1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast The Hell If I'm Stepping into 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: the Twilight Zone addition, as we look back at a 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: twenty seven to nineteen loss in Cleveland where the red 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: zone became the twilight zone for the Bengals offense. Coming up, 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: you'll hear radio replays, one on one, locker room interviews, 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: and Dave Lapham will join me for postgame analysis. Plus 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: in this week's fun Facts Conversation, it's rookie offensive lineman 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan who reveals that he almost went to Notre 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Dame instead of Ohio State because of the Macaronian cheese 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: that he was served on his recruiting trip. And yes, 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: the discussion of that topic is as entertaining as it sounds. 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: All of that is straight ahead. But first, here's a 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: by subscribe d on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since maps or apps 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: that calculate driving time. On Sunday afternoon, we learned that 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: the UC football team is headed to the Birmingham Bowl 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: on January second. I have a basketball game to do 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: the night before, so I plugged Cincinnati and Birmingham into 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: the Ways app and instantaneously learned that it's a six 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: and a half hour drive from my house. Not bad. 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: Two days later, I have a basketball game to do 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: at two Lane, so I plugged Birmingham and New Orleans 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: into Google Maps and that's a five hour drive. Again 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: not bad. If like me, you're old enough to remember 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: when you had to get out an actual map and 29 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: try to guestimate driving time, you can appreciate just how 30 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: convenient it is to have technology available that calculates that 31 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: with a touch of a button. Now, let's get to 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: the opening drive of Sunday's game in Cleveland. The Bengals 33 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: have not scored an opening drive touchdown in twenty games. 34 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: They did run the opening kickoff back for a score 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: at Baltimore this year, but the last time the offense 36 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: marched down the field and reached the end zone on 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: its opening drive was Game nine last year against the Saints. Yesterday, 38 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals first play of the game was a twenty 39 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: one yard pass the Tyler Boyd. Their second play was 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: a twenty six yard run by Joe Mixon. Eventually the 41 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: Bengals reached the Cleveland six yard line, but that's where 42 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: the drive stalled. It becomes a thirty four yard field 43 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: goal attempt for Randy Bullock to snap to put down 44 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: the kick. It is high enough, it is long enough, 45 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: and it is good. So an excellent start for Cincinnati 46 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: as the Bengals drive down the field and take a 47 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: three nothing lead on a thirty four yard field goal 48 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: by Randy Bullock. When Cleveland got the ball for the 49 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: first time, the Bengals picked off Baker Mayfield, former High 50 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: Trophy winner, takes the snap, looks to throw guns it 51 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: over the middle. Najoku bobbled it, but he pulled it 52 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: in its taken away by Cincinnati. The Bengals are running 53 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: it back, Nick Vigil running up the far sideline, and 54 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Vigil is taken down near midfield. So Vigil peeled the 55 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: ball away from David Najoku. Not sure it'll if it'll 56 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: be ruled a fumble or an interception, but it is 57 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: a takeaway if it stands, and the Bengals will have 58 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: the ball at their own forty nine yard lone. He 59 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: just took it away from like they're gonna they're gonna 60 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: say he's down before it got taken away. On the field, 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: there is a fumble recovered by the defense, but first 62 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: down Cincinnati. That's officially an interception because Vigil ripped the 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: ball out of Najoku's hands before the Cleveland tight end 64 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: hit the ground, but the Bengals failed to capitalize. Joe 65 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Mixon was called for unnecessary roughness when he scuffled with 66 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Brown's cornerback Greedy Williams after a two yard run. That 67 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty put the Bengals in to a bad 68 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: down and distance dilemma. Third and twenty three, the Bengals 69 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: at their own forty eight. Dalton throws a short pass accepted, 70 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: and it's being run back down the near sideline by 71 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: Denzel Ward. He's at the twenty. Andy Dalton gives at 72 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: him at the ten, can't make the tackle, and it's 73 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: a pick six for the Cleveland brown He's throw it 74 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: behind d take, bad throw by Andy. Dalton throws behind 75 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: on and take and the deflection the play by Ward 76 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: and it's a pick six. Employ What a change of 77 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: momentum that was. The Browns were up seven three, and 78 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 1: here's mixing on his penalty on the previous play early 79 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: on in the game, emotions is running high. And uh, 80 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: you know even when my penalty, who came back apologize 81 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: on my teammates. You know, I gotta know better than that. 82 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: They they want to take me out the game, and 83 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: they tried, but you know, didn't work. At the end 84 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: of the day, Man, we just gotta keep on grinding, 85 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: controlling mo we can control and we can't hide the 86 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: penalties like that. I mean, it hurts the team and 87 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: potentially that went right there at least from one. I 88 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: mean it hurts. So like I said, man, it's got 89 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 1: to do better and key control the control. The Bengals 90 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: responded with another drive into the red zone, but for 91 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: the second straight time, couldn't reach the end zone. Third 92 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: down in seven at the eighteen yard line of the 93 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, the Bengals trailing seven three in the first quarter. 