1 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Luteus. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough. 2 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to soft Rep Radio Special operations, military news 3 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: and straight talk with the guys in the community. Hey, 4 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: what's going on? This is another episode of soft Rep 5 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Radio and I am your host rad and I am 6 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: kicking it today with former major of the United States 7 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: Marine Corps OH three eleven. That is Infantry Lee Stucky, 8 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: who also is running a hero USA dot org or 9 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: if I could better say participating working with I'm gonna 10 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: let Lee say hello, So go ahead and introduce yourself. Yeah, hey, man, 11 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you all have me on the show. 12 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: I want to thank Zack Armstrong for connecting to us, 13 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: a long long classmate for Mary Military Institute. We won't 14 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: go into why I went there. Wonderful. Yeah, Zach was 15 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: a great guest. I look forward to talking to him again. 16 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: I actually, you know what a great episode. Go check 17 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: that out. If you're listening to the SOFTWAREP I also 18 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: just want to say real quick to those of you listening. 19 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: You can save half off your SOFTWAREP dot com membership 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: right now if you go and register with podcast offer. 21 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: If you go to SOFTWAREP dot com Force Last podcast 22 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: Offer which is because you're listening to me and Lee talk. 23 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: We'll give you half off, so make sure you go 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: check that out. So let's kick off this interview. Yeah, okay, 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: so Lee, you joined the Marines, because why set it 26 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: back up a little bit. A couple of years before that, 27 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: I always missedievous. We'll leave it at that. And I 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: was offered the opportunity to go to military school. My 29 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: parents said, you can go to military school or JUV 30 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: and I chose A So I to military school. And 31 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: while I was at military to school, I remember specifically 32 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: a staff Sergeant Sutton, who was a reconnaissance Marine, and 33 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean the guy knew exactly what he wanted to 34 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: do all the time. The way he carried himself, just 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: everything about him was what I admired. And after I 36 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: graduated from Marion Military Institute, I went on to Auburn. 37 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: I had a really good time at Auburn. My freshman year, 38 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: I had a negative g p A and I told 39 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: myself at this point, if I continue with a negative 40 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: g p A, I'm not gonna amount to anything. And 41 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: I look back on my life and remember Staff Staring Sutton, 42 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: and I went and joined the Marine Corps. My parents 43 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: were terrified. My dad. My mom asked me who I 44 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: was going to visit at Parris Island and I said, no, Mom, 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: it's not an island, it's it's boot camp. And uh, 46 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: my dad said, I will buy you a new chap, 47 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: I'll buy you a new four wheeler. I'll buy you 48 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: whatever you want. You're not goining the Marine Corps And 49 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: I said, Dad, I'm not. I'm not right now. At 50 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: some point in my life I'll be able to buy 51 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: my own truck and buy my own foiler. But I 52 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: need a change or I'm never going to be successful. 53 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: And as soon as I went off, when I came back, 54 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: he went from you know, concerned parent to proud father. 55 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: And after that, my older brother joined a year later 56 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: in one of the Marine Corps as well. So we 57 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: were the first Marines in the family. And it went 58 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: fair to admiration within that first couple of years. And 59 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: so when you went in, you went in to be 60 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: a oh three eleven, which is infantry. And what transpired 61 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: from that, you know, what was your weapon of choice? 62 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: Tell my listener that's listening, like, what you've got to 63 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: do this? Yeah? So I started three eleven and one 64 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: was a machine gunner. Actually, I was a contract mortarman, 65 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: oh three forty one. So back then when we went 66 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: through school infantry, you had to finish the complete you know, 67 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: infantry course, and then after that you went to especially weapon. 68 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: And I showed up and on my paper and said 69 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: mortim and I didn't know what the mortar was. And 70 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: the sergeant came up to me and grabbed me and said, Stucky, 71 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: do you want to shoot a potato gun or do 72 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: you want to shoot a man's gun? And I was 73 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: like a man's gun. He's like, you're gonna be a 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: machine gun. You're not gonna shoot potatoes. And so he 75 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: made me a machine gunner in that interaction. And so 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: I became a machine gunner after that. And I towed 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: it to to forty Bravo, which shoots about a thousand 78 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: rounds per minute on the site. Right. I told you 79 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: that thing for about six six and a half years 80 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: to a point where I walked like this permanently for 81 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: a while from carrying it on our backs and heights. 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: But I love that weapon, and I knew that weapon 83 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: in and out, actually slept in. Yeah, the cruisal picks 84 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: carry pumping it through like Vietnam on your should Yeah right, yeah, 85 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: that was my best friend and I literally slept in 86 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: the sleeping bag of that thing for years. Oh wow. Yeah, 87 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: the two Bravo, that's like a seven point six to 88 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: round right, like by fifty four. Maybe I'm wrong, Craig, 89 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: and we actually have, Yeah, the golf and then the Bravo. 90 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: The golf, you would have to adjust the regulator, the 91 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: gas regulators, so at the at the fastest it will 92 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: shoot about nine fifty thousand bullets a minute. I mean, 93 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: you're you know. The terrible thing that I'll tell you is, 94 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: by the way, you're not just carrying that on flat land. 95 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: There's a thing called machine Gun Hill out in twenty 96 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: nine Palms, California, and you gotta run straight up the 97 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: hill with all the m oh yeah, it's it gets 98 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: it gets challenging. But I'll say my my fitness has 99 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: never seen a better time than the Marine Corps. I 100 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: bet right, pull up King probably, sir. Yeah, Now, it was. 101 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: It was a good though, you know, through through being enlistening, 102 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to be enlisted, and I wanted to know 103 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: what the Marines were going through, and you know what 104 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: it felt like the start at the bottom, and then 105 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: as I got to where I was getting promoted to 106 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: sergeant and looking at picking up staff and CEO. I 107 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: wanted to be an officer. And I served with some 108 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: officers in one of the tours and I didn't really 109 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: appreciate them and some of the eth school and world 110 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: decisions they made. And I wanted to be a good one. 111 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: I wanted to be one with ethics and morals and 112 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I was taking care 113 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: of my marines. And that's the reason I got a commission. 114 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: I was at a point to where I started fighting 115 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: professional mixed martial arts. I was looking, you know, I 116 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: had that dream to be on the next Ultimate Fighter 117 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: and I was gonna get out and fight, and that 118 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: was gonna be My focus is running a restaurant with 119 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: my brother who got out and helped run Zoe's Kitchen, 120 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: and I was going to be a restaurateur and U 121 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: n an a fighter and trying to get into the UFC, 122 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: and I told myself, you know, I need to give 123 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: it a chance. I want to get a commission. I 124 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: want to be in a position to where I can 125 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: take care of of the marines under me. If I 126 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: don't enjoy it. I'll get out at four years as 127 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: a captain and I'll go on and continue fighting and 128 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: run restaurants. If I like it, I'll stay. And I 129 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: ended up staying in and doing twenty three years. Twenty 130 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: three commendable years. Wow that well, thanks, you know, from 131 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: a grateful nation. Appreciate it. Yeah, you know, how tall 132 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: are you? Because they usually give the two forty to 133 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: someone who's like five six. I'm just curious here when 134 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: I started carrying, but I lost three yeah, yeah, brought 135 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: you down. Yeah. I got a good friend he was 136 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: five too, he had he was also three eleven here 137 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: from Utah. I'll give him his call signs Razor. Give 138 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: him a shout out. And he just sent me a 139 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: picture one time of him with his entire ruck sack 140 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: the same size as him, you know, and he's got 141 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: to go up the hill, you know. And I'm just like, 142 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: I've never had so much more respect for Marines, even 143 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: coming from an Army son to join the Air Force myself. 144 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, in the military family, we always joked about Marines. 145 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: But man, no, no, no chesty, all right, Lord and 146 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: savior of all war, all right for everyone, CHESTI watches 147 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: over and if you don't know, you will know because 148 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: that's who's really watching over you as CHESTI. So IE's 149 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: gonna put that out there Marine Corps, right, Oh yeah, well, 150 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: so I'll tell you. One of the things that made 151 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: me want to get from a did more than anything 152 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: is in a machine gun team, you have three people. 153 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: You have the gunner, the team leader of the ammo guy. 154 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: The ammo bear carries all the ammo. Ammo bear, and 155 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: so they don't tell you they're gonna fill up your 156 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: pack with all the ammo. And I remember looking like 157 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: a turtle like your friend probably looked at that giant 158 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: pack Phil And I was running up the hill and 159 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: as I'm running straight up the hill, I went backwards 160 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: and fell back down the hill and I couldn't even 161 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: get myself up where my team had to get me 162 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: up and like unload the m O and pick me 163 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: back up. And from that day four and I was 164 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: gonna be in it. I was gonna be a gunner. 165 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm moving up to the gun. I want to stay 166 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: at gunner. I didn't care about being a team leader, 167 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: but I'm not carrying this ammo anymore. Ye. Wow, that's crazy. 