us. UM. But you know, you gotta go into

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<v Speaker 1>film tomorrow and you know make the corrections on the

0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.800
<v Speaker 1>long run by Chubb. There was an offside on that play.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a brief hesitation on the defense where you

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<v Speaker 1>wondered whether the play was going to go? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>actually missed that TAFA. Yeah, so un sucks. But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this, we can't control what the rest do. We

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<v Speaker 1>got to control what we can make place. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon had one hundred and eighty plus rushing receiving

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<v Speaker 1>yards combined. U does it bum you out when he

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<v Speaker 1>as an individual moments like that and it doesn't end

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<v Speaker 1>didn't win. Um. You don't really think about it in individually.

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<v Speaker 1>Who has a good game? UM? All that matters is, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>what if it's a w or L at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. UM. And unfortunately we lost again. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But Yeah, it's exciting for Joe. I mean, he works hard, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and he deserves all the success that he's having, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised at all for the season. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really the only time I can remember where

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<v Speaker 1>penalty is really played a huge role in costing a game. Yeah,

0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.640
<v Speaker 1>we talked about it. Honestly, we talked about in the

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<v Speaker 1>team meeting room that we knew that they were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be chirping a lot um, that they're gonna get penalized

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<v Speaker 1>a lot um, and unfortunately that we were. We were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the same the same team today. Um on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the penalty side. And now time to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from head coach Zach Taylor, who spent four minutes with

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<v Speaker 1>lap right after the game. Has to be a frustrating one, coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you get four hundred yards offense, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone five times in the red zone one

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown down, three field goals and no points on on

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<v Speaker 1>downs one time that that was a big factor in

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<v Speaker 1>the football game. Yeah, on the road, Uh, those are

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<v Speaker 1>those four point players are critical. Um, we just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do enough, good enough job. You know, it's the first

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<v Speaker 1>and second down. I thought we were efficient, did a

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<v Speaker 1>nice job all game, but third down, the low red

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<v Speaker 1>zone killed us. You win the turnover battle for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time all year, you have two, they have one,

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<v Speaker 1>but they get it. They get points. They get seven

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<v Speaker 1>points on the pick six, So that that was an unfortunate,

0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.800
<v Speaker 1>unfortunate deal when they get you know, unscripted points like that. Yeah. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought in the first half our defense had played well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, held them seven points and gave us a

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<v Speaker 1>good good um put us in a good situation there,

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately the second half they came out and took

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<v Speaker 1>it to us and we we just weren't good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Third down was another area where Bengals three for twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>They are seven for twelve. Baker Mayfields tried to touchdown

0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.080
<v Speaker 1>runs on third down they made. They had a third

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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen they converted and you know, the pick six

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<v Speaker 1>was on a third and twenty whatever it was. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, good happened for them on third down. Tough

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<v Speaker 1>happened for the Cincinnati and third then that was a

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<v Speaker 1>big factor as well. It's what it boils down to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've got to be better situationally, and today

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<v Speaker 1>on both sides of the ball, we were not good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And then penalties was the other thing. I jotted down

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<v Speaker 1>eight penalties for ninety nine yards. They had six for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty and pretty frustrating when they look at an interception

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<v Speaker 1>on replay to see if there's a penalty involved, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe there was. I don't know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like in the NFL, these games are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take seven hours if they if they start looking

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<v Speaker 1>at every play and trying to determine if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>penalty anywhere, it's difficult to know what they're what they're thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just got to go with it. So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that coming into the football game, you were the least

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<v Speaker 1>penalized team by yards, a totally yards in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League, and they were they were worst. And then

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<v Speaker 1>today that you know, to have it be unbalanced by

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<v Speaker 1>my sixty nine yards, that that's not something you obviously expected.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially in the first half. There were two there. First

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<v Speaker 1>one on the drive right before the interception that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to do better job control in our emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a good drive there set us back, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we had another one right there before the half

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<v Speaker 1>and we were moving pretty well. We had the blindside

