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Speaker 2: Harrison dies for the up zone. He's in touchdow Hound.

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Speaker 2: Tackle for a loss by guess who? Collas Campbell.

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Trey McBride. Heck of a play by the all

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Speaker 2: world tight end Tray McBride. Oh that was nasty right there,

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Speaker 2: right Slam the ground by Buddha Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul calvic.

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Speaker 2: Be in a holiday week. Am I a bad guy? If?

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Speaker 2: Before you answer that, yeah, let me qualify that not

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Speaker 2: just a blanket statement. There's a specific question in here.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you got to that yes, because.

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Speaker 2: We know which way the two of you would vote.

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Speaker 2: Here on Cardinals Underground, Danny Surrec Darren Irvan, You're a

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Speaker 2: truly poly podcast Am I a bad guy if I

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Speaker 2: don't like a parade? You know the old saying everyone

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Speaker 2: loves a parade? Really, everyone know.

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Speaker 4: I'm with Paul one million pulng on.

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Speaker 3: Are you talking about watching the Thanksgiving Day Parade on

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Speaker 3: your couch? Are you talking about fighting the crowds for

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl parade? What are what are the circumstances?

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Speaker 2: A valid question? Yeah, I can withstand and take a parade,

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Speaker 2: you know, from with the remote in my hand. And

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be two at least, right, there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: two on Thanksgiving morning. There's gonna be two remotes or

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Speaker 2: two parade the Macy's Day Parade in New York City,

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Speaker 2: and that the underrated parade that I'm seeing here. Boot

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Speaker 2: Parade was actually sorry but recently named the top holiday

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Speaker 2: parade by USA. Today they've rebranded it into America's Thanksgiving Parade,

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Speaker 2: otherwise known Darren as the Detroit Thanksgiving Day Parade. As

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Speaker 2: a Detroit native, Darren.

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Speaker 4: I was not aware there was this, is it televised?

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Speaker 2: It's actually as old as the Macy's Day Parade. They're

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Speaker 2: both nearly one hundred years old.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we all know about East Coast bias we already.

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Speaker 4: You know everybody knows about Macy's and New York.

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Speaker 3: Here's where I stand on parades is I would never

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Speaker 3: go stand in line in person in those right. I'm

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Speaker 3: also not someone the last thing I ever want to

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Speaker 3: do is spend New Year's Eve in Times Square, and

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Speaker 3: that kind of crowd doesn't interest me. If you're telling me, though,

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Speaker 3: that the team I have cheered for my entire life

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Speaker 3: wins a trophy of some sort, I'm willing to fight

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Speaker 3: my disdain for massive crowds like that to enjoy that

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Speaker 3: once in a lifetime experience. The Cowboys, I was saying

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Speaker 3: hypothetically as a person. Oh okay, not necessarily me specifically.

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Speaker 3: I also grew up a Dallas Stars fan. I mean

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Speaker 3: we got to a point where I was talking with

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Speaker 3: of Okay, how can I make this work with my

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Speaker 4: Darren Hatcher's a jerk. But anyways, I would say I'm

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Speaker 4: not a fan of definitely not a fan of parades

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Speaker 4: in person. One of the things I like you like

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Speaker 4: about having them at home is you can walk away

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Speaker 4: from watching them and the other thing that pops in

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Speaker 4: my head is I'm kind of the same way. Now.

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Speaker 4: This definitely is a downfall of growing up in Arizona.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a fireworks person, and that is probably mostly

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Speaker 4: because those handful of times that my mom tried desperately

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Speaker 4: Fourth of July and You're just sitting in the stifling heat,

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Speaker 4: even though it's eight o'clock at night, and I'm just thinking,

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Speaker 4: can we just go home?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So when the Cardinals won the Super Bowl, you

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Speaker 3: guys are not going to be the parade.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, we'll probably have to cover it. It's a

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Speaker 2: There are championship parades and there holiday parades, you know,

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Speaker 2: because you know on Thanksgiving morning, I'm gonna get dragged

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Speaker 3: And do you do the turkey trot or either turkey

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Speaker 2: I should actually really should, but you know, burn off

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Speaker 4: Can we back up?

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Speaker 2: You have to go to a parade, It's it's it's

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Speaker 2: mandatory by the uh yeah, parade. Well, it's a local town,

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Speaker 4: It's Fountain Hills. He lives up there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not a big fan of the parade, nor

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Speaker 2: do I think it's very well run, to be honest

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Speaker 2: with you, but you know, I just I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a car guy, can you wash your car before

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Speaker 2: you put it in the parade?

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Speaker 4: That's fair.

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Speaker 3: That's like someone who lives in Fountain Hills would say.

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Speaker 2: Something like that. So that's mentally preparing myself for that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, there's no light here, not that I

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Speaker 3: J j J told me, and Alex goes out of town.

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Speaker 2: Apparently it's it's it's not a it's not a right,

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Speaker 2: it's a privilege. You have to earn the light from

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Speaker 2: week to week. And Jay says, based on last week,

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Speaker 2: So uh, no light there you go, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Maybe next week we'll just do this a lot the

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Speaker 3: double thumbs up over there.

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Speaker 2: All right? So Cardinals are going to Tampa.

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Speaker 4: They are going to Tampa.

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Speaker 2: Is that the occasion for that shirt a lot? That's

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Speaker 2: like a it's like a Florida shirt. You gotta going there? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just okay, saying there's a guy who doesn't like fireworks.

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Speaker 2: I mean fireworks in that shirt.

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Speaker 4: Car probably be a little much. I like the shirt,

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Speaker 4: Thank you, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I can tell you that one of the

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Speaker 4: I I every time we go to Tampa, I keep

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Speaker 4: thinking of the one time we're sitting at the team

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Speaker 4: hotel and I was having a beverage with Ken Summers,

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Speaker 4: up to us to give us a little bro hug

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Speaker 4: and say hi, Edrin James, WHOA really Yeah, this was

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Speaker 4: a while ago. This was I'm trying to remember what

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Speaker 2: Was his double parked outside?

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Speaker 4: Might have been. Might have been the twenty thirteen game

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Speaker 4: where Patrick Peterson made the big interception at the end

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Speaker 4: and they played terribly, but they pulled it out at

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Speaker 4: the very end. I've never been to I'm sure you

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Speaker 4: were sweating that day.

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Speaker 2: Paul Mike Glennon. It was we got Mike.

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Speaker 4: Mike Glennon. Mike Clennon is like rookie yere.

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Speaker 3: I've never been to Tampa. I'm excited to go to

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Speaker 3: check another stadium off my list, but I'm not a

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Speaker 4: What are we talking about, like eighty seven percent humidity

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Speaker 3: What do we probably? I'm already planning since the two

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Speaker 3: of you were curious, don't ask, I'm already planning on

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Speaker 3: wearing my hair up to start the day. Oh there

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Speaker 3: we go, So stop stressing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, stop stressing.

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Speaker 3: I've already made the decision.

