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Speaker 2: Made it to a Friday Meet Friday, the final Friday
Speaker 2: for Seaton o'connery in the building. Your phone calls always welcome.
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Speaker 2: pick the menu for Meet Friday, and he chose some
Speaker 2: of our favorites. I love my Kumamoto oysters with a
Speaker 2: little pesto, mignette, pigs in a blanket for Fritzy, blt
Speaker 2: with no tea for Paulie, Shirley Temples, smoked Shirley Temples
Speaker 2: for Marvin, and Seaton said he would like to have
Speaker 2: the Chipwitch sandwiches as well. All right, eight seven to
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Speaker 2: Tyler sitting by to take those phone calls. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to Rich Eisen a little bit later on as well.
Speaker 2: Say good morning to those watching on Peacock, our streaming partner,
Speaker 2: also NBC Sports Network. I mentioned towards the end of
Speaker 2: last hour, still don't know when the super Bowl is
Speaker 2: going b but that does affect me because I'm retiring
Speaker 2: at the super Bowl. I just had a source with
Speaker 2: the NFL say Commissioner Goodell's goal has always been to
Speaker 2: have the game moved to the day before President's Day.
Speaker 2: President's Day in twenty twenty eight will be Monday, February
Speaker 2: twenty first. I believe they will have the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: on February twentieth and start a week earlier on the
Speaker 2: front end in late August early September. Nothing official, that's
Speaker 2: just from a source. We'll talk to Mike McCarroll. He's
Speaker 2: written a book about George Steinbrenner and the Yankees. He'll
Speaker 2: join us coming up a little bit later on this hour.
Speaker 2: We make way for the Hall of Famer Doc Rivers,
Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Bucks head coach whose attention is not on
Speaker 2: me in this show.
Speaker 3: It's on watching The Masters.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 3: I see what you're doing. You're watching the Masters, aren't you?
Speaker 4: I sure?
Speaker 5: Am? You know that the Master's app is on right now,
Speaker 5: so I'm watching the feature groups.
Speaker 4: Dan, Dan, I'm talking to you in a while. You know,
Speaker 4: what's going on with you?
Speaker 2: I kind of status quo, just you know, kind of
Speaker 2: running out playing out the string here, you know, just
Speaker 2: the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: When are you retiring?
Speaker 4: Playing out the string here last?
Speaker 3: Okay, who retires? First? Doc?
Speaker 4: Oh man, I got a fill in? What did you say?
Speaker 4: Twenty eight, twenty.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight February of twenty twenty eight. Well, you still
Speaker 2: be coaching in the NBA.
Speaker 4: I think there's a very good chance I'm going to
Speaker 4: beat you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll meet afterwards to have a drink somewhere.
Speaker 3: Is this year last season?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know that, but you know, I'm leaning a
Speaker 5: lot of different ways, you know, so I don't want
Speaker 5: to commit to anything.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 5: You know, Dan, it's so tough and you probably have
Speaker 5: dealt with this. The word retirement means you don't work
Speaker 5: at all, and I don't think I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 5: I would drive people nuts if I was at home
Speaker 5: every day.
Speaker 2: Are you still having fun? This has been a pretty tough,
Speaker 2: trying year.
Speaker 4: But yeah, this has been a rough year.
Speaker 5: Nothing like you know, if you if you read Cham's
Speaker 5: article the other day, that that article was so far
Speaker 5: off base that it was nowhere near like as hectic
Speaker 5: or what where toxic situation as it as it looks.
Speaker 5: But it's still losing, Dan, You know, this is my
Speaker 5: first losing season in twenty seasons. That's the hell of
Speaker 5: a run. Losing is no fun for anyone. And then
Speaker 5: the Yannis situation has been really rough for everyone, including
Speaker 5: the honest. So this has not been a fun year.
Speaker 5: But every year is not gonna be fun. Then you
Speaker 5: don't have great years every year, and you just deal
Speaker 5: with it.
Speaker 4: So I look at it.
Speaker 5: I put it in that compartment and not nearly as
Speaker 5: bad as made look on the outside.
Speaker 3: What does Giannis want?
Speaker 4: Boy?
Speaker 5: I don't know, uh, And we talk probably more than anyone,
Speaker 5: you know, Dan. It's a tough one because he has
Speaker 5: done such a great job here in Milwaukee, right, and
Speaker 5: yet he still wants to win a title, and clearly
Speaker 5: we have to do a better job here with our
Speaker 5: roster to make that even look like a possibility. And
Speaker 5: if we can't do that, uh, then he's gonna look outward.
Speaker 5: And so I think that's a twofold answer. I think one.
Speaker 5: If we had all the pieces here, I have no
Speaker 5: doubt he'd want to stay here, But we don't, and
Speaker 5: so that puts him in a tough spot.
Speaker 3: What say do you have in this?
Speaker 5: Not a lot just with him trying to guide him,
Speaker 5: you know, Uh, we talk a lot about it. I
Speaker 5: can tell you that.
Speaker 3: And why is these last couple he wanted to play? Correct?
Speaker 3: Is he he.
Speaker 4: Wanted to play?
Speaker 5: He just hasn't been cleared, you know. And so that's
Speaker 5: another one where I'm kind of caught the metal. I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: this was a playoff game, you would play them. But
Speaker 5: if it wasn't a playoff game, there's no way you
Speaker 5: would play them. I think that would be the correct answer.
Speaker 2: Talking to Doc Rivers, Hall of Famer, and uh, watching
Speaker 2: the Masters here, have you played Augusta?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I have.
Speaker 3: Who'd you play?
Speaker 4: Didn't play it? But Jimmy Dunn who was a great guy,
Speaker 4: and then two other friends.
Speaker 5: Uh, I had a great time, played miserably. You know, Dan,
Speaker 5: I've been in finals. I've been I've been in so
Speaker 5: many prestious situations.
