WEBVTT - REWIND: WEEZY WTF - Gourmet Mac N Cheese 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.400 Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.120 I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have a 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:13.560 very special TV host, entrepreneur podcaster that Beach exactly very 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.200 special guests I do. We just have to end up 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.000 bleeping them out for sol. Do you beleeve about your 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:18.680 social song? 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:20.800 No? Sorry, well I heard it. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:22.320 It messes with the algorithms. 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:23.800 Oh that's probably true. 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:42.400 Maybe that's why we haven't. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.000 Weezy is from Horrible Decisions. She also has a TV 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:57.200 show called Sex Cells, and she is an entrepreneur. She 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.640 owns podcast recording studios in New York. And am I 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:01.480 missing a market? 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.440 Not yet? If you recorded me in two months, you would. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:09.680 Me okay hopefully Alana and I real know, okay, okay, 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.319 but I'm really excited to have Weezy. I met you 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.720 probably over a year ago, and literally like, I just 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.280 I love everything you're about and I plan to take notes. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.399 Oh okay, but what do you have us eating as 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:24.600 your broke dish today? 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.839 Well, my broke dish today is gourmet maca cheese because 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.360 I feel like, well, gourmet meat and macajeese. I don't 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.679 like to say hot dogs. It sounds cheap. And the 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.800 meal is cheap. But like when broke, I was like, 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.280 I need to feel full fast, and I always thought 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.399 that was like a protein and carbs, and so hot 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.360 dogs and macaroni and cheese like the easiest thing, even 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.760 though by itself, I feel like it tastes like shit. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.280 So I just tried to dress it up what I had. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.480 Yeah, I saw that. I saw these extra ingredients, and 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.800 I didn't know which direction your meal was going. So 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.280 for our listeners, can you say what is in the 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:00.880 gourmet met cheese? 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.840 So I'm gonna be real with you. Allive oil is 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.480 very expensive when your road, like this is what eight 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.359 dollars for this? Maybe ten? 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:09.040 Probably? 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.760 Yeah, So I would use criscal but virgin olive oil. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.640 Lorry I don't know how to say his name, but 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.760 Tony Shierrakus, I just call it Tony seasoning, Tony creole. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.760 So we have the mixing bowls. I don't know why. 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:26.919 Oh I thought you were gonna drain the mac and 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:27.799 cheese water. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.399 Oh yeah, I didn't even have a bad I didn't 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:34.160 have a what's it called. I would take the top, 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:34.760 pour it out. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.880 Okay, we usually do that on the show. By the way, 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:39.960 this is just a fruit strainer. But go on, what's 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:40.760 the ingredients. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.600 I like Nathan's. I'm not sure why. Hebrew National wasn't 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.480 my thing, but Nathan's was like the skinny ones. Like Nathan's, 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.240 We've got the cutting board and the knife so that 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.680 you can slice up the hot dogs, onions, butter and milk. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.840 Awesome. Now it's funny because I've done mac and cheese before. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.000 In my greatest accomplishment was adding tuna to the mac 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:07.680 and cheese. Okay, but I am excited. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.800 Because there's so much don't go together. So I think 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.560 it's lostter mac and cheese and that's it. 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.440 Hey, I was broke. I didn't. I don't even know there, 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:20.160 you know. But but no, I'm excited because this is 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.680 my first time ever in the history of living on 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.800 this earth having gourmet mac and cheese. And it's really cool. 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:28.360 You know what I actually put in myra? 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.160 Look you getting all hyped into it? What what? 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.600 Okay? Now that I'm getting money when I make gromet 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.680 mac and cheese for overall, I put like five different 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.280 type of cheeses in it, and I put a little 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:42.440 bit of beer whenever I Yes, I can't remember where 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.400 I learned about the beer from but it's something about 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.200 the yeast and the beer. Oh my god, you can 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.080 taste it. It's so good. Beer costs extra money, so 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:50.400 I felt like I shouldn't added that. 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.920 No, no, but that's your But you now that you 0:03:54.000 --> 0:04:00.240 make money, you actually do to still a twist the 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:01.120 gourmet maca cheer. 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.480 Oh yeah, you're hilarious. My mom hates it. She's like, 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.120 this is so ridiculous because every Thanksgiving we have hers, 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.520 which is classic bag mac burn at the top, and 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:10.839 then mine is the bougie back. 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.480 And you're mixed, right, So is your mom black? 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.600 My mom is black and my dad's is really okay, 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.320 maybe it should be Hebrew national. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.560 You're hilarious. My dad is Jewish and my mom is Jamaican. 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.560 So I have the same black and white mix because 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.799 I never ever meet it where the mom is black 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.200 and the dad is white. Whenever I see someone like that, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.760 I'm like, hey, that's crazy, all right. 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:35.240 You always see the other PEO was like, you're like 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:36.679 black and Jewish. You're like Drake. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.200 Well, it used to be Lenny was the big thing 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:41.880 back in the day. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.080 People don't know who nothing you not, these young kids. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.360 But all right, weezy. So I am dying to try 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.640 this gourmet mac, so come away. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:51.599 It's not gonna be good. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.520 Why you say that, because think about. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.480 The stuff we eat today. I mean, you eat shitty 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:58.359 meals all the time. 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.560 With Oh let me tell you. I'm getting to the 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.600 point where I'm gonna start rating it. And I've been 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:07.920 because I've been pretty nice. Someone made tuna castrole. It's 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.719 gonna get me caught up. But this it was literally 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:15.520 it's tuna castrole and the pickled egg is the worst 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.680 dish for me on the on the shelf. If people 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.160 said the worst pickled egg? 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.240 Have you had a pickled egg? I thought casseroles are 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.840 for Caucasians. And this is the Black Black Network. It was. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:29.719 It was two black sisters that owned a all black 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:34.120 owned store that carries all black owned and they made 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:38.000 a tuna castrole and it was absolutely that's terrible. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.560 Putting the olive oil in the pan for the onions 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:45.679 because I like it to caramelize, okay, okay, but also 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.520 I'm gonna boil the hot dogs, start boiling the macacheese. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.960 And while that's boiling, that's where I'd just be trying 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.960 to get the flavor with the onions and Shita tastes 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.520 like extra. Yeah. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.200 I just learned the other day that some people seasoned 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.080 the onions. Are you one of those people? 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:06.400 No? Am I Karen? Now it was? 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:07.520 It was a black girl. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.239 Damn, I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I expect 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:11.880 her to be black. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.000 You said you're a carot. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.320 You want to know something that's just too black? My mom, 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.000 every time she watches my dog, won't feed the dog 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.720 dog food. It's only like chicken, right, And I was like, Mom, 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.120 why is that chicken color different? Oh well, it has 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.760 a little garlic powder and just a little season on it. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.120 She seas in the dog's foods, there's too bland, no way, 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:39.800 And every time I got the dog be peen out 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.560 of its ask. Actually, there's a very special day and 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.680 week for me. By the way, my parents, I moved 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.600 them to LA, so they're flying to night. 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.360 You moved them. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.840 They live in Orlando, so literally I'm New York Orlando, LA. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.480 And I was like, I can't do this triangle. It's 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.520 got to be one back and forth, okay. So I 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.359 just wanted them closer to me, so that that, to 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.320 me was like a big life goal. That's summer Orlando. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.000 First of all, that's a yeah, because it would have 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.359 been cheaper to move from LA to Orlando. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.960 You moved them to a more expensive market. I want 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.560 them to be closer to me. This is where all 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.720 my work is happening. And like, yeah, I mean, Orlando's 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:21.560 where I'm from. So it was any day go on 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.840 my birthday this year, I went to suspend it with 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.520 my father. My dad, he's in a wheelchair, so it's 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.200 a lot more difficult for him to visit me like 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.080 my mom does. People probably see my mom all over 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.920 my content. But my dad was like, damn, I wish 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.360 I could watch TV with you all the time. I 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.440 wish we could have these moments together, Like I wish 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.280 I could be in LA with you and your mom. 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.400 And I was like, well, shit, you guys could be there, 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.400 And so yeah, I mean to me, it's crazy to 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.560 make this meal today. I actually walked by a T 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.360 Mobile store, which was my last job, to walk by 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:51.840 a T Mobile store making the meal. I made it 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:53.800 when I was broken. I'm literally able to afford to 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.880 move my parents here, but who knows, maybe they gonna 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.120 spend so much money I'm gonna have to eat this 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:57.560 shit again. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:02.400 No, no, but you're making like really big moves. I was. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.800 I'm so excited about having this conversation with you because 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:11.000 knowing that you came from Brokeness and seeing like you're 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:15.640 making like chess moves you like effortlessly. So when I 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.000 say like, I'm pulling out the pen, like, I've been 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.400 working for myself for a long time, but I definitely 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.040 don't make the type of money that I need to make. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.760 I'm still in the Jamaican like two thousand here, five 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:31.440 thousand here, three thousand here equals twelve thousand. You know 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.720 what I'm saying. But I'm not at the point where 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:38.000 I'm playing chess. So I'm literally excited about this episode 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.200 because we're all about to get took to school, you, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.480 I hope. So yeah, So I hope I do the 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.280 due deal with just tell us what was going on 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.760 when you were making Gourmet mac and Cheese, the original, 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:53.520 So I'll tell you this, coming from Brokeness was something 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:55.280 that I thought you were gonna put the Sorry. I 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.120 thought you were going to do the smaller pan for 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:58.959 the hot dogs, and I had your pan for. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.560 That wild first. I don't know if you're gonna. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.520 Boil him in the mac and cheese. 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.040 This is the mac and cheese potting. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.640 No, it was the other because that pot small. I 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.120 love you. I'm making my own Okay, I'm staying out 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:12.640 of the kitchen. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:13.400 Said you're gonna take. 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.200 Just so you know, every time I get involved in 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.959 the kitchen, I burned someone's dish. So I need to 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:20.840 stay in my life. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.439 Okay, okay, made me feel better. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.800 Yeah, because I've been burning stuff on people's own meals, 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.720 all right, So so tell me what was going on? Sorry. 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.920 So I actually grew up with money and there was 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.720 a stock market crash that happened that lost my parents 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.160 some money, and then my dad ended up having a 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:43.640 stroke that kept him out of work. And so after that, 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.959 I ended up dating a guy. It was just like 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.840 rich boyfriend that was paying for my school and then 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.679 he was very abusive. Broke up with him and then 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.720 that stopped. My parents couldn't really afford to college. I 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.400 had to help them out because my dad had the stroke. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.640 So started work at the mall White House black market 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.400 clothing stores like a hand tailor. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.000 Bike Yeah, yeah, a little bit high play, yeah, high class, 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.760 that's my first I did. Did you steal anything from them, 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:10.480 like a few things. 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.040 Ok. Good, good, But then I realized once I had 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.079 to stop, I wasn't like stealing for real, for real, Okay, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.240 it was just a little shit. And then one day 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:19.679 I wore something to work and she was like, I 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.840 didn't know you got that dress. And I was like, ah. 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.000 The craziest thing was I went to jail. I ended 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.640 up having it was for my license. Everybody thinks it 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.600 was something worse. It was for my license, and I 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:35.000 had a GPS monitor on my foot, and so I 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.320 had to always wear Maxi dresses to work, or like 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:39.800 super big boots to go. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:41.959 You got one of those ankle monitors? 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.320 Yes, no way, all working at my house like Marky. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.360 It was terrible. So then I think I was helping 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.400 a woman that worked at a T mobile store and 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.240 I was selling her mad shit. She's like, you're really 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.320 good at sales. How much she's making here. I don't 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.000 remember what it was, fucking ten dollars an hour, but 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:56.400 my commission would be good, so it'd be up to 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.440 twenty or thirty. And she was like, I can make 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.720 you double a tea mobile with the way you sell. Oh. 