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Speaker 2: It's good that you know. That was the big question

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Speaker 2: off the top here at Cardinals Underground. It's been answered,

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Speaker 2: so okay. The other question was just how wrong was

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Speaker 2: yours truly with my preseason prediction that this game would

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Speaker 2: be flexed into primetime?

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Speaker 3: So I was the only one to technically get our

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Speaker 2: I will say that, But a lot of it had

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Speaker 2: to do with Baker Mayfield against Kyler Murray. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: neither one of them movie either side of that equation

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Speaker 2: is likely to materialize.

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Speaker 3: You guys just need to get on my level.

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Speaker 2: Fair So now you're gonna go against Todd Bowles and company.

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Speaker 4: But Teddy Bridgewater probably Teddy Bridgewater, is it?

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Speaker 3: Probably?

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Speaker 4: It is? Well, they said Baker Mayfield has got a

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Speaker 4: sprain and his non throwing shoulder. They're not closing the

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Speaker 3: Playing that hip was push him for a playoff spot,

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: But every time I think of Baker Mayfield, I think

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Speaker 2: of two things. One well, same game. Two things was

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Speaker 2: the COVID game twenty twenty at Cleveland. Chandler Jones had

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Speaker 2: just how long Baker Mayfield was holding on to the football.

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Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield got hurt in that game too, so he did.

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Speaker 2: But there was also they hit a big hail mary.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals were killing him, but they hit a big hail

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Speaker 2: mary rate before half advanced Joseph at halftime. I had

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Speaker 2: no idea he could throw it that far. That was

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Speaker 4: I think of Baker Mayfield and I think of the

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Speaker 4: progressive commercial astologies. He was next level on those. Speaking

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Speaker 3: I don't care, those were good.

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Speaker 2: So the Cardinals go to Tampa and they're coming off

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Speaker 2: another less than six point loss, right, what is it?

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Speaker 2: Six losses? Now by four points or fewer? Is it

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Speaker 2: making any easier to pallette to tolerate. When it's a

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Speaker 2: close loss versus a lopsided loss Seattle, San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you're in it, you're in it. It's it's still frustrating.

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Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. It is still frustrating to not

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Speaker 3: be on the right side of those close games. So

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Speaker 3: consistently the team is close to though, and that's frustrating

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Speaker 3: as that is to be at this point in the

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Speaker 3: season when the players and coaches say that, it's true

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Speaker 3: they are competing with teams in the league and they're

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Speaker 3: hanging in there, but they're not able to finish. And

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Speaker 3: that's where things have really been frustrating for this team

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Speaker 4: I'm willing to allow that losses stink in all regards,

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Speaker 4: but having just gone through the Seattle and San Francisco games,

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Speaker 4: it was much more enjoyable to watch a game that

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Speaker 4: was close.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's true. It was a game through four quarters

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Speaker 2: and in overtime, So that's the first thing you can

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Speaker 2: say about it. The other thing you can say is,

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Speaker 2: all right, what do you need to bridge that gap

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Speaker 2: from being in the game to winning the game? Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: was that team a year ago. They went three to

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Speaker 2: ten in one score games. Look at them now. They

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Speaker 2: are seven and four and in first place, well right

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Speaker 2: behind the Indianapolis Colts, who have a ridiculous end of

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Speaker 2: the season schedule. By the way, have you seen the

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Speaker 2: way they I mean, the Colts have to play the

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Speaker 2: Texans twice and the Jags twice down the stretch, Plus

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Speaker 2: they have another marquee opponent. An eight and three team

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Speaker 2: might end up being like nine to eight by the

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Speaker 2: end of the year. We'll see. It's amazing how things

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Speaker 2: can change in November and December.

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Speaker 3: I mean compared to the Cardinals, who also have to

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Speaker 3: face the Texans and the Rams twice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Rams twice is gonna be tough, because that man,

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Speaker 4: do they look like a juggernaut with two g's.

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Speaker 4: Michael Wilson has been fabulous. He's done it two weeks

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Speaker 3: Eighteen targets two weeks ago, fifteen targets last week he

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a little bit. That's something

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Speaker 4: Well, we talk all the time about it, Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 2: And he nearly did.

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Speaker 3: He did all that work knowing he wasn't going to

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Speaker 3: Wilson has been very transparent about understanding what his role

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Speaker 3: So he's never had this opportunity to be a true

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Speaker 2: Here's my rant. Tis the season where you start getting

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Speaker 2: So the Cardinals right now would be drafting eighth and

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Speaker 3: You come a long way in the last year, Paul.

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Speaker 2: You took a receiver number four overall. You have Michael

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Speaker 2: thing you probably need in this becoming draft is to

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Speaker 4: I'm one with you, Paul.

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Speaker 3: We actually both agree with you.

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Speaker 2: All right, I need a break. We need to get cultured,

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Speaker 2: do we not?

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Speaker 4: Let's yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Danny will segue.

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Speaker 3: To here getting cultured With Danny it is not just

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Speaker 2: Am I the default uncultured philistine around here.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you got me very excited.

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Speaker 3: Now I am on social media and consume more at

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Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, what go.

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Speaker 4: I want to know? Olmo. Would default uncultured Philistines be

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Speaker 3: Paula is the front man.

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Speaker 2: I was reminded recently at a family event my younger

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Speaker 3: I can't say, that's side a bench chase in fantasy.

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Speaker 4: If you're in an NFL game, would you rather get

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Speaker 3: Place you don't want to be punched?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy? All right?

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Speaker 3: AnyWho my turn. Sorry, here's our late Louve heist update.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Eight people. It's a lot of it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too many mouths to keep shut. It's somebody's

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Speaker 2: It's true, you know.

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Speaker 3: Are you both aware of fire Festival from a few

441
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 3: years ago?

442
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Speaker 4: I am.

443
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 2: That was the debacle out on the island.

444
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 3: Yes, let me refresh your memory. It was Firefest with

445
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 3: Billy McFarlane that was who was putting on this fake quotes.

446
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 3: Luxury music festivals set in the Bahamas in twenty seventeen

447
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 3: and a bunch of artists canceled last minute when they

448
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 3: realized what the situation was once people got there. He

449
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 3: was scamming everyone, is what it was. He lied about

450
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: the artists that were performing, didn't provide proper food, running

451
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 3: water or lodging. It didn't match the photos because they

452
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 3: were staying in like disaster relief tents that were like leak.

453
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 3: It was not a good situation. So he was sentenced

454
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 3: to six years in prison and McFarlane served four of those.

455
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 4: Well oh no, oh no.

456
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Speaker 3: So do I take that as you're not attending Phoenix

457
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Speaker 3: Fest in the Caribbean next weekend. It is a luxury

458
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 3: music festival for about four hundred people which it will

459
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 3: also be live streamed. Ticket prices ranged from two hundred

460
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 3: dollars to five hundred thousand. That package includes a private

461
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: jet avilla, twenty four to seven golf cart driver, et cetera.

