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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have a

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Speaker 1: very special TV host, entrepreneur podcaster that Beach exactly very

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Speaker 1: special guests I do. We just have to end up

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Speaker 1: bleeping them out for sol. Do you beleeve about your

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Speaker 1: social song?

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Speaker 2: No? Sorry, well I heard it.

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Speaker 1: It messes with the algorithms.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's probably true.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's why we haven't.

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Speaker 1: Weezy is from Horrible Decisions. She also has a TV

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Speaker 1: show called Sex Cells, and she is an entrepreneur. She

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Speaker 1: owns podcast recording studios in New York. And am I

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Speaker 1: missing a market?

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Speaker 2: Not yet? If you recorded me in two months, you would.

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Speaker 1: Me okay hopefully Alana and I real know, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: but I'm really excited to have Weezy. I met you

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Speaker 1: probably over a year ago, and literally like, I just

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Speaker 1: I love everything you're about and I plan to take notes.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, but what do you have us eating as

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Speaker 1: your broke dish today?

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Speaker 2: Well, my broke dish today is gourmet maca cheese because

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Speaker 2: I feel like, well, gourmet meat and macajeese. I don't

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Speaker 2: like to say hot dogs. It sounds cheap. And the

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Speaker 2: meal is cheap. But like when broke, I was like,

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Speaker 2: I need to feel full fast, and I always thought

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Speaker 2: that was like a protein and carbs, and so hot

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Speaker 2: dogs and macaroni and cheese like the easiest thing, even

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Speaker 2: though by itself, I feel like it tastes like shit.

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Speaker 2: So I just tried to dress it up what I had.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. I saw these extra ingredients, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't know which direction your meal was going. So

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Speaker 1: for our listeners, can you say what is in the

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Speaker 1: gourmet met cheese?

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be real with you. Allive oil is

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Speaker 2: very expensive when your road, like this is what eight

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Speaker 2: dollars for this? Maybe ten?

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Speaker 1: Probably?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would use criscal but virgin olive oil.

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Speaker 2: Lorry I don't know how to say his name, but

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Speaker 2: Tony Shierrakus, I just call it Tony seasoning, Tony creole.

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Speaker 2: So we have the mixing bowls. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought you were gonna drain the mac and

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Speaker 1: cheese water.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't even have a bad I didn't

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Speaker 2: have a what's it called. I would take the top,

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Speaker 2: pour it out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we usually do that on the show. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this is just a fruit strainer. But go on, what's

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Speaker 1: the ingredients.

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Speaker 2: I like Nathan's. I'm not sure why. Hebrew National wasn't

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Speaker 2: my thing, but Nathan's was like the skinny ones. Like Nathan's,

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Speaker 2: We've got the cutting board and the knife so that

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Speaker 2: you can slice up the hot dogs, onions, butter and milk.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Now it's funny because I've done mac and cheese before.

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Speaker 1: In my greatest accomplishment was adding tuna to the mac

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Speaker 1: and cheese. Okay, but I am excited.

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Speaker 2: Because there's so much don't go together. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's lostter mac and cheese and that's it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I was broke. I didn't. I don't even know there,

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Speaker 1: you know. But but no, I'm excited because this is

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Speaker 1: my first time ever in the history of living on

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Speaker 1: this earth having gourmet mac and cheese. And it's really cool.

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Speaker 2: You know what I actually put in myra?

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Speaker 1: Look you getting all hyped into it? What what?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Now that I'm getting money when I make gromet

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Speaker 2: mac and cheese for overall, I put like five different

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Speaker 2: type of cheeses in it, and I put a little

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Speaker 2: bit of beer whenever I Yes, I can't remember where

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Speaker 2: I learned about the beer from but it's something about

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Speaker 2: the yeast and the beer. Oh my god, you can

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Speaker 2: taste it. It's so good. Beer costs extra money, so

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Speaker 2: I felt like I shouldn't added that.

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Speaker 1: No, no, but that's your But you now that you

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Speaker 1: make money, you actually do to still a twist the

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Speaker 1: gourmet maca cheer.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're hilarious. My mom hates it. She's like,

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Speaker 2: this is so ridiculous because every Thanksgiving we have hers,

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Speaker 2: then mine is the bougie back.

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Speaker 1: And you're mixed, right, So is your mom black?

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Speaker 2: My mom is black and my dad's is really okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe it should be Hebrew national.

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Speaker 1: You're hilarious. My dad is Jewish and my mom is Jamaican.

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Speaker 2: You always see the other PEO was like, you're like

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Speaker 1: Well, it used to be Lenny was the big thing

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Speaker 2: People don't know who nothing you not, these young kids.

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Speaker 1: But all right, weezy. So I am dying to try

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Speaker 1: this gourmet mac, so come away.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: Why you say that, because think about.

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Speaker 2: The stuff we eat today. I mean, you eat shitty

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Speaker 1: With Oh let me tell you. I'm getting to the

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Speaker 1: point where I'm gonna start rating it. And I've been

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Speaker 1: because I've been pretty nice. Someone made tuna castrole. It's

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Speaker 1: it's tuna castrole and the pickled egg is the worst

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Speaker 1: said the worst pickled egg?

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Speaker 2: Have you had a pickled egg? I thought casseroles are

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Speaker 2: for Caucasians. And this is the Black Black Network. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was two black sisters that owned a all black

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Speaker 1: a tuna castrole and it was absolutely that's terrible.

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Speaker 2: Putting the olive oil in the pan for the onions

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Speaker 2: because I like it to caramelize, okay, okay, but also

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna boil the hot dogs, start boiling the macacheese.

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Speaker 2: And while that's boiling, that's where I'd just be trying

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Speaker 2: to get the flavor with the onions and Shita tastes

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Speaker 2: like extra. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just learned the other day that some people seasoned

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Speaker 2: No? Am I Karen? Now it was?

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Speaker 1: It was a black girl.

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Speaker 2: Damn, I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I expect

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Speaker 2: her to be black.

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Speaker 1: You said you're a carot.

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Speaker 2: You want to know something that's just too black? My mom,

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Speaker 2: every time she watches my dog, won't feed the dog

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Speaker 2: dog food. It's only like chicken, right, And I was like, Mom,

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Speaker 2: a little garlic powder and just a little season on it.

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Speaker 2: She seas in the dog's foods, there's too bland, no way,

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Speaker 2: And every time I got the dog be peen out

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Speaker 2: of its ask. Actually, there's a very special day and

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Speaker 2: week for me. By the way, my parents, I moved

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Speaker 2: them to LA, so they're flying to night.

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Speaker 1: You moved them.

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Speaker 2: They live in Orlando, so literally I'm New York Orlando, LA.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I can't do this triangle. It's

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Speaker 2: just wanted them closer to me, so that that, to

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Speaker 2: me was like a big life goal. That's summer Orlando.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that's a yeah, because it would have

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Speaker 2: You moved them to a more expensive market. I want

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Speaker 2: them to be closer to me. This is where all

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Speaker 2: my birthday this year, I went to suspend it with

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Speaker 2: my mom does. People probably see my mom all over

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Speaker 2: my content. But my dad was like, damn, I wish

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Speaker 2: I could watch TV with you all the time. I

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Speaker 2: wish we could have these moments together, Like I wish

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Speaker 2: I could be in LA with you and your mom.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, well, shit, you guys could be there,

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, I mean to me, it's crazy to

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Speaker 2: a T Mobile store making the meal. I made it

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Speaker 2: when I was broken. I'm literally able to afford to

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Speaker 2: spend so much money I'm gonna have to eat this

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Speaker 2: shit again.

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Speaker 1: No, no, but you're making like really big moves. I was.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited about having this conversation with you because

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Speaker 1: knowing that you came from Brokeness and seeing like you're

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Speaker 1: I'm still in the Jamaican like two thousand here, five

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I'm not at the point where

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Speaker 1: because we're all about to get took to school, you,

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Speaker 1: I hope. So yeah, So I hope I do the

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Speaker 1: due deal with just tell us what was going on

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Speaker 1: when you were making Gourmet mac and Cheese, the original,

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Speaker 1: So I'll tell you this, coming from Brokeness was something

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Speaker 2: That wild first. I don't know if you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: This is the mac and cheese potting.

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Speaker 1: No, it was the other because that pot small. I

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Speaker 1: love you. I'm making my own Okay, I'm staying out

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Speaker 2: Said you're gonna take.

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Speaker 1: Just so you know, every time I get involved in

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Speaker 1: the kitchen, I burned someone's dish. So I need to

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Speaker 1: stay in my life.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, made me feel better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I've been burning stuff on people's own meals,

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Speaker 1: all right, So so tell me what was going on? Sorry.

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Speaker 2: So I actually grew up with money and there was

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Speaker 2: a stock market crash that happened that lost my parents

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Speaker 2: I ended up dating a guy. It was just like

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Speaker 2: that stopped. My parents couldn't really afford to college. I

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Speaker 2: So started work at the mall White House black market

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Speaker 2: clothing stores like a hand tailor.

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Speaker 1: Bike Yeah, yeah, a little bit high play, yeah, high class,

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Speaker 1: that's my first I did. Did you steal anything from them,

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Speaker 1: like a few things.

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Speaker 2: Ok. Good, good, But then I realized once I had

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Speaker 2: to stop, I wasn't like stealing for real, for real, Okay,

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Speaker 2: it was just a little shit. And then one day

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Speaker 2: The craziest thing was I went to jail. I ended

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Speaker 1: Be with such a good personality. Could don't wear your personality?

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Speaker 2: Okay, my mom always wanted me to be with a

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Speaker 2: And like, it's so crazy because now I'm the rich guy. Yea,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get married, You're gonna have a big house,

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Speaker 2: She was bugging out. And then we walk outside of

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Speaker 2: But it's really great because for me, like I don't

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Speaker 2: I really really have wanted this for myself my life,

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, and they come tonight. This is a big

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Speaker 2: She was like, I think I'm getting old. She had

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I can do this shit. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then now are they still together? So he's

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Speaker 1: when does your dad come?

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Speaker 2: It is? So my dad comes in tonight. He's just

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Speaker 2: I'll take care of my dad and then you know, okay,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about go back to your broke story, okay,

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Speaker 2: So the broke missus The brokest I think I'd been

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Speaker 2: let me keep barely the clothes that I had that

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Speaker 2: Physical and emotional? He was crazy. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: So when I left him, he didn't give me anything.

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Speaker 2: It was really tough. I mean, mind you, I went

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Speaker 2: literally figuring out what I was gonna do with the

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Speaker 2: I moved, he.

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Speaker 1: Didn't want to tell them because they were already struggling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I can't imagine how my mom would feel.

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Speaker 2: She's like, oh my god, was like excited about you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: So ended up finding a place, I think it was

436
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,360
Speaker 2: seven hundred a month, split the rent with a homegirls,

437
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 2: a two bedroom in Orlando. He was right by Walmart,

438
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 2: thank god, because that's where I was buying all the

439
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,119
Speaker 2: fucking hot dogs, the mac and cheese. Wrong, but my

440
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,879
Speaker 2: number one broke thing I would do. So I used

441
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 2: to hang with all the trap news because hello, that

442
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 2: was my jam okay, and I'm from Florida, right, so

443
00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 2: like southern culture, big car shows, HBC's like, it was

444
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,199
Speaker 2: just fun and basically what I would do if they

445
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 2: were going to like buy a bottle or a table

446
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,200
Speaker 2: in the club, I would see if I had like

447
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 2: maybe thirty dollars left on my account so that it

448
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 2: would overdraft, and have them give me the cash. And

449
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 2: that was like my payday loan to myself.