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.160 Now I knew nothing about cel phone. She's like, you 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.800 don't have to just have to be cute. It's funny 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:07.319 because I went on a date the other day, this 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.000 nigga said, you look like a bitch. She used to 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.720 work its emobile. I used to tie my little shirt 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.199 up like this and be like, what kind of fun 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:17.680 y'all want? I was gonna sell it to all the 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.440 top niggas, the prepaid lines in the box, because you 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.360 weren't supposed to legally sell them a new number every month. Oh, 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.880 so niggas would come in. I just fucking keeps wiping 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.960 the shit whatever. So ended up being so good at 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.520 T mobile selling shit. I think my first year working there, 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.520 I was like twenty two twenty three. I made like 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.040 ninety thousand dollars. Get the heck out crazy. They don't 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.880 pay it over that way no more. Yeah, but like 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.040 I was selling selling something. The iPhone was hot back then, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:48.560 and it just came out and literally was fucking flying 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.080 to Europe, just like experiencing life. Living life still had 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.200 a shitty car with windows, didn't go down, But I 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.000 just spent all my money and experiences, and what I 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.160 realized from those experiences, like, oh I got to get 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.160 more and more and more. Every time you taste a 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.000 little bit of luxury, now you need more and more 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.600 and more, you know. So from there, ended up training 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.960 T Mobile staff in Florida. Then I ended up managing 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:11.640 a store, and then they moved me to New York 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:15.480 to work in corporate. And now not saying I couldn't 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:16.679 have made it to New York alone, but I did 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.000 have a sugar daddy then, okay, And so he was. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.720 Like a legit sugar daddy, like what you envisioned in 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.880 the movies, Like he wasn't that hot, and he had paper. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:26.959 Oh he made paper. Oh yeah, like some bitches have 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.439 a sugar daddy. I he had a plane. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.320 He had he had a plane. Yes, Oh he was 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:32.199 like legit. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:33.680 Okay, Oh my god. He was so rich. And I 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.160 met him working in with the fucking T mobile. He 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.160 came in. He had like three hundred lines for his 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.440 company and he was like, I'm with Rise and Da 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.200 Da da, but his daughter wanted something that was only 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:43.839 a T mobile. I was like, why don't you move 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.000 your lines over? And he's like, honey, I don't do 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.920 T Mobile Like this is that's very So I think 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:50.599 I saved him, like twenty five grand a month, and 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.880 he said he was gonna give me a gift and 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.320 I told him. He's like, what are you doing this week? 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.199 I was like, I'm gonna go see Beyonce Miami. He 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:58.120 was the Formation tour. 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:58.480 Okay. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:12:59.599 He's like, how are you gonna get there? I'm like 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.080 Gonadry with my friends. He's like, take my jet, and 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:04.720 I remember my friend's like, oh I got you gotta 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.320 suck that owd man. We got on that jet and 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.560 it was like, bitch, I'll suck a thick Joe. And 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.320 so that was like my first entry into whole ho 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.920 ho she okay, okay, got me this insane apartment in 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.079 New York. It was like, wait he was doing that too, 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.880 oh yeah, saying when he knew I was gonna leave Orlando, 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.360 He's like, sweetie, I can't have you leave me. I 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.200 was thinking about getting a place in New York. Anyway. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.400 He's like, where were you gonna move? I was like Manhattan. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:31.640 He goes that means Harlem, which was true. So I 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.160 was Midtown fifty fourth and eighth. And it's so funny 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.920 because my mom came to visit me and the address 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.160 was two sixty West fifty fourth or two sixty spy. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.560 My mom got to my apartment, she goes, oh my god, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.319 it's Tudio fifty four is right there. She's like, that's 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.440 where I was going. That's where I was meeting these 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.400 rich guys. You're turning into me. She was so proud 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.959 of me. And I think, what's funny is my mom 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:55.000 always wanted me to. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.160 Be with such a good personality. Could don't wear your personality? 0:13:58.200 --> 0:13:59.920 Okay, my mom always wanted me to be with a 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:01.840 rich guy. I always wanted me to be taken care of. 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.040 And like, it's so crazy because now I'm the rich guy. Yea, 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.520 you know. And I don't think she expected it, but 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.679 it's just amazing. Like I never thought i'd get here. 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.679 I always kind of thought and she would say to me, 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.559 you're gonna get married, You're gonna have a big house, 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:17.960 and you're gonna move me and your dad in the 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.560 guest house. It's gonna be so great. And like literally 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.600 I'm moving them into a place down the street from me. 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.040 Yeah, without an e. But how does it not that 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.800 I also say that now you're the rich guy, like 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.880 when you do you this obviously is in the first 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.560 time you said, it is it? When did you have 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.560 the epiphany that you were the rich guy? I damn, 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.640 that's a good feeling. I can't wait to have that feeling. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.760 It was, It wasn't the first time I felt that was. 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.600 I was in Paris with my mom and I took 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.040 her for a birthday and I wanted to fly her 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.080 first class. But I use like an upgrade to be 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.880 getting points then, you know, because like first class time 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.640 me like ten fifteen thousand for them lay down. And 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:56.920 when we got there, we get to the hotel and 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.480 it was really nice and she's like, oh, what's our room? Like, oh, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.120 her room? Like we have two separate rooms and every 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.120 little thing. My mom was starting to count in her head, 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:05.320 like how much was my daughter making? 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:06.240 Yeah, she said, we. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.560 Got our own rooms. Okay. Then we go to the store. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.240 I'm like, you want something, I'll just get a lipstick. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:12.760 I'm like, no, Mom, you can get more. You can 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:13.480 get a bag o. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.280 Your mom was like, what the break is happening? 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.920 She was bugging out. And then we walk outside of 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.240 the protest store and there's a hotel very famous called 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.480 the Plaza at My mom was telling me how princes 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.360 would take her to dinner there when she was young, 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.080 and she would meet all these guys when she was 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:29.800 traveling in Europe and this was like the place to go. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:31.480 I was like, oh, do you want to have dinner there? 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:33.920 And that was when it hit my mom. She got 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.120 really emotional and she's like, I cannot fucking believe I'm 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.760 doing this with you. My mom is seventy seventieth birthday 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:40.320 at the time. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.680 Oh, you said stay out the lane, so I'm staying. 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.240 I'm watching it. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.240 I get cooked for her now. Yo. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.000 You ain't been in the kitchen in a while. 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:53.320 I cooked this morning. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.240 Yo, I'm sorry. You told me that. You told me 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.640 to stay out the kitchen, and we almost about to 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.600 burn down the whole. I don't even know if you 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.440 don't read on there to be on. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.600 The wood part, No, I can't. I was looking for 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.880 another contract. Okay, I'll move it to this one. The 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.120 ale I tried to I love it, No, but it was. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.480 It was beautiful because my mom really was just so 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:18.040 excited for me, so proud of me. I do remember, 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.160 you know, we still niggas at the end of the day, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.160 Like we sitting here with these fucking Louis bags and 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.400 all these expensive shopping bags and literally my mom orders 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.320 a drink. She looks at the men. She said, oh shit, 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.400 that was forty three dollars. She was let me sip slow. 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.600 But it's really great because for me, like I don't 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.240 have kids yet, so like spoiling my parents just it's 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:38.040 like dream come true. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:39.800 Shit for me, I can only imagine. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.440 I really really have wanted this for myself my life, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.160 and like I love doing it for my mom. My 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.840 mom thinks I'm Beyonce. Like if we walk into a 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.800 place and can't get in, like you don't know how 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:54.920 my daughter is called Charlemagne. It's just my mom is 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.320 like my daughter's on TV and they're like, really, what anfuse? 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.000 But yeah, I mean I feel really proud to do that. 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.399 Hell yeah, and they come tonight. This is a big 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:07.280 freaking deal. 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:09.560 She's gonna get her nerves well. 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:11.920 And luckily you moved it right down the street. I did. 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:13.680 So my mom wanted to get rid of her car. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.320 She was like, I think I'm getting old. She had 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.080 a little moment. We were looking for her apartment and 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.280 she saw me parallel park. She started crying. I'm like, 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.359 what's wrong with you? She's like I'm older than I thought. 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:25.760 I don't know if I can do this shit. I 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:27.960 gotta get rid of my car, like I'm an old lady. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.520 What if I hit somebody? Thought? And so we sold 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.960 her car. And I'm a little nervous because you know, 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.359 parents don't want to give up too much of their autonomy. 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.240 They need to be able to do shit for themselves. 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.680 So you know, I hope she can't moved her in 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.240 a walkable neighborhood. She'll figure it out. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:44.720 Yeah, And then now are they still together? So he's 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:45.920 when does your dad come? 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.440 It is? So my dad comes in tonight. He's just 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.080 like as a hospital visit, and it's a little more 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:56.159 extensive when someone's like fully in a wheelchair. So I 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:57.760 wanted my mom to have a few days to herself. 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.520 I'll take care of my dad and then you know, okay, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.280 in a lot of shit they've lived there forever. Okay, Okay, 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:03.800 so yeah, it's a big deal. 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.480 So let's talk about go back to your broke story, okay, 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.879 because I want to know how this elevation because it 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.120 seems like somewhere around your elevation that was like a 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:14.000 speed track. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.000 So the broke missus The brokest I think I'd been 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.440 was when I left the abusive X. Right. He only 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:25.159 let me keep barely the clothes that I had that 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.840 I had when I like got with him. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.159 Are we talking like emotional or physical abuse? 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.760 Physical and emotional? He was crazy. I mean, I don't 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:34.480 know how dark you can get on the show. But like, 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.159 I didn't even know it was bad because I just 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.480 kind of thought when a man is paying for things 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:45.400 for you, like you deal with a little bit of something, right, Yeah, 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.639 And so to me, if you never close your fist, 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.159 I thought that was fine. I never realized how the 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.320 steps of you know, physical violence can be. 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:54.959 Yeah. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.600 So when I left him, he didn't give me anything. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.480 It was really tough. I mean, mind you, I went 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.240 from when I was a kid having a driver drive 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.800 me to school that's how my parents were, to like 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.760 literally figuring out what I was gonna do with the 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:12.399 last bottles, right, So it was really tough. And I 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.320 couldn't ask my parents for anything, didn't want to tell 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.200 them how bad it was. Yeah, you know, so when 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:17.639 I moved, he. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:19.840 Didn't want to tell them because they were already struggling. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.359 Yeah. And then I can't imagine how my mom would feel. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.000 She's like, oh my god, was like excited about you 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:25.120 having this rich boyfriend? 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:26.760 Yeah, oh yeah, you know. 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.000 So ended up finding a place, I think it was 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.360 seven hundred a month, split the rent with a homegirls, 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.600 a two bedroom in Orlando. He was right by Walmart, 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.399 thank god, because that's where I was buying all the 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.119 fucking hot dogs, the mac and cheese. Wrong, but my 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.879 number one broke thing I would do. So I used 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:46.080 to hang with all the trap news because hello, that 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:49.240 was my jam okay, and I'm from Florida, right, so 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.280 like southern culture, big car shows, HBC's like, it was 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.199 just fun and basically what I would do if they 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.120 were going to like buy a bottle or a table 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.200 in the club, I would see if I had like 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.280 maybe thirty dollars left on my account so that it 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.679 would overdraft, and have them give me the cash. And 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:05.480 that was like my payday loan to myself. 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:10.359 Oh wow, hold that You are like really in deep 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:11.960 when you think of that strategy. 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.520 Oh yeah, yeah yeah. My roommate and I at the time, 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.280 I remember we both got paid on different weeks. So 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.600 there was a Thursday and we both got paid that 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:22.760 or I got paid that Friday. I was like, damn, 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:24.159 we don't have detergent left, but we want to go 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.359 to the club. We had like twenty bucks. She was like, okay, 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.600 we get vodka or detergent. And we got vodka. Okay, 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.000 we you some body washing like clean shit. In the 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:34.200 same we were like, we got to go out and 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.720 meet niggas to make more money. And it's crazy that 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.760 like that was what I thought being able to have success. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.080 Look like I got to meet a rich guy. I 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.600 got to be a basketball player or they or that guy. Yeah, 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.800 which a lot of women still think they need to 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:46.720 do today. 