Speaker 3: How nervous were you?
Speaker 5: Oh? I got to tell you in the first tea box.
Speaker 5: I think it was kind of Lisa Rice. I want
Speaker 5: to say Peyton Manning of all people were coming out
Speaker 5: and they were you know Peyton, you know, and it
Speaker 5: was hard for me to put the thing back, Like
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there likes it's just a golf course, but
Speaker 5: it's not just the golf course it is.
Speaker 4: It's one amazing place you So, yeah, I was a
Speaker 4: little nervous.
Speaker 2: I got traded on the first t by my caddy. No, yes,
Speaker 2: like they were betting on us. And my caddy caddied
Speaker 2: for Sevy when he won in nineteen eighty and I
Speaker 2: just remember they swapped bags after my t shot and
Speaker 2: I said, what happened, and the caddie goes, you just
Speaker 2: got traded on the first team.
Speaker 5: Well, I can tell you my caddy took a big
Speaker 5: loss because I hit a huge drive on one, so
Speaker 5: I did. I ripped it and I saw my caddie
Speaker 5: give two people high five. That was the only big
Speaker 5: shot I hit.
Speaker 3: How did you find out about the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: I'm sitting exactly where I was sitting, as a matter
Speaker 5: of fact, and I get a call from the Hall.
Speaker 4: It's funny.
Speaker 5: I have my phone block, which I learned to non
Speaker 5: numbers that aren't stored, and so I didn't answer the
Speaker 5: phone then, you know, which was hilarious, And I get
Speaker 5: a text, Hey, Doc, this is Sessions us from a
Speaker 5: whole Well, we really need you to answer the phone.
Speaker 5: So I was in the doghouse before I got in
Speaker 5: the house, you know, and it's a great call day.
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you it's you know, it's funny.
Speaker 5: I get the call and they said, Doc, you're in
Speaker 5: the hall, and I did, it's not something you worked for,
Speaker 5: Like you don't work to be in the hall. At
Speaker 5: least I can tell you I've worked because I love coaching.
Speaker 5: I love whatever else comes with it. But when I
Speaker 5: called my brother and he answered the phone and I
Speaker 5: told him he was golfing, which pissed me off, and
Speaker 5: he just start crying. And it was like the most
Speaker 5: emotional thing because my parents are no longer with us,
Speaker 5: and he just said my two parents' names and start bawling.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 4: He walked away from the phone.
Speaker 5: Another guy pitched the phone up who I still don't
Speaker 5: know who that was. And the guy says, hey, Doc,
Speaker 5: is everything okay?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: And I said, yes, things are good. I'm in the
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. So he start whoever the guy was
Speaker 5: start celebrating to me.
Speaker 4: Uh. So that was my first five minutes in the hall.
Speaker 4: It was pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Now you have your nickname after doctor J.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Could doctor J be part of the induction ceremony.
Speaker 4: That's not a bad call.
Speaker 5: It could be there's other names to uh, you know,
Speaker 5: pat Riley, Kevin Garnett. So it's so funny, Dan, this
Speaker 5: are the other things I don't. I've never been in
Speaker 5: the hall, so I've had twenty people ask me what
Speaker 5: you're asking me. Who's gonna introduce me? Uh, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of guys.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: One thing you know with your success, you don't you
Speaker 5: don't reach success without a lot of people helping you.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: It's really you and a whole team that people don't know.
Speaker 5: And so anybody I asked would be someone who helped me.
Speaker 5: Pat Riley was instrumental in me coaching. Kevin Garnett is
Speaker 5: instrumental me getting my success. Wayne Hembry probably is the
Speaker 5: most important person in my life. Uh, just because he
Speaker 5: was guiding me even in college. So there's a lot
Speaker 5: of people.
Speaker 3: I've been talking about.
Speaker 2: The Rookie of the Year with Konk Nipple is favored
Speaker 2: over Cooper flag. Just to give you my opinion, I
Speaker 2: don't think this should be close. I think what Cooper
Speaker 2: Flagg is doing at nineteen as the guy night in
Speaker 2: and night out as imposed to Cannipple, who's the third
Speaker 2: option for a playoff team, wonderful year. But Cooper Flag's
Speaker 2: nineteen years of age doing some things that we haven't
Speaker 2: seen since Lebron. Your thoughts on who should be the
Speaker 2: Rookie of the year, I.
Speaker 5: Tell you, I do think it's close, and I've gone
Speaker 5: back and forth on it because it's this year probably
Speaker 5: more than any year than I can remember. It's probably
Speaker 5: it's almost two categories. Cooper Flag's numbers just scream at you.
Speaker 5: They really do. Scoring forty, scored fifty, being the point guard, playing.
Speaker 4: A position that he's never played before. Hell that night,
Speaker 4: and and the.
Speaker 5: Featured guy each night, Like when you play Dallas, you're
Speaker 5: preparing for Cooper Flag.
Speaker 4: But what what con.
Speaker 5: Has done is, in my opinion, he's changed the the
Speaker 5: culture of an organization that has had cultural problems with
Speaker 5: his which his approach, you know, his his play is tough.
Speaker 5: He's a tough he's a two way player. I've never
Speaker 5: seen a rookie have an impact on a team as
Speaker 5: much as he has had, and there's something to be
Speaker 5: said about that as well. And the reason he doesn't
Speaker 5: have the numbers is because he is on a good team,
Speaker 5: you know. So he's sharing the ball with LaMelo Ball
Speaker 5: and Bridges and everybody else.
Speaker 3: You think he could be a featured guy and score again.
Speaker 5: I think he can score more points if he is
Speaker 5: on a team was worse. But he's such a team player,
Speaker 5: he's such a leader, and I do think from a
Speaker 5: coaching stand point that that means a lot. But you're right,
Speaker 5: it's it's it's a tough I wish this is the
Speaker 5: one year. I would be fine if they had co MVPs. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but if you just go on numbers, which is what
Speaker 5: you're supposed to do, You're right, it's Cooper flag. If
Speaker 5: you're going impact, it's con And that's how I look
Speaker 5: at it.