168 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: That's crazy. So you spent twenty three years, you enlist, 169 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: you learned the ranks, you hear what your men need, 170 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: and you become the leader that you probably were inspired 171 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: by some others or that didn't have quite what you're 172 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: looking for to be that. And and now you're you've 173 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: gotten out, you've decommissioned from the Marine Corps little bit, 174 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: and you saw a need to create or help me 175 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: understand a hero USA dot orgon before you do, I, 176 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: I know there's outdoors in hunting and fishing and sports, 177 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: and you just connect people with with all sorts of opportunity. 178 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: Tell us about this please. Yeah. So when we started 179 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: a hero, so I went through three combat appointments. I 180 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: went so I actually deployed two thousand three to the 181 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: invasion of Iraq. I went over there as a machine gunner. 182 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: So did that deployment obviously a pretty kinnetic deployment. And 183 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: then fast forward getting the commission. I deployed as an 184 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: officer from two thousand and seven to two thousand and eight, 185 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: spent thirteen months over in Iraq. From my second combat apployment, 186 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: extremely connetic, and then the last one was in Mosel, Iraq, 187 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: when I was actually a liaison officer with a three 188 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: one calv and it was a very very bad place. 189 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: So MOS was definitely the most connectic combat I saw. 190 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: So after coming back from that comm at deployment two 191 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: thousand seven, I was blown up by a hunter pound 192 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: I e D. And that second deployment, so you know, 193 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: for two thousand seven to two thousand nine, I really 194 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: didn't tell the complete truth when you do your post 195 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: deployment assessments, and uh, you know why why leaders think 196 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: it's a good time to give you a post deployment 197 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: assessment right before you're going to leave. You know, the 198 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: one thing between you going on leading, it's filling out 199 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: the sheet of paper. So I just you know, you're 200 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: not honest on those things, and I would be it's 201 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: hard to find somebody who's actually honest and all that 202 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: how many drinks have you had or how much trauma 203 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: did you have in combat? You just want to go 204 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: on lead. So from two thousand seven and two thousand nine, 205 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: I had a gap, you know, of a year from deployment, 206 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: but I was blown up and I was blown up 207 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: and went through a lot of other attacks during two 208 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: thousand seven, two thousand and eight, employment, and I didn't 209 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: deal with it the right way. I was focused on 210 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: getting promoted. I was focused on, you know, being the 211 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: first guy to work, the last person to leave, making 212 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: sure I state, you know, in top shape and and 213 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: be competitive to pick up captain and following to pick 214 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: up major. And so I didn't tell anybody I was 215 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: having issues. And I was sleeping barely at all, having 216 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: a lot of nightmares. When I would sleep, they said 217 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: I was having night tears. I thought I was wet 218 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: in a bed for a long time, and I was 219 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: very embarrassed, obviously a single guy dating a girl and 220 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: when she wakes up, the bed's wet, and I thought 221 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: I was wetting to bed. But I was having night 222 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: tears and my body actually thought, you know, it was 223 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: I was burning, and so I would just sweat profusely. 224 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: So I didn't say anything to anyone for a long time. 225 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: And two years of not sleeping really was not great 226 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: for my health. Going to deployment in two thousand nine 227 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: to Mosel, and again I just dealt with it. I 228 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: dealt with not sleeping. I drank extra caffeine, extra rippitts 229 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: or whatever we drink over there, and I came back 230 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: in two thousand nine on recruiting duty and it all 231 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: hit me. You know, I went from Mosel, Iraq to 232 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, Marine Corps recruiting duty in Alabama. And I 233 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: was back in my house, in my cabin where I'm 234 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: sitting right now, actually about three ft in front of 235 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: where I'm sitting, and I drank and drank and drank 236 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: and tried to sleep and tried to sleep, and I 237 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: was using alcohol to sleep and alcohol to cope and 238 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: alcohol to numb. And I went and I drank one night, 239 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: and as I was drinking, I made a decision to 240 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: kill myself and take my life. And at that night, 241 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: on Thursday and two thousand nine, I went to shoot 242 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: myself for the glock, and as I went to pull 243 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: the trigger, my cell phone was in front of me 244 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: on the counter, and it said mom, and my mom 245 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: must calling my phone. And she calls me once every 246 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: two weeks, but God told her to call me at 247 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: that time. And you know, a glock doesn't have a safety, 248 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: so she had that much time to call me, and 249 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: it rang through and I answered the phone and I 250 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: was crying, and my mom was concerned, so she came 251 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: out here and I didn't do it, took my guns, 252 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: and you know, she went and got me help, and 253 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: I went and saw people in my commander at the time, 254 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: the major was like, why didn't you ever tell me? 255 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,599 Speaker 1: So I didn't want to tell anybody was weak. And 256 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm a Marine officer. I'm supposed to be, you know, 257 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: the alpha male. I'm supposed to portray this person at strength. 258 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: I didn't want to tell anyone I was going through 259 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: these issues, and so I just did and I'm asked 260 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: it until it was almost too late. And so after 261 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: I went through getting help and and figuring out what 262 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: was wrong with me, I questioned myself, why am I assisted? 263 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: Why am I so weak? You know? Why am I 264 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: not being a man and a stronger person? And I 265 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: finally thought about it for a long time and realized 266 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: that if you go through a lot of trauma, if 267 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: you go through combat, if you get blown up, or 268 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: even if you're a civilian and you just go through 269 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: a catastrophic event or something that it scars you and 270 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: you don't have issues, you're actually probably a sociopath. And 271 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: so the fact that I was having issues after I 272 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: had gone through combat and after I was struggling meant 273 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: that I was a normal person having to go through 274 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: add normal events in my life. And so now I 275 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: realized that I've had to go through those things. So 276 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: now how can I put the pieces of the puzzle 277 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: back together? Because I'm not a weak man. I'm a 278 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: person who had to go to combat, and I'm a 279 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: person that was sent over there to take care of 280 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: others and and and lead marines. And and now when 281 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: I come back, I've got to put the pieces of 282 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: the puzzle back together. And so I immediately went out 283 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: and saying, if I'm going through this stuff, I have 284 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: other Marines that are going through stuff. And it's not 285 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: sucking up Buttercup. It's not Hey, you know, marines, keep driving. 286 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: We gotta take a time out and take a knee 287 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: every once in a while and really take an assessment 288 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: of our marines and our soldiers and our airmen, and 289 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: we gotta look at them and say, hey, listen, I 290 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: make mistakes. I've been hurt. I've gone through trauma. This 291 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: is how I got through my trauma. And as I 292 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: got older, and as I started realizing how powerful it 293 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: was to tell people you were having issues, I realized 294 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: then that this was my purpose, and so I opened 295 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: up the farm. I had a hundreds and four acres 296 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: at the time when I bought this farm from from 297 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: the invasion of a rap money. I use that I 298 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: never told anyone I had a farm. This is my 299 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: bow hunting place, and I was, like, nobody knows about it. 300 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: Once I opened this farm up and I started letting 301 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: veterans come out here and hunt white tail, God blessed 302 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: me with just enough money to buy the farm next door. 303 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: And once I opened up that property, God blessed me 304 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: with just enough to buy the next place. And now 305 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: the farm has grown exponentially, and now the programs have 306 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: gone from hunting white tail to hunting in forty countries 307 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: and eight or forty states and eight countries and doing 308 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: everything from you know, when we started, it was white 309 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: tail hut because that's what I love to do. But 310 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: I quickly realized that everyone doesn't like to hunt white tail. 311 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: Some people like to fish, some people like to ride motorcycles. 312 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: So we started programs, and we started growing programs at 313 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: a hero which is America's heroes enjoying recreation outdoors. And 314 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: we want to cover any any thing that we could 315 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: possibly do to connect veterans in first fort ponders together 316 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: so they can heal together. If it's a cup of 317 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: Joe for a hero, that's a coffee program will pay 318 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: for you wherever you live to go have coffee with 319 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: veterans and first responders to start the conversation. If it's 320 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: equine programs will connect you to an equine program so 321 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: you can get healed. You know you can heal through horses. 322 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: Whatever it is is not the important thing. The important 323 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: thing is getting like minded individuals together so we can 324 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: heal together, so we can realize, Hey, you're not you're 325 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: not alone. We're all going through this stuff. By the way, 326 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: this is what I was taking from the v A 327 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: thirty six pills. This is what I'm taking now nothing. 