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:51.199 I want to subscribe. I'm gonna say it openly. I 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:53.679 want to subscribe to the rich nigga club because I 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.760 do the opposite. I'm like, are you broken, homeless? Let 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.280 me help you. I can graduate you to the next week. 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:03.119 Oh no, trust me. You don't want to get in 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:04.680 that game. You know what the problem is because they'll 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:06.560 turn around to look at you and be like, I 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.879 know I'm homeless, but uh oh no, my life, I 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:10.800 think I'm better than you. 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.280 The problem is, like I think now, a lot of 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.800 the dudes are in my industry right, so like the 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.560 people that I'm working amongst I can't be out here 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:21.800 like trying to fuck with these niggas for bread like 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:23.280 I used to. Don't get me wrong, I would still 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:27.960 want Toby, but like for real, like you know, it's 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.280 like they'll know me from somewhere. I've seen me on something, 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.159 so I don't want to be a bird then I 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.680 just end up, you know, a bird with these niggas. 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:40.240 But whatever, I'll tell you right now, I am learning 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:42.720 and I am done. So you know, if you ever 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.080 find a rich one, you can always slide on. Heyko, 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.480 I'm like, yeah, because I've actually I've never actually dated 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:50.359 a rich dude. 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:53.639 My damnsel in distress thing all the time was just 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.280 like I just really want to be able to like 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:59.960 ount my you know, parents, And it was true. I was. 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:01.840 So I'm just like working really hard and I can't't 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:03.720 work college. But just like, I'm really smart. I read 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.679 a lot. I was always like doing a fucking sob story, 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:11.640 which I'll tell you what, my sugar daddy. A lot 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:14.880 of the things that I think helped me now are 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:16.960 the stock tips and investment tips I got for my 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:17.560 sugar daddy. 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.320 But didn't didn't you say were your parents in stock 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.239 market too, though it crash okay, so you didn't want 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.080 to take tips from them, were you? Like No? 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:32.200 But you know, with him, particularly my sugar daddy, I 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:34.080 remember he would get up at four o'clock in the morning, 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:35.840 five o'clock in the morning and watch the market, to 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:40.000 watch the markets in China wherever, just international stocks four 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.359 x right, things like that, and it never made me 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:45.720 want his money. I always wanted to be him. I 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.680 always wanted to be that person that just had this, this, this, 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.240 this and that. To me that was so attractive about him. 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.040 People used to always ask me how I could fuck 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:54.520 him and shit like that, and I was like, Bro, 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:57.600 you don't know how rich the person is. You don't 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.080 know how how much that drives me. The ambitition and 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.639 that made him sexier and sexier. So one day I 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:04.560 eventually just asked him like, hey, I really want to 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:06.760 learn the stock market, but like, you know, what, can 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.280 I put like five hundred dollars in And he's like, 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.880 that's not a start. I'll give you ten thousand dollars 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.440 if you can make it grow. I forgot the time frame. 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.640 He said, I'll reward you with another ten and he did. 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:18.439 Wow. 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.479 And I kept growing it and growing it. I think 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.280 at the time I even put the money in T Mobile. 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:25.399 Think it opened became a publicly traded company when I 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:30.880 worked there, became publicly traded and then it was six 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:32.560 dollars and then they went up to like thirty, and 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:42.320 I thought, I get a lot of money. 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:49.080 So when you were doing the podcast, and this is before, 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:52.240 I want to say, before everybody was on podcasting correct, 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:54.919 seven years ago? Yeah, I mean it was like before 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:57.600 the new Waive or were you guys early in Like 0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:58.160 we were. 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.400 Very early, and like people were verly really do video, 0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:04.200 I think for popular podcasts, just for scale. 0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:08.040 I don't understand how you're mixing water and oil and 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:09.520 you're not getting burns. 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.240 I'm standing away. I'm trying to like I didn't have 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.520 a grill, okay, but I'm trying to get that real plate. 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:20.400 Okay, Okay, you know what I mean. Okay, gourmet continue. 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:21.879 I don't want to detail you. 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.560 This is pucking me up. This is hard. I can't 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.159 even listen to music when I cook one. 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:29.560 You would be surprised how many people will at the 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.240 after each interview, They'll be like yo, cooking and talking 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.760 at the same time really really difficult because. 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.920 You're like knowing that you have to engage, like that's 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:38.640 what's making it. 0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:42.200 And you have to like tell your story the entire time. 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:43.920 I don't know, I'm about to start telling you some lies. 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:50.240 No no, So so your sugar baby is sugar babe, 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.280 sugar daddy, so that would make you the sugar baby, right, 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.400 sugar baby. Okay, okay, I'm going to be a sugar baby. 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:57.160 I'm going to get a shirt Baisy Bros. 0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.320 Every time I was out with I would take him 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.159 to like fucking any now. And this when I just 0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.520 moved to New York. Catch just just came out at 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.080 the time, and SGK was super popular. I remember all 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:08.280 them niggas if you be looking at me with him, 0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.240 and I'd be like, come on, babe. Also just turned 0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:13.359 on knowing that he had to fuck me for money, 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:16.760 uh huh, which is terrible, but I was okay, it 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.639 was sexy to me, like especially when I remember he 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:20.879 would be like, you want to get some clothes and 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:22.400 I would always want to get a little Nike askic 0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.440 to shit. You know many all the niggas of you 0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:30.879 in yeah, he's my daddy. But so anyway, start horrible decisions. 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:35.199 But I like how you were actually inspired by his 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.960 moves versus well, I don't want to say I like, 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:41.960 but it's interesting that you were inspired by him being 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.440 successful to be even more successful, and you you took 0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.000 the initiative to even say, hey, I want to learn 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.280 what you're doing and do it on my own, which was. 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.359 It's like I always wanted this sex in the city 0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:55.960 life mm hmm, but I never felt like any of 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.560 them needed men to live that life. Yeah, and so 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.360 I wanted to have the girlfriends that I was wearing 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:04.440 an amazing designer with and fucking enjoying fashion show and 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.880 doing this shit. But I knew if I was tied 0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:08.879 to a man, I wouldn't have that freedom. And I 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.560 had also experienced my first relationship a man with money 0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.280 and abuse, so I was like, I have to have 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.719 it on my own. I can't be down again. And 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:19.040 you know, I hate to say it like this, but 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.560 my mom was a housewife her whole life. And what 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:23.480 happened to my parents with losing their I mean their 0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.960 house got four clothes on right, the home that I 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.439 semi grew up in. It's like it was tough to 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:30.040 watch them go through that, and I think about two 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:33.520 incomes or just diversifying, shit, what that would have meant. 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.680 So that really fueled me a lot. And it's tough 0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:37.840 for my mom to hear that. 0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.880 Yeah, but why have you had those sidebar conversations? 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.600 Oh yeah, definitely, But it's not easy, like my mom. 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.439 My mom is so amazing, but there's moments where she's like, 0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:49.920 oh my god, I never taught you to go out 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:53.879 there and do it alone. But look at you in 0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:57.359 a way, you're you know, well I made money off 0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:58.240 of personality. 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.840 Well you make money because you're a gangster entrepreneur. That's 0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:06.760 really it. I mean the personality. I mean, in my opinion, 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.680 the personality is just like the cherry on the cake. 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:12.960 But you know what, I'm a feller at heart. And 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:16.080 my father that's what he did growing up. He owned 0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:19.120 like camera stores and like you know the little row 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.280 like stores back in the day they'd have where they 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.960 were selling electronic these shops. That was my dad's like 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:29.919 line of work. Okay, And when I was growing up, 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:31.639 I mean this shit, that's what I started selling clothes, 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:38.840 t mobile, my blizni. Then then like literally everything about 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.600 it felt like selling to me. You know, like it's 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:43.440 interesting the way Mandy and I have kind of done 0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:48.000 our business. I always felt like she has really helped 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:49.880 us so much when it comes in terms of our finances. 0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:50.040 Right. 0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.439 She had a financial background, and even though I came 0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:54.439 from the tech world, was selling like I mean, I'm 0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.320 the first person when we're on a call that's like 0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:57.800 I want to do it for this much or we 0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.560 need this or that, And like, I love that We've 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.400 been able to play up both of our corporate roles 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.879 in that. Yeah, and I've got a lot of seller 0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.520 blood in me. My partner Alex now with WTF Media Studios, 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.320 anytime we have a big deal or he sees someone's budget, 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.480 he's like, oh, you have to sell them on the phone. 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.920 You have to tell them why. And I really enjoy 0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:19.280 it. It makes me feel like I still got it a 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:19.720 little bit. 0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:23.960 I always say this that I think I used to 0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:25.399 always say. When I have a child, I want to 0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.320 teach her how to read, I want to teach her 0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.600 financial literacy, I want to teach her about God. But 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.560 the number one skill that she has to have before 0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:36.080 she graduates high school is the ability to sell, because 0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.880 I think it is the most underrated skill. And if 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.360 you're going to go work for yourself, the number one 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.200 thing you're gonna have to do is sell a product, 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.800 sell yourself. And so I don't buy anything, yep. And 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.640 I remember when I had my first company. I remember 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.120 going to a home deep or office depot and buying 0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.840 those little sale books and you know, how will out 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.800 my hair pulled back and all this and whatever. But 0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:03.120 I knew right away that sales is the one skill. 0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:05.560 And I would listen to all these audio tapes too 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.400 about like how people you know you're almost nervous getting 0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:08.760 into it. 0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.120 Well, what's interesting about selling too? I know Mandy and 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:13.440 I had a conversation about this, Like so I never 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.120 finished college because I couldn't afford to finish it because 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.800 I got out of that relationship, right, m I don't 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:20.920 want it to splatter in all this equipment. I don't 0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.760 know only do it like this. But Mandy at the 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:28.760 time coming off of two degrees working for this huge firm, 0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.920 and she was working more hours and not making as 0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:35.000 much as me in accounting at that time. I understand 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.360 it was junior Levelah, but I think about that a lot, 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.920 and I think about the money you can make from 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.520 selling all the time, and I think about that instance 0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:46.320 of like, shit, maybe she's smarter than me, but why 0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:50.200 isn't she making it up? And it's because that particular 0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:53.200 skill really can't be taught, real can't. 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.040 Yeah, you gotta practice it and practice it and practice 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:57.040 it and practice it. 0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.040 I mean, I believe Mandy is greater than was. I 0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.480 gonna say, you know, the job that she had, and 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.280 that's why she's making way more and doing way more 0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.760 things now. But yeah, I mean it's definitely a thing. 0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:08.400 Yeah. 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:12.080 So yeah, with selling doing shit like that, had horrible 0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.320 decisions on the side, and it was really difficult to 0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.920 juggle both. And so about two years into doing horrible decisions, 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.440 I quit. But it was mainly because I was like, 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.120 you know what, if I ever wanted to come back 0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.320 to this shit, I will, Like I've been making jokes recently, 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.080 I'm like, oh my god, me and fifteen years I'm 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:29.320 probably gonna be a real estate agent. 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:31.960 So why did you quit? 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.840 Two years in the trajectory of horrible was faster than 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:39.040 the trajectory of corporate America. For example, how long do 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.520 we work a corporate job? Right? So you want to 0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:45.320 get promoted, I worked for Teambile six years. I got 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.200 to be a manager after year three and a half 0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.720 four if there's a spot for you, so to me, 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:55.680 I kind of just felt like this is moving faster 0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:57.880 than my rate in the corporate world. 0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:00.200 Yeah, but you said you quit horror. 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.760 Oh sorry, quit my corporate Oh okay. 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.320 Okay, Oh, because you were like two years in I 0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.800 quit horrible. So no, you quit your corporate okay, okay. 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:11.120 Got quit my corporate job after two years, and I 0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.640 legitimately felt like it was not gonna make me. 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.959 But I have to ask before how much were you 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:23.360 making it horrible to say, okay, not as you make it. Oh, 0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:24.920 you weren't making as much as T Mobile. 