WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Doc Rivers, Mike Vaccaro 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.560 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.440 Sports Radio. 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.600 Made it to a Friday Meet Friday, the final Friday 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:11.160 for Seaton o'connery in the building. Your phone calls always welcome. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.800 Eight seven to seven three DP Show Email address Dpatdanpatrick 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.960 dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. We let Seaton 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.640 pick the menu for Meet Friday, and he chose some 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:25.200 of our favorites. I love my Kumamoto oysters with a 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:30.280 little pesto, mignette, pigs in a blanket for Fritzy, blt 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.760 with no tea for Paulie, Shirley Temples, smoked Shirley Temples 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:37.440 for Marvin, and Seaton said he would like to have 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:41.760 the Chipwitch sandwiches as well. All right, eight seven to 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.200 seven three DP Show, and we'll get to your phone calls. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.200 Tyler sitting by to take those phone calls. We'll talk 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.240 to Rich Eisen a little bit later on as well. 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.680 Say good morning to those watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.920 also NBC Sports Network. I mentioned towards the end of 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.680 last hour, still don't know when the super Bowl is 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.120 going b but that does affect me because I'm retiring 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.640 at the super Bowl. I just had a source with 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.280 the NFL say Commissioner Goodell's goal has always been to 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:12.160 have the game moved to the day before President's Day. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.919 President's Day in twenty twenty eight will be Monday, February 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.520 twenty first. I believe they will have the Super Bowl 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.600 on February twentieth and start a week earlier on the 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:28.280 front end in late August early September. Nothing official, that's 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:33.360 just from a source. We'll talk to Mike McCarroll. He's 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.800 written a book about George Steinbrenner and the Yankees. He'll 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.759 join us coming up a little bit later on this hour. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.160 We make way for the Hall of Famer Doc Rivers, 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.800 the Milwaukee Bucks head coach whose attention is not on 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:45.840 me in this show. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:47.640 It's on watching The Masters. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:47.800 There. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.840 I see what you're doing. You're watching the Masters, aren't you? 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:52.000 I sure? 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.320 Am? You know that the Master's app is on right now, 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:57.880 so I'm watching the feature groups. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.120 Dan, Dan, I'm talking to you in a while. You know, 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:03.280 what's going on with you? 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.440 I kind of status quo, just you know, kind of 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:08.840 running out playing out the string here, you know, just 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:10.400 the last couple of years. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:11.440 When are you retiring? 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.000 Playing out the string here last? 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:17.920 Okay, who retires? First? Doc? 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.280 Oh man, I got a fill in? What did you say? 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.639 Twenty eight, twenty. 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:28.200 Twenty eight February of twenty twenty eight. Well, you still 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:29.360 be coaching in the NBA. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.919 I think there's a very good chance I'm going to 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:32.359 beat you. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:32.960 Yeah. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.120 Yeah, we'll meet afterwards to have a drink somewhere. 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:37.840 Is this year last season? 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:38.840 I don't know. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:43.880 I don't know that, but you know, I'm leaning a 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.240 lot of different ways, you know, so I don't want 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:47.400 to commit to anything. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:47.919 I don't. 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.960 You know, Dan, it's so tough and you probably have 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.440 dealt with this. The word retirement means you don't work 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.000 at all, and I don't think I'm gonna do that. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.880 I would drive people nuts if I was at home 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:02.400 every day. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.200 Are you still having fun? This has been a pretty tough, 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:06.880 trying year. 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.160 But yeah, this has been a rough year. 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.120 Nothing like you know, if you if you read Cham's 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.399 article the other day, that that article was so far 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:21.160 off base that it was nowhere near like as hectic 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.960 or what where toxic situation as it as it looks. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.800 But it's still losing, Dan, You know, this is my 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.920 first losing season in twenty seasons. That's the hell of 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:36.240 a run. Losing is no fun for anyone. And then 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.280 the Yannis situation has been really rough for everyone, including 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.760 the honest. So this has not been a fun year. