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Speaker 1: is back this weekend, Week twelve of the NFL season,
Speaker 1: Jets Panthers e a before we dive in here, how
Speaker 1: are you feeling refreshed? I was gonna ask how your
Speaker 1: bye week is going. By bye week is over, I'm
Speaker 1: ready for football. It's the Thanksgiving season gold adages. Teams
Speaker 1: start separating themselves after Thanksgiving. With that being said, the
Speaker 1: Jets are four and six right now. Green's they think
Speaker 1: they let a couple of games slip away over those
Speaker 1: first time. Namely, you think about the Miami the fourteen
Speaker 1: point lead against the Dolphins. You think about a game
Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay and on it was sitting right there
Speaker 1: for you and you couldn't manufacture anything offensively. With all
Speaker 1: that being said, you look at the a f C.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking playoffs. I'm just talking about positioning. The
Speaker 1: Jets are with a large group of teams, so it's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see the way they finish. Very
Speaker 1: important too, game homestand here with Carolina coming in with
Speaker 1: a seven and three record. They have a lot of
Speaker 1: confidence in Kansas City, a team that started off so
Speaker 1: hot out of the gates with a five and zero record,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they've lost four or five and
Speaker 1: they're six and four. The final wild card in the
Speaker 1: a f C will be a team with an eight
Speaker 1: and eight record. Okay, that's a that's a take from that.
Speaker 1: I think it's very feasible, and I think you're right.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because you look at when the Jets
Speaker 1: finished ten and six, couldn't make it in the playoffs
Speaker 1: with a record that in most years would, and now
Speaker 1: you know nine and seven could get you in. So
Speaker 1: you know, every year in the NFL is different. It's
Speaker 1: funny how things play out. But this weekend is a
Speaker 1: big test, especially against a tremendous defense. The Panthers were
Speaker 1: the top defense for the majority of the season, and
Speaker 1: then this past week they got bumped by the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: So now the Panthers are number two in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned Jacksonville because I think this team
Speaker 1: has similar traits to Jacksonville. A big difference, though, is
Speaker 1: they have Cam Newton at quarterback. The Jags have Blake Bortles.
Speaker 1: The Jets largely did a very good job against the
Speaker 1: Jaguars run game. Carolina has not been able to run
Speaker 1: it well throughout the season. I believe they're leading rushers
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart, but Cam Newton in terms of yards per
Speaker 1: carry and touchdowns on the ground. Of course he's leading
Speaker 1: that group. Where Carolina can get you is Cam getting
Speaker 1: out of pressure, escape and pressure. And also he's got
Speaker 1: some new targets out of the backfield uh N Ely,
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey and Davan Funcious is now his number one
Speaker 1: target on the outside. And we'll have to see Greens.
Speaker 1: Maybe they get a big boost from one of the
Speaker 1: finer tightenns of football, Greg Olsen. Will to see if
Speaker 1: he's ready to play. Cam Newton averaging about six yards
Speaker 1: on the ground, and he's second on the team seventy
Speaker 1: four carries four hundred thirty six yards, but leads the
Speaker 1: team with four rushing touches. This defense is solid all
Speaker 1: the way through, you know. And we can talk about
Speaker 1: personnel with Joe Person here, like I set that up.
Speaker 1: Joe Person who covers the Panthers from the Charlotte observer,
Speaker 1: does a great job down there on the beat. But
Speaker 1: this Carolina defense is suffocating. They are tenacious, they get
Speaker 1: after you, and the Jets offense is gonna have to
Speaker 1: come up with a good game plan from John Morton,
Speaker 1: who has done that throughout the season, and you gotta
Speaker 1: be patient against this Carolina defense. The one number that
Speaker 1: stood out to me while looking at this game early on,
Speaker 1: Carolina doesn't turn people over and in fact their minus
Speaker 1: in the turnover differential category. For the Jets to win
Speaker 1: this week, I say it often, but I really mean
Speaker 1: this against Carolina, I think it's even more significant. The
Speaker 1: Jets have to win the turnover battle. This is a
Speaker 1: Panther's team that has not turned people over. I find
Speaker 1: that very interesting because they are in excellent defense. Time
Speaker 1: to hit the phones A Greens. Let's bring in Joe,
Speaker 1: person who covers the Panthers at the Charlotte Observer. Joe,
Speaker 1: are you surprised the Panthers are seven and three because
Speaker 1: looking at the stats, offensively not a prolific unit, but
Speaker 1: this team is winning with its defense. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm real surprised. I picked the
Speaker 1: Panthers at the beginning of the season six. I thought
Speaker 1: that they would be good but not great, and through
Speaker 1: the first ten games, I think that's kind of where
Speaker 1: they are there. Their defense has certainly been playoff caliber
Speaker 1: and maybe even championship caliber with the way they've played
Speaker 1: with with the additions of Julius Peppers, captain Monolins played
Speaker 1: pretty well at nickelback, and then of course getting Luke
Speaker 1: Keiklely back mostly healthy from that concussion. He did miss
Speaker 1: one game while in the protocol that as you said, though,
Speaker 1: the big thing with them is was the offense going
Speaker 1: to have enough to kind of match the defense and
Speaker 1: uh and could Cam bounce back from that just huge
Speaker 1: drop off he had last year following his m v
Speaker 1: P during their Super Bowl season, and the answer mostly
Speaker 1: has been no. In the offense hadn't been that great.
