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Speaker 1: Oh, great time. I watch Steve Lasker goods times times

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Speaker 1: over time. I am at the end of the week.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, you're gonna afternoon. Welcome to one, Bill Slive,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steam Tasker. Hello, Steam Tasker. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing today? I'm doing good. Murvh how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for ready for the weekend in another

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Speaker 1: third hours? Yeah? Yeah, it's another weekend? Different now? Don't

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Speaker 1: I find it harder to breakfast from lunch let alone,

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Speaker 1: let alone Friday from Saturday and Sunday. Question, how many

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Speaker 1: times already today have you had to teak yourself today?

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Speaker 1: Is blank? Yeah? Couple? At least once a day, I

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Speaker 1: do that, right, Yeah, a couple of I've done it.

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Speaker 1: I've done it once. I did it once this morning,

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Speaker 1: actually it's kind of a big day here we are.

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Speaker 1: We're finishing yet quarantine. Our fourteen day quarantine was up

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Speaker 1: late yesterday last night. So today this evening, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get a chance to meet the twins the grandchildren for

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Speaker 1: we've spoken from like twenty feet away and then from

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Speaker 1: But I haven't you know, we haven't had any physical

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Speaker 1: they are? Yeah, about three weeks old. Yeah, Wow, that's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's something to look forward to. Yeah, they were born

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Speaker 1: there'll be a dinner tonight. At the other end of

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Speaker 1: the spectrum, I went to a social distanced birthday party

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Speaker 1: yesterday for my eighty nine year old father in law,

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Speaker 1: dad maybe has had maybe five glasses of wine in

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Speaker 1: There's no neither will I. I'm hoping to get to

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Speaker 1: three o'clock today. Yeah, me too, believe me. We got

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Speaker 1: a busy day to get there too. And coming up

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of this hour, Mike Reese, the ESPN

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Speaker 1: ESPN Nation reporter covering the New England Patriots, a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about their draft, their quarterback situation, losing Gronk

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Speaker 1: at twelve thirty. About one fifteen or so, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: with Bill's sixth round draft pick, Isaiah Hodgins. Got a

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Speaker 1: get her weekly contribution. She was right after Sean McDermot

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Speaker 1: been taking a lot about what Sean said yesterday, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I think is how he described it. The team's model.

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Speaker 1: for teams and people to have these days, I really do.

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Speaker 1: Just like he said there said there's a connection now

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Speaker 1: I guess that's no surprise, right, Stevie likes them all right? Everyone? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Allen don't have. I mean, I don't think they. You know,

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Speaker 1: Adam Gaze, is that the greatest head coach for Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold or whoever is their quarterback. But I do think

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Speaker 1: he has more pressure on him than Josh Allen. Our

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Speaker 1: pole is not reflecting that our poll says sixty eight

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Speaker 1: percent Josh Allen and twenty six percent Sam Darnald. I

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Speaker 1: don't agree. I don't think a little bit of the

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Speaker 1: sixty And you know, you always we always trying dice

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Speaker 1: at what people are thinking. Why the majority is what

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Speaker 1: it is. My opinion most Josh Allen. But you know

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Speaker 1: we're bills. We're a Bill's show, so it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Bills fans answer in this, and I think most Bills

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Speaker 1: fans are. They got some angst about whether Josh is

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Speaker 1: going to take another step forward. Wouldn't it you know,

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Speaker 1: sixty eight point four percent of wouldn't it be nice

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Speaker 1: if Josh completed sixty eight point four percent of his passes?

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, that's that's what we're asking for.

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Speaker 1: He's got sixty eight point four percent of the vote.

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Speaker 1: Let's take that as his completion percentage this year, and

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Speaker 1: I think all our problems are solved. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the tweet chief brought to by Cargan

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Speaker 1: Moving Systems, The official moved to the Buffalo Bills, which

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Speaker 1: AFC East quarterback is under the most pressure to succeed

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty from Adam. He says, I gotta go

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Speaker 1: with Tua, with all of us hype coming from college.

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Speaker 1: If he is not able to beat out a Wiley

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Speaker 1: vent like Fits, I'd say his futures in trouble with

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Speaker 1: a franchise that has mismanaged their quarterbacks in recent years.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, I disagree Adam. There's a chance that

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Speaker 1: to have barely plays this year, there's a chance the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins give him. We've talked about it, a red shirt year, Steve,

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Speaker 1: a red shirt rookie year to get healthy, number one,

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Speaker 1: and to learn the system and to watch how Fits

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Speaker 1: handles it. I can see that happen in Miami. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's much. I know, you know, he's a

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Speaker 1: he's a highly publicized guy, But I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's feeling a lot of pressure to it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're I think Brian Flores and and you know,

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Speaker 1: the GM and the owner, I think they're fine with

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Speaker 1: hoping to a forces the issue with how good he plays,

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Speaker 1: but they would love to have him sit for a year,

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Speaker 1: get his hip in place, you know, get his hip

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Speaker 1: healed one hundred percent, learn the verbiage, watch watch a

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Speaker 1: real pros pro in Ryan Fitzpatrick run the show. Learn

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Speaker 1: how to be a good team. May not that you know,

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Speaker 1: that may be his one of his strengths too, but

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Speaker 1: just learn it sitting down like Pat Mahomes did three

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Speaker 1: years ago. Just sit down, learn the game and then

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Speaker 1: attack it and with all with the force, you know,

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Speaker 1: with with everything he can next year or at the

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Speaker 1: very end of this year. You know, you watch for

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Speaker 1: twelve or fourteen games and a month or so being

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Speaker 1: the start or less of being the starting quarterback at

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Speaker 1: the end of this season, and see if you can

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Speaker 1: do it. And not that I think is much that

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Speaker 1: that is zero pressure. Um, I mean the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: aren't going to put that kind of pressure on two

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Speaker 1: attack of ye low he's he gets like, he's like,

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Speaker 1: you call it a red shirt. Um, so there's I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't think there's any pressure on those guys

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Speaker 1: in Miami. We also have somebody on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: which AFC quarterbacks under the most pressure in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: from Tiffany. For me, it's Darnald. He had a challenging season,

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Speaker 1: from battling Mono to seeing ghosts on the field, and

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Speaker 1: he struggled at times even against our reserves to end

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Speaker 1: the season. He wasn't sharp. In my opinion, his current

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Speaker 1: head coach is part of the problem. I have yet

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Speaker 1: to see Gays develop a successful quarterback. Well, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot in there, Murph, and it's it kind of echoes

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Speaker 1: what what you and I have been talking about for

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Speaker 1: the last five minutes. Um, Remember you can all remember Mono.

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Speaker 1: He had Mono. Darnald had Mono last year and then

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Speaker 1: he came back and remember the Monday night game when

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Speaker 1: they had him miked up and he said, Man, I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing ghosts. That was when he was playing in New England. Correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he's not alone. I mean that people have been

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Speaker 1: seeing ghosts playing. I think there's so much made of

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Speaker 1: that by people who don't understand it. They took that

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Speaker 1: out of context. He wasn't seeing ghosts. He was he

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Speaker 1: thought he was seeing defenses that he wasn't seeing. Right.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's exactly right. But it's it's not a

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Speaker 1: good look. And plus you're right. Adam Gase got a

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Speaker 1: strong recommendation from Peyton Manning to get the Jet job

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Speaker 1: from what I understand, and he didn't develop Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: He coached Peyton Manning in years fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and

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Speaker 1: eighteen in Denver, and he didn't develop Peyton Manning. And

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was a fully formed franchise Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: quarterback when Adam Gase walked into the picture. Now, Manning

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Speaker 1: probably liked him. They probably got some good things, and

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Speaker 1: he probably bounced some really good ideas off him, and

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Speaker 1: he stimulated Manning to the point where he got some

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Speaker 1: good production out of him. But he didn't develop Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: So and by the way, he didn't do much good

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Speaker 1: for Ryan Tannehill in Miami, No, he didn't. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Tannehill got better when he went to Tennessee. Yeah, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's so. I show. This has always been another I

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Speaker 1: like Adam Gase. I like him a lot, but this

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Speaker 1: is a This is illustration of how much pressure there

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Speaker 1: is on the Jets. This year. They spent all that

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Speaker 1: money on Levion Bell, didn't get any any return for it.

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Speaker 1: Now he's got to come back and see if he

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Speaker 1: can do it. They gotta help him. They got They

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Speaker 1: upgraded the offensive line this offseason, or so at least

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Speaker 1: they say they have, and they probably have. Um all

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Speaker 1: of that stuff is on the table. They've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of things going on in the Jets. Remember when

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Speaker 1: they drafted, when they drafted Sam Darnell and the Bills

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Speaker 1: drafted Josh Shale, and we said this a ton that offseason.

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Speaker 1: Those two teams twelve months ago were on the exact

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Speaker 1: same trajectory. The Bills signed free agents like Cole Beasley,

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Speaker 1: John Brown and the year before and the years before that,

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Speaker 1: it was Micah Hyde and Jordan Pourier. None of those

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Speaker 1: guys were household names. Maybe maybe you know, because he

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Speaker 1: played for the Dallas Cowboys. Maybe Cole Beasley. Everybody knew

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Speaker 1: about him. But they didn't break the bank given it,

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Speaker 1: and they gave him a good contract. The Jets go

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Speaker 1: out and spend fourteen million bucks on Levion Bell. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they got the bright shiny object on the shelf right

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Speaker 1: and spent a lot of money to get it. They

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Speaker 1: took a different philosophical approach to free agency, and the

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Speaker 1: Bills go to the playoffs and the Jets did not.

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Speaker 1: So the Jets are trying to fight out of that.

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Speaker 1: And now they're trying to go back and reduce some

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Speaker 1: of the things they left lacking when they were spending

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Speaker 1: their money on all the other stuff. Good for them,

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Speaker 1: God bless him. Not really, they blew it. I think

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Speaker 1: they're behind the Bills because of that. You're just being quiet,

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00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: you're just loving, loving it when I sit here and

552
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: talk bad about the Jets, and I don't like the Jets,

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Speaker 1: my least favorite team in the league. All right, we

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Speaker 1: got a break here. We're gonna talk about another team

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Speaker 1: that's not on my list of favorites, doing the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Mike Greece is the ESPN NFL Nation reporter covering the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: He'll join us next to talk about their draft. And

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Speaker 1: we're there at these days. Mike Greece coming up next

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Speaker 1: year on the show. We're just getting started this Friday,

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Klatta Health, Working from Home

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Speaker 1: today Radio only Today. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show, One the Bills Blot, John Murphy's

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Speaker 1: Team Task. You're joined on the line right now by

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Speaker 1: ESPN Nation Patriots beat reporter. He's covered that team since

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven. Happy to have Mike Geese down the

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Speaker 1: line with us. Hello, Mike Greece, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: Hey John? Hey Steve how are you guys doing today? Good?

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for coming on. Everybody's healthy and

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Speaker 1: good to go your place. Everything's cool, Everyone's healthy and

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Speaker 1: doing well. I would say we have a fifth grader

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Speaker 1: and a second grader in the house, and so you know,

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Speaker 1: navigating their education and all the activities around the Patriots

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Speaker 1: this offseason has been a true juggling act. But I

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Speaker 1: think we're most appreciative of our health and hopefully the

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Speaker 1: same for both of you, your families and all the

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Speaker 1: listeners out there as well. Yeah, everybody doing great. Mike,

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Speaker 1: you have a new potential Patriots source. Now you got

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Speaker 1: to interview Bill Belichick's dog, Nike from here on out right?

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Speaker 1: About graft picks? How about that? I mean, I really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the draft and the way that whole thing went down,

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Speaker 1: and I think that was a great example of how

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Speaker 1: we saw the human side of many people around the league.

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Speaker 1: You know that we wouldn't have seen otherwise. But Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick probably near the top of the list in that regard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would be I kind of thought he was a

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Speaker 1: human being, but we here in Western New York had

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Speaker 1: are Now. I gotta ask you, coming out after the draft,

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Speaker 1: it's they said that perhaps it was not by design

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Speaker 1: that they did not take a quarterback, meaning they were

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Speaker 1: in the market if the right guy got to them.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of all of that and the

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Speaker 1: fact that you know, Jared Stidham looks like the find

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Speaker 1: the guy that's standing up out of whatever they're going

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Speaker 1: to do any quarterback. Yeah, Steve, it was interesting to

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Speaker 1: me the way it unfolded, And once three of the

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Speaker 1: top quarterbacks went in the top six picks, it sort

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Speaker 1: of changed the conversation at quarterback for the Patriots in

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Speaker 1: the draft. And I boiled it down to their sitting

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Speaker 1: there at number twenty three, and they have a chance

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Speaker 1: to take Jordan Love if they had conviction that Love

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Speaker 1: was their guy, sort of like the Packers had conviction

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Speaker 1: to go up and trade for Jordan Love a few

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Speaker 1: picks later, and they didn't. And I view that as

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Speaker 1: a moment of truth for Jared Stidham relative to how

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Speaker 1: you know Jordan Love. Basically you know that that one team,

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Speaker 1: the Packers viewed Jordan Love as a potential franchise guy.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots didn't, which in turn tells you, like we

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Speaker 1: feel Jared's Didham is a better option for us, And

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Speaker 1: that's the way I view that. And so now, to me,

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Speaker 1: every decision that the Patriots going to make is how

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Speaker 1: to best put Jared's Didham in a position to succeed.

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Speaker 1: Is there an opportunity for another edition maybe from the

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Speaker 1: free agent from the free agent ranks, say Cam Newton,

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Speaker 1: Andy dun somebody like that, Mike, or do you think

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Speaker 1: that's not going to happen? Well, I don't think it

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Speaker 1: would happen. And now Bill Belichick is always unpredictable, and

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Speaker 1: he always says will make the decisions that we feel

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Speaker 1: like our best for the team. But I'll tell you why,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would happen. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: think part of it is like you got no practice

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Speaker 1: time on the field, right, so it's all virtual learning.

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Speaker 1: And so to bring someone in that you know one

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Speaker 1: has no background in your system and two really has

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Speaker 1: no an action to the people that are going to

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Speaker 1: be throwing the football too, Like, I think that changes

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Speaker 1: the whole dynamic when you're talking about adding someone. And

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Speaker 1: then there's the whole idea of like you want to

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Speaker 1: give Jared Stidham a chance to show his command, and

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Speaker 1: let's say you bring in a Cam Newton or an

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, like how does that decision affect that dynamic?