94 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: Dalton catches a shot gun snap, sets up the throw, 95 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: and gets sacked. An inside bull rush topples him back 96 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: at the twenty nine yard line. Sheldon Richardson with his 97 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: second tackle in the backfield on this drive. A Randy 98 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: Bullock field goal made it seven six and One minute later, 99 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: Cincinnati picked off Mayfield for the second time in the 100 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: first quarter. Mayfield ready for the shotgun snap and the 101 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 1: first pick in last year's draft has the ball sets 102 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: up in the pocket, guns it down field and it 103 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: isn't accepted by Jesse Bates at the forty of Cleveland 104 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: running down the far sideline to the thirty, the twenty 105 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: five stays in bounds, runs to the twenty and gets 106 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: tackled at the twenty yard line. It was a ricochet. 107 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: It floated into the hands of Jesse Bates and the 108 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: Bengals have their second takeaway here in the first quarter. 109 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna come back dark Quest and Art had an 110 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: illegal block appeal back block on the return. The interception 111 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: is gonna stand, but on the return that's gonna be 112 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: decated by another penalty. This time the Bengals overcame the penalty. 113 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: Bengals go hurry up so that Cleveland cannot change personnel. 114 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: On first down in goal, Dalton hands it off to 115 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Mixon and he runs it right up the gut and 116 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: into the end zone far up Bengals touchdown. The Bengals 117 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: had a thirteen seven lead and Nixon had an incredible day. 118 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: Rushing for a career high one hundred and forty six 119 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: yards and adding forty more on three pass receptions. Here's Joe. 120 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: I think Coase did a grid job dealing him up, 121 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: and our linement did a grid job ceiling and kicking 122 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: out and doing what you know, it was tough to do. 123 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: And I was just going in or finding him on 124 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: the lot of host today and you know, I was 125 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: just trying to explode through and finished my run strong. 126 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: So you know, like I said, man, he's gotta keep 127 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: getting better each and every week. And I felt like 128 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: we had it in the right direction, but he's got 129 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: to come out and finish. In the first half, Cincinnati 130 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: outgained Cleveland two forty two to one thirty nine, and 131 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: yet the Browns went to the locker room with a 132 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: one point lead. Third down in goal from the seven 133 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: shotgun snap blitz coming, Mayfield steps up. He's scrambling, laughed, 134 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: Mayfield will tie for the pylon? Did he step out first? No, 135 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: it's a touchdown for the Cleveland Browns. It was fourteen 136 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: thirteen Cleveland at the half. I talked to Tyler Boyd 137 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: about dominating the stat sheet but not the scoreboard. He 138 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: went up and down the field all day. Were there 139 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: times that you almost looked up at the scoreboard and wondered, 140 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: how are we not winning? Fox? Absolutely because like I mentioned, Man, 141 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: we outplayed them guys. You know, we just just the 142 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: little plays that happened throughout the game that didn't go 143 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: our way and we didn't execute. And a raise on 144 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: both times, man heard us. You know, you've got to 145 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: score in Uni raise on three point thin going win 146 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: you games, you know, So we just gotta we just 147 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: gotta do a better job of it, executing whatever the 148 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: play calls. In the second half, the Browns did a 149 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: better job of using the NFL's leading rusher, Nick Chubb. 150 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: He had three carries for seven yards in the first half. 151 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: He finished the game with fifteen carries for one hundred 152 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: six yards. Looked like we had early movement. There's the 153 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: penalty flag, gets a handoff to Chubb. He breaks through 154 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: ankle tackles. He's sprinting down the middle of the field. 155 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 1: He's going to take it inside the twenty fifteen, cuts 156 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: back to the ten five. He gets tackled by Will 157 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: Jackson at the three yard line. Will it come back 158 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: or was it on Cincinnati? Well? The Bengals were definitely 159 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: in the nutro zone. Will they drawn number ninety three 160 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: defense tenets defined he's all for the play. First found 161 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Brown jumped offside. They called him on ninety three. 