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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 2: It's to show that she is the secrets of success

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Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I

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Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. And

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Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know

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Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers.

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Speaker 2: It's what he likes to do, it's what he likes

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Speaker 2: to share. Now it's time to hear from my man,

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Speaker 2: Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashaan McDonald.

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Speaker 3: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success.

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Speaker 3: For you, it may be the size of your paycheck.

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Speaker 3: Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their goals and live

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Speaker 3: their very best life. It is time to stop reading

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Speaker 3: other people's success stories and start writing your own. People

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Speaker 3: always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have

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Speaker 3: a gift, lead with your gifts and don't let your friends, family,

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Speaker 3: or coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams.

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Speaker 3: My guest is civil rights activist Say has always prevailed

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Speaker 3: against the odds rising from ged the PhD. He's a

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Speaker 3: community organizer, Doctor Jamal Harrison Briant. He combines sound biblical teaching,

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Speaker 3: business acumen, and political insight to prepare the Body of

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Speaker 3: Christ to action and grady levels of faith. He's the

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Speaker 3: senior pastor of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church. A graduate

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Speaker 3: of more House College and of Duke University, his leadership

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Speaker 3: efforts have always began to strengthen the multi generation of

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Speaker 3: bond among members, expand community outreach, cultivate families, and expand

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Speaker 3: the church's cultural significance. Please welcome the Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 3: Master Class for the very first time and hopefully not

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Speaker 3: the last, Doctor Jamal Harrison Bryant.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing, sir, doing wonderfully well, brother, Good

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Speaker 4: to hear your voice and to see your face.

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Speaker 3: Well great, the same thing there, you know, well, I

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Speaker 3: see your faceboard you see mine, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: On TV, i'd say, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, there was a time when they when they when

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Speaker 3: they when your church reopened and members were allowed back

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Speaker 3: into the church. I saw you on every channel and

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Speaker 3: that was this and that was a blessing because the

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Speaker 3: fact that you know, the journey it started in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Talk about the twenty twenty and some of the trials,

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Speaker 3: and you have to say that you went through to

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Speaker 3: overcome and question your faiths.

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Speaker 1: People. You have to deal with the health.

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Speaker 3: The black community was affected the worst are people of

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Speaker 3: brown skin tone. So talk about that twenty twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: Now in the reopening the church, it.

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Speaker 4: Was COVID was the best thing I think that ever

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Speaker 4: happened to the church. Yes, sir, because it made us

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Speaker 4: move outside of the four walls. Have you studied the

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Speaker 4: life of Jesus, Ninety two percent of what he did

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Speaker 4: was outside of the church, but the contemporary model, ninety

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Speaker 4: eight percent of what churches do is inside. And so

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Speaker 4: we had to re examine what does church need. Is

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Speaker 4: glass windows? Is it a Hammond organ or is it

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Speaker 4: service to the community. And so as a consequence, the

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Speaker 4: church never closed.

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Speaker 5: The building did.

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Speaker 4: And so since twenty twenty to today, Rashan, you ought

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Speaker 4: Since two thy twenty, over three thousand people joined our

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Speaker 5: What it's interesting to know is that culture.

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Speaker 4: Changes every four years, but Black church culture changes every twenty.

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Speaker 4: So the average church is fifteen years behind scheduled. So

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Speaker 4: a lot of churches didn't make it. Why because they

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Speaker 4: were not technologically savvy. They didn't know how to do

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Speaker 5: Approach of being high tech and high touch.

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Speaker 4: We mastered all of those through the grace of God

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Speaker 3: Well, that's really good that you're saying that, because as

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Speaker 1: What role is the church plan in that?

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Speaker 3: As far as under your leadership, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 4: because you very well know most about inner city public

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Speaker 4: the responsibility of the church is to not just advanced consumerism,

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Speaker 3: Which is really really important now, you know when they

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Speaker 1: You know, because we look at the church. You know,

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Speaker 3: Join the church, they donate and then but you walk

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Speaker 3: Was it through the members of the church? And what

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Speaker 3: plan did you put in place so it won't happen again?

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Speaker 4: We have to understand I came a little after two

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Speaker 3: So with that transition and then they're opening up New

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Speaker 1: It's really is you know you're at the forefront of it.

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Speaker 1: You know you're talking to people with their struggles they uplift.

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Speaker 3: How do you look at the new Black Wall Street

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Speaker 3: and how does the church play that role? And beyond

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Speaker 4: I think the deficit of the Black Church in large

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Speaker 4: asking people for their time, right, asking for ten percent,

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Speaker 4: I think part and parcel of my responsibility as pastor

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Speaker 5: Doctor King said.

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Speaker 4: Before his demise that African Americans spend the power made

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Speaker 4: us are the fourteenth wealthiest nation in the world. At

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Speaker 5: Anything about it.

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Speaker 4: In the Asian community here in America, their dollars circulates

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Speaker 4: In the Black community, our check is cash just thirty

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Speaker 4: so when we talk about economic development, it's got to

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Speaker 5: So to celebrate.

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Speaker 4: June tenth, I am challenging the community to open up

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Speaker 4: one thousand accounts as Citizens Trust Bank. Eighty six percent

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Speaker 4: and so on Sunday, I'm challenging our community and bringing

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Speaker 4: To your original question about Black Wall Street, it was

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Speaker 4: the brainchild of mister Bill Allen, and he told me

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Speaker 5: Black church is not interloped in the idea.

