WEBVTT - CZM Book Club: The Barrow Will Send What it May, Chapter Six

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>we've always used. I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy, and this

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<v Speaker 2>the reading because I do it for you. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 2>Margaret Kiljoy. I might have already said that, I'm not certain,

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<v Speaker 2>but what I haven't told you yet is what we're

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<v Speaker 2>reading this week. Although you probably know because it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing we read last week, only an additional chapter

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<v Speaker 2>further in. And also it's probably in the title. It

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<v Speaker 2>might even be why you clicked on it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We're reading The Barrow Will Send what it May Chapter six,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the second book in the Danielle Kaine series,

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<v Speaker 2>which I started reading on book club because book Club

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<v Speaker 2>started with me reading the first book in the series,

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<v Speaker 2>called The Lamble Slaughter of the Lion a year and

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<v Speaker 2>a half ago or whenever it was. And now the

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<v Speaker 2>third book, which is called The Immortal Choir Holds Every Voice,

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<v Speaker 2>is about to come out. The pre orders are available now,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I thought that you all should get to

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<v Speaker 2>hear the second book for free. So I started reading

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<v Speaker 2>it to you. I'm still reading it to you. And

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<v Speaker 2>then after that, I'm really excited about what comes after that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't get to know yet, but I get

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<v Speaker 2>to know, and so I get to have a nice

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<v Speaker 2>thing and you don't until later. I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 2>the thing where I read you the last couple paragraphs

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<v Speaker 2>of what we read last week, just so that you

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<v Speaker 2>know what happened in case or whatever. Here they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Half an hour later, the library door opened and shut,

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<v Speaker 2>and several pairs of feet trumped up the stairs. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday shouted, we're back. More shuffling of feet as someone

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<v Speaker 2>presumably Thursday, walked through the whole of the apartment. At last,

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<v Speaker 2>he opened the door to the room we were in.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's Vacilla's dun dund dum. That's the cliffhanger. But you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to wait anymore, because you already waited. Chapter six.

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<v Speaker 2>Son of a Shit, Thursday roared, running down the stairs

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<v Speaker 2>to search the library below. Gertrude stood in the living

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<v Speaker 2>room staring at Heather. A weak smile sat on the

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<v Speaker 2>older woman's lips, and fear and sadness were fighting for

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<v Speaker 2>control of her eyes. He killed her, She asked, running

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<v Speaker 2>a finger along Heather's cheek. We really had to do

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<v Speaker 2>something with the body. I never would have guessed I'd

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<v Speaker 2>ever be too busy to deal with a dead body

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<v Speaker 2>of a new friend. But there we were, scrambling to

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<v Speaker 2>keep everyone else still alive while a corpse grew cold

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<v Speaker 2>on the table. How long till it started to rot?

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of? I answered, he definitely killed me, though, Asola

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<v Speaker 2>walked into the room, and he killed two of my

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<v Speaker 2>friends to bring you back. I'm sorry, she said, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know. I couldn't get a good read on whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not she was lying. What's your story? I asked,

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<v Speaker 2>for real, what happened to you? I died of cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember dying. It was peaceful, a sharp end of pain,

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<v Speaker 2>like falling asleep, but simpler, better. I was in the

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<v Speaker 2>hospital in Billings and there were flowers everywhere, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was next to me, holding my hand. He was crying.

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<v Speaker 2>We never had children, him and me. I never wanted them.

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<v Speaker 2>Just for a second, I wished I'd had kids, someone

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<v Speaker 2>else for him to love. He's never been good at

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<v Speaker 2>not having someone to love, and I worried about him.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to tell him it was fine. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to tell him I was going to a better place,

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<v Speaker 2>that he could still love me or love someone else too,

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<v Speaker 2>and that i'd see him again. But I didn't say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all too complicated. I didn't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>say it. I just let myself die. I nodded. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up in our bed here in town. I

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<v Speaker 2>died with snow out the window. I woke up to

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<v Speaker 2>the sound of summer birds. Six months had gone by.