450
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 1: Oh wow, hold that You are like really in deep

451
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 1: when you think of that strategy.

452
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. My roommate and I at the time,

453
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 2: I remember we both got paid on different weeks. So

454
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: there was a Thursday and we both got paid that

455
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: or I got paid that Friday. I was like, damn,

456
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 2: we don't have detergent left, but we want to go

457
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 2: to the club. We had like twenty bucks. She was like, okay,

458
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 2: we get vodka or detergent. And we got vodka. Okay,

459
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 2: we you some body washing like clean shit. In the

460
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 2: same we were like, we got to go out and

461
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 2: meet niggas to make more money. And it's crazy that

462
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: like that was what I thought being able to have success.

463
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: Look like I got to meet a rich guy. I

464
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 2: got to be a basketball player or they or that guy. Yeah,

465
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 2: which a lot of women still think they need to

466
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 2: do today.

467
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 1: I want to subscribe. I'm gonna say it openly. I

468
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 1: want to subscribe to the rich nigga club because I

469
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: do the opposite. I'm like, are you broken, homeless? Let

470
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: me help you. I can graduate you to the next week.

471
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 1: Oh no, trust me. You don't want to get in

472
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 1: that game. You know what the problem is because they'll

473
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: turn around to look at you and be like, I

474
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 1: know I'm homeless, but uh oh no, my life, I

475
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: think I'm better than you.

476
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 2: The problem is, like I think now, a lot of

477
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: the dudes are in my industry right, so like the

478
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 2: people that I'm working amongst I can't be out here

479
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: like trying to fuck with these niggas for bread like

480
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 2: I used to. Don't get me wrong, I would still

481
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: want Toby, but like for real, like you know, it's

482
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: like they'll know me from somewhere. I've seen me on something,

483
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 2: so I don't want to be a bird then I

484
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 2: just end up, you know, a bird with these niggas.

485
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: But whatever, I'll tell you right now, I am learning

486
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: and I am done. So you know, if you ever

487
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: find a rich one, you can always slide on. Heyko,

488
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, because I've actually I've never actually dated

489
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: a rich dude.

490
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: My damnsel in distress thing all the time was just

491
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: like I just really want to be able to like

492
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: ount my you know, parents, And it was true. I was.

493
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: So I'm just like working really hard and I can't't

494
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: work college. But just like, I'm really smart. I read

495
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 2: a lot. I was always like doing a fucking sob story,

496
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 2: which I'll tell you what, my sugar daddy. A lot

497
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 2: of the things that I think helped me now are

498
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: the stock tips and investment tips I got for my

499
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: sugar daddy.

500
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: But didn't didn't you say were your parents in stock

501
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,239
Speaker 1: market too, though it crash okay, so you didn't want

502
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: to take tips from them, were you? Like No?

503
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: But you know, with him, particularly my sugar daddy, I

504
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: remember he would get up at four o'clock in the morning,

505
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: five o'clock in the morning and watch the market, to

506
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: watch the markets in China wherever, just international stocks four

507
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: x right, things like that, and it never made me

508
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: want his money. I always wanted to be him. I

509
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 2: always wanted to be that person that just had this, this, this,

510
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: this and that. To me that was so attractive about him.

511
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: People used to always ask me how I could fuck

512
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: him and shit like that, and I was like, Bro,

513
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: you don't know how rich the person is. You don't

514
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 2: know how how much that drives me. The ambitition and

515
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 2: that made him sexier and sexier. So one day I

516
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: eventually just asked him like, hey, I really want to

517
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: learn the stock market, but like, you know, what, can

518
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: I put like five hundred dollars in And he's like,

519
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 2: that's not a start. I'll give you ten thousand dollars

520
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: if you can make it grow. I forgot the time frame.

521
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 2: He said, I'll reward you with another ten and he did.

522
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: Wow.

523
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 2: And I kept growing it and growing it. I think

524
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: at the time I even put the money in T Mobile.

525
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: Think it opened became a publicly traded company when I

526
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 2: worked there, became publicly traded and then it was six

527
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: dollars and then they went up to like thirty, and

528
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: I thought, I get a lot of money.

529
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: So when you were doing the podcast, and this is before,

530
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Speaker 1: I want to say, before everybody was on podcasting correct,

531
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: seven years ago? Yeah, I mean it was like before

532
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: the new Waive or were you guys early in Like

533
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: we were.

534
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Speaker 2: Very early, and like people were verly really do video,

535
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: I think for popular podcasts, just for scale.

536
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand how you're mixing water and oil and

537
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: you're not getting burns.

538
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm standing away. I'm trying to like I didn't have

539
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: a grill, okay, but I'm trying to get that real plate.

540
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, you know what I mean. Okay, gourmet continue.

541
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to detail you.

542
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: This is pucking me up. This is hard. I can't

543
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 2: even listen to music when I cook one.

544
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: You would be surprised how many people will at the

545
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: after each interview, They'll be like yo, cooking and talking

546
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: at the same time really really difficult because.

547
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: You're like knowing that you have to engage, like that's

548
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 2: what's making it.

549
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: And you have to like tell your story the entire time.

550
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm about to start telling you some lies.

551
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: No no, So so your sugar baby is sugar babe,

552
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: sugar daddy, so that would make you the sugar baby, right,

553
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: sugar baby. Okay, okay, I'm going to be a sugar baby.

554
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a shirt Baisy Bros.

555
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: Every time I was out with I would take him

556
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: to like fucking any now. And this when I just

557
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: moved to New York. Catch just just came out at

558
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: the time, and SGK was super popular. I remember all

559
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: them niggas if you be looking at me with him,

560
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, come on, babe. Also just turned

561
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: on knowing that he had to fuck me for money,

562
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: uh huh, which is terrible, but I was okay, it

563
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: was sexy to me, like especially when I remember he

564
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 2: would be like, you want to get some clothes and

565
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: I would always want to get a little Nike askic

566
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: to shit. You know many all the niggas of you

567
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: in yeah, he's my daddy. But so anyway, start horrible decisions.

568
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: But I like how you were actually inspired by his

569
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: moves versus well, I don't want to say I like,

570
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: but it's interesting that you were inspired by him being

571
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: successful to be even more successful, and you you took

572
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: the initiative to even say, hey, I want to learn

573
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: what you're doing and do it on my own, which was.

574
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: It's like I always wanted this sex in the city

575
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: life mm hmm, but I never felt like any of

576
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: them needed men to live that life. Yeah, and so

577
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to have the girlfriends that I was wearing

578
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: an amazing designer with and fucking enjoying fashion show and

579
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: doing this shit. But I knew if I was tied

580
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: to a man, I wouldn't have that freedom. And I

581
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: had also experienced my first relationship a man with money

582
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: and abuse, so I was like, I have to have

583
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 2: it on my own. I can't be down again. And

584
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: you know, I hate to say it like this, but

585
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: my mom was a housewife her whole life. And what

586
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: happened to my parents with losing their I mean their

587
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: house got four clothes on right, the home that I

588
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 2: semi grew up in. It's like it was tough to

589
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: watch them go through that, and I think about two

590
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: incomes or just diversifying, shit, what that would have meant.

591
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: So that really fueled me a lot. And it's tough

592
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: for my mom to hear that.

593
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but why have you had those sidebar conversations?

594
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely, But it's not easy, like my mom.

595
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 2: My mom is so amazing, but there's moments where she's like,

596
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: oh my god, I never taught you to go out

597
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: there and do it alone. But look at you in

598
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 2: a way, you're you know, well I made money off

599
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: of personality.

600
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: Well you make money because you're a gangster entrepreneur. That's

601
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: really it. I mean the personality. I mean, in my opinion,

602
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: the personality is just like the cherry on the cake.

603
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm a feller at heart. And

604
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: my father that's what he did growing up. He owned

605
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 2: like camera stores and like you know the little row

606
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: like stores back in the day they'd have where they

607
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: were selling electronic these shops. That was my dad's like

608
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: line of work. Okay, And when I was growing up,

609
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: I mean this shit, that's what I started selling clothes,

610
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: t mobile, my blizni. Then then like literally everything about

611
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: it felt like selling to me. You know, like it's

612
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: interesting the way Mandy and I have kind of done

613
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: our business. I always felt like she has really helped

614
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: us so much when it comes in terms of our finances.

615
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: Right.

616
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: She had a financial background, and even though I came

617
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 2: from the tech world, was selling like I mean, I'm

618
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: the first person when we're on a call that's like

619
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: I want to do it for this much or we

620
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: need this or that, And like, I love that We've

621
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: been able to play up both of our corporate roles

622
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: in that. Yeah, and I've got a lot of seller

623
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: blood in me. My partner Alex now with WTF Media Studios,

624
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: anytime we have a big deal or he sees someone's budget,

625
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, you have to sell them on the phone.

626
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: You have to tell them why. And I really enjoy

627
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: it. It makes me feel like I still got it a

628
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: little bit.

629
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: I always say this that I think I used to

630
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: always say. When I have a child, I want to

631
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: teach her how to read, I want to teach her

632
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: financial literacy, I want to teach her about God. But

633
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: the number one skill that she has to have before

634
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: she graduates high school is the ability to sell, because

635
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: I think it is the most underrated skill. And if

636
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: you're going to go work for yourself, the number one

637
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: thing you're gonna have to do is sell a product,

638
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: sell yourself. And so I don't buy anything, yep. And

639
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: I remember when I had my first company. I remember

640
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: going to a home deep or office depot and buying

641
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: those little sale books and you know, how will out

642
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: my hair pulled back and all this and whatever. But

643
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: I knew right away that sales is the one skill.

644
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: And I would listen to all these audio tapes too

645
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: about like how people you know you're almost nervous getting

646
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: into it.

647
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting about selling too? I know Mandy and

648
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: I had a conversation about this, Like so I never

649
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: finished college because I couldn't afford to finish it because

650
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: I got out of that relationship, right, m I don't

651
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: want it to splatter in all this equipment. I don't

652
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: know only do it like this. But Mandy at the

653
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: time coming off of two degrees working for this huge firm,

654
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: and she was working more hours and not making as

655
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: much as me in accounting at that time. I understand

656
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: it was junior Levelah, but I think about that a lot,

657
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: and I think about the money you can make from

658
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: selling all the time, and I think about that instance

659
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: of like, shit, maybe she's smarter than me, but why

660
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: isn't she making it up? And it's because that particular

661
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: skill really can't be taught, real can't.

662
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta practice it and practice it and practice

663
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: it and practice it.

664
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I believe Mandy is greater than was. I

665
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: gonna say, you know, the job that she had, and

666
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: that's why she's making way more and doing way more

667
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: things now. But yeah, I mean it's definitely a thing.

668
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

669
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, with selling doing shit like that, had horrible

670
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: decisions on the side, and it was really difficult to

671
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: juggle both. And so about two years into doing horrible decisions,

672
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: I quit. But it was mainly because I was like,

673
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: you know what, if I ever wanted to come back

674
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: to this shit, I will, Like I've been making jokes recently,

675
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, me and fifteen years I'm

676
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: probably gonna be a real estate agent.

677
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: So why did you quit?

678
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: Two years in the trajectory of horrible was faster than

679
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: the trajectory of corporate America. For example, how long do

680
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: we work a corporate job? Right? So you want to

681
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: get promoted, I worked for Teambile six years. I got

682
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: to be a manager after year three and a half

683
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: four if there's a spot for you, so to me,

684
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: I kind of just felt like this is moving faster

685
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: than my rate in the corporate world.