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Speaker 4: And so I came and walked alongside them, made an

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Speaker 4: got to be business owners that come out of new

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Speaker 5: My conviction, brother McDonald's.

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Speaker 4: If I have ten thousand members, why are you struggling

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Speaker 4: to sell your book? How come you don't have any clients?

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Speaker 4: Because they're right there in the church. We've got to

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, but the first one of the main

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Speaker 3: Conversation master Class is by promoting dreamers, especially in the

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Speaker 1: Now when I look at.

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Speaker 3: You, your more house grab HBCUs have been at the

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Speaker 1: How is that?

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Speaker 3: Does that make you feel good, doctor Bran or it

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Speaker 3: makes you disappoint you that there's nothing that's ever been

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Speaker 3: wrong with HBCUs. We just hadn't been recognized a given

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 4: That we in the HBC all but have understood our

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Speaker 1: Right, HBC US.

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Speaker 4: Graduate more Black doctors, more lawyers, more doctor degrees.

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Speaker 4: Institutions with minimal support and financial back ends are inspiring.

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Speaker 5: Now that we have it, the sky is the limited.

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Speaker 4: People now walk on the motor and so I think

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Speaker 4: that this is really just putting us in a greater place.

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Speaker 3: I help you all out with those status that he

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Speaker 3: at the top of my mind. Fifty percent of the

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Speaker 3: five percent of the STEM graduates come from HPCUS. North

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Speaker 3: You know, it's really interesting when I hear you talk

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Speaker 5: Cry loud and spare not you doing the dog?

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Speaker 5: This is an audio book. You are given information that

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Speaker 4: And so I'm just appreciative of how you standing on

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Speaker 6: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass

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Speaker 3: You said some great things are still I'm telling anybody

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Speaker 1: Address is available, this show is available.

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Speaker 3: They got these people are young entrepreneurs down there at

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Speaker 5: We've got to bring all the different seats to the table.

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Speaker 4: If you advanced me that two years ago. I rattled

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm some doctor's lot of pop praying for you,

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Speaker 5: That's my story in a nutshell.

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Speaker 3: Well know the beauty of that story, and I want

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Speaker 3: success by yourself. That's the number one thing you get

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Speaker 3: away from the store. And then people have to see

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Speaker 3: something in you and not give up on you. That's

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Speaker 3: also in this store.

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Speaker 1: And when when?

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Speaker 3: And so that's that started with the parents. Parents didn't

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Speaker 3: give up on him. He failed, but they didn't see failure.

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Speaker 3: And then he accepted the challenge and rolls beyond that

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Speaker 3: and everywhere he went, somebody stepped in and moved him forward. Now,

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Speaker 3: when those happened, when those moments happened, and you can

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Speaker 3: correct me, doctor Bran, and I think I'm on the

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Speaker 3: same page with you, they pushed him to the unknown.

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Speaker 3: And that's where a lot of people stop. Well, they

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Speaker 3: don't know what's happening. Fear drops in and they stop

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Speaker 3: moving forward. And that is what's hurling back our community

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Speaker 3: because we want to know what's happening, and you don't

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Speaker 3: always know what's happening when you try.

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Speaker 1: To achieve success.

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Speaker 3: A success is tied to overcome the unknown and overcoming fear.

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Speaker 1: Am I correct sir?

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Speaker 5: Oh, no, You're more than correct.

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Speaker 4: And everybody has a testimon on UH, unless Brown often says, UH,

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Speaker 4: your revenue is in your reflection. What it is that

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Speaker 4: you're able excuse me, what you're able to share, what

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Speaker 4: you're able to disclose. I'm so sorry, and what it

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Speaker 4: is that you have learned from uh? And so I'm grateful.

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Speaker 4: So I UH as a consequence of my own journey.

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Speaker 4: Like many churches, we give our scholarships, but I am

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Speaker 4: intentional to not just give scholarships to those who graduate

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Speaker 4: top of the class, but those also who.

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Speaker 5: Graduated bottom of the barrel, right, UH, that they also

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Speaker 5: need an opportunity and need a chance.

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Speaker 4: And that's beauty in the progress of HBCUs again, who

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Speaker 4: gave students who were not outstanding UH an opportunity to

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Speaker 4: thrive and shine and so young growth.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the interesting things we're about to wrap up

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Speaker 3: here is that I'm from Houston, Texas, so I've been

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Speaker 3: celebrating Juneteenth. You know, the state of takes me in

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Speaker 3: the state of Texas Holiday Forever Now is now and

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Speaker 3: now it also lands on Father's Day, okay, and black

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Speaker 3: fathers have always been pushed aside or said we don't

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Speaker 3: understand the value or we're not responsible for you're a

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Speaker 3: black man.

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Speaker 1: I'm a black man.

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Speaker 3: I know I can get I get hard when I

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Speaker 3: get upset when I hear that. And knowing that Father's

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Speaker 3: Day is coming up, what role or responsibility are you

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Speaker 3: taking upon yourself to make sure that black men are

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Speaker 3: being recognized for being strong fathers, strong parents, strong leaders

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Speaker 3: in the community moving forward.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, is that your health is your wealth.

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Speaker 4: And so on Father's Day, we are doing free prostate

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Speaker 4: cancer screenings for all of our brothers because so many

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Speaker 4: black men have been impacted by it, and the saying

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Speaker 4: is our early prevention leads to the cure and most

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Speaker 4: black men don't go to the hospital till they come

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Speaker 4: through the emergency. Absolutely, So June tenth that we're setting

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Speaker 4: up these economic portfolios for investment for our people to

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Speaker 4: be able to have some greater sense of what the

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Speaker 4: strength of their dollargue is. So in those ways we're

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Speaker 4: going to affirm as well as trying to help fathers

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Speaker 4: who want visitation who have been robbed of it to

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Speaker 4: be able to get that through our partner with the courses.