0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:26.960 So here's the thing, because a lot of people ask 0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:28.800 me when is the right time to quit a job, 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.080 and I can only explain it like this, starting Team Mobile, 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.760 I made ninety thousand, ending I was around one seventy five, okay, which. 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.520 Is damn T Mobile, Go ahead, go on. 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.680 It was like I was selling to companies that needed 0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:45.520 like Ethernet, I graduate disaster recovery like I graduated from phones. 0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:50.680 But basically this is what happens, so horrible decisions at 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.800 that time that I quit. May have been making me 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:56.720 one hundred thousand, maybe one twenty five from touring mainly, 0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.600 not even Patreon add money. 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.840 And that's two years. Yeah, jeez, all right, go on, 0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:03.720 And I. 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:05.640 Think the tour money because Mandy and I were buying 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.320 out theaters. We brought out carolines on Broadway. 0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.600 And you guys were physically doing it yourself. 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.720 Splitting that money, paying ourselves back event bright type shit. 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:19.440 But what I realized was like, oh, took me six 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.680 years to make ninety to one to seventy. Yeah, took 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:25.080 me two years from zero to one hundred. So next 0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.840 year I'm gonna make more. Yeah, let's just say I 0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.120 make another fifty. It's worth it. Not to mention I 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:31.760 have more time on my hands. I could probably do 0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:35.200 more appearances and more tour dates, so it's time to quit. 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:40.080 I also remember one moment it was brilliant idiots. If 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.640 anyone watches that episode, I was literally wearing a suit 0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:44.920 like a blazer and a skirt, but Mandy and I 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.160 had to make an excuse to leave our jobs that 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.080 day to go shoot with Charlee Mane and Andrew. So 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.440 I think that it really will show you, like when 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.200 you have to start saying no to things. Oh oh yeah, 0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:57.920 when you have to start saying no to things because 0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:01.640 of your day job, Yes, that's when it's time, Like 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.880 when you're really getting booked like that, like TV appearances 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.280 even Like I remember we did Vice Live and I 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.920 couldn't be there early for the rehearsal because of my job, 0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:13.760 and I was like, damn man, and anyone who's watching 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.640 this who might be semi getting entertainment, whether you've got 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.240 a TikTok or popular Instagram channel, you want to do 0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.560 a Horrible Decisions podcast and maybe get or even eating 0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.280 while robe. Who the fuck is gonna do this shit 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.680 at six thirty seven o'clock at night, right, who's gonna 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.320 do what? Like to have a guest? Yeah, entrepreneurs, Like 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.080 all this shit gets filmed during the day, so it's 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.520 really tough to have a nine to five and pursue 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:39.480 those entertainment dreams. And like that was why I was 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.680 like I got to figure the shit out. I think 0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.640 my biggest success in this industry came during the pandemic 0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:51.400 while Pivoting So made the TV show Sex Sells. It's 0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:54.480 about the business of sex, having money, making money from 0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:58.040 sex without having it, and I came up with that 0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:00.960 because that's how I make money, right, Basically, talk about 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:04.520 sex covered all these adult industries and I'm not a 0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.520 TV star, and it ended up popping on tuess and 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.279 that's why I'm on, how did you? 0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.520 Did you package that yourself and then start selling it 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.080 or did you package it and then started calling Charlemagne 0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.719 or different people you have relationship with, and like, so 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:17.960 I have something that I need. 0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:19.960 That's what made me the most proud. I didn't need 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.720 a co sign for that. Okay, I believe horrible decisions 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:26.040 had the Charlemagne co sign, and that's what made a 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:27.920 lot of people watching in the beginning. I do believe 0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.399 Charlemagne made our success faster. Don't believe we're successful because 0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:37.200 it happened faster. But what happened with Sex Sells was 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.080 like I just had so much time during the pandemic 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.120 to think, and I knew my two loves were fucking 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:43.920 in money m hm, and so I was like, oh 0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.120 my god, I should make the show. I want to 0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.920 humanize sex workers, and literally people don't talk about their 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.239 sex lives on it, and a lot of people have said, like, oh, 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:52.839 it's like horrible decisions on TV. 0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.520 But it's even it doesn't sound like it. It sounds 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.759 completely different because you're talking about this set workers right right. 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.359 I'm interview a lot of the guests we had so 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:02.920 that I can, you know, show them some love and 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.960 they've got real businesses promote them. But no, it's totally 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:09.279 different and I love doing it. It makes me. It 0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.120 really brought me into the world of seeing how production works, 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.200 the larger skill budgets and money. 0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.600 So, but you pitched it yourself, That's what I'm saying, 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.279 Like you went out there or did you have a 0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.319 manager that helped you so. 0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.640 It started slow. I didn't have a manager, never had 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.480 an agent ever. 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:28.680 Basically, oh still to this date. 0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.279 No, not personally, Damn you're a gangster. I have a 0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.279 person that gives I give them a cut of my 0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.520 money if they do pr stuff for me, but if 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:41.799 they get me a deal. But yeah, So basically, there 0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:43.439 was a guy that reached out to me months back 0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:45.960 before the pandemic was like, oh, do you want to 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.040 do this type of show? I was like, no, pandemic 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.640 hits and I was like, you know what, I wonder 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.000 what the fuck he's doing. It's like he making TV 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:58.120 is TV being made, and we started talking about what 0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.719 it would look like if we work together and came 0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:02.839 up with sex cells together. He worked at FEWS at 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.480 the time. Help me package it, oh, help me make 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.200 a bible. And we did it that way. But what 0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.400 I will tell anyone that has a good TV idea 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.840 is people that work in development needs shows all the time. 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:18.640 I currently run development for Kenya Barris at Audible. Right, okay, 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.799 don't send me shit right now, I'm done with that. 0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.399 But like literally, I was wondering what shows we're gonna 0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.239 make for him, Like developers want to fucking know, and 0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:33.000 if you have good ideas, shooting pilots, making decks, having 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.719 a bible, having the demographics of why it would be good, 0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.200 not just coming in their blank like hey, I'm not 0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.920 doing anything like I've been doing XYZ. Like if you 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.440 hit up the Food Network, you'd have how much to 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.719 show them? For real? You know what I mean. 0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.279 I'm gonna take notes. Remember how I said I'll take it. 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.520 Notes goge you did, But like here it is, here's 0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:53.239 my spread, and this is what I do with this 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:56.120 type of budget. Imagine if you gave me fifty thousand 0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.400 an episode, I could be doing it on location. I 0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:00.839 could be coming to their homes. I could be XYZ. Like. 0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.719 There's so many different ways for the things that we're 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.160 making right now to make them next level. Yeah, and 0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.160 so I think that we just kind of have to 0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:13.480 use our network. Like my biggest thing with playing chess 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.799 is making sure that I'm rubbing elbows with those that 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:21.279 can one day need to use me for something I 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:22.960 need to use you. 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.160 That's awesome, Yeah. 0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.640 Because the thing is, I remember Charlotte, he said this 0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.040 about someone. They were like, he was like, that person 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.640 is such an opportunist, And I was like, I wonder 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:36.600 if that's who I am. But really, I don't ask 0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:38.920 I let every single person know what the fuck I do. 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:42.000 I just had a dinner where I sat down next 0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:43.759 to one of the most famous comedians in the world. 0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.480 I don't even know if this person can travel on 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.719 a commercial plane, that's how famous they are, right. 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:49.040 Wow. 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:50.960 When they asked me what I do, didn't even say 0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:52.880 a podcasting. I was like, I own a production studio 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.240 in New York and Las Black owned. We shoot podcasts mainly, 0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.359 but we also have a mobile team boom. Now it's 0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.400 in your brain, now, you know what you can use 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.160 me for, Like, that's the job I felt like I 0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.640 needed to sell to that person at the time. When 0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:07.960 I talk to TV show, TV networks or people that 0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:09.640 work in Netflix or different things like that I host, 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:11.719 I do this, I do that right, Like I want 0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.400 to make sure that I'm useful to people that I've 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:15.319 rebbed elbows with. 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.080 Yeah, I think your sales skills like shines through. I 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:21.040 always say, like sales is more about paying attention to 0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:25.200 what the customer wants, listening to them, and then catering 0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.120 to their needs. That's just trying to sell someone something 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.640 that they don't want to buy. So even the way 0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:34.719 you're talking is like your sales skills are just really amazing. Yeah, 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:36.680 because that's how it is. You're supposed to sell. You're 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:38.520 supposed to you know, if someone walks up to me 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:42.239 right now, I'm gonna think about, you know, what it 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:43.680 is they're gonna need or want from me. 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:45.880 Correct. You know, that's a really good point because I 0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.120 didn't even think about me selling myself in that way, 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:49.080 but like, damn it is. 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:52.920 It is. But now opportunists is different because opportunists are 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:55.200 I always say, I want to be a business person 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:57.719 not a hustler, because I feel like a hustler is like, 0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.640 I'm gonna take advantage, someone's gonna at the short end 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.839 of a stick. But a business person is like, we're 0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:04.879 all gonna win. You're gonna walk away with your piece 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.040 of the pie. She's gonna walk away with her piece 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:08.640 of pie, and I'm gonna walk away with my piece, 0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:10.120 and no one feels to agreed. 0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.560 You can never make someone feel like they're doing you 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:13.040 a favor. 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.080 Yeah, like at all. 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.920 I mean, Charlotte Mane was lucky and lucky enough to 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:21.200 make horrible decisions with his rollout on Black Effect. I 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.560 know there's eighty five South all the smoke, and I 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.839 literally was thinking to myself the other day, Charla Mane 0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.080 and is Charlotmane, But horrible decisions was still good enough to 0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.080 where Black Effects was like, oh, we do need those numbers, 0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.319 but we sell to add people like I don't want 0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:38.120 to fucking suck anybody's dick to feel like and I'm 0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.239 not talking about that instance, but just anyone like, thank 0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:41.759 you so much for giving this to you. Yeah, yeah, 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:43.799 when you know your value, yeah yeah. We have to 0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.600 make sure that we're definitely pouring into ourselves in that way. 0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.840 But I mean, shit, you know I love fuse to death, 0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.640 but I also know my show brings number then and 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:54.200 I know that's why they treat me well. They love 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:57.680 me too, like we're definitely doing what we need to 0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.799 do for each other. Like I'm so happy to be 0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:03.719 on a network that you know I can be their 0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:05.600 most watch show. Like maybe if I was on an 0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.480 HBO or some Netflix, maybe I would just kind of 0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:09.280 go under the radar. 0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.640 I don't think so. Maybe I honestly don't think so. 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:14.040 Thank you, I don't think so. 0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:28.239 I'm not even trying to be well, what was your 0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.120 hardest hurdle? I think it just to come to day 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:33.240 because I feel like you have a lot of great pivots. 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.120 But like, where was there a point where you were 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:41.560 like I don't know, hmm that you seriously like had 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.640 that conversation if I don't know, And it could have been. 0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.880 A studio, Okay, my studio, which is the best thing 0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.600 I've ever done. Actually, my studio gave me the seal 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:54.759 of approval to be bigger than just a podcaster. Like 0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:56.879 that was really when I became a businesswoman. No matter 0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.520 how hard, Mandy and I have worked. I never felt 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:01.719 like that, and it's no shade to her. I don't 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:02.960 know if it's because with women. I don't know if 0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:04.919 it's because we talk about sex, but like I had 0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:08.520 to do something else for myself to feel like I 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.439 could be respected. And it really shows something about brick 0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:14.839 and mortar spaces to make people feel very like, oh, 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:18.080 they're really doing something, which is weird. But it's also 0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.239 because I started getting other people money, Like. 0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.160 What was the hesitancy, Like where was that hesitancy at? 0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.840 Like where was that pain that investment? Right, my partner 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:30.240 Alex shout out to him, we spent an insane amount 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.680 of money on fucking equipment, which is why we have 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.319 one of the best studios right, Like literally, I was like, 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.040 how can we be charging people this little but like 0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:42.000 our equipment is so fucking expensive, like it doesn't add 0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:45.040 up or whatever. Yeah, and he was like, Yo, that's 0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:47.279 why everybody's gonna come to us, to know that the 0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:51.120 podcasters like us can be there and then the Charlotte 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:52.919 Maanees of the world or whoever they may be. David 0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:53.800 Letterman wasn't. 0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.239 Our shit, Oh shit, right, Okay. 