462
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 3: Now McFarlane has been taking videos himself on the island

463
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 3: with documenting the process of getting all this situated. So

464
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 3: one the stage is not set, this is next week.

465
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,120
Speaker 3: The stage where the artists will be supposedly performing is

466
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Speaker 3: not complete. And he showed a helicopter landing path, which

467
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 3: is a rickety ten x ten floating piece of wood

468
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: in the water right right next to the loading dock.

469
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Speaker 4: Who was giving this guy and.

470
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 3: The boats to transport the people from their lodging to

471
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Speaker 3: the stage part of the island. He got on the boat,

472
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: he said this. You know, he's recording himself walking down

473
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Speaker 3: the dock getting in the boat. This is how long

474
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 3: it's going to take to show people it's legit. The

475
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 3: boat holds max Eight to ten people, so that is

476
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Speaker 3: also something I will be keeping my eye on for

477
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Speaker 3: the two of you to see how that goes down.

478
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Speaker 2: Would you invest with Bernie made off? No? So, I

479
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: mean people are actually in trusted in this sky.

480
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 4: Bernie made off after he got busted the first time.

481
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Speaker 3: This is also legally allowed to put on another music festival,

482
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Speaker 3: is my question. You both have been cultured though you're welcome.

483
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Speaker 2: Wow, okay.

484
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Speaker 3: I will definitely be keeping my eye on how Phoenix

485
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Speaker 3: Fast turns out.

486
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Speaker 4: Mm hmm, all right, well for a minute that you're

487
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: gonna say it was here.

488
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Speaker 3: If you get taken Oh, it's pH NX festival.

489
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: So if you get taken by this kind of.

490
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Speaker 3: I would just I would imagine that is like the

491
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 3: phoenix rising from the ashes. When I was talking with

492
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Speaker 3: our team photographer Caitlin, That's what we were kind of figuring,

493
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Speaker 3: is he is like the phoenix. He's rising from the

494
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Speaker 3: ashes of.

495
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Speaker 2: Prison as opposed to a soccer team. Okay, all right,

496
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: I get it, all right, So yeah, you will get

497
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: taken by this guy somehow someway, which is my segue

498
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Speaker 2: to the takeaways by the Cardinals defense.

499
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Speaker 4: Oh nice job.

500
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Speaker 2: Does that have sustainability? What did you see there? That

501
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: seven man front with dialing up the safeties with Buddha

502
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 2: Baker and Jalen Thompson and using their years of experience

503
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: in football. IQ show hands who liked that? Look? That

504
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: seemed pretty dang effective, right.

505
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Speaker 4: I mean the blitzing got home most of the time,

506
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 4: even though one that didn't work. Garrett Williams was laying

507
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: in it to Trevor Lawrence before he threw a really

508
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 4: nice touchdown pass and it was a nice play by him.

509
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Speaker 2: Where did that pass come? I mean he was stinking

510
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: up the joint and they threw an absolute dark.

511
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's the Trevor Lawrence experience. But I would

512
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: say that it was good to see clearly, Like I'm

513
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: sure if you asked Nick Ralis or any of the defenders,

514
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 4: they would have liked to have a couple of the

515
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Speaker 4: stops on the drives they really had to. For instance,

516
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Speaker 4: the one where they gave up the touchdown right after

517
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals took the league with seven minutes to go.

518
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Speaker 2: Yep, six plays sixty five yards after they led twenty

519
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: one to seventeen.

520
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Speaker 4: But they created turnovers that I mean, I would have

521
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Speaker 4: liked to see that game play out if Walter Nolan

522
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 4: hadn't gotten hurt. I mean, he was off to a

523
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Speaker 4: good start. That wasn't lovely, and you still don't have

524
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Speaker 4: Will Johnson. But they did a lot of good things.

525
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 4: And again, when you go to play a team, let's

526
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Speaker 4: just assume, for the sake of as we sit here

527
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 4: recording that you're either going to play Teddy Bridgewater or

528
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 4: a compromise Baker Mayfield. And one of the things that

529
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 4: makes Baker Mayfield great is his willingness to extend plays

530
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Speaker 4: and run around and be a crazy man back there.

531
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Speaker 4: And he might be a lot less crazy if he

532
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 4: knows if he takes a shot on his left arm,

533
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Speaker 4: he might not be able to continue. I'd like to

534
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Speaker 4: see that kind of pressure continue. I think you can

535
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Speaker 4: still get some turnovers.

536
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Speaker 3: What was impressive is the defense forced turnovers on all

537
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Speaker 3: three levels. And it wasn't just turnovers of being in

538
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 3: the right place at the right time. They earned it

539
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: with I discipline, the blitz, the stripsack from Jalen Thompson.

540
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: Nolan caught the ball with his right hand while continuing

541
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Speaker 3: the block with his left hand. He shook that offensive

542
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: lineman and he found his way in the end zone

543
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: while taking a hit, which unfortunately would lead to that

544
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: knee injury that kept him out of the second half.

545
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 3: A Keem Davis, Gaither, Buddha Baker. Those were athletic interceptions

546
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Speaker 3: and understanding from watching film, understanding the tendencies of Trevor

547
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: Lawrence and the Jags offense, and for Garrett Williams to

548
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: jump the receiver in the end zone with that pick

549
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: and keep the Jags off the scoreboard at least for

550
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 3: that drive. It's impressive. It wasn't just luck for those four.

551
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 3: The defense really worked for those and that's what you need.

552
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: To see continue. Is it realistic to have four in

553
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: a game? Probably not, But we also said that about

554
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: Michael Wilson, and he went from eighteen targets and state

555
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Speaker 3: of fifteen, so I guess anything's possible.

556
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Speaker 4: Clais Campbell gets the assist on the Garret Williams, Yeah,

557
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: inter hit the ball.

558
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, I mean he was one of our

559
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: interviews after the game. Garrett Williams almost just shook off

560
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 2: that interception as absolutely no big deal. The way he

561
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 2: termed it, it was so easy. It was right to me.

562
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 2: After the ball was tipped. I think he was still

563
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 2: thinking about the touchdown pass Parker Washington.

564
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Speaker 4: I'm sure he's about it, and after the loss, if

565
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: Klais doesn't tip it, I don't know what happens on

566
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: that play. But the thing is is if we talk

567
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 4: about complimentary football, whether it's offense defense or a pass

568
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: rush wetted up with the coverage, that's what we're talking about.

569
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Speaker 4: We're talking about being close enough and then the pass rush. Okay,

570
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: didn't get there, but Klais gets the tip. You're covering

571
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 4: in the right place, you get the turnout. It doesn't matter.

572
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 4: The bottom line is that should have been a touchdown

573
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 4: drive for the Jacksonville Jaguars and they got no points

574
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 4: on it.

575
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: The complimentary part from the offense needed to be better.

576
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: If you're looking for where to improve all that, that's

577
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: where it has to be better.

578
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 4: I mean after turnovers.