Speaker 2: Uh, have you had anybody match Kevin Garnet's intensity in
Speaker 2: your career? No?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say intensity.
Speaker 5: Yet I've had some guys, you know, Patrick Beverley was nuts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so I would throw him out there or
Speaker 3: bad nuts.
Speaker 4: It depends on the game, you know.
Speaker 5: I joke one night I was very upset at the
Speaker 5: way Patrick played and uh Pet played and I told him,
Speaker 5: I said, I'm gonna put you on the all Scared
Speaker 5: team And he's like, what's that?
Speaker 4: You scared me? Just scare them?
Speaker 5: And I said, I don't know. Which way to go
Speaker 5: every time I put you in. But that was so
Speaker 5: dain competitive man like he you know, it's funny. He
Speaker 5: was a good defender, but he was a great defender
Speaker 5: because he scared the hell out of the guy who
Speaker 5: was garden every night.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: And Kevin KG had a lot of that. What I've
Speaker 5: never had with Kevin. I've never had a leader like
Speaker 5: Kevin ever. Like Kevin cleaned up the locker room for
Speaker 5: me every single day. If shoot rounds are bad, Kevin
Speaker 5: patrolled it.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: I mean, when you've got something like that on your team,
Speaker 5: it makes coaching a whole lot easier.
Speaker 3: How would he have been as a coach?
Speaker 5: Oh, I'll give you a quick story. He was working
Speaker 5: with the guy in Boston and I don't want to
Speaker 5: say his name, but the guy wasn't paying attention to
Speaker 5: Kevin's you know, Like Kevin threw him out of the gym. Uh, Like,
Speaker 5: literally threw him out. The guy went to the other basket.
Speaker 5: Kevin said, no, get out of the gym at last,
Speaker 5: in like two minutes, and I walked over to Kim.
Speaker 5: I said, you know, when you're working with a guy,
Speaker 5: you got to have a little more patience. He was like, no,
Speaker 5: I don't and so no, that would have been really rough.
Speaker 3: Before we let you go.
Speaker 2: We have Fritzie's impersonation of you, So we thought that
Speaker 2: Fritzie would be able to congratulate you on going into
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Fritzie, I don't want to hear that. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 5: I just want to say it's been a great run
Speaker 5: as a player, as a coach, an ambassador to the NBA.
Speaker 9: I wish you all the best.
Speaker 4: You deserve everything you get. I'm glad you going into the.
Speaker 9: Hall of My friend congratulates and you.
Speaker 4: Got to give me forty eight.
Speaker 1: You've got to give me forty eight.
Speaker 9: Who was a good cap lousion give me forty eight.
Speaker 4: You know, I need to always talk like that. Frittie.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened.
Speaker 5: Happen you see that play behind me? Yeah it didn't work.
Speaker 5: That's why I have the voice that I have.
Speaker 3: Oh that was a play you diagrammed. Last game guys running.
Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations on the hall and whatever you decide here
Speaker 2: at the end of the season.
Speaker 3: But thank you again for sharing.
Speaker 4: I appreciate good talk to you, good seeing you.
Speaker 3: Thank you about it.
Speaker 2: That's Doc Rivers Hall of Famer, and I go back
Speaker 2: to when he was playing in Atlanta with Dominique, Kevin Willis,
Speaker 2: John Contact, John Battle. They had a really good team.
Speaker 2: They just weren't good enough to beat the Celtic. Well
Speaker 2: nobody was back then, but they were fun number twenty five.
Speaker 2: But Doctor J introducing Doc Rivers.
Speaker 10: Yes, Marvin is Kevin Garnett now in that Larry Bird
Speaker 10: Michael Jordan category. We're not the same player, but everyone's
Speaker 10: got a story about him. Yeah, Yeah, that dude was nuts.
Speaker 2: But I've told this story before, and and it was
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan who said that KG was on an elevator
Speaker 2: with him and I think it was the All Star
Speaker 2: week and it was just those two and KG started
Speaker 2: yelling at him, and it's.
Speaker 3: Just those two. Now, Tim's the one who told me
Speaker 3: the story.
Speaker 2: They're on the elevator, KG is Yeah, Tim Duncan, and
Speaker 2: Tim said, I didn't say a word.
Speaker 3: We got to our floor.
Speaker 2: I walked off, He walked off, But he said that
Speaker 2: that's just Kevin he was. He was always intense, always
Speaker 2: all right. We'll get to more phone calls. It's a
Speaker 2: meet Friday. It's the final Friday for seating a lot
Speaker 2: of people want to call in. Rich Eisen got a
Speaker 2: hold of me on Tuesday and he said, I'd like
Speaker 2: to call in and say goodbye to Seaton as well.
Speaker 2: And I believe Will Ferrell would like to call in.
Speaker 2: He reached out to me yesterday he said, you got
Speaker 2: a time slot for me to say goodbye to Seat
Speaker 2: and I go, well one, So Will Ferrell's going to
Speaker 2: join us a little bit later on. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: Rich Eisen, Yeah, wow, okay, all right, you're right right
Speaker 2: day and Will yeah, and Will Ferrell yeah yeah. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you the number of people
Speaker 2: who didn't want to say goodbye to you, but these
Speaker 2: are the ones who want to say, speaking for themselves,
Speaker 2: actually yes, all right, Uh so we'll take a break.
Speaker 2: Mike McCarroll, a great baseball writer columnist, has written a
Speaker 2: book on George Steinbrenner the Yankees, and uh we'll give
Speaker 2: him the stage coming up next year, Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2: I thought Doc Rivers was pretty loose there, pretty wide open,
Speaker 2: and I said, who's going to retire first?