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Speaker 3: You know, as we as the pandemic, as as you

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Speaker 3: said earlier, has been a health and economic crisis, and

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Speaker 3: that's always been a blessing for the church. You know,

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Speaker 3: as one would say, I'm talking to one of the

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Speaker 3: most influential religious leaders in the country, and you, doctor Bran,

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Speaker 3: as you call someone to the altar and someone's listening

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Speaker 3: to this show, what is the final message you want

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Speaker 3: them to receive so they can walk away with a

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Speaker 3: clear understanding that they can be successful. They are walking

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Speaker 3: in blessed shoes. They just need to acknowledge it and

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Speaker 3: accept the responsibility of hard work.

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Speaker 4: That the church to not over spiritual. It is nothing

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Speaker 4: more than a recycling center. We take that which has

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Speaker 4: been discarded, that which has been thrown away, that which

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Speaker 4: has imperfections, and helped turn it into something else. The

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Speaker 4: essence of who they are remains the same, but the

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Speaker 4: shape and the spirit of it is what it is

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Speaker 4: that we change. So every Sunday I tell people you

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Speaker 4: can come as you are, just be clear, you won't

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Speaker 4: stay as you are.

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Speaker 3: My guest rose from eleventh grade dropout. Do you receive

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Speaker 3: a ged enrolled in Morehouse, first time PhD graduate of

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Speaker 3: Duke and now he is the senior pastor of Newbirth

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Speaker 3: Missionary Baptist Church. He's a leader and also an inspiration

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Speaker 3: and I'm so fortunate to have him on the show

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Speaker 3: to share these words. Know this, whenever you have something,

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Speaker 3: please come to Money Making Comforts. It's master class. I'm

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Speaker 3: a friend, advocate and a believer in what you're trying

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Speaker 3: to do to the community. Thank you for coming on

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Speaker 3: Money Coming.

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Speaker 5: I'm appreciative.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, and don't forget I'm coming back

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Speaker 4: to tell you about the future of the church once

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Speaker 4: I figure out what it is.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess well you know it be quick then

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Speaker 3: because you've got technology on your side. Okay, I appreciate you,

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Speaker 3: Doctor Brian, thank you for coming on that show.

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Speaker 6: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass

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Speaker 6: with Rushan McDonald.

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Speaker 7: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute

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Speaker 7: of Inspiration with Rushawan McDonald.

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Speaker 3: Hi, ra Sean McDonald for Money Making Conversation with your

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Speaker 3: daily Minute of Inspiration. Recent lot said down with Minister, author,

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Speaker 3: speaker and founder of the God Shift movement see Rattler.

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Speaker 3: Shane talks about embracing disruption because it allows you to

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Speaker 3: experience a shift. Shanee talks about embracing disruption because it

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Speaker 3: allows you to experience a shift.

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Speaker 1: You empowering people to do what now?

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Speaker 7: I'm empowering people to embrace disruption, collide with God's purpose,

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Speaker 7: and chase their destiny. People's lives are experiencing disappointments, but

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Speaker 7: I believe that God is using those things to get

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Speaker 7: our attention. The question is are we going to learn

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Speaker 7: what it is that He wants us to learn? And

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Speaker 7: disruption doesn't all.

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Speaker 8: Have to be negative.

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Speaker 7: I think that the negative things are what get people's

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Speaker 7: attention the most. But I believe that it's an opportunity

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Speaker 7: for us to say, Lord, where is it that you

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Speaker 7: need me next?

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Speaker 3: If we were to listen to this full interview with

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Speaker 3: Shane Ratler, it's available on Money Making Conversation dot com.

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Speaker 6: Now let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashaan McDonald.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I am your host,

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Speaker 3: Rashawn McDonald. I recognize that we all have different definitions

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Speaker 3: of success.

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Speaker 1: For you, it may be the size of your paycheck.

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Speaker 3: Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their goals and live

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Speaker 3: their very best life. It is time to stop reading

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Speaker 3: other people's success stories to start writing your own. People

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Speaker 3: always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have

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Speaker 3: a gift, leave with your gifts and knowing. Let your friends, family,

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Speaker 3: or coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams.

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Speaker 3: My next guest is Cassandra Cummings. She's a leading wealth

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Speaker 3: and investment strategist and founder.

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Speaker 1: Of the Stocks and Stilettos Society.

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Speaker 3: It's the fastest growing online community at more than one

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand women investors who are leveraging the power of

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Speaker 3: investing to achieve their wealth building goals. She's a licensed

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Speaker 3: financial advisor, investor, and speaker. Cassandra provides her knowledge and

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Speaker 3: guidance to empower others on financial literacy. People everywhere should

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Speaker 3: recognize her talents as we will at this point. Please

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Speaker 3: welcome the Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Cassandra Commons.

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Speaker 8: Thanks so much for having me. Thanks for having me well.

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Speaker 3: First of all, thank you on the West Coast. You're

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Speaker 3: based in Oakland, California.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I'm here right across from San Francisco and go.

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Speaker 3: Warriors shoot there in the playoffs. Thanks is a good thing,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think the Warriors are keeping you in Oakland, California,

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Speaker 3: or in California. Why Oakland California, Uh, well you were well,

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Speaker 3: you were just like using social media, using the internet

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Speaker 3: to build your brand. But while Oakland, California, why are you?