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.000 But every year is not gonna be fun. Then you 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.080 don't have great years every year, and you just deal 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:47.400 with it. 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:48.600 So I look at it. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.360 I put it in that compartment and not nearly as 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.720 bad as made look on the outside. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.320 What does Giannis want? 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:57.880 Boy? 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:04.400 I don't know, uh, And we talk probably more than anyone, 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.880 you know, Dan. It's a tough one because he has 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:11.120 done such a great job here in Milwaukee, right, and 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.520 yet he still wants to win a title, and clearly 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.479 we have to do a better job here with our 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:20.360 roster to make that even look like a possibility. And 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:24.000 if we can't do that, uh, then he's gonna look outward. 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:28.200 And so I think that's a twofold answer. I think one. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.880 If we had all the pieces here, I have no 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.960 doubt he'd want to stay here, But we don't, and 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.480 so that puts him in a tough spot. 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.400 What say do you have in this? 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.600 Not a lot just with him trying to guide him, 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:47.200 you know, Uh, we talk a lot about it. I 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:47.800 can tell you that. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.640 And why is these last couple he wanted to play? Correct? 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:53.440 Is he he. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:54.520 Wanted to play? 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:58.600 He just hasn't been cleared, you know. And so that's 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.880 another one where I'm kind of caught the metal. I think, yeah, 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.800 this was a playoff game, you would play them. But 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.640 if it wasn't a playoff game, there's no way you 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.880 would play them. I think that would be the correct answer. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.240 Talking to Doc Rivers, Hall of Famer, and uh, watching 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.719 the Masters here, have you played Augusta? 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:15.640 Yeah? 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:16.039 I have. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:17.560 Who'd you play? 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.040 Didn't play it? But Jimmy Dunn who was a great guy, 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:22.200 and then two other friends. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:27.440 Uh, I had a great time, played miserably. You know, Dan, 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.120 I've been in finals. I've been I've been in so 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:32.760 many prestious situations. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.120 How nervous were you? 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.240 Oh? I got to tell you in the first tea box. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.560 I think it was kind of Lisa Rice. I want 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.880 to say Peyton Manning of all people were coming out 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.640 and they were you know Peyton, you know, and it 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.440 was hard for me to put the thing back, Like 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:52.400 I'm sitting there likes it's just a golf course, but 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.080 it's not just the golf course it is. 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.160 It's one amazing place you So, yeah, I was a 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:57.880 little nervous. 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:03.960 I got traded on the first t by my caddy. No, yes, 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.919 like they were betting on us. And my caddy caddied 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.360 for Sevy when he won in nineteen eighty and I 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.080 just remember they swapped bags after my t shot and 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.160 I said, what happened, and the caddie goes, you just 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.320 got traded on the first team. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.840 Well, I can tell you my caddy took a big 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.960 loss because I hit a huge drive on one, so 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.360 I did. I ripped it and I saw my caddie 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.360 give two people high five. That was the only big 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:33.880 shot I hit. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.719 How did you find out about the Hall of Fame. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.360 I'm sitting exactly where I was sitting, as a matter 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.120 of fact, and I get a call from the Hall. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:46.040 It's funny. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.560 I have my phone block, which I learned to non 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.120 numbers that aren't stored, and so I didn't answer the 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.880 phone then, you know, which was hilarious, And I get 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.440 a text, Hey, Doc, this is Sessions us from a 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.640 whole Well, we really need you to answer the phone. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.520 So I was in the doghouse before I got in 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:10.440 the house, you know, and it's a great call day. 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.840 I gotta tell you it's you know, it's funny. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:15.840 I get the call and they said, Doc, you're in 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:20.240 the hall, and I did, it's not something you worked for, 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:21.800 Like you don't work to be in the hall. At 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.239 least I can tell you I've worked because I love coaching. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.360 I love whatever else comes with it. But when I 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.160 called my brother and he answered the phone and I 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.960 told him he was golfing, which pissed me off, and 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.480 he just start crying. And it was like the most 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.040 emotional thing because my parents are no longer with us, 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.320 and he just said my two parents' names and start bawling. 