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Speaker 1: And like John Steve like I always like Steve just

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Speaker 1: you can speak to this better than anyone because you've

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Speaker 1: actually been in the locker room. Like it's when we

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Speaker 1: talk about it on the surface, well, why why wouldn't

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Speaker 1: they bring in a player like it would add another

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Speaker 1: talented layer to the room. But there's so much more

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Speaker 1: to it than that, right when you're putting a team

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Speaker 1: together and trying to best position the players on that

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Speaker 1: team for success. Yeah, I think that's a great point, Mike,

640
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Speaker 1: because you want the quarterback to be a leader. You've

641
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: you've brought Stidham or kept Stidham around because you saw

642
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: something in him and he has watched, you know, Tom

643
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Bray do it the right way. And then to have

644
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Speaker 1: another quarterback, say like a Cam Newton with a strong

645
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: personality and all the things that he brings to the table,

646
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Speaker 1: wouldn't that undermine the work that you've had Stidham do

647
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: with the quarterback that everybody wants him to be like

648
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Speaker 1: in Tom Brady, wouldn't that undermine that if he was

649
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: influenced by a guy like Cam Newton or Andy Dalton

650
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: for that matter, who came in and took his job

651
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Speaker 1: and they became the leader of the team. Do you

652
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Speaker 1: want him to be like Andy Dalton, Cam Newton or

653
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady? I think Tom Brady wins that right And

654
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Speaker 1: and then you know, like to take it one step

655
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Speaker 1: further if you have Brian Hoyer as the veteran backup,

656
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Speaker 1: and it's almost like the right fit because Brian is

657
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: a true pro, Like he started thirty eight career games,

658
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: and you sort of know what he is, right, Like,

659
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Speaker 1: he's probably not the player that you would want to

660
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Speaker 1: start a whole season for you, but if you need

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Speaker 1: to rely on him if something goes in the wrong direction,

662
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: like he's shown that he can operate the huddle and

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Speaker 1: play fairly effectively. But he's also so he's gonna push

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Speaker 1: Jared's did him but also support him if that makes sense,

665
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Speaker 1: Like he knows his role. And I think that's an

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Speaker 1: important part of this discussion for the Patriots. Mike PRECSPN

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Speaker 1: reporter covering the Patriots on the line with us, So

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Speaker 1: the question becomes, Mike, how much can they win with

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Speaker 1: Jared's did him a quarterback? What do you think? Oh wow?

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Speaker 1: And This is why it's so compelling, John, right, like

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Speaker 1: with this team, which we haven't had this for two decades,

672
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Speaker 1: and why I would think in Western New York people

673
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: got to be excited, like is this gonna see you know,

674
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: is the bottom gonna fall out finally? Right for the Patriots?

675
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: It and it might and it might not. And I

676
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: look at it like, we can go back to two

677
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: thousand and eight when they were without Tom Brady and

678
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: they had Matt Castle and they still won eleven games.

679
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: They didn't win the division that year, but they still

680
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: won eleven games. And even at the start of twenty sixteen,

681
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Speaker 1: when Tom Brady wasn't there for the f four games

682
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: serving that NFL suspension, they went three and one with

683
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacobe Brissette. So you know, I could

684
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Speaker 1: see it going in either direction. But I do think

685
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Speaker 1: that the ceiling is a little lower now than it

686
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Speaker 1: had been with Tom. So to me, I wouldn't be

687
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Speaker 1: surprised anywhere between the seven to ten range for wins

688
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Speaker 1: and whether that's good enough to get where they want

689
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Speaker 1: to go, you know, we'll just have to wait and

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Speaker 1: see and find out. Yeah, it was really it was common.

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Speaker 1: It was a common occurrence. I think, whether by whether

692
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Speaker 1: it was right or wrong, people were critical to Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady last year because he didn't look like Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: And I've always said that great quarterbacks at the end

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Speaker 1: of their career, it's not fair to compare them to

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Speaker 1: how they were ten years before, but compare them to

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Speaker 1: everybody else in the league. Tom Brady won twelve games

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Speaker 1: last year? Or help the Patriots win twelve games with

699
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: zero help at wide receiver except for one guy, and

700
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Speaker 1: that was that was Edelman. You know he had you know,

701
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: nikkil Harry was hurt most of the year, so he

702
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: had no help on that side of the ball. Yet

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Speaker 1: they won twelve games. How good does Jared Stidham have

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Speaker 1: to be? And my question is what if Jared Stidham

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Speaker 1: and I said this earlier in our show, if he

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Speaker 1: has the same statistical line as Tom Brady did a

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Speaker 1: year ago and Tom Brady was criticized for that, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Jared Stidham be praised for it? Yeah? He would. And

709
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Speaker 1: it speaks to expectations, right, Like, we have a full

710
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Speaker 1: body of work from Tom Brady over the years, and

711
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Speaker 1: really we're dealing with a blank canvas in a lot

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Speaker 1: of respects with Jared Stidham and Steve. I think I

713
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Speaker 1: look at it this way, is like they're almost going

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Speaker 1: back to two thousand and one, and when we think

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Speaker 1: about what the Patriots were when Tom Brady was going

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Speaker 1: into his second year, that's really where Jared Stidham is

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Speaker 1: right now. And when I think about that team in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and one, like Tom Brady wasn't the star

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Speaker 1: of that team. That was a team led by the defense,

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Speaker 1: with like Ty Law, Richard Seymour, Roman Pifer, Ted Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Willie McGinnis. They played really well in the kicking game.

722
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Speaker 1: You know, they had Adam Vinetari as the kicker, and

723
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Speaker 1: they won games because of special teams, which Steve like,

724
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: that's a huge part of this game, right. I mean,

725
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: no one knows that better than you. And then offensively,

726
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: they were a physical offense, but it was modest, like

727
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Speaker 1: they ran the ball with Antoine Smith's former bill and

728
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of explosive weapons, but they

729
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: sort of played complimentary football. I think that's what that

730
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Speaker 1: would be the formula if they're going to succeed, that

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Speaker 1: they would have to go back to as they sort

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Speaker 1: of break Jarretts did him in Live with Mike Grease,

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Speaker 1: ESPN reporter covering the Patriots. When you look at the

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Speaker 1: Patriots draft last week, Mike, it appears, you know, well,

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Speaker 1: they went defense right first three picks they went, and

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Speaker 1: almost like they went for a certain type of defense,

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Speaker 1: like they're gearing up to stop maybe the kind of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that they face now, you know, more mobile, have

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Speaker 1: a new age quarterbacks. To say, I really, I think

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Speaker 1: that's a great point, John, And so their first pick,

741
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Speaker 1: they trade it out of the first round. They go

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Speaker 1: to the top of the second round and they take

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Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger, a Division two safety out of Lenore Rhyne.

744
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Speaker 1: And he's six foot one, almost two hundred twenty pounds,

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Speaker 1: So think about him from a standpoint of like almost

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Speaker 1: like safety linebacker type. And the Patriots play five defensive

747
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: backs as much, if not more than any team in

748
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Speaker 1: the league. We know that's sort of the New Bakes

749
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Speaker 1: defense for most teams, but they like to run a

750
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Speaker 1: lot of three safety stuff, and so take him with

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00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: Josh Uch their other second round pick later in the round,

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Speaker 1: number sixty. Overall, he's a six foot one, two hundred

753
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Speaker 1: forty five pound linebacker. So a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: hybrid between like and you know, an edge rusher in

755
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: sub but maybe probably be off the line linebacker, you know,

756
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: in an early own situations. So these guys can run,

757
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: they're fast, they're explosive, and you think about trying to

758
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: get through Patrick Mahomes or get through Lamar Jackson or

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00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: you know, like to apply it to the Bills, I

760
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: mean Josh Allen, the way he moves around. You want

761
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: to have guys that can move around the field, and

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Speaker 1: those two certainly qualify. Where do you think that give

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Speaker 1: us a little overview of where the Patriots draft? I

764
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: mean the Patriots roster is. I mean, particularly on the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, and they didn't have those wide receivers last year.

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Speaker 1: They tried. It wasn't for lack of trying. Antonio Brown

767
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: came in. They traded for Mohammed Sanu. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Josh Josh ye Josh. Yeah. They had Yeah, they had Gordon,

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Speaker 1: Josh Gordon had to he left, so they had some weapons,

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Speaker 1: but you know they all flamed out. Now they're stuck,

771
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Speaker 1: not stuck, but they have Julian Edelman, Nikil Harry, Mohammed

772
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Speaker 1: Sanu and Marquis Lee at the top of the list,

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Speaker 1: how do you think those guys are gonna shake out?

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Speaker 1: So one of the interesting things here, Steve, is that

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Speaker 1: like Tom Brady, as he sort of kept going through

776
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: the system and the years piled up on each other,

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Speaker 1: he had this tremendous volume, you know, as the quarterback

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Speaker 1: that he was sort of tapping into over nineteen twenty

779
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Speaker 1: years in the system. And what I noticed, and it

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Speaker 1: was hard to miss for most people, is like the

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Speaker 1: young receivers that would come in like nikkil Harry and

782
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Speaker 1: Jacobe Meyer's last year, Like they're like at the intro

783
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Speaker 1: level of NFL offense and they're trying to keep up

784
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Speaker 1: with the PhD you know of offense in Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: And so what's going to be interesting to watch is like,

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Speaker 1: how does the fact that now you're going to probably

787
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Speaker 1: have Jared Stidham at quarterback where he's closer to the

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Speaker 1: level of these younger receivers in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 1: knowledge of the offense, mastery of the offense, Like, does

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Speaker 1: that actually help, you know, bring out more from the

791
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Speaker 1: younger receivers who maybe were struggling to bridge the gap

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Speaker 1: with Tom. I think that's a that's an important storyline

793
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: for the Patriots, and personnel wise, you know, they know

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Speaker 1: they can count on Julian Edelman, Mohammed Sanu. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: they traded a second rounder for him last year, so

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Speaker 1: they're gonna they definitely want to bring him back and

797
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Speaker 1: see if they can get more out of that investment.

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Speaker 1: So you have those two, and then they need nikkil Harry,

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Speaker 1: their first round pick last year, to start to play,

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Speaker 1: you know, like a first round pick with good health.

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Speaker 1: They hope that would happen in Demere Bird is one

802
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: name I wouldn't overlook. They signed him as a free

803
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: agent from the Arizona Cardinals last year. Prior to that,

804
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: he was with the Carolina Panthers, and he's sort of

805
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Speaker 1: a speed guy who projects to be like their new

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Speaker 1: Philip Door set with Mike Races, ESPN, NFL Nation reporter

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Speaker 1: covering the Patriots, Mike, I just wonder what the reaction

808
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Speaker 1: is in New England to the departure of Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: and the return of Rob Gronkowski with Tampa Bay. The

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Speaker 1: people view that as a repudiation of Bill Belichick's system,

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Speaker 1: They wanted to get away from Belichick or how is

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Speaker 1: that being viewed there? I would start with a period

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Speaker 1: of mourning. John like in mourning it has been raining

814
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Speaker 1: quite a bit this month. I think those are reflective

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Speaker 1: of a lot of tears that were shed by many

816
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: it hurts, it's gonna hurt to see Tom Brady in

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Speaker 1: another uniform, So I would start there. I think that

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Speaker 1: one is sort of independent. I think the Rob Gunkowski one,

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Speaker 1: because he had retired last year. I think many people

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Speaker 1: never really factored him into the mix for them this year,

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Speaker 1: So I think that one's a little bit different. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was maybe like, oh, first you're gonna tell me Tom,

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Speaker 1: and now Rob, like, is this sort of a double

825
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: gut punch if you will. But I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: at the same level of Brady. And as for them leaving,

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Speaker 1: I think there's two different reasons. I mean, there were

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Speaker 1: two different factors Bill Bill Belichick himself will acknowledge like

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Speaker 1: I'm a hard coach to play for. It's the systems

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Speaker 1: a grind, and after twenty years, I do think if

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Speaker 1: people step back, they can look at it and say, wow,

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Speaker 1: you know, if Tom wants to try something different, like

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00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: it's more about that than repudiation of like that something's

834
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Speaker 1: wrong here. It's just that he wants to see football

835
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Speaker 1: from a different perspective. So I think that can be

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Speaker 1: reconciled from those in the region and Gronkowski, you know,

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Speaker 1: to me, that was tied more to Brady. You know,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't going to play anywhere, you know, unless wherever

839
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Speaker 1: Brady was, so it was going to be one team

840
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Speaker 1: left than it opened the door because I think Gronkowski

841
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Speaker 1: had acknowledged, like, the environment here was just he couldn't

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Speaker 1: come back to this. So I don't think it's as

843
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Speaker 1: much about Belichick as as just sort of the honest truth,

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Speaker 1: which is it is a hard, grinding environment, which Belichick

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Speaker 1: himself is the first to say, Yeah, well they got

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Speaker 1: a lot to show for that grinding. Hey, Mike, thanks

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Speaker 1: very much for coming on with us today. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Mike, I really appreciate it. Guys, have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Mike Greece. ESPN Nation Patriots great reporters covered that

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Speaker 1: team since nineteen ninety seven. Will Take a Break Him

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Speaker 1: or Coming Back One goes Live presented by Callaida Health.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome mat Chum Murphy Team

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Speaker 1: Tasker One does Live presented by Klaida Health, coming here

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Speaker 1: from our home Today Radio Only. Today, we are not

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Speaker 1: in the Seneca studio. Maybe we'll get back there someday.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you think, Steve, I think

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Speaker 1: that'd be a good twitterful. What are the odds of

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Speaker 1: us never doing a show again at Studio No. Zero?

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Speaker 1: You think we will? Oh? Yeah, okay, man, Okay, you

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Speaker 1: know football season is going to roll around. We'll be

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Speaker 1: in the studio watching practice once in a while. I'll

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Speaker 1: be great. Okay. Hey, there's all kinds of talk these

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Speaker 1: days about what the NFL schedule might look like. The

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Speaker 1: schedule is supposed to come out next week, and nobody

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Speaker 1: quite knows what it it'll look like. I mean, the league.

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Speaker 1: The league officials have said, yes, we're gonna start the

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Speaker 1: regular week, which would be like September thirteenth, I think

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Speaker 1: is the Sunday the Thursday before then, And yes we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a sixteen game schedule, that's what they're saying. Now,

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Speaker 1: we'll see if they come through that, Steve. But there's

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Speaker 1: all kinds of speculation. What ahead, what do you think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna bring they're gonna release the schedule

873
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: exactly like they always do, except it's gonna be in

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Speaker 1: May May ninth instead of like April twentieth or week Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe before me ninth, I think, right, yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be yeah, I'll probably that May ninth is a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a week from tomorrow. They will not

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Speaker 1: release it on a weekend. It'll be like on the

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Speaker 1: fifth or sixth. But anyway, they they're gonna release it

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Speaker 1: like normal. It's gonna start on September thirteenth. It's gonna

881
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Speaker 1: have four preseason games. It's gonna have the Hall of

882
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Speaker 1: Fame ceremonies in there, the Hall of Fame game, it's

883
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Speaker 1: gonna have all of that stuff. It's gonna have bye weeks,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be just it's gonna look like, for

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Speaker 1: the most part, a normal schedule. They're not gonna change.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna have bye weeks for example.