328 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm sleeping so much better. And you know, I'm gonna say, 329 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, so I'm not telling anybody out 330 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: there to not take medicine. But when you're when your 331 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: pills have all these warning labels on the side of 332 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: them and they give you a grocery bag full of them, 333 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: and you don't know which color does what, which thing 334 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: mixes with this thing will kill you, which thing this 335 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: might highten suicide? Why would you pour that in a 336 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: bucket and see when the bomb's going to go on. 337 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: So just the ability to bring veterans together and first 338 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: responders and say, hey, listen, these are the mistakes I've made. 339 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: This is how I got through them. This is the 340 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: obstacle that I came in contact with. This is how 341 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: I got through that obstacle. And just educate our veterans, 342 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: our first responders, and our families on how we can 343 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: heal together. We're never gonna be a hundred percent. I mean, 344 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: let's face it, after twelve years old, we're losing percentage 345 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: after that. But how can we get you as close 346 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: to as possible? Because you give yourself at a hundred 347 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: percent to the military. You know, when you go through 348 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, processing and can you do a pull up? Hey? Come? 349 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: Can you run? Hey? Can you run faster? Can you 350 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: do this job? Quicker? Can you do this? Can you 351 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: do this? You give yourself a hundred percent to them, 352 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: and then sometimes you come out maybe not physically broken, 353 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: but you know, below the surface, there's just something that's 354 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: just been you know, that has been broken and and 355 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: it's okay to bring that to light and to get 356 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: help about it and to you know, like you said, 357 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: you said it best take a knee. It's like, can 358 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: you take a knee for just a second and catch 359 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: your breath because you have endured a lot. You did 360 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: three tours. You you're like, oh, y f one or 361 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: two Operation and Enduring Freedom. You're like, oh three is 362 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: like the first wave in you know, and then you 363 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: went back into oh seven, and then again you spent 364 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: thirteen months over there, right, and then Mosel that wasn't 365 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: And this is just you. And there's so many veterans 366 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: who have been through so much, even from like Granada 367 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: in the eighties, still who are out there like Desert Storm, 368 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: Desert Shield, uh, you know, dealing with you know operations Serpent, 369 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: Gothic Serpent, with Mogadishu, where these guys still have you 370 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: know issues, you know, these these combat storties where they've 371 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: been involved, you know Kosovo in the nineties, late nineties, 372 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: you know all of this. It's just like I'm really 373 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: just talking to you. If you've had any experiences out 374 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: there and you're you're listening to our our podcast session, 375 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, I would just say that you know there 376 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: is someone out there can help you. We could be 377 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: your mom call right now. So like if you're waiting 378 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: for your mom to call, where it put it down, 379 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: step away from the pills. Okay, to think that I'll 380 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: add to that rat is I've never known anyone who's actually, 381 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: I hate saying successfully completed suicide, but I've never known 382 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: anyone that's done. Now. So everyone that I've known that 383 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: has completed suicide has been intoxicated or on a substance. 384 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: And you know, the biggest, the biggest way to just 385 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: continue the chaos is to add alcohol to it. And 386 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: I've gone to treatments twice. I finished treatment successfully. And 387 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, I love the Marine Corps 388 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: and I'm Marine Corps through and through. But if if 389 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: we are the most fierce fighting force on this entire planet, 390 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: what if we were so? And that's what drives me 391 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: not so. I mean, we celebrate the Marine Corps birthday 392 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: and the whole goal is to see who can get 393 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: the most hammered that night. And we were we were, 394 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: you know, we we focus our traditions on you know, 395 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: Ton Tavern were born in a bar and all this stuff. 396 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: But meanwhile we're letting our young, long, young marines poison 397 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: their bodies with all of this stuff. And then you know, 398 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: if they get in trouble, if they get a d UI, 399 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: or if they get you know, drinking alcohol whatever, we 400 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: hammer them and we smoke them if they get in trouble, 401 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: but we don't go to the problem, which is just alcohol. 402 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to. You know, God bless people 403 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: who can have a beer two and be okay. But 404 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: I've never seen any good things come on outcome. And 405 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: I've never been hammered and somebody walk up and say, leave, 406 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: you just made a great decision. But I've made some 407 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: really bad ones and I've destroyed a lot of relationships 408 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: or somebody else has been drinking. But there's always alcohol involved. 409 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: And you know, now that I'm forty two, what did 410 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: it do for me? And so that's one of the 411 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: things as far as veterans, if you're listening, I can 412 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: promise you if you roll back to a year A 413 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: when I was going through retiring out of the Marine Corps, depression, 414 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: everything else that I I mean, I spent twenty three 415 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: years in the Marine Corps. That's what I did since 416 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: I was nineteen years old. I went through depression and 417 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: I went through alcohol issues the last part of my career, 418 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: and where I was a year and a half ago 419 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: to where I am now is night and day. And 420 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: I changed one thing. I stopped drinking. That's the only 421 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: I went verily remembering to brush my teeth. And now 422 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: I run three nonprofits to LLCs and managed seven acres 423 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: and I did all that with one thing I changed. 424 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: That's it. And again I'm not sitting here saying you're 425 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: gonna go to hell if you drink a beer, but 426 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I'm living proof of I've stopped 427 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: one thing, whether it's a substance or whatever I mean, 428 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: and I'm it's night and day. So it kills me 429 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: because see people celebrating it and to see the new 430 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, every commercial you see is is sex and alcohol. 431 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: And we got to stop teaching or young people with 432 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: stuff because it doesn't make you cooler. It just makes 433 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: you where you have no clarity, you make stupid decisions, 434 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: and then once you fall in your face, that's when 435 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: you know who your real friends are. You know, the 436 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: ones who put their hands their foot on the back 437 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: of your head are the ones who actually pick you up. 438 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: So if you're listening and you're thinking about drinking. Don't start. 439 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: If you've been drinking and there's chaos in your life, 440 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: just stop it for a little while and watch it 441 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: clear up. I just try to go as long as 442 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: you can. You know, telling you to be a quitter, 443 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: and you just say, hey, I don't want to drink 444 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: right this second. Give me thirty more seconds. Maybe that 445 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: thirty seconds turns into two more minutes. Maybe that two 446 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: minutes last a thirty minute session, and you're not having 447 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: a beer. Maybe you can go to bed without having 448 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: that last beer. Maybe you can just wake up without 449 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: having another beer. It's almost like when I quit smoking cigarettes. 450 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: I just kept my pack of like half a pack 451 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: in my car, and if I wanted one, I was 452 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: a man enough I could choose to have one. But 453 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: I also told myself I was mad enough to not 454 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: want one. I was like, I don't need one if 455 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: I don't want one, and I just like I had 456 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: them there, I feel here. If I threw it all away, 457 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: I would go and buy it again because I didn't 458 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: have it, and I was like, well, I need to 459 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: have it, so I'd go buy it. But if I 460 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: had it, I could say I was stronger than it 461 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: and I quit a cigarettes seventeen years ago, super hard 462 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: to quit, addictive, addictive auditives you know, totally wants me 463 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: to keep smoking. You know, they wanted camel cash bro okay. 464 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: I mean like, I was like, this is how much 465 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: money am I spending on this every day? And at 466 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: the time, it was like three dollars and thirty cents. 467 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Today their their packs are like twelve dollars some places. 468 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: And so I quit smoking and I took all of 469 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: that money every day and I bought combat gear and 470 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: I would resell it. And now I have two stores, 471 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: a full indoor arena that that was a kill house 472 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: because about seventeen years ago, I took the money that 473 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: I was spending on my one habit, my one thing, 474 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: and I flipped it into a positive. And now today 475 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: I swear it's because I quit smoking cigarettes and I 476 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: bettered myself. I helped I got healthier. I was doing 477 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: war games on the every weekend and I was always 478 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: heavy breathing smoking. I was like, this is killing me. 479 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: I want to be active. I'm fighting against like nineteen 480 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: year olds and I was thirty maybe no seventeen years 481 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: I was like twenty something plus. You know what, I 482 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: didn't want my kids to see me smoking cigarettes. So 483 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: whether it's alcohol or smoking, I just kind of wanted 484 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: him not to see that, you know. So I had 485 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons to kick it. So I did it, 486 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it's not easy, and I'm just 487 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: trying to be vulnerable and open up and say, you know, 488 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: nobody's perfect. We all have vices out there, and all 489 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: you have to do is just try your best to 490 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: just kick it. And uh, yeah, you know it just 491 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: it takes a dumb moment with alcohol. You know, it's 492 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: just a dumb moment. It really does. Think about this, 493 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: I think about let's let's just pretend the military combat 494 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: pretty stressful job. Regardless of what branch gonna put that is, 495 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: that's a pretty high risk job. Then we're gonna add alcohol, 496 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: so they've probably got trauma, they're probably gonna drink. Now, 497 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: now we've got alcohol end a high intensity, high risk occupation. 