686
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you said you quit horror.

687
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, quit my corporate Oh okay.

688
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, because you were like two years in I

689
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: quit horrible. So no, you quit your corporate okay, okay.

690
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: Got quit my corporate job after two years, and I

691
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: legitimately felt like it was not gonna make me.

692
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: But I have to ask before how much were you

693
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: making it horrible to say, okay, not as you make it. Oh,

694
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: you weren't making as much as T Mobile.

695
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: So here's the thing, because a lot of people ask

696
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: me when is the right time to quit a job,

697
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: and I can only explain it like this, starting Team Mobile,

698
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: I made ninety thousand, ending I was around one seventy five, okay, which.

699
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: Is damn T Mobile, Go ahead, go on.

700
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: It was like I was selling to companies that needed

701
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: like Ethernet, I graduate disaster recovery like I graduated from phones.

702
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: But basically this is what happens, so horrible decisions at

703
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: that time that I quit. May have been making me

704
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand, maybe one twenty five from touring mainly,

705
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: not even Patreon add money.

706
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: And that's two years. Yeah, jeez, all right, go on,

707
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: And I.

708
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: Think the tour money because Mandy and I were buying

709
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: out theaters. We brought out carolines on Broadway.

710
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: And you guys were physically doing it yourself.

711
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: Splitting that money, paying ourselves back event bright type shit.

712
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: But what I realized was like, oh, took me six

713
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: years to make ninety to one to seventy. Yeah, took

714
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: me two years from zero to one hundred. So next

715
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: year I'm gonna make more. Yeah, let's just say I

716
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: make another fifty. It's worth it. Not to mention I

717
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: have more time on my hands. I could probably do

718
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: more appearances and more tour dates, so it's time to quit.

719
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: I also remember one moment it was brilliant idiots. If

720
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: anyone watches that episode, I was literally wearing a suit

721
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: like a blazer and a skirt, but Mandy and I

722
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: had to make an excuse to leave our jobs that

723
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: day to go shoot with Charlee Mane and Andrew. So

724
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: I think that it really will show you, like when

725
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: you have to start saying no to things. Oh oh yeah,

726
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: when you have to start saying no to things because

727
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: of your day job, Yes, that's when it's time, Like

728
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: when you're really getting booked like that, like TV appearances

729
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: even Like I remember we did Vice Live and I

730
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: couldn't be there early for the rehearsal because of my job,

731
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: and I was like, damn man, and anyone who's watching

732
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: this who might be semi getting entertainment, whether you've got

733
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: a TikTok or popular Instagram channel, you want to do

734
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: a Horrible Decisions podcast and maybe get or even eating

735
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: while robe. Who the fuck is gonna do this shit

736
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: at six thirty seven o'clock at night, right, who's gonna

737
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: do what? Like to have a guest? Yeah, entrepreneurs, Like

738
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: all this shit gets filmed during the day, so it's

739
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: really tough to have a nine to five and pursue

740
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: those entertainment dreams. And like that was why I was

741
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: like I got to figure the shit out. I think

742
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: my biggest success in this industry came during the pandemic

743
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: while Pivoting So made the TV show Sex Sells. It's

744
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: about the business of sex, having money, making money from

745
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: sex without having it, and I came up with that

746
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: because that's how I make money, right, Basically, talk about

747
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: sex covered all these adult industries and I'm not a

748
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: TV star, and it ended up popping on tuess and

749
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: that's why I'm on, how did you?

750
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: Did you package that yourself and then start selling it

751
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: or did you package it and then started calling Charlemagne

752
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: or different people you have relationship with, and like, so

753
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: I have something that I need.

754
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: That's what made me the most proud. I didn't need

755
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: a co sign for that. Okay, I believe horrible decisions

756
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: had the Charlemagne co sign, and that's what made a

757
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: lot of people watching in the beginning. I do believe

758
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 2: Charlemagne made our success faster. Don't believe we're successful because

759
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: it happened faster. But what happened with Sex Sells was

760
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: like I just had so much time during the pandemic

761
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: to think, and I knew my two loves were fucking

762
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: in money m hm, and so I was like, oh

763
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: my god, I should make the show. I want to

764
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: humanize sex workers, and literally people don't talk about their

765
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: sex lives on it, and a lot of people have said, like, oh,

766
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: it's like horrible decisions on TV.

767
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: But it's even it doesn't sound like it. It sounds

768
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: completely different because you're talking about this set workers right right.

769
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 2: I'm interview a lot of the guests we had so

770
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: that I can, you know, show them some love and

771
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: they've got real businesses promote them. But no, it's totally

772
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: different and I love doing it. It makes me. It

773
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: really brought me into the world of seeing how production works,

774
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: the larger skill budgets and money.

775
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: So, but you pitched it yourself, That's what I'm saying,

776
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: Like you went out there or did you have a

777
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: manager that helped you so.

778
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: It started slow. I didn't have a manager, never had

779
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: an agent ever.

780
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: Basically, oh still to this date.

781
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: No, not personally, Damn you're a gangster. I have a

782
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: person that gives I give them a cut of my

783
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: money if they do pr stuff for me, but if

784
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: they get me a deal. But yeah, So basically, there

785
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 2: was a guy that reached out to me months back

786
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: before the pandemic was like, oh, do you want to

787
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: do this type of show? I was like, no, pandemic

788
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: hits and I was like, you know what, I wonder

789
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: what the fuck he's doing. It's like he making TV

790
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: is TV being made, and we started talking about what

791
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: it would look like if we work together and came

792
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 2: up with sex cells together. He worked at FEWS at

793
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: the time. Help me package it, oh, help me make

794
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: a bible. And we did it that way. But what

795
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: I will tell anyone that has a good TV idea

796
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: is people that work in development needs shows all the time.

797
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: I currently run development for Kenya Barris at Audible. Right, okay,

798
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: don't send me shit right now, I'm done with that.

799
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: But like literally, I was wondering what shows we're gonna

800
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: make for him, Like developers want to fucking know, and

801
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: if you have good ideas, shooting pilots, making decks, having

802
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: a bible, having the demographics of why it would be good,

803
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: not just coming in their blank like hey, I'm not

804
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: doing anything like I've been doing XYZ. Like if you

805
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: hit up the Food Network, you'd have how much to

806
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: show them? For real? You know what I mean.

807
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take notes. Remember how I said I'll take it.

808
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: Notes goge you did, But like here it is, here's

809
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: my spread, and this is what I do with this

810
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: type of budget. Imagine if you gave me fifty thousand

811
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: an episode, I could be doing it on location. I

812
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 2: could be coming to their homes. I could be XYZ. Like.

813
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: There's so many different ways for the things that we're

814
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: making right now to make them next level. Yeah, and

815
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: so I think that we just kind of have to

816
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: use our network. Like my biggest thing with playing chess

817
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: is making sure that I'm rubbing elbows with those that

818
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: can one day need to use me for something I

819
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: need to use you.

820
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: That's awesome, Yeah.

821
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: Because the thing is, I remember Charlotte, he said this

822
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: about someone. They were like, he was like, that person

823
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: is such an opportunist, And I was like, I wonder

824
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: if that's who I am. But really, I don't ask

825
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: I let every single person know what the fuck I do.

826
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: I just had a dinner where I sat down next

827
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: to one of the most famous comedians in the world.

828
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: I don't even know if this person can travel on

829
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: a commercial plane, that's how famous they are, right.

830
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

831
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: When they asked me what I do, didn't even say

832
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: a podcasting. I was like, I own a production studio

833
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 2: in New York and Las Black owned. We shoot podcasts mainly,

834
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: but we also have a mobile team boom. Now it's

835
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: in your brain, now, you know what you can use

836
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: me for, Like, that's the job I felt like I

837
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: needed to sell to that person at the time. When

838
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: I talk to TV show, TV networks or people that

839
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: work in Netflix or different things like that I host,

840
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: I do this, I do that right, Like I want

841
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: to make sure that I'm useful to people that I've

842
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: rebbed elbows with.

843
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your sales skills like shines through. I

844
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: always say, like sales is more about paying attention to

845
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: what the customer wants, listening to them, and then catering

846
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: to their needs. That's just trying to sell someone something

847
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: that they don't want to buy. So even the way

848
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: you're talking is like your sales skills are just really amazing. Yeah,

849
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: because that's how it is. You're supposed to sell. You're

850
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: supposed to you know, if someone walks up to me

851
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna think about, you know, what it

852
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: is they're gonna need or want from me.

853
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: Correct. You know, that's a really good point because I

854
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: didn't even think about me selling myself in that way,

855
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: but like, damn it is.

856
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: It is. But now opportunists is different because opportunists are

857
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: I always say, I want to be a business person

858
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: not a hustler, because I feel like a hustler is like,

859
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take advantage, someone's gonna at the short end

860
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: of a stick. But a business person is like, we're

861
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: all gonna win. You're gonna walk away with your piece

862
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: of the pie. She's gonna walk away with her piece

863
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: of pie, and I'm gonna walk away with my piece,

864
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: and no one feels to agreed.

865
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: You can never make someone feel like they're doing you

866
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: a favor.

867
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, like at all.

868
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: I mean, Charlotte Mane was lucky and lucky enough to

869
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: make horrible decisions with his rollout on Black Effect. I

870
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: know there's eighty five South all the smoke, and I

871
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: literally was thinking to myself the other day, Charla Mane

872
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: and is Charlotmane, But horrible decisions was still good enough to

873
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: where Black Effects was like, oh, we do need those numbers,

874
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: but we sell to add people like I don't want

875
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: to fucking suck anybody's dick to feel like and I'm

876
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: not talking about that instance, but just anyone like, thank

877
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: you so much for giving this to you. Yeah, yeah,

878
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: when you know your value, yeah yeah. We have to

879
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: make sure that we're definitely pouring into ourselves in that way.

880
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: But I mean, shit, you know I love fuse to death,

881
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: but I also know my show brings number then and

882
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: I know that's why they treat me well. They love

883
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: me too, like we're definitely doing what we need to

884
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: do for each other. Like I'm so happy to be

885
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: on a network that you know I can be their

886
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: most watch show. Like maybe if I was on an

887
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: HBO or some Netflix, maybe I would just kind of

888
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: go under the radar.

889
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Maybe I honestly don't think so.

890
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, I don't think so.

891
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: I'm not even trying to be well, what was your

892
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: hardest hurdle? I think it just to come to day

893
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: because I feel like you have a lot of great pivots.

894
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: But like, where was there a point where you were

895
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: like I don't know, hmm that you seriously like had

896
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: that conversation if I don't know, And it could have been.

897
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: A studio, Okay, my studio, which is the best thing

898
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: I've ever done. Actually, my studio gave me the seal

899
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: of approval to be bigger than just a podcaster. Like

900
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 2: that was really when I became a businesswoman. No matter

901
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: how hard, Mandy and I have worked. I never felt

902
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: like that, and it's no shade to her. I don't

903
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: know if it's because with women. I don't know if

904
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 2: it's because we talk about sex, but like I had

905
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: to do something else for myself to feel like I

906
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 2: could be respected. And it really shows something about brick

907
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: and mortar spaces to make people feel very like, oh,

908
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: they're really doing something, which is weird. But it's also

909
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: because I started getting other people money, Like.

910
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: What was the hesitancy, Like where was that hesitancy at?