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.480 He's like to know these people and Okay, you can 0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.480 sit amongst them like we're gonna be for all of them. 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:03.960 And that's really been our brand. I believe that's why 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:06.760 we're growing. I mean, we get resumes like fucking crazy 0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:07.400 every day. 0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.440 So how long did it take when you so you 0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:14.360 made that initial investment. The by the way, you're cooking 0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.680 like we are in a rich restaurant. 0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.560 At the point. Look at all the food she. 0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:21.279 Made and it's like, I feel like I'm about to 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:22.200 eat an appetizer. 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.880 Go mate, you try to make it look clean and minimally. 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:28.920 When the cameras are off, I'm gonna just go in 0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.240 with a fork and just eat everything direct. 0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:32.120 I know it. 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:36.200 Yeah, because I'm starving and you gave me like an appetizer. 0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:39.600 Well, it's fucking hot dogs, girl. 0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:41.360 I want to see you sit down next to this 0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:42.880 mic and spend quality time with me. 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:47.480 Okay, okay, let's try this. It looks good but. 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:51.640 Not bad. 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:55.280 You look is the onions. 0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:57.680 I'm surprised you didn't mix these in together. 0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:02.600 Funny enough, my COO talks about Haitian spaghetti and there's 0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.960 hot dogs in it. I never mixed the hot dogs 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:07.759 a pasta, but this is kind of good. 0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:09.799 This ship is amazing. Did you mix it all on 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:10.240 one fork? 0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:13.359 I put it together on I don't want to touch 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:14.080 on the plate for. 0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:17.760 A y'all, listeners. The hot dog and the onions smack. 0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.360 I definitely will mess with Nathan's just because I feel 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.200 like maybe it tastes different or I just haven't had 0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:22.800 a hot dog. 0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:23.080 In a while. 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:28.080 But the freaking grilled onions in mac and cheese cheeses genius. 0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:32.440 Bro I don't know why I've never thought of seasoning 0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:36.280 up my mac and cheese, but the grilled onions, it's crunchy, 0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:37.080 it's amazing. 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:38.920 I am so happy. 0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:41.759 I am very impressible. 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:43.360 The only thing is. 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.440 I would maybe add and I don't even know, but 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.720 do you agree? Would you add more salt to the 0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:51.480 mac and cheese? 0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:53.160 Oh? I put salt on my stuff, but I don't 0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:53.960 want to do that to people. 0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:55.160 Oh okay, that's. 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.440 Why I left the lorries for you. You know, sodium 0:43:57.520 --> 0:43:59.839 is a bitch nowadays. Plus there's a lot of salt 0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:01.840 in Tony Sherari. What her fucking name is? 0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:06.920 Okay, So for a girl that came from money, went broke, 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.919 had sugar daddies and it's self made to the point 0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:18.280 of flying your family in from Orlando to LA still 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.719 in the early early I don't even want to say 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:24.320 how early thirty she is because all of us are listening. 0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:30.160 Can you believe that much you've accomplished? It's amazing. 0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.680 You know. Sometimes I get scared, like I'll lose it, 0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:36.480 But then I realize the hunger that I have to 0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:40.600 help everybody around me is too deep. It's too intense 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:41.800 that I don't think it could happen. 0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:44.880 Now do you deal with well? You said you have 0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.759 multiple companies. You're definitely spread. It sounds to me like 0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.279 you're spread pretty thin. I'm so happy you shared that 0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.520 because I always think that maybe I'm doing something wrong 0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:54.799 if I have so many hustles going at the same time. 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.839 Fuck. No, you know there is something to be said 0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:01.080 about a master of none. But I will say this 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:05.440 much what's worked for me. I don't steal anybody's idea. 0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.200 I really ride my own wave. I made a studio 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:11.440 not because there's other podcast studios, because there were no 0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:15.640 black owned ones that we're going to have podcasters run it. 0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.040 I'd never been to a podcast studio run by a podcaster. 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.680 I made horrible decisions because I really wanted to do 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:25.040 a fun sex show with someone that I knew was authentic, 0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.040 and there were no black shows about sex that were 0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.640 hosted by normal girls. Yeah right, it was always like 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.520 porn stars or whatever. Everything that I've done so far 0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:37.040 hadn't seen before except for stock, I would say. But like, 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:41.319 I've really rode my own wave, and that's why I 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:45.760 think it's worked. So when you do too many different 0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:49.520 trades and you're taking an idea, like your concept is different. 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.439 We've all seen a cooking show which your concept different, right, Yeah, yeah, 0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:55.400 so it's like you have to have something different added 0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:57.480 to it, and I think that if you don't, you 0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:59.439 then become a master of none because you're just trying 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:00.640 to do things that other people do. 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:06.680 Yeah, that's tough. I have a fear of I don't 0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:08.239 even know where this fear came from, But when it 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:11.400 comes to partnering with other people, I feel like my 0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.560 greatest asset is my relationships. And it's probably because I 0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:16.879 have so much integrity. I'm like, dude, I won't hurt 0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:19.520 a full I really won't even hurt a fly because 0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:21.359 I want to treat people the way I would want 0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:24.160 to be treated. So my loyalty is there. But when 0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:26.799 I see like you and Mandy working together and you 0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:30.279 and Alex working together, I'm like, either the integrity on 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.719 you has got to be super lit or how are 0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:35.880 you managing that partnership? Because I always I always get nervous, 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.719 like what if the other partner doesn't hold up or 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:40.719 there's a disagreement? So how do you how do you 0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:41.399 navigate that? 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.440 My first partnership I've ever had was with Mandy, right, 0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:48.319 and Mandy and I had stopped we're friends, stopp being friends, 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:50.640 became friends again during the show, fell out of friendship again. 0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:56.240 But I think we are so hungry to make money 0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:58.399 that we look past that and we're able to think 0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:01.520 of the greater purpose. If I had a co host 0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:05.000 that wasn't about our fans, maybe I couldn't do the job, 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:07.240 you know what I'm saying. But Mandy's a self starter 0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:10.880 like I am too, so it's not tough. Like Mandy 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:15.200 and I were on tour putting together the merch table 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.520 or doing something with the merchant of the VIP things. 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:19.880 And you know, if I see her doing something, I 0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:20.880 don't want her to do it alone. 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.480 Like yeah, because oh nice, Okay. 0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:25.120 You know, and I think she feels the same for me, 0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.360 so we definitely try and trust me, I have a 0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.680 time where I didn't even realize how much work she 0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.600 was putting in with the finance stuff. She's making spreadsheets 0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:34.359 and shit back then and doing stuff I didn't even 0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.080 understand that works. I would try to do it on 0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:43.160 the creative side. But like I think for me, with partnerships, 0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.640 there's a skill set that someone has that I don't. 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:49.160 You know, wtf is so about the tech which is 0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.080 all Alex and not me. But I do have to 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:55.719 give myself credit on how we were able to get 0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:57.360 this shit going. I just don't know how much on 0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.040 rent is or where the light people come from? What 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:02.239 fuck going on? Which is great, yeah, figure out the 0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:04.319 other shit. Like I really learned how to use our 0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.280 skills and work together in that way, and it's definitely 0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:08.000 been touched. She's one of my tough he's one of 0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.600 my best friends, and it's like damn, now, sometimes it's 0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:13.280 all work. So we really have to feed that friendship. 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:14.320 You know, we have to have a night where we 0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:16.200 get drunk together and have fun and not talk about work. 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.919 We have to really do that to enjoy each other 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:20.840 and separate it because it's tough. 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:24.520 Yeah, I know with Dolly. Dolly and I came from 0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:26.759 the nick Cannon area. A lot of people don't know this. 0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.880 So my whole hookup with Black Effects, the President of 0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:30.880 the Black Man, yeah. 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:33.120 My stuff was an accident. It was legit. I was 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:37.279 telling Dolly I was literally like flying weed money during 0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:40.560 the pandemic because I was I was hustling all different directions. 0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:43.239 But anyways, I was trying to build this show and 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.640 I was like, Dolly, I think you should be a 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.200 part of it. But you know, she had this other 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:51.400 job offer and she's like, should I take him? Like, 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.000 as long as they don't tell you to go to work, girl, 0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.080 I'm all about taking all checks. I didn't know it 0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.560 was the President of the Black Effect or whatever. They 0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:01.400 happened to need a cooking show, and she pitched Eating 0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:04.040 While Broke and called me like, you're gonna kill me? 0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:06.319 And I was like, why would I kill you? We're 0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:09.359 actual friends, you know, I told you. She's like, I 0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:13.120 told you know, iHeart and ICM and Charlemagne about Eating 0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:17.800 while Broke and they loved it. And I was like, okay, 0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:20.560 so where do I kill you? She's like, well, they 0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:23.040 you know, we run a podcast network and your show 0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:26.200 is you want to do a TV show. I'm like, Dolly, 0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.480 the table was just built in my garage. My neighbors 0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:32.319 are driving past it. I actually don't even know where 0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:35.480 this table is gonna go, okay, And I think I 0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:38.040 had just found out I was pregnant or I was 0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:41.879 like borderline in that conversation, and I was like, shit, 0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:45.440 you know I was doing illegal weed activity. I was 0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:47.440 hustling in all these different plans, but I had this 0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.279 idea that was literally sitting in my garage, Like they 0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:53.320 just finished putting the forks on the table, and I'm like, Dolly, 0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:55.200 I'm about to go broke. And I done pitched all 0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:57.160 my celebrity friends. But I don't even know if we're 0:49:57.200 --> 0:49:58.960 just taking this table to their house or how we're 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:02.279 even doing it. So why would I kill you? Like? 0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:03.799 And she was like, yeah, well, they want to send 0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:05.680 you an offer, like and I was like, She's like, 0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:07.080 can you send me all your decks and stuff? And 0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:09.480 I was like yeah, I had already had everything made. 0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.520 But it was really no reason to kill her. But 0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:14.719 even to this day, like sometimes as friends, I'll have 0:50:14.760 --> 0:50:16.480 to get on the phone with her and she'll be like, 0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:18.880 I don't want to talk business, or we could talk friends. 0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:20.800 So that's how we managed the friendship. It'd be like, 0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:22.799 Dolly ain't joyning to hear nothing about work. 0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.439 That's tough. When someone's like cutting, that's tough. 0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:26.680 Yeah, oh yeah. 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:28.640 I remember the first time I heard an attitude from 0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:30.040 Dolly when I was asking for more money. 0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:32.000 I was like, oh, oh yeah, Dolly will tell me 0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:35.880 no so fast. I don't know, but you know, I separated. 0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:39.319 It is a safe place. It's a safer place than not, 0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:42.719 you know, in my heart is times with Mandy, I 0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:46.560 remember being so angry at her. We've definitely thought like 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:49.239 I can't do this anymore. Literally, I was like, why 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.440 I go fucking Where am I gonna go? Like all 0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.759 this goddamn money, where am I gonna Where? Am I 0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:56.240 gonna go work for someone else? Some fucking white dude? 0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:58.360 Like No, I'm gonna make this money with her and 0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:01.680 figure it the fuck out. Actually, it's interesting with our partnership. 0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.040 I recently was at dinner with someone who asked me 0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.520 about books and money spending and things like that, and 0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:11.920 I was like, when you talked about integrity. I just 0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:15.360 thought about it, whether I'm angry with Randy or not. 0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:17.600 I've never thought she would like take money from the 0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:19.800 company or something. Right with Alex and I were bestie, 0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:21.960 so we're not going to fuck each other over. And 0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:24.120 they were telling me about how someone been sneaking money 0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:28.719 out of their partnership. And I never thought of the 0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:31.520 bad side of what could happen for partnerships, only the good. 0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:34.400 But it's really because I do find strength in numbers, 0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:38.040 and I think partnership just builds and builds and builds 0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:41.719 your portfolio. I mean, I would rather have half of 0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:45.000 ten things, you know what I mean, especially knowing that, 0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.200 like there's so many times Alex has called me and 0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:50.080 is like, Yo, Neil Brennan is coming in and David 0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:53.000 Lehiman coming in our studios us right, or maybe I'll 0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:54.480 hit him up and I'll be like we're locked down 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:56.400 for a week. We got a deal from Amazon. Like 0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:58.879 it's always one or the other, and it really really 0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:01.080 helps because when when you're trying to get all that 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:04.280 different money, yeah, you can't do all things. I don't 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.200 believe in people that are trying to have too much 0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:09.080 control over everything, you know, that's that's when it gets 0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:11.200 really tough. That's when you get burnt out. You've got 0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:13.319 to be able to alleviate some of that. I'm real 0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:15.200 cheap and I don't even be wanting to give money 0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:17.080 up to an assistant, but I realize it helps make 0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:17.760 your life easier. 