579
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Look, that Baker pick in the fourth quarter

580
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: was huge, and then Greg dort scores on the ensuing drive.

581
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: That's crucial. But there were two interceptions in which the

582
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: Cardinals offense took the field and it didn't end in

583
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 3: any points. That's tough.

584
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: Well, one of them was when Brissett got knocked silly

585
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: on the sideline on first down, and with all due

586
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 4: respect to Keaton's slovas, that was you know, the direct

587
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 4: snap to Greg dortch the lost five and then hey, Keaton,

588
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 4: we're going to get your first NFL completion, but it's

589
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 4: going to be a backwards pass, so you'll have negative

590
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 4: yards on your all time passing right now.

591
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: So it's interesting to hear Buddha Baker last week going

592
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: into the game talking at length about Trevor Lawrence, not

593
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: the passing game, but his run game, his legs and

594
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: not getting down, willingness to really extend a run and

595
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: Buddha Baker subliminally, we believe sending a message to Trevor

596
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: Lawrence you better get down or else. And he had

597
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 2: the nineteen yard run in that first half, and Johnathangin

598
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: cited that coming off at halftime did not like that.

599
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 2: But other than that, he had four pretty ineffective runs

600
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: for not much yardage, two or three yards a piece.

601
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: So that was good by the Cardinals. I would say

602
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: they need to get ready to stop the run in

603
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: Tampa if it indeed is going to be Teddy Bridgewater,

604
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: because you have a Tampa offense that's going to get

605
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: back Bucky Irving from all indications RB one two games

606
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: ago they ran for over two hundred at Buffalo, So

607
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: you got to figure with a backup quarterback and they're

608
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: healthy running back, they're going to come out and try

609
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: and run the football. So we'll see. And with that

610
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: in mind, i'd say, and you said it earlier, Walter Nolan,

611
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: Will Johnson, I mean, if you're thinking, okay, where do

612
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: your eyes go in these last six games. The two

613
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: top rookies from this class, Darius Robinson from last year's class,

614
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: who by all indications and all accounts, talking to the

615
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: coaches like we all do, and what they've said, he's

616
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: continuing to ascend. I wonder how much of it is

617
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Walter Nolan the third has shown up on the scene

618
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: and you're right in your own well competition, in your

619
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: own position room. And then Cody Simon mac Wilson Senior

620
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: is going to miss at least two more games. I

621
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: believe so, Cody Simon at inside linebacker. You know you

622
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: saw Travis etn get loose. Now that was a Keen

623
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: Davis gaither and he lost his footing. But you saw

624
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: that first touchdown passing land four plays ninety seven yards

625
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: on the opening possession of the game. But you know,

626
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: once again that inside linebacker spy. I think, just me

627
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: eyeball tests, they're still missing their seek and destroy captain

628
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: at middle linebacker, Mac Wilson Senior more than I think

629
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: most people realize, especially in the run game.

630
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: Oh. I don't think there's any question Mac Wilson's one

631
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: of your best players. And I think the way he

632
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 4: was playing, Mac Wilson deserved at least some consideration for

633
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl. I don't know if we could have gotten

634
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: there and then to get hurt stinks because he was

635
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: playing well, and when you take that out, it's it's

636
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: been noticeable. And that's not a knock on Cody Simon

637
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: who's learning the game as a rookie, but he's not

638
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 4: Mac Wilson.

639
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: So if Will Johnson, you hope can get back and

640
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: you know, really get some valuable reps the remainder of

641
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: his rookie season. Marvin Harrison Junior, I hope can be

642
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: back soon, and same deal. Isaiah Adams has been in

643
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: the lineup more and more, both as part of a rotation,

644
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: and then you have the injury to Will Hernandez and

645
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: Isaiah Adams from all indications has been improving slowly but steadily,

646
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: you know, in his assignments and in trying to finish blocks,

647
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: and so that's all part of the process to me

648
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: that that's the best case scenario for the rest of

649
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: the year. How can you get these first, second and

650
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: third year players to really improve their game, because look,

651
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: decisions are going to be made in the offseason, and

652
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: if you're a player right now, especially a young player

653
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: who's an unproven player, you need to make up the

654
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: mind to the decision makers for them with your film.

655
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: Well, there's no choice, this isn't a situation where everybody's healthy,

656
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: and hey, let's set the veteran and let's see what

657
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: we have in the young players. You're a paned up team,

658
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: which happens in the league, right, happens to almost every team.

659
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: This is where you see what players are made of.

660
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: What kind of progress have you made from the beginning

661
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: of the off season or if you're in your second year,

662
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: from the start of the season, right, and what you've

663
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: been told to work on, And how are you getting better?

664
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: How are you helping the team get better? Where is

665
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: the bar of where the judgment's going to be made

666
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: when decisions have to be made at the end of

667
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: the season, and game reps are invaluable. You can do

668
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: your best in practice, although you get to a point

669
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: in the season where you can only have a certain

670
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: number of padded practices because of the NFLPA, right, so

671
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: you can really only learn so much. It is those

672
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: game reps where you really learn the most about a player.

673
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: Speaking of banged up. Oh, this might be our segue

674
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: into a certain segment in the show gets well. You'd

675
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 2: like to think it gets competitive based on the win

676
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: loss record, not so much a lot of close losses

677
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: by yours truly. I get to figure out. I've been

678
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: in the game. I gotta figure out how to win

679
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: the game. All right, finish the question. Finish this edition

680
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: a wise guy.

681
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy the world's Bestest Growing

682
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals Quiz Show. The stakes are low, the winner gets

683
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess, Danny, Sir.

684
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a tough one. We do not play

685
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers often.

686
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 4: Number one, Danny.

687
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: I don't have a pen, so my memory is gonna

688
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: have to serve me well. Today.

689
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: At least someone's smiling. Darren already has his game face on.

690
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: I better match it. All right, here we go, Time

691
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: to mean mug bring it.

692
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 3: Question one. This former fourth round draft pick of the

693
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: Cardinals scored eleven rushing touchdowns in four seasons with Arizona

694
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: and later added ten rushing touchdowns over six seasons with

695
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers. His son is currently an NFL player in

696
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: the AFC. Who is this former Cardinal.

697
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: And buccaneer Michael Pitmin Correct.

698
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman, Junior of the Indianapolis Colts.

699
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 4: I actually had that before. You said his son was

700
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: a receiver.

701
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: Just look at you.

702
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I think of question, I think of Michael Pittman,

703
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: and I think of gonna start doing some bicep curls.

704
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: Here we go, let's go. I'll go. What number was I?

705
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: That was one?

706
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 2: That was one? Okay? Three? Here we go.

707
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: Oh oh, this is gonna be good.

708
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: Don't get mad at me, come on. Tampa Bay is

709
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: sometimes referred to as the as quote, the capital of

710
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: death metal, thanks to band like Morbid Angel and Cannibal Corpse.

711
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: Thank god, I did not get this question.

712
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: Don't ask me about out of those bands because I

713
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: have no clue.