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Speaker 1: Why are you there?

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm here because this is home for me and

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Speaker 9: there's no place like home.

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Speaker 8: So you know, I came back because there's a certain

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Speaker 8: type of energy, there's a.

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Speaker 9: Certain type of grit that I learned while being here,

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Speaker 9: and I felt like I needed that energy once again

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Speaker 9: in my life. So I circle back after making a

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Speaker 9: few pit stops, and I'm back home now.

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Speaker 1: Those pitch stops.

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Speaker 3: I always tell people like I've lived in New York,

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Speaker 3: I've lived in Chicago, I mean really lived, I mean years,

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Speaker 3: lived in Los Angeles the longest fifteen years, and presently

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Speaker 3: I've been in Atlanta since two thousand and seven, so

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Speaker 3: it's about fifteen years here.

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Speaker 1: But I'm originally from Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 3: Each stop, maybe a better person maybe understand that different

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Speaker 3: people in different parts of this country think differently, have

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Speaker 3: a different set of culture rules and also have different

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Speaker 3: dreams and your travels and the places that you said

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Speaker 3: you had these pitch stops. How did they impact you

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Speaker 3: and made you the person that you are today.

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Speaker 8: Well, I had a couple of pit stops.

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Speaker 9: I too, lived in la for quite a long time.

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Speaker 9: I think it was about ten years. I finished school

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Speaker 9: down there at USC, and then from USC, I wasn't

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Speaker 9: quite ready to go home yet, and so I ventured

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Speaker 9: out to Houston, Texas. I actually was pursuing a career

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Speaker 9: as a broadcast journalist, and so I had some opportunities

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Speaker 9: to go out there and really work on the craft

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Speaker 9: of becoming a news reporter and had dreams of becoming

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Speaker 9: a news anchor. And then I had to grow up.

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Speaker 9: I had to actually go back to what I knew best,

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Speaker 9: and that was, you know, the money industry, and ended

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Speaker 9: up coming back to the West Coast, where I started

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Speaker 9: my career in financial services with AIG.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I don't really use the word grow up,

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Speaker 3: you know, because a lot of people if that gets

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Speaker 3: a lot of people out there and mature. I think

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Speaker 3: that the realization of what your true gifts are you challenge,

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Speaker 3: That's what I talk about your gifts are your purpose,

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Speaker 3: you know, lead with it, you know, and that's what

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Speaker 3: you're doing now. You're leading with your true gifts just

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Speaker 3: because you want to do something like I wanted to

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Speaker 3: play basketball, but I just knew that that wasn't my gift,

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Speaker 3: nor was.

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Speaker 1: That my purpose.

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Speaker 3: And so what you just realized is that this is

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Speaker 3: my true gift, take advantage of it. I remember I

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Speaker 3: would tell you, I wrote them. I was living there

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Speaker 3: in La octob in nineteen ninety one and I had

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Speaker 3: a I said, God, if you allowed me to maximize

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Speaker 3: all of my talents, and I will follow the talent

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Speaker 3: that will lead me to my where I was supposed

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Speaker 3: to go. Because we all if when we were young,

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Speaker 3: we have so many visions of grandeur about what we

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Speaker 3: can do, but.

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Speaker 1: No goal or tied it's tied to it.

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Speaker 3: That's what I felt that you're back in the financial

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Speaker 3: world because you put goals to it, and the goals

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Speaker 3: come expectations, and when you reach your expectation, you start

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Speaker 3: reaping results. Where As I was one time in the

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Speaker 3: entertainment business, I was a very successful stand up comic.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't I couldn't become go ording with that

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Speaker 3: you're going for audition, then they tell you, some people

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Speaker 3: say they like it, then they don't call you back,

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Speaker 3: they call you back, then somebody else gets it. So

664
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 3: I can't goals to that. I'm just a logical thinking person.

665
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: So I just think you're just a logical thinking person.

666
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: Am I correct to Cassandra?

667
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 9: Absolutely? But you know, make no mistake about it. I've

668
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 9: definitely endured a lot of rejection that was really filled

669
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 9: in the news broadcasting world, got a lot of nose

670
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 9: and out a lot of demo tapes, and I would

671
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 9: you have to say that's been the case. Even in

672
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 9: financial services. You have a lot of clients that don't

673
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 9: necessarily establish rapport with you, they don't necessarily want to

674
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 9: work with you. That's, you know, a sobtle form of

675
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 9: rejection as well.

676
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 8: And I mean, I too have fire clients.

677
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 9: Because it just wasn't a good personality fit, or you know,

678
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 9: they were looking for something that I may not.

679
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 8: Been able to successfully deliver on.

680
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 9: So I mean, I think it's just an everyday part

681
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 9: of life dealing with those nos and those nose.

682
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 8: They make you pivot, so you end up having to

683
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 8: change course.

684
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 9: And that's okay because sometimes when one door closes, right

685
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 9: as they say, another door opens, and sometimes it could

686
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 9: be the grand prize in that new door.

687
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, And I think that a lot

688
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: of people don't realize that, you know, they feel they

689
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: allow themselves to be blindsided by what.

690
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: Their own goals, and their goals might not be the

691
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: right goals for them.

692
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: I know that, and that's why I wanted to bring

693
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: you on the show, because just looking at your body

694
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: of work, it has it has tied to journeys, It

695
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 3: is tied to decision making, and oftentimes when you are

696
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: and I to say that, when you are an attractive woman,

697
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: then a lot of people will not give you the

698
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: credit do credit because of your attractiveness.