0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:02.800
<v Speaker 1>block that really hurt us. So we just gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>better job controlling our emotions and those situations. So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean in the red zone, Um, I guess once you

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<v Speaker 1>do have an issue with in the red zone possession,

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<v Speaker 1>does it almost like putting more pressure on the next

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<v Speaker 1>one to make up for the problems you had on

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<v Speaker 1>the one priority to just try to treat everyone individually,

0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.840
<v Speaker 1>treat each one individually. You know. That's we had a

0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.200
<v Speaker 1>first and goal from the two and we take a

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<v Speaker 1>sack and you're not normally anticipating that, but it happens,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And uh so we just gotta be able

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<v Speaker 1>to recover from it. Ended up kicking field goal there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we went four on the fourth down there

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of possessions later and felt like we had

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<v Speaker 1>a good look. We just got to execute it. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is the is it seventh game or is it

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<v Speaker 1>eighth game? I've lost track now that have been decided

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<v Speaker 1>by a score or less, you know, eight points or less,

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<v Speaker 1>then another one by ten points or less. SA again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like you're in all these football games.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a matter of not allowing them to make

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<v Speaker 1>one explosive, you make in one more explosive. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a fine line in the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 1>it is, you know, and we got we gotta find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to make those plays and felt like they're

0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in the late fourth quarter. We created an interception, felt

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<v Speaker 1>good about it. I know they took it away from

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<v Speaker 1>us and called a penalty on us, but those are

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<v Speaker 1>the plays we're looking to create. We gotta be the

0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.200
<v Speaker 1>team that makes those plays in the fourth quarter that

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go win the games. So I know when

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<v Speaker 1>you when you asked for them to take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at the middle screen that Landry had, I thought maybe

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<v Speaker 1>initially Petonio was downfield. He wasn't when I saw the replay,

0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.040
<v Speaker 1>but man, it wasn't the tight end. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>little looked like a little pick action going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you guys saw, Is that what you

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<v Speaker 1>were looking at to see if that's what sprung the

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<v Speaker 1>Landry in that middle screen? Yeah, they can't be walking

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<v Speaker 1>down field before the ball scot And it's as simple

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<v Speaker 1>as that. So what was their explanation? I saw that.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you out there, you know, leading the case

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<v Speaker 1>to them, and it was it just deaf ears by them,

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<v Speaker 1>or what kind of an answer did he give you

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<v Speaker 1>if any couldn't see it, couldn't see it. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even see it on the tape man. When it rains,

0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 1>it pours. Huh, Thank Zach. The Bengals finished with a

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<v Speaker 1>season high four hundred and fifty one yards of offense,

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<v Speaker 1>one seventy nine rushing and two seventy two pat sing.

0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield, who had seven touchdown passes and no interceptions

0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and two wins over the Bengals last year, finished eleven

0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.639
<v Speaker 1>for twenty four for one hundred ninety two yards, with

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<v Speaker 1>no touchdowns, two picks, and a passer rating of thirty

0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:20.679
<v Speaker 1>eight point nine. And yet my only scoring sixteen points

0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.119
<v Speaker 1>instead of thirty five points on five trips into the

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:28.000
<v Speaker 1>red zone. The Bengals fell to one and twelve. The

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<v Speaker 1>twilight zone or red zone is where I began my

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<v Speaker 1>postgame conversation with Laps. It's remarkable to me because on

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<v Speaker 1>the season, the defense for the Cleveland Browns have allowed

0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty two touchdowns and thirty seven opportunities fifty nine and

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<v Speaker 1>a half percent of the time, better than a fifty

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:51.160
<v Speaker 1>fifty proposition. They were given up a touchdown today, one time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, touchdown and five opportunities. That's twenty percent. That's

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<v Speaker 1>almost forty percent under the norm for the Cleveland Browns

0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.639
<v Speaker 1>all season long. So I mean, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it was to Cleveland what the Cleveland Browns were doing

0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.399
<v Speaker 1>or what the Cincinnati Bengals weren't doing, but it wasn't pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, one touchdown from the one yard line, first

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 1>and goal from the two yard line, had to settle