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:46.000 Uh. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:47.520 He walked away from the phone. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.320 Another guy pitched the phone up who I still don't 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.280 know who that was. And the guy says, hey, Doc, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:54.280 is everything okay? 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:55.720 Uh? 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.640 And I said, yes, things are good. I'm in the 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.400 Hall of Fame. So he start whoever the guy was 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:03.760 start celebrating to me. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.360 Uh. So that was my first five minutes in the hall. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:08.120 It was pretty cool. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.800 Now you have your nickname after doctor J. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:13.600 Yeah. 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.680 Could doctor J be part of the induction ceremony. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:18.920 That's not a bad call. 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:22.680 It could be there's other names to uh, you know, 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:27.040 pat Riley, Kevin Garnett. So it's so funny, Dan, this 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.040 are the other things I don't. I've never been in 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.760 the hall, so I've had twenty people ask me what 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.240 you're asking me. Who's gonna introduce me? Uh, there's a 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:37.000 lot of guys. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:37.440 You know. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.400 One thing you know with your success, you don't you 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.440 don't reach success without a lot of people helping you. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:43.160 Uh. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.200 It's really you and a whole team that people don't know. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.440 And so anybody I asked would be someone who helped me. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.800 Pat Riley was instrumental in me coaching. Kevin Garnett is 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.160 instrumental me getting my success. Wayne Hembry probably is the 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.400 most important person in my life. Uh, just because he 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.520 was guiding me even in college. So there's a lot 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:04.280 of people. 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:05.960 I've been talking about. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.640 The Rookie of the Year with Konk Nipple is favored 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.400 over Cooper flag. Just to give you my opinion, I 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.440 don't think this should be close. I think what Cooper 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.960 Flagg is doing at nineteen as the guy night in 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.560 and night out as imposed to Cannipple, who's the third 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.640 option for a playoff team, wonderful year. But Cooper Flag's 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.560 nineteen years of age doing some things that we haven't 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.280 seen since Lebron. Your thoughts on who should be the 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:32.320 Rookie of the year, I. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.760 Tell you, I do think it's close, and I've gone 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:39.439 back and forth on it because it's this year probably 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.920 more than any year than I can remember. It's probably 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.680 it's almost two categories. Cooper Flag's numbers just scream at you. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:54.640 They really do. Scoring forty, scored fifty, being the point guard, playing. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.760 A position that he's never played before. Hell that night, 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.400 and and the. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.959 Featured guy each night, Like when you play Dallas, you're 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:03.080 preparing for Cooper Flag. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.320 But what what con. 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:11.439 Has done is, in my opinion, he's changed the the 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:16.760 culture of an organization that has had cultural problems with 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:22.439 his which his approach, you know, his his play is tough. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.880 He's a tough he's a two way player. I've never 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.520 seen a rookie have an impact on a team as 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.839 much as he has had, and there's something to be 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.199 said about that as well. And the reason he doesn't 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.920 have the numbers is because he is on a good team, 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.680 you know. So he's sharing the ball with LaMelo Ball 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.480 and Bridges and everybody else. 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:50.560 You think he could be a featured guy and score again. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.120 I think he can score more points if he is 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.560 on a team was worse. But he's such a team player, 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.120 he's such a leader, and I do think from a 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:03.920 coaching stand point that that means a lot. But you're right, 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.320 it's it's it's a tough I wish this is the 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:10.560 one year. I would be fine if they had co MVPs. Yeah, 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.040 but if you just go on numbers, which is what 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.559 you're supposed to do, You're right, it's Cooper flag. If 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.679 you're going impact, it's con And that's how I look 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:20.960 at it. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:26.120 Uh, have you had anybody match Kevin Garnet's intensity in 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:27.560 your career? No? 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.079 Yeah, I would say intensity. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:34.200 Yet I've had some guys, you know, Patrick Beverley was nuts. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:38.880 Yeah, so so I would throw him out there or 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:39.640 bad nuts. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.520 It depends on the game, you know. 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.679 I joke one night I was very upset at the 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.760 way Patrick played and uh Pet played and I told him, 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.880 I said, I'm gonna put you on the all Scared 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.199 team And he's like, what's that? 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.719 You scared me? Just scare them? 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.920 And I said, I don't know. Which way to go 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.680 every time I put you in. But that was so 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.560 dain competitive man like he you know, it's funny. He 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.760 was a good defender, but he was a great defender 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.280 because he scared the hell out of the guy who 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:10.200 was garden every night. 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:10.800 Uh. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.600 And Kevin KG had a lot of that. What I've 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.880 never had with Kevin. I've never had a leader like 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:22.680 Kevin ever. Like Kevin cleaned up the locker room for 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:27.760 me every single day. If shoot rounds are bad, Kevin 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:28.319 patrolled it. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:29.000 Uh. 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.400 I mean, when you've got something like that on your team, 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.760 it makes coaching a whole lot easier. 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:35.720 How would he have been as a coach? 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:42.280 Oh, I'll give you a quick story. He was working 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.559 with the guy in Boston and I don't want to 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.280 say his name, but the guy wasn't paying attention to 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:56.800 Kevin's you know, Like Kevin threw him out of the gym. Uh, Like, 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.240 literally threw him out. The guy went to the other basket. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:03.520 Kevin said, no, get out of the gym at last, 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.840 in like two minutes, and I walked over to Kim. 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.719 I said, you know, when you're working with a guy, 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:12.360 you got to have a little more patience. He was like, no, 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:16.320 I don't and so no, that would have been really rough. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.120 Before we let you go. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.880 We have Fritzie's impersonation of you, So we thought that 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.840 Fritzie would be able to congratulate you on going into 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:25.400 the Hall of Fame. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.840 Fritzie, I don't want to hear that. Okay, here we go. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:29.800 I just want to say it's been a great run 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.640 as a player, as a coach, an ambassador to the NBA. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:35.040 I wish you all the best. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.719 You deserve everything you get. I'm glad you going into the. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.160 Hall of My friend congratulates and you. 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:40.240 Got to give me forty eight. 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:41.520 You've got to give me forty eight. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.920 Who was a good cap lousion give me forty eight. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.679 You know, I need to always talk like that. Frittie. 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:48.560 I don't know what happened. 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.640 Happen you see that play behind me? Yeah it didn't work. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.559 That's why I have the voice that I have. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:02.080 Oh that was a play you diagrammed. Last game guys running. 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:10.520 Yeah, congratulations on the hall and whatever you decide here 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:11.720 at the end of the season. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.400 But thank you again for sharing. 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:15.959 I appreciate good talk to you, good seeing you. 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:16.760 Thank you about it. 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:23.840 That's Doc Rivers Hall of Famer, and I go back 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:29.000 to when he was playing in Atlanta with Dominique, Kevin Willis, 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:34.680 John Contact, John Battle. They had a really good team. 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.640 They just weren't good enough to beat the Celtic. Well 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:42.360 nobody was back then, but they were fun number twenty five. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.360 But Doctor J introducing Doc Rivers. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.640 Yes, Marvin is Kevin Garnett now in that Larry Bird 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.240 Michael Jordan category. We're not the same player, but everyone's 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:57.200 got a story about him. Yeah, Yeah, that dude was nuts. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.920 But I've told this story before, and and it was 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:05.040 Tim Duncan who said that KG was on an elevator 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:06.760 with him and I think it was the All Star 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.480 week and it was just those two and KG started 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:14.080 yelling at him, and it's. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.840 Just those two. Now, Tim's the one who told me 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:16.280 the story. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:20.720 They're on the elevator, KG is Yeah, Tim Duncan, and 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.240 Tim said, I didn't say a word. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:24.800 We got to our floor. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.240 I walked off, He walked off, But he said that 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:33.720 that's just Kevin he was. He was always intense, always 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.360 all right. We'll get to more phone calls. It's a 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.000 meet Friday. It's the final Friday for seating a lot 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.360 of people want to call in. Rich Eisen got a 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.760 hold of me on Tuesday and he said, I'd like 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.640 to call in and say goodbye to Seaton as well. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.960 And I believe Will Ferrell would like to call in. 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.360 He reached out to me yesterday he said, you got 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.560 a time slot for me to say goodbye to Seat 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.920 and I go, well one, So Will Ferrell's going to 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.040 join us a little bit later on. Yeah, I know, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:12.320 Rich Eisen, Yeah, wow, okay, all right, you're right right 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:19.520 day and Will yeah, and Will Ferrell yeah yeah. I mean, 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.040 I'm not going to tell you the number of people 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.200 who didn't want to say goodbye to you, but these 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.680 are the ones who want to say, speaking for themselves, 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:30.480 actually yes, all right, Uh so we'll take a break. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.960 Mike McCarroll, a great baseball writer columnist, has written a 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.520 book on George Steinbrenner the Yankees, and uh we'll give 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.120 him the stage coming up next year, Dan Patrick Show. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.840 Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.560 Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.960 on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio w APP. Fox 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.280 Sports Radio is taking over YouTube and you can be 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.680 a part of it. 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And he said it was going to 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:31.359 be him. 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.879 I would be surprised if he's back next year for 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:35.800 a variety of reasons. But he did want to make 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.480 sure he was on the record of saying Shams had 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.800 an article that was pretty damning for the Milwaukee Bucks 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:47.000 and for Doc losing the locker room, the Yannis situation. 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.360 But he did say, you know, that's blown out of proportion, 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.159 But it feels like this is it for Doc Rivers. 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.080 Mike Viccero, New York Post sports columnist, and he's written 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.240 another book. It's called The Bosses of the Bronx, The 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.040 endless drama of the Yankees under the House of Steinbrenner 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.840 and Mike joins us on the program. So what brought 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.480 you to this moment where you go, you know what, 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.320 I got to tell this story, you. 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:13.800 Know what, Dad, I hear from a lot of younger 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.960 generation Yankee fans who really don't didn't know George, or 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.840 if they knew him, they knew the you know, kindly 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.240 old man who would walk into the Yankee stadium and 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.399 get ovations, and you know, they don't know and a 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.560 lot of people of our generation kind of forget that, 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.200 you know, ten years before that he was walking into 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.439 the stadium to a lot different reaction every day he 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.080 went there. And you know, it was a full complete 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.080 story of who he was, who he became, the good, 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.960 the bad, everything in between, the crazy, lots of crazy 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.320 in there, Dan, And you know, I wanted to get 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.119 that between the covers of a book, and I thought 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:45.159 you would be a fun project. And it was a 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.159 It was a blast to go back especially to the 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.560 to the older George and the seventies and the eighties 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.639 and just all the nuttiness and zaniness that went on 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:52.160 under him. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.480 I was there in the early eighties, I was working 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.840 at CNN in New York, and I just remember that 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.439 you couldn't walk on the grass at Yankee Stadium if 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.880 you're a reporter, right, you had to walk on the dirt. 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.600 And I did meet with him. I didn't meet him 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:08.359 a couple of times. 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.239 Got to interview him once and I actually sent him 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.680 a letter to say, hey, thank you for sitting down 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.879 with me. And he said, I'm a big fan of 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.840 Ted Turner, who started CNN. Anytime I can help you, 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.320 you let me know. It wasn't long after that that 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:27.159 Billy Martin got fired again, and so I had somebody 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.000 help me call Steinbrenner's office. I said, Hey, it's Dan 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.440 Patrick from CNN. Could you ask mister Steinbrenner if I 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.520 can talk to him. I never heard back from George Steinbrenner, 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.120 still waiting. He did write me a letter though at CNN. 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.480 I still have it. I have it framed here. But 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.639 he did write me a letter and talked about, you know, 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:51.679