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<v Speaker 2>He he told me what he'd done, A bit of it,

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<v Speaker 2>only part of it, I'm guessing. He told me he'd

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<v Speaker 2>brought me back to be with him. He told me

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't live without me. And you left him, I asked.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say anything at all. For a whole day,

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<v Speaker 2>I laid in bed thinking about everything. He was respectful.

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<v Speaker 2>He noticed I wasn't feeling right, and he slept on

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<v Speaker 2>a cot next to our bed. He only left my

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<v Speaker 2>side to bring me food and water. He just sat

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<v Speaker 2>there reading books while I laid there thinking it over.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many sides to every person. After I

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<v Speaker 2>stayed up through the night. When the sun rose up again,

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at him, and the first words I said

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<v Speaker 2>were till death dew. We part. Then I told him

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<v Speaker 2>it's not right what he did. I told him the

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<v Speaker 2>dead or supposed to stay dead, and what he'd done

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't right by God. I'd always known and loved God

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<v Speaker 2>more than my husband did, and my husband had always

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<v Speaker 2>loved me more than he'd loved God. So I moved out,

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<v Speaker 2>simple as that. That was the last thing I'd ever

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to think about any of it. Then your friends

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<v Speaker 2>show up tonight, tell me he's liable to kill me.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of me thinks he'd be right to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of me, though, is just damn scared. Vulture put

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<v Speaker 2>his arm around Gertrude, and she hugged him. I decided

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<v Speaker 2>I believed her, not completely, But you don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>believe someone completely to choose to believe them enough that

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<v Speaker 2>you can act on their way, much like I believe

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<v Speaker 2>in the goods and services that support this very podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite, and we're back. One of the books is

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<v Speaker 2>missing Doomsday, said Crouch, next to the stack of books

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor, small one, gold spine, black cover. It's

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<v Speaker 2>where I learned about witches fire. She looked up toward

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<v Speaker 2>the window where she'd been sitting earlier. Fucking gun is gone. Too,

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<v Speaker 2>getting fucking sick of people stealing my gun. Vascillis went

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<v Speaker 2>to the gift shop. I bet, I said, he's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get into the basement, trying to get the book

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<v Speaker 2>without waiting for us. I thought that through for another moment.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants the book because he's going to try and

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<v Speaker 2>resurrect Heather. I bet he'll kill mister Miller to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>He seemed to Doomsday said, but I didn't realize he

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<v Speaker 2>was both desperate and stupid. Men will do anything if

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<v Speaker 2>they think it's in the best interest of some woman

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<v Speaker 2>they love. Gertrude said, whether or not the woman agrees.

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday rushed back up the stairs, slamming open the apartment door.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not in the library. I checked everywhere. He probably

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<v Speaker 2>went after Sebastian, I said, okay, Thursday said Vulture, Brinn Danielle,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll go after him. Doom, you stay here guard these two.

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<v Speaker 2>The town was just starting to rise as we tore

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<v Speaker 2>down the main road on bikes, and people came out

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<v Speaker 2>of stores on the main strip to stand on the

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<v Speaker 2>boardwalk and stare. Crows and Magpie sat on the power

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<v Speaker 2>lines watching us too. We hit the one traffic light

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<v Speaker 2>on a red and waited. Though there were no cars

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<v Speaker 2>coming in any direction. Thursday pulled up beside me. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's high noon or something, he laughed. I

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<v Speaker 2>heard shouting up ahead and ran the light. Vasillis and

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<v Speaker 2>Sebastian stood in the shadow of the Tyrannosaur, not ten

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<v Speaker 2>feet distant from each other, weapons leveled. Vasillis held Doomsday's

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<v Speaker 2>pistol in a one handed amateur grip. Sebastian held a

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<v Speaker 2>bolt action hunting rifle shouldered sis men Brenn said, shaking

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<v Speaker 2>her head. She dropped her bike on the street and

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<v Speaker 2>flicked open her baton, walking toward the pear, Hey, I shouted.