162 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: He went in the nutro zone and all of a 163 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: sudd down anemic running game looks great. All you do 164 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: is need to break one like Chubb broke and he 165 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: is something and else. Boy, he finishes every run as 166 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: hard as he possibly can. From there, Kareem Hunt ran 167 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: it in to give Cleveland a twenty one to thirteen lead. 168 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: The Bengals answered with a sixteen play drive that included 169 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: runs of six, eight, nineteen, and six by mixing, but 170 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: on first and goal from the two, Joe did not 171 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: get the ball. They trailed by eight. Dalton the shotgun 172 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: drops back to throw looking and he gets hit from behind. 173 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: Did he hold down to the ball. Yeah, he managed 174 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: to hold on to the ball. I thought he was 175 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: going to get stripped from behind. He goes down They'll 176 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: say at the nine yard line. That's a bad place 177 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: to take a sack. But the protection was horrible and 178 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: everything just collapsed on him on the back side. Two 179 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: incomplete passes later, the Bengals settled for another field goal 180 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: after having a first down at the two yard line. 181 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: The Browns didn't have to get close to the red 182 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: zone to get the same results. From fifty three yards 183 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: away with Cleveland up by five, the snap to put 184 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: down the kick. It is long enough and it is good. 185 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: The Bengals get to the two yard line and get 186 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: three points. The Browns get to the forty yard line 187 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: and get three points. Technically, the Browns made it to 188 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: the thirty five, but you get the point. On their 189 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: first four red zone drives, the Bengals scored one touchdown 190 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: and kicked three field goals. On their final red zone drive, 191 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: they didn't score at all. Fourth and goal from the four, 192 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: Dalton waits for a shotgun snap, three receivers and a 193 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: bunch out to the right. Two receivers go out to 194 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: the left. Dalton stomps the right foot and he catches 195 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: the shotgun snap looks to run. Talton, trying to find 196 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: a running lane, tackled at the two and the Bengals 197 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: get nothing that came with seven fourteen to go, the 198 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: Bengals passing up a chip shot field goal that could 199 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: have pulled them within five to go for it on 200 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: fourth and goal from the four. Zach Taylor explained after 201 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: the game that part of his thinking was that if 202 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: the Bengals didn't get a touchdown, the Browns would be 203 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: backed up deep in their own territory, and if the 204 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: defense that played so well in the first half got 205 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: another stop, the offense would get the ball back in 206 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: good field position. That's almost how it played out. Mayfield 207 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: waiting for a shotgun snap, Landry motions to the right. 208 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: He's back to throw, He's looking left. His pass is 209 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: intercepted a ricochet. The Bengals have it in the red zone, 210 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: as that pass intended for Odell Beckham Junior was patted 211 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: up in the air and intercepted, and the Bengals will 212 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: have it at the sixteen yard line. Jessie Bates comes 213 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: away with a pick. Half a review, there was pass 214 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: interference hunder twenty two defense ball will replace at the 215 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: start of the foul first out. A year ago, that 216 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: would have been an interception, but the rule change that 217 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: resulted from last year's Saints Ram's playoff game allows the 218 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: officials to look for pass interference on replays even if 219 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: there was no call on the field called on Will 220 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: Jackson and gave the ball back to the Browns. Here's 221 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd. Man today, I felt like that nothing was 222 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: going our way. You know. I didn't feel a lot 223 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: of cars that they made was bullcrap. Man. It wasn't 224 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: the right calls. And I feel like they played with 225 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: the rest was on their side. You know, I think 226 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: that's the first game actually I felt that the rest 227 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 1: was on their side. You know. But the end of 228 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: the days that came in. Can't worry about that, you know, 229 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 1: we got to continue to play our game and just 230 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: make place. Following that call, each team kicked the field 231 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: goal to make the final score. Cleveland twenty seven, Cincinnati nineteen. 232 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: Here's Joe Mixon. You know, we had our opportunities out there. 233 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: We could we couldn't capitalize on some and you know, 234 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: some we just couldn't control. Man. So at the end 235 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: of the day, like I said, we just got to 236 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: come out and play better and hopefully, you know, come 237 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: out and win them close. Once we got three more 238 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: weeks to put it on tape, and I was, like 239 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: I said, we just got to keep progressing and getting 240 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: better with each other, EASi and every week. Now time 241 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: for a pair of one on one locker room conversation. First, 242 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: I spoke to Jesse Bates, who had two interceptions. Unfortunately 243 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: only one of them counted. This is one of those games, 244 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: Jesse were Statistically you'd think the Bengals won easily, but 245 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: between the inability to score in some of the red 246 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: zone and some really costly penalties, you wind up with 247 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: the loss. Yeah, I think do we win the turnover battle? 