498 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: And then we're gonna sprinkle in some medications from a 499 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: psychiatrist that sees you once every two years. They have 500 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: warning labels and we're just gonna see if everything works out. 501 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: Good luck. It's just crazy. And you know now that 502 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm on this end of it, I realized that when 503 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: they were giving me Ambient, and I took Ambia for 504 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: thirteen years, and after my last UH, I was at 505 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: Wounded Warrior Battalion when died War to the East. When 506 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: I retired from the Marine Corps, one of the psychiatrists 507 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: that I end up saying said, you're not supposed to 508 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: take Ambian for longer than six months if you don't 509 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: have a traumatic brain injury or post traumatic stress. This sword. 510 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: If you have a traumatic brain injury or post traumatic stress, 511 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: you're never supposed to be prescribed Ambient. I had both, 512 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: and I was on Ambian for thirteen straight years. They said, 513 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: the Navy has probably killed you. You're before you would 514 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: have died. It's crazy, but that's all I'm saying. Like 515 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: he's magic. There's are such thing as a magic pill. 516 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: There's not. Well, now that you know he's led your 517 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: He played the Joker in Batman and he died on 518 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: that movie set because they said he was taking sleeping 519 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: aids and like mixed it with a drink. You know, 520 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: he probably just like went bam, ties it back and 521 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: went to bed and didn't wake up. I mean, that's 522 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: something you know, that's just not to be kind of 523 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: mixed up, like you said. They just give you these 524 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: things and say take these and we'll see how you 525 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: do in two more years when we see you again, 526 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: if we see you again. For people out there that 527 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 1: all listen, I just hope that you really look at 528 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: the pills you're taking it. And so for American for 529 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: he wrote for our program, what I had to do 530 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, about four years ago, is 531 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: we made an alcohol free All of our events are 532 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: alcohol free. People who participate in our event, even if 533 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: it's not a veteran, is alcohol free. It's because I realized, 534 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: like we realize a liability. I don't know if you're 535 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: a veteran that's been sober for two years that had 536 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: a previous alcohol issue. And so the last thing I 537 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: want to do is put together a veterans retreat that's 538 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: supposed to make you healthier and happier, reconnect you to veterans. 539 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: And then I just happened to get alcohol donated because 540 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: I've been to some veteran nonprofits that alcohol is flowing 541 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: and it's just a bad, bad deal. And so if 542 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: I invite this person, like I invite rad I didn't know. 543 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: You've been sober for a couple of years. Your wife 544 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: lets you come. You come to the event and I 545 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: offer you to alcohol, maybe peer pressure a little bit. 546 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: You know, Hey, it's just a few drains, and then 547 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: you fall off the wagon and my nonprofit vent. The 548 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: donors are paying for this booze. It's all bad. So 549 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: we removed alcohol from everything. There's no alcohol period. I 550 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: make them sign waivers. I enforced it. I want you 551 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: to come to an a Hero event. I want you 552 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: to remember the connections you made. I want you to 553 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: remember the time you had, and I want you to 554 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: have clarities throughout the event. And I want to look 555 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: at you in the eyeballs with a sober face and 556 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: say we're gonna help you, and I'll connect you to 557 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: the resources and you'll remember it. Instead of me flying 558 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: you somewhere for four days, you get boozed up for 559 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: the whole weekend, and then at the end of it, 560 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: you don't remember. At the top, that's not what we 561 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: do with donation dollars. And so if people are listening, 562 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: if you're donating to a nonprofit, you need to check 563 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: and see if they've got an alcohol policy, because if 564 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: not you might be paying for them to get boozed 565 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: up and take bills. Yeah, kind of counterproductive to the 566 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: situation when you're trying to, you know, advocate for stopping 567 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: that and then having it on hand. And again, you 568 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: don't want to be the reason why somebody, you know, 569 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: jump back on the wagon. Yeah, but it's a cultural thing, 570 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: you're right, because it's the Labor Day barbecue, it's the 571 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's a cultural thing, right, It's the fourth 572 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: July with the grill and a cold one. It's the 573 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: ballpark with the cold one and a hot dog. It's 574 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: the you know, we see it. You know, it's everywhere. 575 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: There's a capitalism involved with it, of course, right, you know, 576 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: we can't get away from brand names of the stuff. 577 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: No matter where you turn right, whether you're driving down 578 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: the freeway, it pops up on a billboard and it's 579 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: like time for a cold one or that little I 580 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: want to say trigger that they're everywhere, which is why 581 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: it's such a hard thing to kick with alcohol, which 582 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: is why what you're saying makes sense. If you're gonna 583 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: come to the event, you come to the event to 584 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: be a dry event, right, Like, yeah, okay, cool, I'll 585 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: have some Mountain Deer or whatever other things you want 586 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: to have, but at least just not the alcohol. Like 587 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: now about a second boy, a second day at the event, 588 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: I can usually tell if somebody's bad, and I'll tell everybody, 589 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: like I'll tell everyone open kimono, like, hey, I've been 590 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: to treatment. I liked it so much, i went twice. 591 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm very open with everyone about it, you know, And 592 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: I tell everybody I went through this stuff. And and 593 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: this is the reason you're not drinking this weekend. If 594 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: you have any issues throughout the weekend, if you have 595 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: dt S, if you're shaken, if you don't feel good, 596 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: and you are a heavy drinker, please come see me 597 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: in confidence. And then I've actually taken people from that 598 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: event and flowing them out to Warrior's Heart within a week, 599 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: which is a fabulous place out in Texas in San Antonio, 600 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Texas called Warriors Hard and I'll flown veterans out there 601 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: within a week to go get treated because they needed treatment. 602 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: It's I'm not gonna judge anyone who's going through issues. 603 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: The whole purpose of coming to an a Hero event 604 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: is for me to find out what that perceived gap is. 605 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: What that thing is that you feel is just killing 606 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: your life or ruining progression. And then I'm gonna connect 607 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: you to that resource to where that that issue is gone. 608 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: Whether it be anger management, whether it be alcohol treatment, 609 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: whether it be finances, getting you in touch with the 610 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: financial counsel, VA benefits, whatever those things are, our team 611 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: will connect you and work to connect you with that 612 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: thing to get help in that area. So when you 613 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: leave on Sunday, you have hope, You have hope, and 614 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: you have resolution. Company, my folks, is a Shawn Spoon, 615 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: Senator in chief of software dot Com, just here to 616 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: say thank you for listening to the Software Radio podcast. 617 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: We sure appreciate you giving us your time. And here's 618 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: a special offer for were you if you're a new 619 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: member off your annual membership to soft rep. Just click 620 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: the link at the bottom of the page that brought 621 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: you to us today, and from all of us here 622 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: at soft Rep, thank you for listening. That's a wonderful 623 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: thing that you do. Now. Is there is there a 624 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: way that you know through is it a hero USA 625 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: dot org that you know a veteran or first responder 626 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: like out there listening can reach out and you know 627 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: start the process to open up to you guys and 628 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: say hey, what's up. Yeah, a hero USA dot org. 629 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: And we started with just purple Heart recipients from Afghanistan 630 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: and Iraq. And then after doing that for a couple 631 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: of years back in two thousand and ten, we realized 632 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: that we were we weren't taking care of our Vietnam 633 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: vet and so we opened that up. And then we 634 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: realized that there were people who didn't have a purple 635 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: heart who would commit suicide. So we opened it up 636 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: to combat veterans. And then at this past year, I 637 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: had a really good friend of mine, Jeff Parker, who 638 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: works at Yeager Pro is one of their marketing directors, 639 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: and he said, late, we don't have are relaxing time 640 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: coming back. When you all go to war, you come 641 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: back as a military member and you're safe at home. 642 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: In America, we go to combat every day as police 643 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: officers were constantly in harm's way, and we don't have 644 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: a VA. We don't have the resources veterans do. And 645 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: so that made me think about it, and I pulled 646 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: my board in and it was a unanimous bode and 647 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: we open it up the first responders and we're gonna 648 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: help them, there's not a v A form. We're gonna 649 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: support them, We're gonna resources to help them. And so 650 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: now we support veterans and first responders, and today we 651 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: brought in about eleven thousand veterans and we've stopped hundreds 652 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: of suicides with the fantastic community that we have an 653 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: eight hero And it's not me, It's not least stuck you. 654 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: There's no way I can do this, you know. It's 655 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: all of the people that give of their time. It's 656 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: all the boat owners in Pensacola and Orange Beach, It's 657 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: the people who open up their farms and making County 658 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: and Shorter Alabama. I mean people all over the country 659 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: that open their arms up for a hero because they 660 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: know that we're just trying to save locks. So yeah, 661 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean you can absolutely go there. And our board 662 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: is all volunteer. I probably make negative eighty thousand dollars 663 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: a year being the CEO of A here. I'm the 664 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: janitor to the CEO of I mean, none of us 665 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: get paid. We're all volunteers. And my farm where we're 666 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: sitting right now, we've had over eight thousand vetterans stay 667 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: in this cabin right here, and I don't know if 668 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: you've ever made eight thousand bump beds, but it ain't fine. 669 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: But this place you can hear this picture of how Carpenter. 