714
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so based on last week, you should give me

715
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: an infinite number of hints. That's how Darren got Limp biscuits.

716
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: Let's go write the question. Okay. Tampa Bay capital of

717
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: death metal death metal, but the area has also produced

718
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: other notable acts. One example is this popular symphonic rock

719
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: and metal band, formed in Tampa in nineteen ninety six,

720
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 3: famous for its elaborate stage shows and its modern, edgy

721
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: take on Christmas classics. I mean this is a doozy

722
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: have a question.

723
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Speaker 2: Symphonic, so they perform as if a symphony. I mean,

724
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: what what what? What you even mean by symphonic. Okay

725
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: a minute, let me really think about this for a moment.

726
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 3: Christmas Rock and Metal borned in Tampa, nineteen ninety six,

727
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: modern take on Christmas class.

728
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I got it, slip knot.

729
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: Ball.

730
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: Is it Trans Siberian Orchestra? Yes, I've seen them in concert.

731
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: Oh with the steal.

732
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: But everybody's so disappointed in me when I'm correct.

733
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: What is the Transcidean Orchestra? What is that? It's a group.

734
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm allowed to pull up the music music.

735
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 4: You'd be like, oh, that put off air.

736
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: I think if I played a song right now on

737
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: my laptop, it would you know? Music right?

738
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: You know the music, the rock Christmas music that people like.

739
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 3: Is it?

740
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: Like?

741
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of like, but they put it up

742
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 4: with their lights. They sink it up to the lights.

743
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with number two, Danny.

744
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry. Paul. This former Buccaneers defender would join

745
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: the Cardinals in two thousand and three and become the

746
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: second player to host Big Red Rage. To second player

747
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: to host in Big Red Rage history, our weekly radio

748
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: show with Paul.

749
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: Texter checks you should have picked to Paul.

750
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the people will blame me online because

751
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: I think I am some raking this.

752
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: Really it kind of dawns on me. I've never really

753
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: actually seen the sheet. I've just always presumed that it's

754
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: on the up and on. But how do I know

755
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: this isn't quiz show at this point? You know the movie?

756
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: How do I know that?

757
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a dare you try and turn

758
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: this on me?

759
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: Talk about it?

760
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: I'm riding for.

761
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: You, moving target?

762
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: All right?

763
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: What was number four just for kids? What was number

764
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: four just for kicks? Paul?

765
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: Okay, don't shoot the messenger. This nineteen eighty five movie

766
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: starring Wilford Brimley was set in Tampa and followed a

767
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: group of retirement home residents who discover pool that restores

768
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: their youth.

769
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: I've never know this. You know this that's forced to.

770
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: Choose between being young again on earth or leaving with

771
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 3: aliens for a new life.

772
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I never saw it. I kind of remember the

773
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: commercials no idea, no clue, what the coons?

774
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: And by the way, this is our fun fact. When

775
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 4: Wilford Brimley shot cocoon again on his whatever, he was

776
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 4: trying to find the fountain of youth. He was younger

777
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 4: than Tom Cruise. Was I think in like the Third

778
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 4: Mission Impossible movie or something like that. It was. It

779
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: was like Wilford Brimley at fifty and Tom Cruise at

780
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 4: fifty aren't even in the same universe.

781
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: Wasn't he the oatmeal guy? He did call the oatmeal? Okay,

782
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: all right, there we go was an oatmeal commercial?

783
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: Wait? Did I just go four?

784
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: And?

785
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 4: Oh?

786
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 2: I think I was, Yes, he did.

787
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: We didn't even do the tiebreaker. You guys want to

788
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: do that since we don't play Tampa. Okay, don't, don't.

789
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: Don't crush them all down.

790
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 4: We're gonna We're gonna move.

791
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: Maybe just one of these years. There might be a

792
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: car question in there somewhere. Alrighty, let's see here.

793
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 4: Scored a big touchdown in Tampa.

794
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: That's right, yes he did. And uh that brings us

795
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 2: to the following. What was Larry's best friend? A run game?

796
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 4: Right?

797
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so the threat of the play action gets single

798
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: coverage down field? I get it. Cardinals run game, they

799
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: are banged up El Grande in the running back room.

800
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: How much if you diagnose the run game from last

801
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: season to this season, how much do you attribute to

802
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: no James Connor to mostly no Trey Benson to losing

803
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: to Mari de Mercado for example, And we all agree

804
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: on this. We talked about this. Whenever you don't have

805
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: Amri Demercato is your third down back, It's amazing how

806
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 2: often that surfaces as a liability in pass protection.

807
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: Right, yes, one hundred percent. Not having de Mercato out

808
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: there as your third down running back is noticeable. Not

809
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: a knock on the other running backs. Demercato is just

810
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 3: that good at a really tough job of a running back.

811
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: When you're trying to block a two hundred plus one

812
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty plus pound outside linebacker like an edge

813
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 3: rusher coming right at your face, trying to protect the quarterback,

814
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: that's not easy as a running back. I'm not able

815
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: to fully say that, you know, it's just because of

816
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: James or Tray Benson's injuries of this run game not

817
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: being close to where it was last year, because I'll

818
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 3: beat a small sample size when you had Connor healthy

819
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: to start the season, wasn't a hot start for the

820
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: run game. That was something that was really slow to

821
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 3: get going. And it's unfortunate back to back weeks this

822
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: team at it, but their starting running back on injured reserve,

823
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: and while Benson's practice window has been open with that

824
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: knee injury, he has not been activated off IR so

825
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: hasn't played a game in seven weeks. The thing is, though,

826
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: is it's more than just the running back. All of

827
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: it starts the line of scrimmage. Is you need all

828
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: five offensive linemen six if you've got jumbo package or

829
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: a block fight, you have to be on the same

830
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: page with communication, with the scheme, with blocking responsibilities, with execution,

831
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: clean discipline so you're not drawing a penalty. There's so

832
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: many things involved that it's not just the running back.

833
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: And you know, it's not fair to compare because it's

834
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: different players, it's different schemes, different coaches. But look around

835
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: the league at teams when they lose their top running back,

836
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: their run game doesn't necessarily falter because everything else is

837
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: in place. It is truly like, it's not just on

838
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: the backs of why this run game has been not

839
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: as efficient as it was last year.

840
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 4: Like Michael Wilson was talking about his success the other

841
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 4: day and he was talking about how it's not just me,

842
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 4: it's it's the play calling from the coaches. It's it's

843
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 4: the past protection. It's Jacoby playing well and getting me

844
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 4: the ball, and then I got to do my part,

845
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: and he said, he called it. He goes it's the

846
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: whole organism, And that made me think more of the

847
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 4: Running Game in a lot of ways. It's the organism

848
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 4: of the run Game, and like it's all kind of

849
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: have to be one giant Sell Sell working together, the

850
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 4: powerhouse on the Sell, the original, the original.

851
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: Leave it to the Stanford guy.