Speaker 1: They traded Calvin Benjamin was surprised a lot of people
Speaker 1: around the league. Actually, I thought it was a good
Speaker 1: move from the locker room standpoint. Benjamin was a guy,
Speaker 1: a bit of a prima donna, kind of stay eid overweight,
Speaker 1: and right before the bye the Panthers had a very
Speaker 1: terrific offense and showing on Monday Night against the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: They obviously want to try to build on that. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this is this though, the matchup against
Speaker 1: the Jets a couple of days after Thanksgiving, right before
Speaker 1: a trip to New Orleans to play the Smoking Hot Saints?
Speaker 1: Is this the classic trip game? Feels like it? Right? Uh?
Speaker 1: We actually didn't even wait until this week to start
Speaker 1: asking the Saints questions. I was asking them last week
Speaker 1: before the Vibe, just because you could see the Panthers
Speaker 1: and Saints kind of being on this collision course in
Speaker 1: the NFC South. Saints wanted winning again in pretty amazing
Speaker 1: fashion and in the Superdome. So yeah, you know, the
Speaker 1: Panthers are gonna say all the right things. Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: typically has done a pretty good job keeping his team focused. Interestingly,
Speaker 1: Rivera scenes have not always been real great coming out
Speaker 1: of a bye week. Now, the last couple of years
Speaker 1: they've kind of turned that around. Uh, and they've they've
Speaker 1: certainly been better in that regard, But early in Rivera's
Speaker 1: tenure here in Charlotte, they were pretty miserable after bye
Speaker 1: weeks or even after like the quote unquote Ninny bye week.
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be something. Uh, you know, Frankly, Rivera
Speaker 1: probably rather talk about that this week than to answer
Speaker 1: question about the Saints. But but interesting matchup, no doubt
Speaker 1: about it up in the Meadowlands this weekend. You recently
Speaker 1: touched on that you thought Cam Newton was the mid
Speaker 1: season m v P of the Carolina Panthers. I know
Speaker 1: that he's completing his passes, which would be a career high.
Speaker 1: But what's changed for him this season compared to last season,
Speaker 1: and then jumping off of that is what's changed in
Speaker 1: the passing game without Calvin Benjamin largely and Devin Funcious well.
Speaker 1: A couple of things. One, it is a new kind
Speaker 1: of Panthers offense. As you've touched on, they they went
Speaker 1: out and drafted Christian McCaffrey. They went out and drafted
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, who now is hurt and out for the season.
Speaker 1: But they wanted some versatile type backs, running back, slash
Speaker 1: wide receivers, slash slot guys that could give Cam underneath
Speaker 1: targets getting the ball out of his hands more quickly
Speaker 1: than these kind of slow developing seven step drop plays
Speaker 1: where he was just getting his head caved in last year.
Speaker 1: You know, he took a lot of shots. He's taken
Speaker 1: a lot of hits over the course of his career.
Speaker 1: But it's been interesting to see the kind of the
Speaker 1: evolution of this offense because they've been doing those types
Speaker 1: of plays that I just mentioned right from the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season one. It's worth pointing out that they
Speaker 1: don't have many guys who can truly stretch the field.
Speaker 1: Curtis Damuel was one of them, and now he's done,
Speaker 1: so they've really been relying on the underneath routes, uh,
Speaker 1: the kind of intermediate length route, the Devin's bunches, who
Speaker 1: has really stepped up well in the wake of the
Speaker 1: Benjamin trade. But then the second piece of this is
Speaker 1: early in this season Cam was not running. He's coming
Speaker 1: off that shoulder surgery. I think Mike Schuler was a
Speaker 1: little overly protective of him. Ron Rivera probably also a
Speaker 1: little too protective and Cam, I think let it be
Speaker 1: known inside the building that hey, I think we're better.
