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Speaker 2: The great Bear Girls let us welcome. I would clap,

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Speaker 1: A nice to see. This doesn't feel like work, that's nice.

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Speaker 2: Because we stay out, people think that there's no hotel,

436
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Speaker 2: there's no there's no you hop in a car, you

437
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Speaker 2: stay out there. It's as real as could possibly be.

438
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Speaker 1: People still don't realize, you know, I still get guests

439
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Speaker 1: coming on the show and they go shoot. It really

440
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Speaker 1: is like there is no craft. Yes, we really are

441
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Speaker 1: sleeping in this game.

442
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Speaker 2: We stayed out, but I really found like the fellowship

443
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Speaker 2: of you know, we built a little fire, we sat around,

444
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: we cooked, we talked, you know, we got ready for

445
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Speaker 2: the next day. Like I felt like that to me

446
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 2: was as valuable as as like the physical things that

447
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Speaker 2: we were able to accomplish.

448
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's so true, and I hear that often.

449
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Speaker 1: And you know, there's no shortcut there. You know, if

450
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Speaker 1: you just did that at the beginning you sat around.

451
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Speaker 1: You know, anyone can sit around the fire in the garden.

452
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Speaker 3: It's going to be.

453
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Speaker 1: And you've got to kind of go through a little

454
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Speaker 1: bit first. You've got to look each other in the

455
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Speaker 1: whites of the eyes and need each other and hold

456
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Speaker 1: on to each other as acrossing that river, and laugh

457
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Speaker 1: at each other and fail a lot and keep going.

458
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Speaker 1: And then you create bonds. I mean that says, you know,

459
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Speaker 1: the magic of the outdoors, It creates bonds like no others.

460
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Speaker 3: Why on the big expeditions.

461
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Speaker 1: Of mine over the years that those bonds become really deep.

462
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Speaker 1: You live in a tenth for three months with someone

463
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Speaker 1: on everest, you really know them heart and soul. But

464
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Speaker 1: I love the connection on running wild like that and

465
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Speaker 1: often you know the stars and people like you. They

466
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Speaker 1: say that at the at that campsite, even though the

467
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Speaker 1: cameras kind of have gone and the cameras team they

468
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Speaker 1: go back to base, they get flown out and it

469
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Speaker 1: just leaves you me and we have a little mini

470
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Speaker 1: camera we might use. But I think it's one of

471
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Speaker 1: the special parts because then you can sort of relax

472
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Speaker 1: and just you talk about so much and you know,

473
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Speaker 1: I mean, that'd be a whole another show talking about

474
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Speaker 1: some of the non PC conversations.

475
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Speaker 3: But I like it because it's a real.

476
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Speaker 1: You know, by those stage, you know each other and

477
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: the gloves are off and everyone's.

478
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Speaker 3: Going, oh my god, had a nightmare with this person.

479
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Speaker 3: But it's good fun.

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Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

481
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Speaker 5: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 2: You talk about summoning Everest. I was reading a story

483
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Speaker 2: the other day. I was looking at pictures out when

484
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Speaker 2: you get to the top. I don't know if this

485
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Speaker 2: was the case with you. There's a line because there

486
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Speaker 2: are people trying to do it. When you got to

487
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Speaker 2: the top of Everest, was there a line?

488
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Speaker 3: Well?

489
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Speaker 1: No, we were there in nineteen tinety eight, you know,

490
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Speaker 1: so it was like nobody. It's such tiny numbers were

491
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Speaker 1: climbing it then, and you know, we had no we

492
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Speaker 1: were the only two.

493
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Speaker 3: We were the first two that reached the top that year.