852
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 4: There you go. The original report for Imari Demurcata was

853
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 4: that he had a high ankle spring, so he's probably

854
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: probably going to miss another game, I would think, and

855
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 4: you don't. Bam Knight is. He's been dealing with an ankle.

856
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: He did go off late in the game, kind of

857
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 4: limping after a play. I'm assuming he kind of reaggravated that,

858
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: so we'll see where that is. Michael Carter got the

859
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 4: most reps at running back, but you're you're talking about

860
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: having Jamar Jefferson, who didn't play any offense the other day,

861
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 4: potentially being a backup running back depending on how Bam

862
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: Knight is. Like, I don't know if Trey Benson is

863
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: going to be in a place yet where this is

864
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: the game where he comes back. He's got to come

865
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: back this week or next in terms of at least

866
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: being on the roster. But I is that this week?

867
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

868
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: I mean, there was a moment in the first half

869
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: on the sudden I'm like, wait, who's this guy? And

870
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm looking, oh, Jamar Jefferson forty three. That's when you

871
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: know a position group has been hit hard by injury.

872
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 2: But all that being said, and Drew Petsing cited all

873
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: the above, he also included more movement up front. You

874
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: need more movement in the trenches. The old line needs

875
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: to push back the D line. The most simplistic key

876
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: to any football game. You just need to win more

877
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: often in the trenches and create more running lanes.

878
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 4: It'll be fascinating to me how that goes. I think,

879
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: I think this game, I mean, you can win in

880
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: a lot of different ways. But it's gonna be humid there.

881
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: It probably won't be super hot up with the humidity,

882
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be fun by the time you get

883
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 4: to the fourth quarter. You don't want the other team

884
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 4: to be able to grind out the game on the ground.

885
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 4: And we talked about with Bucky Irving. The Cardinals defense

886
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: are gonna have to make sure they get off the field.

887
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: And on offense, you're gonna want to make sure that

888
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: you try and tire out this Bucks defense if they're

889
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 4: already not pass rushing. Well anyways, if you can make

890
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: any kind of headway on the ground.

891
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: Pro tip, run away from Vitaveau rush. Do not run

892
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: straight at Vitavea. Who's listed at three forty seven and

893
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 2: Aq Shipley on game Plan this week and studio said, yeah,

894
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: that's maybe as a rookie, Yeah, that's right. Maybe going

895
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: into the combine, he was three forty seven. He hasn't

896
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: seen three forty seven since the combine?

897
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: What what is your threshold for being willing to run

898
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 4: at Vitavea? If you're Paul Calvic.

899
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: Darren, come on now all right?

900
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I know you were running back.

901
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 4: So should I do something?

902
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: You want me? Right here? I'll just leave athing You'll

903
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 2: have right do you want me to, You'll have blockers.

904
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: Let me sign up and testament you know way more.

905
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it's it's got to be life changing.

906
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: It's gotta be enough to cover every surgery that was.

907
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 4: Gonna be life changing. Cash for a life changing hit.

908
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: It's gotta be full health insurance the rest of my life.

909
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: That's what it's gotta be. Yeah, it's uh yeah, he's

910
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: he's a dude. Keep your eye on Vitavea. That's uh wow.

911
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're gonna have to do it. You have

912
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: to deal with Todd Bowles and the crazy schemes. He's

913
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 2: gonna dial up and stuff you haven't seen, and there's

914
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of unscouted stuff. So we'll see.

915
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: But when Jacoby Brissett is throwing at forty something times

916
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: fifty something times and he gets sacked six times and

917
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: he gets hit fifteen times, Okay, that's how sustainable is that?

918
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: So it's it's not a one at this point. It's

919
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: in need. You need to get more of a run

920
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: game going. Jonathan Gannon said it after the game. He

921
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: doubled down on it in his Monday press conference to

922
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: start this week. So, okay, what does that mean, especially

923
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: if you're down to one of five running backs? Then

924
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: what exactly does that mean? Do you have to go

925
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: with a different scheme entirely? Do you go with an

926
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: unscouted look? So Todd Bowles going, wait a minute. Where

927
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: did this run game come from? We haven't seen this

928
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: on on film at this point. At this point, it

929
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: might be that drastic you know, you might need to

930
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: take a drastic action like that.

931
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: My follow up is, you do you think they wouldn't

932
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 3: have already done that at this point? Right?

933
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. I mean, Jacksonville the number two ranked

934
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: run defense, Tampa's top ten, so it's not going to

935
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,479
Speaker 2: be much easier. Now the Tampa pass defense is bottom five, So.

936
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, secondary hasn't been stellar.

937
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: Once again, all this pregame analysis might go out the

938
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: window and jegoi resent my throw. So it's sixty times

939
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: on Sunday as far as we know, just based on

940
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 2: the metrics on Tampa's defense.

941
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson ten more.

942
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 2: Right, who was the guy on Friday WHOSJG? Well, Michael

943
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: Wilson will never see eighteen targets again? And then JG

944
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: cut off that interviewer and said, well you sure about that?

945
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: And he got fifteen targets in this last game. And

946
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: now the guy who asked that question last Friday might

947
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: continue to look bad, sort of like the wise Guy

948
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: segment week after week. So it could have been there's truly.

949
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 2: So okay, there we go, speaking of on the run

950
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: cross country one night to Tampa. Why is this significant, Darren?

951
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: Why did it make the rundown?

952
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 4: Well, it really only made the rundown that because I

953
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 4: wanted to get to the Tampa game. But you were

954
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: all over Tampa from the get go. So we can

955
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 4: move on to Larry Fit.

956
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: For our long flight. How do you stay entertained?

957
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 4: That's a good question.

958
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: Are you going to wear your compression socks just me

959
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: prevent blood clots?

960
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: Is that a concern really?

961
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 2: Standing really in the eighteen to thirty four demo blood

962
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: clots consideration? Really?

963
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: You know, I just wanted to stay for the record

964
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: ten and three and picks this week. Okay, I'm now

965
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: one ten and fifty six. Paul, you also won ten

966
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 4: and three. Yeah, you're at one O, six and sixty,

967
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 4: So there's still four games behind me, Danny, ten and

968
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 4: nine and four, Sorry, nine and four, you fall two

969
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: games behind it.

970
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: I just can't. I can't pick up any games.

971
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 4: Well, you should have picked up one because I picked

972
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 4: the Cowboys and you should have picked up one on

973
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: me and the Cowboys somehow won that game.

974
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't let my dad hear that I picked the Eagles.

975
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 4: Hmmm, your dad doesn't listen to this.

976
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: No, tell you what before we get to Larry, because

977
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: we'll say that as a big finish. You know what,

978
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: Let's get some winning behavior. How about it.

979
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 4: That's that works for me.

980
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 2: Can you display winning behavior?

981
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: You have to consistently display winning behavior.

982
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: That's winning behavior.

983
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 3: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold

984
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: people to that standard.

985
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Yes, speaking of the Hall of Fame, Jacoby Brissette is represented,

986
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: and I thought that was kind of cool.