248 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: You did? Yeah, So, um, anytime you do that and 249 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 1: you know you out gain them, Um, it sucks. But 250 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: I think we played well enough to win, but it 251 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: wasn't consistently enough to win today. So um, you know 252 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: it sucks obviously, but um, we got another opportunity next 253 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: week to gain some more momentum as a team going forward. 254 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: We're there times where he almost looked up at the 255 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: scoreboard and said, how are we not winning? Yeah, even 256 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: when we're down on going into halftime, I felt like 257 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: we were winning. Um. I don't know what it was. 258 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: Maybe that's a good thing. We're having good vibes around here, 259 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: so um, yeah, I mean we felt I felt confident 260 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: that we're gonna win that game whole the whole time, 261 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: start start from the beginning. So you didn't ultimately, you know, 262 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: keep the street going of seventeen points or fewer. They 263 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: had to pick six that contributed. But did you feel 264 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: this was another solid performance by the defense? Yeah. Um, 265 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: obviously there's a lot of good things that we did, 266 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: a lot of things I can get better. UM. Think 267 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: in the third quarter they rushed the ball pretty well 268 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: on us. UM. But you know, you gotta go into 269 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: film tomorrow and you know make the corrections on the 270 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: long run by Chubb. There was an offside on that play. 271 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: Was there a brief hesitation on the defense where you 272 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: wondered whether the play was going to go? Yeah? I 273 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: actually missed that TAFA. Yeah, so un sucks. But I 274 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: mean this, we can't control what the rest do. We 275 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: got to control what we can make place. I think 276 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon had one hundred and eighty plus rushing receiving 277 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: yards combined. U does it bum you out when he 278 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: as an individual moments like that and it doesn't end 279 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: didn't win. Um. You don't really think about it in individually. 280 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: Who has a good game? UM? All that matters is, UM, 281 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: what if it's a w or L at the end 282 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: of the game. UM. And unfortunately we lost again. UM. 283 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: But Yeah, it's exciting for Joe. I mean, he works hard, um, 284 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: and he deserves all the success that he's having, So 285 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at all for the season. You guys 286 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL. 287 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: This is really the only time I can remember where 288 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: penalty is really played a huge role in costing a game. Yeah, 289 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: we talked about it. Honestly, we talked about in the 290 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: team meeting room that we knew that they were gonna 291 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: be chirping a lot um, that they're gonna get penalized 292 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: a lot um, and unfortunately that we were. We were 293 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: kind of the same the same team today. Um on 294 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: the on the penalty side. And now time to hear 295 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: from head coach Zach Taylor, who spent four minutes with 296 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: lap right after the game. Has to be a frustrating one, coach. 297 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you get four hundred yards offense, but in 298 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: the red zone five times in the red zone one 299 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: touchdown down, three field goals and no points on on 300 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: downs one time that that was a big factor in 301 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: the football game. Yeah, on the road, Uh, those are 302 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: those four point players are critical. Um, we just didn't 303 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: do enough, good enough job. You know, it's the first 304 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: and second down. I thought we were efficient, did a 305 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: nice job all game, but third down, the low red 306 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: zone killed us. You win the turnover battle for the 307 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: first time all year, you have two, they have one, 308 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: but they get it. They get points. They get seven 309 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,119 Speaker 1: points on the pick six, So that that was an unfortunate, 310 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: unfortunate deal when they get you know, unscripted points like that. Yeah. Otherwise, 311 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: I thought in the first half our defense had played well, 312 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, held them seven points and gave us a 313 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: good good um put us in a good situation there, 314 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: and unfortunately the second half they came out and took 315 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: it to us and we we just weren't good enough. 316 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: Third down was another area where Bengals three for twelve. 317 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: They are seven for twelve. Baker Mayfields tried to touchdown 318 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: runs on third down they made. They had a third 319 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: and nineteen they converted and you know, the pick six 320 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: was on a third and twenty whatever it was. So, 321 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: I mean, good happened for them on third down. Tough 322 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: happened for the Cincinnati and third then that was a 323 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: big factor as well. It's what it boils down to, 324 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, we've got to be better situationally, and today 325 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, we were not good enough. 