Speaker 1: I think I'm better when I'm more involved in the offense.
Speaker 1: And and he's right, and it certainly helps from his
Speaker 1: tactical standpoint, where teams have that extra guy to depend
Speaker 1: for you can you know, it kind of takes away
Speaker 1: the defense is man advantage when when Cam's running his
Speaker 1: own read. But it also helps from an enthusiasm, a
Speaker 1: momentum type standpoint. You know, Cam running around and and
Speaker 1: doing his first down signals and and and doing the dancing.
Speaker 1: All of that is very continued just and and his
Speaker 1: teammates on both sides of the ball kind of thrive
Speaker 1: on that. So I think getting Cam more back involved
Speaker 1: in the running game has been equally as important as
Speaker 1: as the new fangled twist in the passing game that
Speaker 1: I mentioned. You mentioned funcious obviously forty three receptions and
Speaker 1: the rookie Christian McCaffrey fifty seven catches, leading the team,
Speaker 1: and a lot of those passes are dump offs from
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. Has McCaffrey surprised there at all? Or is
Speaker 1: this what you anticipated a guy who carried Stanford's offense
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons. You know, if anything, I've
Speaker 1: been a little surprised that he hadn't broken off more
Speaker 1: big runs or or catching runs. And I was actually
Speaker 1: just having this conversation over a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: There was someone I was kind of debating whether McCaffrey
Speaker 1: was a bust and this and and this guy's point
Speaker 1: was just what I'm saying that he hadn't at any
Speaker 1: of just the huge sixty yard breaking ankles types of runs,
Speaker 1: and and I and I and I agreed with it,
Speaker 1: because of course he has not done that, I said.
Speaker 1: But my counter was his seven yard games are putting
Speaker 1: the offense in second and three instead of obvious passing
Speaker 1: downs where Cam is getting crushed in the pocket. They're
Speaker 1: keeping the defense fresh. This is an old defense. Thomas Davis,
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers, Captain Mannerlin, Mike Michael Adams safety all in
Speaker 1: their in their thirties. Charles Johnson also so McCaffrey has
Speaker 1: been pretty much what they expected, with the exception of
Speaker 1: maybe hoping for a couple more big plays. Joe Person
Speaker 1: joining us on the official Jets podcast covering the Panthers
Speaker 1: for the Charlotte Observer. You can follow him on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Joseph Person Joe. Right before we dive into the defense,
Speaker 1: here one last singers, what are the chances that Greg
Speaker 1: Olsen makes his return this Sunday. He's really gonna put
Speaker 1: some some stress on that on that surgically repaired foot
Speaker 1: that he broken Week two against Buffalo. Uh. If it
Speaker 1: responds well, then he intends to to you know, practice
Speaker 1: the rest of the week and play Sunday and Meadow Lens.
Speaker 1: Uh that is not a minor thing for this offense
Speaker 1: that you know, this is the guy. He became the
Speaker 1: first tight end in NFL history to post three consecutive
Speaker 1: a thousand yards receiving seasons. Uh, they've played okay at
Speaker 1: that position without him. At Dixon, who incidentally is the
Speaker 1: only guy on this team with a Super Bowl ring,
Speaker 1: having won it with Ravens a few years ago. He's
Speaker 1: done okay. But what's hurt them is with Dixon having
Speaker 1: to get into the primary tight end receiving role, best
Speaker 1: blocking tight in and that's been a trickle down effect.
Speaker 1: And uh so, certainly from the Panthers standpoint, they'd like
Speaker 1: to get Greg Olsen back, and they also like to
Speaker 1: get their Pro Bowls then or Ryan Khalil back. He's
Speaker 1: missed any much, all but a game and a half
Speaker 1: this season with a lingering, serious neck issue. All Right, Joe,
Speaker 1: the water must be good down there, because Julius Peppers
Speaker 1: is fifty five years old and he's got seven and
Speaker 1: a half sacks. You mentioned this over thirty crew. Defensively,
Speaker 1: I think Thomas Davis has been playing at a pro
Speaker 1: Bowl level for like twenty five seasons. Give me a
Speaker 1: couple of X factors on that defense. Why has it
Speaker 1: worked so well? Yeah, that's a good question. And uh,
Speaker 1: you guys have come to mind for me second year
Speaker 1: cornerback James Bradberry and then third year linebacker Jack Thompson.
Speaker 1: The young guys drafted very highly. Bradberry's second round pick
Speaker 1: after the Panthers parted ways with Josh Norman last offseason. Uh,
Speaker 1: Thompson was the first round draft pick in two thousand.