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:19.880 Have you have you considered bringing one on yet I 0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:22.400 have one, as it has been helpful. 0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:25.400 Well, our studio is so busy. She's now just the 0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:28.239 studio manager of the two New York locations. But oh, 0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:31.160 she was amazing, Like she literally helped me with my 0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:35.120 grandmother's funeral, you know, like when you've got a good one. 0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:37.600 But my sister is like a real nigga, Like she's 0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:42.520 not like she's not, Oh, she's so great. She'll call 0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:43.960 me like these mother, Like she helped me with the 0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:46.120 thing for the wheelchair for my dad today. Right, she 0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:47.759 sent me a screenshot of an email she was like 0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.960 these motherfucker's trying to play me bruh, And like it's 0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:53.120 so funny because like you kind of do have to 0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:55.640 work with someone that makes you feel comfortable. You know, 0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:57.239 if she was too tidied up, I don't think I 0:52:57.239 --> 0:53:00.120 can do it. Yeah, But like I love partnering and 0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.560 working with people that make me feel like I'm at home. Yeah, yeah, 0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:06.360 because when we face the world, there's a different person 0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:08.680 across that, you know what I'm saying. So knowing that 0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:10.760 we hire black and hire people that are a vibe 0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:13.680 like yeah, it's just it's so great, yeah, I. 0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:17.759 Think, but also finding someone that really is invested in 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:19.840 your vision and your long term goals. I know with 0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:23.880 my crew, I love them like if I feel something's 0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:27.960 de routing, I'm like, dinner, lunch, we're getting together, Let's 0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:29.640 get to the table and find out what's going on. 0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:33.200 But we I genuinely like love my crew, Like. 0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:34.880 Everybody that works for me, I would want to have 0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:37.919 a drink with them. Yeah. That to me, I don't 0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:39.800 want to hire anybody that makes me feel like like 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.040 anyone nerves and they're weird or like, I want to 0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:44.000 know they're cool, whether they be nerdy as fuck, and 0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:46.279 maybe we don't share those hobbies, like there has to 0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:49.200 be some connection there or I won't maybe care as much. 0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:51.800 And I think my thing to being a good boss 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.920 is giving a fuck yeah, you know, writing down everyone's birthdays, 0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:57.080 making sure I get them a gift, sending them text 0:53:57.080 --> 0:53:59.640 telling them I appreciate them. I also don't say people 0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:02.600 work for me. Like if I'm in front of someone, 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:04.480 I feel like that's. 0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:06.359 Do you do? You call them like your team? How 0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:07.080 do you reference them? 0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:09.280 I'd be like, I say we work together. If someone 0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:11.640 wants to know, oh, I like that. Even if they 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:13.080 walk in the studio and they know on the owner, 0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:14.759 I'd be like, this is Danny, he works with us, 0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:17.799 or like that just makes me more comfortable. Yeah, I 0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:21.719 find a lot of condescendingness and when people kind of 0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:22.880 just be like they work for me. 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:25.160 Yeah. I was at an event the other day and 0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:27.600 someone said, just so you know, I'm her boss, and 0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.799 I was like, yeah, I don't know if you had 0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:32.360 to say that. I don't even know the point of 0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:35.280 saying it. But I think mainly in corporate and maybe 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:38.799 not very small smaller well, I don't want to say 0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:41.080 an entrepreneurs. I don't know, but I do see. I 0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:44.040 guess if you're not at the higher level, you see 0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:46.279 that more because I don't even think the executives be 0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:47.160 like I'm the boss. 0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:50.239 No, but like look at Connell from Our Heart, Yeah, 0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:53.240 he was hugging everybody and chilling I'm like, what the 0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:55.920 I don't know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you know that's 0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:58.239 the thing too. I feel like there's this middle of 0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:00.000 success when you try to prove yourself. I can only 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.279 related to this. When I was kind of getting some 0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:05.000 decent money. I wanted to wear leubatons. I wanted to 0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:08.160 wear my fucking one Louis buiton bag everywhere. I needed 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:10.200 to throw it in your face. Yeah. Now I'm kind 0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:12.120 of like, you know what I mean, Like, I don't know. 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:14.799 Yeah, Well that's how I feel about Montessori School right now. 0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:16.839 Every time I see someone, I'm like, I pay two 0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:18.759 thousand dollars a month for my one year old to 0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:22.120 go to school. I should just have it as a 0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:24.560 billboard at this point. Oh bro, I feel like I'm 0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:28.160 luxury and that's really probably a regular person thing. But 0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:29.960 I'm like, now, that's. 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:33.200 That's better than they care, you know. 0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:36.960 I literally, but I brag about it, like and I'm 0:55:36.960 --> 0:55:39.439 pretty I saw some comedian talk about like how when 0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:42.160 black people brag when they're rich, Asian people bragg when 0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:43.879 they're rich, and how white people brag when they're rich, 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:46.359 and I was like, yeah, I'm definitely the black person 0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:47.560 that was like, I pay two games. 0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:51.480 I try to find ways in a point where I'm 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:55.279 feeling a little inferior. Yeah, sometimes people you never know 0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:57.840 they're making my like it's I can't explain it. But 0:55:57.880 --> 0:55:59.560 there's moments where people will make you feel like you 0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:01.839 don't below in the room there. Yeah. Yeah, that's when 0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:04.879 I might do a little bit of really. Oh yeah, 0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:08.560 I'm trying to think the last time I haven't I 0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:10.359 had this story. I told im horrible. It's on our 0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:14.160 Patreon where I came back from Paris and I was 0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:16.880 hanging in this Beyonce and jay Z party. It was 0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:19.200 very small, like thirty people, and after that you couldn't 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:20.759 tell me shit. It was me and Alex. I was like, 0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:24.680 fuck you bitch with like, you know, in the air together. 0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:27.879 So I just kept finding ways to bring it up. 0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.279 So we went to like some Spotify dinner that week 0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:33.640 and everybody's just like, oh, horrible decisions. Never heard of it. Yes, 0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:36.920 actually I've been to France. Not that you asked, was 0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:40.919 there or whatever, but like, I'll be trying to figure 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:42.279 out a way, but I don't know. And I think 0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.840 that's kind of when you do have and I know 0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:47.560 that I came from something, so I just can't say 0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:49.480 it came from nothing. But like when you had that struggle, 0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:51.080 you want to know, you want people to know I 0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.160 belong here too, Yeah, because I have a lot of 0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:56.080 hell of privileged people that I know that don't really 0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:59.040 have that that driver or the that that. 0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.160 They're the backstory, they don't need to. 0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:07.799 Like I hang with this really rich girl sometimes when 0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:10.640 I'm in LA like grew up rich. I think her 0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:15.400 family's got a fucking castle somewhere. And I never really 0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:18.560 see her tell you anything about her life because she 0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:22.320 realizes it's so it's not part of her story. Like 0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.200 everything she's experienced isn't exciting. Like when I told her 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:28.720 about the Beyonce and jay Z thing, She's like, oh yeah. 0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:31.160 I'm like, well you met them before. She's like, yeah, 0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:32.680 well I used to hang with the Rnall's when I 0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:34.200 was a kid who own LVMA. 0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:35.320 That's hilarious. 0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:38.800 And I'm like, okay if it's trying to know the bitch, 0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:42.880 but like you know, so, I'm like, oh, I wonder 0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:44.880 if it kind of shows that you don't really have much. 0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:47.640 But what I appreciate is like people that can enjoy 0:57:47.720 --> 0:57:49.480 with you, like The first person I called after the 0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:52.160 Beyonce and jay Z night was Charlotta Magne over to 0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:53.840 bed with his wife, who was eleven thirty at night. 0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:55.560 Me and Alex are drunk in the street in parents. 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:58.560 I'm like, oh, I tell somebody, And he was so 0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:01.440 excited and laughed and he's like now, I'm like, bruh. 0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.480 The next time I see them one by name, but 0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:06.680 they put it home the Bitch for Paris, and it's 0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:09.400 just this cool, exciting milestone. But maybe I will get 0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:11.360 to the place where it doesn't matter anymore. I don't know. 0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:12.160 I hope not. 0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:17.880 No, no, no no. So now that you've traveled the world, 0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:23.360 you own companies, you're flying your family out, What advice 0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:28.480 would you give to someone that would even just in 0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:30.600 my shoes? You know? What advice would you give to 0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:34.040 someone that's playing hasn't fully taken off the ground yet 0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:36.320 and they've been hovering for a long time. 0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:39.840 I would say, thinking bigger than the biggest thing you're 0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:44.520 thinking of. I think that we sell ourselves short a lot. 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:47.920 Whether it be I don't know, this is just made 0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:51.320 me thinking right. Eating While Broke is currently a podcast, 0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:53.480 it seems like next up is TV show that seems 0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:54.360 like what that is? Right? 0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:57.760 But I also want to do touring, which eighty five 0:58:57.880 --> 0:59:00.360 South has been like just do it, but he's like 0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:03.560 hell no, And eighty five for South is like do 0:59:03.840 --> 0:59:04.439 that shit? 0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:06.040 Why does Allie say now. 0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:09.720 She thinks I need to spend more time growing my 0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:14.360 audience like baby steps and then but I low key 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:17.840 secretly want to do ice cube in LA, I would. 0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:21.120 Tell you for this piece of advice, then I would say, 0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:23.280 you do it in the middle. You do one show. 0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:26.120 You do one show in your hometown or where your 0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:28.920 largest base of audience is, and that's LA, right assuming Yeah, 0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:31.120 so it's like you do your LA show, you don't tour, 0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:33.600 You do your LA show. You practice, you get your 0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:35.760 biggest fan based there, you already have all your friends come. 0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:38.040 It's probably where all the talent you know is. So 0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:41.160 you do it right there in LA. After you do that, 0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:44.680 then you kind of get your feet wet or this 0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:49.480 space is semi big. Make a Patreon or invite your 0:59:49.520 --> 0:59:54.040 top fans. Write fifteen fans, really and write fifteen fans, 0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:57.880 have them sit and watch, laugh with you. Maybe put 0:59:57.880 --> 1:00:00.280 the ingredients out there and be like this that's what 1:00:00.280 --> 1:00:02.280 I got y'all gonna help me make this meal. Maybe 1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.480 they just shout at you and they share stories with you. 1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:08.080 When you, guys did your Patreon, what were you what 1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:10.439 was your first Like, did you even think you would 1:00:10.440 --> 1:00:12.000 make money when you first did the patreon? 1:00:12.240 --> 1:00:15.360 No, we make way too much on Patreon now. I 1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:19.160 mean I'm sure like there you know, there's patreons bigger 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:20.600 than me. But like we did it before. I think 1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:22.640 we were one of the first black popular podcasts that 1:00:22.680 --> 1:00:25.080 we know on there, Like we had our first year 1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:28.520 of year seven, I mean the first year of year seven, 1:00:28.840 --> 1:00:30.360 and we only did it to make more money for 1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:32.400 the studio. Mandy and I were like, this shit costing 1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:34.640 too much. We ain't making no money. A friend of 1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:36.720 mine was like, have you heard of l Chapo trap 1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:39.000 House something like that, It's like a white podcast. I 1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:41.080 was like no, He's like, they make like ninety ground Patreon. 1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:42.240 You should. 1:00:42.560 --> 1:00:44.880 You guys were like, dude, du what's that right? 1:00:45.240 --> 1:00:46.800 I mean, shit, we don't make ninety, but we do 1:00:46.920 --> 1:00:47.440 make twenty. 1:00:47.680 --> 1:00:50.240 Get the hang out on Patreon mm hm, get the. 1:00:50.360 --> 1:00:54.280 But to be honest, though, our Patreon, like we started 1:00:54.280 --> 1:00:57.120 a high very early of people that really resonated with 1:00:57.160 --> 1:00:59.840 Mandy and I because we were corporate girls talking about 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:01.880 and it was kind of the life that if you 1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:03.560 didn't live it, you'd want to live it, or you 1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:06.280 could see yourself living it like host stories while like 1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:09.280 being overdraft and are you know, being at your desk whatever. 1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:11.800 So we made Patreon. It was to get extra money 1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:15.240 for filming. I remember a thousand dollars a month feeling perfect. 1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:18.200 Hell, yeah that's not I know that sounds small. 1:01:20.000 --> 1:01:24.080 So when it got higher, Mandy and I just started 1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:27.320 spelling more of our personal lives on Patreon, and it 1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:29.680 became like we were just talking to fans instead of 1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:33.440 like doing a show. You know, like we have so 1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:35.640 so many guests now that people that really fucked with 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:39.480 Mandy and Wheezy they want Patreon. Like a lot of 1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:42.720 people enjoy those episodes more. I I love like a 1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:45.280 better looking set, but I get it, Mandy and I'd 1:01:45.320 --> 1:01:47.360 be on zoom, I'd be hungover shit. I think I 1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.680 was still mollied out on one episode. I was like, 1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:53.280 oh my god, you guys didn't sleep anyway, Like people 1:01:53.360 --> 1:01:55.720 like that shit when you're very raw, and so we 1:01:55.760 --> 1:01:58.360 offer that. So it's something different. But yeah, I wouldn't 1:01:58.360 --> 1:02:01.720 write your closest fans if it's not Patreon right now, 1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:03.920 figure out where you talk to them the most, have 1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:05.280 them come and watch well. 1:02:05.360 --> 1:02:08.320 I think this season is the most I've seen fans 1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:10.920 reach out, which, by the way, I'm absolutely shocked. I'll 1:02:10.920 --> 1:02:13.760 get a DM like please don't stop, please don't quit. 1:02:14.320 --> 1:02:17.440 We love this s yeah, or like I promise you're 1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:20.640 asking the questions that we want you and I'll be like, 1:02:20.720 --> 1:02:23.240 thank you, because I for sure had a shitty day 1:02:23.320 --> 1:02:25.640 today and I really want to jump off a bridge, 1:02:25.640 --> 1:02:29.320 but that message just like literally, I know it's random, 1:02:29.400 --> 1:02:34.000 but help them. Yeah, I'm like, you taketed the right time, 1:02:34.000 --> 1:02:36.320 and I will respond that like, yo, the time. It 1:02:36.360 --> 1:02:39.960 couldn't have been better, thank you for saving my life. 