987
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: After he'd set the NFL record for completions against the

988
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers two weeks ago, forty seven Can't reached

989
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 4: out to Mark Dalton here, the vice president senior vice

990
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 4: president of meet relations, and asked if it was possible

991
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: to get Jacoby's jersey from the game, and they were

992
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: gonna put it on display. And I thought to myself,

993
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 4: you know, that's pretty cool, because, let's face it, Jacoby

994
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: Brissett probably is gonna have a hard time getting into

995
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 4: Canton any other way, and for him to have an

996
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 4: accomplishment that's worthy of something like that, I think that's excellent.

997
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: And I know, look, I know it came in a

998
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 4: loss and not a great loss. I know this hasn't

999
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: been a great season for the Cardinals, but these are

1000
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 4: the kinds of things I think about. I'm like, you know,

1001
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett's played a lot of football, He's been a

1002
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 4: lot of different teams. You know, this is if you're

1003
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: gonna lose the game anyways, to have something come out

1004
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: of it like this, I just think it's cool for

1005
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: him for his kids to see one day. I just

1006
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 4: I think it's a cool thing maybe.

1007
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: For us to see in a couple of months. I

1008
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: don't know, we're all it happened to be in canon

1009
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: or another I.

1010
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: See what you're saying.

1011
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's very good.

1012
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: Here's the winning behavior that I'm going off the sheet?

1013
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: Did you see this? Yesterday? It was revealed that three

1014
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 2: brothers were going through their late mother's attic and they

1015
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: unearthed a copy of the first Superman comic issue who

1016
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: was graded nine out of ten pristine condition, and it

1017
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 2: just fetched nine point two million dollars at auction. They

1018
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: found it in the attic. Mom had preserved Superman number one,

1019
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: the original comic.

1020
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 4: Is Mom no longer with him?

1021
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 2: No longer with them? They were cleaning out her house,

1022
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: and apparently as soon as they start contacting people in

1023
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: the industry, people flew in on the next flight just

1024
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: to witness it. That's how big a deal it was,

1025
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 2: because they're like, Okay, this can't be true. Sure enough,

1026
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: it was legit.

1027
00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

1028
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty cool.

1029
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 4: That's incredible winning behavior by mom.

1030
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: Yes it was.

1031
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: And the kids not just throwing everything.

1032
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 4: Saving the comic part, I mean the other part.

1033
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, look through every box.

1034
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't moms, don't throw away the baseball cards.

1035
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: Please don't throw away the beanie babies.

1036
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: Anyways, what about the Pokemon? Didn't you have a josh

1037
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: sweat in the Pokemon cards?

1038
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 4: Right?

1039
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 3: Yes, you know. I used to collect them when I

1040
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: was in kindergarten. I didn't know what they meant, so

1041
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 3: that I didn't really yeah, Pokemon cards, but I didn't

1042
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: know what they meant, and so then I didn't keep them.

1043
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if they were with anything.

1044
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: I marked a winning behavior, a literal winning behavior from

1045
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 4: Shudur Sanders Oh Boy, who is the forty second quarterback

1046
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: to start for the Browns since nineteen ninety nine. He

1047
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 4: is the first Cleveland quarterback to win his first NFL

1048
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 4: start since Eric Zaire in nineteen ninety five, snapping a

1049
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: seventeen game losing streak for the Browns in games with

1050
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 4: a quarterback making his first career start. And all I

1051
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: could think of is, you've had seventeen quarterbacks that have

1052
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 4: never started a game at quarter back except when they

1053
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 4: played for you. You've either drafted him or brought him in,

1054
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 4: Like goodness, gracious.

1055
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: We talk about WTF? What the football? I mean, forty

1056
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: two different starting quarterbacks since nineteen ninety nine, in the

1057
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: first seventeen to start their first game were over. Really

1058
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: that's staggering.

1059
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: Okay, but it is Cleveland. Yeah, so not really?

1060
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 4: Well, that's winning behavior. Non winning behavior. Is Lane Kiffin, okay,

1061
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 4: dragging out his future saying he'll announce what happens after

1062
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 4: they play the Egg Bowl against Mississippi State this weekend.

1063
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: College football boy, so broken in so many different ways.

1064
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 3: I'm a going to wait for the season end.

1065
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 4: That's the whole. There was a thing at at one

1066
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 4: point that it was going to come out before the

1067
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 4: Mississippi State game, and they managed to get him to

1068
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 4: stop doing that. I don't I don't know what's gonna happen,

1069
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: but it sure doesn't feel like he's gonna end up

1070
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 4: saying I'm staying at Mississippi.

1071
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: Man, what a way to make a boatload of money

1072
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 3: is just coach college football. Even if you're not that good,

1073
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: you're still gonna get paid.

1074
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: So this last one we have to advance. Talk about

1075
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: batting clean up?

1076
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? Really?

1077
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So a woman in Thailand, what.

1078
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: Wakes up in a coffin after bringing being brought in

1079
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 4: for cremation, which, by the way, I would like to

1080
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 4: take major umbrage with the idea of wakes up in coffin.

1081
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: That makes it sound like she was taking a nap.

1082
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 4: If you're in the coffin, the only nap you're taking

1083
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 4: is a dirt nap. So like that's not just waking

1084
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 4: up like that. That's first of all, like you've.

1085
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: Never taken a dirt nap after a fraternity party at

1086
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: ASU back in your day.

1087
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 4: God, I hope not. You're talking to a ghost, buddy.

1088
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 4: What's worse being burned alive to die or being buried

1089
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 4: alive to die?

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Speaker 2: She was going to be both, all right, uncomfortable not.

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Speaker 4: Winning behavior, So I mean bringing us back, Paul?

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Speaker 2: Okay, No, what was the what was the high leverage moment,

1093
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: was there sort of a knocking from the inside out

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00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: of the coffin? I mean, you know what point was

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00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: there a realization.

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Speaker 4: That I don't know?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So here we go, don't know what the segue

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00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: is out of that into the Hall of Fame and

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00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald.

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00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald very much alive.

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00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: There's a there might be a comparison to an extra

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00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: preseason game, but we won't go there. H Larry Fitzgerald

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00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 2: is now tracking and then some for the Hall of Fame.

1104
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: As the final twenty six are announced, and let's face it,

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00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: come on, Fits and Drew Brees slam dunks? Can we

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00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: say slam dunk?

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Speaker 4: Okay, we've had this discussion before they're two to twenty five.

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00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 4: It'll be paired down to fifteen before we get to

1109
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 4: Super Bowl Week. Then during Superwl week it'll go from

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00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: fifteen to seven. The final seven will get voted on. However,

1111
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 4: to get in you have to you can a voter

1112
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 4: can only vote for five of those seven, and you

1113
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 4: have to get eighty percent of the vote. So and

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00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,959
Speaker 4: these are new rules starting last year. So again it's

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00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: not a given that.