Speaker 3: Me or you? And he said it was going to
Speaker 3: be him.
Speaker 2: I would be surprised if he's back next year for
Speaker 2: a variety of reasons. But he did want to make
Speaker 2: sure he was on the record of saying Shams had
Speaker 2: an article that was pretty damning for the Milwaukee Bucks
Speaker 2: and for Doc losing the locker room, the Yannis situation.
Speaker 2: But he did say, you know, that's blown out of proportion,
Speaker 2: But it feels like this is it for Doc Rivers.
Speaker 2: Mike Viccero, New York Post sports columnist, and he's written
Speaker 2: another book. It's called The Bosses of the Bronx, The
Speaker 2: endless drama of the Yankees under the House of Steinbrenner
Speaker 2: and Mike joins us on the program. So what brought
Speaker 2: you to this moment where you go, you know what,
Speaker 2: I got to tell this story, you.
Speaker 12: Know what, Dad, I hear from a lot of younger
Speaker 12: generation Yankee fans who really don't didn't know George, or
Speaker 12: if they knew him, they knew the you know, kindly
Speaker 12: old man who would walk into the Yankee stadium and
Speaker 12: get ovations, and you know, they don't know and a
Speaker 12: lot of people of our generation kind of forget that,
Speaker 12: you know, ten years before that he was walking into
Speaker 12: the stadium to a lot different reaction every day he
Speaker 12: went there. And you know, it was a full complete
Speaker 12: story of who he was, who he became, the good,
Speaker 12: the bad, everything in between, the crazy, lots of crazy
Speaker 12: in there, Dan, And you know, I wanted to get
Speaker 12: that between the covers of a book, and I thought
Speaker 12: you would be a fun project. And it was a
Speaker 12: It was a blast to go back especially to the
Speaker 12: to the older George and the seventies and the eighties
Speaker 12: and just all the nuttiness and zaniness that went on
Speaker 12: under him.
Speaker 2: I was there in the early eighties, I was working
Speaker 2: at CNN in New York, and I just remember that
Speaker 2: you couldn't walk on the grass at Yankee Stadium if
Speaker 2: you're a reporter, right, you had to walk on the dirt.
Speaker 3: And I did meet with him. I didn't meet him
Speaker 3: a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Got to interview him once and I actually sent him
Speaker 2: a letter to say, hey, thank you for sitting down
Speaker 2: with me. And he said, I'm a big fan of
Speaker 2: Ted Turner, who started CNN. Anytime I can help you,
Speaker 2: you let me know. It wasn't long after that that
Speaker 2: Billy Martin got fired again, and so I had somebody
Speaker 2: help me call Steinbrenner's office. I said, Hey, it's Dan
Speaker 2: Patrick from CNN. Could you ask mister Steinbrenner if I
Speaker 2: can talk to him. I never heard back from George Steinbrenner,
Speaker 2: still waiting. He did write me a letter though at CNN.
Speaker 2: I still have it. I have it framed here. But
Speaker 2: he did write me a letter and talked about, you know,
Speaker 2: Ted Turner. So there was always this fear like he
Speaker 2: I don't know did he want people, did he want media?
Speaker 2: Did he want players to fear him?
Speaker 9: I think you liked being known the Boss.
Speaker 12: I mean, you know, even before the New York paper
Speaker 12: has figured out that the Boss was a more headline
Speaker 12: friendly word than Steinbrenner, he called himself the Boss, you know,
Speaker 12: and that drove Billy Martin crazy, and he acted it.
Speaker 9: Look, I mean, he liked being in charge of the Yankees.
Speaker 12: That's what appealed to him about, you know, being part
Speaker 12: of the group that bought the Yankees. He wanted to
Speaker 12: be the guy in New York with the Yankees, and
Speaker 12: that's what it was all about. It very imperious, very impetuous,
Speaker 12: and together those made for some pretty harrowing times for
Speaker 12: Yankees fans, you know, and certainly in the eighties when
Speaker 12: they won more games than any other team in the
Speaker 12: sport and couldn't win a championship because every now and
Speaker 12: again they go on a losing streak and George would
Speaker 12: fire somebody or he trade somebody, and that was that,
Speaker 12: you know, the Yankees themselves just to call it getting George,
Speaker 12: and that happened a lot in those years.
Speaker 3: But should he be in the whole of fame?
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 12: I for a lot of years, Dan, I thought the
Speaker 12: yantus no, because you know what, two suspensions, has probably
Speaker 12: won too many to be considered. But you know what
Speaker 12: his son Hal told me this one time. He said,
Speaker 12: you know, you can't write a history of baseball without
Speaker 12: writing a couple of chapters about my father.
Speaker 9: And he's right.
Speaker 12: And the more I considered to say, Pete Rose right,
Speaker 12: and to me, I think Pete Rose belongs in the
Speaker 12: Hall of Fame. But I think his plaque should say
Speaker 12: that had The first half should be you know, got
Speaker 12: the four thousand hits and did everything he did, and
Speaker 12: the second half should be why he got in trouble
Speaker 12: with baseball later on. And I think similarly it's important
Speaker 12: to do that with Steinbrenner because, look for better or worse,
Speaker 12: the teams that he owned won seven championships. Every other
Speaker 12: owner in the Hall combined won nine.
Speaker 9: And yeah, he was.
Speaker 12: Suspending, and I think that's worth The Baseball is a museum,
Speaker 12: you know, and it's supposed to tell the whole story
Speaker 12: of baseball, and the important figures in baseball should be
Speaker 12: on the walls there. And I do think at this
Speaker 12: point that he should get on. I don't think it's
Speaker 12: going to happen for a while. He has never really
Speaker 12: gotten any traction but I think he should.