Speaker 1: Really has not been on the field a whole lot
Speaker 1: his first couple of seasons because he plays at their
Speaker 1: deepest position, where guys you mentioned Lee, Lukeikle and Thomas Davis.
Speaker 1: But they have found a way to get Thompson on
Speaker 1: the field and he and and they're doing that by
Speaker 1: putting him out in kind of at what they call
Speaker 1: their big nickel position. That's, you know, to see a
Speaker 1: pretty sizable linebacker out of space, covering slot receivers and something.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes he's gotten beat. Uh, but it makes
Speaker 1: it difficult for opposing offenses because you know, they're they're
Speaker 1: not sure if he's in the game exactly what the
Speaker 1: Panthers are running. He might be inside, he might be out,
Speaker 1: but he's a very good and then James Bradberr. He's
Speaker 1: the guy doesn't get much pressed, he doesn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of interceptions, don't have any interceptions, but he really
Speaker 1: has done a pretty good job taking away his half
Speaker 1: the field. He's really took his lumps as a rookie,
Speaker 1: but he's come back this year but very well in
Speaker 1: a secondary that really is the only kind of Achilles
Speaker 1: heel if there is one on this defense jumping off
Speaker 1: the Achilles he'll p in. Is what do you think
Speaker 1: are some favorable matchups this weekend for the Jets and
Speaker 1: how do you expect them to attack this Panther's defense
Speaker 1: stat's playing at an extremely high level right now. Where
Speaker 1: they'll probably trying to go after is the cornerback position
Speaker 1: opposite Bradberry that has been kind of a revolving door
Speaker 1: this year. It's been mostly a rotation between Darryl Whirling, who,
Speaker 1: like Bradberry, came in as a third round pick after
Speaker 1: the Norman decisions, and then they traded with Buffalo right
Speaker 1: before the season started and they got got this former
Speaker 1: Southern Cow corner Kivon teymore. Neither of those guys have
Speaker 1: been been particularly good. Yeah, they have not given up
Speaker 1: huge place, that's probably the only saving grades. But they
Speaker 1: have consistently been picked on and and given up quite
Speaker 1: a bit of underneath an intermediate type yardage. That to me,
Speaker 1: if you're the Jets, is where you want to attack
Speaker 1: the pants. Last one, Joe for me is you tweeted
Speaker 1: about Cam Newton saying this season is starting to have
Speaker 1: a special feel. As a person who isn't in that
Speaker 1: locker room every day, who has covered them since training camp,
Speaker 1: would you agree with that assessment or would you say
Speaker 1: a little bit too early, Let's see how the next
Speaker 1: couple of games go. Yeah, you know, the thing is different.
Speaker 1: And he was being asked, I think in that context
Speaker 1: of that quote was he was being asked about two
Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen. Look, there avery many seasons. They're gonna
Speaker 1: feel like that when you when you start out fourteen
Speaker 1: and oh, finished fifteen and one, roll to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Obviously didn't get it done in Super Bowl fifty against
Speaker 1: the Broncos. But that's it's kind of like what I said,
Speaker 1: you know, right right at the start here, this is
Speaker 1: a very good defense other than that cornerback position. You know,
Speaker 1: you pretty much take your chances with this defense against
Speaker 1: anyone you're gonna see on the NFC side of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And those are some stout offense. Look mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: naive going down to New Orleans for this team in
Speaker 1: two weeks going to be a test. But about a
Speaker 1: month ago or less, they go to Chicago, didn't score
Speaker 1: an offensive touchdown, and worse, they gave the Bears too
Speaker 1: defensive touchdown. So is that the offense that we're gonna
Speaker 1: see over the next six weeks or is it the
Speaker 1: one that we've seen the last couple of weeks that's
Speaker 1: been dynamic, that's been diverse, and and and you know,
Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun to watch. So that
Speaker 1: to me, I'm kind of tell the tale at Joseph
Speaker 1: Person he covers the Panthers at the Charlotte Observer, Joe,
Speaker 1: tremendous job. We'll see you up here about Life Stadium
Speaker 1: this weekend. Happy thanksgivings, awesome same to you and appreciate
Speaker 1: you having meal. He a something that I thought that
Speaker 1: was extremely interesting was the fact that he thought Calvin
Speaker 1: Benjamin was an addition by subtraction. That's what Joe Person
Speaker 1: of the Charlotte Observer wrote recently, and in turn, Devin
Speaker 1: Funches has really taken on that wide receiver one, and
Speaker 1: Carolina offense has kind of took off even without someone
Speaker 1: like reg Olds. I think the key matchup for the
Speaker 1: Jets defensively this week obviously Cam yes, but then it
Speaker 1: goes to McCaffrey. You have to contain Christian McCaffrey this week.