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 1>for field goal, one touchdown, three field goals, one time,

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<v Speaker 1>no points. Just can't win football games doing that. They

0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:19.960
<v Speaker 1>were two for three. They get in the red zone

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.920
<v Speaker 1>three times and scored twice on a defense that was

0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:26.960
<v Speaker 1>third in the NFL in touchdown percentage, and they scored

0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.480
<v Speaker 1>sixty six point seven percent of the time testedown sort

0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of me that was a big deal. In the condensed

0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:37.280
<v Speaker 1>short field where the Bengals defensively had a big eight edge,

0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.840
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't there today, and the offensively struggles that they've

0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.479
<v Speaker 1>had in the fad struggles were magnified. I mean they

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 1>struggles not the word for it. It was worse than that.

0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.960
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have been among the least penalized teams in

0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the NFL all year. Today they had ninety nine penalty yards.

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<v Speaker 1>But beyond that they were just gut punching penalties that

0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.280
<v Speaker 1>wiped out big gains or in one case, took away

0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:03.960
<v Speaker 1>an interception late in the game. It seemed like almost

0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 1>every penalty the Bengals had was devastating. Yeah, and on

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the season, they were averaging, you know, less than fifty yards,

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 1>like forty some ode yards leading the NFL, and Cleveland

0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:17.119
<v Speaker 1>was well over nine hundred, most in the NFL. And

0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:20.520
<v Speaker 1>today they only had thirty you know whatever it was. Yeah,

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 1>thirty thirty yards on six penalties. So I mean, you

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.800
<v Speaker 1>give up almost a football field and penalties, that's that's

0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:30.119
<v Speaker 1>never good. And you know it's gonna it's gonna in

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.280
<v Speaker 1>negate some some big plays, and it certainly did. I

0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:35.320
<v Speaker 1>thought that was a big factor. I think third down

0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:37.720
<v Speaker 1>was another one. The Bengals were three for twelve and

0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Browns were seven for twelve. And like you say about

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the penalties, I mean Cleveland made plays on third down,

0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:48.200
<v Speaker 1>third and nineteen convert third down touchdown run by Baker Mayfield,

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:51.440
<v Speaker 1>third and a bunch for Andy Dalney throws a pick six.

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like tragedy on the Bengals third down failures,

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<v Speaker 1>big success on when the Cleveland Browns converted on third down,

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<v Speaker 1>so that despair was huge. First time all year the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals win the turnover battle. They have two takes and

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland has has one. Should have been three takes, but

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. But it was two takes to their one.

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<v Speaker 1>And if somebody had told me, you're gonna go up

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<v Speaker 1>to Cleveland win the turnover ratio, then they have four

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty yards and Joe mix is gonna have one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty six of them on twenty six touches.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking that's a win. That's not a win by

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<v Speaker 1>just one score. That's a win. That's a significant win.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't turn out that way. What was so effective for

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon in this game? You mentioned the totals one

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 1>forty six came on the ground on twenty three carries,

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<v Speaker 1>three receptions for forty more. What were the Bengals able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that led to that kind of day. Well,

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 1>I'd say half a dozen or more of his twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three carries. They were doing this little short toss where

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<v Speaker 1>they toss it and they'd pinned the end of the

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.120
<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage and they'd pull the center and guard.

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>They either pull Miller and Hopkins or Jordan and Hopkins.

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys get their blocks, and Joe was reading it

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<v Speaker 1>out really well. They got a lot of a lot

0:23:57.880 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>of yards in that play. They ranted a few times

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<v Speaker 1>as a play action passed because once you have your

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<v Speaker 1>crease the running the football, now run the same look

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and throw behind it, which they did. So they did

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<v Speaker 1>some good things. I mean, it was a track meet

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>between the twenties, but inside the twenty man they were

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>dropping the baton and every time they're trying to finish

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 1>the relay in the track meet, they were dropping the baton.