670 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: This is a picture from Kyle Carpenter in the White 671 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: House when he got his Medal of Honor, and Kyle 672 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: stayed here, and so I've had some history books stay 673 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: in this cabin and the people that we've had walk 674 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: this farm or I mean, this is Holly Grant. We've 675 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: named all of our green fields after a renter and 676 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: who's either been killed in action or wounded in action. 677 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: I've had Navy Cross recipients, Medal of Honor recipients, people 678 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: who have actually given their life for America, have died overseas, 679 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: been brought back miraculously, have come out here and enjoyed 680 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: outdoor recreation. And so I'm just very humble to be 681 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 1: the gatekeeper and pay the light bill to bring these 682 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: well deserving veterans and first responders out here to enjoy this. 683 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: It's a very commendable thing that you're doing. And you know, uh, 684 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: and it's true. You know that's cool. The picture you 685 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: have over their Carpenter right in the gold frame right there, 686 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you can tug your camera just a little bit 687 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: so we can see that because it's just right there. Now. 688 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: That's cool, No, that's way cool. And so thus and 689 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: different veterans coming through your cabin that you're at right now, 690 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: let alone all around the country. And you've said eight countries, 691 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: but you've you go and shoot whitetail. You guys go 692 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: fly fishing, probably river rafting. Uh. You know what I 693 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: find to be fun is I find solace working with 694 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: veterans here locally in Utah is we do air soft 695 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: war games. And so you know, this gives them that 696 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to come out and put some of that battle 697 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: rattle that they've worn all the time, you know, bump 698 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: the elbows with people who maybe could never join because 699 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: of asthma, but they would be Captain America if they 700 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: had a chance. So this guy who maybe went and 701 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: did that, he becomes this professional football player, if you will, 702 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 1: a baseball player to these guys and they're like, oh 703 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: my gosh, dude. He's like, yeah, hey, let me teach 704 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: you how to wear your boots a little better, or 705 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: let me teach you how to like, you know, blouse 706 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: up your don't get no bugs inside your uniform, you know, 707 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: while we're playing war games with these these younger kids, 708 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: and so they almost become a mentor immediately out there, 709 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: you know, with their stories and their heroic here was heroics, 710 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: you know. I've worked with also thousands of different veterans 711 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: over the course of twenty years running war games here. 712 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: It's just been a huge, you know, outlet for him. 713 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: I've got guys who are former Green Berets, we've been 714 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: blown up. Who are you know, doing courses again being 715 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: able to teach and give some you know, like room 716 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: clearing knowledge to individuals who are eager to learn from them, 717 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: just in a simple sporting of like war games. And 718 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: with you having all these acres, all you would need 719 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: is like a couple of acres to host some trench 720 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: warfare air soft war games. You let me know, because 721 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: I I know a guy. Okay, I know a guy. 722 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: I I swear it, come out there and play some 723 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: war games. The disclaimer though, So I got back from 724 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: the invasion of Iraq in two thousand three and we 725 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: did military Operation Urban Terrain. So we were raiding houses 726 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: for seven months, raiding villages for seven months, and I 727 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: came back and I've been back in the stage for 728 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: maybe a week, and my body invited me to play paintball, 729 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: and I've never played paintball. I didn't even know what 730 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of knew what it was, I 731 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: didn't know, and so I was chest kicking people and 732 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: just laying the law down. I killed everybody out there. 733 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: My body comes up in shapes and he's like, dude, 734 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: this is my ten year old cousin's birthday. What are 735 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: you doing. I was just waking kid. Be careful who 736 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: you invite the birthday parties. It's the Marines. No, it's 737 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: the Marines. And I'll tell you right now because I 738 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: I sell air soft guns, right, And so every time 739 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: a marine comes in and I find out that a marine, 740 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, don't pull the charging handle, Like the first 741 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: thing you do, you like, please, don't pull the charging handle. Okay, 742 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: let me let me show you. Just pull it back 743 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's an air soft gun. Because I 744 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: had a marine just like wham, pull it back and 745 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: it's He's like, did you want the springs and stuff 746 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: out of that? And I was like, so there is that, 747 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 1: you know. I had another guy come home and straight 748 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: from Afghanistan and he put the night vision on We're 749 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: doing a night game and he dropped night vision and 750 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: we have tracer rounds, so when you're shooting them through 751 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: the night vision, it just looks just like tracers. And 752 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: so he had to go sit down for a minute. 753 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, it just sucked me right back 754 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: into the nods and to that tracer environment. And I 755 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool, well you're home around brothers. We 756 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: got you. We'll get you home again. That's the point. 757 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: You know your home. You know, if you need help, 758 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: you can reach out. I'm available, and I say it 759 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: on all of the podcast episodes. It's rad Rocking on Instagram. 760 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: You can hit me up and say, hey, Rad you 761 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: know I was listening and you said you can reach me. 762 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: And it's two in the morning. I'll try to respond. 763 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: Just if I don't respond it too in the morning 764 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: and you're tripping out, just give me a minute to 765 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: wake up and I will respond. So you have to 766 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: wait to me for me to answer. Okay, don't do 767 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: anything until I reply. I'm gonna take you up on 768 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: the air. So we got plenty of places I hear 769 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: at the farm, so my deer get a little freaked 770 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: out they're usually spold, so I don't know how they 771 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: take to it, but we'll adjust. I have stalked deer 772 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: thinking it was people in the war games here in Utah. 773 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: I was moving through like this old pond area and 774 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,959 Speaker 1: it was like weeds that are all tan and dried out, 775 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: and I was just moving. I heard this like rustling, 776 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, I got a couple of guys, 777 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm moving on. Next thing I know, did you right 778 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: in front of me? This deer goes bold right in 779 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: front of me. I was literally stalking a deer pitch 780 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: black darkness, and I was like, okay, rat deer kill people, 781 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: all right, like they could literally like beat the crap 782 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: out of you. Bro ta ta ta ta punching you 783 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: air soft gun will do nothing. Yeah, I've seen I've 784 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: seen the video where that eight point buck attacks that guy. 785 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't fight one, but just being out here though 786 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: around the farm, you would love to see the farm 787 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: and see how we dedicated the whole farm to the veterans. 788 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: And when you go around, you know it will have 789 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: the picture of Kyle. There's an area named after Kyle, 790 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: and in the shooting house it has this medal of 791 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: honor citation up in front of it, so when you're 792 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: freezing your tail off at four in the morning, you 793 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: can read what Kyle did. And it's also an opportunity 794 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: for the family members who have lost their loved ones 795 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: to have a dedicated area and I send them updated 796 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: videos and pictures of their loved ones that were killed 797 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: in combat and say that their name will never be forgotten. 798 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: They will always live at a Hero Farms, they will 799 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: always be here with us. And so it's very it's 800 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: just just a humbling feeling. But yeah, I mean the 801 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: programs are read. I'll tell you some of the neatest 802 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: programs I want to get into this is we had entertainment. 803 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: We always had music as a part of every weekend, 804 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 1: anytime I had any opportunit. You need to have country music. 805 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: I had one of my buddies and friend that lives 806 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: down the road, Kevin Adair, come play for the veterans 807 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: and he's been playing for twelve thirteen years. Wouldn't take 808 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: gas money and I could call him up at the 809 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: last minute he would come over and play music. And 810 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: fast forward to now, in the last couple of years, 811 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: we linked up with Operation Song and through Operations song. 812 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 1: We started Music for a Hero and what we do 813 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: is we bring in singers and songwriters Jeff Sylvie out 814 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: of Nashville, Kevin, Kevin Adair, Rusty Tabor, Mike Karrada, who's 815 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: a retired bring colonel is also a fantastic musician, and 816 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: we team up the veterans with the musicians and they 817 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: talk about combat, they talk about whatever is bothering them 818 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: and their trauma they went through and they write a 819 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: song together and then the musicians play it for the 820 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: crowd that night. And so I watched it, and I 821 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: watched healing take place with the veterans, and the vet 822 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: earns were healing through talking about the things they went through. 