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. You mentioned that fifty seven receptions fourteen more
Speaker 1: than Devin Funches, whose wide receiver one for the Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 1: but McCaffrey only has four thirty three yards through the airdown.
Speaker 1: But what Joe was saying is the most important part
Speaker 1: of that is that people are like, well, he's not
Speaker 1: breaking those long ones like he was in the back
Speaker 1: then the back twelve and Stanford. But what he's doing
Speaker 1: is getting the Carolina offense into favorable down in distant situations.
Speaker 1: The other thing that stood out to me that I
Speaker 1: did not know is the Panthers traditionally over the years
Speaker 1: under Ron River and struggle coming out of the boy.
Speaker 1: I'm curious how the Jets are gonna attack Christian McCaffrey. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton has to be the focal point. But it
Speaker 1: with McCaffrey, Is it Darren Lee that's a matchup? Is
Speaker 1: it to Mario Davis or is it someone like Jamal
Speaker 1: Adams where he comes down in the box more and
Speaker 1: he's mainly a Christian McCaffrey spy. Well, Bart Scott and
Speaker 1: I looked at it in the film room this week,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be on Jets Flight Plan CBS eleven
Speaker 1: thirty Sunday morning for those in the dry state. We
Speaker 1: also put that segment up on New York Just dot
Speaker 1: Com with Newton, you gotta watch out for the read
Speaker 1: option and you have to be disciplined as far as
Speaker 1: staying in your gaps. Where's that end coming? How about
Speaker 1: the defensive back? One angles are you're taking because he's
Speaker 1: gonna get in the gun and at times he's gonna
Speaker 1: run the read option. And the thing for this matchup
Speaker 1: is what can the Jets offense do against the NFL's
Speaker 1: number one defense. Because the Carolina knows their scheme, knows
Speaker 1: the way they're gonna play. They have tremendous intelligence on
Speaker 1: that side of the football that that's really struggled offensively
Speaker 1: against Tampa the last time we saw him because they
Speaker 1: were not winning on first and second down and we're
Speaker 1: getting in third and long situations. You can't do that
Speaker 1: against the Panthers. You have to get some favorable plays
Speaker 1: early on drive. So otherwise, um, you're gonna be playing
Speaker 1: a field position game and nets right up Carolina's alley.
Speaker 1: And Joe mentioned that maybe a favorable matchup for the
Speaker 1: Jets is the cornerback opposite brad Berry, And I'm just curious,
Speaker 1: you know, are the Jets gonna try to line whoever
Speaker 1: lines up across from Bradberry? Is it Robbie Anderson? Is
Speaker 1: you gonna Are you gonna try to beat that guy deep?
Speaker 1: Is it your main curse? And just try to work
Speaker 1: the intermediate routes well. Rob in a great point about
Speaker 1: Robbie goes into this game four four for four for
Speaker 1: the last four games, four touchdowns, and again, guys see
Speaker 1: him on film and I still think they're surprised about
Speaker 1: his flat out speed. Where Robbie has really developed this
Speaker 1: years said, I think he's getting better off the line,
Speaker 1: and the thing that's underrated about him as his short
Speaker 1: area quickness. He's not just a burner. Some guys can
Speaker 1: just run. He's really good off the line using his feet.
Speaker 1: Talking about the Jets offense, I think it's time we
Speaker 1: check in with Chad Pettington post byewee. Al Right, Green's
Speaker 1: let's go down to Kentucky and bringing our quarterback Chad
Speaker 1: Pennington jed, what do you think about the Jets four
Speaker 1: and six records? Of course, will be back at MetLife
Speaker 1: Stadium to play the Carolina Panthers when action resumes. Well,
Speaker 1: I would be lying to you. Eric said that I
Speaker 1: wasn't disappointed. Uh, this team still has a chance to
Speaker 1: go out and find compete and win football games. But
Speaker 1: certainly a forward sakes it puts a damper on things.
Speaker 1: What happened to McCown in the offense against Tampa and
Speaker 1: how do you stop that from becoming a trend? Because
Speaker 1: the next opponent the Jets will face is a Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers defense who is suffocating at times. Carol line of
Speaker 1: defense is impressed and there's no doubt about it. And
Speaker 1: it's not that they do it with complicated schemes or
Speaker 1: anything like that. They do it with effort and being
Speaker 1: in the right place and being smart football players, and
Speaker 1: they understand their scheme and they just out execute their opponent.