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Speaker 1: There's one theory that they're not gonna have bye weeks. No, No,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have this schedule. Here's my call, and I

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00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: don't know anything from anything, but here's my opinion. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna come out with this just like if it was

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Speaker 1: there was nothing else us going on. No, no pandemic,

892
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: no nothing. It's just like every other year. They'll change

893
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Speaker 1: only when somebody like the pandemic or whatever has got

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Speaker 1: their arm twisted behind their back. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: change anything until that happens. Until they are absolutely forced

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Speaker 1: to change something, they're gonna keep rolling along just like normal,

897
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Speaker 1: because it they end up, it's murph. It's like a big,

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Speaker 1: you know, three million ton oil tanker going full steam ahead.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't stop on a dime. And once they start

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Speaker 1: changing things, there's a ripple effect all the way across

901
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Speaker 1: the league and some it's easy for some people to

902
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Speaker 1: change it, and then it's it's impossible for others. So

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Speaker 1: they don't want to change anything about the institution just yet.

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Speaker 1: They won't do it until they're forced to. So this,

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Speaker 1: I'll bet you. I don't want to bet, but I'm

906
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Speaker 1: telling you my opinion is they're not. This schedule is

907
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Speaker 1: gonna look exactly like every other schedule that we've seen.

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Speaker 1: They'll only change when they have Yeah, I agree, they'll

909
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Speaker 1: come out with something next week that looks like a

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Speaker 1: sixteen game schedule over seventeen weeks, but by weeks everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but who knows how long that'll that'll be applicable for it.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, things could change, right, Oh, it could change,

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Speaker 1: like you know, May fifteenth, it could come out with

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Speaker 1: a different one. You know, that's the way it is.

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Speaker 1: But they won't until they have to, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can we can understand that there's so much that

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Speaker 1: has to happen between you know, through May, June, July

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Speaker 1: and August for them to be forced to make any

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Speaker 1: kind of changes, substantial changes. Now there's this there was

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Speaker 1: a report in Bleacher Report that if they have to

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Speaker 1: shorten things up, you know, wait till October fifteenth or

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Speaker 1: so to start the season. Let's say that they would

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Speaker 1: consider playing games on Saturday as well as Sunday. This

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Speaker 1: is a report in the New York Post. They've had

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Speaker 1: preliminary discussions with their broadcast partners. The league has about

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Speaker 1: the potential for standalone Saturday games, which would only happen

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Speaker 1: if there's no college football to compete for television viewers.

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Speaker 1: That'd be huge. And first of all, no college football

929
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: is going to be really huge. I mean, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about the foundation of most athletic programs in most big

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Speaker 1: schools is football and if you take away that foundation,

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Speaker 1: and you may have to, that's going to have a

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Speaker 1: big impact. But the NFL might have a Saturday game.

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Speaker 1: They won't release that next week when the Star comes out,

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Speaker 1: but they want to have flexibility in case the additional

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Speaker 1: TV windows become available. What do you think of that, Steve? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if there's a if there's a a window for the

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Speaker 1: league to do the Saturday thing, they will no question

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Speaker 1: about it. And the league the NFL obviously. And it's

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00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: interesting how could that? Why would there be pro football

941
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Speaker 1: and not college football? Well, college is different, I mean

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Speaker 1: college football because it's college. They have the consideration of

943
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: can we just have football and not have classes? Can

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Speaker 1: we not have students on campus except for these student athletes?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, that would be a little weird. I

946
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Speaker 1: think that's I think that's the major distinction between the two, right, Yeah,

947
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: except there is also a major similar there too. We

948
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: mean what football makes money? Right? Well? Then, I mean

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00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you can say what you want.

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Speaker 1: You don't think you don't let me just just pick

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Speaker 1: one out of a hat. You don't think Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: football would kind of like to have that kind of

953
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: cash rolling in with their TV rights. The SEC. You

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00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: got Mississippi State where and some of these like you

955
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: need an expired phishing license to get in and get

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00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: accepted as a student. You don't think they care about it?

957
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: They don't. You don't think they care more about the

958
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: little the cash that the SEC money. Sure they do,

959
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure they do. Are they willing to Are they

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00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: willing to shed the pretense of we are a college

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00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: here and we happen to have a football team and

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Speaker 1: their student athletes. I mean, that would be over right

963
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: if they did that. If the college football program said,

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Speaker 1: are all of our students are not attending classes except

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00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: for the one so players who have football you know

966
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: and their resume? No, you can't. I don't know if

967
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: they can do that, they can, it would be you'd laugh.

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00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: But this is a conversation all by itself right here.

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00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: What institutions would and what institutions would not. The IVY

970
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: League has proven it would probably not because they don't

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00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: even have postseason and all that. I mean, they are

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00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: strictly student athletes. They don't give scholarships, give nothing, so

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Speaker 1: that they would probably not, or maybe they would be

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00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: the only ones who could make the pretense of saying yeah,

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00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: we can. But the simple fact the matter is IVY

976
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: League's not making any money off of their football program none,

977
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Speaker 1: and the SEC is making how many hundreds of millions

978
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: of dollars literally it is, So you're that's a real

979
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: question right there. That's a real question. Does the SEC

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00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: go on with the SEC network televise its games without fans? Well,

981
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if without fans. How about without students

982
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: in school? That's a even bigger question. Yeah, can you

983
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: have a college football program at Alabama while no Alabama

984
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: students are attending classes? That is the question. That's what

985
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: the college football the major schools would have to decide.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, Murph. When I was a student at

987
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: Northwestern University, Northwestern was the only school in the Big

988
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: Ten that was on the trimester semester program where you'd

989
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: go to twelve weeks of classes or ten weeks of

990
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 1: classes before Christmas, then after Christmas you'd go another another,

991
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, nine or twelve week semester, and then a

992
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: third one through the summer. So we only we didn't

993
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: have two semesters of college. We had three semesters or

994
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: four semesters. We had one in the summer as well

995
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: for summer students. When the football season began, Northwestern would

996
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: come in as a football team and we would practice

997
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: and play games with school was not in session because

998
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: they didn't start till late because they went further deeper

999
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: into the summer than the other schools did. But because

1000
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: of the trimester system, we didn't start our classes until

1001
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: late September so or mid septembers, so we had two

1002
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: We had two or three games and training camp and

1003
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: everything before classes were even in session. So it's not

1004
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: unprecedented for schools like in that situation to be in that,

1005
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: you know, to have that scenario where you've got a

1006
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: football program going with no classes in session. ESPN at

1007
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: a report out the other day they talked with several

1008
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: conference commissioners in college sports who said the most important

1009
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: factor is determining whether it's safe to reopen campuses before

1010
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: the fall semester. Danny White Membraham, former you Be athletic

1011
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: director now at Central Florida. He's quota is saying there

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00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: is not a model I can run to fix the

1013
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: problem of not having any football I don't think there's

1014
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: anybody in my position with a big football fan base

1015
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: that could make decisions to fix that, I don't know

1016
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: what happens. There's not a model, he says. There's not

1017
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: a solution. There's not an action I can take that's

1018
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: going to solve that problem. So that's the kind of

1019
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: dire circumstances that these big football programs are in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Murph, I agree with you. We're

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00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: gonna take a break One Bills Live. We're gonna take

1022
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: a break, go to the top of the air. When

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00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna be joined by Isaiah

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00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: Hodgens just after the top of the hour. This is

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00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: One Bills Live coming to you from our homes on

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00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,719
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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio, Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Sports Update. The updates from One Bills

1029
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: im Bill said. Coach Sean McDermot says the team's model

1030
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: this offseason is find a way. McDermot does not want

1031
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: the challenges created by the pandemic to provide an excuse

1032
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: for his team to stop getting better in the coming months.

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00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: He made that announcement yesterday meeting with the media after

1034
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: appearing on One Bills Live yesterday afternoon. Several teams continue

1035
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: to conduct their offseason program around the NFL due to

1036
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 1: the pandemic, but it comes as no surprise the league

1037
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: has made changes to its Spring League meeting. Originally, it

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00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: was scheduled for May nineteenth through the twentieth in the

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00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: Los Angeles area. It will now be held virtually according

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00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: to the NFL Network. Changes come a week after the

1041
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, who was conducted entirely remotely. Dolphins agreed to

1042
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: trade addresser Charles Harris to the Atlanta Falcons or a

1043
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one seventh round picked. The team announced he

1044
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: was Harris was a first round pick out of Missouri

1045
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen by the Dolphins. He had three and

1046
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: a half sacks over forty one games. Broncos linebacker Von

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00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: Miller tweeted yesterday he is negative for the virus, two

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Speaker 1: weeks after announcing he had been diagnosed with it. April sixteenth,

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00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: Miller announced his diagnosis, saying he went public to emphasize

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00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: that anyone can be afflicted with the virus. He was

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00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: under the care of Broncos doctors and remained in isolation

1052
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: in the area. Miller's an eight time Pro Bowl selection,

1053
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: and the sudden disappearance of sports will erase at least

1054
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: twelve billion dollars in revenue and hundreds of thousands of jobs,

1055
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Speaker 1: an economic tastrophe that will more than double if the

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Speaker 1: college football and NFL schedules are wiped out this fall

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Speaker 1: by the pandemic. That's what an analysis by ESPN shows.

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Speaker 1: The meltdown is a fraction of the crisis spreading across

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00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: the country, but it is nevertheless historic, touching every sector

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00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: of the sports industry, from stadium authorities to youth sports complexes.

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00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: The stakes become even higher if part or all of

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00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: the NFL and college football seasons are lost. Each NFL

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00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: regular season game is worth nearly twenty four million dollars

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00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: in revenue from TV rights alone, a figure in larger

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00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: than the budget for some Hollywood films. And there you go.

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Speaker 1: That is the update. Steve Tasker. I thought i'd leave

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00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: you with that good news. That's good stuff, Just a

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00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: kind of nugget I need on a Friday. Isn't that amazing?

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00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: A couple of things amaze me about that. It's an

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00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: ESPN report. You should read it if you get a chance.

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00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: The cancelation of the of an NFL game. TV rights

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00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: accounts for like twenty four million dollars in revenue, more

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00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: than most more than many Hollywood production, you know, Hollywood

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00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: movies produced. I mean, that's amazing the economic impact that

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00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: one game we'd have, and multiply it by what two

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00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty six? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Lee, Yeah,

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00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: it's big. And that's why that's why they're not They're

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00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: not moving man, They're not gonna They're gonna plow ahead.

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00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna give us a sixteen game schedule with bi weeks,

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00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: gonna start on time, finish on time, and they are

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00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: not gonna get off it until something prize them off

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00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: it because they are not giving up any cash. And

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00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's just it's it's gonna

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00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: plow ahead. Yeah, they're gonna make it. They're gonna make

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00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: a TV show, right, They're gonna make it a TV

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00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 1: show for everybody. Yeah yeah, And I can't believe it,

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00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: And I guess that's all right. Um, it'll be different though.

1088
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: If they don't have that's maybe the decision the league

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00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: and the people running the league have to make. Do

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00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: we move ahead? And provide these TV shows without fans

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00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: in the stands, right, or with reduced seating, with reduced attendance.

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00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's gonna be a difficult call. I think, Steve, Well,

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00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I mean, the crowd certainly makes it

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00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: a more interesting program, But I don't know if that

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00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: changes anything in the contract with a broadcast partner. You're

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00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: you're providing, you know, and there's extenuating circumstances, and and

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00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: you're the and the team is the one giving up

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00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: the revenue. You know, the broadcast partners are going to

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00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: get better ratings if there's nobody in the stands, because

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00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: there's all those people that would have paid to go

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00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: there are gonna watch it on TV anyway. Um, So

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00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: I you know, it shouldn't be any skin off the

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00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: broadcast partner. They don't care if any there are any

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00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: fans in the stands or not. It just means more

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00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: fans on their side of the of the business deal.

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00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: And it's the team that's given up the ticket money. Yeah,

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00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing I could say that that

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00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: would be they would have to look the only way

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00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: the league would give up money to the television networks

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00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: is if um, if the ratings go down, and as

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00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: you point out, there are reasons to believe the ratings

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00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: would go up, but if interest falls, if interest lags,

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00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: if people you know, I can't go to the game,

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00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 1: I don't care anymore. If something like that happens, maybe

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00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: they'd have to give up money, but no, they can

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00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: get by what do we say we have the staff

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00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, seventy five percent of NFL

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00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: teams revenues are television right, eighty five eighty five? Fifteen

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00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: percent of the revenues are from ticket sales. No, I

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Speaker 1: think it was seventy five fifteen and the rest, which

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00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: would be uh percent, would be you know, merchandise had said,

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00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: got you Yeah, I think it was fifteen percent ticket revenue,

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00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: eighty five percent or seventy five percent television ratings. So

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00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: then get bye with is the TV ratings at least

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Speaker 1: for a year. It wouldn't be interesting to see what's

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00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: at They would get a boost right off the bat

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00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: because everybody's like, you know, everybody's ready for live sports again,

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Speaker 1: and I don't you know, and this is you know,

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00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna be you know, if

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00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna have gotten their thirst quenched by more NBA

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00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: games coming back on TV without fans, or hockey games

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00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 1: coming back on without fans, or whatever their appetite has been,

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00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: or whatever they're you know, whatever drought they've been on.

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00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna get a boost because people are gonna be

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00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: curious to see the games on either with or without

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00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: without fans, and then they'll get another boost when the

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00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: fans are allowed back in. If at all this season,

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00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: people want to see a game where and people want

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00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: to and people want to be there once they you know,

1140
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 1: they'll feel if they feel safe, if they feel like, yeah,

1141
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: this pandemic things weigh in the rearview mirror. Let's go.

1142
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be It's gonna be quite mis seen, and

1143
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: people will want to see that from a distance as well.

1144
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: Even if they're not the ones who want to buy tickets,

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00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: they'll certainly want to see it. So there'll be a

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00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: couple of you know, both at the beginning and both

1147
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: at the end. There, you know, the TV people will

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00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: get a huge boost in ratings because of that. I

1149
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 1: would think, yeah, we'll see nobody knows, we'll see next week.

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00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: We would think the schedules coming out is Steve said,

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00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: and I believe them. I agree with this. It's going

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00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: to be a sixteen game regular looking regular season schedule,

1153
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: whether or not that maintains itself through the course of

1154
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: a seed and still to be determined in the meantime.