326 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: And then penalties was the other thing. I jotted down 327 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: eight penalties for ninety nine yards. They had six for 328 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: thirty and pretty frustrating when they look at an interception 329 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: on replay to see if there's a penalty involved, and 330 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: you know, maybe there was. I don't know, I just 331 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: I just feel like in the NFL, these games are 332 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: gonna take seven hours if they if they start looking 333 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: at every play and trying to determine if there's a 334 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: penalty anywhere, it's difficult to know what they're what they're thinking. 335 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: So we just got to go with it. So obviously 336 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: that coming into the football game, you were the least 337 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: penalized team by yards, a totally yards in the National 338 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: Football League, and they were they were worst. And then 339 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: today that you know, to have it be unbalanced by 340 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: my sixty nine yards, that that's not something you obviously expected. 341 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: Especially in the first half. There were two there. First 342 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: one on the drive right before the interception that, um, 343 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: we got to do better job control in our emotions. 344 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: We had a good drive there set us back, and 345 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: then we had another one right there before the half 346 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: and we were moving pretty well. We had the blindside 347 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: block that really hurt us. So we just gotta do 348 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: better job controlling our emotions and those situations. So I 349 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: mean in the red zone, Um, I guess once you 350 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: do have an issue with in the red zone possession, 351 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: does it almost like putting more pressure on the next 352 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: one to make up for the problems you had on 353 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: the one priority to just try to treat everyone individually, 354 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: treat each one individually. You know. That's we had a 355 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: first and goal from the two and we take a 356 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: sack and you're not normally anticipating that, but it happens, 357 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: you know, And uh so we just gotta be able 358 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: to recover from it. Ended up kicking field goal there, 359 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: and then we went four on the fourth down there 360 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: a couple of possessions later and felt like we had 361 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: a good look. We just got to execute it. So 362 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: this is the is it seventh game or is it 363 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: eighth game? I've lost track now that have been decided 364 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: by a score or less, you know, eight points or less, 365 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: then another one by ten points or less. SA again, 366 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's like you're in all these football games. 367 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of not allowing them to make 368 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: one explosive, you make in one more explosive. I mean, 369 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: it's such a fine line in the National Football League, 370 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: it is, you know, and we got we gotta find 371 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: a way to make those plays and felt like they're 372 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: in the late fourth quarter. We created an interception, felt 373 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: good about it. I know they took it away from 374 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: us and called a penalty on us, but those are 375 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: the plays we're looking to create. We gotta be the 376 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: team that makes those plays in the fourth quarter that 377 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: let's just go win the games. So I know when 378 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: you when you asked for them to take a look 379 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: at the middle screen that Landry had, I thought maybe 380 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: initially Petonio was downfield. He wasn't when I saw the replay, 381 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: but man, it wasn't the tight end. It was a 382 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: little looked like a little pick action going on there. 383 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: Is that what you guys saw, Is that what you 384 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: were looking at to see if that's what sprung the 385 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: Landry in that middle screen? Yeah, they can't be walking 386 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: down field before the ball scot And it's as simple 387 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: as that. So what was their explanation? I saw that. 388 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: I saw you out there, you know, leading the case 389 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: to them, and it was it just deaf ears by them, 390 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: or what kind of an answer did he give you 391 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: if any couldn't see it, couldn't see it. I can't 392 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: even see it on the tape man. When it rains, 393 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: it pours. Huh, Thank Zach. The Bengals finished with a 394 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: season high four hundred and fifty one yards of offense, 395 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: one seventy nine rushing and two seventy two pat sing. 396 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, who had seven touchdown passes and no interceptions 397 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: and two wins over the Bengals last year, finished eleven 398 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: for twenty four for one hundred ninety two yards, with 399 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: no touchdowns, two picks, and a passer rating of thirty 400 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: eight point nine. And yet my only scoring sixteen points 401 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: instead of thirty five points on five trips into the 402 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: red zone. The Bengals fell to one and twelve. The 403 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: twilight zone or red zone is where I began my 404 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: postgame conversation with Laps. It's remarkable to me because on 405 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: the season, the defense for the Cleveland Browns have allowed 406 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: twenty two touchdowns and thirty seven opportunities fifty nine and 407 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: a half percent of the time, better than a fifty 408 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: fifty proposition. They were given up a touchdown today, one time, 409 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, touchdown and five opportunities. That's twenty percent. That's 410 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: almost forty percent under the norm for the Cleveland Browns 411 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: all season long. So I mean, I don't know if 412 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: it was to Cleveland what the Cleveland Browns were doing 413 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: or what the Cincinnati Bengals weren't doing, but it wasn't pretty. 