Speaker 1: With that being said, the Jets did themselves no favors
Speaker 1: with self inflicted wounds, namely penalties. When I look at
Speaker 1: the schemes, the one thing that I would have liked
Speaker 1: to have seen more of based upon how Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: was playing, I felt like Tampa Bay was putting a
Speaker 1: lot of defenders up around the line of scrammings to
Speaker 1: say that Jet, you're not going to run the ball
Speaker 1: on first and second down. But that being said, that
Speaker 1: lends itself to being able to pass the ball on
Speaker 1: first and second down, and I felt like I would
Speaker 1: like to have seen more of that on first and
Speaker 1: second down to kind of give yourself a little bit
Speaker 1: of breathing room instead of just trying to run against
Speaker 1: eight and nine half fronts on first down. How did
Speaker 1: the Jets go about maintaining consistency on offense, because after
Speaker 1: the game, josh Ma Cowen said that that's gonna be
Speaker 1: the main point of the bye week moving forward into
Speaker 1: Carolina week, is that this offense and defense has both
Speaker 1: shown that they can hang with the best of the NFL.
Speaker 1: Is just a question of being consistent well, first of all,
Speaker 1: consistency starts with focus and concentration and being technically sound,
Speaker 1: and so you can't have off side penalties and balls
Speaker 1: starts and holding penalties and illegal formations and illegal motions
Speaker 1: and things like that that are just creates a negative aura,
Speaker 1: which is not good. Secondly, has to be more consistent
Speaker 1: on first and second down UH and mixing the run
Speaker 1: in the past and getting positive yards, whether it be
Speaker 1: even if it's just two to three yard games on
Speaker 1: first and second down. You put those two together, you're
Speaker 1: in the third and fourth situation. You're not in a
Speaker 1: third and eight situation, third and tent situation that normally
Speaker 1: lends itself to more offensive productivity as well. What does
Speaker 1: type balls have to do with this club when they
Speaker 1: get back to Flora Park and they start the week
Speaker 1: it's a six game season right now. Well, I think
Speaker 1: the approach doesn't necessarily change. I think, um, the preparation
Speaker 1: AH doesn't change. I think it's a mindset. It's a
Speaker 1: mindset of UH now at four and six. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's about the game of football as it is
Speaker 1: much about just you as a man and what you
Speaker 1: believe in and what you stand for. And what you
Speaker 1: want your individual performance to look like. Um, and then
Speaker 1: how that will affect the team's performance. That's what it
Speaker 1: comes down to. When you get into this type of
Speaker 1: situation where you're four and six, You've got six games left. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it could go. It could be anywhere between
Speaker 1: four and twelve all the way to ten and six
Speaker 1: and so or somewhere in between. So, um, you're going
Speaker 1: to be tested as a man and as a professional
Speaker 1: to continue to fight and grind and play as hard
Speaker 1: as you can, play as smart as you can, and
Speaker 1: try to find ways to uh, you know, get a victory. Um.
Speaker 1: That's that's really the biggest challenge. Do you make anything
Speaker 1: about this team's road performance to date? Only one victory
Speaker 1: away from home on the year, of of course, that
Speaker 1: was in Cleveland. They had a late lead in Miami
Speaker 1: unfortunately weren't able to hang on there, and then we
Speaker 1: just saw the latest effort in Tampa. It seems sometimes
Speaker 1: lacking a little bit of juice or trying to find
Speaker 1: themselves on the road. Yeah. Other than the Miami game,
Speaker 1: I think the starts to these road games have not
Speaker 1: been very good. Um, And so getting off the fast
Speaker 1: starts on the road, and on the road you cannot
Speaker 1: you don't have the ability to feed off of your
Speaker 1: crowd and the energy and the momentum from your crowd,
Speaker 1: and so you have to create that yourself. And so
Speaker 1: that that to me seems to be something that needs
Speaker 1: to be a priority on the road. Is is really
Speaker 1: getting off the fast start and creating that momentum and energy,
Speaker 1: that excitement and enthusiasm on the road for yourself so
Speaker 1: that you can play well. Is that a sign of
Speaker 1: a young team? You think or you don't buy that. Well,
Speaker 1: it certainly can be a sign of a young team. Um,
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know how much of this
Speaker 1: quote young team stuff we can continue to talk about.