Speaker 2: What he's called the whole of fame, and he certainly,
Speaker 2: he certainly was famous. We're talking to Mike mccaro as
Speaker 2: a new book on the Yankees and George Steinbrenner. It's
Speaker 2: The Bosses of the Bronx, The Endless Drama, The Yankees
Speaker 2: Under the House is Steinbrenner. What would you, George think
Speaker 2: of the Dodgers and their approach to today's game.
Speaker 12: It's a great question because really in his day he
Speaker 12: was the Dodgers, right. He was a one man model,
Speaker 12: as a one man corporation. Whoever he wanted to get,
Speaker 12: he would get. He didn't always overpay for them, which
Speaker 12: is interesting because he knew he had New York to sell.
Speaker 12: That's how he sold Reggie Jackson. You know, he offered
Speaker 12: two million bucks less of all teams, the expos and
Speaker 12: yet he knew that Reggie would would have the appeal
Speaker 12: of going to New York and you know, bringing a
Speaker 12: star with him. As he said, I think he would
Speaker 12: be certainly challenged by the Dodgers, by the by the
Speaker 12: Blue Jays. I mean, look by having Steve Cohen in
Speaker 12: the same town with them. I mean, it's not the
Speaker 12: same situation as the Dodgers. But he's his own one
Speaker 12: man corporation, right, his own one man, deep pocketed challenger.
Speaker 12: And look, when George was coming up and trying to
Speaker 12: establish the Yankees against the Mets, he was going up
Speaker 12: against Loreinda de Roulay, who was asking if foul balls
Speaker 12: can be brought back and washed off so they could
Speaker 12: use him tomorrow. You know, that's not what Steve Cohen does.
Speaker 12: Steve Cohen might may be the perfect donor, but he's
Speaker 12: not going to do that. And that's what Hell is
Speaker 12: going up against as supposed to to George.
Speaker 2: But I always look back and George starting the Yes
Speaker 2: Network and the value that that had. And you'll know
Speaker 2: this better than me, but it felt like he was
Speaker 2: treating his starting lineup like it was the cast of Friends.
Speaker 3: It was a TV.
Speaker 2: Show, and the amount of money that they were getting
Speaker 2: and reinvesting. I thought, you know, that was business one
Speaker 2: oh one. It was a brilliant, brilliant move.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was.
Speaker 12: And look, I mean I think of George's hard of
Speaker 12: hearts if he could have had the Yes Network and
Speaker 12: all of that represented back for the teams in the
Speaker 12: seventies because what he enjoyed about those teams is even
Speaker 12: as much as they were winning, was the fact that
Speaker 12: he had guys who would go at him, at them
Speaker 12: on the back page. I mean, you know, Reggie would
Speaker 12: fight with him, Billy would certainly fight with them. Thurman
Speaker 12: lived to fight with him. You know, all those guys
Speaker 12: lived for that stuff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 12: You fast forward to the team from the you know,
Speaker 12: from the late nineties in the early aughts. You know,
Speaker 12: no one's gonna get into a backpage fight with Bernie
Speaker 12: Williams and Andy Pennett, you know, I mean, that's just
Speaker 12: not who they were. They were just guys who won,
Speaker 12: and they weren't characters. And George George admired characters because
Speaker 12: he knew that he was his own character. He admitted
Speaker 12: he was a ham. He knew he probably got in
Speaker 12: the way too much, and he but but he enjoyed it. Look,
Speaker 12: he enjoyed being characterized on sim Seinfeld, you know, and
Speaker 12: actually got a laugh out of the fact that he
Speaker 12: got bounced the one time they asked him to be
Speaker 12: a to make a cameo. You know, Larry David just
Speaker 12: deemed him, he deemed the material unusable.
Speaker 9: He said he was he said he was a terrible actor.
Speaker 12: And I'm not exactly Olivier, but I can tell you
Speaker 12: he was a terrible actor.
Speaker 9: So he liked all of it.
Speaker 12: And then that was all the stuff that he loved
Speaker 12: about being, you know, being the owner of the Yankees,
Speaker 12: even hosting Saturday Live while he was suspended.
Speaker 9: You know, he was bad and people said that he
Speaker 9: could keep his day job, but at.
Speaker 12: That moment, he didn't have a day job, so so
Speaker 12: he did that too.
Speaker 2: The Yankees hold on this generation as opposed to previous
Speaker 2: generations as what well, I think a.
Speaker 12: Lot of his inherited. A lot of it is you know,
Speaker 12: my father, my grandfather rooted for the Yankees. So that's
Speaker 12: also what I'm going to do. And look at HAPs
Speaker 12: it helps that they win every year, win ninety five
Speaker 12: games every year. They haven't won a championship in seventeen
Speaker 12: year years, which is you know, really a problem for
Speaker 12: a lot of Yankees fans and people think they're spoiled,
Speaker 12: and maybe there's a degree of that, but look, I mean,
Speaker 12: why are they spoiled because you know, really, in the
Speaker 12: in the in the corporate mission statement, it's championship or bust,
Speaker 12: and you know, guess who invented that. That was George
Speaker 12: Steinbinner and so that was really the gift he handed
Speaker 12: to his son. I mean sometimes it's a hard gift
Speaker 12: to accept, but you know, look, I mean they still
Speaker 12: fill the ballpark. I mean, you're still gonna get a game,
Speaker 12: you know, a makeup game in July that's gonna get
Speaker 12: thirty five thousand people. And back when Don Manningly was,
Speaker 12: you know, the biggest star in New York and one
Speaker 12: of the biggest stars in New York.
Speaker 9: I mean you can still see the old.
Speaker 12: Video of how empty that place was. So it's really
Speaker 12: become a different things. A it's an everyday thing that
Speaker 12: people really care about. And that's why every time the
Speaker 12: Yankees go on a losing streak, you know, I hear
Speaker 12: from twenty five people who want, you know, managers fired
Speaker 12: and players traded because that's what George would do.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 9: They always ask what would George do? And maybe he
Speaker 9: would do that?