699
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 1: Am I wrong in making those statements like that.

700
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 8: Absolutely?

701
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 9: I've always sort of played my beauty down a little

702
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 9: bit for the most part, and I would say in

703
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 9: recent years, I tell myself, I'm not playing small.

704
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 8: This is who I am.

705
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 9: Right, It just so happens that I have the brains

706
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 9: that comes with a pretty face, right, and I need

707
00:36:59,400 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 9: to eat.

708
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 8: He used that as an asset.

709
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: You aren't trying to l yourself up, well, you know, I.

710
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 9: Just you know, just learned how to put on some eyelash,

711
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 9: some mid blows.

712
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 8: But you know, before then.

713
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 9: You know, it was just really like, you know, this

714
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 9: is who I am, and coming from Oakland, you know,

715
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 9: we don't do a lot of beautification here.

716
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 8: I would say, you know, we grew up.

717
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 9: Wasn't a lot of you know, provocative clothing and things

718
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 9: like that. We were really from the town and we

719
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 9: had a different way of maneuvering here that didn't really

720
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 9: require you to flex your beauty. You really had to

721
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 9: show and prove in different ways and not leave with

722
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 9: your face.

723
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 8: So I learned that.

724
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 9: But as I started to make those pit stops, I

725
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 9: saw really how advantageous you know, pretty has privileges that

726
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 9: I really needed to use that.

727
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 8: To my advantage.

728
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know, look at me, I got my suit on.

729
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You'll say, I'm talking to

730
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 3: look at pretty as I can, so you talk to

731
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: the right person.

732
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 8: You looking AD think.

733
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: I like that.

734
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: I like that because you know, as we go through life,

735
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 3: you know you have to like put all of your

736
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: all your bullet in the gun. You know what I'm saying,

737
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 3: It's just start shooting, and you want to make sure

738
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: you're shooting.

739
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: Your best shot and so and so.

740
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: That's but the one thing that we know that that

741
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 3: you lead with is your intellect.

742
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: You leave with your brand.

743
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: You lead with the fact that you have you can

744
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: provide a strategy of financial goals that can change people's lives.

745
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: Tell me a little bit of how you came to

746
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: be a wealth and investment strategist.

747
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 8: It was really from my college mentor.

748
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 9: Her name is Angela, and I mean, this woman is

749
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 9: was a powerhouse, and you know, I wanted to emulate

750
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 9: her and I saw her moving and shaken. She was

751
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 9: a bond trader here at the Pacific Stock Exchange. She

752
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 9: worked in finance, and I was like, I want to

753
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 9: be like her when I grow up because I came from,

754
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 9: you know, very humble beginnings for on welfare and I

755
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 9: had an opportunity to now have a mentor have someone

756
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 9: that could, you know, get my foot in.

757
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 8: The door and really show me the ropes.

758
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 9: And so that was really my introduction to financial services.

759
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 8: It was my introduction to.

760
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 9: Really putting myself out there to help others. She is

761
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 9: so generous with her time, with her knowledge, and that's

762
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 9: something that I just wanted to emulate. And it just

763
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 9: really became a part of who I.

764
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: Am now now and you say who you are?

765
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: So now you're a mentor, Yes, now you're a leader

766
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: now where a responsibility comes with that?

767
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 9: Yes, tons, I mean I never imagine the impact that

768
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 9: I would have, Like I saw the impact she had,

769
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 9: but I think I have definitely ten and I definitely didn't.

770
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: She had that impact on you before you know, social

771
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 3: media got out there, you know, before the Internet became

772
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: the craze. So you know, she she's a lot more intimate,

773
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 3: a lot more personal. Well, now you know, you post

774
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 3: up on LinkedIn, you post up on social media. People

775
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 3: d M you and all these things and whether you

776
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: will respond to them or not, sometimes you don't want to.

777
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to something.

778
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: You ask people to follow you, to build your brand

779
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: and your relationship all of that. That's the world you

780
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: live into. Now you're the founder of the Stocks and

781
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: Stileto Society.

782
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: What exactly is that?

783
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 9: So it's an online community of women investors, and I

784
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 9: mean we've got women in there who are at the

785
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 9: very beginning of their investing journey, haven't even bought their

786
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 9: first stock. We've got women who are in there with

787
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 9: you know, multimillion dollar portfolios. So there are black women

788
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 9: in there that run the gamut, and we really wanted

789
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 9: to create this space where women could really feel comfortable

790
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 9: about talking about money, whether it be questions like you know,

791
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 9: how do you even buy a stop to you know,

792
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 9: I need to do tax loss harvesting. And so we

793
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 9: wanted to create that space where women who were well

794
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 9: seasoned and investing could also help and embrace the ones

795
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 9: who were coming up in this investing game.

796
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 8: And I think this community.

797
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 9: Has done a great job of making sure that we

798
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 9: leave no system behind.

799
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 3: Now, would you say one hundred women investors? Is that

800
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 3: a is that a newsletter? Is there a Facebook club?

801
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: Where are these? Where are these?

802
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: One hundred thousand women apologizes?

803
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 9: So we have currently we have about ninety six thousand

804
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 9: in a Facebook group.

805
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: Well that's possible, possible.

806
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, And then we have about eighteen thousand on

807
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 9: our Facebook page, and we have about forty thousand on Instagram,

808
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 9: and so collectively, when we look across all of our

809
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 9: social media of platforms in our emails.