494
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Speaker 1: We had four climbers lose their lives on this first

495
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Speaker 1: attempt that went up, and then everyone else on the

496
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Speaker 1: mountain who's sort of just by and then ended up

497
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Speaker 1: coming off, and we everyone was dealing with these these

498
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Speaker 1: fatalities and the disasters and then we hung on and

499
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Speaker 1: they and the jet stream winds lifted and a few

500
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Speaker 1: of us just went on and got lucky. You know,

501
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Speaker 1: So in the year we were, those those years, it

502
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Speaker 1: was so different. But you know, I know, I know

503
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Speaker 1: those photos you're talking about, I've seen that in the

504
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Speaker 1: press lots of the last few years of you know,

505
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Speaker 1: it is a bottleneck, though I kind of think sometimes

506
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Speaker 1: it still gives a slightly kind of skewed view of

507
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Speaker 1: it because you might have you might have one hundred

508
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Speaker 1: and fifty.

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Speaker 3: Climbers or whatever on it, and they're there for however many.

510
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Speaker 1: Weeks, you know, six seven weeks, and at the end

511
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Speaker 1: they get they're all you know, there's only one one ridge.

512
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Speaker 1: That's not like there are a hundred ridges. You can

513
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Speaker 1: each have your own ridge, you know. That's that gets

514
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Speaker 1: that mountain. That's the nature of a mountain, and it

515
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Speaker 1: gets smaller, so you do something. I see those photos,

516
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Speaker 1: But I still think it's a big, old dangerous mountains

517
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Speaker 1: still kills.

518
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Speaker 3: A lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it was killing one and six

520
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Speaker 1: when I was there, and it's probably now maybe one

521
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Speaker 1: in fifteen or something now. But you know, you can't

522
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: take that amount of granted, forecasting gets better, you know,

523
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: gear gets better, but it's still a little while that's

524
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Speaker 1: unpredictable and people die still every year on that mountain.

525
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Speaker 2: Did you do an episode with Alex hanald Am I am, I.

526
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we did, yeah, a couple of seasons ago.

527
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Speaker 1: It was really fun. We did it in near where

528
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Speaker 1: we live in Switzerland, and he was great. You know,

529
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Speaker 1: it's the only guess I've ever had where like, you know,

530
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Speaker 1: when we reach a rock face, he was like, he's

531
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Speaker 1: here's the rope, you go, you lead it off.

532
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Speaker 3: Followed and be gentle.

533
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Speaker 1: But what a great guy and such as wonderful heart

534
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: and a great story and uh and yeah, although he

535
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: was kind of very out of his comfort zone at

536
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: times as well, because I think you forget with sort

537
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Speaker 1: of experts like that even in the outdoors you become

538
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Speaker 1: a real expert in big wool climbing.

539
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Speaker 3: But you know, like we skyd, I've in at the beginning.

540
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Speaker 1: With him and he was like super nervous, ahasutly sort

541
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Speaker 1: of shaking in the back of the plane. And I

542
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: loved him all the more for that, because it's like

543
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Speaker 1: you're you're you're the bravest man I know, Alex, I'm

544
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: so I'm so happy to see that some things also

545
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: get you nervous, and it's a reminder of life that

546
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Speaker 1: whoever you are, even someone like him, like, we all

547
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: feel fear, you know, but the champions somehow find a

548
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Speaker 1: way to keep facing it, keep doing it, and find

549
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Speaker 1: a way through it.

550
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Speaker 3: And I love that.

551
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Speaker 2: Was that a pre production meeting of going We really

552
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Speaker 2: got to elevate for this guy because it seems like

553
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Speaker 2: he has no fear.

554
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Speaker 3: A little bit.

555
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, the wild kind

556
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Speaker 1: of does my job for me. You know, it's not

557
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: all you don't have to take everyone to the edge.

558
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's a journey. You're getting to

559
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Speaker 1: know someone's story. And but I always knew that I

560
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Speaker 1: definitely we'd find a really good rock face. I'd seen

561
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Speaker 1: from the from the air when we were scouting this route,

562
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Speaker 1: and I kind of thought that would be really great

563
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Speaker 1: to try and do. And it looks on the edge

564
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Speaker 1: of what I can do. And he'll scamper up this thing.