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Speaker 1: Our Twitter question today, which AFC East quarterback is under

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01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: the most pressure to succeed this coming year? Is that

1157
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Sam Darneld, Jared's did him? Or the Dolphins

1158
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 1: pair bits or two of We had nine hundred votes

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01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: in and still sixty five percent of I respond and

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01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: say Josh Allen is under the most pressure to succeed

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Speaker 1: this year. Twenty eight percent say it's the Jets Sam Darneld,

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01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: only four percent say Jared's did him? Three percent say

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01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: fits or two of what do you think? You can

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01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: give us a call eight h three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: You can vote in the Twitter poll, or you can vote,

1167
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: or you can send this a tweet for a tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet presented by Corgan Moving Systems, the official movers of

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01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Jack on the tweet sheet says locally,

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01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: it's Allen. Okay, Yeah, he's the only one of that

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01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: group that's local. He says he gave us a taste

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01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: of playoffs last year. Now Bill's mafia want him to

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01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: take the next step and win a division titler, win

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01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: a playoff game, etc. But I actually voted Darnel nationally.

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01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: He's in the bigger market and under a larger microscope,

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01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: and they've seen little success so far. I agree with

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Speaker 1: the Jack. I think Donald is under more pressure, Steve.

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01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: I think you and I both agree on that, right,

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: I do, and we we've said it and said the

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01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: reason why it's right. I mean, he started out and

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Speaker 1: his head coach when he was drafted was now, I

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01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: can't think of the gentleman's name coach or the Jets. Yes,

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01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: who's the Jets head coach when Donald got dragged? Yeah, yeah,

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01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: the guy who went onto the Patriots. There Now I've

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01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: lost his anyway. So anyway, so then and then they

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01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: brought in Adam Gase. So now we have like he'll

1187
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: be his third head coach if he doesn't play well,

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01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze is under a ton of pressure. We kept this,

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01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: we kept this question focused on the quarterbacks. Head coaches

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01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: play a big part in this. Certainly, Sean McDermott and

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01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean are as solid as you can get. Um,

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01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: not quite probably a solid as Bill Belichick given the

1193
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: uncertainty surrounding his quarterback. But man, oh man, Adam Gaze,

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01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: he's he's headed. You know, he's on rocky ground, I

1195
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: would think, because that team has started to regress in

1196
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: a big hurry and they think they've got their franchise quarterback.

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01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: That's hard to withstand as a head coach. So not

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01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: only is Sam Darnold in a position where he's got

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Speaker 1: to he's got to produce, but Adam Case has got

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01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: to get it out of him. And that's that's that

1201
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: makes for a hard working environment. Todd Bowlds was his

1202
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: first head coach. Table. Yeah, hey, we got on the

1203
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Speaker 1: line with us right now, Buffalo Bill's six round draft

1204
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Speaker 1: pick out of Arden State, Isaiah Hodgsons joining us now, Isaiah,

1205
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Task, you're here with the Bills. Welcome

1206
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: to the show. Glad to have you on today. Hey guys,

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01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Are you in uh Corvellis or

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01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: are you in where you grew up in San Jose?

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01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 1: I guess right? Where do you hang out these days. Yeah,

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01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm in the East Bay in California right now. Okay,

1211
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: tell us about last Saturday getting drafted six round by

1212
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: the Bills. What went through your mind when you got

1213
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Speaker 1: picked by Buffalo. I was excited, man. I talked a

1214
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Speaker 1: lot to Buffalo before the Combine, at the Combine and

1215
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: then post combine as well, so I had a good

1216
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: feeling about them, and you know, when they called them,

1217
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: you know, I was excited. I know that they already

1218
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: have one player there from Morgan State, Jourdan Ployer, who

1219
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: I knew well. So I was excited to get up

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01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: there and work with some people. What contact have you

1221
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: had with the Bills so far? I know the virtual

1222
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: stuff might have started already, might have jumped in on that.

1223
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about what the contact you've

1224
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: had since the draft. Yeah, just a lot of virtual meetings,

1225
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, zoom cause and trying to get the playbook

1226
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: down and everything. Talked to a lot of guys who

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01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, all the rookies so you know, gave Davis

1228
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: and Jake from and everybody, and talked to some of

1229
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: the vets to have been reached now. So it gives

1230
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: me a rough family atmosphere, and that's what I love

1231
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: about it so far. So you know, I have a

1232
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: real good shield for the team already gave Davis came

1233
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. You came two rounds later. But

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01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: you two are going to be linked a lot, I

1235
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: would think, especially early on in your NFL career. Just

1236
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: both wide receivers coming in the same draft to the

1237
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: same team, right, you're probably gonna probably better get used

1238
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: to be throwing in the same sentence, I would think,

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01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: huh yeah, yeah, definitely. He's a cool dude for Sharion.

1240
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm definitely bonding with him very well so far.

1241
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: And he's smart and definitely a good athlete, so you know,

1242
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun working with him. What does scouts

1243
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: and coaches talk about when they talk about you, Isaiah?

1244
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: Do they you know, they your size, your hands, your

1245
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: route running. What are your strengths that they say, Wow,

1246
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: this guy's really good at at this? What do they say? Yeah,

1247
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: I would definitely say my hands, and multiple coaches and

1248
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: players have told me that, you know, just being a

1249
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: surant handed player who comes out to everything and catching

1250
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: those contested balls and there's some balls and everything and

1251
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: then just being a technician route runner, and you know,

1252
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: I try to pop myself on that, especially for being

1253
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: a big guy. And you know, I think it's really

1254
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: important to be able to run routes and separate and

1255
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: be able to you know, get off the ball and

1256
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: get off the press though. And you know, that's just

1257
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 1: something I'm always consistently working on. I've on the line

1258
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: with Bill sixth round pick Isaiah Hodgens. Isaiah, you said

1259
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: you knew Jordan Potter before you were drafted, right, and

1260
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: you have to with him since the Bills pet you.

1261
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: What did he have to say? Yeah, he just spacetime

1262
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: me and text me a little bit, just welcomed me

1263
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: to the team. And you know, if I had any

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Speaker 1: questions or any concerns or anything that, you know, he's

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01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: got me, and you know I ask him anything. So

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Speaker 1: he's kind of played that's like that Venterman role for

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Speaker 1: me to kind of help me out and welcome me

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Speaker 1: into the team. So he's been he's been a good help. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you one of the things you

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01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: came out into year twenty twenty, it seemed like there's

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Speaker 1: sixty gazillion wide receivers in this draft, Isaiah. It's still

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Speaker 1: got to feel good though, to be picked with a

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Speaker 1: bunch of guys. It was a strong class. You're a

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Speaker 1: part of it, but still it had to get a

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01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: little frustrating when you saw other guys picked and you

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: had to kind of wait your turn to be drafted.

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Speaker 1: What was going through your mind when he saw those

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Speaker 1: guys getting picked up and he knew there was a

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01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: ton of guys in your class. Yeah, you know, it's

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01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: definitely a little frustrating when you're sitting there and just

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01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: seeing the other guys took before Union name not getting

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01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: caught in everything. But you know, I knew that guys

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01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: had a plan and I stay faithful and he would

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: then me go to the perfect team that he wanted

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01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: me to go to. So you know, I just haven't

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01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: tried to sit there and stay level headed and I

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01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: got that phone calling on stuff to happen. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's some people who never get a phone call and

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Speaker 1: we get drafted at all. So regardless board round, I know,

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Speaker 1: it was just an opportunity in the door. And whether

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Speaker 1: you're first round and six round, you still have to

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Speaker 1: go make a team and to have to go compete

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Speaker 1: and produce during the season, So that's what I plan

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Speaker 1: on doing. I'm on the line with Isaiah Hodgen's a

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Speaker 1: Bill six round draft pick. Isaiah, you've been around the

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Speaker 1: NFL for a while. Your father won a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: with the Rams of blocking back for Marshall Falk. What

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Speaker 1: kind of influences your father had on Yea and what

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Speaker 1: do you recall about your dad's NFL career. He has

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01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: a huge influence and he's definitely helped me out, helped

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Speaker 1: me out a lot during this process, and you know,

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Speaker 1: just kind of preparing me of what the NFL's like,

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01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: what to expect, you know, how you know it's a

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01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: business and how things are done. So he's definitely helped

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01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: me just with the ins and out of the games

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01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: and just kind of preparing me my whole life at

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01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: this moment. One of your college teammates, Jay Jake Lutton,

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01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: your quarterback at Oregon State, he's now with the Jaguars.

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01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: Have you had a chance to reach out and talk

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Speaker 1: with Jake about his experience with the with the Jaguars. Yeah,

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01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: actually I have. He's super excited to go over there too,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm super excited for him, and I

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01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: knew he would get picked up somewhere. He's a smart dude,

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Speaker 1: real talented, so I know he's going to tear it

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Speaker 1: up over there. I know. One of the reasons why

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: the Bills liked you and probably why they drafted you

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01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: was your red zone production twenty touchdowns in your career

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Speaker 1: for Oregon State. Can you talk about them and how

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01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: a guy your size is especially value when you get

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Speaker 1: down near the goal line like that. Yeah, I just

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01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,479
Speaker 1: trying to use my tops to my advantage, as you said,

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01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: and you know I can use out and fade balls

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01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: and you know, just going to track the ball kind

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01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: of putting it up and letting me get opportunity or

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01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes guys automatically being saved, and that's when

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01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: I try to use my technique and route running to

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01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, break to a post or slant or something

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01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: like that, and you know, try to give him a

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01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: little shake at the top and just being having a

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01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: lot of loo into my game and a lot of headstakes,

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01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: shorter movements and you know, just trying to make the

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: most out of you know, my body and my size

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01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: and take advantage of it. What are some of the

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: things they've got you doing virtually for the bills. I know,

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01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of you know, a lot of

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01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: sitting and looking at a computer, strength and having meetings

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01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. What else are they they

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01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: kind of try to get a handle on for you

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01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: rookies about what you can do, what you can't do,

1340
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: your workouts and learning the offense or defense respectively, what

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01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: kind of what kind of what's it looked like on

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01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: these virtual football days? Yeah, Um, I mean, as you said,

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01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: you pretty much got it down. It's a lot of

1344
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: just looking at the you know, iPad or computer or

1345
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: whatever you're on and just trying to get to play

1346
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: looked down and you know they can't really tell you,

1347
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, what to do too much or anything like that.

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: So um, you know it could get a little bit

1349
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: hard sometimes, but you know you kind of find a way,

1350
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: whether it's in your backyard or garage and you know,

1351
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: stay active they working out and get moving and stuff

1352
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: and then just continue to study a lot. You know,

1353
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: football is huge mental game. If you don't know what

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01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: you're doing, then you know you can't play. So I

1355
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: think being in that playbook and getting these virtual meetings

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01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: out this huge. Yeah. I mean, Seohn mcdarmer told us

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01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: yesterday that the motto was find a way. I guess

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01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: you're just trying to find a way. Isaiah, thank you

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01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: very much for finding a way to be on the

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Speaker 1: air with this today. We appreciate it. Thanks Isaiah, appreciate you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Isaiah Hodgens Bills six round draft pick wide

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Speaker 1: receiver out of Oregon State. We've got more coming up.

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. This is Buffalo Bills reading. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: one bill give John murfeasting Canskers coming to until three

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01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: o'clock today on this Friday afternoon, talking about your weekend's playing. Steve,

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01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: you got the grandchildren, grandchildren, the first meeting really you've

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Speaker 1: seen them. Did you get a chance and there's a difference, right,

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01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: you get a chance to hold them, to smell them,

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01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: make raises at them. That's gonna be. Yeah, they were

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01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: they were both just over well, one was just over

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Speaker 1: five pounds, the other was about four and a half pounds.

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Speaker 1: And now they're there, you are putting weight on mass.

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01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: They're much they're much more robust now three weeks later,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that'll be. It'll be fun to see. And

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Speaker 1: I got the other one, who's you know, who's six

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Speaker 1: weeks or eight weeks old too, and I haven't I've

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01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: hardly seen him. I did get a chance to hold him,

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01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: but then we went into this isolation, and I have

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01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: seen him for a month either. So then I got

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Speaker 1: the ones that are up off the floor running around.

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01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta say high and pay attention to

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01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: them as well. Get your hands full this weekend, got

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01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: our hands full with the Twitter pole. What AMC East

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01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: quarterback is under the most pressure to succeed this year?

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01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: twelve three one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 1: You can vote in the Twitter pole the thousand people

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01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: to have so far, two thirds of you, sixty six

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01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 1: percent think Josh Allen is under the most pressure to succeed. Okay,

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01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: twenty eight percent say Sam Donald, four percent say Jared

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01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: Stendham of the Patriots, two percent say the Dolphins guys

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01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: fits or two all right, all right, that's what you want.

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01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: Let's go to the tweet sheet brought you by Corrigan

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Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official moves of the Buffalo Bills. Sipping

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01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: the kool aid says to me, it's Josh Allen. He

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Speaker 1: has shown the most growth in his draft class. But

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01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,839
Speaker 1: this year he has all the weapons anyone could possibly

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01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: ask for. Mayfield had it last year and did not farewell.

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Speaker 1: I believe Josh will succeed, but he has the most

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Speaker 1: pressure because of the roster around him. Good points. Is

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01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: that a valid comparison to say that Baker Mayfield had

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01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: all the weapons he needed around him last year? Steve

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01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: he had, he had playmakers. We didn't have much of

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01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: a program, right A coach who's gone now, I don't

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01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 1: think he had the same kind of solid program that

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01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has. Right well, Mayfield switched. What the way

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01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 1: it went last year in Cleveland for Baker Mayfield was

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01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: they elevated the guy who had gotten the most out

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01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 1: of Baker to the head coaching spot. And it's the

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01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: old adage. I think Freddie Kitchens got elevated to his

1411
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: level of incompetence. He just couldn't handle all the things

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01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: a head coach handles and still get the most out

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01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield. And it was Baker Mayfield that struggled

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01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: because of it. And I think and it led to

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01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: a new coaching change, another coaching change for Bakers. So

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01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has continuity, he's got the same system to learn.

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01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of things going for him the

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01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield did not, and that includes last year as well.

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01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: So UM, for that, you would expectations for Josh or

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01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: higher for me. You know, he doesn't have the thing

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01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 1: the things that went wrong for Baker last year. He

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01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: doesn't have those in his going for him. So he's

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Speaker 1: I think that expectations are high. And there's no question

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01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: there is a little pressure on on Josh Allen, but

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01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the pressure that's on Sam Darnold. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just thinking and the fact that two

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Speaker 1: thirds of the votes to go Josh Allen is the

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Speaker 1: most pressure. Okay, I accept that. I accept that that's

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: gonna be the that's gonna be the answer. It usually

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Speaker 1: doesn't flip much. So I'm thinking about where do people

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: think that um pressures coming from? And you go, you

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01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: know what, I think it was, Steve pretty simply. I

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01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: think it was the Stefan Dinks trade. Right. It was

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01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: back on what March sixteen, right before all you know,

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01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: we started to shut everything down. The bill's got Stefan

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01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 1: Driggs and immediately from that point, not from the draft

1437
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: really not from what I'm last year, but from the

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01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: Dinks trade. I think that's where all this pressure that

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01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: people perceive is on Josh Allen. That's where it's coming from.