810
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: It's some huge numbers.

811
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 3: Now I'm just let you know that you know this

812
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 3: is this is this is ninety six thousand.

813
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: In your Facebook group?

814
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 3: Which is you know, if you watch Facebook, there weren't

815
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: a lot of commercials encouraging people to join groups, you know,

816
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: and then you also on your Facebook page you have

817
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 3: eighteen thousand, and then on Instagram you got another forty thousand.

818
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 8: Yeah.

819
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: Now, do y'all do retreats?

820
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 5: We do.

821
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 8: We well.

822
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 9: We do a signature event called the Stocks to Staring

823
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 9: in Vegas every year October sixth through the eighth, or

824
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 9: the first weekend in October. And it is a party

825
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 9: unlike any other. I mean, I've never seen a group

826
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 9: of women come together around the idea of investing and

827
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 9: have so much fun. And we learn from some of

828
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 9: the top people in the industry. So it's spoke as

829
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 9: you know, I call it eduitainment. We come out, we

830
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 9: have a good time, we learn how to grow our money,

831
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 9: and then we get to business.

832
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 8: We get down to business after we leave there.

833
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: Okay, now October sixth through the ey Okay, in our

834
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: talk in Vegas?

835
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: What hotel y'all were at?

836
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 8: The Arian.

837
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: Ario got one of the best buffets in Vegas. I'm

838
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: above fece.

839
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: I love buff Faiths, I love buff faith Ario Hotel

840
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: got one of the best buffets.

841
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean you going there. They got it all up

842
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: and there already.

843
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: Now, I just wanted to test see they were Cassandra Commerce.

844
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: You know, I'm testing her.

845
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 5: You know.

846
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: You know people come on this show, you know they

847
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: throw our numbers all the time and actly you know.

848
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: Well, you know I'm trying.

849
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: I'm trying. But she has just she has just set

850
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: me back. You know where were shoying six thousand. You

851
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: can round up if you want to. You you you

852
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 3: got you know, mad that's her dot. That's either way.

853
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 3: You see the above point five you round up anyway.

854
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: That's that's okay.

855
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 8: Now Now that.

856
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: If you really if you really think I'm fronting eighteen

857
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: thousand sitting over there, okay, if you really think I'm

858
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: fronting forty thousand sitting over there, now, if you really

859
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: think I'm front Vegas, you know as a multi day event,

860
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: you know October sixth through the Egg.

861
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: You know at the Aria. You know we're not off

862
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: no beaten track. We the Aria. You know where you

863
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: going there.

864
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 3: Everything's controlling that hotel room by the phone, the phone

865
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: controlled everything. Turn turn the lights, bever room lights, open

866
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: the front door, back door, back of.

867
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: The lord, and shade everything in the aria. I know

868
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: exactly where you're at.

869
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 8: Whoa we on the strip? On the strip?

870
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: I love it? So how long have you had this?

871
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 3: The stocks that Stiletto Society been around? And when did

872
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: it start?

873
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 9: Well, we've been around since two thousand and sixteen, so

874
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 9: six years.

875
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 8: And it started after I left Marie Lynch.

876
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 9: I was talking with a friend and I was dropping

877
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 9: names again.

878
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: She dropped her name again, She dropped the game again.

879
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: Just see, I just love talking. She just drops his name.

880
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: I left Mary Lynch, you know, just left them. I

881
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: had something to do to Oakland girl here. I just

882
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: started wearing lift gloss in Eyelands a couple of weeks ago.

883
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: You know, I've been winning naturally. I've been winning naturally.

884
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 5: So so I'm.

885
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 8: Making money over here.

886
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely so so Merrill Lynch.

887
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Speaker 3: And the reason I reason I bring that up because

888
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Speaker 3: of the fact that in order to get respect, you

889
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: have to be with respectable brands. And when you with

890
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 3: respectable brands and you made the decision to lead.

891
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: That respectable you have to have a goal.

892
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: Now that goal might not happen immediately, but you know that, Okay,

893
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: what they're doing doesn't fulfill me.

894
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Speaker 1: And it's a lot of people watch my.

895
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Speaker 3: Show, listen to my shown at trapped in jobs because

896
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 3: they're afraid to change, They're afraid of the unknown. I'm

897
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: pretty sure there was some fear tied to this. How

898
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Speaker 3: did you overcome that fear of the unknown?

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Speaker 9: Cassentdra You know, I would have to say it had

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Speaker 9: to be my cir circle, you know.

901
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 8: It was my circle that was rooting for me. They

902
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 8: were my cheerleaders.

903
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 9: They were like, you got this, cis, You're gonna do this.

904
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Speaker 8: And I had a very difficult time.

905
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Speaker 9: Really finding my lane afterwards because I had been trained

906
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Speaker 9: to do things a.

907
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 8: Certain way, and so I had to.

908
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 9: Unlearn those things and reprogram myself to really go out

909
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 9: here and serve in a different capacity. And so it

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Speaker 9: took me about a year to kind of catch my footing.

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00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 9: But I did have a conversation with one friend and

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Speaker 9: she was like, you need to start a Facebook group,

913
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Speaker 9: and I'm like, what is that, you know, because we

914
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Speaker 9: couldn't really be on social media like that with the firm.

915
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 9: And once I opened up the Facebook group, I had

916
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Speaker 9: about fifty people, and before I knew it, I had

917
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Speaker 9: like five thousand people and it just took off from there.