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<v Speaker 2>If the two exchanged fire, it wouldn't work out well

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<v Speaker 2>for either of them. Vasillis didn't know what he was doing,

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<v Speaker 2>but he had a semi automatic pistol and likely a

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<v Speaker 2>full magazine. Sebastian and probably brought down an animal or

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<v Speaker 2>two in his day, but a bolt action rifle ain't

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<v Speaker 2>the tool for the job of close combat. They both

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<v Speaker 2>turned to look at me. Who in God's name are

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<v Speaker 2>you people, Sebastian asked, I'm Danielle. I said, I knew

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<v Speaker 2>what he meant, but I didn't feel like answering his

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<v Speaker 2>implicit question. I caught this man trying to break into

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<v Speaker 2>my place of business. I have every legal right to

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<v Speaker 2>shoot him if he doesn't leave the property. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about law, I said, I don't care about law.

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<v Speaker 2>I care about what I can get away with, and

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<v Speaker 2>that includes shooting your face tattooed freak of a librarian. Friend.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want that. I don't even know what I

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<v Speaker 2>want anymore. All the fuss had attracted some onlookers. We

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<v Speaker 2>are at the very end of town, but a few

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<v Speaker 2>people had already filtered over. None of them looked particularly

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<v Speaker 2>friendly toward us in their shoes. I wouldn't be either.

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<v Speaker 2>He's stalling, Brenna whispered into my ear, waiting for a crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>We should bring him down now. No, come on, I

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<v Speaker 2>said back. I don't want Vicilis to die. I'm sick

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<v Speaker 2>of seeing people die. We'll talk our way through this.

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<v Speaker 2>Sebastian had a small backpack thrown over one shoulder. Vascillas

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<v Speaker 2>kept eyeing it, and Sebastian kept moving his body unconsciously

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<v Speaker 2>to keep it as far from his assailant as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>The book was in there. It was a hunch, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to gamble, alife on. I approached, raising my hands over

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<v Speaker 2>my head. Stay back, Sebastian said, his voice was cracked

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<v Speaker 2>with worry and exhaustion. For all the world, he could

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<v Speaker 2>have just been someone's dad if things had played out

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<v Speaker 2>the slightest bit differently, he'd have just lived his life

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<v Speaker 2>reading thrillers and watching TV and hunting, and none of

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<v Speaker 2>this would have happened. Just want to talk this through,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, We're at an impasse. Let's find a way

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<v Speaker 2>past it. I don't see the impasse. I've got the

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<v Speaker 2>upper hand. You attack us, we'll kill you. We attack you,

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<v Speaker 2>you kill one of us, and likely at least some

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<v Speaker 2>of us end up in jail. You included you'll end

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<v Speaker 2>up in jail in either scenario, he said. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think people with face tattoos are the kind of people

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<v Speaker 2>who are afraid of ending up in prison? I asked,

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<v Speaker 2>I stepped closer. I approached from his right side, which

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<v Speaker 2>was convenient because it's the harder direction for a right

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<v Speaker 2>handed shooter to swing a rifle. I wasn't near enough

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<v Speaker 2>to reach his gun even if I lunged, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was getting close. You think you can scare women who

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<v Speaker 2>spent their lives hitchhiking alone. You think a man who

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<v Speaker 2>raises the dead would be afraid of a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>fucking punk kids, No, Brent said, standing shoulder to shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>with me. You're right. You're not afraid of us. You're

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<v Speaker 2>a different kind of coward. You're afraid of being alone.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't resurrect your wife for her. You did it

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Take one step closer and I'll shoot at

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<v Speaker 2>least two of you. See, I said, what was I

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<v Speaker 2>telling you? Impasse? I looked over my shoulder. Thursday and

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<v Speaker 2>Vulture were there with the bikes. Thursday had his hand

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<v Speaker 2>in his hoodie pocket, Culture at his phone. A serious

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<v Speaker 2>crowd was gathering, maybe ten people already, with another dozen

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<v Speaker 2>on their way. They stayed clear of the line of

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<v Speaker 2>fire between the two armed men, but were getting awfully

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<v Speaker 2>close to the rest of us. A few of them

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<v Speaker 2>were open carrying pistols at their waists. Interpersonal crime is

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<v Speaker 2>so much more annoying to commit in open carry states.