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01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: You agree, well, I think it comes yeah, from a

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01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: spot where people think Josh has has no excuses. You know,

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01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to. He doesn't have to make up

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01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: for a new head coach. He doesn't have to make

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01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: up for a lack of wide receivers. You have to

1445
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: make up for a bad offensive line. He doesn't have to,

1446
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, overcome a bad defense. The only question mark

1447
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: on this team is the development of Josh Allen. But

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01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: for me, I mean I watched the guy. I watched

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01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: this team win ten games with him at quarterback last year,

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01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: and he left a lot of plays on the field,

1451
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: no question. I saw also saw him take an enormous

1452
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: step forward last year, and with all we've seen and

1453
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: heard from Josh, we expect him to take steps towards

1454
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: alleviating leaving those plays on the field. He's going to

1455
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: take a step forward. He's working at taking a step forward.

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01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,839
Speaker 1: He's taking responsibility for his shortcomings last year. He's working

1457
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: on those and to me, Murph, when you're smart kid

1458
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: like Josh is, and you work hard at doing something,

1459
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: you tend to get it done. That spells good things

1460
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: for this season for Josh Allen. Certainly there's some high expectations,

1461
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: but there's every reason to believe that he's going to

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01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: meet him. Most of the respondents on on Twitter believe

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01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: it's johnsh Allen. Here's Leonard Stevens. Definitely has to be

1464
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Media, fans, players, coaches and management expect success.

1465
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: If they don't make the playoffs because Josh has regressed,

1466
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: fans will be livid and you have to wonder how

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01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: that locker room will play out. Nothing is expected from

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01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks. Well, I don't necessarily agree with that.

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01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: Let's start with the back end first. Nothing is expected.

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01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: I think there are spectations for Sam Donald this year,

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01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 1: expectations that he looks like he merited the first pick

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Speaker 1: that he got in the draft a couple of years ago.

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01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: I think there are expectations Parah, not for Jared Stidham.

1474
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, you know, everything we're told from New England,

1475
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: including Mike Greece on our show about an hour ago,

1476
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: was that they have high hopes for Jared Stidham. I

1477
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: do agree with the guy on Twitter when he says

1478
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: there are expectations for Josh. Now will fans be livid.

1479
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll be livid, but I think

1480
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 1: people starts if he takes a step back, and if

1481
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: they don't make the playoffs because of Josh's play, I

1482
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: think fans rightfully would say, well, what's going on, Josh,

1483
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna You're gonna take the next step or what? Right?

1484
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: That would be understandable, I think right. But there also

1485
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: is this and this, and did you read the tweet

1486
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: sheet from Dinah? Go ahead and read it. Yeah, it

1487
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: was so many picking the Bills to win the AFC East.

1488
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: It has to be Josh Allen. They won't win many

1489
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: games unless he improves. This is his year to shine,

1490
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: no question. Josh Allen I think can shoulder more of

1491
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: the credit for the Bill's success this coming year. Um,

1492
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: they had a great defense last year. Um that our

1493
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: offensive line was much better their off Their wide receivers

1494
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: were upgraded from the year before, and now this year

1495
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: with this edition of st Stefon Diggs with added quality

1496
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: depth on the wide receiver and the offensive line certainly, Um,

1497
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: the onus comes onto the quarterback, And yeah, I think

1498
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 1: if you look nationally, and we had one of our

1499
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 1: Twitter respondents say, listen locally the pressures on Josh, but

1500
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: nationally the pressures on Sam Darnold, I would agree with that. Um,

1501
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,839
Speaker 1: Josh doesn't have any excuses not to play well. He doesn't.

1502
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: He doesn't have any excuses not to play as well

1503
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: as at least he did last year. But I think

1504
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: the pressure is really on him now to improve even further.

1505
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: And if he does not, then what do you do? Murph,

1506
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: You get into the fourth year of his of his contract,

1507
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: do you got to start thinking about, well, gosh, do

1508
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: we pick up the fifth year? I think they probably

1509
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 1: pick it up. But man, oh man, I don't know

1510
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: if they sign him to an extension unless he improves

1511
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 1: and improves drastically, right, Yeah, I don't like to think

1512
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: about that. Can I say that? I mean I based

1513
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: on his performance, his improvement from his rookie year to

1514
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: his second year in the league. I don't really I

1515
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: don't really get much thought to he won't get better

1516
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: this year. I don't think it'd be perfect this year.

1517
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, I don't know if he'll get

1518
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: sixty eight percent completion percentage, but I expect him to be,

1519
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, and get a little bit improved from last year,

1520
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: and completion percentage is not the ultimate measure. But I

1521
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: don't expect him to light it up this year. I

1522
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to ask him to light it up,

1523
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: you know. I think they've surrounded him with enough talent

1524
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: and and a solid defense and a good running game

1525
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: that they're looking at him to play winning football. Which

1526
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: is a lot, but it's not everything, right, I said,

1527
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: you know what, all that a little couple of sentences

1528
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: us had just said about he you know, fourth year option.

1529
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: I listen fully, fully expect Josh Shallon to meet expectations.

1530
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: I think the guy's gonna be way better than he

1531
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: was last year. I think this is a year when

1532
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: he can take an exponential step forward. I think the

1533
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: players around him are gonna make him better. I think

1534
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: his hard work's gonna pay off, and I think he's

1535
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy who's you know, a buffalo bill

1536
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: for a long long time. It's interesting because you know,

1537
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: you gottas you can bring. You can spend this anyway

1538
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: you want. If you go best case scenario, worst case scenario.

1539
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: He's something He's gonna be somewhere in between. Right. We

1540
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: don't expect him to become something completely different than what

1541
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: he has always been, but we do have every right

1542
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: to expect that he's going to be the best version

1543
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: of what he has been, and and that's that's going

1544
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: to lead to a lot of success for the Buffalo Bills.

1545
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: Take a phone call here, let's go to dominic in Lackawanna. Hello, Dominic,

1546
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Go ahead. Hi, you doing guys,

1547
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: Hope you're staying safe through all this? Thanks for taking

1548
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: my call. Absolutely, you bet. I honestly think that the

1549
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: pressure falls more on Sam Darnold. I believe you know.

1550
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: Josh has led us to a ten and six season,

1551
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: made the playoffs. Yes, he has thing to improve on,

1552
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: but it really comes down to Sam Darnold really needs

1553
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: to step his game up if he wants to continue

1554
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: to be that base of the franchise quarterback for the Jets.

1555
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm no Jets fan, but when it comes

1556
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 1: down to whose job might be online, it's definitely Sam Darnold.

1557
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: That's what I think. I think you really agree. I

1558
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: do too, I really do Um. Certainly, Jared stidhams under

1559
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: under some pressure because you know of who he's trying

1560
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,839
Speaker 1: to replace, and the fact that the guy he's replacing

1561
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: had his worst game in recent his worst season in

1562
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: recent memory, and they won twelve games. That's a that's

1563
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: a lot of expectation that Jared Stidham's walking into. But

1564
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: still it's Jared Stidham. Nobody knows what to expect, so

1565
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: the expectations are unsure at best. But for Sam Darnold,

1566
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: you and I but and this, let's say this, Murph.

1567
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: You and I have gone around the block with these

1568
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 1: two guys, Sam and Josh for more than their career

1569
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: before they were drafted. We both think Sam Darnold's a

1570
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: really good quarterback, and we both love Josh. We love

1571
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen what he brings the table, and love him

1572
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 1: as a Buffalo Bills quarterback. So I think you and

1573
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 1: I both think both these guys are gonna be quarterbacks,

1574
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: and merely I think they're gonna be quarterbacks in the

1575
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: AFC East for a decade going against each other. But man,

1576
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: old man Darnold's got to do something and stop this

1577
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: roller coaster that the Jets seem to ride all the time. Yeah,

1578
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to agree with you because, you know, because

1579
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: I believe the pressure is on Darnold to produce now

1580
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 1: this year, year three, he doesn't show the reasons why

1581
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,839
Speaker 1: they made him a first round draft pick. He especially

1582
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: in New York, he will, He'll face some questions, I think,

1583
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: and I think the pressures on him I got right.

1584
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. Then, if you think

1585
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's got his questions, you know, surrounding him, let

1586
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 1: me ask you this question. Do you have as much

1587
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: confidence in Sam Donald's ability to improve as you do

1588
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: in Josh Allen's ability? Because we both think Josh Allen's

1589
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: gonna improve because we've seen it. I don't, and mostly

1590
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: because I haven't seen Donald as much as I have Josh.

1591
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: But I think Josh is in a better setup. He's

1592
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: got a great defense, he's got a running game. If

1593
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: Josh comes out to a real windy day in Orchard Park,

1594
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 1: he can say, I'm gonna give the ball to Zach Moss,

1595
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give the ball to Motor. I'm gonna not

1596
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: throw it more than fifteen times. I don't know the same.

1597
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: Donald has that kind of a team around him, you know,

1598
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: to lean on his defense, in his running game, and

1599
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 1: quite frankly, on his coaching staff to make the right call.

1600
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: So no, I don't have the same kind of confidence,

1601
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: do you. Yeah, well, I don't know. It's interesting and

1602
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm and I don't know. You're right. There's no question

1603
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's on a better team right at the moment,

1604
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: at least on a more proven team. But the Jets

1605
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: have taken some nice steps. For the first time in

1606
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 1: a while, they've taken some pretty prudent steps toward protecting Darnald.

1607
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: They gave him an offensive line. They still got a

1608
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: levy On Bell in their backfield. Although everybody and you

1609
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: and me and most people believe that once you pay

1610
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: a running back a ton of money, it's hard for

1611
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: him to get their nose dirty anymore. I mean, it's

1612
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: hard to jump into a tree grinder when you've already

1613
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: made your money, right. I don't know that Levion Bell

1614
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: is ever going to be the player he was for

1615
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers in a New York Jet uniform. But

1616
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: that's the running back they've got, and you got to

1617
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 1: think that they've got some confidence that Levon Bell's got

1618
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: some ability to carry the running game for Sam Darnold

1619
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 1: as much as you know Devin Singletary and Zach Moss

1620
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: do for the Bills and their offensive line. They've got

1621
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: a question. There are a defense. It's not going to

1622
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: be as good as the Bills defense. You're right, But

1623
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: when you're just talking about the two quarterbacks, I think

1624
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 1: you But I think Sam Darnold will improve and play better.

1625
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: But you're right, he's in a tougher spot to show

1626
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 1: it than Josh Allen is. Yeah, take another call. Here

1627
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 1: a phone call from Ken in his car. Hello, Ken,

1628
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Good afternoon, gentleman, Happy may Day.

1629
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: I can Hey, guys, I think I'm really high on

1630
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and it seems like a lot of bill

1631
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: Spans just aren't for multiple different reasons. But what as

1632
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: I look back on the season last year, I think

1633
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: he's only going to go as far as Dable really

1634
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: leads him. And my point is, it seems like when

1635
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: Josh played his best, he was taking two and three

1636
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: step drops and getting the ball out of his hand,

1637
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: and when he got in trouble, he was taking the

1638
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: longer five and even seven step drops. It seemed like

1639
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 1: when he's had the long drops and step back they're

1640
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 1: patting the ball, he bad things happened, And I don't

1641
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: think the dable ran the ball enough in certain situations

1642
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: in the playoff game. Really backs up my point. He

1643
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 1: had a running back averaging five and a half yards

1644
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: to carry, and he carries the ball twelve or thirteen times,

1645
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: and in that second half, when we were running the

1646
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: ball almost at will, we kept being pass happy. And

1647
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,560
Speaker 1: I hope that that doesn't happen again this year. But

1648
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: again I hope they will will maybe watch film from

1649
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: last year and see where Josh really really excelled and

1650
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: then see where he struggled and then adjust his game

1651
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: plans accordingly. And as far as h Ken, I just

1652
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I guarantee you he's watched game film

1653
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: from last year in particular to see what worked with

1654
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 1: Josh and what didn't work. But go ahead yet another point. Well,

1655
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: I'll ask a question of your Murphy and make my

1656
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: quick point. Do you with me what I'm saying as

1657
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,759
Speaker 1: far as how he played in the short drops compared

1658
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: to the long drops. And then my last point is

1659
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 1: I just think Josh is a way better quarterback than

1660
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: Sam Darnald. Okay, I think he's played better than Darnald.

1661
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's way better. As far as

1662
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 1: your first point, No, I haven't noticed that short drops

1663
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: versus long drops. You know, when he's back there a

1664
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: while deep drop or not, it means things aren't He's

1665
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: not seeing what he needs to see to get rid

1666
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: of the ball. They wanted to get rid of the ball.

1667
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: They always wanted to get rid of the ball. Short dropper,

1668
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: long drop, they wanted to get rid of it in

1669
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: that face pressure. And if he's standing back there patting

1670
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: the ball as you describe, I would say, Steve, it's

1671
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: probably indicative of him not seeing what he needs to

1672
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: see for whatever reason, right, including receivers who aren't getting

1673
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: open as I think that's why they got Stefan Diggs.

1674
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'll give you an idea of why

1675
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm more optimistic than Ken seems to be. Certainly, Josh

1676
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: and the analytics people, from what I've seen, have said,

1677
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 1: have backed up what Ken sing. Josh was really good

1678
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: in the intermediate passing game, but we all know he's

1679
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 1: stunk when he went deep and when you're in third

1680
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 1: and long or long yardage is Yeah, you're with a

1681
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: quarterback like that, It looks bad for you, certainly in

1682
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: the run game, in the pass game, whether you run

1683
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 1: or pass. It's hard for me to get on any

1684
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for the play selection when he should have

1685
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: run here, he should have passed there, or why did

1686
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: he pass here when he should have run here. They've

1687
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 1: got all kinds of justification for the plays they call

1688
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: in a given moment. So I'm I'm not really ready

1689
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: to have a conversation about why day Ball ran in

1690
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,799
Speaker 1: this situation and why he threw it in this situation

1691
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 1: and vice versa. But I will say this, I Josh

1692
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: Allen is a guy who is well. Ken called and

1693
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 1: put this out there that he puts a little bit

1694
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: on day Ball, and I agree, But I like day Ball,

1695
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: and they run this offense in such a way the

1696
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 1: day Ball is going to put Josh in a in

1697
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 1: a play and in a position with the read that

1698
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: makes him gives him a chance to be successful. And

1699
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: for as much as Ken and Dominic our other caller

1700
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: and other callers have said, and how much they think

1701
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: they see and how much they think they know about Josh,

1702
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: believe me, Brian day Ball knows Josh better than any

1703
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 1: of us ever will. He knows what he's capable of,

1704
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: he knows what he's good at, he knows what he

1705
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: wants him to do, wants what he wants him to see.