918
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Speaker 3: That is awesome. That is awesome. Now let's go back

919
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: to the Las Vegas event. Yeah, what what prompted that

920
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: type of retreat? And you know we talked, we really

921
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: didn't go Can you break down what happens on each

922
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 3: day or they're like seminars and speakers because I.

923
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Know there's entertainment. You in Vegas, there's entertainment.

924
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: What what is the what is to take away from

925
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: that type of event from a standpoint of edumacation.

926
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Speaker 9: Yeah, so we make sure you get extrumunicated. Sure in

927
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 9: different rounds of investing. So day one is our VIP day.

928
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 8: They come out and they actually have two master classes.

929
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Speaker 9: So we have two amazing speakers come out and they

930
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 9: both teach our VIP ladies something that's.

931
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Speaker 8: Going to help propel them right.

932
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Speaker 9: And then when we get today too, which is the

933
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Speaker 9: general sessions, we basically have morning breakout sessions and that's

934
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Speaker 9: going to be either between options or day trading.

935
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Speaker 8: And then we have.

936
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Speaker 9: Afternoon breakout sessions and that's going to be really centered

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Speaker 9: around let me remember, I can't remember off the top

938
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Speaker 9: of my head, but we have to probably like crypto

939
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Speaker 9: and something else right side hustles. So crypto inside hustles.

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Speaker 9: So morning we do options in day trading. In the

941
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Speaker 9: afternoon we do crypto and.

942
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Speaker 8: Side hustles. Then on the third day.

943
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Speaker 9: Is when we have our panels, So we have a

944
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Speaker 9: real estate panel, we have an angel investing panel, we

945
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Speaker 9: have an entrepreneurship panel. This year, we talk about a

946
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Speaker 9: lot of things that help women take have some takeaways that.

947
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 8: They can actually go and act on right away.

948
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 9: So we give them actionable gems and it's not a

949
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 9: bunch of fluff, you know.

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Speaker 8: I'm really big on, you know, getting away from the

951
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 8: raw rah rah.

952
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Speaker 5: And stuff like.

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Speaker 9: I want people to have things that they can go

954
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Speaker 9: and put in the place when they leave this event.

955
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Speaker 6: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations master

956
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 6: Class with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return to Money Making

957
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Speaker 6: Conversations Masterclass with Rashaan McDonald.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something, you know, because I'm really

959
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: impressed with you, and not saying that it wasn't impressed

960
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: with you before you came on the show, but you

961
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: have a certain style. I think it's very very comfortable.

962
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 3: I think that's important, especially dealing with your money. People money,

963
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: you want to be comfortable on somebody you give your

964
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 3: money too, won't be nervous about handing your money across

965
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 3: the table with anybody. Now Bitcoin and crypto current, Lord

966
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: knows the Black community keeps getting left behind because we

967
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: don't know, we don't trust you know, Lord, you know,

968
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: we just took our money out of the mattress, you.

969
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: Know, thirty years ago.

970
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 3: Okay, and we're still in Black community dealing with these

971
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 3: check cash in places and don't know anything about apps,

972
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: don't even know anything about zel anything.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is true talk.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I want to I want to turn into a

975
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Speaker 3: couple of a couple of things into little snippets for you.

976
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Speaker 1: Can you talk to the black community about.

977
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: Why they should be involved with the bitcoin and then

978
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 3: separately talk to them about cryptocurrency.

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Speaker 9: Well, bitcoin is definitely the granddaddy of cryptocurrency. It's been around,

980
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 9: I believe about twenty years now. It's been around for

981
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 9: a long time, twelve maybe twelve years, and so you know,

982
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 9: like I say, with bitcoin, it takes time to get

983
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 9: to a certain level of you know, investment success with anything, right,

984
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 9: you've got to have sort of like this long term view,

985
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 9: even with crypto. So bitcoin has definitely gotten a lot

986
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 9: of buzz, a lot of media attention and things like that,

987
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 9: because it has definitely come into its time, right, it's

988
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 9: forty something that now if you want to buy a bitcoin,

989
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 9: you can still buy bitcoin.

990
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 8: You don't have to buy a full point.

991
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 9: So if you want to put one thousand dollars on bitcoin,

992
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 9: five hundred dollars on bigcoin, you can and you can

993
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 9: still you know, make money off of that. There are

994
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 9: tons of art coins we call those alt coins, and

995
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 9: so those are your adulge coins, your Siba coins and

996
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 9: things like that that you can get into that are

997
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 9: really really inexpensive, and so you can put in five

998
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 9: hundred dollars and walk away with like, you know.

999
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 8: Five hundred thousand shares of a coin.

1000
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 9: By investing in some of these art coins that may

1001
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 9: have the potential to rise and increase as much as Bitcoin.

1002
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 8: So that's really what the game is now.

1003
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 9: People are looking for the next Bitcoin in crypto currency.

1004
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 9: The other thing too, that's really big in crypto right

1005
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 9: now is really investing in coins that are tied to

1006
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 9: the metaverse.

1007
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 8: I was just talking to someone this.

1008
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 9: Morning about, you know, coins that are heavily involved in

1009
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 9: digital real estate in the metaverse, and so a lot

1010
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 9: of people are starting to allocate money and it could

1011
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 9: be a small amount to some of these coins like

1012
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 9: Gala and decentral Land and things like that that are

1013
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 9: heavily connected with the metaverse and digital real estate. So

1014
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 9: there are really good opportunities, especially for black people, to

1015
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 9: get in with very little money and you know, very

1016
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 9: little risk with crypto.