823 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: And then at the end of it, you can see 824 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,959 Speaker 1: the admiration from the musicians and they were a part 825 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: of this healing process. There was no alcohol involved, there 826 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: was no pill needed. They had hugs, they had tears, 827 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: they had happiness, they had stories, and at the end 828 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: of it, I'll watch healing take place through music. And 829 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: so we've really adopted this Music for a Hero so much. 830 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 1: We do it once a quarter now and Kevin Adair 831 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: is one of He's the main guy that runs music 832 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: for a hero, and I wanted to play for your 833 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: listeners if you don't mind. No, I don't as a 834 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: matter of fact. And I think I kind of looked 835 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: him up just real quick and uh noticed I think 836 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: streams on SoundCloud, right am? I understanding that Kevin does, 837 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: and he's here to play for us right now if 838 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: you can get him on. Yeah, dude, let's go ahead. Hey, guys, 839 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: mentally welcome, Welcome to Software Radio. Kevin. Hey, thank you. 840 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: It is I am who I am, my friend, but 841 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: no problem. Nice to meet you as well, Kevin. Now, 842 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: I think we can listen to some of your songs 843 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: on SoundCloud. Is that right there out there? Yeah, they're 844 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: on SoundCloud. Have a couple of little sites here on SoundCloud, 845 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: reverb Nation and a little small on YouTube one. But yeah, 846 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: you can find them there. And some of the songs 847 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: that we had written with operations, you can find some 848 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: of those songs there too. So tell him the name 849 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: of the album. Yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna go 850 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: ahead introduce you. You can tell us the name of 851 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: the album, and you're gonna play us a jam from it, 852 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: and you have the undivided attention to go ahead and 853 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: introduce it and play it. Sure, yeah, absolutely, Um, thank you, buddy. 854 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: The title of the album coming up is gonna be 855 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: called almost a memorial because it literally was almost a memorial. 856 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 1: I was stricken with a disease about two years ago 857 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: and a man right here actually pulled me out of 858 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: a dark spot. I feel so compelled to help these 859 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: guys out and listening to their stories and I've I've 860 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: been a part of writing some of the most powerful 861 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: songs and they're true, and they're all true. Is that's 862 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: it really inspires me to continue and keep going with that. 863 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: We put together a compilation of songs almost memorial, and 864 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: some of those songs I'm going to dedicate a hero 865 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: and um, we're gonna try to raise a little money 866 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: and help some guys out, help me, help others. That's 867 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. Okay, Well, let's hear it, dude. 868 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: I love it all right. This is telling the story 869 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: about Pretty Kango. Sure yeah, okay, um, And I think 870 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: a lot of folks can actually relate to this when 871 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: you really miss somebody. Years ago, years ago, I was 872 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: out playing and you know, just chasing a dream, and 873 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 1: I had the little girl called me in the middle 874 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: of the night one time. It was on a Wednesday, 875 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: and she tells me, you know, I can't sleep. I 876 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: can't sleep, And so I was like, you know, why, 877 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: what's wrong? But she goes, well, I miss you, you know. 878 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: And so when your baby girl tells you something like that, 879 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 1: you gotta make a move. And so I did. I 880 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: was in North Carolina and I came all the way 881 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 1: back to Alabama that night, so I saw her before 882 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: she went to school the next morning. This song is 883 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: called pretty Thing, and I'm pretty sure a lot of folks, 884 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: a lot of our guys over He's right now, they 885 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: might be thinking about their pretty thing at home. So 886 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: pretty Thing isn't me. It's not like I mean it 887 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: should be. Okay, So this is gonna be on the 888 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: album here right comp of the albums called pretty Thing. 889 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: I hope you like it, Pretty Thing? You got my 890 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 1: heart on the stream? Jam us something? Are you doing anything? 891 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: Get a little lonely week right? You know? Really get 892 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: the mission to the sound of your boats lead. Are 893 00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: you coming back soon? Are you coming back soon? You 894 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: can get pretty Thing? You're sure to make you smile. 895 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: Wenna see you. We're gonna hold you a little whin. 896 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: I get a little lonely with your not around, and 897 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: I really get to miss the sound of your boat 898 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: laid And are you coming back? So? How are you 899 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: coming back soon? To me? Going back? M yeah, pretty thing. 900 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: You've got my hard on the strength. I tell you something, 901 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: Joe is good to see you like a little lonely 902 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: way and I really getting mission the sound of both 903 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: late And how are you coming next? How are you coming, Baxon? 904 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: How are you coming Baxon? How are you coming back soon? 905 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: We're going pretty thick? That was really nice. Oh that's 906 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,479 Speaker 1: really nice. Yeah, you're very nice. Yeah, No, I like it. 907 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 1: I did, And I think that, Uh, you're the first 908 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:59,760 Speaker 1: song I've had on my episode and so musical act Okay, 909 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. That is fabulous. Yes, and you've just 910 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: opened the door for more and I love it. And 911 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 1: I thought that was wonderful. So I am now just 912 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: a whole new opening of a show is going to happen, 913 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: and I'm so excited. I love this. I'll tell you that. 914 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 1: The thing that made me really look deep into to 915 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: what's going on with Kevin is we've been raising money 916 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: for the last eleven or two at this point eleven 917 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: years and I found out he had diabetes, and I 918 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: stopped raising money for a Hero and we shifted to 919 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: raising money for him to help him. He couldn't work, 920 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 1: he couldn't pay for his insulin, and our A Hero 921 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: community stepped up and it's kept him alive for the 922 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: last two years. Took a point of where I had 923 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: a meeting to talk about a Hero with a guy 924 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 1: named Todd Holt, who owns Point Broadband and one of 925 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: the most godly right and then I've ever met. I 926 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: sat down with him for the first time and just 927 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: wanted to introduce myself, introduced a program and a hero, 928 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: and I told him about Kevin. But I really wanted 929 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 1: to bless Tide because Todd was excited to tell me 930 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: his two boys. Two of his boys were led let 931 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: their worship and we're musicians and we were going to 932 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: record an album for Kevin with Jeff Sylvie, who's a 933 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: fantastic producer, singer songwriter. Jeff Sylvie is the man, and 934 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: I was I wanted to invite his two sons, and 935 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 1: so I was telling him what Kevin's been through with diabetes. 936 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: He was struggling to get a pump and he had 937 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: to pay for an insulin pump and he didn't have 938 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: the money. And Kevin's always up being Kevin's always upbeating happy. 939 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: And about a week before I sat down with Todd, 940 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: I said, Kevin, how's everything going. He goes, well, it's good, 941 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: except I can't get a pump because I can't afford it. 942 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,959 Speaker 1: And I was like, Kevin, how much are They said 943 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,720 Speaker 1: eleven thousand, and I can't do it. And I was like, Kevin, 944 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: eleven thousand and a lot of because I'm not worth 945 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: anything at all. And he looked at me and said 946 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm not worth anything. I was like, yeah, y'all, you're 947 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: worth a lot. You're man. I told Todd Hope the 948 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: same story, and he stopped me. And I didn't tell 949 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: him this for the reason. I just told him because 950 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: I want to share a blessing with him so his 951 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,879 Speaker 1: sons could record with him and play with him. He said, Lee, 952 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm paying for his pump, and I was like, what 953 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: do you mean, sir. He goes, I'm gonna buy Kevin's 954 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,919 Speaker 1: insulin pump and out of his personal check. That man 955 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: who has never met me until that day, has never 956 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 1: met him until the other day, wrote a check and 957 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: bought him an insulent pump to keep him along. Saved 958 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: my life, saved my life literally probably new diabetes and 959 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: knew someone like Kevin and said, if there was a 960 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: chance for me today to help someone again, I would 961 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 1: And he heard it and he answered that call. And 962 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: I tell you what, anybody that comes into my my shop, 963 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: of my retail shops, if I see like when they 964 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 1: reach up, I'll see it like the little pump inserted 965 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: in him or whatever, and I'll say, are you diabetic? 966 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 1: I said, you type one? Like yeah, it's like I 967 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 1: give you ten percent off your your purchase. Like what, 968 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, It's like, you know why, because what has 969 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: it ever done for you? It's always just taken from you. 970 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 1: Diabetes just takes from the youth and from the younger kids. 971 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: And even as you get older, you and you start 972 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: getting into diabetes at that age. I'm not saying it 973 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: discriminates age. I'm just saying, you know, these young kids, 974 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: it's like, here's tempercent off your war game stuff, bro. 975 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: And they're like, you know, they cry, they tell me 976 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: they cry, and I'm like, I'm not trying to make 977 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: you cry. I'm just trying to give you something back 978 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: because it takes from you, you know, and growing up 979 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: around a whole family of diabetices myself, if I had 980 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: eleven grand to kick down for someone's pump, I would 981 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 1: do it because I get it. And that's awesome. Well, 982 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: and it's you know again, everything that happened for Kevin 983 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: is not me, and I'm a Christian. Everything that's done 984 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: through me is God, and I'm simply a vessel going 985 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 1: and doing as I'm told. God tells me where to go. 986 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,720 Speaker 1: Who do you talk to? And as I've gotten older, 987 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, we're kids. Are parents used to say if 988 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: you lay down with dogs, you'll get fleas. I finally 989 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 1: get it now, And it's not miraculous things that continue 990 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 1: to happen. It's that that with the people I surround 991 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: myself with. And you know, I stopped hanging out with 992 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 1: people who were no good and I started hanging out 993 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: with a group of people a hero community, my a 994 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: hero tribe and family and people who want to join that. 995 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: And I want to spend time with people who want 996 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: me to grow and want to see me grow physically, financially, emotionally, 997 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: and most importantly spiritually. And if you hang out with 998 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 1: people who want to see you grow and want to 999 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: see their trying be better physically, financially, emotionally, and spiritually. 