565
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Speaker 1: So I gave him the rope and I said, you lead,

566
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Speaker 1: but be gentle that you know, and he starts up

567
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: and the first bit was a little bit overhanging, so

568
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Speaker 1: like first ten feet and then it sort of, you know,

569
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: flattened out a little bit, so I couldn't actually see

570
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: him after the first ten feet, and the rope just

571
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: wasn't moving very far. After about five minutes, I kind

572
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: of shouted up. He must have been like thirty twenty

573
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Speaker 1: thirty feet up, and I said, are you all right?

574
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Speaker 3: Are you getting it?

575
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: Is everything all right? And I just hear him shout down.

576
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, this bit is a little tricky. I'm

577
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. This bit's tricky, but hold on, give

578
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Speaker 1: me a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, oh my god, I'm dead, you know.

580
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: But he got to the top, he set that anchor,

581
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: you know, and I started come up. But there were

582
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Speaker 1: definitely a few times I was going, Alex's gonna need

583
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Speaker 1: a tight line on this one, you know.

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Speaker 2: Can you great guy?

585
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

586
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Speaker 2: Are you able to get life insurance?

587
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: What's funny you asked that? I was Actually somebody somebody

588
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: came up the airport today. We're literally just flown into

589
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: the next place where we're filming, and somebody at the

590
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: airport said, I.

591
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Speaker 3: Deal with life insurance for a big company.

592
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Speaker 1: It's my god, how are you with your life insurance

593
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: and Delvis with going To be honest, there's a nightmare

594
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: the most expensive things on our production. And the problem

595
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: is you become a victim of the show's you know, profile,

596
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: Any success like really counts against us because suddenly is

597
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Speaker 1: it like, hold on, I've seen that show. We're not

598
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: ensuring this, but we have got it. I think it's

599
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: I think it's okay. I mean, I try not to.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I try not to think about that stuff.

601
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: I've got a good team to worry about, the life insurance.

602
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: I keep focused on the important stuff, which is people

603
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Speaker 1: like you.

604
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Speaker 2: Your team is great and they make at least me

605
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: and my wife feel extremely safe. But they move around

606
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: really well, and they move around and terrain really well.

607
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Speaker 2: Where I've worked on a bunch of television shows, most

608
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Speaker 2: camera guys aren't able to move like that. How how

609
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Speaker 2: do you find your crews?

610
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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, they are the unsung hero in

611
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Speaker 1: this whole journey.

612
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Speaker 3: They are. They're incredible.

613
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Speaker 1: They've been with me from the beginning, which, actually, as

614
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Speaker 1: you know, in the world of TV.

615
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Speaker 3: Is pretty rare.

616
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Speaker 1: You know, most of the time camera CRUs and TV

617
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Speaker 1: crews super transient.

618
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: They change, but we've had the same.

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Speaker 1: Guys basically from day one, and it's one of the

620
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Speaker 1: things I'm most proud about those friendships. We've done life

621
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Speaker 1: together and it's it's, like I said, it's one of

622
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: the big motivations actually for me still still working. I

623
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Speaker 1: love those guys. They do everything we do for the

624
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Speaker 1: just sort of viewers aware. They do everything we do,

625
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: but backwards because they're filming it like moving backwards, powering

626
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: the heavy cameras, heavy backpacks, you know, one of things.

627
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: The cameras have got lighter over the years.

628
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Speaker 1: I've actually got heavier, which I still can't quite get

629
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: my head around. But now because the lenses are so good,

630
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: they're huge, they actually have to put weights on the

631
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: back to counteract the lenses. I mean, these guys are

632
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: incredible and as you say, they move beautifully, and I

633
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: think moving well in the mountain on a difficult terrain

634
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: and awkward rock and slippery rock, you know, is a

635
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: real art. And I really noticed it on Running Wild,

636
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, first straight off the bat, when when the

637
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: guest starts moving, I can instantly tell, you know, I

638
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: can tell very quickly if they've done much of this

639
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: sort of thing, and it really reminds me of how

640
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: great and highly skilled and trained our crew are.