911
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: Like where was that pain that investment? Right, my partner

912
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 2: Alex shout out to him, we spent an insane amount

913
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: of money on fucking equipment, which is why we have

914
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: one of the best studios right, Like literally, I was like,

915
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: how can we be charging people this little but like

916
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: our equipment is so fucking expensive, like it doesn't add

917
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: up or whatever. Yeah, and he was like, Yo, that's

918
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: why everybody's gonna come to us, to know that the

919
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: podcasters like us can be there and then the Charlotte

920
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 2: Maanees of the world or whoever they may be. David

921
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: Letterman wasn't.

922
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: Our shit, Oh shit, right, Okay.

923
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: He's like to know these people and Okay, you can

924
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: sit amongst them like we're gonna be for all of them.

925
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: And that's really been our brand. I believe that's why

926
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 2: we're growing. I mean, we get resumes like fucking crazy

927
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: every day.

928
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: So how long did it take when you so you

929
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: made that initial investment. The by the way, you're cooking

930
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: like we are in a rich restaurant.

931
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: At the point. Look at all the food she.

932
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: Made and it's like, I feel like I'm about to

933
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: eat an appetizer.

934
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: Go mate, you try to make it look clean and minimally.

935
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: When the cameras are off, I'm gonna just go in

936
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: with a fork and just eat everything direct.

937
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: I know it.

938
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm starving and you gave me like an appetizer.

939
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: Well, it's fucking hot dogs, girl.

940
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: I want to see you sit down next to this

941
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: mic and spend quality time with me.

942
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, let's try this. It looks good but.

943
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: Not bad.

944
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 2: You look is the onions.

945
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't mix these in together.

946
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: Funny enough, my COO talks about Haitian spaghetti and there's

947
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: hot dogs in it. I never mixed the hot dogs

948
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: a pasta, but this is kind of good.

949
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: This ship is amazing. Did you mix it all on

950
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: one fork?

951
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: I put it together on I don't want to touch

952
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: on the plate for.

953
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: A y'all, listeners. The hot dog and the onions smack.

954
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: I definitely will mess with Nathan's just because I feel

955
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: like maybe it tastes different or I just haven't had

956
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: a hot dog.

957
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: In a while.

958
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: But the freaking grilled onions in mac and cheese cheeses genius.

959
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: Bro I don't know why I've never thought of seasoning

960
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: up my mac and cheese, but the grilled onions, it's crunchy,

961
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: it's amazing.

962
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: I am so happy.

963
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: I am very impressible.

964
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: The only thing is.

965
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: I would maybe add and I don't even know, but

966
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: do you agree? Would you add more salt to the

967
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: mac and cheese?

968
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: Oh? I put salt on my stuff, but I don't

969
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: want to do that to people.

970
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's.

971
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: Why I left the lorries for you. You know, sodium

972
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: is a bitch nowadays. Plus there's a lot of salt

973
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: in Tony Sherari. What her fucking name is?

974
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: Okay, So for a girl that came from money, went broke,

975
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: had sugar daddies and it's self made to the point

976
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: of flying your family in from Orlando to LA still

977
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: in the early early I don't even want to say

978
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: how early thirty she is because all of us are listening.

979
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: Can you believe that much you've accomplished? It's amazing.

980
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: You know. Sometimes I get scared, like I'll lose it,

981
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: But then I realize the hunger that I have to

982
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: help everybody around me is too deep. It's too intense

983
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: that I don't think it could happen.

984
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: Now do you deal with well? You said you have

985
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: multiple companies. You're definitely spread. It sounds to me like

986
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: you're spread pretty thin. I'm so happy you shared that

987
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: because I always think that maybe I'm doing something wrong

988
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: if I have so many hustles going at the same time.

989
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: Fuck. No, you know there is something to be said

990
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: about a master of none. But I will say this

991
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: much what's worked for me. I don't steal anybody's idea.

992
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: I really ride my own wave. I made a studio

993
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: not because there's other podcast studios, because there were no

994
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: black owned ones that we're going to have podcasters run it.

995
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: I'd never been to a podcast studio run by a podcaster.

996
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: I made horrible decisions because I really wanted to do

997
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: a fun sex show with someone that I knew was authentic,

998
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: and there were no black shows about sex that were

999
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: hosted by normal girls. Yeah right, it was always like

1000
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: porn stars or whatever. Everything that I've done so far

1001
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: hadn't seen before except for stock, I would say. But like,

1002
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: I've really rode my own wave, and that's why I

1003
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 2: think it's worked. So when you do too many different

1004
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: trades and you're taking an idea, like your concept is different.

1005
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 2: We've all seen a cooking show which your concept different, right, Yeah, yeah,

1006
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: so it's like you have to have something different added

1007
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: to it, and I think that if you don't, you

1008
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 2: then become a master of none because you're just trying

1009
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: to do things that other people do.

1010
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough. I have a fear of I don't

1011
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: even know where this fear came from, But when it

1012
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: comes to partnering with other people, I feel like my

1013
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: greatest asset is my relationships. And it's probably because I

1014
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: have so much integrity. I'm like, dude, I won't hurt

1015
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: a full I really won't even hurt a fly because

1016
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: I want to treat people the way I would want

1017
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: to be treated. So my loyalty is there. But when

1018
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: I see like you and Mandy working together and you

1019
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: and Alex working together, I'm like, either the integrity on

1020
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: you has got to be super lit or how are

1021
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: you managing that partnership? Because I always I always get nervous,

1022
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: like what if the other partner doesn't hold up or

1023
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: there's a disagreement? So how do you how do you

1024
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: navigate that?

1025
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: My first partnership I've ever had was with Mandy, right,

1026
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: and Mandy and I had stopped we're friends, stopp being friends,

1027
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: became friends again during the show, fell out of friendship again.

1028
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 2: But I think we are so hungry to make money

1029
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 2: that we look past that and we're able to think

1030
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: of the greater purpose. If I had a co host

1031
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: that wasn't about our fans, maybe I couldn't do the job,

1032
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But Mandy's a self starter

1033
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: like I am too, so it's not tough. Like Mandy

1034
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: and I were on tour putting together the merch table

1035
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: or doing something with the merchant of the VIP things.

1036
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: And you know, if I see her doing something, I

1037
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: don't want her to do it alone.

1038
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: Like yeah, because oh nice, Okay.

1039
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: You know, and I think she feels the same for me,

1040
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: so we definitely try and trust me, I have a

1041
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: time where I didn't even realize how much work she

1042
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: was putting in with the finance stuff. She's making spreadsheets

1043
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 2: and shit back then and doing stuff I didn't even

1044
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: understand that works. I would try to do it on

1045
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: the creative side. But like I think for me, with partnerships,

1046
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: there's a skill set that someone has that I don't.

1047
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: You know, wtf is so about the tech which is

1048
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: all Alex and not me. But I do have to

1049
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: give myself credit on how we were able to get

1050
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: this shit going. I just don't know how much on

1051
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 2: rent is or where the light people come from? What

1052
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: fuck going on? Which is great, yeah, figure out the

1053
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: other shit. Like I really learned how to use our

1054
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 2: skills and work together in that way, and it's definitely

1055
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: been touched. She's one of my tough he's one of

1056
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: my best friends, and it's like damn, now, sometimes it's

1057
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: all work. So we really have to feed that friendship.

1058
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: You know, we have to have a night where we

1059
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: get drunk together and have fun and not talk about work.

1060
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 2: We have to really do that to enjoy each other

1061
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: and separate it because it's tough.

1062
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know with Dolly. Dolly and I came from

1063
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: the nick Cannon area. A lot of people don't know this.

1064
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: So my whole hookup with Black Effects, the President of

1065
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: the Black Man, yeah.

1066
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: My stuff was an accident. It was legit. I was

1067
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: telling Dolly I was literally like flying weed money during

1068
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: the pandemic because I was I was hustling all different directions.

1069
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: But anyways, I was trying to build this show and

1070
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: I was like, Dolly, I think you should be a

1071
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: part of it. But you know, she had this other

1072
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: job offer and she's like, should I take him? Like,

1073
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: as long as they don't tell you to go to work, girl,

1074
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm all about taking all checks. I didn't know it

1075
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: was the President of the Black Effect or whatever. They

1076
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: happened to need a cooking show, and she pitched Eating

1077
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: While Broke and called me like, you're gonna kill me?

1078
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, why would I kill you? We're

1079
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: actual friends, you know, I told you. She's like, I

1080
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: told you know, iHeart and ICM and Charlemagne about Eating

1081
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: while Broke and they loved it. And I was like, okay,

1082
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: so where do I kill you? She's like, well, they

1083
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, we run a podcast network and your show

1084
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: is you want to do a TV show. I'm like, Dolly,

1085
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: the table was just built in my garage. My neighbors

1086
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: are driving past it. I actually don't even know where

1087
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: this table is gonna go, okay, And I think I

1088
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: had just found out I was pregnant or I was

1089
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: like borderline in that conversation, and I was like, shit,

1090
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: you know I was doing illegal weed activity. I was

1091
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: hustling in all these different plans, but I had this

1092
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: idea that was literally sitting in my garage, Like they

1093
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: just finished putting the forks on the table, and I'm like, Dolly,

1094
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm about to go broke. And I done pitched all

1095
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: my celebrity friends. But I don't even know if we're

1096
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: just taking this table to their house or how we're

1097
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: even doing it. So why would I kill you? Like?

1098
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: And she was like, yeah, well, they want to send

1099
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: you an offer, like and I was like, She's like,

1100
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: can you send me all your decks and stuff? And

1101
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, I had already had everything made.

1102
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: But it was really no reason to kill her. But

1103
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: even to this day, like sometimes as friends, I'll have

1104
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: to get on the phone with her and she'll be like,

1105
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk business, or we could talk friends.

1106
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: So that's how we managed the friendship. It'd be like,

1107
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: Dolly ain't joyning to hear nothing about work.

1108
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 2: That's tough. When someone's like cutting, that's tough.

1109
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah.

1110
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: I remember the first time I heard an attitude from

1111
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: Dolly when I was asking for more money.

1112
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh yeah, Dolly will tell me

1113
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: no so fast. I don't know, but you know, I separated.

1114
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: It is a safe place. It's a safer place than not,

1115
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: you know, in my heart is times with Mandy, I

1116
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: remember being so angry at her. We've definitely thought like

1117
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore. Literally, I was like, why

1118
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: I go fucking Where am I gonna go? Like all

1119
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: this goddamn money, where am I gonna Where? Am I

1120
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 2: gonna go work for someone else? Some fucking white dude?

1121
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: Like No, I'm gonna make this money with her and

1122
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: figure it the fuck out. Actually, it's interesting with our partnership.

1123
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: I recently was at dinner with someone who asked me

1124
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: about books and money spending and things like that, and

1125
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: I was like, when you talked about integrity. I just

1126
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: thought about it, whether I'm angry with Randy or not.

1127
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: I've never thought she would like take money from the

1128
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 2: company or something. Right with Alex and I were bestie,

1129
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: so we're not going to fuck each other over. And

1130
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: they were telling me about how someone been sneaking money

1131
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: out of their partnership. And I never thought of the

1132
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: bad side of what could happen for partnerships, only the good.

1133
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: But it's really because I do find strength in numbers,

1134
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: and I think partnership just builds and builds and builds

1135
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: your portfolio. I mean, I would rather have half of

1136
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: ten things, you know what I mean, especially knowing that,

1137
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: like there's so many times Alex has called me and

1138
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: is like, Yo, Neil Brennan is coming in and David

1139
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: Lehiman coming in our studios us right, or maybe I'll

1140
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: hit him up and I'll be like we're locked down

1141
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: for a week. We got a deal from Amazon. Like

1142
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 2: it's always one or the other, and it really really

1143
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: helps because when when you're trying to get all that

1144
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 2: different money, yeah, you can't do all things. I don't

1145
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: believe in people that are trying to have too much

1146
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: control over everything, you know, that's that's when it gets

1147
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: really tough. That's when you get burnt out. You've got

1148
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: to be able to alleviate some of that. I'm real

1149
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: cheap and I don't even be wanting to give money

1150
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: up to an assistant, but I realize it helps make

1151
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 2: your life easier.