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:45.040 With fans too, Like we look at other people's numbers 1:02:45.520 --> 1:02:48.040 and comparison is a thief and joy. 1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:50.840 Oh, I definitely do. I'll be like, look at them, 1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:53.160 but you know now I look at y'all, and I'll 1:02:53.160 --> 1:02:56.360 be like, take notes. People's changed. 1:02:58.080 --> 1:03:01.280 When we're in line to them, right, Like I remember 1:03:01.280 --> 1:03:03.640 when car her daddy made the sixty thousand dollars or 1:03:03.720 --> 1:03:08.280 sixty million, right, and I was like oh my god, 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:10.040 I'll never get me. I was saying shit like that. 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:13.640 I don't have that. I'm like this podcast makes how much? 1:03:13.920 --> 1:03:16.280 Like why am I talking like this? You know? And 1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:19.200 we really have to pour into ourselves better because we 1:03:19.520 --> 1:03:21.880 always are looking at something else. I do it with 1:03:21.920 --> 1:03:25.680 my body doing my hair shit, I was almost like, 1:03:25.720 --> 1:03:27.200 oh my god, my hair is not rain different. The 1:03:27.520 --> 1:03:29.919 got my hair, like thinking about all this little shit 1:03:29.960 --> 1:03:32.920 that doesn't fucking matter, and it's like we need to 1:03:33.000 --> 1:03:36.000 really learn how to be happy with ourselves because like, 1:03:36.360 --> 1:03:49.240 I think social media has fucked me up. I'm getting 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:54.280 way better at it, but like body, hair, clothes and 1:03:54.360 --> 1:03:57.040 success are all the things I see on Instagram and 1:03:57.080 --> 1:04:00.440 think I'm not doing well enough with and this is 1:04:00.480 --> 1:04:02.800 fucked up, but it did happen to me. I went 1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:06.080 to solid Core, which is this like plate's ish cool 1:04:06.480 --> 1:04:10.000 thing to do. It's in La Chicago, New York, Big Cities, Atlanta, 1:04:10.880 --> 1:04:12.680 and there's a girl on Instagram I follow that. I 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:15.680 always thought she was like so fucking insanely hot. When 1:04:15.720 --> 1:04:17.640 I was in the workout, she was right next to 1:04:17.680 --> 1:04:20.800 me and I recognized her halfway through. She was really struggling. 1:04:21.400 --> 1:04:23.040 And it's not like it's something to make fun of. 1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:24.960 You're already working out. But I got in the car 1:04:25.000 --> 1:04:27.680 and I thought, oh my god, I have I'm stronger 1:04:27.680 --> 1:04:29.680 than I thought. I was right. I'm looking at this 1:04:29.720 --> 1:04:31.840 girl all the time on my timeline, thinking she's the 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:34.040 baddest bitch in the world. And I had something like 1:04:34.080 --> 1:04:35.600 she even said to me. I was like, damn bitch, 1:04:35.600 --> 1:04:37.760 she was getting it right. We don't know each other, 1:04:37.840 --> 1:04:39.840 and I was like, wow, there's something we all have 1:04:39.960 --> 1:04:42.680 that someone else doesn't. So when you're looking and you're 1:04:42.720 --> 1:04:48.400 thinking that, it's not shit me. I want kids so bad. Really, yes, 1:04:48.520 --> 1:04:50.439 I would love to have kids like I would love 1:04:50.480 --> 1:04:52.600 to have in mind over to you for a weekend. 1:04:52.680 --> 1:04:54.440 Oh my mom would love to watch over. My mom 1:04:54.600 --> 1:04:55.720 love taking somebody baby. 1:04:55.760 --> 1:04:58.040 Oh really, Oh she's in LA. That's perfect because I 1:04:58.040 --> 1:05:00.600 ain't got no family in I pay minute away. 1:05:00.600 --> 1:05:02.600 Well, my mom will act like it's an inconvenience, but 1:05:02.640 --> 1:05:04.720 she can't wait to do it. Let me watch your baby, 1:05:05.680 --> 1:05:07.040 Colleen called me, and now I've got to watch this 1:05:07.120 --> 1:05:08.920 damn baby. Now'll get in the house, baby prude. Anyway, 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:13.120 I'll talk to you later. Like she loves taking somebody's 1:05:13.160 --> 1:05:15.880 problems on her kids or anything, and like, yeah, but 1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:17.760 I think about that. I think. Uh. I was at 1:05:17.800 --> 1:05:22.480 a friend's kids graduation, her daughter graduately needs her, and 1:05:22.520 --> 1:05:24.560 I was like, like three people had asked me for 1:05:24.640 --> 1:05:27.400 a picture when I was in an auditorium, and I 1:05:27.400 --> 1:05:30.520 remember thinking like, I wonder if they think I'm like 1:05:30.600 --> 1:05:32.360 living this cool ass like but somebody was like, damn, 1:05:32.360 --> 1:05:34.240 you came from LA to be here. Someone said that 1:05:34.280 --> 1:05:36.200 to me, and I was like, when I could like 1:05:36.520 --> 1:05:38.120 die to be one of the parents in the front. 1:05:38.400 --> 1:05:41.160 Oh wow, But you never know, right, like you there's 1:05:41.200 --> 1:05:43.720 always something we all want. Yeah, I think we all 1:05:43.720 --> 1:05:45.960 need that little drama in our lives to keep going. 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:48.520 You think so oh like the when you say drama, 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:50.000 like the need to want something more? 1:05:50.880 --> 1:05:53.120 Yeah, how are we going to be on an autopilot 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:55.000 if we have all we want? Like what do you want? 1:05:55.560 --> 1:05:57.600 I want this guy's limit. It's funny though, because I 1:05:57.680 --> 1:05:59.640 used to always want like the marriage and the baby 1:05:59.640 --> 1:06:02.160 because I felt like I was good at business and 1:06:02.200 --> 1:06:04.720 then I just sucked at personal. But now that I 1:06:04.760 --> 1:06:08.000 experienced marriage and the baby, I'm like, I think I'm 1:06:08.040 --> 1:06:10.600 gonna stay in my business life because I suck at it. 1:06:10.600 --> 1:06:12.240 It's just like, yo, you know what, I have to 1:06:12.320 --> 1:06:14.800 chop it up to Like, it's just not my forte. 1:06:14.960 --> 1:06:17.320 I don't know why I can't master my personal but 1:06:17.440 --> 1:06:17.760 I could. 1:06:18.160 --> 1:06:20.760 It's tough. We all can't because it's not something you 1:06:20.800 --> 1:06:21.520 can control. 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:24.960 Yeah, yeah, maybe that's it. Because I feel like in business, 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:27.000 like I will pivot the fuck if it's not working, 1:06:27.160 --> 1:06:31.600 pivot again, pivot again. But then in my personal I'd 1:06:31.640 --> 1:06:34.000 be like, oh, you went left. I don't even know what. 1:06:34.000 --> 1:06:37.959 To Say's tough. Money we can control, Like I feel 1:06:38.000 --> 1:06:39.560 like I can make a million dollars easier than I 1:06:39.560 --> 1:06:41.600 can find a good person to date. I mean, it's 1:06:41.640 --> 1:06:44.360 fucked up to say that, but I really do believe that. 1:06:44.400 --> 1:06:47.280 I feel like when it's things you can control, like 1:06:47.640 --> 1:06:50.320 you can't control money. Let's say, like right, like there's 1:06:50.320 --> 1:06:52.160 people out there that are working hard at fucking are 1:06:52.160 --> 1:06:55.280 not getting there, but like you could possibly take up 1:06:55.280 --> 1:06:57.160 another hustle to buy somewhere money. 1:06:57.200 --> 1:06:57.400 Yeah. 1:06:57.440 --> 1:07:00.160 For all was taking pictures out of Oho Pizzeria on 1:07:00.200 --> 1:07:02.240 the side because they would give me one hundred dollars 1:07:02.280 --> 1:07:04.720 a night, okay for five hours, and I would just 1:07:04.760 --> 1:07:07.320 take pictures, pictures, and I would flip them a little bit. 1:07:07.400 --> 1:07:09.040 You know what I'm saying. The pictures of fifteen, but 1:07:09.040 --> 1:07:13.120 i'd tell people with twenty Yeah, yeah, that's like finding 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:15.240 that hustle. I was on Craigslist looking for gig jobs. 1:07:15.240 --> 1:07:18.600 That was a caddy girl one day. Like I told 1:07:18.600 --> 1:07:19.120 you that. 1:07:19.400 --> 1:07:21.560 But that's what I'm saying. Like, do you think now, 1:07:21.560 --> 1:07:24.320 do you think entrepreneurs are like born out the womb 1:07:24.800 --> 1:07:26.440 or do you think they could go to college and 1:07:26.440 --> 1:07:27.800 then become an entrepreneur. 1:07:28.360 --> 1:07:32.160 I don't think entrepreneurs are for everyone. Yeah, because I 1:07:32.160 --> 1:07:38.200 think it's too exhausting. Yeah, Like I think working a 1:07:38.320 --> 1:07:40.360 nine to five, I think the goal for me, before 1:07:40.440 --> 1:07:43.400 realizing I wanted to be an entrepreneur, I wanted to 1:07:43.480 --> 1:07:46.120 make two fifty at a corporate time. 1:07:46.280 --> 1:07:47.720 I'm still praying to hit that too fuch at a 1:07:47.760 --> 1:07:50.440 corporate job. Oh, at a corporate that to me would. 1:07:50.200 --> 1:07:52.880 Have made me not do anything else. Okay, because the 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:55.040 one seventy five was great. I was living in a 1:07:55.120 --> 1:07:57.920 great apartment and traveling, but my parents needed help and 1:07:57.960 --> 1:07:59.720 I was like, oh, I need more money for my parents. 1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:02.160 If I had two fifty, that's money I could have 1:08:02.200 --> 1:08:03.640 to help them and if I want to have a kid, 1:08:03.680 --> 1:08:06.440 I can live in this money. But mind you in 1:08:06.480 --> 1:08:09.360 New York. Yeah yeah, like two fifty in another city 1:08:09.440 --> 1:08:10.320 might be a million dollars. 1:08:10.440 --> 1:08:10.840 Yeah. 1:08:10.880 --> 1:08:14.200 My rent even then was twenty five d It's crazy, bro. Yeah, 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:18.040 But I say all that to say nine to fivers 1:08:18.120 --> 1:08:20.320 are making a lot more money than entrepreneurs. Yeah, you 1:08:20.360 --> 1:08:22.759 know what I'm saying. Entrepreneurs are out here really struggling. 1:08:22.800 --> 1:08:24.840 It's tough. But I think it's because some people are 1:08:24.920 --> 1:08:26.880 chasing a dream that they think they should do when 1:08:26.880 --> 1:08:27.720 really that's not it. 1:08:28.840 --> 1:08:32.080 How would they identify the dream that is it though, 1:08:32.240 --> 1:08:34.479 and from the dream that isn't I. 1:08:34.400 --> 1:08:37.519 Think one if it feels like a passion, are you 1:08:37.560 --> 1:08:41.120 happy doing it? Like? Are you doing it because you 1:08:41.160 --> 1:08:43.360 actually love this? Like? Why do you love making? Eating? 1:08:43.360 --> 1:08:43.559 While? 1:08:43.560 --> 1:08:43.720 Bro? 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:48.519 I just love great rags to riches stories, Like I 1:08:48.560 --> 1:08:50.479 have some rich friends and they always tell me they 1:08:50.479 --> 1:08:53.479 were like in jail somewhere or they were selling as somewhere, 1:08:53.479 --> 1:08:56.280 And I'm like, wait, you and you live in the 1:08:56.360 --> 1:08:59.720 seven thousand square foot mansion in La Oh, tell me more. 1:08:59.760 --> 1:09:01.760 And I just love it. Like I would hang out 1:09:01.920 --> 1:09:05.320 and I just love the stories. I'd be like okay, 1:09:05.520 --> 1:09:06.000 but you know. 1:09:06.240 --> 1:09:09.640 And I would say then with your audience and feeling inspired. 1:09:09.760 --> 1:09:12.200 But I was definitely lucky because I felt like the 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:14.720 friends that I have, like if I'm like, Damn, this 1:09:14.800 --> 1:09:17.000 bill was high, I'd be like, you wouldn't understand it, 1:09:17.080 --> 1:09:18.639 be like try me. I'd be like a thousand bucks 1:09:18.680 --> 1:09:21.120 to be like, Nope, that bill's high. You know, I 1:09:21.479 --> 1:09:24.800 really and they'd be like, no, it's high, you know. 1:09:25.000 --> 1:09:27.519 And so luckily I was fortunate to be with some 1:09:27.600 --> 1:09:30.800 friends that really like that. I felt like, damn, you're 1:09:30.840 --> 1:09:32.519 hanging out with me, Like if you and I hung out, 1:09:32.880 --> 1:09:35.479 I would be lowkey geeked just because you have a 1:09:35.479 --> 1:09:37.920 great personality, but I would also be lowkey geeked because 1:09:37.920 --> 1:09:40.080 I'm like, I look up to you, like I definitely 1:09:40.080 --> 1:09:40.680 admire you. 1:09:40.760 --> 1:09:43.200 You feel like that with people sometimes where I'm like, 1:09:44.320 --> 1:09:48.360 are we like we're peers? Right? No matter if maybe 1:09:48.400 --> 1:09:50.519 like maybe my podcast has been going on longer than yours, 1:09:50.560 --> 1:09:52.320 You're like, oh, that's what I'm gonna get, Like, it's 1:09:52.320 --> 1:09:53.080 still peers. 1:09:53.240 --> 1:09:55.920 Well you're more than just a pot Like in my eyes, 1:09:56.840 --> 1:09:59.479 well you and Mandy accomplished was great, But you gotta 1:09:59.520 --> 1:10:02.799 think you're a beautiful, attractive woman in the entertainment industry. 1:10:02.840 --> 1:10:05.479 I have sidebar conversations all the time. I'll leave a meeting, 1:10:05.520 --> 1:10:07.240 I'll be like, this person wants to fuck, and my 1:10:07.280 --> 1:10:08.840 friends will be like, how do you know, and be like, bro, 1:10:09.320 --> 1:10:11.120 I've been in this game way too long. I can 1:10:11.160 --> 1:10:14.280 tell by the questions the hints they want to fuck, 1:10:14.360 --> 1:10:17.439 and then I gotta navigate that. So to be attractive woman, Okay, 1:10:17.880 --> 1:10:20.679 then you're an entertainment. Then you're an entrepreneurs, then you're 1:10:20.760 --> 1:10:23.360 handling all this business. Then you're sale. When I hear sales, 1:10:23.400 --> 1:10:25.559 nothing excites me, you know how you get when I 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:27.400 hear a girl could sell, I'll be like, oh, this 1:10:27.439 --> 1:10:30.160 is a it says, this is a real, real time, 1:10:30.280 --> 1:10:34.040 you know. But so I look at someone like you 1:10:34.120 --> 1:10:36.040 and I'm like, yeah, I would definitely be in awe 1:10:36.360 --> 1:10:39.760 like you know, like you know geeks, and same with 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:42.040 my friends. Like I have my homie day Storm. I'll 1:10:42.040 --> 1:10:44.200 hang out in his house or whatever. He literally will 1:10:44.200 --> 1:10:46.200 only hang out when we work out, which sucks because 1:10:46.280 --> 1:10:52.400 his workouts are absolutely terrifyingly terriblely hard workouts. Were Like, 1:10:52.439 --> 1:10:53.920 if I want to have a talk with day Storm, 1:10:53.920 --> 1:10:55.720 I'm like I'll be at your house have four to 1:10:55.760 --> 1:10:58.280 work out, and it'll be the worst workout of the century, 1:10:58.360 --> 1:11:01.880 you know, But I still look up to him, and 1:11:01.920 --> 1:11:04.240 I'll still be like geeks like yo, I could walk 1:11:04.280 --> 1:11:06.719 into your house or borrow your house for the weekend. 1:11:06.840 --> 1:11:09.320 And but I, even though we're friends, I still look 1:11:09.400 --> 1:11:11.720 up to you, and you're vulnerable. But they're the real 1:11:11.760 --> 1:11:16.560 inspiration behind my show. They're realize stories and realize advice. 1:11:16.320 --> 1:11:19.160 And honestly sharing that to the world and then you 1:11:19.280 --> 1:11:22.719 receiving that fan feedback and things like that, like having 1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:25.120 the passion that making you feel good learning in the 1:11:25.120 --> 1:11:28.240 middle of your job. That's how you know you keep going, 1:11:28.760 --> 1:11:31.280 you know what I'm saying. But also I think the 1:11:31.400 --> 1:11:35.240 largest mistake entrepreneurs make is if they have a regular 1:11:35.280 --> 1:11:37.400 job or a steady gig, they leave it for the 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:41.439 passion before the passion flourishes. Yeah, and I didn't do that, 1:11:41.520 --> 1:11:44.200 Like I was working eighty hours a week doing horrible 1:11:44.280 --> 1:11:47.280 and you know, literally coming in with my suitcase to 1:11:47.320 --> 1:11:48.960 the office, like, oh, I went to go see my parents, 1:11:48.960 --> 1:11:51.400 but really I had a fucking four hundred seat show 1:11:51.439 --> 1:11:53.759 that we fell down, and like that. Today is different 1:11:53.760 --> 1:11:57.479 now it's double right and it feels great, but like, nah, 1:11:57.479 --> 1:12:01.840 I had to do both. I think living in the 1:12:01.960 --> 1:12:07.000 entertainment industry today is interesting because it could be anybody, right, Like, 1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:12.160 influencers have really ruined fame? You think so? Yes, I 1:12:12.200 --> 1:12:13.080 guess I could see that. 1:12:13.479 --> 1:12:15.839 It's weird because I see, like I feel like they're 1:12:15.880 --> 1:12:17.760 self made and they work very hard, like when you 1:12:17.760 --> 1:12:20.240 look at the behind those scenes, they work hard. But 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:22.760 I definitely will say I don't know. I would like 1:12:22.800 --> 1:12:24.000 to hear your perspective on it. 1:12:24.280 --> 1:12:32.040 I think influencers ruined fame because not saying that they're talentless, 1:12:33.200 --> 1:12:36.360 but content creation as a form of a talent. Like 1:12:36.960 --> 1:12:40.120 if the Internet is gone, then where do you take 1:12:40.160 --> 1:12:42.160 it and what do you do with it? You know, 1:12:42.200 --> 1:12:44.120 I have a big influencer that reached out to me. 1:12:44.560 --> 1:12:46.640 They're not going broke or anything like they're making like 1:12:46.920 --> 1:12:50.519 maybe thirty fortieth posts, but they reached out to me 1:12:50.560 --> 1:12:52.880 and we're like, I need you to have dinner with 1:12:52.920 --> 1:12:54.360 me or some shit and influence me to do some 1:12:54.479 --> 1:12:57.479 other shit. Because I realized this is like just what 1:12:57.520 --> 1:12:59.320 if Instagram doesn't want me to do as anymore? What 1:12:59.360 --> 1:13:03.200 if Instagram's advertisements for influencers, what if the hashtag goes away? 1:13:03.240 --> 1:13:05.680 Like she was terrified, and it was when TikTok was 1:13:05.680 --> 1:13:08.320 about to get banned or something, and I was like, damn. 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:10.840 I'm like, I don't know. Half of my naves are 1:13:10.960 --> 1:13:13.559 off of higi ads. But she was right, like I 1:13:13.600 --> 1:13:16.799 didn't do anything else. I've just been learning this one skill, 1:13:17.200 --> 1:13:19.479 and that shit is tough because, like, I don't know, 1:13:19.479 --> 1:13:22.720 I wouldn't want my kids to be an influencer. I 1:13:22.720 --> 1:13:25.040 think it also inflates when I say they ruined fame, 1:13:25.200 --> 1:13:28.720 like you have movie stars, actors, actresses, and even podcasters 1:13:28.840 --> 1:13:30.639 big fame. To me, like, it's not real. 1:13:31.240 --> 1:13:33.920 Well, I've seen people too that will get like ten 1:13:33.960 --> 1:13:36.639 thousand followers and they all already switch up. I'm like, yo, 1:13:36.680 --> 1:13:39.519 if your bank accounts still read zero, who gives a 1:13:39.560 --> 1:13:40.639 fuck about some likes? 1:13:40.720 --> 1:13:43.560 But the same shit is weird because the likes and 1:13:43.600 --> 1:13:45.559 all this stuff makes you think you're better than you 1:13:45.600 --> 1:13:49.400 are when there's so many more of you, So you 1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:51.400 really have to find a thing that makes you different. 1:13:51.560 --> 1:13:54.080 Like I'm gonna be honest, I follow so many girls 1:13:54.160 --> 1:13:55.920 that are just hot and kind of look the same 1:13:56.160 --> 1:13:58.320 because of their clothes, or their workouts or whatever. I 1:13:58.360 --> 1:14:01.920 don't think I know their names. Really. No. I remember 1:14:02.000 --> 1:14:04.559 sitting at Lucy and it's my favorite restaurant New York. 1:14:04.560 --> 1:14:06.760 I always go there in the East Village and I 1:14:06.800 --> 1:14:09.120 was looking at this girl and I tapped her and 1:14:09.160 --> 1:14:10.960 I was like, do I know you? Do we have 1:14:11.000 --> 1:14:13.479 a school together? Genuinely didn't know. I feel like I 1:14:13.560 --> 1:14:17.320 know you, And she was like, oh, I'm an influencer. 1:14:18.000 --> 1:14:19.720 I was like, maybe I follow you. What's your name? 1:14:20.080 --> 1:14:22.639 Didn't ring a bell? Looked at it and I was like, damn, 1:14:22.680 --> 1:14:24.559 I've been following this bitter a minute. But that's it. 1:14:24.560 --> 1:14:27.200 You're not even connecting to the content. Yeah, because it's 1:14:27.240 --> 1:14:30.200 just grid post after grid post ups or something something. 1:14:30.439 --> 1:14:34.320 That's why people like just hilarious Drew Ski a Pretty 1:14:34.439 --> 1:14:38.040 V they fucking stick out because we know what they're doing. 1:14:38.479 --> 1:14:42.040 Yeah and they yeah, but those are also like I know. Well, 1:14:42.240 --> 1:14:44.200 I'll say for Pretty V because we had her aunt, 1:14:44.320 --> 1:14:48.760 she's she's also hard. She's like a hustler too. I 1:14:48.800 --> 1:14:51.880 would say she's she's more of an entrepreneur than an influencer, 1:14:52.320 --> 1:14:54.479 even though she started that way. You know, you could 1:14:55.080 --> 1:14:57.640 feel the same with like Bi simone, but something. 1:14:57.320 --> 1:14:58.800 That they have, something that they do. 1:14:58.960 --> 1:15:02.240 But I will I honestly say like, and it could 1:15:02.320 --> 1:15:05.360 be just me vibed, but I would say almost ninety 1:15:05.720 --> 1:15:09.960 percent of my guests have true integrity. There's somewhere I'll 1:15:09.960 --> 1:15:12.599 be like after interview reraps, I'll be like, wow, I 1:15:12.680 --> 1:15:16.560 called bullshit and I won't say who, but there was 1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:18.759 a couple of episodes where my team I'll be like, damn, 1:15:18.760 --> 1:15:21.599 that was a bullshit, meaning like they looked bigger than 1:15:21.640 --> 1:15:23.479 what they were. And then when I got in, I 1:15:23.600 --> 1:15:25.519 was like, you don't know your shit, you're a fake. 1:15:25.960 --> 1:15:27.559 Maybe some people just get lucky. 1:15:27.840 --> 1:15:30.479 They got lucky, or they didn't name drop like hey, 1:15:30.520 --> 1:15:32.800 your baby mama helped you, or your mom helped you. 1:15:32.840 --> 1:15:34.880 Why wouldn't you give them the credit that they deserved. 1:15:35.360 --> 1:15:37.800 Get strange when people don't credit those that helped along 1:15:37.800 --> 1:15:38.440 the way. 1:15:38.520 --> 1:15:40.160 I think it's completely strange. 1:15:40.200 --> 1:15:40.960 Do you know one of them? 1:15:41.360 --> 1:15:43.160 By the way, if you're on my show and I 1:15:43.280 --> 1:15:45.920 catch it, I won't say it in front of the guests, 1:15:45.920 --> 1:15:47.960 but I will go me even the show raps, I'll 1:15:47.960 --> 1:15:51.120 be like, I called bullshit. They left out somebody because 1:15:51.160 --> 1:15:54.080 their story isn't adding up and I will literally you 1:15:54.080 --> 1:15:55.960 could ask my crew, I will. 1:15:55.800 --> 1:15:57.400 Be wait, it was mine, the sugar daddy. 