1706
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: And when the plays don't go well, do not always

1707
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: and forever blame the offensive coordinator. It comes down to

1708
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 1: the players, and most and most often it comes down

1709
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, not the offensive coordinator. So I'm I'm

1710
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: very reticent to sit here and bash an offensive It's

1711
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: it's it's NFL football fans favorite pastime. I want to

1712
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: bash the offensive coordinator because I knew they were gonna run.

1713
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: And if I knew they were gonna run, so did

1714
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: the defense. It is an absolute tired argument to make,

1715
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm disinterested in getting into it, and

1716
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: we're not going to get into it. Steve says, sorry,

1717
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: I hear you. We're gonna take a break, though. We

1718
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: got more coming up. One Bill's Live, presented by Kell

1719
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: Out of Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome Back

1720
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: One does five, Jim Murphy, Steve Caskier going until pre today.

1721
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 1: We have Greg Cosl coming up at two Maddie glam

1722
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: coming up at two thirty. Hey, I don't want to

1723
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: go too much further step when we got a couple

1724
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: of calls to take. But reading the Rochester Papers today,

1725
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,879
Speaker 1: long Time Bill's Beat reported Leo Roth announced his retirement.

1726
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: He wrote not one, but two amazing columns today. One

1727
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: it was so well written about his thirty seven years

1728
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: covering the bills and covering everything else he's done. He's

1729
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: an outdoor writer. He's covered Syracuse basketball. The other one

1730
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 1: was a classic Leo Roth column about a guy who

1731
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: was trying to open up a Finger Lakes museum near

1732
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: Kuka Lake, and it was just a classic. It's so

1733
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: well written. The guy is such a great writer. But

1734
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: more than that, he was a great guy. He is

1735
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 1: a great guy, and it was great to him around.

1736
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: I saw him. I shot him a text to day

1737
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: and told him his good natured attitude was always a

1738
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: pleasure to be around. And you knew Leo a little bit, right,

1739
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: Leo Roth Rochest for sure. Yeah, I mean I obviously

1740
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: was on the he was on the team when he

1741
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: was covering it. No, we've had since I've been in

1742
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: the media for over two decades. Of course, we've crossed

1743
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: a cross paths a ton and yeah, it's he's one

1744
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: of the he's one of the guys that it's one

1745
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 1: of the guys you don't mind bumping into, you know, yeah,

1746
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: as a player, right, so um, he he straddled the

1747
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: line between a good journalists and a guy who writes

1748
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: well and and a guy who could be your friend

1749
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 1: as well. You know he could, he could. He straddled

1750
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: the line towards it from objectivity to being a good

1751
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: guy very well. And I was I appreciated that he

1752
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: got it. I mean, he understood who he was covering,

1753
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: why they were doing what they did. I just had

1754
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: a lot of fun with them when And I haven't

1755
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 1: had a lot of contact with him in recent years

1756
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: since I came to work for the Bills eight years

1757
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 1: ago now, but I still always enjoyed seeing him. We

1758
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,879
Speaker 1: wish him what thirty seven years as a reporter Rochester

1759
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 1: Times Union and the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle. H he's

1760
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: been great. He's a Buffalo area native. He's been great.

1761
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: And uh, you're really good columns two of them today

1762
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 1: in the Rochester Paper. I would highly advise anyone if

1763
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: you want to get a sense of Leo roth Reid

1764
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 1: is two columns, not one, but two, because the one

1765
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: on the finger Lakes never mentioned Leo's last column or

1766
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: he's retiring. It was just a well written, great piece

1767
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 1: about the dedication of a man to get the Finger

1768
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 1: Lakes Museum built. And then of course Leo's kind of

1769
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: farewell column was great to read too. We wish him well.

1770
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 1: Good guy, good. All right, let's take another phone call.

1771
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 1: Let's go to Tom in Orchard Park. Hello, Tom, you're

1772
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: on the air with us. Go ahead, day, Steve and

1773
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: mur how are you guys doing today? Great? Hey, listen,

1774
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, as far as completion ratio and all that,

1775
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm an next football player. I didn't play

1776
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: as far as Steve did. I bounced ground and see

1777
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: if follow the places past for sixty which you know

1778
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: in any kind of ara of football, that's fairly decent.

1779
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: And you know, going back to what quarterback may or

1780
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: may not be, you know, have their head on the

1781
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: chicken acts. It's all of them. I mean, at the

1782
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: end of the day, winning is everything. If these guys

1783
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: don't win, they're not in the NFL. As far as

1784
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: Dabo too, because I heard you're talking about that Steve,

1785
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: you need a decent coordinator, but you can't run. You

1786
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: can't run reverses, you know, screen draws. You know, he passes,

1787
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: But then again, he didn't have all the people to run.

1788
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: I think the offense that you needed. One last thing.

1789
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to see the Bill's gotten an offensive tackle.

1790
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 1: They can take care of the weak side. Good stuff. Yeah,

1791
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 1: it's a lot there. Yeah, first of all, sixty is

1792
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: the base of what quarterbacks should be complete these days.

1793
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: But I'm with you if you can do that. I mean,

1794
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: you're pretty good quarterback, and I agree with you. But

1795
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,799
Speaker 1: the bar has been raised a great deal on completion

1796
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 1: percentage from where it was back in the day. I

1797
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: think Tom just put Brian Dabole on notice. Yeah, he's

1798
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: got a couple of plays in mind that the Bills rando.

1799
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: Of course, if they don't work, you shouldn't they run him. Okay, Right,

1800
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 1: they took some heat last year because they didn't run

1801
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: screen passes and this kind of stuff. Let me tell

1802
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: you something, you got to have certain personnel kind of

1803
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: and capable of doing it. The Bills down inside. They

1804
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 1: had Mitch Morris uh down inside, but they also had

1805
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: John Feliciano and Quentin Spain. Aliciano and Spain are really

1806
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: tough dudes and their big body guys to move around,

1807
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: but they aren't really athletic and good enough to get

1808
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 1: out in front of screens like some more athletic offensive line.

1809
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 1: That's not the strength of their game. So the Bills

1810
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: didn't really run a lot of screen passes because they

1811
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: weren't athletic enough down inside to run them as often

1812
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 1: as they could, or if they did, they ran them

1813
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: at a time when the tackles could get out in

1814
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: front of them or Mitch Morse could get out in

1815
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: front of them. But all those things are combined. That

1816
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 1: is an insight as to why offensive coordinators will call

1817
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: some plays and won't call others. And I'm not saying

1818
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 1: that's the exclusive reason why the Bills were bad at

1819
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: screens last year, but that's the type of thing that

1820
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 1: a coordinator knows that most of us don't. And so

1821
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, the offense has got to play

1822
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: well with Brian day Ball. He knows that. But believe me,

1823
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: he's he's more than just an okay offensive coordinator. But

1824
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm not here. I like Brian.

1825
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 1: It's great, but I'm not here to like save his

1826
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 1: job or anything. The guy's the guy's a good coordinator.

1827
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,600
Speaker 1: He wouldn't be here if he wasn't. And you know so,

1828
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 1: I'm like I said, it's America's favorite pastime is bashing

1829
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: on their on the offensive coordinator their favorite team. So

1830
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: where did he get the interview for a head coach

1831
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 1: at Cleveland? Right? He was a finalist for the Cleveland job. Okay, Yeah,

1832
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: by the way, shout out birthday. Shout out today to

1833
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: one of my favorite Buffalo Bills Alex van Pelt turns

1834
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 1: fifty years old today, offensive coordinator for the Cleveland Brown.

1835
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah he's a baby. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And by

1836
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,799
Speaker 1: next year at this time, after dealing with Baker Mayfield

1837
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: and Odell Beckham, and he'll have his sixtieth birthday. I

1838
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: played with him the way I caught passes from him. Yeah,

1839
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: but you're older, Nat, Come on, man, I'm wail. I

1840
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: didn't know he was that young when I was catching

1841
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 1: his pass. Got a break here and then we're back

1842
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: with more Buffalo Hills Radio Network Sports Update. Got the

1843
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: update from one Bills Live head coach On McDermott met

1844
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 1: the media yesterday. He was on our show yesterday and

1845
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 1: he said the team's model this soft season is quote

1846
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,560
Speaker 1: find a way. McDermott says he does not want the

1847
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: challenges created by the pandemic to provide an excuse for

1848
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: his team to stop getting better in the coming months.

1849
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: Among the other things McDermott said is that the development

1850
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: of the passing game this year is normally done this

1851
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: time of year when they're in the offseason workouts. He

1852
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 1: says they will miss that because that's where the focus

1853
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: is during the spring workouts. McDermot says he's concerned about

1854
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: how newly acquired receiver Stephan Diggs and quarterback Josh Allen

1855
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: will meshbo. He says, we're going to find a way

1856
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 1: to get it done. NFL's May meeting has been moved

1857
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 1: to a virtual meeting, now scheduled May nineteenth or the

1858
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 1: twentieth in the Los Angeles area. It'll now be held

1859
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 1: virtually according to NFL Network. Changes come after a week

1860
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 1: after the draft was conducted entirely remotely. The annual league

1861
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 1: meeting schedule for late March was canceled as rule changes

1862
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,839
Speaker 1: in other football matters that we're supposed to be discussed

1863
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 1: and voted upon, will now be done virtually. At the

1864
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 1: May meeting, Dolphins agreed to trade edge resher char Harris

1865
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:02,560
Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Falcons and a Shane They get a

1866
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one seventh round pick. Harris was a first

1867
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: round pick of the Dolphins just two years or three

1868
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 1: years ago, train and a half sacks over forty one games.

1869
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,759
Speaker 1: The Dolphins attempted to move him to an outside linebacker

1870
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 1: last year after his early struggles at defensive end, but

1871
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: he had just a half sack last year. Broncos linebacker

1872
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 1: Von Miller says he is negative for the coronavirus, two

1873
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 1: weeks after announcing that he had it. April sixteenth, Miller

1874
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 1: announced his diagnosis, saying he went public to emphasize that

1875
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 1: anyone can be affected with the virus. He was under

1876
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: the care of Broncos doctors and remained in isolation in

1877
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: the area. He's an eight time Pro Bowl selection. He

1878
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: says he tried to take every precaution over the last month,

1879
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: but he's still contracted the virus. And there you go.

1880
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 1: That is the update. One Bills Live. John Murphy steam

1881
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: Tansker into the final hour of the show final hour

1882
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 1: of the week, and as usual on Fridays, we get

1883
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to one of our favorite guests,

1884
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 1: one of our best guests, the executive producer analyst for

1885
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 1: NFL Matchup on ESPN, senior producer in NFL Films, Greg

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Speaker 1: Cosell on the line of the although Greg tanks coming

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Speaker 1: on again, we really appreciate it, Murf, Steve, how are

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Speaker 1: you guys doing good? Good, good? Just getting over the draft?

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Speaker 1: It was? It was a different draft. It was kind

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Speaker 1: of an interesting draft, I think and many people. I

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Speaker 1: think we'll remember this draft fondly for what a small scale,

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Speaker 1: kind of homey atmosphere of the draft. Head, Greg, what

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Speaker 1: about you? I really liked it, Murf. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. I love seeing the players

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Speaker 1: with their families. You've got real genuine reactions instead of

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Speaker 1: the kind of a Hollywood reaction. And uh, I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we did too. Anything surprised you other than the fact

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Speaker 1: that we found out Bill Belichick has a dog? No, no,

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Speaker 1: I guess not. I mean, it's nothing that immediately jumps out.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about things unrelated to the picks. I assume,

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Speaker 1: right right, Bill Belichick actually may have some affection for another,

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Speaker 1: you know, another living being we had on We had

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Speaker 1: you on the night of the draft. You were lucky.

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Speaker 1: You're gracious enough to come on and talk about aj Epenesa.

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Speaker 1: Could you give us a quick recap, But it's the

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Speaker 1: first couple of picks of Bill Stratt. I know you. Look,

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Speaker 1: you spend a lot of time on Epineza and also

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss, and just give us a quick recap of

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Speaker 1: those picks again that you already did that on a

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Speaker 1: Friday night, but just give it again for for our listeners. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think Epiness is one of those guys. And the

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Speaker 1: reason he was a second round pick in my view

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Speaker 1: is because he's not necessarily an explosive, bend flexible edge rusher.

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Speaker 1: But he's really a good player. He's got incredibly strong hands,

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Speaker 1: he's athletic, not explosive, but very, very athletic. I think

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Speaker 1: you can play him at defensive end, you can play

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Speaker 1: him at defensive tackle. My senses, he'd be a better

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Speaker 1: pass rusher inside a defensive tackle where he could work

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Speaker 1: against guards. But he is a strong, strong player and

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Speaker 1: one of the things you don't see often from college

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Speaker 1: players coming into the NFL is the ability to use

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Speaker 1: their hands and engage and display offense of lineman, and

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Speaker 1: I think he has the ability to do that. Hey, Greg,

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Speaker 1: before you move on the hint from him, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you one more question about Einesa. Can you be

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Speaker 1: successful in the NFL now as a defensive end if

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Speaker 1: you're not explosive, bend flexible means there a room for

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Speaker 1: a guy like Epinessa in the league now. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: I also think you can be a quality pass rusher

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Speaker 1: because not every guy you know, Look, we're in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You don't get all your sacks just by running up

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Speaker 1: field and bending around the tackle. I think that you

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Speaker 1: have to be able to play off contact. You have

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Speaker 1: to be able to use your hands effectively to win

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Speaker 1: the leverage game, and I think Epinessa can do that.

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Speaker 1: So I want to ask you. You did talk about

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss last Friday night, and last Friday you seem

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Speaker 1: to indicate that he might have a major role to

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Speaker 1: play in the offense, and can you elaborate on that

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Speaker 1: as far as the dispersion of carries between he and

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Speaker 1: motor Devin Singletary, I got the sense that you didn't

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Speaker 1: think as much of Devin Singletary as maybe as maybe

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Speaker 1: we do, or I do at least. Oh no, No,

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Speaker 1: I like Singletary. I think they are different backs. I

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Speaker 1: think Singletary is a little more, has a little more juice,

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Speaker 1: has a little more lateral agility. He can make people miss,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think he's that kind of back where

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Speaker 1: I think what makes Moss special in his way is

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Speaker 1: his power, his contact balance, his yards after contact. He's

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Speaker 1: a strong, powerful runner. Moss is not explosive in terms

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Speaker 1: of speed and home run hitting ability, but I think

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Speaker 1: that he has a real powerful almost He's one of

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Speaker 1: those backs and Steve will know exactly what I mean.