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 1>In ten years in the NFL, in two years in

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<v Speaker 1>the USFL, you undoubtedly had games like this where statistically

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you dominated. You probably looked up at the scoreboard during

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.200
<v Speaker 1>the course of the game and thought yourself, how aren't

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 1>we winning? What is that like as a player to

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<v Speaker 1>have a day like that? Unbelievably frustrating? You know, it's

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>um it seems like when it rains, it pours, and

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not just a you know, a thunderstorm, it's

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a fricking hurricane. I mean, it's not it's pouring. Mother

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Nature's treating you real bad. I mean, it's it is

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>he's swimming against the current. You know, you're upstream all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and games like that. Next, a home game

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday against the New England Patriots, who are ten

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and three but have a two game losing streak after

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<v Speaker 1>falling to the Texans and Chiefs. How much do you

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 1>want to bet that Bill Belichick utters were onto Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>at a news conference this week. Now time for this

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<v Speaker 1>week's fun facts conversation as we get to know the

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<v Speaker 1>person under the pads. This week, it's a rookie offensive

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>lineman out of Ohio State with a discerning palette for

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<v Speaker 1>macaroni and cheese. Time for some fun facts with Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman Michael Jordan. Born in the Cincinnati area before

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<v Speaker 1>moving away in middle school. Your grandfather was a Cincinnati firefighter.

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Your dad went to Roger Bacon High School. If you

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<v Speaker 1>could have picked an NFL team to play for, would

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati have been that team? It would have been Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>What Bengals memories do you have from your childhood? Let's

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>remember watching Chad Johnson, Rudy Johnson playing a lot. T J.

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Hindsman's out of Carson Palmer, remember watching Andrew w Worth,

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot of guys Pico who's still in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Was absolutely crazy to think about. Did I read correctly

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that you met some of those star players at a

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 1>playground when you were a kid? Yes? I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to remember meeting Chad Johnson and t J. Hismsida

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<v Speaker 1>when I was an elementary school at Zion Timple Christian Academy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a part that opened up right across from it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bengals players, some of the stars were there,

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>were visiting with Michael Jordan. You told your mom when

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you were six that you were going to play in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Why did that become a goal at such

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>an early age. I just, you know, I fell in

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>love playing football when I first started playing, and you know,

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I see guys on TV looking like they're having fun.

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>It just seemed like a bunch of fun move when

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid. So that's probably why it mainly

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 1>became a goal of mine back then. You're a big man, now,

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 1>were you always the big kid growing up? I was

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>always the tallest. It wasn't necessarily the biggest when I

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>was a freshman to high school. I was sixty four

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and one hundred and eighty five pounds. You wrestled in

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 1>high school. I saw a picture of you with some

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>poor kid in a headlock. Did you like wrestling? I

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>loved wrestling. Wrestling definitely helped me with the mental toughness

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of any sport I played, you know, whether it be

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>football or whether it was track or wrestling itself. You know,

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm really thankful to go through that experience. You were

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>involved in martial arts as well, right, Yeah, I was

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:38.360
<v Speaker 1>for middle school. And do you have a black belt? Yes?

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I do. How did that help you? It helped me

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 1>just become disciplined throughout my entire life. When you have

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>goals that you need to accomplish, you have to be

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>very disciplined. You have to tell yourself to how you're

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>going to do it, and then you actually actually have

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 1>to follow it. And I think taekwondo helped a lot

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>with that. So I mentioned that you were born and

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>raised here until middle school before moving first to South

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Carolina and then going to a high school in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Your high school wasn't too far from ann Arbor, twenty

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 1>minutes away, but you went to Ohio State. How did

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>the folks in your high school take that news? My

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>best friends, you know, they get They showed a lot

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of love, But other people, like teachers and stuff, they

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>were always giving me tons of crat. You're always a

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>good student. What was your favorite course at Ohio State

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and why did you enjoy it? Probably either entrepreneurship or

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>business management, just because it taught me a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>myself and what I enjoy outside of football. I've read

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that you've taken courses in Chinese. What about learning that

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>language appealed to you? To be honest, I didn't really

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted to take Chinese. I watch a lot of anime

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to learn Japanese, but Chinese was offered

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>out of school, so I just took it for the

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>four years I was in high school. I'm probably gonna

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>try to hear out in the next year to probably

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>pick up on either Japanese or Mandarin, just because of

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the TV shows I watched. We're doing Fun Facts with

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan. You were fourth round draft picked by the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>Describe draft night. Um, it was really special moment. I

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>had all my family, but I wasn't called when I

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>was wanted to, but I still had a lot of

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>my loved ones there who supported me. And when I

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>got the call from since Snap Bengals, I was actually

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>asleep and the phone was ringing and I got really excited.