Speaker 1: You look at the average age in the NFL now,
Speaker 1: as far as teams are concerned, it's around twenty five
Speaker 1: years old. So when we're no longer talking about veteran
Speaker 1: teams now, uh, you know, when I was a rookie,
Speaker 1: half our team was over thirty. And so now you
Speaker 1: can count on one hand how many thirty year olds
Speaker 1: you have on each team. So, um, there's still a
Speaker 1: learning curve there. I do believe that. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, you could take a look at you know,
Speaker 1: a team like the Los Angeles Rams with a brand
Speaker 1: new coach who's ten years younger than me. You and
Speaker 1: me both in a second year quarterback, and they're sitting
Speaker 1: there at seven and two. So it's still about approach
Speaker 1: and and your work ethic and just your mindset after
Speaker 1: ten weeks of football. Now, Chad, when you look back
Speaker 1: on the Jets offense in particular, you know, expectations versus
Speaker 1: right now, what do you think about this unit and
Speaker 1: what do you think about this unit moving forward for
Speaker 1: this last six games? Well, I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of positive things to to grab onto. Up until the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay game, I thought, uh, there was some exciting
Speaker 1: football being played. There were plays being made, and there
Speaker 1: was a really good rhythm and tempo to the offense.
Speaker 1: You know, that can be gotten back, and being able
Speaker 1: to use these last six games to do that, that
Speaker 1: can be recovered. But I do like some of the
Speaker 1: things that are happening offensively. I like how we're able
Speaker 1: to see the playmaking ability of Jenkins, the playmaking ability
Speaker 1: of Robby Anderson, what Curse brings to the table um,
Speaker 1: what the running backs do? You know, We've been able
Speaker 1: to see some really good things, and and for the
Speaker 1: most part you've been able to do that because the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks playing well. Without a quarterback playing well, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to see those things. And so um, to me,
Speaker 1: the cup is half full. It's not half empty. There's
Speaker 1: some really good things to build on. And what you
Speaker 1: really want to see these last six games is to
Speaker 1: just take another step offensively and really start putting some
Speaker 1: good games together where they're scoring twenty four, twenty seven
Speaker 1: points and and they're really getting you know, putting their
Speaker 1: their team in a good position to win offensively because
Speaker 1: defensively they've done a relatively good job. How difficult well
Speaker 1: this two game homestand b for the Jets, I mean
Speaker 1: after these two games again, the Carolina Panthers in Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, they just have one more game or meaning
Speaker 1: not Life Stadium. There are three road dates out of
Speaker 1: the last four contests to close the season. You gotta
Speaker 1: go to Denver, got to go to New Orleans, and
Speaker 1: then you finish up the season New Year's Eve in
Speaker 1: New England. But let's focus on Carolina thank Kansas City.
Speaker 1: When I look at these teams, I think out balance
Speaker 1: football clubs who play hard, who are very physical. Carolina
Speaker 1: isn't a prolific offense, but they've shown at times a
Speaker 1: k against the Miami Dolphins that they can put points
Speaker 1: up on the board. Newton is a dual threat. They
Speaker 1: got Christian McCaffrey out of the backfield, Devin Foncius is
Speaker 1: filling that number one wide out role, and then defensively,
Speaker 1: you know it better than me. You look at Luke
Speaker 1: Kickley and Thomas Davis and Julius Poppers is seventy five
Speaker 1: years old. He's still getting the job done. The secondary
Speaker 1: is very aggressive. I just look at it and say, Wow,
Speaker 1: this was gonna be a big test for the Jets.
Speaker 1: After the boy it's huge. It's a huge test. And
Speaker 1: the Carolina game, I think that's a winnable game for
Speaker 1: the Jets. I think the formula, playing tough defense, not
Speaker 1: not allowing to dictate the tempo of the game with
Speaker 1: turnovers and things like that, I think they have a shot.
Speaker 1: I don't look at Carolina's offense and and just get
Speaker 1: really scared. Um. I know they have some big play capability,
Speaker 1: but not to the extent of other teams in this league.
Speaker 1: And this is a winnable game, and I think would
Speaker 1: be more of a seventeen fourteen type. Try to pull
Speaker 1: it out like that and make it ugly. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like the old Jets versus Dolphins games and the
Speaker 1: two thousand's where the Dolphins had such a good defense.
Speaker 1: But as the Jet teams, we knew this on offensively,
Speaker 1: we didn't turn the ball over and we got to
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, we'd find a way to win, and
Speaker 1: that's why we're able to win seven out of eight
Speaker 1: during that stretch. Yeah, well, we're looking forward to some
Speaker 1: post Thanksgiving football. Happy Thanksgiving to you in your family.