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<v Speaker 2>At the back of the crowd, leaning against the glass

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<v Speaker 2>front of a lawyer's office, a man with black sunglasses

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<v Speaker 2>and a black suit sipped coffee, his blonde hair in

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<v Speaker 2>a tight bun. Next to him a freckled woman with

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<v Speaker 2>her hair in a sixties bob dressed identically to the

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<v Speaker 2>man ate a doughnut. They weren't part of the crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just watching fucking magic Feds. Hipster magic Feds.

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<v Speaker 2>You need any help, mister Miller, A young voice shouted, why, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I need these products and services. He shouted back, because

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<v Speaker 2>he too, all sides of a conflict really could do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot with products and services, just like you can.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're back. These punks broke into my shop, he answered.

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<v Speaker 2>I scared them off because they're chicken shit, but they

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<v Speaker 2>got me out numbered out here. Fuck this, I took

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<v Speaker 2>another step forward. Sebastian started to swing the gun around

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<v Speaker 2>to face me. Long barrel, terrible for close range. I

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<v Speaker 2>pushed in closer, knocking the barrel aside. Used my bad

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<v Speaker 2>arm to do it, which I shouldn't have, the stitched

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<v Speaker 2>up wound in my shoulder, complained. Got my knife out

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<v Speaker 2>of my pocket and open in one motion, brought it up.

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<v Speaker 2>He flinched hard, closing his eyes, dropping the rifle to

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<v Speaker 2>points slack at the ground while he covered his throat.

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<v Speaker 2>I cut the strap of his backpack down at the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom where the strap is thinnest and the farthest away

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<v Speaker 2>from meat, and snatched it. I stomped the barrel of

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<v Speaker 2>his rifle and disarmed him. Too many armed strangers around

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<v Speaker 2>to kill him then and there, bucking run. Brynn shouted,

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<v Speaker 2>We ran. Vacillis came with us. Thursday at the front,

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<v Speaker 2>put his knot in substantial mass to bear, and plowed

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<v Speaker 2>through our audience before they had time to react. We

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<v Speaker 2>got off the main street first thing, and Vacillis took

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<v Speaker 2>us through an alley. Brynn overturned a dumpster in our

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<v Speaker 2>path to slow down our pursuers ahead of us. Thursday shouted.

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<v Speaker 2>Four men at the mouth of the alley barred our path.

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<v Speaker 2>We grabbed a second dumpster and pushed it ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>us on its castor wheels. I pushed with my one arm,

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<v Speaker 2>the other hurt like hell. I might have ripped the stitches.

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<v Speaker 2>A shot rang out the ping against the steel side

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<v Speaker 2>of the dumpster, almost as loud as the report itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't have been a long gun, or it would have

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<v Speaker 2>gone through and probably into someone I cared about. All

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<v Speaker 2>five of us were packed tight behind our moving shield,

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<v Speaker 2>and I found that strange clarity I've only ever known

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<v Speaker 2>in riots. The world had always, it seemed, been against

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<v Speaker 2>me and my friends. These, though, were moments of me

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<v Speaker 2>and my friends against the world. I know that's bullshit

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<v Speaker 2>on a bunch of different levels. Hell, the people shooting

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<v Speaker 2>at us right now weren't even our enemies. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>shoot back even if I could, but our collective power

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<v Speaker 2>felt like its own magic. Just then, in the early morning,