Speaker 12: And I say, well, maybe, you know, Aaron Moon be
Speaker 12: the manager, he'd just be on his third ten, you know.
Speaker 2: You know, so yeah, I was there twice when Billy
Speaker 2: Martin got fired.
Speaker 9: And all you to do is go every a couple
Speaker 9: of weeks.
Speaker 2: How much of a threat is Shoheo Tani to Babe
Speaker 2: Ruth's legacy in baseball history.
Speaker 12: Look, I mean he can keep pitching at this level
Speaker 12: for you know, for for five, six, seven years. I mean,
Speaker 12: I'd love to know what Babe Ruth could have done
Speaker 12: if he'd stayed with pitching, you know, if he decided
Speaker 12: to do both things. He just preferred to be a hitter,
Speaker 12: and so basically he gave up being you know, one
Speaker 12: of the best pitchers in the game and decided to
Speaker 12: go fullball bor into you know, into into hitting. If
Speaker 12: Otani can do that, to mean, that's why, you know,
Speaker 12: it's it's a it's a weird argument when you ask
Speaker 12: who's better Otani or Judge, because look, I mean, Judge
Speaker 12: is phenomenal. You can't say a bad word about his career.
Speaker 12: But you know, he hasn't struck out anybody. You know,
Speaker 12: he hasn't done that any career wins and Otani does
Speaker 12: and he does that at a high level too. It's
Speaker 12: not like he's a fantastic hitter and he's a you know,
Speaker 12: situational relief pitcher.
Speaker 9: I mean, this is a this is.
Speaker 12: An ace of a staff potential ace of a staff
Speaker 12: in addition to being you know, one of the two
Speaker 12: best hitters in baseball. So yeah, I think he's got
Speaker 12: you know, he's got some work to do and some
Speaker 12: time to do it. But you know, he doesn't see
Speaker 12: it seem to be slowing down at all.
Speaker 9: So why not.
Speaker 2: I'll leave you with this, how would George Steinbrenner do
Speaker 2: with today's sports culture, with uh, the Internet, everybody social media,
Speaker 2: with the things?
Speaker 3: You know, how he governed well?
Speaker 12: I would argue that he used the back pages against
Speaker 12: each other as an early form of social media. You know,
Speaker 12: He'd called the Deli News, then the Post have to
Speaker 12: call him back and they and he'd be in the
Speaker 12: news for a week.
Speaker 9: At a time.
Speaker 12: You know, his his son talks about how you know,
Speaker 12: he gets mad watching the Yankees lose thoes a shoot
Speaker 12: at the TV, and.
Speaker 9: His father would do the same thing.
Speaker 12: Only the difference was, you know, he'd call the Deli
Speaker 12: News and the Post and say, guess what I just did.
Speaker 12: I just got shot and that's three days, that's been
Speaker 12: days the headlines and now he wouldn't have to worry
Speaker 12: about doing that.
Speaker 9: He just go on his phone and do that.
Speaker 12: I believe me, I guarantee you that they'd have to
Speaker 12: find hide the old man's phone every now and again
Speaker 12: because he'd be on Twitter and all the other social
Speaker 12: media's X and everything, you know, all the time.
Speaker 9: I have no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on the book. Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it.
Speaker 9: Mike, Thank you, Dan, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: That's Mike McCarroll, New York Post sports columnists. The book
Speaker 2: is The Bosses of the Bronx, The endless drama of
Speaker 2: the Yankees under the House of Steinbrenner. I hated the
Speaker 2: Yankees only because of George Steinbrenner and their front office
Speaker 2: in the PR department. But they were doing their job,
Speaker 2: like I think, they worked in fear, lived in fear.
Speaker 2: But I remember the first time I got to Yankee
Speaker 2: Stadium and I was walking around the batting cage and
Speaker 2: next thing I know, security guy comes up and he says, hey,
Speaker 2: get off the grass, and like, I'm half on the
Speaker 2: grass and half on the dirt around the batting cage
Speaker 2: and there was somebody up behind home plate during batting
Speaker 2: practice and they were just looking to see if you
Speaker 2: were Everybody had to kind of walk in a line.
Speaker 2: You couldn't be out on the grass, you know, if
Speaker 2: a ballplayer was out there, you couldn't go out there
Speaker 2: and say, hey, can I get five minutes?
Speaker 3: Can I talk to you?
Speaker 5: Do?
Speaker 2: You had to wait until they came by. You're standing
Speaker 2: there on the dirt waiting to talk to somebody.
Speaker 13: Yeah, PAULI, when I was a kid, he was the
Speaker 13: first owner whose name I knew outside of the town
Speaker 13: I lived in, the first kind of celebrity owner where
Speaker 13: you like, there was drama and coverage.
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
Speaker 13: Maybe Al Davis of the Raiders may have been second,
Speaker 13: but back then you didn't know ownership, and they weren't
Speaker 13: characters or players in the soap opera.
Speaker 2: He wanted to be famous, he wanted to be known.
Speaker 2: He wanted you to know that he was running the Yankees.
Speaker 2: He was the boss. But still he created a sports
Speaker 2: network and that was different than anybody else, the Yes Network,
Speaker 2: and then that kind of paved the way for, you know,
Speaker 2: other teams to have their own sports network and to
Speaker 2: spend that money. You know, he would get players. The
Speaker 2: difference is the Yankees would would get players, draft players,
Speaker 2: and then they would re sign them. They didn't lose
Speaker 2: them like the Pirates, you know, the Pirates, you know,
Speaker 2: lose players or some.
Speaker 3: Of these other smaller markets.