414 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, one touchdown from the one yard line, first 415 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: and goal from the two yard line, had to settle 416 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: for field goal, one touchdown, three field goals, one time, 417 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: no points. Just can't win football games doing that. They 418 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: were two for three. They get in the red zone 419 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: three times and scored twice on a defense that was 420 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: third in the NFL in touchdown percentage, and they scored 421 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: sixty six point seven percent of the time testedown sort 422 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: of me that was a big deal. In the condensed 423 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: short field where the Bengals defensively had a big eight edge, 424 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't there today, and the offensively struggles that they've 425 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: had in the fad struggles were magnified. I mean they 426 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: struggles not the word for it. It was worse than that. 427 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: The Bengals have been among the least penalized teams in 428 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: the NFL all year. Today they had ninety nine penalty yards. 429 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: But beyond that they were just gut punching penalties that 430 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: wiped out big gains or in one case, took away 431 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: an interception late in the game. It seemed like almost 432 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: every penalty the Bengals had was devastating. Yeah, and on 433 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: the season, they were averaging, you know, less than fifty yards, 434 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: like forty some ode yards leading the NFL, and Cleveland 435 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: was well over nine hundred, most in the NFL. And 436 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: today they only had thirty you know whatever it was. Yeah, 437 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: thirty thirty yards on six penalties. So I mean, you 438 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: give up almost a football field and penalties, that's that's 439 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: never good. And you know it's gonna it's gonna in 440 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: negate some some big plays, and it certainly did. I 441 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: thought that was a big factor. I think third down 442 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: was another one. The Bengals were three for twelve and 443 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: Browns were seven for twelve. And like you say about 444 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: the penalties, I mean Cleveland made plays on third down, 445 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: third and nineteen convert third down touchdown run by Baker Mayfield, 446 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: third and a bunch for Andy Dalney throws a pick six. 447 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's like tragedy on the Bengals third down failures, 448 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: big success on when the Cleveland Browns converted on third down, 449 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: so that despair was huge. First time all year the 450 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: Bengals win the turnover battle. They have two takes and 451 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: Cleveland has has one. Should have been three takes, but 452 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't. But it was two takes to their one. 453 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: And if somebody had told me, you're gonna go up 454 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: to Cleveland win the turnover ratio, then they have four 455 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: and fifty yards and Joe mix is gonna have one 456 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty six of them on twenty six touches. 457 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that's a win. That's not a win by 458 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: just one score. That's a win. That's a significant win. 459 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: Didn't turn out that way. What was so effective for 460 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon in this game? You mentioned the totals one 461 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: forty six came on the ground on twenty three carries, 462 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: three receptions for forty more. What were the Bengals able 463 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: to do that led to that kind of day. Well, 464 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: I'd say half a dozen or more of his twenty 465 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: three carries. They were doing this little short toss where 466 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: they toss it and they'd pinned the end of the 467 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and they'd pull the center and guard. 468 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: They either pull Miller and Hopkins or Jordan and Hopkins. 469 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: Those guys get their blocks, and Joe was reading it 470 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: out really well. They got a lot of a lot 471 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: of yards in that play. They ranted a few times 472 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: as a play action passed because once you have your 473 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: crease the running the football, now run the same look 474 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: and throw behind it, which they did. So they did 475 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: some good things. I mean, it was a track meet 476 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: between the twenties, but inside the twenty man they were 477 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: dropping the baton and every time they're trying to finish 478 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: the relay in the track meet, they were dropping the baton. 