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00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: Fits well, well, look you have to take four. There's

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00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: at least four have to be elected. There were only

1118
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: four last year, which was the smallest class in two decades.

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00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 4: Actually is at four to three.

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Speaker 2: It is it's four between four and eight. And now

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00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: in that final fifteen, which will be determined by Super

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00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 2: Bowl Week, four players have already been guaranteed spots based

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00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 2: on the fact they made it to the final seven

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00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: last year. I'm looking at it right here. Willie Anderson

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00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 2: won't make it, Tory Holt won't make it, Luke Keikley

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00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 2: will make it. Adam Vinettieri won't make it. So that's

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00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: just yours truly giving you the THEA. So those are

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Speaker 2: all in the automatic.

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Speaker 4: Automat fifteen, thenther twenty six, you got to get eleven more.

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Speaker 4: Do I think Breeze is the first timer gets in? Yes?

1131
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 4: Do I think Fits is the first time he gets in?

1132
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 4: And when I say gets in, I mean the fifteen. Yes,

1133
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 4: I do think Breeze and Fits are going to make

1134
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 4: it in.

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00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: But like I mean, if you have to take four,

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00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: who who are who are three other players you would take?

1137
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: If Breeze is in, what are three other players you're

1138
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: gonna take? Before Larry Fitzgerald. But if you have to

1139
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 2: take at least four.

1140
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 4: But you're you're, you're, You're looking at it like everybody

1141
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 4: is on an even plane, whereas some of these voters

1142
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 4: might be saying, you know what, I've been kind of

1143
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 4: holding off on this player. This is FITs' first time here.

1144
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 4: I'll put him in next year, Okay, you again. One

1145
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 4: of the things, one of the one of the things

1146
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say about the Hall of Fame, which I

1147
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: agree with, is every year, what's gonna happen is there's

1148
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 4: a class and then everybody says, oh my god, X

1149
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 4: didn't get in. How did X not get in? And

1150
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 4: then the argument is who are you taking out from

1151
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 4: that class to put in. Now I'm not saying Fits

1152
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily rank over those guys, but I will say this,

1153
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 4: It used to be when Jerry Rice went in, the

1154
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 4: guy presenting him basically stood up and said Jerry Rice

1155
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 4: and then sat back down. There was no presentation because

1156
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 4: you didn't need to. Once upon a time, I think

1157
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 4: you could have done that. Kent Summers is the Arizona

1158
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 4: voter and presenter for Cardinals. I think Kent, once upon

1159
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 4: a time could have stood up and said Larry Fitzgerald.

1160
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 4: Enough said, sit down. I think you probably at least

1161
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: have to make a little effort here.

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00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: Well maybe it's maybe the extra effort. Is larryfitzgerial dot

1163
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 2: dot dot second to Jerry Rice in every category, Then

1164
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: sit down, Ken, that's what you do.

1165
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Speaker 4: And that may very well be true. But unlike Jerry Rice,

1166
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Speaker 4: who won a bunch of Super Bowls, Larry didn't win

1167
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: any super Bowls. And so there is and I'm not

1168
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 4: saying it's right, but there is an argument. Okay, what

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00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 4: did his teams accomplish in all those doing all those things?

1170
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: I guess I'm reverse engineering it. So if you take

1171
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: the returning finalists, which one of these guys would you

1172
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: put ahead of Larry Fitzgerald Eli Manning, No, Steve Smith

1173
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: senior at the same position, No T Sizzle, Terrell Suggs,

1174
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 2: I mean former NFL Defensive Player of the Year, he's

1175
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: got a case. Darren Woodson another former issue guy nice,

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00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean, great player, but not ahead of Larry Fitzgerald

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Speaker 2: in Hall of Fame consideration. So anyway, I will see.

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Speaker 4: You're not going to get a disagreement for me. I'm

1179
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 4: not gonna put anybody over fits, But.

1180
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: You're right, and the national perspective might be a lot

1181
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 2: different than those of us here in Arizona. But once again,

1182
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: prepare yourself next season for the extra preseason game and

1183
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: a trip to Canton, Ohio, yep.

1184
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 3: Ohio in August.

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00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 4: Having been to a couple of Hall of Fame inductions,

1186
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 4: bring a pair of shorts and be ready to sweat.

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00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: So the last time we were there, it was late,

1188
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 2: it was middle of the fourth quarter, and there's somebody

1189
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: kicking into the kicking net on the sideline and I'm like, well,

1190
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: it's definitely not the Cardinals kicker because I can see

1191
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 2: him down at the other end. Who's behind me kicking

1192
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: into the net? I turn around. It's Lawrence Taylor with

1193
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: a stogy in one hand and a beverage in the other,

1194
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 2: and he was working on his short kicking game.

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Speaker 4: It's laid back in the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 2: If you're wearing a gold jacket, you go wherever you

1197
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 2: wanted to go, even on game day on the field.

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Speaker 2: So there you go, it's go to have a gold jacket.

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Speaker 3: Paul, what are you cooking for Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: Good question? What am I outsourcing?

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00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 3: Is? That?

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00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: Is that? The question Uh, well, first have to mentally

1203
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: recover from the parade, and then after we get back,

1204
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: get back from that, and and then I'm not naming

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Speaker 2: names on the and the Lord you still have.

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Speaker 4: To do parades even though your kids are like in

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Speaker 4: high school.

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00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: I told you I'm going to get just like I

1209
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: get dragged on this podcast. I'm gonna get dragged out

1210
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: to the parade. That's that's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you have your car in the parade?

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00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: You know my teenage punk made that comment, and now

1213
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: that I now that it is no longer has a

1214
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: carburetor issue, it might be a viable candidate for that.

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00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: You're right, I probably should have go off my keyster

1216
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: and volunteered because at least it would be clan and detailed,

1217
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: as opposed to a lot of them that are in

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: the parade.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's been a lot of rain lately.

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Speaker 3: So wait, what are you making for Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: I really have no idea. It's not my department.

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00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: Okay, you're just showing Danny.

1223
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: What uh you know? Green bean Castle? Have you have

1224
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: you evolved it from year to year? You know? What

1225
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: is the status? A little status check on the green

1226
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: bean castle.

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Speaker 3: I am a self aware queen. I understand that not

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00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 3: everybody likes green bean castrole. So when I am generously

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Speaker 3: included and my friend's family Thanksgivings is I can't go

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00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: home with work. I'm not going to bring green bean

1231
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 3: castrole because I know people don't like it. So I've

1232
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 3: been told to make dessert. So that's what I'm going

1233
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: to do. My family will be making a consuming plenty

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Speaker 3: of green bean castrole form.

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Speaker 4: There a male sum to Danny.

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Speaker 2: I wish, okay, yeah, that would be good. Uber eats.

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Speaker 3: Staren's in charge of the whole Thanksgiving at his house.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm making, Paul Love.

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00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: Oh my okay.

1240
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: Oh apparently behind the glass stad.

1241
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 4: They don't know that we're preparing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that'll do it for this edition of Cardinals

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