641
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Speaker 3: And it's a great thing to see.

642
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Speaker 2: What I remember a specially in the Norway episode, because

643
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: people have I think an unfair idea that again people

644
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: are throwing us clothes or food or a hotel. But

645
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: I remember landing in Norway and we start we're going

646
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: across this very slick like mountain to we're in fjords,

647
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Speaker 2: but my boots got wet and so we're going through

648
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: water and so my feet are wet in my socks

649
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, well, any moment now, someone's gonna come

650
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: in and toss me some new boots. Like we're gonna stop,

651
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Speaker 2: We're gonna go sit on a stump, and I'm.

652
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Speaker 3: Gonna any moment.

653
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have some new And we rolled in wet

654
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Speaker 2: boots and wet feet until the night and we literally

655
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: put them by the fire.

656
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: People are asking, you know what, It's so great though,

657
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: It's so good because, like you know, when people get famous,

658
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: people stop treating them differently, and it's like, you know,

659
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: it's like it's not a healthy dynamic because as you know,

660
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: at home, nobody treaty like that. It's like and humans

661
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: tend to sort of push until somebody says stop. And

662
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: I see it often on this show, like you know,

663
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you are so great, you're so grounded, and.

664
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: Normally you just are laughed and off we go.

665
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: But sometimes I kind of see them looking like when

666
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: their feet are instantly wet and something, I kind of.

667
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: See them half kind.

668
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 1: Of looking around as if are we going to And

669
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: I love it every time.

670
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: They never go you know, we need I need new blooes.

671
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: They always love it.

672
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: They're always like great, but it's like there always always

673
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: that often that moment of like really we're in, like

674
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: we're really doing this, we're really crossing this river and

675
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: you're you're really tying the rope off this cliff to

676
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: this little spindly root. And it's like, yeah, but it's good,

677
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: it's strong. I've done this all my life, but we're good.

678
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: And I will often back it up with a second one,

679
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: but it never needs it. You know, I do it

680
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: because we're always safe. A lot I put a second

681
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: line on them, but it's like the roots always hold

682
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 1: all the you know. The little rock thread reviews on

683
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: a tiny little bit of whatever works and that's a

684
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: fun part of it. Again, it's like you kind of

685
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: wing it and and I think the guests again love

686
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: that dynamic at the end because it's.

687
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: What makes them feel proud of themselves. So it is legit.

688
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 2: You know, what about your kids, did they inherit the

689
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: I want to do, you know, adrenaline type things from you?

690
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, they're smarter, still have a better looking, stronger, fitter,

691
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, in every way, and it's just true. They're

692
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: three boys are wonderful. Jesse a twenty two now he

693
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: works with us every day. He films all the behind

694
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: the scenes for the shows and for all the digital stuff.

695
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: So for me, that's been a just one of the

696
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: great gifts in my life that I now like he's

697
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: beside me all the time and gives me confidence and

698
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: strength and happiness in my heart.

699
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: So that's magical.

700
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: Mum, Juke's a little bit younger, twenty and then hucklebre seventeen,

701
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: and you know, they all love.

702
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: Adventure in their own ways.

703
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: But at the same time, they're not kind of caricatures

704
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: of my life.

705
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: You know, they're really not that.

706
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: They're you know that I have taken them all skydiving

707
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: and paragliding and the odd mountain and stuff. But it's

708
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: but not masses. They all like different things. Huckleberry loves

709
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: loves his tennis and rugby, that's what he's into. And Marmadu,

710
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: the middle of one is a total one off. He

711
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: loves he's a trained butcher and he's joining the police,

712
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: and you know, he's he.

713
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: Loves his traveling. And I don't know.