1152
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: Have you have you considered bringing one on yet I

1153
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: have one, as it has been helpful.

1154
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 2: Well, our studio is so busy. She's now just the

1155
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: studio manager of the two New York locations. But oh,

1156
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: she was amazing, Like she literally helped me with my

1157
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: grandmother's funeral, you know, like when you've got a good one.

1158
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: But my sister is like a real nigga, Like she's

1159
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: not like she's not, Oh, she's so great. She'll call

1160
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: me like these mother, Like she helped me with the

1161
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: thing for the wheelchair for my dad today. Right, she

1162
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: sent me a screenshot of an email she was like

1163
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: these motherfucker's trying to play me bruh, And like it's

1164
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: so funny because like you kind of do have to

1165
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: work with someone that makes you feel comfortable. You know,

1166
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: if she was too tidied up, I don't think I

1167
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: can do it. Yeah, But like I love partnering and

1168
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: working with people that make me feel like I'm at home. Yeah, yeah,

1169
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: because when we face the world, there's a different person

1170
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: across that, you know what I'm saying. So knowing that

1171
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 2: we hire black and hire people that are a vibe

1172
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: like yeah, it's just it's so great, yeah, I.

1173
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: Think, but also finding someone that really is invested in

1174
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: your vision and your long term goals. I know with

1175
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: my crew, I love them like if I feel something's

1176
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: de routing, I'm like, dinner, lunch, we're getting together, Let's

1177
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: get to the table and find out what's going on.

1178
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: But we I genuinely like love my crew, Like.

1179
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: Everybody that works for me, I would want to have

1180
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 2: a drink with them. Yeah. That to me, I don't

1181
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 2: want to hire anybody that makes me feel like like

1182
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: anyone nerves and they're weird or like, I want to

1183
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: know they're cool, whether they be nerdy as fuck, and

1184
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: maybe we don't share those hobbies, like there has to

1185
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: be some connection there or I won't maybe care as much.

1186
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 2: And I think my thing to being a good boss

1187
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: is giving a fuck yeah, you know, writing down everyone's birthdays,

1188
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: making sure I get them a gift, sending them text

1189
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: telling them I appreciate them. I also don't say people

1190
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: work for me. Like if I'm in front of someone,

1191
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: I feel like that's.

1192
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: Do you do? You call them like your team? How

1193
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: do you reference them?

1194
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I say we work together. If someone

1195
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: wants to know, oh, I like that. Even if they

1196
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: walk in the studio and they know on the owner,

1197
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 2: I'd be like, this is Danny, he works with us,

1198
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: or like that just makes me more comfortable. Yeah, I

1199
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: find a lot of condescendingness and when people kind of

1200
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: just be like they work for me.

1201
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was at an event the other day and

1202
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: someone said, just so you know, I'm her boss, and

1203
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I don't know if you had

1204
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: to say that. I don't even know the point of

1205
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: saying it. But I think mainly in corporate and maybe

1206
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: not very small smaller well, I don't want to say

1207
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: an entrepreneurs. I don't know, but I do see. I

1208
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: guess if you're not at the higher level, you see

1209
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: that more because I don't even think the executives be

1210
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: like I'm the boss.

1211
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: No, but like look at Connell from Our Heart, Yeah,

1212
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 2: he was hugging everybody and chilling I'm like, what the

1213
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you know that's

1214
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: the thing too. I feel like there's this middle of

1215
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: success when you try to prove yourself. I can only

1216
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: related to this. When I was kind of getting some

1217
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: decent money. I wanted to wear leubatons. I wanted to

1218
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: wear my fucking one Louis buiton bag everywhere. I needed

1219
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: to throw it in your face. Yeah. Now I'm kind

1220
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: of like, you know what I mean, Like, I don't know.

1221
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that's how I feel about Montessori School right now.

1222
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: Every time I see someone, I'm like, I pay two

1223
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month for my one year old to

1224
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: go to school. I should just have it as a

1225
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: billboard at this point. Oh bro, I feel like I'm

1226
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: luxury and that's really probably a regular person thing. But

1227
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, now, that's.

1228
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: That's better than they care, you know.

1229
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: I literally, but I brag about it, like and I'm

1230
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: pretty I saw some comedian talk about like how when

1231
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: black people brag when they're rich, Asian people bragg when

1232
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: they're rich, and how white people brag when they're rich,

1233
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I'm definitely the black person

1234
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: that was like, I pay two games.

1235
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: I try to find ways in a point where I'm

1236
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: feeling a little inferior. Yeah, sometimes people you never know

1237
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 2: they're making my like it's I can't explain it. But

1238
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: there's moments where people will make you feel like you

1239
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 2: don't below in the room there. Yeah. Yeah, that's when

1240
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 2: I might do a little bit of really. Oh yeah,

1241
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think the last time I haven't I

1242
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: had this story. I told im horrible. It's on our

1243
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: Patreon where I came back from Paris and I was

1244
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: hanging in this Beyonce and jay Z party. It was

1245
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: very small, like thirty people, and after that you couldn't

1246
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: tell me shit. It was me and Alex. I was like,

1247
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: fuck you bitch with like, you know, in the air together.

1248
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 2: So I just kept finding ways to bring it up.

1249
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: So we went to like some Spotify dinner that week

1250
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: and everybody's just like, oh, horrible decisions. Never heard of it. Yes,

1251
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: actually I've been to France. Not that you asked, was

1252
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 2: there or whatever, but like, I'll be trying to figure

1253
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: out a way, but I don't know. And I think

1254
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: that's kind of when you do have and I know

1255
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: that I came from something, so I just can't say

1256
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: it came from nothing. But like when you had that struggle,

1257
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: you want to know, you want people to know I

1258
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: belong here too, Yeah, because I have a lot of

1259
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: hell of privileged people that I know that don't really

1260
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: have that that driver or the that that.

1261
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: They're the backstory, they don't need to.

1262
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 2: Like I hang with this really rich girl sometimes when

1263
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm in LA like grew up rich. I think her

1264
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: family's got a fucking castle somewhere. And I never really

1265
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: see her tell you anything about her life because she

1266
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: realizes it's so it's not part of her story. Like

1267
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: everything she's experienced isn't exciting. Like when I told her

1268
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: about the Beyonce and jay Z thing, She's like, oh yeah.

1269
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, well you met them before. She's like, yeah,

1270
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: well I used to hang with the Rnall's when I

1271
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: was a kid who own LVMA.

1272
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

1273
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay if it's trying to know the bitch,

1274
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: but like you know, so, I'm like, oh, I wonder

1275
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: if it kind of shows that you don't really have much.

1276
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: But what I appreciate is like people that can enjoy

1277
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: with you, like The first person I called after the

1278
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: Beyonce and jay Z night was Charlotta Magne over to

1279
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: bed with his wife, who was eleven thirty at night.

1280
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: Me and Alex are drunk in the street in parents.

1281
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I tell somebody, And he was so

1282
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: excited and laughed and he's like now, I'm like, bruh.

1283
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: The next time I see them one by name, but

1284
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: they put it home the Bitch for Paris, and it's

1285
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: just this cool, exciting milestone. But maybe I will get

1286
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: to the place where it doesn't matter anymore. I don't know.

1287
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: I hope not.

1288
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Speaker 1: No, no, no no. So now that you've traveled the world,

1289
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: you own companies, you're flying your family out, What advice

1290
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: would you give to someone that would even just in

1291
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: my shoes? You know? What advice would you give to

1292
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: someone that's playing hasn't fully taken off the ground yet

1293
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: and they've been hovering for a long time.

1294
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: I would say, thinking bigger than the biggest thing you're

1295
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: thinking of. I think that we sell ourselves short a lot.

1296
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: Whether it be I don't know, this is just made

1297
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: me thinking right. Eating While Broke is currently a podcast,

1298
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: it seems like next up is TV show that seems

1299
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: like what that is? Right?

1300
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: But I also want to do touring, which eighty five

1301
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: South has been like just do it, but he's like

1302
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: hell no, And eighty five for South is like do

1303
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: that shit?

1304
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: Why does Allie say now.

1305
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: She thinks I need to spend more time growing my

1306
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: audience like baby steps and then but I low key

1307
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: secretly want to do ice cube in LA, I would.

1308
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: Tell you for this piece of advice, then I would say,

1309
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: you do it in the middle. You do one show.

1310
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: You do one show in your hometown or where your

1311
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: largest base of audience is, and that's LA, right assuming Yeah,

1312
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: so it's like you do your LA show, you don't tour,

1313
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: You do your LA show. You practice, you get your

1314
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: biggest fan based there, you already have all your friends come.

1315
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: It's probably where all the talent you know is. So

1316
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: you do it right there in LA. After you do that,

1317
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: then you kind of get your feet wet or this

1318
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: space is semi big. Make a Patreon or invite your

1319
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: top fans. Write fifteen fans, really and write fifteen fans,

1320
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: have them sit and watch, laugh with you. Maybe put

1321
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 2: the ingredients out there and be like this that's what

1322
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: I got y'all gonna help me make this meal. Maybe

1323
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: they just shout at you and they share stories with you.

1324
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: When you, guys did your Patreon, what were you what

1325
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 1: was your first Like, did you even think you would

1326
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: make money when you first did the patreon?

1327
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: No, we make way too much on Patreon now. I

1328
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: mean I'm sure like there you know, there's patreons bigger

1329
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: than me. But like we did it before. I think

1330
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: we were one of the first black popular podcasts that

1331
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: we know on there, Like we had our first year

1332
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: of year seven, I mean the first year of year seven,

1333
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: and we only did it to make more money for

1334
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: the studio. Mandy and I were like, this shit costing

1335
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: too much. We ain't making no money. A friend of

1336
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: mine was like, have you heard of l Chapo trap

1337
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 2: House something like that, It's like a white podcast. I

1338
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: was like no, He's like, they make like ninety ground Patreon.

1339
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: You should.

1340
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: You guys were like, dude, du what's that right?

1341
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: I mean, shit, we don't make ninety, but we do

1342
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: make twenty.

1343
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: Get the hang out on Patreon mm hm, get the.

1344
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: But to be honest, though, our Patreon, like we started

1345
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: a high very early of people that really resonated with

1346
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: Mandy and I because we were corporate girls talking about

1347
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: and it was kind of the life that if you

1348
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: didn't live it, you'd want to live it, or you

1349
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: could see yourself living it like host stories while like

1350
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: being overdraft and are you know, being at your desk whatever.

1351
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: So we made Patreon. It was to get extra money

1352
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: for filming. I remember a thousand dollars a month feeling perfect.

1353
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: Hell, yeah that's not I know that sounds small.

1354
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: So when it got higher, Mandy and I just started

1355
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: spelling more of our personal lives on Patreon, and it

1356
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 2: became like we were just talking to fans instead of

1357
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: like doing a show. You know, like we have so

1358
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: so many guests now that people that really fucked with

1359
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: Mandy and Wheezy they want Patreon. Like a lot of

1360
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: people enjoy those episodes more. I I love like a

1361
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: better looking set, but I get it, Mandy and I'd

1362
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: be on zoom, I'd be hungover shit. I think I

1363
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: was still mollied out on one episode. I was like,

1364
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 2: oh my god, you guys didn't sleep anyway, Like people

1365
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: like that shit when you're very raw, and so we

1366
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: offer that. So it's something different. But yeah, I wouldn't

1367
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: write your closest fans if it's not Patreon right now,

1368
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 2: figure out where you talk to them the most, have

1369
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: them come and watch well.