1:15:59.520 --> 1:16:02.080 Your your story was as real as they get. But 1:16:02.160 --> 1:16:04.640 you know, you know you could tell because they'll be 1:16:04.680 --> 1:16:07.120 a missing gap. You know, they'll be like some part 1:16:07.120 --> 1:16:09.080 of the story where you'd be like that that didn't 1:16:09.160 --> 1:16:11.800 line up. There's something missing there. I can always tell 1:16:11.880 --> 1:16:13.760 because I like, well, you. 1:16:13.720 --> 1:16:16.240 Know, sometimes the struggle isn't what people like to show, 1:16:16.320 --> 1:16:17.679 right the highlight reels that they. 1:16:17.760 --> 1:16:20.280 Need to show the struggle on this show. On this show, 1:16:20.320 --> 1:16:23.960 you gotta tell me credit your wife. 1:16:24.280 --> 1:16:26.120 If you're not giving other people their flower, it never 1:16:26.160 --> 1:16:29.519 takes from you. I was gonna say to you, Charlott 1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:31.360 MANE makes me do that more than anyone like. It 1:16:31.439 --> 1:16:34.120 makes me thank my team so much. Like I've never 1:16:34.200 --> 1:16:37.760 seen anyone be so gracious towards those around him, even 1:16:37.800 --> 1:16:40.360 when I pay him a compliment, just no one else 1:16:40.400 --> 1:16:43.880 around Damn you kill this shit man. That was some 1:16:44.200 --> 1:16:48.000 So I'm like, oh, okay. 1:16:47.560 --> 1:16:50.120 I've never really I've seen Charlomagye one time. So I 1:16:50.240 --> 1:16:51.800 literally saw him, was like, thank you so much for 1:16:51.840 --> 1:16:52.640 everything you do for me. 1:16:52.920 --> 1:16:56.000 Have a good day. Wait, you just met him in Atlanta. 1:16:56.080 --> 1:16:57.920 Yeah, that was it, and that's all I said was 1:16:58.000 --> 1:16:58.679 thank you. 1:16:58.720 --> 1:17:04.639 What every Christian famous person like normal and authentic? And 1:17:05.479 --> 1:17:07.920 I think I made a joke on a podcast and 1:17:07.920 --> 1:17:10.280 I tested it once. I was like, man like, they 1:17:10.280 --> 1:17:13.760 were like, who do you think is someone that you've 1:17:13.800 --> 1:17:16.240 met that's a celebrity that you expected to be different? 1:17:16.800 --> 1:17:18.800 I was like, Charlomanne answers the phone every time. I 1:17:18.800 --> 1:17:21.360 think it's very strange. Yeah, because you're so like he's 1:17:21.360 --> 1:17:23.400 literally answered. I could hear him at the breakfast club. 1:17:23.680 --> 1:17:27.760 What's up? He's monnies me, Like, just really wants to 1:17:27.760 --> 1:17:30.280 make sure he's accessible to people that he cares about. 1:17:30.320 --> 1:17:33.439 And I think that's what's inspired me to be a 1:17:33.479 --> 1:17:37.639 really good leader and just all around good person when 1:17:37.640 --> 1:17:40.280 it comes to people that have paved the way, because like, 1:17:40.560 --> 1:17:42.439 we don't see that, we see a lot of I 1:17:42.960 --> 1:17:44.320 I I, yeah, you know. 1:17:44.400 --> 1:17:46.720 Well. Also, I think the cool thing about him is 1:17:46.760 --> 1:17:50.200 that he has like all black woman team pretty much, 1:17:50.800 --> 1:17:53.280 and he treats all those women great. Because I worked 1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:55.680 for other people and with other people in the industry 1:17:56.240 --> 1:17:58.200 and it ain't like that it's more of the boys club. 1:17:58.200 --> 1:18:01.200 I see the boy's sting blessed and them and getting dirty. 1:18:01.240 --> 1:18:04.719 And Charlemagne is very much again an authentic person. Yeah, 1:18:04.760 --> 1:18:07.080 Like I heard him on a I had a call 1:18:07.120 --> 1:18:11.479 with him for something else, and the other person on 1:18:11.479 --> 1:18:14.719 the other end of the call was very like, what's 1:18:14.760 --> 1:18:17.559 the word I'm looking for, almost like a shell of 1:18:17.560 --> 1:18:19.880 themselves trying to show you how great they are. Charlamagne 1:18:19.920 --> 1:18:23.840 was in a T shirt in South Carolina, I think 1:18:24.280 --> 1:18:26.280 visiting family, or maybe he was outside of his crib, 1:18:26.600 --> 1:18:28.200 but he was like on a chair on a porch, 1:18:28.439 --> 1:18:30.800 just looking like he was chilling, and everybody else is 1:18:30.840 --> 1:18:32.840 suited up, and he's like, y'all are so lucky for 1:18:32.880 --> 1:18:34.200 me to be on this call. Just I could tell 1:18:34.240 --> 1:18:36.600 you that's what he's thinking. And he's so much of 1:18:36.680 --> 1:18:40.080 himself and still giving you gems. And I was like, Wow, 1:18:40.479 --> 1:18:42.240 he didn't even feel the need to like do it 1:18:42.320 --> 1:18:45.160 up for some Hollywood people. Yeah, because he knows like this, 1:18:45.360 --> 1:18:49.120 his brand is so raw, and I think we have 1:18:49.240 --> 1:18:52.559 to be that way. We can't try to be this 1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:55.320 person that we think other people would like, because they'll 1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:57.679 smell it just like you did. And I'm saying people 1:18:57.720 --> 1:18:59.439 smell that all day every day. You could be a 1:18:59.479 --> 1:19:02.360 casualist that's in that YouTube that's like this person's a liar. 1:19:02.479 --> 1:19:03.960 Yeah, people clock it. Yeah. 1:19:04.080 --> 1:19:06.160 And for you to know that as someone that's bringing 1:19:06.160 --> 1:19:09.040 these people in, like, I think that says a lot. 1:19:09.560 --> 1:19:10.680 Yeah. 1:19:11.560 --> 1:19:13.600 Yeah, Eventually we'll get to the. 1:19:13.600 --> 1:19:16.400 Space where there's like I can actually call bullshit on 1:19:16.439 --> 1:19:19.760 the mic. I'm not there yet, I know, but there 1:19:19.760 --> 1:19:21.120 have been a couple where I'm like. 1:19:21.560 --> 1:19:26.599 Bull shit, what about you? Being like, there's gotta be. 1:19:26.560 --> 1:19:29.519 A oh I go in and you can tell because 1:19:29.520 --> 1:19:31.920 they won't answer the question. And that's how I know 1:19:31.960 --> 1:19:34.240 it's bullshit. I'll be like, Okay, you're just boy. I'll 1:19:34.240 --> 1:19:37.160 ask seven different ways. I'm like, Okay, I call bullshit, 1:19:37.200 --> 1:19:38.880 but I won't say it on the mic yet. I'm 1:19:38.880 --> 1:19:39.639 not there yet. 1:19:39.880 --> 1:19:44.040 Plus I guess I gotchast. They're like, oh, like be 1:19:44.120 --> 1:19:44.840 there for the moment. 1:19:45.200 --> 1:19:49.400 Yeah. And then also like there's the uncomfortable space, you 1:19:49.400 --> 1:19:51.960 know with our shows, like we dig into the vulnerability 1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:56.040 a little bit deep, and I like to say to 1:19:56.080 --> 1:19:58.200 everybody it's a safe space. Like if I think there's 1:19:58.240 --> 1:20:00.240 something that you're going to say on our show that 1:20:00.320 --> 1:20:02.280 I think is going to ruin your career or cancel 1:20:02.360 --> 1:20:04.800 you do. You don't even have to send your publicist 1:20:04.880 --> 1:20:06.880 or whoever over to like, oh my god, Colleen or 1:20:06.920 --> 1:20:09.280 beg me, I'm going to remove it just on game. 1:20:09.320 --> 1:20:11.040 I'm just you shared your story. 1:20:11.240 --> 1:20:15.000 I completely agree with you. I think that keeping those 1:20:15.000 --> 1:20:18.519 moments like I've seen Megan James, I mean, I don't 1:20:18.560 --> 1:20:20.599 want to talk too much shit. She's spent some money 1:20:20.600 --> 1:20:25.800 about WTS Studio, but there's some clips where I'm like, WHOA, yeah, 1:20:26.400 --> 1:20:29.320 you know, like I'm kind of surprised you invite someone 1:20:29.400 --> 1:20:32.400 in your space to like do that mm hm. And 1:20:32.479 --> 1:20:34.960 she's just sticking out of my mind right now. I'm 1:20:34.960 --> 1:20:37.880 not saying she's like a terrible person, but it's a 1:20:38.080 --> 1:20:43.280 it's a style interviewing that works for her. Maybe she's 1:20:43.360 --> 1:20:45.320 on more streams than almost who knows, but like, I 1:20:45.320 --> 1:20:46.439 don't know if I could do it. 1:20:46.640 --> 1:20:48.720 That's how I feel about, honestly, like Jason Lee, to 1:20:48.760 --> 1:20:50.320 be honest, I feel like some of the stuff he'd 1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:51.720 be doing, I'll be like, well maybe, And I have 1:20:51.800 --> 1:20:53.920 this conversation with my little brother all the time, and 1:20:53.960 --> 1:20:56.439 I'm always like, ego, maybe maybe I should sell out, 1:20:56.560 --> 1:20:58.640 Like because I look at such as such kind of 1:20:58.680 --> 1:21:00.439 like how you look at social media, like look at 1:21:00.479 --> 1:21:04.160 this person. It's like they're really honestly, like they don't 1:21:04.160 --> 1:21:06.479 give a fuck about anybody's career, you know, and then 1:21:06.520 --> 1:21:08.120 they Jason Lee. 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:10.680 At Charlemagne back in the day, I'm Magan James. I 1:21:10.720 --> 1:21:11.960 think you know what you're getting when you go on 1:21:11.960 --> 1:21:16.479 the door. Yeah, And I think people almost it's like 1:21:16.600 --> 1:21:19.400 ze Way. People would say, how the fuck does anyone 1:21:19.439 --> 1:21:20.120 keep going on there? 1:21:20.200 --> 1:21:22.200 Like, you know, I don't know what ze Way is, but. 1:21:22.280 --> 1:21:24.000 You don't know what she's the black girl that had 1:21:24.000 --> 1:21:26.120 the show on Showtime where she would ask people questions 1:21:26.120 --> 1:21:30.040 and like should Julia Fox. Charlemagne was a guest on there. 1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:31.320 She was her famous one. 1:21:32.320 --> 1:21:33.439 But what was she ask them? 1:21:34.160 --> 1:21:36.360 She would just ask them questions that would make them 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:40.000 look bad. Oh really, Like she showed Charlemgne a diagram 1:21:40.000 --> 1:21:41.599 and had them point out someone she was like, oh 1:21:41.640 --> 1:21:43.519 so you think that white people are superior type shit? 1:21:43.600 --> 1:21:45.400 Oh okay, But like it's like she was one of 1:21:45.400 --> 1:21:48.240 those and I think like people prepare themselves for those 1:21:48.520 --> 1:21:50.280 funny Marco. I don't know how people say. 1:21:50.120 --> 1:21:52.200 What that nerves is that the one is where the 1:21:52.240 --> 1:21:56.040 guy just says like insulting things or something kind of yeah, 1:21:56.160 --> 1:21:57.960 cause I saw that show and I was like, look, 1:21:58.000 --> 1:21:59.400 I just love that show period. 1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:00.919 Like it's content. 1:22:01.160 --> 1:22:02.840 Yeah, it's content is very good. 1:22:02.960 --> 1:22:05.400 I think maybe it's just content that I can't make. 1:22:05.439 --> 1:22:08.320 But you know, it's hard for me to push unless 1:22:08.320 --> 1:22:11.360 I think something's wrong, like I do. Man on the 1:22:11.360 --> 1:22:14.599 Street for my TV show a lot. Yesterday, this guy 1:22:14.800 --> 1:22:16.519 talked about how he had met a girl to work 1:22:16.600 --> 1:22:18.760 or do something, and I was like, he's black. Oh 1:22:18.800 --> 1:22:20.759 what kind of girls are dating? He's like, I prefer white. 1:22:22.000 --> 1:22:23.920 And then I can see the camera crewisers in the back, 1:22:24.000 --> 1:22:27.559 Like I really He was like, yeah, I just updated 1:22:27.560 --> 1:22:29.679 a black girl and they're really crazy. I was like, okay, 1:22:29.800 --> 1:22:33.280 so have you ever met a Karen? Were like, well, 1:22:33.320 --> 1:22:34.840 I don't think that type of way. Oh, but there 1:22:34.840 --> 1:22:35.880 are crazy white women. 1:22:36.240 --> 1:22:40.599 But basically right now, my future ex husband he loves 1:22:40.720 --> 1:22:44.120 white women. But his thing is that black women's standards 1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:48.400 are are higher or like, they're not as easy as 1:22:48.439 --> 1:22:51.160 a white girl, and so he lives for the white girls. 1:22:51.280 --> 1:22:53.040 He lives for the white girls. 1:22:53.080 --> 1:22:54.960 Literally only cheated on me with white women to the 1:22:55.000 --> 1:22:59.000 point that I was like, yeah, you're dating me, so 1:22:59.080 --> 1:23:01.639 your mom is happy. Yeah, And then I realized, oh, 1:23:01.640 --> 1:23:02.679 maybe I was just light. 1:23:02.560 --> 1:23:06.680 Skinning up, Like, do you This is completely random, but 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:08.600 I have a pet peeve about dating a guy that 1:23:08.720 --> 1:23:11.000 only dates mixed girls. I can't do it. 1:23:11.080 --> 1:23:11.800 I haven't missed. 1:23:11.840 --> 1:23:13.000 I feel like you haven't. 1:23:13.280 --> 1:23:16.000 Only I didn't know, Like you don't know until. 1:23:15.720 --> 1:23:18.040 You don't know, but when you find I know. For me, 1:23:18.280 --> 1:23:20.160 I just feel like there's a little bit of colorism 1:23:20.240 --> 1:23:22.600 issues there, Like dudes that are like I only like 1:23:22.720 --> 1:23:26.400 light skin I'm like, all right, I don't know, that's weird. 1:23:26.439 --> 1:23:28.760 But I started to think when my ex husband my 1:23:28.800 --> 1:23:34.160 future that maybe he maybe he genuinely just likes white 1:23:34.200 --> 1:23:37.639 girls and he's just saying that as like a cover up. No, 1:23:38.080 --> 1:23:39.280 I think you're right. 1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:45.599 He's like, hey, she light white in a different light, Yeah, exactly, 1:23:45.680 --> 1:23:48.519 like on some real shit. I think it's kind of 1:23:48.560 --> 1:23:50.680 scary because you really have to clock them as light 1:23:50.680 --> 1:23:52.600 skinn people. You gotta clock them as mixed girls like 1:23:52.920 --> 1:23:55.080 this shit is not cute for like a man that 1:23:55.120 --> 1:23:57.559 you're dating to only date. I had a guy telling 1:23:57.560 --> 1:24:00.800 me once that I was acting dark skin He told 1:24:00.800 --> 1:24:03.719 me it was crazy that my hair wasn't super curly 1:24:03.800 --> 1:24:06.320 like most mixed girls. Wow, And he was like, you 1:24:06.360 --> 1:24:09.840 talk different. Wow. Yeah I don't like that round. 1:24:12.200 --> 1:24:14.240 Yeah I don't. I won't. I won't. Well right now, 1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:17.479 thank god, I'm like one hundred percent focused on not dating, 1:24:17.479 --> 1:24:19.280 which is this is the longest I've ever been seeing. 1:24:19.280 --> 1:24:20.960 That's when they be coming too. I'll be trying to 1:24:20.960 --> 1:24:22.519 act like I'm not focused on dating. I'll walk in 1:24:22.560 --> 1:24:25.479 the club and be like, I'm not looking for anyone. 1:24:27.640 --> 1:24:29.880 I like how you be positioned in it too. 1:24:30.080 --> 1:24:33.800 I want to date so bad, man, but it's it's tough, 1:24:33.880 --> 1:24:35.000 and honestly. 1:24:35.360 --> 1:24:38.479 How do you juggle a breakup with a with a business. Honestly, 1:24:38.560 --> 1:24:40.639 I'm terrible. If it wasn't for my high school friends 1:24:40.680 --> 1:24:45.280 scooping me off the floor behind closed doors. Girl, he's gonna. 1:24:45.040 --> 1:24:47.960 Be okay, you know what I'm saying, Like, I have responsibilities, 1:24:48.040 --> 1:24:49.479 like hate to get more of it. But the only 1:24:49.520 --> 1:24:51.240 things that have kept me from killing myself is my 1:24:51.320 --> 1:24:54.200 dog and my team. And it's not because they're encouraging 1:24:54.240 --> 1:24:57.400 me to stay, you know. And it's like, hey, we 1:24:57.439 --> 1:24:59.000 need you to be alive so we can make money. 1:24:59.200 --> 1:25:01.160 But like, literally I think about them and I'm like 1:25:01.800 --> 1:25:03.160 one of the people that worked for me I recently 1:25:03.200 --> 1:25:06.280 found out used to be homeless and thanks me all 1:25:06.320 --> 1:25:08.080 the time for being able to do things for their 1:25:08.120 --> 1:25:12.320 mother now and like it's fucking wild. I get random 1:25:12.320 --> 1:25:14.120 texts from a lot of our staff at two in 1:25:14.160 --> 1:25:15.680 the morning, love working with you, and I'm like, all 1:25:15.680 --> 1:25:20.000 these niggas is wrong. It's such a good feeling. But 1:25:20.040 --> 1:25:21.599 I think about that. I think about that when I'm 1:25:21.640 --> 1:25:23.920 getting down on myself, like how dare you? Yeah, you 1:25:23.960 --> 1:25:26.240 know what I mean, Like, you are helping all of 1:25:26.280 --> 1:25:28.400 these people. I'm gonna leave my parents alone in the world. 1:25:28.560 --> 1:25:30.880 And when I tell you, my dog no bullshit. I 1:25:30.960 --> 1:25:32.760 was just being trauma queen one day. I was like, 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:34.280 I don't want to be here anymore. And I looked 1:25:34.280 --> 1:25:35.720 at her. I was like, who's gonna feed me up 1:25:37.160 --> 1:25:40.040 with those little things? Like really got to bring you back. 1:25:40.080 --> 1:25:42.720 But when running those businesses, I'm sure for people that 1:25:42.760 --> 1:25:45.760 are listening that only have themselves, you probably feel like, well, 1:25:45.760 --> 1:25:49.000 who do I fight for? You? Fight for your future self? 1:25:49.439 --> 1:25:49.799 Yeah? 1:25:50.000 --> 1:25:55.799 Right? Everything is momentary. When you're broke, it's momentary. Sometimes 1:25:55.800 --> 1:25:57.519 when you get in a big check, it might be momentary. 1:25:57.560 --> 1:25:59.519 Like everything is kind of momentary. It's just that feeling 1:25:59.520 --> 1:26:02.280 that will last for a little bit, as strong emotions 1:26:02.360 --> 1:26:04.400 only for a little bit, even when you're crazy in love. 1:26:04.400 --> 1:26:06.200 It just kind of lasts for a period of time. 1:26:06.720 --> 1:26:09.559 And I think that when we're down, we feel like 1:26:09.600 --> 1:26:11.760 it's the end. But you've gotta have faith in your 1:26:11.760 --> 1:26:12.360 future self. 1:26:12.600 --> 1:26:17.040 Yeah, I like that. I'm a personally remember that. No, 1:26:17.040 --> 1:26:20.519 now that I have Zariyah, my daughter, I'm like, yo, 1:26:20.600 --> 1:26:23.640 if you leave and you the number one gangst the 1:26:23.720 --> 1:26:26.960 soldier for her, ain't nobody gonna go harder for ze 1:26:27.120 --> 1:26:31.679 than you? Then then what's she gonna have? And I'm like, shit, 1:26:31.880 --> 1:26:35.320 I guess, I guess that's it. You know what I'm saying. 1:26:35.360 --> 1:26:37.840 But I do think too though. Sometimes when you are 1:26:37.960 --> 1:26:40.240 having a bad day and you have all these responsibilities, 1:26:40.400 --> 1:26:42.040 I'll be like, well, how can I go? I got 1:26:42.120 --> 1:26:44.559 like sixteen things planned next week that I have to 1:26:44.600 --> 1:26:46.760 get done. I can't even take the one day off. 1:26:46.840 --> 1:26:50.519 This is why they said, they all un there say 1:26:50.560 --> 1:26:52.240 this thing about how you have to have something to 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:57.320 look forward to week. Month, No, I think next days, 1:26:57.560 --> 1:26:59.519 week or month. I can't remember what it is, but 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:02.200 it's basic so that you don't get to where you 1:27:02.200 --> 1:27:04.639 feel like you have nothing. There has to be something 1:27:04.680 --> 1:27:07.400 on the calendar, whether it be a workout, whether it 1:27:07.439 --> 1:27:09.840 be a nail, something you scheduled for yourself. Even if 1:27:09.880 --> 1:27:11.639 it's not a trip, it's dinner at a cool place. 1:27:11.960 --> 1:27:14.240 You gotta have something because if you don't have that, 1:27:14.360 --> 1:27:17.519 then you feel hopeless, like we need to have those things. 1:27:17.560 --> 1:27:20.360 My mother actually gets like that. My mom's in her seventies. 1:27:20.400 --> 1:27:21.559 She gets so bored. 1:27:21.720 --> 1:27:23.599 I can't wait to bring the riots to your mom. 1:27:23.720 --> 1:27:28.479 Oh my god, babying to do bad. She does it 1:27:28.600 --> 1:27:31.120 with random people in like restaurants, especially if they're like 1:27:31.320 --> 1:27:33.920 black and cool. She just be looking at the baby. 1:27:34.800 --> 1:27:37.240 She won't talk either. She'll just start to do this 1:27:37.280 --> 1:27:40.160 while the mom's eating it's fine, and then keep talking 1:27:40.160 --> 1:27:40.320 to me. 1:27:40.320 --> 1:27:46.519 And I'm like, oh, weezy, it was such a good 1:27:46.560 --> 1:27:49.320 time having you that I hope that now that you're 1:27:49.320 --> 1:27:51.240 in LA, or when you pop in LA, you hit 1:27:51.280 --> 1:27:54.559 me up. Please do and hopefully you know if you 1:27:54.680 --> 1:27:56.360 pass a rich dude and you want to pull me 1:27:56.400 --> 1:28:00.840 to my first day school, I want to experience. I've 1:28:00.840 --> 1:28:01.479 never done it. 1:28:02.200 --> 1:28:03.400 Girl, go and seek an arrangement. 1:28:04.040 --> 1:28:06.000 I will. I'm serious. 1:28:06.000 --> 1:28:07.280 I want to chuggar Daudy website. 1:28:07.320 --> 1:28:08.920 I want to. I'm gonna check it out and I'm 1:28:08.920 --> 1:28:10.720 gonna be texting you girl. You would not. 1:28:10.680 --> 1:28:13.320 Believe it at Financial Domination. 1:28:14.040 --> 1:28:15.639 Financial Domination, you got. 1:28:15.439 --> 1:28:18.000 To make people feel like shit online and they just 1:28:18.000 --> 1:28:19.120 send you money for doing it. 1:28:19.280 --> 1:28:22.559 Really, I'm gonna I'm gonna look up all these pay pigs. 1:28:22.880 --> 1:28:27.760 You're gonna pay picks. But thank you for taking time 1:28:27.800 --> 1:28:30.040 out of be a crazy schedule to come visit and 1:28:30.080 --> 1:28:33.479 cook for me before we close out? Can you tell 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:37.000 everybody all the different assets that you have and how 1:28:37.040 --> 1:28:37.880 to keep up with you. 1:28:38.120 --> 1:28:40.640 Yeah, I'm on tour right now, Horrible Decisions. This is 1:28:40.640 --> 1:28:43.760 our final tours, the climax. We're not breaking up. We 1:28:43.920 --> 1:28:46.360 just really are like touring is a lot of work. 1:28:46.439 --> 1:28:48.479 Can't do it. So check us out on herr hive 1:28:48.520 --> 1:28:51.120 dot com and Horrible Decisions visit. If you're an up 1:28:51.160 --> 1:28:54.000 and coming podcaster, have a studio in New York and LA. 1:28:54.080 --> 1:28:56.559 It's super affordable. You can literally record for sixty bucks 1:28:56.560 --> 1:28:58.760 if you wanted to four a thousand if you're rich. 1:29:00.040 --> 1:29:02.400 And my TV show Sex, I was confused. Stream that 1:29:02.479 --> 1:29:06.639 motherfucker because that's the place that got the most mouthed 1:29:06.640 --> 1:29:07.519 to be so. 1:29:07.600 --> 1:29:12.000 Really just literally sit in dreaming. Not really, No, I 1:29:12.120 --> 1:29:12.960 want to watch it. 1:29:12.960 --> 1:29:13.679 It's really fun. 1:29:13.760 --> 1:29:15.200 Yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch it. 1:29:15.479 --> 1:29:18.120 It's a cute show. I go to a brothel this season. 1:29:18.160 --> 1:29:20.679 It's not out yet, but I've become a processing really. 1:29:20.760 --> 1:29:22.000 Oh yeah, I sat down with a client. 1:29:22.160 --> 1:29:24.080 Oh, I'm definitely watching it was crazy. 1:29:24.280 --> 1:29:26.720 My favorite episode of all time on there was when 1:29:26.720 --> 1:29:29.719 my mom did phone sex. That was crazy. 1:29:30.280 --> 1:29:32.240 I feel like I would be greatest phone sex by. 1:29:32.160 --> 1:29:34.080 The way, maybe you would, it's I would. 1:29:34.240 --> 1:29:35.360 I would be phenomenal. 1:29:35.560 --> 1:29:37.559 Just so I covered the business that does it. She 1:29:37.600 --> 1:29:39.240 teaches women how to keep them on the phone. 1:29:39.400 --> 1:29:42.400 And I was in a celibate relationship, so I will say. 1:29:43.960 --> 1:29:45.800 I just got out of a simular relationship. 1:29:45.960 --> 1:29:48.880 Really, I hated it, and I absolutely hated it. I 1:29:49.080 --> 1:29:51.360 hundred and then I got with my husband, who was 1:29:51.400 --> 1:29:53.479 like the opposite, just a superho and I was like, 1:29:53.760 --> 1:29:56.080 this is the best. But it came out of a 1:29:56.120 --> 1:29:58.799 celibate relationship and ran right to the opposite. 1:29:59.120 --> 1:30:01.439 Oh no, yeah, you need a good three times a week. 1:30:01.760 --> 1:30:06.320 Yeah, But thank y'all for tuning in to another episode 1:30:06.320 --> 1:30:09.920 of Eating While broke, I'm your girl, Colleen, and this 1:30:10.120 --> 1:30:12.000 is weezy Bye, y'all. 1:30:12.000 --> 1:30:12.280 Buys