714
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: I think as a parent you can only need just

715
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: encourage your kids to find what they love and to

716
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: be try and be humble and kind on the journey

717
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: and be a never give upper. And the rest is

718
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: I certainly wouldn't encourage him to be mini clones.

719
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: Of my stuff.

720
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: Because I say that they're better, smarter, they're going to

721
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: fight there, They're already finding their own path and I'm

722
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: super proud of that.

723
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: Does Huckleberry think that like Roger Federer's cool? I watched

724
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: the episode you guys did together? Is that cool to him?

725
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 3: Yes? Super cool?

726
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: And actually, you know, Huckles is really had really quite shy, uh,

727
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: just a sweet gentle heart, and so Roger is always

728
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: going to be his guy. You know, He's he's less

729
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: into the machismo and they out there. He just he

730
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: loves Yannick Sinner for example. You know, he's so I

731
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: don't know if you know him as the number one

732
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: at the moment's such a humble guy as well.

733
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: And uh, but yeah, the Roger Federon was so fun

734
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 3: to do.

735
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: He's to be honest, he was a real hero of

736
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: mine if I had to pick a running wild guest

737
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: who were real icons for me over the years, apart

738
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: from of course yourself, you know, and Julia Roberts growing

739
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: up with.

740
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: So much of her sort of movies.

741
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: But I would say in terms of here roads, so

742
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: that Roger was as a family with such tennis fans,

743
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: so that was like super cool to be able to

744
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: take him on one. Hunkers was quite young and he

745
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: was probably like ten, but it wasn't wasted on him.

746
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: He was still like, that's the coolest one you've done.

747
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: If I remember correctly about that one. You guys were

748
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: going down to ice wall with the Federal one. Is

749
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: that right? Like we're climbing down like ice with sticks?

750
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: Like do you do that ahead at time? Without him first.

751
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: To know maybe I went down first or that.

752
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean, all I remember is he is quite technical

753
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: using crampons and ice on steep ice waterfalls going up

754
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: or down.

755
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: Can't quite remember what were you doing.

756
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: But like like it takes some practice. It takes some

757
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, you put somebody on day.

758
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: One on that.

759
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: They're all over the place really because it's super awkward

760
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: and your default balance is all wrong. And I said

761
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: this to Roger, I said, just take your time, and

762
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: I just remember like watching him doing it beside me,

763
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: just thinking you were, Wow, this guy's got the balance

764
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: of a bird. You know, he's literally like on his

765
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: on his front points, super balanced. So it's pretty cool

766
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, we laughed a lot on that program.

767
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: I mean we had we laughed a lot.

768
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 3: It was fun.

769
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's actually quit a scaredy cat. It's quite fun.

770
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: So he was going better. Honestly, I'm like, I'm so

771
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: bad with so much of this stuff. I'm bad with

772
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: heights and he couldn't like we're trying to gut a

773
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: fish and he couldn't get a hardly prod this thing.

774
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: And you know, and I think for me running wilds

775
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: where we can really laugh a lot, I mean we laugh,

776
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: especially with Caitlin on that one. We had such a

777
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: laugh altogether. And I love that dynamic because it makes

778
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: it more and more for feeling like just not work.

779
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes there work sometimes if it's really cold

780
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: or hot, and and then the guests maybe of struggling,

781
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: you're going to have really got to help him over

782
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: some things. You went to work guide mode. But like

783
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: a few sometimes they're just really fun. I love that,

784
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: and I think Rogers and Yours was like that, and

785
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: any second time round Rob is definitely like that. I

786
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: would say Common Domingo actually on this season was just

787
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: a great light as well, good fun.

788
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: So when they come they're great.

789
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: One final celebrity question, who did you work with? You

790
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: knew of them, they're they're wildly famous, but then you

791
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: ended up really liking them as a person.