Speaker 1: What do you have planned yet? Well, we've got some
Speaker 1: basketball games here this week, going to enjoy next week,
Speaker 1: we've got family coming in town, West Virginia and just
Speaker 1: laying Lowland just a little bit so trying to or
Speaker 1: two pard from middle school football season and and get
Speaker 1: ready for holiday. Well you guys, stay warm and Kentucky buddy,
Speaker 1: and we'll touch base next week. All right, Thanks God? Alright, Greenens.
Speaker 1: What stood out to me there is Chad said the
Speaker 1: Jets are gonna be tested as far as what kind
Speaker 1: of individual you are? What are you gonna be playing for?
Speaker 1: Donna stretch here the final six games With that being said,
Speaker 1: listen to a man, if you're a player in that
Speaker 1: locker room, your goals to make the playoffs. And you
Speaker 1: mentioned in our first segment, Greens Baltimore is sitting there
Speaker 1: in sixth seed. There's a ton of football left to
Speaker 1: be played, but they're in the number six seed right
Speaker 1: now with the five and five record, The Jets aren't
Speaker 1: too far away from that. Yeah, these two weeks are
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty crucial for the Green and White, especially
Speaker 1: coming out of the bye week here. And what better
Speaker 1: way to you know, use this weekend as a barometer
Speaker 1: as how good your offense is and what changes that
Speaker 1: you wanted to make in the bye week and now
Speaker 1: see and implement something for the final stretch here. Last week,
Speaker 1: Josh McCown said that the thing that you wants to
Speaker 1: improve for the final stretch run here is consistency, because
Speaker 1: he said both units have played with the top units
Speaker 1: in the National Football League at times, but he wants
Speaker 1: to develop some form of consistency. And this week, I
Speaker 1: mean the the offense will have a very difficult test
Speaker 1: in the Panthers defense. And we've touched on it here
Speaker 1: and there, and maybe the maybe they Jets try to
Speaker 1: establish a ground game, something they couldn't get going in
Speaker 1: Florida against the Bucks. Maybe they get boosted with the
Speaker 1: return of Matt Forte. Obviously we'll have to see his
Speaker 1: health as the week moves forward, along with more Wilkerson
Speaker 1: Morris Clayborne. But the bye week came at an opportune
Speaker 1: time for the Jets that we're getting a little bang. Doun. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned Walkerson. He's gonna be the lineup.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be the lineup. Greens, you don't
Speaker 1: even have to mention him. He's the guy who said
Speaker 1: that the rest only Rusty needed was a bye week.
Speaker 1: Well he got to buy a week. So and he's
Speaker 1: also been coming on also Wonder and Williams. I know
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the SEC totals that he wants right now,
Speaker 1: but Randy Lang published an article on New York Just
Speaker 1: dot Com him this week saying he's third in the
Speaker 1: National Football League in terms of quarterback hits. I think
Speaker 1: he's coming on. So both of those guys are gonna
Speaker 1: be key this week because listen, you gotta win in
Speaker 1: the trenches against this Carolina team, because they're tough, they're gritty,
Speaker 1: they're nasty, and you gotta make it a long day
Speaker 1: for them. I think defensively, you could have a lot
Speaker 1: of success against this team. Um you know, I think
Speaker 1: about the last time we saw this defense at MetLife
Speaker 1: Stadium at MetLife Stadium, and that was against the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 1: and they faced an elusive quarterback, a totally different UH
Speaker 1: player than Cam Newton, no doubt about it, but a
Speaker 1: team that had an explosive player in the backfield and
Speaker 1: Shady McCoy. They shut down Shady and then they got
Speaker 1: after the quarterback. So let's see if they can have
Speaker 1: a similar performance against Carolina, who had a prolific effort
Speaker 1: on a primetime game against the Miami Dolphins. This is
Speaker 1: a totally different situation, as we discussed with Joe person
Speaker 1: because when I look at the schedule right now and
Speaker 1: you're ten Arolina Panther fan, you're saying, Jets, we got
Speaker 1: this one, because you're already targeting that game against the
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints and saying that's for NC self supremacy.
Speaker 1: I think the Jets can make a statement early by
Speaker 1: saying hey, uh uh, you're gonna be in for a
Speaker 1: dog fight and that's all we got on the Official
Speaker 1: Jets Podcast game preview once again, Jets Panthers this Sunday MetLife,
Speaker 1: stating one o'clock for the first game following the bye
Speaker 1: week to kick off the stretch run of NFL season.
Speaker 1: That's all we got this week for Eric Allen. I'm
Speaker 1: Ethan Greenberger eighty Pat