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>So I've seen the video online of you getting the

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>phone call, and you can hear a woman's voice in

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>the background screaming, whoa, yeah, whoo. I'm not doing a

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>very good imitation. Was that your mom or who was that?

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>It's probably either my aunt or my mom. I don't

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>remember the person's voice, but it was probably it was

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>My aunt was the one who took the videos, so

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>if it was really loud directly, it was probably my aunt.

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>But the voice was far away. It's probably my mom.

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it was your aunt. Yeah. Well, if we

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>hear screaming in the stands go number sixty, well, no,

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it's probably your aud all right. A few other questions

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>from Michael Jordan. What is your guilty pleasure? What unhealthy

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>food do you have a hard time saying? No too

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>macaroni and cheese, no hesitation, No hesitation, mom's homemade version

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>or another family member's homemade version or craft right out

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>of the box. You know, my great Grandma's macaroni cheese

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the best I've ever had, and then second best probably

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>my mom, and then third i'd probably saying a recruiting

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>trip to Notre Dame, I really take macaroni very seriously. Clearly,

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>despite that great macaroni and cheese that you're fighting, Irish

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>could not secure your services close. I mean, I was

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>like I was, I was ready to commit right off,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, all right, attention, recruiters have good

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>mac and cheese. What do you like to shop for.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm really big in the tech, so I like to

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>buy speakers. I listen to music a lot. Just about

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>a game chair because I play PS four a lot too,

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>all right, forgive my ignorance. I have a thirteen year

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>old son who plays a lot of Xbox. But what

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>is a game chair. It's just a chair that it's

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>very comfortable. Minds has speakers in it so I can

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>hear the game very loud and clear. But it's nice

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and it says Minds has a swollboment so I can

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>turn through sixty. All right. Interesting to know. Aside from

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>professional athlete, have you had any other jobs. I had

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>an internship with Monster financials swimmer, just as an intern

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to a financial advisor. Did you learn anything that's useful? Oh? Yeah,

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I learned a lots, especially by managing money and what

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you should do with it. Hopefully that'll come in very

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>handy if you have a long NFL career. If you

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>could meet anybody in history, politician, athlete, actor, religious figure, whomever,

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>who would that person be. Michael Jackson? Michael Jackson, the

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>king of pop, lifelong fan since day one, music cranking

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>in the Jordan household all the time when I was younger,

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Mom a fan, dad a fan, or everybody in the family.

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, my dad, he's more to run DNC and

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>then my mom. It's kind of hard to say. I

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>know when I was a little kid, my mom used

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>always forced us to listen to country music. Shame on you, mom.

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, final question for Michael Jordan. You share a

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>name with the most famous athlete on the planet. Did

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the basketball legend have anything to do with you being

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>named Michael Jordan? I was known not to my father.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>It's his middle name, isn't it correct? How did you

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>feel about sharing a name with the basketball legend? You know,

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, of course, as like that's exciting.

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>But as you get older and you figure out who

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you are and you realize you're not that great at basketball,

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of six and you're an old lineman, so you

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>couldn't wear twenty three, so there's no problem there. Yeah,

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this, appreciate your time. Best of luck the rest

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>of the way. Thank you. That's Michael Jordan. Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>quick invitation to join us on location this week on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday afternoon from three to six, we'll be at Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>Wings and Rings in Oakley for the Bengals pep Rally Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are tentatively scheduled to have Joe Mixon as

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>our guest in the final hour. We'll have plenty of

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>giveaways too. That's going to do it for this episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast. If you haven't done so already, don't

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