792
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I'm always nervous saying I'm

793
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: great friends with someone because sometimes I feel maybe I

794
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: think I'm better friends with them that they might think

795
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: they are with me. So I'm not one of these

796
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: people that kind of says all these A lists stars

797
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: are great friends. But I would say they've been a

798
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: handful over the years. I would say Bradley Cooper's has

799
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: become a friend. He's come to stay with us a

800
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: bunch of times on our little island up in Wales

801
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: in the UK with Lear, his daughter, and we always

802
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: sort of tease him that his time he comes to

803
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: spend with us is his grounding.

804
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: Time of the year.

805
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: You know, we've got to do his own washing, and

806
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: there's no one there to look after him, and it's

807
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: a bit off grid, and our house is pretty small.

808
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 3: But he's so funny.

809
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: He's just the most normal, gentle, humble guy you'll meet.

810
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: And that's been great. And so I would say him,

811
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: but and then a few others, maybe some of the

812
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: less famous ones. I don't know, you know, you and

813
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: me have I like our connection, and no, I just

814
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't have like loads and loads of friends in

815
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: my life. I'd say, out of running wild, I've got

816
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: sort of probably you know, five or six that I

817
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: keep in good touch with, and another five would always

818
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: have each other's back, which is kind of like us.

819
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: And and I really I love that you only need

820
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: a few in life, don't you.

821
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 6: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

822
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 6: Bobby Cast.

823
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, final question, give me some some some dad advice.

824
00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: I'm brand new.

825
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you're going to be amazing. The

826
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: fact that you're even asking a new.

827
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: Care so much. You're going to be You're going to

828
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: be great.

829
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: And I really kind of I'm not one of these

830
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: people who kind of thinks, say, have it all right,

831
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: I've I've made many mistakes, I'm sure over the years,

832
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: but at the end of it, I think I have

833
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: really always known it's the only wealth we ever have

834
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: can be measured in the quality of our relationships with

835
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: our spouse and our kids and our close friends. You know,

836
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: the rest is detail. I've met so many people like

837
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: you over the years. You know, billionaires with broken relationships

838
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: and their kids hate them. And you know you're not

839
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: a rich guy. That does not make you a rich guy,

840
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: and therefore guarded early and the little things are the

841
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: big things, and put them first. You know, we all

842
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: have busy lives at work and many demands left right center,

843
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: but prioritize them, and you're just going to do a wonderful,

844
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: beautiful job.

845
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see Billy grow.

846
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: Up, and she's going into just the most wonderful home

847
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: with you too.

848
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: I know.

849
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: You know you've both got great hearts, and the world's

850
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: going to be better off and needs more parents like you,

851
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: so be encouraged and the best advice love their mother.

852
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: Love their mother, as kids.

853
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: Will always says, they always go example, example, example, and

854
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: kids don't listen to what we say, they look at

855
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: what we do.

856
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: Bear amazing seeing you everybody Bear girls is running wild

857
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: on Fox. I could tell your first hand it's real.

858
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: I can also tell you Bear is even better in

859
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: person than he is, and you're quite lovely on television.

860
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: So you know, I feel like with you, I'm the

861
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: guy who thinks you're my better friend than you actually,

862
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: do you know how you were talking about you feel

863
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: that way. I'm like, Bear's my best friend, That's my

864
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: best friend.

865
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: I listen, I'm there as well, and I love it

866
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: when we texted you on various things.

867
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, I forgot to say, will you

868
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: do me a favor? Will you?

869
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen my book, Greatest story

870
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: ever told. Yes, you have a read of it. I

871
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: just think I actually was thinking of you two the

872
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: other like a couple of weeks ago with this. I

873
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: just know this book will touch you. And it's super quick,

874
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: easy read. But it's the best thing I've ever done.

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00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: I'd give up every emmy, all of that, every every

876
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 1: summit and everything to have done this. And I would

877
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: say my work life has been the most profound thing

878
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: I've ever done in the sense that it is changing

879
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: lives all day. I've never experienced anything like this before

880
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: my work life.

881
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: So I'd love to hear.

882
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: I love you guys who read it, and I'd love

883
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: to hear how you feel about it.