1370
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: I think this season is the most I've seen fans

1371
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: reach out, which, by the way, I'm absolutely shocked. I'll

1372
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: get a DM like please don't stop, please don't quit.

1373
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: We love this s yeah, or like I promise you're

1374
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: asking the questions that we want you and I'll be like,

1375
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: thank you, because I for sure had a shitty day

1376
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: today and I really want to jump off a bridge,

1377
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: but that message just like literally, I know it's random,

1378
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: but help them. Yeah, I'm like, you taketed the right time,

1379
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: and I will respond that like, yo, the time. It

1380
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: couldn't have been better, thank you for saving my life.

1381
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: With fans too, Like we look at other people's numbers

1382
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: and comparison is a thief and joy.

1383
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I definitely do. I'll be like, look at them,

1384
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: but you know now I look at y'all, and I'll

1385
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: be like, take notes. People's changed.

1386
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: When we're in line to them, right, Like I remember

1387
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: when car her daddy made the sixty thousand dollars or

1388
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: sixty million, right, and I was like oh my god,

1389
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: I'll never get me. I was saying shit like that.

1390
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: I don't have that. I'm like this podcast makes how much?

1391
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: Like why am I talking like this? You know? And

1392
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: we really have to pour into ourselves better because we

1393
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: always are looking at something else. I do it with

1394
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: my body doing my hair shit, I was almost like,

1395
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: oh my god, my hair is not rain different. The

1396
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,919
Speaker 2: got my hair, like thinking about all this little shit

1397
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 2: that doesn't fucking matter, and it's like we need to

1398
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: really learn how to be happy with ourselves because like,

1399
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: I think social media has fucked me up. I'm getting

1400
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: way better at it, but like body, hair, clothes and

1401
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: success are all the things I see on Instagram and

1402
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 2: think I'm not doing well enough with and this is

1403
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 2: fucked up, but it did happen to me. I went

1404
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: to solid Core, which is this like plate's ish cool

1405
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: thing to do. It's in La Chicago, New York, Big Cities, Atlanta,

1406
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: and there's a girl on Instagram I follow that. I

1407
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 2: always thought she was like so fucking insanely hot. When

1408
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: I was in the workout, she was right next to

1409
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: me and I recognized her halfway through. She was really struggling.

1410
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: And it's not like it's something to make fun of.

1411
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: You're already working out. But I got in the car

1412
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: and I thought, oh my god, I have I'm stronger

1413
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: than I thought. I was right. I'm looking at this

1414
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 2: girl all the time on my timeline, thinking she's the

1415
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: baddest bitch in the world. And I had something like

1416
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 2: she even said to me. I was like, damn bitch,

1417
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 2: she was getting it right. We don't know each other,

1418
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, there's something we all have

1419
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: that someone else doesn't. So when you're looking and you're

1420
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: thinking that, it's not shit me. I want kids so bad. Really, yes,

1421
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,439
Speaker 2: I would love to have kids like I would love

1422
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: to have in mind over to you for a weekend.

1423
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: Oh my mom would love to watch over. My mom

1424
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: love taking somebody baby.

1425
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: Oh really, Oh she's in LA. That's perfect because I

1426
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: ain't got no family in I pay minute away.

1427
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: Well, my mom will act like it's an inconvenience, but

1428
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 2: she can't wait to do it. Let me watch your baby,

1429
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: Colleen called me, and now I've got to watch this

1430
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: damn baby. Now'll get in the house, baby prude. Anyway,

1431
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you later. Like she loves taking somebody's

1432
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: problems on her kids or anything, and like, yeah, but

1433
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: I think about that. I think. Uh. I was at

1434
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 2: a friend's kids graduation, her daughter graduately needs her, and

1435
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: I was like, like three people had asked me for

1436
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: a picture when I was in an auditorium, and I

1437
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: remember thinking like, I wonder if they think I'm like

1438
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: living this cool ass like but somebody was like, damn,

1439
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: you came from LA to be here. Someone said that

1440
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 2: to me, and I was like, when I could like

1441
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: die to be one of the parents in the front.

1442
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow, But you never know, right, like you there's

1443
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: always something we all want. Yeah, I think we all

1444
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: need that little drama in our lives to keep going.

1445
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: You think so oh like the when you say drama,

1446
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: like the need to want something more?

1447
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, how are we going to be on an autopilot

1448
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: if we have all we want? Like what do you want?

1449
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: I want this guy's limit. It's funny though, because I

1450
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: used to always want like the marriage and the baby

1451
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: because I felt like I was good at business and

1452
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: then I just sucked at personal. But now that I

1453
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: experienced marriage and the baby, I'm like, I think I'm

1454
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: gonna stay in my business life because I suck at it.

1455
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: It's just like, yo, you know what, I have to

1456
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: chop it up to Like, it's just not my forte.

1457
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why I can't master my personal but

1458
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: I could.

1459
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: It's tough. We all can't because it's not something you

1460
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: can control.

1461
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe that's it. Because I feel like in business,

1462
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: like I will pivot the fuck if it's not working,

1463
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: pivot again, pivot again. But then in my personal I'd

1464
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you went left. I don't even know what.

1465
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,959
Speaker 2: To Say's tough. Money we can control, Like I feel

1466
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 2: like I can make a million dollars easier than I

1467
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: can find a good person to date. I mean, it's

1468
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: fucked up to say that, but I really do believe that.

1469
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 2: I feel like when it's things you can control, like

1470
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: you can't control money. Let's say, like right, like there's

1471
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: people out there that are working hard at fucking are

1472
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: not getting there, but like you could possibly take up

1473
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 2: another hustle to buy somewhere money.

1474
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1475
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 2: For all was taking pictures out of Oho Pizzeria on

1476
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: the side because they would give me one hundred dollars

1477
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: a night, okay for five hours, and I would just

1478
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 2: take pictures, pictures, and I would flip them a little bit.

1479
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. The pictures of fifteen, but

1480
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 2: i'd tell people with twenty Yeah, yeah, that's like finding

1481
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: that hustle. I was on Craigslist looking for gig jobs.

1482
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: That was a caddy girl one day. Like I told

1483
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: you that.

1484
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. Like, do you think now,

1485
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: do you think entrepreneurs are like born out the womb

1486
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: or do you think they could go to college and

1487
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: then become an entrepreneur.

1488
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: I don't think entrepreneurs are for everyone. Yeah, because I

1489
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 2: think it's too exhausting. Yeah, Like I think working a

1490
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: nine to five, I think the goal for me, before

1491
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: realizing I wanted to be an entrepreneur, I wanted to

1492
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: make two fifty at a corporate time.

1493
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm still praying to hit that too fuch at a

1494
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: corporate job. Oh, at a corporate that to me would.

1495
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: Have made me not do anything else. Okay, because the

1496
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: one seventy five was great. I was living in a

1497
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 2: great apartment and traveling, but my parents needed help and

1498
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I need more money for my parents.

1499
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: If I had two fifty, that's money I could have

1500
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: to help them and if I want to have a kid,

1501
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: I can live in this money. But mind you in

1502
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: New York. Yeah yeah, like two fifty in another city

1503
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 2: might be a million dollars.

1504
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1505
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: My rent even then was twenty five d It's crazy, bro. Yeah,

1506
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: But I say all that to say nine to fivers

1507
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: are making a lot more money than entrepreneurs. Yeah, you

1508
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Entrepreneurs are out here really struggling.

1509
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: It's tough. But I think it's because some people are

1510
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: chasing a dream that they think they should do when

1511
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 2: really that's not it.

1512
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: How would they identify the dream that is it though,

1513
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: and from the dream that isn't I.

1514
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: Think one if it feels like a passion, are you

1515
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 2: happy doing it? Like? Are you doing it because you

1516
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: actually love this? Like? Why do you love making? Eating?

1517
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: While?

1518
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: Bro?

1519
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: I just love great rags to riches stories, Like I

1520
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: have some rich friends and they always tell me they

1521
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: were like in jail somewhere or they were selling as somewhere,

1522
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait, you and you live in the

1523
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: seven thousand square foot mansion in La Oh, tell me more.

1524
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: And I just love it. Like I would hang out

1525
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: and I just love the stories. I'd be like okay,

1526
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: but you know.

1527
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 2: And I would say then with your audience and feeling inspired.

1528
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: But I was definitely lucky because I felt like the

1529
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: friends that I have, like if I'm like, Damn, this

1530
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: bill was high, I'd be like, you wouldn't understand it,

1531
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: be like try me. I'd be like a thousand bucks

1532
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: to be like, Nope, that bill's high. You know, I

1533
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: really and they'd be like, no, it's high, you know.

1534
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: And so luckily I was fortunate to be with some

1535
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: friends that really like that. I felt like, damn, you're

1536
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: hanging out with me, Like if you and I hung out,

1537
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: I would be lowkey geeked just because you have a

1538
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: great personality, but I would also be lowkey geeked because

1539
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, I look up to you, like I definitely

1540
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: admire you.

1541
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: You feel like that with people sometimes where I'm like,

1542
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 2: are we like we're peers? Right? No matter if maybe

1543
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 2: like maybe my podcast has been going on longer than yours,

1544
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, that's what I'm gonna get, Like, it's

1545
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 2: still peers.

1546
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: Well you're more than just a pot Like in my eyes,

1547
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: well you and Mandy accomplished was great, But you gotta

1548
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 1: think you're a beautiful, attractive woman in the entertainment industry.

1549
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: I have sidebar conversations all the time. I'll leave a meeting,

1550
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: I'll be like, this person wants to fuck, and my

1551
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: friends will be like, how do you know, and be like, bro,

1552
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: I've been in this game way too long. I can

1553
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: tell by the questions the hints they want to fuck,

1554
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: and then I gotta navigate that. So to be attractive woman, Okay,

1555
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 1: then you're an entertainment. Then you're an entrepreneurs, then you're

1556
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: handling all this business. Then you're sale. When I hear sales,

1557
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: nothing excites me, you know how you get when I

1558
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: hear a girl could sell, I'll be like, oh, this

1559
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: is a it says, this is a real, real time,

1560
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: you know. But so I look at someone like you

1561
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, I would definitely be in awe

1562
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: like you know, like you know geeks, and same with

1563
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: my friends. Like I have my homie day Storm. I'll

1564
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: hang out in his house or whatever. He literally will

1565
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: only hang out when we work out, which sucks because

1566
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: his workouts are absolutely terrifyingly terriblely hard workouts. Were Like,

1567
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: if I want to have a talk with day Storm,

1568
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm like I'll be at your house have four to

1569
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: work out, and it'll be the worst workout of the century,

1570
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, But I still look up to him, and

1571
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: I'll still be like geeks like yo, I could walk

1572
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 1: into your house or borrow your house for the weekend.

1573
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: And but I, even though we're friends, I still look

1574
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: up to you, and you're vulnerable. But they're the real

1575
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 1: inspiration behind my show. They're realize stories and realize advice.