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Speaker 1: He gets the hard yards, and there's always a place

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Speaker 1: for backs in the NFL who get hard yards because

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Speaker 1: those yards matter in any given game. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know exactly how it'll play out Murph in terms of

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Speaker 1: division of labor with Singletary and Moss, But I don't

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Speaker 1: think Moss was drafted in the third round to sit

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Speaker 1: on the bench. I think he will play. Yeah, both

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Speaker 1: those guys. It's interesting. Both Singletary and Moss were drafted

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Speaker 1: in the third round, and I gotta ask you too,

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Speaker 1: because when the Bills aft Devin Singletary, the knock on

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Speaker 1: Devin's singletary was that he was not a home run hitter.

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Speaker 1: And now Zach Moss, of course, he's kind of the

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Speaker 1: same speed kind of guy. He's different style of runner,

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Speaker 1: but neither one of them or home run hitters. How

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Speaker 1: how important for an offense or what will the Bill's

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Speaker 1: offense be missing by not having a running back with

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Speaker 1: the you know, with the speed of you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: exaggerating to make a point, but with the speed of

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Speaker 1: like a Chris Johnson used to have, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, And I don't think there's a ton

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Speaker 1: of those guys in the league, Steve, I mean to

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Speaker 1: me and everybody can see it differently. I don't think

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Speaker 1: long speed, home run hitting ability is at the top

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Speaker 1: of my traits lists, you know, checklist for backs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: would you love it back to be able to take

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Speaker 1: it to the house, of course you would. A speed

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Speaker 1: is always a trait that's in demand. But I think

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Speaker 1: to be a good back in the league, you don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily need that. And I think the way the Bills

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Speaker 1: are building their offense with two good backs, the play

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Speaker 1: action pass game. They do have speed on the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: They can get the ball down the field in the

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Speaker 1: past game. I think that's the way they see their offense.

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Speaker 1: So in Singletary, you know, he may not be a

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Speaker 1: four three five guy, not many backs are, but I

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Speaker 1: think Singletary does give you some juice. He's he's not

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Speaker 1: a grinder. Moss is more of a grinder. We're on

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Speaker 1: the line where Greg Costal, executive producer analyst NFL matchup

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Speaker 1: on the ESPN. I want to get your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the Bills Saturday draft picks. Greg, and I'm gonna lump

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Speaker 1: the two wide receivers together, fourth round Gabe Davis and

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Speaker 1: sixth round Um sixth rounder Isaiah Hogen. Yeah, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Steve knows what I mean here. But is it fair

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Speaker 1: to lumping together? And are these guys that may have

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Speaker 1: slipped down in the draft because there were so many

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Speaker 1: wide receivers going do you think, well, Davis ki is

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Speaker 1: is a smaller school guy overall. I mean he comes

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Speaker 1: from Central Florida, you know their Division one, but it's

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Speaker 1: not you know, a Power five school. He's six two

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Speaker 1: two sixteen. He was one of those guys he lined

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Speaker 1: up always on the left side of the formation, and

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Speaker 1: he often lined up just two or three yards from

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Speaker 1: the sideline. I mean, he did not have multiple splits,

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Speaker 1: didn't have a ton of route concepts that he ran.

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Speaker 1: But he's got size and traits to work with, you know.

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Speaker 1: I thought that you think in terms of what he

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Speaker 1: can become with coaching and development down the road. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's he's kind of a long striding type guy.

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Speaker 1: He showed a vertical dimension in college with some physicality,

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Speaker 1: with some subtle hand usage to create downfield separation. You know, again,

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Speaker 1: you're getting into later round picks, so there's always a

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Speaker 1: reason why guys get drafted there as opposed to early.

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Speaker 1: So their strengths and weaknesses. But when you look at

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Speaker 1: the size, the pretty good speed, the ability to get vertical,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you take a shot. Hodgens on

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Speaker 1: the other hand, he's he's a little different. Hodgens has great,

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Speaker 1: great hands, and he can catch almost anything. The question

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Speaker 1: with him was does he lack the necessary athletic traits

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Speaker 1: to to, you know, do what he does at the

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Speaker 1: NFL level. He lined up almost exclusively on the outside.

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Speaker 1: The question is can he separate and win versus quality

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Speaker 1: NFL man coverage. Can he beat press coverage? I think

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Speaker 1: he probably need to become a little more versatile and

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Speaker 1: line up all over, maybe be scheme to get free

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Speaker 1: access off the line of scrimmage, motion stacks, bunch concepts.

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Speaker 1: But he's got outstanding hands and that can never be

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Speaker 1: overlooked because when all's said and done, when the ball's

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Speaker 1: thrown to you, you got to catch it. So that's

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Speaker 1: and he's got lengked I mean, he's almost six four,

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Speaker 1: he's got a huge wingspan. He's just he's not a

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Speaker 1: great athlete for an NFL receiver. I gotta ask you

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Speaker 1: which one of those guys, either Gabriel Davis and Isaiah Hodgins.

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Speaker 1: He said Gabriel Davis is kind of limited in what

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Speaker 1: they've been able to see him do. Lines up always

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Speaker 1: on the left, always the same spot. Does that mean

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Speaker 1: Hodgens maybe? And I get it. Both these guys are

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Speaker 1: drafted where they were because the Bills think they have

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Speaker 1: a better chance of making the team. But which one

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Speaker 1: do you think has a better chance of making Bill's

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Speaker 1: roster given the fact they got Cole Beasley, John Brown,

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Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs, and Andre Roberts a return guy. Who do

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Speaker 1: either of them have a chance of busting into that lineup? Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many snaps they get, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if both even make the team,

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Speaker 1: But if one does, I don't know how many snaps

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Speaker 1: they get. But Hodgens is a more refined player at

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Speaker 1: this point. He's he's a good technician for a route runner.

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Speaker 1: As a route runner, he had a plan for how

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Speaker 1: to attack and defeat corners. You know, Hodgens to me,

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Speaker 1: knew how to play the position. He's just not a

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Speaker 1: higher level athlete. But he can catch the football. So

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Speaker 1: I think that Hodgens is clearly more advanced as we

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Speaker 1: sit here today. Davis probably has a little more juice.

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Speaker 1: So now you have to figure out how that plays out. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we don't have a normal off season, so we're not

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Speaker 1: going to see that on the field. But you know,

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Speaker 1: if Hodgens just was a better athlete, he would have

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Speaker 1: been a much higher pick. But he just is not

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Speaker 1: quite the athlet lead you'd like to see that. There's

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Speaker 1: no twitch to Hygiens at all. He doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: second gear, there's no burst to him. We'll live to

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Speaker 1: Greg col Greg frown. The Bills went to a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: surprising many, Jake From the Georgia quarterback. What what would

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Speaker 1: your free draft analysis of Jake From? I wonder how

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Speaker 1: much that changed based on what you saw up to

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Speaker 1: combine him. What do you think of the pick? Well,

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Speaker 1: I've been around Jake From I know him a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure you guys have interviewed him. He's there's

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Speaker 1: not a better guy than Jake From. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's one of those guys as soon as you meet

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Speaker 1: him and talk to him, you'll love the guy. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, he was a three year starter in the SEC.

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Speaker 1: The reason why he got drafted where he did is

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Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, you'll love him.

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Speaker 1: You'll love the intangibles, you'll love what he is. But

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Speaker 1: you just always wonder about the ability to play quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the NFL because he's he doesn't have a strong arm,

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Speaker 1: he can't really drive the ball with a velocity. You

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Speaker 1: just you know, again, you just wonder if that limitation

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Speaker 1: is such that, hey, he's not an NFL starting quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but you want him in your quarterback room. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. I was fortunate enough to be on the

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Speaker 1: field of the combine and he because they do it alphabetically,

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Speaker 1: he threw between Jacob Eason and Justin Herbert, and I

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Speaker 1: felt so badly for Jake From because Jake From throwing

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Speaker 1: in between those guys, he looked like he had, you know,

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Speaker 1: a high school arm relative to those guys who are

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Speaker 1: both big time arm strained throwers. But here's a guy

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Speaker 1: who I spoke to a number of people who said

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Speaker 1: he was a master in the interviews. He understood everything,

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01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 1: could explain everything. And that's what he is. That's who

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01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 1: Jake From is. So he can run your offense. He

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01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 1: won't make mistakes, but he's just has some limitations throwing

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Speaker 1: the football. I gotta I want to ask you that.

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Speaker 1: Then this draft that we were talking, we've been talking

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Speaker 1: all day about quarterbacks, and you know, Jake From one

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01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 1: of them. But they also have some guys that are

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Speaker 1: already in the pros who are young quarterbacks. You got

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Speaker 1: two attack of Eloh who's just got drafted, Josh Allen,

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01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Jared Stidham, all in the afcasts. It's a

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01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 1: vastly different group than we've seen in past years. Which

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Speaker 1: can you put like a for instance, can you put

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Speaker 1: a Jake From in contact on context of those? And

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Speaker 1: I think it becomes when what you've said, it becomes

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Speaker 1: pretty obvious how he would fit into a young group

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks like that. Well, you know, I think what

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Speaker 1: From is if you really like From And obviously my

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Speaker 1: guess is the Bills had him rated a little more

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Speaker 1: highly and therefore he was sitting there and they said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, we'll take him because we have Matt Barkley,

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Speaker 1: who I believe has one year left on his deal,

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Speaker 1: and we know Josh Allen's our quarterback. Jake From is

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01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 1: not going to be the starter there. But the thing

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Speaker 1: about Jake From is if you have to play him,

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Speaker 1: he can run your offense and he'll run it very

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Speaker 1: effectively and efficiently. You know, given what his limitations are,

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Speaker 1: if you're putting him in with all these other quarterbacks,

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01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, you know, we're not sure what Stidham is

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Speaker 1: as an NFL quarterback, although Stidham has a better arm

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01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 1: than From. You know, obviously, Sam Darnold is a third

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Speaker 1: pick in the draft. A Darnold's a very talented guy

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01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 1: when you just look at traits for the position. So

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Speaker 1: Darnold's a higher level talent. I mean I talked to

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Speaker 1: a bunch of people at the combine about let's say

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01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 1: Sam Donald versus TWA, and everybody said, Sam Darnoalds just

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01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:27,919
Speaker 1: has more traits. So you know, Donald's a traits quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Whether he becomes a great player, we don't know. But

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Speaker 1: but from you know, I think if From were to

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Speaker 1: develop and be able to play, you'd probably think of

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01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 1: him in terms of a Kirk Cousins type player, the

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Speaker 1: guy who can really run your offense but would need

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01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 1: a run game, would would need the offense to work

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Speaker 1: for him as opposed to him making the offense. Hey, Greg,

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Speaker 1: are you the bill's got the kicker Tyler Bass in

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01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 1: the sixth round? Are you one of those guys that

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01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 1: as a rule about you never take a kicker before

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01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 1: this round or that round, or you just go with it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think of that pactm What

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01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 1: do you think of how early it is to take

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Speaker 1: a kicker? You know, Mike rule is kind of that.

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01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't even know anything about kickers. That's kind of

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01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:14,599
Speaker 1: my rule. I mean, it was so hard on everything else.

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01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 1: I will admit that special teams is not in my area.

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01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,719
Speaker 1: So I sometimes once it's a kicker that's on national

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01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 1: TV all the time, like Alabama's kicker LSUS or one

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01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: of those schools. I don't even know the names of

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01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 1: kickers verb so so I would have no I mean,

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01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem taking a kicker now is

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01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 1: he Is he a kicker or a punter kicker? He's

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01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 1: a kicker, Okay, So I mean again, you know, obviously

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01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 1: in today's NFL, kickers win and lose games, So it's

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01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 1: it's important. I know every year there's always a team

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01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 1: that would have won two or three more games, or

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01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 1: they win two or three more games because their kicker

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01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 1: makes important field goals. So it clearly is an important position.

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Speaker 1: I'm just being honest that it's not something I study.

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Speaker 1: I've got to ask you. Everything's about quarter backs these days.

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01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 1: And we asked you about, you know, Jake from and

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01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 1: we asked you about and now Jordan Love's been drafted

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01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 1: by the Packers, and with Aaron Rodgers on the roster,

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01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 1: the Eagles drafted Jalen Hurts with Carson Wentz on the roster,

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01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 1: and now and the guy I want to ask you

2167
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 1: about is Andy Dalton. He's out on the street put

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Speaker 1: him into context with some of the starting quarterbacks around

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01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 1: the league. Where's he fall well? I think Andy Dalton

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01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 1: was always a quarterback. And keep in mind, he's won

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01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:30,640
Speaker 1: a lot of games in this league. He's gotten his

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01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 1: team to the playoffs quite a bit. I mean, obviously

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01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 1: he hasn't won a playoff game, but there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of winning seasons in Cincinnati. There was a year

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Speaker 1: when I think he got hurt a week twelve or

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01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: thirteen where people spoke about him and it's the MVP

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Speaker 1: of the league that year. I think he falls in

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Speaker 1: the range of a middle of the road quarterback. I

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01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 1: think he's a classic, you know, and I hate to

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01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 1: use this term because because almost everybody is. But he's

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01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 1: a system player. If you give him a good run game,

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Speaker 1: a good all line, which Cincinnati totally lacked a year ago,

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01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 1: good weapons on the em, enough of the defense so

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Speaker 1: that you don't have to say to Andy Dalton, hey, Andy,

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01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 1: you got to put up thirty this week. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a very efficient, effective quarterback and I think he

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01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 1: can still play just like that. You have to know

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Speaker 1: what he is and what he isn't. If you sign

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01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, he's not Drew Brees. You know, you have

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01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 1: to understand that. But if you have a solid football team,

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01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 1: you can line up Andy Dalton and he can be

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01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:27,760
Speaker 1: a very efficient quarterback. This question, when is the appropriate

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01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 1: time to evaluate a team's draft. I mean some people

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01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:36,720
Speaker 1: are doing it last Saturday night. Settle earlier made a

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Speaker 1: second of picks made. You got to have your final evaluation,

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Speaker 1: your definitive evaluation. Um, well, look to me, the evaluation

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Speaker 1: of a draft obviously is down the road. But the

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Speaker 1: way I look at this is, I know, now there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people who get a chance to

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01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 1: study tape. And I'm not just talking about people in

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Speaker 1: the league. I'm talking about sort of this industry that

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01:51:57,200 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 1: grew up of you know, sort of scout who who

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01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:03,640
Speaker 1: study Internet scouts, whatever you want to call them, but

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01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 1: they do study, and I have great respect for a

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01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 1: lot of these people who work at it. We all

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01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 1: evaluate players our way. So to me, a draft is

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01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:15,120
Speaker 1: simply based on my evaluation and a player based on

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01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 1: the team that he that drafted them. That's how I

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Speaker 1: evaluate it. I'll be right on some I like to

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01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 1: think I'm right on more than not, but I'll be

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01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 1: wrong on others. So that's the only way I can

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01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 1: evaluate a draft, you know. So like you know, when

2213
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,480
Speaker 1: team like the Eagles takes Jalen Rieger over Justin Jefferson,

2214
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 1: I like Rieger on tape, and I also understand the

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01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 1: reason why they did that, So you know, it's that's

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01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 1: the way I do it. I gotta. I think that

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01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 1: when you it's easier almost to quantify or rate a

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01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:49,719
Speaker 1: draft almost in the moment that this is, like you said,

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01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:51,680
Speaker 1: like the moment the picks made, because you have to

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Speaker 1: put those picks in context, you know, to me, Greg,

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01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: because if you wait four years down the road, you

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01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 1: forget that the reason they made that pick over this

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01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 1: one was because nobody knew was for instance, nobody knew

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01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes was going to be an MVP in his

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01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 1: second year. No nobody knew. Nobody knew that they took

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01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: this guy over that guy because of the reasons they did,

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01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 1: and one of them was good, one of them was bad.