479 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: In ten years in the NFL, in two years in 480 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: the USFL, you undoubtedly had games like this where statistically 481 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: you dominated. You probably looked up at the scoreboard during 482 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: the course of the game and thought yourself, how aren't 483 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: we winning? What is that like as a player to 484 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: have a day like that? Unbelievably frustrating? You know, it's 485 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: um it seems like when it rains, it pours, and 486 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: it's it's not just a you know, a thunderstorm, it's 487 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: a fricking hurricane. I mean, it's not it's pouring. Mother 488 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: Nature's treating you real bad. I mean, it's it is 489 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: he's swimming against the current. You know, you're upstream all 490 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: the time, and games like that. Next, a home game 491 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: on Sunday against the New England Patriots, who are ten 492 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: and three but have a two game losing streak after 493 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: falling to the Texans and Chiefs. How much do you 494 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: want to bet that Bill Belichick utters were onto Cincinnati 495 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: at a news conference this week. Now time for this 496 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: week's fun facts conversation as we get to know the 497 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: person under the pads. This week, it's a rookie offensive 498 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: lineman out of Ohio State with a discerning palette for 499 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: macaroni and cheese. Time for some fun facts with Bengals 500 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: offensive lineman Michael Jordan. Born in the Cincinnati area before 501 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: moving away in middle school. Your grandfather was a Cincinnati firefighter. 502 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: Your dad went to Roger Bacon High School. If you 503 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: could have picked an NFL team to play for, would 504 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: Cincinnati have been that team? It would have been Cincinnati Bengals. 505 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: What Bengals memories do you have from your childhood? Let's 506 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: remember watching Chad Johnson, Rudy Johnson playing a lot. T J. 507 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: Hindsman's out of Carson Palmer, remember watching Andrew w Worth, 508 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: just a lot of guys Pico who's still in the league. 509 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: Was absolutely crazy to think about. Did I read correctly 510 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: that you met some of those star players at a 511 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: playground when you were a kid? Yes? I did. I 512 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: got to remember meeting Chad Johnson and t J. Hismsida 513 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: when I was an elementary school at Zion Timple Christian Academy. 514 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: There's a part that opened up right across from it, 515 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: and the Bengals players, some of the stars were there, 516 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: were visiting with Michael Jordan. You told your mom when 517 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: you were six that you were going to play in 518 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. Why did that become a goal at such 519 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: an early age. I just, you know, I fell in 520 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: love playing football when I first started playing, and you know, 521 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: I see guys on TV looking like they're having fun. 522 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: It just seemed like a bunch of fun move when 523 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: I was a kid. So that's probably why it mainly 524 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: became a goal of mine back then. You're a big man, now, 525 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: were you always the big kid growing up? I was 526 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: always the tallest. It wasn't necessarily the biggest when I 527 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: was a freshman to high school. I was sixty four 528 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: and one hundred and eighty five pounds. You wrestled in 529 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: high school. I saw a picture of you with some 530 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: poor kid in a headlock. Did you like wrestling? I 531 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: loved wrestling. Wrestling definitely helped me with the mental toughness 532 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: of any sport I played, you know, whether it be 533 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: football or whether it was track or wrestling itself. You know, 534 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm really thankful to go through that experience. You were 535 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: involved in martial arts as well, right, Yeah, I was 536 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: for middle school. And do you have a black belt? Yes? 537 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: I do. How did that help you? It helped me 538 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: just become disciplined throughout my entire life. When you have 539 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: goals that you need to accomplish, you have to be 540 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: very disciplined. You have to tell yourself to how you're 541 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: going to do it, and then you actually actually have 542 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: to follow it. And I think taekwondo helped a lot 543 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: with that. So I mentioned that you were born and 544 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: raised here until middle school before moving first to South 545 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: Carolina and then going to a high school in Michigan. 546 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: Your high school wasn't too far from ann Arbor, twenty 547 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: minutes away, but you went to Ohio State. How did 548 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: the folks in your high school take that news? My 549 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: best friends, you know, they get They showed a lot 550 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: of love, But other people, like teachers and stuff, they 551 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: were always giving me tons of crat. You're always a 552 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: good student. What was your favorite course at Ohio State 553 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: and why did you enjoy it? Probably either entrepreneurship or 554 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: business management, just because it taught me a lot about 555 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: myself and what I enjoy outside of football. I've read 556 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: that you've taken courses in Chinese. What about learning that 557 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: language appealed to you? To be honest, I didn't really 558 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: wanted to take Chinese. I watch a lot of anime 559 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: and I wanted to learn Japanese, but Chinese was offered 560 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: out of school, so I just took it for the 561 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: four years I was in high school. I'm probably gonna 562 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: try to hear out in the next year to probably 563 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: pick up on either Japanese or Mandarin, just because of 564 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: the TV shows I watched. We're doing Fun Facts with 565 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. You were fourth round draft picked by the Bengals. 