1576
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: And honestly sharing that to the world and then you

1577
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 2: receiving that fan feedback and things like that, like having

1578
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: the passion that making you feel good learning in the

1579
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: middle of your job. That's how you know you keep going,

1580
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But also I think the

1581
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: largest mistake entrepreneurs make is if they have a regular

1582
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: job or a steady gig, they leave it for the

1583
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: passion before the passion flourishes. Yeah, and I didn't do that,

1584
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: Like I was working eighty hours a week doing horrible

1585
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 2: and you know, literally coming in with my suitcase to

1586
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: the office, like, oh, I went to go see my parents,

1587
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: but really I had a fucking four hundred seat show

1588
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,759
Speaker 2: that we fell down, and like that. Today is different

1589
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: now it's double right and it feels great, but like, nah,

1590
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: I had to do both. I think living in the

1591
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: entertainment industry today is interesting because it could be anybody, right, Like,

1592
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: influencers have really ruined fame? You think so? Yes, I

1593
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: guess I could see that.

1594
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,839
Speaker 1: It's weird because I see, like I feel like they're

1595
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: self made and they work very hard, like when you

1596
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: look at the behind those scenes, they work hard. But

1597
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: I definitely will say I don't know. I would like

1598
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: to hear your perspective on it.

1599
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: I think influencers ruined fame because not saying that they're talentless,

1600
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: but content creation as a form of a talent. Like

1601
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: if the Internet is gone, then where do you take

1602
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: it and what do you do with it? You know,

1603
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: I have a big influencer that reached out to me.

1604
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 2: They're not going broke or anything like they're making like

1605
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: maybe thirty fortieth posts, but they reached out to me

1606
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: and we're like, I need you to have dinner with

1607
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 2: me or some shit and influence me to do some

1608
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 2: other shit. Because I realized this is like just what

1609
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: if Instagram doesn't want me to do as anymore? What

1610
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: if Instagram's advertisements for influencers, what if the hashtag goes away?

1611
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 2: Like she was terrified, and it was when TikTok was

1612
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: about to get banned or something, and I was like, damn.

1613
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. Half of my naves are

1614
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 2: off of higi ads. But she was right, like I

1615
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 2: didn't do anything else. I've just been learning this one skill,

1616
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: and that shit is tough because, like, I don't know,

1617
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want my kids to be an influencer. I

1618
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: think it also inflates when I say they ruined fame,

1619
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 2: like you have movie stars, actors, actresses, and even podcasters

1620
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 2: big fame. To me, like, it's not real.

1621
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: Well, I've seen people too that will get like ten

1622
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 1: thousand followers and they all already switch up. I'm like, yo,

1623
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: if your bank accounts still read zero, who gives a

1624
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: fuck about some likes?

1625
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 2: But the same shit is weird because the likes and

1626
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: all this stuff makes you think you're better than you

1627
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: are when there's so many more of you, So you

1628
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: really have to find a thing that makes you different.

1629
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna be honest, I follow so many girls

1630
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: that are just hot and kind of look the same

1631
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: because of their clothes, or their workouts or whatever. I

1632
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: don't think I know their names. Really. No. I remember

1633
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: sitting at Lucy and it's my favorite restaurant New York.

1634
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: I always go there in the East Village and I

1635
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: was looking at this girl and I tapped her and

1636
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: I was like, do I know you? Do we have

1637
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 2: a school together? Genuinely didn't know. I feel like I

1638
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: know you, And she was like, oh, I'm an influencer.

1639
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe I follow you. What's your name?

1640
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 2: Didn't ring a bell? Looked at it and I was like, damn,

1641
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 2: I've been following this bitter a minute. But that's it.

1642
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: You're not even connecting to the content. Yeah, because it's

1643
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 2: just grid post after grid post ups or something something.

1644
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: That's why people like just hilarious Drew Ski a Pretty

1645
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 2: V they fucking stick out because we know what they're doing.

1646
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah and they yeah, but those are also like I know. Well,

1647
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: I'll say for Pretty V because we had her aunt,

1648
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: she's she's also hard. She's like a hustler too. I

1649
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: would say she's she's more of an entrepreneur than an influencer,

1650
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: even though she started that way. You know, you could

1651
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: feel the same with like Bi simone, but something.

1652
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: That they have, something that they do.

1653
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: But I will I honestly say like, and it could

1654
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: be just me vibed, but I would say almost ninety

1655
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: percent of my guests have true integrity. There's somewhere I'll

1656
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 1: be like after interview reraps, I'll be like, wow, I

1657
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,560
Speaker 1: called bullshit and I won't say who, but there was

1658
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 1: a couple of episodes where my team I'll be like, damn,

1659
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 1: that was a bullshit, meaning like they looked bigger than

1660
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: what they were. And then when I got in, I

1661
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: was like, you don't know your shit, you're a fake.

1662
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 2: Maybe some people just get lucky.

1663
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: They got lucky, or they didn't name drop like hey,

1664
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: your baby mama helped you, or your mom helped you.

1665
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you give them the credit that they deserved.

1666
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: Get strange when people don't credit those that helped along

1667
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:38,440
Speaker 2: the way.

1668
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: I think it's completely strange.

1669
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 2: Do you know one of them?

1670
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: By the way, if you're on my show and I

1671
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: catch it, I won't say it in front of the guests,

1672
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: but I will go me even the show raps, I'll

1673
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: be like, I called bullshit. They left out somebody because

1674
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: their story isn't adding up and I will literally you

1675
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: could ask my crew, I will.

1676
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: Be wait, it was mine, the sugar daddy.

1677
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: Your your story was as real as they get. But

1678
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, you know you could tell because they'll be

1679
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: a missing gap. You know, they'll be like some part

1680
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: of the story where you'd be like that that didn't

1681
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: line up. There's something missing there. I can always tell

1682
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: because I like, well, you.

1683
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: Know, sometimes the struggle isn't what people like to show,

1684
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 2: right the highlight reels that they.

1685
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: Need to show the struggle on this show. On this show,

1686
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: you gotta tell me credit your wife.

1687
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: If you're not giving other people their flower, it never

1688
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 2: takes from you. I was gonna say to you, Charlott

1689
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: MANE makes me do that more than anyone like. It

1690
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: makes me thank my team so much. Like I've never

1691
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 2: seen anyone be so gracious towards those around him, even

1692
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: when I pay him a compliment, just no one else

1693
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: around Damn you kill this shit man. That was some

1694
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, okay.

1695
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: I've never really I've seen Charlomagye one time. So I

1696
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: literally saw him, was like, thank you so much for

1697
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 1: everything you do for me.

1698
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: Have a good day. Wait, you just met him in Atlanta.

1699
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it, and that's all I said was

1700
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 1: thank you.

1701
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 2: What every Christian famous person like normal and authentic? And

1702
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: I think I made a joke on a podcast and

1703
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 2: I tested it once. I was like, man like, they

1704
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 2: were like, who do you think is someone that you've

1705
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: met that's a celebrity that you expected to be different?

1706
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: I was like, Charlomanne answers the phone every time. I

1707
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 2: think it's very strange. Yeah, because you're so like he's

1708
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 2: literally answered. I could hear him at the breakfast club.

1709
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 2: What's up? He's monnies me, Like, just really wants to

1710
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 2: make sure he's accessible to people that he cares about.

1711
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: And I think that's what's inspired me to be a

1712
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 2: really good leader and just all around good person when

1713
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: it comes to people that have paved the way, because like,

1714
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: we don't see that, we see a lot of I

1715
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 2: I I, yeah, you know.

1716
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: Well. Also, I think the cool thing about him is

1717
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: that he has like all black woman team pretty much,

1718
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: and he treats all those women great. Because I worked

1719
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: for other people and with other people in the industry

1720
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: and it ain't like that it's more of the boys club.

1721
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: I see the boy's sting blessed and them and getting dirty.

1722
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 2: And Charlemagne is very much again an authentic person. Yeah,

1723
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: Like I heard him on a I had a call

1724
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: with him for something else, and the other person on

1725
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 2: the other end of the call was very like, what's

1726
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: the word I'm looking for, almost like a shell of

1727
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 2: themselves trying to show you how great they are. Charlamagne

1728
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 2: was in a T shirt in South Carolina, I think

1729
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: visiting family, or maybe he was outside of his crib,

1730
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: but he was like on a chair on a porch,

1731
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 2: just looking like he was chilling, and everybody else is

1732
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 2: suited up, and he's like, y'all are so lucky for

1733
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 2: me to be on this call. Just I could tell

1734
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 2: you that's what he's thinking. And he's so much of

1735
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 2: himself and still giving you gems. And I was like, Wow,

1736
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: he didn't even feel the need to like do it

1737
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: up for some Hollywood people. Yeah, because he knows like this,

1738
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 2: his brand is so raw, and I think we have

1739
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 2: to be that way. We can't try to be this

1740
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 2: person that we think other people would like, because they'll

1741
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 2: smell it just like you did. And I'm saying people

1742
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 2: smell that all day every day. You could be a

1743
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: casualist that's in that YouTube that's like this person's a liar.

1744
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, people clock it. Yeah.

1745
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 2: And for you to know that as someone that's bringing

1746
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 2: these people in, like, I think that says a lot.

1747
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1748
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eventually we'll get to the.

1749
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: Space where there's like I can actually call bullshit on

1750
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 1: the mic. I'm not there yet, I know, but there

1751
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: have been a couple where I'm like.

1752
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 2: Bull shit, what about you? Being like, there's gotta be.

1753
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: A oh I go in and you can tell because

1754
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: they won't answer the question. And that's how I know

1755
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: it's bullshit. I'll be like, Okay, you're just boy. I'll

1756
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: ask seven different ways. I'm like, Okay, I call bullshit,

1757
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: but I won't say it on the mic yet. I'm

1758
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: not there yet.

1759
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 2: Plus I guess I gotchast. They're like, oh, like be

1760
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 2: there for the moment.

1761
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then also like there's the uncomfortable space, you

1762
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: know with our shows, like we dig into the vulnerability

1763
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: a little bit deep, and I like to say to

1764
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: everybody it's a safe space. Like if I think there's

1765
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: something that you're going to say on our show that

1766
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: I think is going to ruin your career or cancel

1767
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: you do. You don't even have to send your publicist

1768
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: or whoever over to like, oh my god, Colleen or

1769
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: beg me, I'm going to remove it just on game.

1770
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm just you shared your story.

1771
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you. I think that keeping those

1772
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 2: moments like I've seen Megan James, I mean, I don't

1773
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 2: want to talk too much shit. She's spent some money

1774
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: about WTS Studio, but there's some clips where I'm like, WHOA, yeah,

1775
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm kind of surprised you invite someone

1776
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: in your space to like do that mm hm. And

1777
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: she's just sticking out of my mind right now. I'm

1778
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 2: not saying she's like a terrible person, but it's a

1779
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: it's a style interviewing that works for her. Maybe she's

1780
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: on more streams than almost who knows, but like, I

1781
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 2: don't know if I could do it.

1782
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about, honestly, like Jason Lee, to

1783
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: be honest, I feel like some of the stuff he'd

1784
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 1: be doing, I'll be like, well maybe, And I have

1785
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: this conversation with my little brother all the time, and

1786
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: I'm always like, ego, maybe maybe I should sell out,

1787
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 1: Like because I look at such as such kind of

1788
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: like how you look at social media, like look at

1789
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: this person. It's like they're really honestly, like they don't

1790
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: give a fuck about anybody's career, you know, and then

1791
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: they Jason Lee.

1792
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 2: At Charlemagne back in the day, I'm Magan James. I

1793
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 2: think you know what you're getting when you go on

1794
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: the door. Yeah, And I think people almost it's like

1795
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: ze Way. People would say, how the fuck does anyone

1796
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: keep going on there?