Speaker 2: The Yankees would be like, all right, we draft Bernie
Speaker 2: Williams had fifteen, or we're bringing up Jeter, We're bringing
Speaker 2: up Posada. Instead of losing them when they get to
Speaker 2: that point where they're going to make good money, the
Speaker 2: Yankees were able to keep them in house and reinvest
Speaker 2: that money. Alrighty coming up? Who had the best week
Speaker 2: in sports? Rich Eisen will join us. I think Will
Speaker 2: Ferrell wants to call in as well. In the final
Speaker 2: hour of the program, Ken in Vegas joins us, Morning, Ken,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 14: AVP?
Speaker 9: How you doing good?
Speaker 3: Sir good.
Speaker 14: I'm lying here in bed and covering from reconstructive back surgery.
Speaker 14: The doctor called it the Fritty special. I went from
Speaker 14: seven foot to five eight. So three things. First off,
Speaker 14: seeing it's been a wilder advand thanks for giving us
Speaker 14: listens a Glenson's part of your life in moral words
Speaker 14: of Johnny Utah from point break, whyakn'ia?
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Ken, that's awesome. Cody in Texas's not
Speaker 3: coming back. Cody in Texas.
Speaker 7: Hey, Dan just wanted to call in and you know,
Speaker 7: tell Seaton appreciate him. I was trying to think of
Speaker 7: my favorite Seaton story that actually happened yesterday when James
Speaker 7: and Jacksonville called in again and Seaton told him that
Speaker 7: he's still a bad person. I was in tears for that.
Speaker 7: But man, I mean, Seaton, thank you for everything. Man,
Speaker 7: been listening to the show since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 7: They've grown up with you.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 7: Got a chance to meet you in Houston in Vegas
Speaker 7: for both Super Bowls. Just wanted to tell you, man,
Speaker 7: you know, congratulations on moving on. And man, there's probably
Speaker 7: gonna be a little dusty next hour.
Speaker 3: That man, God, thank you, Cody, James and Virginia.
Speaker 15: Oh, thank you taking my call.
Speaker 6: Brother.
Speaker 15: I have to Friday DP done it. So look the
Speaker 15: commanders big time all the time. Every time you take
Speaker 15: a breath of can imitate the never duplotat it? You
Speaker 15: can only hope the contain them. You can't stop him.
Speaker 15: You can only hope to contain them. Listen, that's questionable.
Speaker 15: But then again, aren't we all hailing from parts unknown?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 15: Unknown? Wait unknown? He's been playgo in a cheating Oh come.
Speaker 3: On, thank you, thank you, James, thank you lot going
Speaker 3: on there? Yeah, yeah, going on.
Speaker 2: I wanted to come out in the cape. Yeah after that,
Speaker 2: like James Brown, watch it. So yeah, how about we
Speaker 2: take a break. More phone calls coming up. Who had
Speaker 2: the best week in sports? We'll discuss that on this
Speaker 2: Meet Friday after this.
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Speaker 3: The like Cherry.
Speaker 16: On top of that self awareness Sunday was him eating
Speaker 16: my lunch right in front of me, and that's okay, Tod,
Speaker 16: just go, hey, meet my lunch.
Speaker 1: I tried to put it back.
Speaker 3: If you're taking a few bites.
Speaker 9: He didn't want to fire around.
Speaker 17: I said, all I'll say to you the Christ, what
Speaker 17: how do I make this better?
Speaker 3: You just made it seem like, hey, but that's good
Speaker 3: for everybody. It's community.
Speaker 4: Didn't ask, didn't want to make sure.
Speaker 17: I'm like, all right, pizza if everybody just happened to
Speaker 17: put it by Seten's desk.
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Speaker 2: week in sports? Tod who had the best week in sports?
Speaker 17: I'm giving it to rookie shortstop Connor Griffin.
Speaker 3: Why you ask, or maybe not asking? That's a nine
Speaker 3: year extension from.
Speaker 17: The Pirates, reportedly worth one hundred and forty million, and
Speaker 17: gets a passive aggressive vote of support from their ast
Speaker 17: Paul Schemes, who said to about Connor, he will be
Speaker 17: the face of the Pirates for a long time. I
Speaker 17: love the passive gause. I'm not going to be here,
Speaker 17: so he'll know the face of the Pirates for a
Speaker 17: long time, as supposed to me.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: If I'm a Pirate fan, I go, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: what did he say?
Speaker 2: Skemes is saying, by the way, did you look on
Speaker 2: Fritzy's computer or Pauli's computer screen?
Speaker 3: I did not. It's on his computer score bards. I'm
Speaker 3: now I'm still in his last week at sports.
Speaker 2: So all right, PAULI, you're gonna have to adjust your
Speaker 2: best week in school? All right, satan who had the
Speaker 2: best week in sports?
Speaker 16: You know it selfishly, I'm just gonna say me because
Speaker 16: this week has been awesome, so I appreciate everything you
Speaker 16: guys have put together. The worst week in sports. This
Speaker 16: is my last one, if you'll indulge me for a second.
Speaker 16: It is a terrible story. There's a kid named Patrick
Speaker 16: ajimong Oh. He's from East Hartford, Connecticut. He's like become
Speaker 16: a local hero. He was a D three soccer player,
Speaker 16: played his way into D one where he played at
Speaker 16: Rhode Island, absolutely killed it. Then he was drafted into
Speaker 16: MLS by Charlotte, absolutely crushing there. Was called into the
Speaker 16: national team, which is a really really big deal. Really
Speaker 16: shined there, absolutely rushing it. Then was bought by Derby
Speaker 16: County is overplaying in the English Championship with his second
Speaker 16: tier and it was absolutely phenomenal there. And he was
Speaker 16: a sure thing to be called into the World Cup
Speaker 16: team for the US men's national team and he just
Speaker 16: tore his achilles and it is just.
Speaker 15: Man.
Speaker 16: You know, sometimes sports can be so cruel, you know,
Speaker 16: it can really just be just the cruelest thing to
Speaker 16: have happened. But you only get you know, some people
Speaker 16: only this is our only chance in their lifetime is
Speaker 16: to play in the World Cup in this one shot.