1000 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: And every day that's your routine. You're trying to wake 1001 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: up to grow in those four aspects. You're always going 1002 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: to be successful. You're gonna go through struggles, you're gonna 1003 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: go through hard times. But if you keep that core 1004 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 1: group of people that want to see you happy and grow, 1005 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna grow. If you hang out with people who 1006 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: are tirds, you're probably gonna be a term. So you 1007 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,359 Speaker 1: just surround yourself, which really is you know, it really is? 1008 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,240 Speaker 1: It is. And as I've gone through this, I'm not eighty. 1009 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to pass words of wisdom. I'm only 1010 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: forty two, but I still lived about eighty years and 1011 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: forty two. And as I'm going through this life, it's 1012 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: like an e K G machine. You know. I used 1013 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: to always you know, think about any time you've been 1014 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,240 Speaker 1: successful and you've had this great thing happened. You never learned. 1015 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: You're just like, look at me, I'm great. Everyone told me, Hey, 1016 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,439 Speaker 1: I got a trophy, I'm successful. But you don't figure out, 1017 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: like what happened there and when you get down and 1018 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: like it's a terrible day, week, year, or whatever, you 1019 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,760 Speaker 1: have a pity party. You're like, poor me, life sucks, 1020 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: this is so rough. Why am I going through these struggles? 1021 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: That's when you should be figuring it out, when you're 1022 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: down at the bottom and when you're going through the 1023 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: lowest part of whatever that perceived issue is what am 1024 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: I supposed to learn? Why did God put me here? 1025 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: What am I supposed to learn? Who am I supposed 1026 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: to meet? How am I supposed to grow from this 1027 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: painful experience? And just soak it up because then when 1028 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: you get back to the top of that mountain and 1029 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 1: you're high, you're like, I know how I got back up? 1030 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,240 Speaker 1: Heare And if your life is ever like this, you're dead. 1031 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: The k either seems right, so it's never gonna be. 1032 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be one or the other. And don't have 1033 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: a pity party, but really try to learn when you're 1034 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: at your lowest and when you're going through those struggles, 1035 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,760 Speaker 1: when you're having a relationship issues, when you're having financial issues, 1036 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: figure out how you got there so you don't repeat it. 1037 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 1: But don't just have a pity party. And when you're 1038 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 1: at the top. Don't gloat and give the glory to 1039 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: God and the people that help you get there. You 1040 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: didn't get there. You didn't get there by yourself, I 1041 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 1: promise you. Nobody ever knows. No. Retail stores and businesses 1042 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 1: don't get there without everybody helping them get there. You know. 1043 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: It takes the community, community buying, you know, from the 1044 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,959 Speaker 1: merchant and having good products and reasonable you know, ideologies, 1045 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: you know, like oh I guess like you know, like 1046 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,240 Speaker 1: the customer is always right? Yes, but also how about 1047 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: buy or beware? You know, It's like, oh, I could 1048 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: buy this alcohol, I should be aware of it if 1049 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: I do. You should buy or beware on all of 1050 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: these things. I think we forget about that. It's like 1051 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 1: I er beware. It says it right there on the 1052 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: pack of smokes will kill you. Yeah, yeah, you know, 1053 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: I know I want to be like Chris la do. 1054 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: But maybe the Copenhagen maybe isn't good for me right now? Okay, 1055 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 1: maybe it's not a good choice. Maybe maybe you can 1056 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: switching and swallower. I get it, you know, but do 1057 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: you need that really to rope the bull? You know? 1058 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: Do you? I'm just saying I'm very, very cautious of 1059 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: who I spend my time with, because just the one 1060 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,399 Speaker 1: commodity you'll never get back. Now my parents. My dad's 1061 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: ninety three, my mom's seventy eight, And so now I'm 1062 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 1: trying to fight to get time back up with my family. 1063 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 1: And you know, for a long time, I was hanging 1064 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,760 Speaker 1: out with whatever friends it was for that year, whatever 1065 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: girl it was that I was dating. I don't know 1066 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: any of those people anymore, know what, do I talk 1067 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: to them? And now I'm trying to get time back 1068 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: with my parents. And you know, I'm very fortunate to 1069 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,760 Speaker 1: have a good relationship with all my siblings and parents. 1070 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: I know that's that's not always the case. But be 1071 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: careful and cautious, so who you spend your time with, 1072 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,439 Speaker 1: and make sure that that time is helping you grow 1073 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: as a person and get better. And it doesn't mean 1074 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: like somebody has to give you money or or make 1075 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: you successful, but somebody that actually cares about you, that 1076 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 1: wants to see you be successful, correct, And I think 1077 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: that's what you achieve that a hero USA dot org. 1078 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,399 Speaker 1: And you know, with that said, I would say that 1079 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 1: anyone out there that has a question, they can just 1080 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: reach out to you. Is that right at a hero 1081 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: USA dot org. And you guys will go ahead and 1082 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 1: vet them and go through the whole process of seeing 1083 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: where they would fit or point them in the direction 1084 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: of where they would work best with a team. Correct. Absolutely, Yeah, 1085 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 1: they they here USA dot org. They can go and 1086 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: register or leave comments. You can also email me at 1087 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: a hero stucky s t U c K E y 1088 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: at gmail. Um. You know, and the biggest thing is 1089 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 1: we want to stop everybody. We want to be that call. 1090 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: We want to be that phone call that that that 1091 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: gets your help or you know, if you're not, you know, 1092 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: contemplating suicide, just wanna get back on the right path. 1093 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 1: We want to help you do that as well. And 1094 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 1: the coolest thing we've started in the last year is 1095 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,319 Speaker 1: a parallel effort with a group called Operation Phoenix, which 1096 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 1: is a nonprofit that we just started that trains veterans 1097 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,720 Speaker 1: and first responders and wild and firefighting and prescribe burning 1098 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,320 Speaker 1: and managing property. So after bringing in eleven thousand veterans 1099 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,959 Speaker 1: and first responders and hearing the usual issue is they're 1100 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 1: not satisfied with their employment, they don't have a purpose, 1101 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 1: they don't have pride and belonging anymore when they go 1102 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: to work, and so we want to retrain them, will 1103 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 1: certify them, We will pay for their certification, and they 1104 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 1: will help them get employed either private sector or federal 1105 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: or state employment as a wild wind firefighter, prescribed burn management, 1106 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,240 Speaker 1: or through some of our new internet companies like Point Broadband. 1107 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 1: Todd Holt we talked about we're discussing training veterans and 1108 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: first responders in that as well, but really just give 1109 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: you a new sense of purpose. Connect you back with 1110 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 1: those veterans and first responders, those like minded people, so 1111 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 1: we can help you grow in a better, better way. 1112 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: It's just really exciting stuff. And I'll tell you, after 1113 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: going through this for twelve almost thirteen years running this nonprofit, 1114 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: we've lost some We've lost two through the program, but 1115 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: we've saved a lot. And the echoed worst case scenario 1116 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: is always substances, whether it be alcohol or drugs, and 1117 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: it's always a lack of pride and belonging in a 1118 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: lack of purpose. Those two biggest things, their occupational goals 1119 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: and their substant use has been bad. And I buried 1120 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 1: my grandmother a couple of weeks ago, and she she 1121 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 1: was ninety eight, so she's back with my grandfather in heaven. 1122 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: And I hated to see her leave, but I'm glad 1123 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 1: she's happy and she's she's comfortable now. As I was 1124 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,439 Speaker 1: burying her, they did, they cremated her, and they dug 1125 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: a little post hole and they poured her ashes at 1126 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: the cemetery, and I'm looking at the tombstones of my grandfather, 1127 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 1: who was a US or, a state senator, and a 1128 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: circuit judge for forty something years US Air Force captain. 1129 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 1: Both of them had accolades on their tombstones. And what 1130 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: really hit home was when they poured the ashes in 1131 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: that hole that was probably this big. That was it. 1132 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: There was no car, there was no house. There was 1133 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 1: no helicopter. For anybody out there that has a helicopter, 1134 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: that's awesome. There was none of that stuff. It was 1135 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: just ashes. Nothing followed that ash. And so if anyone's 1136 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 1: out there living for things and living for items and 1137 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: living for material possessions, at the end, you're gonna be 1138 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: put in the ground like a fruit tree. And there's 1139 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: no Mercedes one in the whole week. And this is 1140 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 1: not a lecture, but it just really hit home to 1141 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: me because I am a person who has a lot 1142 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: of guns. I do like to hunt. I have a 1143 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 1: weird amount of guns. But it really made me think, 1144 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: what is all? What do we need all these material 1145 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 1: things for? Just be a good person, because when you leave, 1146 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: you have your legacy, You have how people remember you, 1147 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 1: and that's you don't take anything else. Relationship, your relationship. 