1797
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: Like, you know, I don't know what ze Way is, but.

1798
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: You don't know what she's the black girl that had

1799
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 2: the show on Showtime where she would ask people questions

1800
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: and like should Julia Fox. Charlemagne was a guest on there.

1801
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 2: She was her famous one.

1802
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: But what was she ask them?

1803
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: She would just ask them questions that would make them

1804
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: look bad. Oh really, Like she showed Charlemgne a diagram

1805
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 2: and had them point out someone she was like, oh

1806
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 2: so you think that white people are superior type shit?

1807
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 2: Oh okay, But like it's like she was one of

1808
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 2: those and I think like people prepare themselves for those

1809
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: funny Marco. I don't know how people say.

1810
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: What that nerves is that the one is where the

1811
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: guy just says like insulting things or something kind of yeah,

1812
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: cause I saw that show and I was like, look,

1813
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: I just love that show period.

1814
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:00,919
Speaker 2: Like it's content.

1815
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's content is very good.

1816
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 2: I think maybe it's just content that I can't make.

1817
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: But you know, it's hard for me to push unless

1818
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 2: I think something's wrong, like I do. Man on the

1819
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 2: Street for my TV show a lot. Yesterday, this guy

1820
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 2: talked about how he had met a girl to work

1821
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: or do something, and I was like, he's black. Oh

1822
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 2: what kind of girls are dating? He's like, I prefer white.

1823
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: And then I can see the camera crewisers in the back,

1824
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: Like I really He was like, yeah, I just updated

1825
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 2: a black girl and they're really crazy. I was like, okay,

1826
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: so have you ever met a Karen? Were like, well,

1827
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: I don't think that type of way. Oh, but there

1828
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: are crazy white women.

1829
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: But basically right now, my future ex husband he loves

1830
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: white women. But his thing is that black women's standards

1831
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: are are higher or like, they're not as easy as

1832
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: a white girl, and so he lives for the white girls.

1833
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: He lives for the white girls.

1834
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: Literally only cheated on me with white women to the

1835
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: point that I was like, yeah, you're dating me, so

1836
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 2: your mom is happy. Yeah, And then I realized, oh,

1837
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 2: maybe I was just light.

1838
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 1: Skinning up, Like, do you This is completely random, but

1839
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 1: I have a pet peeve about dating a guy that

1840
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: only dates mixed girls. I can't do it.

1841
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 2: I haven't missed.

1842
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you haven't.

1843
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 2: Only I didn't know, Like you don't know until.

1844
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: You don't know, but when you find I know. For me,

1845
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's a little bit of colorism

1846
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 1: issues there, Like dudes that are like I only like

1847
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 1: light skin I'm like, all right, I don't know, that's weird.

1848
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: But I started to think when my ex husband my

1849
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: future that maybe he maybe he genuinely just likes white

1850
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: girls and he's just saying that as like a cover up. No,

1851
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: I think you're right.

1852
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, she light white in a different light, Yeah, exactly,

1853
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 2: like on some real shit. I think it's kind of

1854
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 2: scary because you really have to clock them as light

1855
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 2: skinn people. You gotta clock them as mixed girls like

1856
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 2: this shit is not cute for like a man that

1857
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 2: you're dating to only date. I had a guy telling

1858
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 2: me once that I was acting dark skin He told

1859
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 2: me it was crazy that my hair wasn't super curly

1860
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 2: like most mixed girls. Wow, And he was like, you

1861
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: talk different. Wow. Yeah I don't like that round.

1862
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. I won't. I won't. Well right now,

1863
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: thank god, I'm like one hundred percent focused on not dating,

1864
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: which is this is the longest I've ever been seeing.

1865
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: That's when they be coming too. I'll be trying to

1866
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 2: act like I'm not focused on dating. I'll walk in

1867
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: the club and be like, I'm not looking for anyone.

1868
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: I like how you be positioned in it too.

1869
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: I want to date so bad, man, but it's it's tough,

1870
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 2: and honestly.

1871
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: How do you juggle a breakup with a with a business. Honestly,

1872
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: I'm terrible. If it wasn't for my high school friends

1873
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: scooping me off the floor behind closed doors. Girl, he's gonna.

1874
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 2: Be okay, you know what I'm saying, Like, I have responsibilities,

1875
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 2: like hate to get more of it. But the only

1876
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 2: things that have kept me from killing myself is my

1877
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 2: dog and my team. And it's not because they're encouraging

1878
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: me to stay, you know. And it's like, hey, we

1879
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 2: need you to be alive so we can make money.

1880
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 2: But like, literally I think about them and I'm like

1881
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: one of the people that worked for me I recently

1882
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 2: found out used to be homeless and thanks me all

1883
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 2: the time for being able to do things for their

1884
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: mother now and like it's fucking wild. I get random

1885
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 2: texts from a lot of our staff at two in

1886
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:15,680
Speaker 2: the morning, love working with you, and I'm like, all

1887
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 2: these niggas is wrong. It's such a good feeling. But

1888
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: I think about that. I think about that when I'm

1889
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 2: getting down on myself, like how dare you? Yeah, you

1890
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, you are helping all of

1891
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 2: these people. I'm gonna leave my parents alone in the world.

1892
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 2: And when I tell you, my dog no bullshit. I

1893
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 2: was just being trauma queen one day. I was like,

1894
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to be here anymore. And I looked

1895
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 2: at her. I was like, who's gonna feed me up

1896
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 2: with those little things? Like really got to bring you back.

1897
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 2: But when running those businesses, I'm sure for people that

1898
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 2: are listening that only have themselves, you probably feel like, well,

1899
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 2: who do I fight for? You? Fight for your future self?

1900
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:49,799
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1901
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:55,799
Speaker 2: Right? Everything is momentary. When you're broke, it's momentary. Sometimes

1902
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: when you get in a big check, it might be momentary.

1903
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: Like everything is kind of momentary. It's just that feeling

1904
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 2: that will last for a little bit, as strong emotions

1905
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 2: only for a little bit, even when you're crazy in love.

1906
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 2: It just kind of lasts for a period of time.

1907
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 2: And I think that when we're down, we feel like

1908
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: it's the end. But you've gotta have faith in your

1909
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: future self.

1910
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I'm a personally remember that. No,

1911
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: now that I have Zariyah, my daughter, I'm like, yo,

1912
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 1: if you leave and you the number one gangst the

1913
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: soldier for her, ain't nobody gonna go harder for ze

1914
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:31,679
Speaker 1: than you? Then then what's she gonna have? And I'm like, shit,

1915
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess that's it. You know what I'm saying.

1916
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: But I do think too though. Sometimes when you are

1917
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Speaker 1: having a bad day and you have all these responsibilities,

1918
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Speaker 1: I'll be like, well, how can I go? I got

1919
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Speaker 1: like sixteen things planned next week that I have to

1920
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Speaker 1: get done. I can't even take the one day off.

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Speaker 2: This is why they said, they all un there say

1922
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Speaker 2: this thing about how you have to have something to

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Speaker 2: look forward to week. Month, No, I think next days,

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Speaker 2: week or month. I can't remember what it is, but

1925
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Speaker 2: it's basic so that you don't get to where you

1926
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 2: feel like you have nothing. There has to be something

1927
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: on the calendar, whether it be a workout, whether it

1928
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 2: be a nail, something you scheduled for yourself. Even if

1929
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 2: it's not a trip, it's dinner at a cool place.

1930
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Speaker 2: You gotta have something because if you don't have that,

1931
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Speaker 2: then you feel hopeless, like we need to have those things.

1932
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Speaker 2: My mother actually gets like that. My mom's in her seventies.

1933
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Speaker 2: She gets so bored.

1934
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to bring the riots to your mom.

1935
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, babying to do bad. She does it

1936
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Speaker 2: with random people in like restaurants, especially if they're like

1937
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Speaker 2: black and cool. She just be looking at the baby.

1938
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Speaker 2: She won't talk either. She'll just start to do this

1939
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Speaker 2: while the mom's eating it's fine, and then keep talking

1940
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Speaker 2: to me.

1941
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, weezy, it was such a good

1942
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Speaker 1: time having you that I hope that now that you're

1943
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Speaker 1: in LA, or when you pop in LA, you hit

1944
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Speaker 1: me up. Please do and hopefully you know if you

1945
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: pass a rich dude and you want to pull me

1946
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Speaker 1: to my first day school, I want to experience. I've

1947
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: never done it.

1948
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Speaker 2: Girl, go and seek an arrangement.

1949
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Speaker 1: I will. I'm serious.

1950
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Speaker 2: I want to chuggar Daudy website.

1951
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: I want to. I'm gonna check it out and I'm

1952
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Speaker 1: gonna be texting you girl. You would not.

1953
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: Believe it at Financial Domination.

1954
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Speaker 1: Financial Domination, you got.

1955
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Speaker 2: To make people feel like shit online and they just

1956
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Speaker 2: send you money for doing it.

1957
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Speaker 1: Really, I'm gonna I'm gonna look up all these pay pigs.

1958
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna pay picks. But thank you for taking time

1959
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Speaker 1: out of be a crazy schedule to come visit and

1960
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Speaker 1: cook for me before we close out? Can you tell

1961
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Speaker 1: everybody all the different assets that you have and how

1962
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Speaker 1: to keep up with you.

1963
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on tour right now, Horrible Decisions. This is

1964
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Speaker 2: our final tours, the climax. We're not breaking up. We

1965
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Speaker 2: just really are like touring is a lot of work.

1966
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Speaker 2: Can't do it. So check us out on herr hive

1967
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Speaker 2: dot com and Horrible Decisions visit. If you're an up

1968
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Speaker 2: and coming podcaster, have a studio in New York and LA.

1969
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Speaker 2: It's super affordable. You can literally record for sixty bucks

1970
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Speaker 2: if you wanted to four a thousand if you're rich.

1971
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Speaker 2: And my TV show Sex, I was confused. Stream that

1972
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Speaker 2: motherfucker because that's the place that got the most mouthed

1973
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Speaker 2: to be so.

1974
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Speaker 1: Really just literally sit in dreaming. Not really, No, I

1975
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: want to watch it.

1976
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Speaker 2: It's really fun.

1977
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch it.

1978
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Speaker 2: It's a cute show. I go to a brothel this season.

1979
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Speaker 2: It's not out yet, but I've become a processing really.

1980
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I sat down with a client.

1981
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm definitely watching it was crazy.

1982
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Speaker 2: My favorite episode of all time on there was when

1983
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Speaker 2: my mom did phone sex. That was crazy.

1984
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Speaker 1: I feel like I would be greatest phone sex by.

1985
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Speaker 2: The way, maybe you would, it's I would.

1986
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Speaker 1: I would be phenomenal.

1987
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Speaker 2: Just so I covered the business that does it. She

1988
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Speaker 2: teaches women how to keep them on the phone.

1989
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Speaker 1: And I was in a celibate relationship, so I will say.

1990
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Speaker 2: I just got out of a simular relationship.

1991
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Speaker 1: Really, I hated it, and I absolutely hated it. I

1992
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Speaker 1: hundred and then I got with my husband, who was

1993
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: like the opposite, just a superho and I was like,

1994
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: this is the best. But it came out of a

1995
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Speaker 1: celibate relationship and ran right to the opposite.

1996
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Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, you need a good three times a week.

1997
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But thank y'all for tuning in to another episode

1998
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Speaker 1: of Eating While broke, I'm your girl, Colleen, and this

1999
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Speaker 1: is weezy Bye, y'all.

2000
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Speaker 2: Buys