884
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: Why is this different?

885
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: Because it's all of our stories. It's all of our

886
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: stories helps people find home, you know. It's like anything

887
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: that helps bring people together and give light and strength

888
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: to their hearts, you know. And religion is such a

889
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: difficult word and thing for people. And my experience of

890
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: religion was always very kind of frosty and judgmental and

891
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: difficult and irrelevant and irre and not helpful for my life.

892
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: And it's been such a life journey to realize the

893
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: heart of Christ is totally the opposite. And there's a

894
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: moment freeing family centered like like strength for life, strength

895
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: for the battles, friendships, risk, sacrifice, courage, you know, all

896
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: the things that we love. But I never associated with

897
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: the story of Christ. And it's been a lifetime journey

898
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: to get to the heart of it. That's why I

899
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: wanted to write this book of basically saying of saying,

900
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: look at the real story, you know, because we all

901
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: know stories about Jesus of like you know, in the

902
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: Nativity or the Good Samaritan, and they never they never

903
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: connected with me.

904
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: And then seeing this whole thing together and I just

905
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 3: told it like.

906
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: It is without any of the religious stuff that for

907
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: two thousand years were put into it, to try to

908
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: get to the heart of why was everybody who encountered

909
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: this guy changed and made better?

910
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: And why did the elite fear him so much?

911
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: And it's just such an interesting time to be speaking

912
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: into this sort of thing at a time a division

913
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: when we need unity and peacemakers. So it's touching people

914
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: at every faith, every culture I get and Muslims and

915
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: Jewish people, all sorts, and they all write to me

916
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: every day, just going on no idea that this is.

917
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 3: A real story.

918
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: So, like I say, best thing I've ever done, one

919
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: of the hardest, but the best thing.

920
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: Why would you do this book? Then it's a it's

921
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: again it's a bit different. What what inspired you to

922
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: start this? Because writing a book is not something you

923
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: can do in today.

924
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: No, because it's like you, I've just learned in life,

925
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm not scared any longer to follow my heart. And

926
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: it was just screaming in my heart. It was like

927
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: nobody's ever done this, nobody's ever written the story of Christ.

928
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: It's like a thriller, but theologically one hundred percent accurate.

929
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 1: I've done this partnership with the Chosen TV show where

930
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: we did it like a running Well Bespokes season. I

931
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: took a lot of their characters. Do you know the

932
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: Chosen You heard of that? So I took a lot

933
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: of I took like Jesus, Johnathan Ruby and all that

934
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: people on Mini Running Wild Journeys. And it gave me

935
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: great access to their theological teams and sot to work

936
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: with them, and just all these things came together at

937
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: the right time, and it was just like I couldn't sleep.

938
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: It was like, bere clear the decks write this, you

939
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: know you're going to do this, and and it was

940
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: so daunting, so daunting, but like now it's out there.

941
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: It went straight to number one. It's been in the

942
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: top ten for twenty weeks now. It's been, like I said,

943
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: the best thing I've ever done I had no idea

944
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: the effect we had had. And it's like if The

945
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: Running Wild and all the other TV shows have given

946
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: me a platform for anything, this is what I feel

947
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: it's for because it's a bad adventure at heart as well.

948
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: It's how we live our lives, you know, and it's

949
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: that adventure state of mind.

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00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's why.

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00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: Great to see you. Really seriously, I hope you stay

952
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: safe and I hope the show does exactly what you want.

953
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: And I'm super excited to hear the book is doing

954
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: precisely what you wanted so always, and I'll talk Caitlin.

955
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: She sends her best. I'll tell her you send it back.

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00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: Oh please do Yeah, give her a big, big huggin

957
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: Little Billy so proud of you.

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00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: You keep shining bright.

959
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: Don't listen to the dream sealies, key going, brother, you

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00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: are the best.

961
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: All right, bears, see you, buddy, Thank

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00:44:53,920 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 5: You, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.