1148 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 1: So rad we go to your funeral, hopefully fifty sixty 1149 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 1: years from now, what do you want them to say 1150 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: about you? And if you don't like what you think 1151 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: you're here you got time to fix it. You got 1152 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 1: time to to to change it and to change your 1153 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: euogy in motion. Oh yeah, I've already found this what 1154 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about. I'm forty four, so I got two 1155 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: years on you, little brother. Listen, no, no, no, no, 1156 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 1: I found this already. I've already came to my agreement 1157 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: that my time on earth is about my relationships that 1158 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 1: I build with each other and the people around me. 1159 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: I am far past, you know, needing anything of a 1160 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: gaudy nature to accept. Okay, my glasses All right, let's 1161 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 1: take him off for a second. I'll give you the 1162 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: real met So, yeah, I have come to my own 1163 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: agreeance on like where I'm going to be at the 1164 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 1: end of this day, you know. And if my dad 1165 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: believed in it and I see him again, then I'll 1166 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 1: see him again, okay. And if God is there and 1167 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: he looks at me and says, hey, rad welcome to heaven, 1168 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 1: I'll say, bro, what do you want me to do? Okay? 1169 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: Because there you are, so growing up in a predominantly 1170 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Mormon state myself here in Utah. I'll tell you there's 1171 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, Christian beliefs and values around 1172 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: here that I'd like to see be good to go. 1173 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 1: So I'll just be a positive influence and just always 1174 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 1: do the Golden Rule onto others and approach him and 1175 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 1: give what I get, So the respect I want is 1176 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: what I'll give. I think that's the best way to go. 1177 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:02,320 Speaker 1: For some reason, looking at you and your glasses and 1178 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: hearing your name, Rand, I think that they're gonna welcome 1179 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,919 Speaker 1: you into heaven with a stratocaster. Yeah, and they're gonna 1180 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: be playing something. You can hang out with me anytime, 1181 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: I promise, And if I can't quite make it there, 1182 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: just come visit me. Because if you're at the top, 1183 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: I got your backstage pass. You just come on and 1184 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 1: see me, okay, And Kevin, I just want to say 1185 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 1: that was very very nice to listen to and uh 1186 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: and pleasing. I just want to let you know, okay, 1187 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 1: and good tune coming out of your voice. I wasn't 1188 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,439 Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, you're welcome and it sounded great, So 1189 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: I want to just you know, prop you up a 1190 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 1: little more. And it's Kevin Adair and that is on 1191 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 1: reverb Nation and SoundCloud. So we'll put a link in 1192 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,919 Speaker 1: the bottom and you know, anyone that's been listening, we'll 1193 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: be able to go check out some more of your 1194 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: music catalog A hero USA dot org is Yeah, you're welcome. 1195 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Is Lee Stuckies, Uh, brainchild and baby and uh. He's 1196 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 1: a conduit of positivity and a lighthouse and a in 1197 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: a big sea storm. So reach out to him if 1198 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 1: you need any assistance. And with that, is there anything else? 1199 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Can I call it a good night show? Are we good? 1200 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: We have it back on another time and talk now. Yeah, 1201 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 1: it's been great and I'd love to come back on 1202 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: the show. And I really appreciate the opportunity. And shout 1203 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 1: out to Zack Armstrong for putting up with me in 1204 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: military school and for continuing to grow and and it's 1205 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: it's ironic to think back to where we were back 1206 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: then and where we are now, and I'm glad to 1207 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 1: see him just be so successful and so much better. 1208 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you I've fallen on my face enough 1209 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 1: to where my nose should be flat. But I'm just 1210 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 1: glad that I had the team around me and the 1211 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: people and and support to get up and continue to 1212 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: help people. And I know that without a doubt, God 1213 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 1: put me on this earth to help people, and that's 1214 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna continue to do until the day I die. 1215 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: That's awesome. And I just want to give a shout 1216 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 1: out to a listener that goes I believe I'm probably 1217 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 1: gonna say the name wrong. It's ni Ma or Nia Ma, 1218 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: and I am okay. She recommended Zach. Zach recommended you, 1219 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: so I gotta give her a shout out, and I 1220 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: just want to let her know that I'm listening and 1221 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: I see your comments and I get your feedback, and 1222 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 1: we appreciate you submitting great talent that should be on 1223 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 1: SOFTWAREP And if you're listening and you'd like to be 1224 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: on SOFTWAREP Radio, you can hit up the I think 1225 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,439 Speaker 1: I should be on SOFTWAREP Radio and talk with rat 1226 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 1: about something and maybe we'll pick you. So again, to 1227 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 1: my listeners who have listened or just joined in, you 1228 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 1: can go and go ahead, yeah, please please. More thing 1229 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: I've forgotten about, but I think it's important to finish 1230 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 1: with this for me is you know, we get too 1231 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: called up and figuring out what should be stressful of 1232 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 1: what should and going through the military, Like when the 1233 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Marines would come in and tell me how they're stressed out, 1234 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 1: what they're going through. You know, we're human a lot 1235 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,479 Speaker 1: of times like that's not that big of a deal. 1236 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 1: I had to stop doing that, and I had to 1237 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 1: realize after up a lot of veterans going through this 1238 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: process that it doesn't matter if it stresses me out 1239 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 1: to hear their story. Whatever is stressing somebody else out 1240 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 1: and whatever it's causing chaos in that person's life, don't 1241 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 1: discount if somebody maybe isn't a combat that from the 1242 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: war and Falluja or whatever, but they served and they're 1243 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 1: stressed out and having issues. They still need help. If 1244 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 1: people are reaching out, don't try to gauge their stress 1245 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 1: and figure out, well, if that's not really a big deal, 1246 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 1: it is a big deal to them. And so the 1247 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: more I've done this, the more I realize trauma's trauma, 1248 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: whether it be combat, non combat, whatever, it doesn't matter 1249 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 1: to me. When veterans and first responders come to me. 1250 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't judge them. I don't try to say, well 1251 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 1: that that doesn't sound like enough war to come to us. 1252 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 1: I just want to help people. And I think the 1253 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: more we realize that we're not supposed to judge other 1254 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: people's stress, we're not supposed to figure out why they're 1255 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: stressed out. They're just reaching out because they want help. 1256 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: So just help you, and you'll get a lot farther, 1257 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people will listen to you, and you'll 1258 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 1: help a lot more people that way. I love it. 1259 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: I do, and you know, god, dude, it's just so 1260 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 1: close to home because right now I got a friend 1261 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 1: who's been hitting me up on a messenger just like 1262 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: he just got out of a unit, not not like 1263 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 1: a military well, he was in the Navy, using the submarines, 1264 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 1: but he's been out for a while. He's got out 1265 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: of like a hospital unit where he was dealing with demons, 1266 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 1: and he just got out like two days ago, and 1267 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 1: then he hit me up again last night, and he's 1268 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 1: just like I think I'm having demons again, and I'm 1269 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: just gonna try to, like, you know, knock him out 1270 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,439 Speaker 1: with alcohol or whatever I can find. I was just like, well, 1271 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: have you tried anything else other than you know, pills. 1272 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: Have you tried any like going outside and doing anything. 1273 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna sell all my stuff. I'm just 1274 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna get I just had this huge worst relationship. She 1275 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: doesn't love me anymore. You know this a lot. And 1276 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here listening to you thinking about him. 1277 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, this is like fresh on my play right, 1278 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 1: and I'm handling his conversation saying, you know, I got you, bro, Like, um, 1279 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 1: what you know? I almost want to say, you know, 1280 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 1: I know you're your own man to make your own choices, 1281 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 1: and you're I've talked to you so many times. How 1282 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 1: much more I keep talking to you to tell you 1283 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,439 Speaker 1: that you matter? Because you matter? You know. Maybe often 1284 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 1: so when they do reach out and they are just 1285 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,479 Speaker 1: and so they're throwing that flag out there like, hey, 1286 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm hitting you up at two in the morning, my 1287 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: messenger rat and I'm like you are, And so when 1288 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 1: I say hit me up, I'll hit me up right, 1289 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 1: I got I'll talk to you. It's that easy, right 1290 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Customer service Yea. The one thing is to go back 1291 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 1: to our earlier conversation. If the guys dealing with demons, 1292 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,919 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to add spirits to the demon conversation. 1293 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 1: So so drinking, I know, spirits to the demon. So true, 1294 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 1: it's so true. So again, let's just you know, hit 1295 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 1: up a hero USA dot org. If you're listening to me, 1296 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 1: you know I'm talking about you specifically my friends, So 1297 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 1: hit up a hero USA dot org and hit up 1298 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 1: Lee and you know, go listen to some of Kevin's 1299 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,959 Speaker 1: tunes and uh, you know, get to know some fly 1300 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 1: fishing and maybe trying a fly or riding a horse. Okay, 1301 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 1: And with that said, Lee and Kevin, thank you for 1302 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 1: joining us. And uh, I'm gonna say thank you from 1303 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Software Radio, our listeners and the community. And my name 1304 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 1: is Rad and I'm gonna say peace. You've been listening 1305 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: to self red Lydia