Speaker 16: And I hope that's not the case for Patrick, But
Speaker 16: just a devastating injury and a really unfortunate part of
Speaker 16: what has been just one of the best stories in
Speaker 16: certainly in US soccer, no.
Speaker 3: Question, Marvin best week in sports.
Speaker 10: Dusty may Head coaching the Michigan Wolverines winning a national
Speaker 10: title in only his second season in ann Arbor.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Paulie, I gotta start going first just once.
Speaker 13: I'm gonna go with the Big Ten Conference. Boy, are
Speaker 13: they on a nice run perception wise, even though they
Speaker 13: didn't win last night with hockey, but the basketball, the football,
Speaker 13: and they're great storylines too. Michigan basketball is fresh, Indiana
Speaker 13: football is fresh. Great three or five months for the
Speaker 13: Big Ten.
Speaker 3: Well, UCLA part of the Big Ten. Too interesting yet.
Speaker 3: Moe in Arizona, Hi Mo, welcome back. What do you have?
Speaker 4: Good morning?
Speaker 6: Dan Dennett's man. Shout out to Seton and don't miss
Speaker 6: you have to endeavors. You kind of remind me of
Speaker 6: the guy when you know you watch the kid get
Speaker 6: drafted and watch his whole career and then he moves On.
Speaker 6: You know something better, So just shout out to you man.
Speaker 6: Good for you, proud of you. We'll mess you, brother.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Moe. Austin in Virginia.
Speaker 18: Hi Austin, say Dan, I've been meeting a call for
Speaker 18: a while now to start campaigning for the official return
Speaker 18: of Flinchball before you guys retire. But today is all
Speaker 18: about Seton and I agree with the sentiment from all
Speaker 18: the other callers, but I do just want to add
Speaker 18: real quick that I was lucky enough to come at
Speaker 18: the Man Cave a few years ago, and I still
Speaker 18: remember that the only reason Seton was there that day
Speaker 18: was because he had left his family traveling somewhere in
Speaker 18: Europe and come back a week early to be back
Speaker 18: for the show for that week. It just really meant
Speaker 18: a lot to me getting to meet him that day.
Speaker 18: He was so gracious for this time and nice and considerate.
Speaker 18: I'm super excited to see what this next chapter has
Speaker 18: to bring, but most importantly, thank you for allowing me
Speaker 18: to finally meet it again. When I say, suck it
Speaker 18: back row.
Speaker 3: All right, Austin, Thank you. Thank you. Zach and Knoxville
Speaker 3: by Zach. What's on your mind today? ADP? Thanks for
Speaker 3: taking my call.
Speaker 19: Y'all missed a perfect opportunity to have bear clause for
Speaker 19: breakfast in memory of seating Jack Gannet Anne, and I
Speaker 19: just want to ask him if if he could do
Speaker 19: a bomb off into the sunset, not a walk off Bomber.
Speaker 8: Just yeah, that's the perfect thing to do.
Speaker 16: Well, it is request day. They you know, they were
Speaker 16: just in the in the break on TV. They're running
Speaker 16: like all these videos and stuff, and they had one
Speaker 16: of us in Los Angeles and Doc Rivers was in
Speaker 16: studio and I didn't get to see what the clip was,
Speaker 16: but I looked up and I saw Doc cracking up,
Speaker 16: and I saw me clearly doing a Steve Bomber impression.
Speaker 16: They're like, oh god, I did that in front of
Speaker 16: Doc Rivers.
Speaker 2: Oh that made it even better because Doc can't laugh
Speaker 2: at his owner at the time, but he's like, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, right, okay, Tie in Syracuse, Hi, Ty, what's
Speaker 2: on your mind today?
Speaker 4: Hey DZ.
Speaker 8: Glad to be back on. Thanks you for taking my call.
Speaker 8: Just wanted to say a I started watching the show
Speaker 8: when I was a young lad seeting. I thought the
Speaker 8: world of you. I thought you were the man I
Speaker 8: wanted to grow up to be just like you. I
Speaker 8: can say now that I'm in my early thirties, I'm
Speaker 8: a little bit chubby, I'm balding. I have ib asked
Speaker 8: wind up going up to be DoD what I just
Speaker 8: want to wish you about in this new endeavor.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, ty Wow, complimenting seat and while
Speaker 2: taking a shot at Frenzy.
Speaker 17: I was very well done by him and very accurate.
Speaker 10: If that's what.
Speaker 17: If he's describing himself and half as accurate as he has,
Speaker 17: that's he's got this to look forward to.
Speaker 3: What did he say, chubby balding and as ibs.
Speaker 4: I had ib D, I wish I had IBS. The
Speaker 4: syndrome you can get past.
Speaker 9: The disease part is a little tougher, but good for him.
Speaker 3: Would jump date the poll results seating.
Speaker 16: H Yeah, that's funny, man, that's a tough Let's see
Speaker 16: we have up there who should be the NBA Rookie
Speaker 16: of the Year right now. Cooper Flag has about sixty
Speaker 16: nine percent of that boat.
Speaker 3: Okay, I thought Doc Rivers made a great case. He did.
Speaker 3: He did.
Speaker 2: He opened my eyes to like what Conker nipples meant
Speaker 2: to the culture of the hornets.
Speaker 3: Okay, uh, the other pole question. Uh, that's the only one. Oh,
Speaker 3: that's the only one.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I decided to go against the uh uh the
Speaker 16: part three.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I wasn't bothered by it, but when somebody
Speaker 2: brought it up to me, I'm like, Okay, Jason Kelsey
Speaker 2: was there. Okay, final hour, the final, the last hour.
Speaker 2: This is it, final hour of Seaton O'Connor as a
Speaker 2: dan Ette.
Speaker 3: Have that for you right after this