1017
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 3: So you know what that right, digital metaverse, none of

1018
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: that's real, It's not really you.

1019
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 8: Know, black people thought stock market wasn't really at one point.

1020
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 3: Well, I know where I be at, I know where

1021
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 3: the whole depot I go.

1022
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: I can lose some money the home depot, get mad

1023
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: at home depot. Digital real estate.

1024
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 5: Huh huh.

1025
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 3: And that's the part that we have to cross that

1026
00:52:55,040 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: line over understanding the reality of in fts. You know,

1027
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: the college athletes learning about Nils, all these things. We're

1028
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 3: fast moving into a society where education really may never

1029
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 3: catch up with us. So it means that the ability

1030
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 3: to be a participant may never be an opportunity. And

1031
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 3: so bringing you on my show at least helps us

1032
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: understand that there are people like us. There's a community

1033
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 3: of women out there who don't want to be average

1034
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: who don't want to be left in the back, who

1035
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: want to be able to say, how can I be

1036
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 3: a party of this? Now, you have a little program

1037
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 3: called Build a Bag of Wealth. I think that's the

1038
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 3: best way to close up with you in this interview.

1039
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 3: But also I would show I do my show live

1040
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 3: on Tuesdays on WCLK Campus. I take phone calls. I

1041
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: love to invite you on my live show. It also

1042
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: plays back on my national platform. But you are so engaging.

1043
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: And whenever I bring an investor on somebody talking about stock.

1044
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: The phones light up. And that's what I know. These

1045
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: black folks want to know how to make some money.

1046
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 1: I mean I could bring on celebrities, no calls.

1047
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 3: I bring on somebody talking about stock, home they find

1048
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 3: their way to that phone.

1049
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: So I know there's education that they want, but.

1050
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: The opportunity to participate, they'll be left out on to

1051
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: talk about your Build a Bag of Wealth.

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00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, so Build a Bag is a program that I

1053
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 9: came up with to teach women and man.

1054
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 8: It's actually open to everyone how to trade options.

1055
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 9: And options are contracts to buy stocks. You're not obligated

1056
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 9: to buy them, but oftentimes you know, we don't have

1057
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 9: a lot of money to get into the stock market

1058
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 9: to buy the Amazons, to buy the Googles, because they're

1059
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 9: just really priced, you know, extremely high. But if you

1060
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 9: learn how to trade contracts, you can still make money

1061
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 9: off of Amazon or IBM or home Depot, what have you,

1062
00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 9: with very little money.

1063
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 8: So we have design this program called build a Bag

1064
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 8: where we show people how to go from five hundred

1065
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 8: dollars to five thousand dollars and typically about a month

1066
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 8: and a half to two months.

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00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: See see see see see I about talking about staff,

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00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 3: So we should have started out with that conversation five hundred.

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00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: Dollars to five thousand dollars.

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00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: You know, some we're gonna book you on my show,

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00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: My money Making Money Master Clap. I'm firing some people

1072
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: off the show to bring you own this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, they need to show.

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00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 8: How to trade options.

1075
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: They need to hear it.

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00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna start off with the five hundred dollars

1077
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 3: to five thousand dollars in a month. We don't start

1078
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: that conversation immediately, but you've been fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: I'm glad you contacted me. I'm glad we contacted you.

1081
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 3: It was it was a synergy. My people were reaching

1082
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 3: out to you and you naturally reaching out to me.

1083
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 3: Know that you'll be hearing from me again. I want

1084
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: to bring you on my live show. It's just like this,

1085
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 3: a very fun The NBR Arizon, the lot of twenty

1086
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Speaker 3: HBCU campus is seventy one stations nationwide with the number

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Speaker 3: one wee can show on Black radio in America. But

1088
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: more importantly, you are number one in my financial heart.

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00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: Now, okay, we're gonna we're gonna win together here.

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Speaker 3: Girl, five hundred dollars, five thousand dollars a month.

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00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: We gotta talking.

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Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you for coming to Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass. Thank you. If you want to see.

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Speaker 3: Or hear into my interviews, please go to money Making

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Speaker 3: Conversation dot com.

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Speaker 1: I am Rashaan McDonald. I am your host.

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Speaker 6: You've been listening to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 6: With Rashaan McDonald.

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Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversation with your

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Speaker 3: daily minuting of inspiration. This week I sat down with

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Speaker 3: the founder and CEO of Stackwell Capital, Inc.

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Speaker 5: Who Ever Roseer Bird.

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Speaker 3: He talks about how his fintech company helps take away

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Speaker 3: the stress of investing.

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Speaker 10: You know, I think a lot of times when you

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Speaker 10: talk about this notion of investing within our community, there's

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Speaker 10: a lot of barriers to entry. Many of these things

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Speaker 10: could not be further from the truth. What we're really

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Speaker 10: trying to create at Stockwell is a community that is

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Speaker 10: rooted in a sense and notion of the list of

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Speaker 10: achievements that is about empowering one another to leverage the

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Speaker 10: market as an extremely powerful tool to help people grow

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Speaker 10: in a mass wealth over time so that they can

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Speaker 10: secure the financial freedoms and social freedoms that we all

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Speaker 10: see for ourselves for our families.

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Speaker 3: If you want to listen to, this full interview with

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Speaker 3: Trevor Rosea Bird is available on money Making Conversations dot com.

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Speaker 3: You can listen to more great money Making Conversation Masterclass

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Speaker 3: interviews on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, or Audible