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<v Speaker 2>in some small town in Montana, we'd picked up speed

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<v Speaker 2>and shouted our wordless power. We hit the street as

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<v Speaker 2>I'd guessed. The men trying to stop us moved out

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<v Speaker 2>of the way of the couple hundred pounds of steel

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<v Speaker 2>barreling toward them. They were still armed, though, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were in the open in the street, the library twenty

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<v Speaker 2>feet way. Another shot rang out, but it wasn't from

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<v Speaker 2>our assailants. Thursday had his gun out. He'd fired at

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<v Speaker 2>the ground by their feet. They bolted, taking cover behind cars.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd be returning fire any second. We sprinted for the library,

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday covering us, firing shots to keep our attackers behind cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Doomsday met us with the door open, and I dove through.

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<v Speaker 2>Bangs everywhere, loud ones and tinny ones and ones that

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<v Speaker 2>just went poof more than bang, and just way too

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<v Speaker 2>much gunfire everywhere. Thursday was pinned down behind the dumpster.

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<v Speaker 2>Bacillias drew his pistol aloft, but Doomsday snatched it out

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<v Speaker 2>of his hand and stepped aside, firing calmly. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think she was aiming to keep those guys pinned down.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she was aiming for the guys themselves. They ducked.

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday ran zigzag. A shot shattered the glass of a

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<v Speaker 2>window not a meter in front of him, but he

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<v Speaker 2>got in through the door, and Doomsday slammed it shut.

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<v Speaker 2>The firing stopped. I fucking hate gunfights. Dun, dun, dune.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's not really a cliff Well, it's a cliffhanger.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know what's gonna happen in chapter seven or

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<v Speaker 2>chapter eight, which is the number of chapters. There's eight chapters,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're six of them through. But they've made it through.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got the backpack that might have the book, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're back in the library and they're safe for now,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone's dead and dying and everything's complicated, and I

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<v Speaker 2>guess without Robert here. I should probably just talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the book a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the main things I think about rereading this

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<v Speaker 2>several years after it came out, and you know, many

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<v Speaker 2>years after I wrote it, I know a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>about guns than I did before. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>got anything of this particularly wrong, like long guns are

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<v Speaker 2>not particularly good for close combat, and dumpster steel is

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<v Speaker 2>probably not going to stop rifle rounds and all this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>But I keep calling everything a pistol, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even say what kind of gun it is. I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>lucky if I don't call it a clip instead of

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<v Speaker 2>a magazine at some point. And these things probably don't

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<v Speaker 2>really matter to the average reader at all, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>just funny to think about. I don't know, I like

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<v Speaker 2>this story. I'm glad to read it to you. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I should have more clever things to say

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<v Speaker 2>about it, because it's a book club and I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the books, but I wrote this one,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's complicated. This chapter is kind of where the

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<v Speaker 2>theme of the book that I was really going for

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<v Speaker 2>sort of starts to come into its own, which is

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<v Speaker 2>around the first book is really about, like the concept

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<v Speaker 2>of power right, And this idea of like summoning a

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<v Speaker 2>demon to stop people from taking power over other people,

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<v Speaker 2>and how that actually becomes exerting a sort of power

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<v Speaker 2>in and of itself and things like this, And this

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<v Speaker 2>one is probably fairly transparent, but it is much more

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<v Speaker 2>intentionally around feminism and around the kind of things that

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<v Speaker 2>people do for love, and in particular like heterosexual couple

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah blah blah, patriarchy, etc. You know, this

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<v Speaker 2>idea like, oh, you didn't bring her back for her,

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<v Speaker 2>you brought her back for you, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's like an entirely cynical take. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>slightly cynical take, obviously, you know. But I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that was the primary theme I was just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get across with this book. And it's not really up

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<v Speaker 2>to me to say whether or not I succeeded. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be more about all of that next week,

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<v Speaker 2>when you can hear the next chapter. Okay, bye everyone.

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