566 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: Describe draft night. Um, it was really special moment. I 567 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: had all my family, but I wasn't called when I 568 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: was wanted to, but I still had a lot of 569 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: my loved ones there who supported me. And when I 570 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: got the call from since Snap Bengals, I was actually 571 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: asleep and the phone was ringing and I got really excited. 572 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: So I've seen the video online of you getting the 573 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: phone call, and you can hear a woman's voice in 574 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: the background screaming, whoa, yeah, whoo. I'm not doing a 575 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: very good imitation. Was that your mom or who was that? 576 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: It's probably either my aunt or my mom. I don't 577 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: remember the person's voice, but it was probably it was 578 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: My aunt was the one who took the videos, so 579 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: if it was really loud directly, it was probably my aunt. 580 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: But the voice was far away. It's probably my mom. 581 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: I think it was your aunt. Yeah. Well, if we 582 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: hear screaming in the stands go number sixty, well, no, 583 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: it's probably your aud all right. A few other questions 584 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: from Michael Jordan. What is your guilty pleasure? What unhealthy 585 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: food do you have a hard time saying? No too 586 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: macaroni and cheese, no hesitation, No hesitation, mom's homemade version 587 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: or another family member's homemade version or craft right out 588 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: of the box. You know, my great Grandma's macaroni cheese 589 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: the best I've ever had, and then second best probably 590 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: my mom, and then third i'd probably saying a recruiting 591 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: trip to Notre Dame, I really take macaroni very seriously. Clearly, 592 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: despite that great macaroni and cheese that you're fighting, Irish 593 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: could not secure your services close. I mean, I was 594 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: like I was, I was ready to commit right off, 595 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, attention, recruiters have good 596 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: mac and cheese. What do you like to shop for. 597 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm really big in the tech, so I like to 598 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: buy speakers. I listen to music a lot. Just about 599 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: a game chair because I play PS four a lot too, 600 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: all right, forgive my ignorance. I have a thirteen year 601 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: old son who plays a lot of Xbox. But what 602 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: is a game chair. It's just a chair that it's 603 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: very comfortable. Minds has speakers in it so I can 604 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: hear the game very loud and clear. But it's nice 605 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: and it says Minds has a swollboment so I can 606 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: turn through sixty. All right. Interesting to know. Aside from 607 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: professional athlete, have you had any other jobs. I had 608 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: an internship with Monster financials swimmer, just as an intern 609 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: to a financial advisor. Did you learn anything that's useful? Oh? Yeah, 610 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: I learned a lots, especially by managing money and what 611 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: you should do with it. Hopefully that'll come in very 612 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: handy if you have a long NFL career. If you 613 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: could meet anybody in history, politician, athlete, actor, religious figure, whomever, 614 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: who would that person be. Michael Jackson? Michael Jackson, the 615 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: king of pop, lifelong fan since day one, music cranking 616 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: in the Jordan household all the time when I was younger, 617 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: Mom a fan, dad a fan, or everybody in the family. 618 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: You know, my dad, he's more to run DNC and 619 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: then my mom. It's kind of hard to say. I 620 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: know when I was a little kid, my mom used 621 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: always forced us to listen to country music. Shame on you, mom. 622 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: All right, final question for Michael Jordan. You share a 623 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: name with the most famous athlete on the planet. Did 624 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: the basketball legend have anything to do with you being 625 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: named Michael Jordan? I was known not to my father. 626 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: It's his middle name, isn't it correct? How did you 627 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: feel about sharing a name with the basketball legend? You know, 628 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: I was a kid, of course, as like that's exciting. 629 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: But as you get older and you figure out who 630 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: you are and you realize you're not that great at basketball, 631 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: kind of six and you're an old lineman, so you 632 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: couldn't wear twenty three, so there's no problem there. Yeah, 633 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: enjoyed this, appreciate your time. Best of luck the rest 634 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: of the way. Thank you. That's Michael Jordan. Here's a 635 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: quick invitation to join us on location this week on 636 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon from three to six, we'll be at Buffalo 637 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: Wings and Rings in Oakley for the Bengals pep Rally Show, 638 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: and we are tentatively scheduled to have Joe Mixon as 639 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: our guest in the final hour. We'll have plenty of 640 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: giveaways too. That's going to do it for this episode 641 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: of the podcast. If you haven't done so already, don't 642 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: forget to subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and if 643 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: you have a minute, give it a rating or share 644 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: a comment. 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