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01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 1: So I think the context of the picks is really

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01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 1: the most important thing about the draft. You can debate

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01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 1: all day every day about how good a player these

2231
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 1: guys turn into, because that's all unknown at the time

2232
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 1: of the draft. Yeah, well, when you have access to

2233
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:31,719
Speaker 1: the results, everything's easy. You know that that's an easy

2234
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 1: thing to say. I mean, look, Patrick Mahomes. I know

2235
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 1: teams that had Patrick Mahomes rated as the as the

2236
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 1: top quarterback in the draft. I also spoke to some

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01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 1: offensive coaches who are may nameless because I talked to

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01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people at the combine and they respect

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01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,280
Speaker 1: me and you know, we have great conversations. But I

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01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:51,599
Speaker 1: also spoke to some highly respected offensive coaches who told

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01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 1: me that they'd be nervous about taking Patrick Mahomes because

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01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 1: they spend you know, eighteen hours a day putting their

2243
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: offense together, and they weren't sure that he'd executed. So

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01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: now those are those people stupid? Of course not. They're

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01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 1: highly respected guys in the league. So you know, it's

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01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 1: it's always easy after the fact, right, Hey, great, thanks

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01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 1: for this. We'll talk again. Thank you very much. Thanks

2248
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:16,640
Speaker 1: great glove being with you. I hope you do it

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Speaker 1: again soon. We will. Thanks. Greg Gosal, executive producer analyst

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Speaker 1: NFL Matchup on ESPN, Senior producer at NFL Films. As

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01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:27,599
Speaker 1: you well know, Steve Greg is an expert on the draft.

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01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: Right he really does, he really doesn't know what he's

2253
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 1: talking about. Do you know that I'm learning? Maddy Glab

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Speaker 1: coming up next time the show One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalada Hell. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, John Murphy, Steve Tasker coming down the

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01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 1: home stretch here for another week. I can't believe it's

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01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 1: the end of a week, Steve. But we're happy to

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01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 1: have Maddi Glab on the line with us right now.

2260
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,320
Speaker 1: Bill Sabers, reporter from PSC. You can follow on our

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01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 1: follower on Twitter at mad Glab. Hello, Maddie, how are

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01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 1: you doing today? I'm doing good. Happy to be on

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01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 1: with you guys to wrap up the show on a Friday. Yeah,

2264
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 1: happy to have you. They can tell me about you.

2265
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:11,920
Speaker 1: You've been around a lot of athletic programs in college

2266
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 1: before he came to the Bills, like ten months ago.

2267
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 1: How did you like your first NFL draft? What did

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01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 1: you think? It was really cool? I knew it was

2269
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 1: going to be a long weekend in terms of hours

2270
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: worked and the sleep we would get would be a

2271
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 1: little so I'm glad I prepped myself for that, But

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01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it was so much fun. I really

2273
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,839
Speaker 1: wish I could have been at the facilities with everyone

2274
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 1: to enjoy it together. But it was a really cool

2275
01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 1: first draft to be a part of, and I enjoyed

2276
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 1: watching it. It was something to take your mind off

2277
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 1: of everything going on in our world. And yeah, it

2278
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:45,800
Speaker 1: was fun. But it Steve, as you well know, it

2279
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 1: really gets fun when you have a first round pick

2280
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 1: and you're looking for a quarterback like we were a

2281
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. That was dramatic and that was

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01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 1: really fun, wasn't it. Yes, Oh my gosh, I can't

2283
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 1: even imagine what those drafts would have been like. You

2284
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 1: remember that, Steve, that was fun? What ever do? And

2285
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 1: they traded up to get the guy, right, I mean right,

2286
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 1: the draft is still going on and they're trading up

2287
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 1: to get him. So it's pretty fun when things when

2288
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 1: the team is moving around and they've got a lot

2289
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 1: riding it and they've got a lot of draft capital.

2290
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 1: Picture the Buffalo Bills like the Miami Dolphins this year,

2291
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 1: with having all those draft picks and the capital and

2292
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 1: moving up from like, what was it ten to seven?

2293
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 1: I think that's that's what it was. What was your

2294
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 1: favorite part about this draft, Maddie? I know, it. It's

2295
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 1: fun in a long hours and there's a lot to

2296
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 1: be you know, that makes it rough on you. But

2297
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 1: what was your favorite part of this draft? I think

2298
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed seeing what it was like at gms

2299
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 1: and head coaches setups at their houses. I think that

2300
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:43,120
Speaker 1: was a look that we don't really get into their lives.

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01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 1: It was a lot more personal, which I enjoyed. And

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01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 1: then I was I was expecting Brandon being to move

2303
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 1: up at some point in this draft because everybody was saying,

2304
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 1: this guy is aggressive, he's done it before. If it's

2305
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 1: something's on the board that he likes that falls, they

2306
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 1: could trade up. So I was kind of expecting. We

2307
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 1: didn't see it, but I am very glad that AJ

2308
01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 1: dropped to us at number fifty four. Yeah, Madie, you

2309
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 1: have a friend, dude, what grew up next door to

2310
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 1: a right? Yes, that was insane. I didn't even notice.

2311
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 1: But one of my friends from Zoo grew up next

2312
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 1: to AJ. She's from Edwardsville. A lot of Edwardsville kids

2313
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 1: go to Miszoo because it's close to Saint Louis. And

2314
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 1: so I got a call at like two thirty in

2315
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 1: the morning on Friday night for my friend Lizzie, who

2316
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 1: was screaming on the phone explaining that we just drafted

2317
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: her neighbor and that she was so excited to come

2318
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:44,200
Speaker 1: to Bill's games with his family, and it was really

2319
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 1: cool to get to kind of learn a little bit

2320
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:49,240
Speaker 1: more about him from her standpoint and from what she said,

2321
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:52,919
Speaker 1: it just seems like he's going to be the perfect

2322
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 1: fit for this team. It seems like he'll really fit

2323
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 1: in culture wise, with the work ethic that he brings

2324
01:57:58,240 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 1: to this team, the way he was raised and the

2325
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,120
Speaker 1: way that he earned a starting job at Iowa. I

2326
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 1: think it'll be a seamless transition fitting into the locker room. Well,

2327
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:13,200
Speaker 1: the Bills continue to sign guys. They signed this guy.

2328
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard about him. His name's

2329
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 1: Brian Cox Junior. Do you have any idea the family

2330
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:23,000
Speaker 1: history that the Cox family has with Buffalo Bills here

2331
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 1: in Western New York. You're new to the scene, you

2332
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:26,840
Speaker 1: may not be familiar with this. Did you ever hear

2333
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 1: about Brian Cox Senior? So, when we announced that we

2334
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 1: had signed Brian Cox Junior, the first thing I saw

2335
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 1: on Twitter was a nice little video of Senior expressing

2336
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 1: how he felt about the Bills coming out onto the field.

2337
01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 1: So that was a nice little thing to see right away.

2338
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 1: And then, of course Brian was asked about it several

2339
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:53,400
Speaker 1: times in his media availability, which he did a great

2340
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 1: job of deflecting that question and kind of said, you know, yes,

2341
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 1: me and my dad have similarities, but we are also

2342
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 1: very different and my dad is very excited that I'm

2343
01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 1: now on the Bills. It turns out, Maddie he Brian

2344
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:12,800
Speaker 1: Cox Unior was directing his uh comments, oh we do

2345
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 1: he was we dropped Murph, you dropped out your your

2346
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 1: internet froze right in the middle of your question. That

2347
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 1: was bry to try again, murf, say it again. Now

2348
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,040
Speaker 1: now we got you go ahead. I'll just tell Maddie,

2349
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 1: it turns out that Brian Cott Senior made that gesture

2350
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 1: and you it wasn't the whole Bill's roster, all of us,

2351
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 1: you right, me right, Yeah, that's what I heard. Yeah,

2352
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 1: I did make in the championship game in Miami to

2353
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:51,280
Speaker 1: send the Bills to Super Bowl twenty eight. I did

2354
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:55,240
Speaker 1: deflect a Reggie Robery punt after beating a block of

2355
01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: Brian Cox Senior. So there you go. I do have

2356
01:59:57,560 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 1: that on him. Mandie we had Sean McDermot on our

2357
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 1: show yesterday you talking with the media group after that.

2358
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, and well, there are a

2359
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 1: lot of things I liked about what coach McDermott said.

2360
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 1: The best thing he said that I really kind of

2361
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 1: dug into is when he talked about the Bill strategy

2362
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:17,720
Speaker 1: for these players to find a way. You don't have

2363
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 1: the weightlifting equipment you want, you're not able to run

2364
02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:22,160
Speaker 1: where you want, you can't pay a pitch and catch

2365
02:00:22,240 --> 02:00:24,760
Speaker 1: with the receivers, and McDermott said their motto is find

2366
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 1: a way. I liked that. Yeah, I like it too,

2367
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 1: and I think it's really important, especially in a time

2368
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:33,040
Speaker 1: like this, to develop a motto in the virtual offseason,

2369
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:36,800
Speaker 1: something that these players can grasp onto, especially all your

2370
02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 1: new rookies, they can grasp onto three words and have

2371
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,800
Speaker 1: that help motivate them. And of course that's what they're

2372
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:47,040
Speaker 1: going to do. This team. The staff is going to

2373
02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 1: find a way to make this competitive. They're going to

2374
02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 1: find a way to get better through this. They're going

2375
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:53,760
Speaker 1: to find a way to bond through this. I have

2376
02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:57,160
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind that the Bills will come

2377
02:00:57,200 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 1: out of this looking better than they did entering the

2378
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:04,080
Speaker 1: off season, Mattie, you spend a lot of time running

2379
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 1: in the run up to the draft, keeping track of

2380
02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:09,400
Speaker 1: all the mock drafts, and I'm still I mean, I'll

2381
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:11,200
Speaker 1: give you a chance to digest it, and later on

2382
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 1: I want you to come back and say how accurate

2383
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:17,560
Speaker 1: or if anybody was even close, but also how accurate? Yeah,

2384
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 1: I also want to know that what was the national

2385
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:25,800
Speaker 1: media reaction to the way the Bills drafted was. It

2386
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:29,040
Speaker 1: seems as though it was pretty positive. Yeah, definitely. I

2387
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:33,040
Speaker 1: mean people were raving about the Ebanessa pick and how

2388
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 1: people think he's going to fit into this scheme and Buffalo.

2389
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 1: And I think that's what a lot of these national

2390
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:44,600
Speaker 1: analysts and NFL analysts taking the consideration with draft picks

2391
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:47,959
Speaker 1: is how does this pick fit into your scheme, especially

2392
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 1: during time where we're not really sure what this off

2393
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 1: season is going to be like. So if you have

2394
02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:56,800
Speaker 1: to do a lot of tinkering and moving around to

2395
02:01:57,040 --> 02:02:00,160
Speaker 1: a player and a lot of learning it, maybe it's

2396
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 1: not the best pick because who knows when everybody's gonna

2397
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:06,200
Speaker 1: see each other. And it seemed like the Bill's got

2398
02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:09,440
Speaker 1: a lot of A and B grades with the offseason

2399
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 1: editions with the NFL Draft, and I think a lot

2400
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:16,680
Speaker 1: of people believe that they added to the areas that

2401
02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:18,560
Speaker 1: they needed to add to. It wasn't like in the

2402
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:22,080
Speaker 1: second and third round you're getting these head scratcher picks

2403
02:02:22,160 --> 02:02:25,160
Speaker 1: where you're like, why did we draft this position or

2404
02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:27,840
Speaker 1: why did he do this with the third round pick. No,

2405
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:30,440
Speaker 1: you get a defensive end in the second round, and

2406
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:33,400
Speaker 1: then the third round you get a compliment to Devin's singletary.

2407
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:35,560
Speaker 1: A lot of these picks made a lot of sense,

2408
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:38,280
Speaker 1: and then some of the more questionable ones could be

2409
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:41,480
Speaker 1: Jake from and Tyler Bass. But honestly, I think that

2410
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:44,840
Speaker 1: shows just how comfortable the Bills are with their roster.

2411
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:48,440
Speaker 1: And Brandon Bean's been very clear about once you get

2412
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 1: into the later rounds, it's about who has a chance

2413
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 1: to actually earn a jersey on this team, not necessarily depths.

2414
02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 1: It's who can get onto this roster with these later

2415
02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:02,480
Speaker 1: round picks. And to your point about the mock draft, Steve,

2416
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 1: we tracked more than one hundred and only three people

2417
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 1: mocked aj Epanessa to the Bills. One person got him

2418
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 1: in a mock draft to the Bills. After the Stefan

2419
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 1: Diggs trade. What does that person win? Is there a

2420
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:22,640
Speaker 1: parting gift or something for them? They must win something, right,

2421
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:26,760
Speaker 1: they went on High five. Who was it, you know,

2422
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to quit. It was from CBS Sports.

2423
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:32,720
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly the writer, but they're about five

2424
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:35,920
Speaker 1: CBS Sports writers who who were doing mock drafts. And

2425
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 1: he came up with Lowe and I think it was

2426
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 1: like four days before the draft. And yeah, oh he

2427
02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:44,720
Speaker 1: had him in the second not in the first round. Yeah,

2428
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:48,160
Speaker 1: he had him the second number. That's impressive. Okay, that's impressive.

2429
02:03:48,160 --> 02:03:50,080
Speaker 1: We gotta find that guy. We gotta find that guy.

2430
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:53,600
Speaker 1: Find a buffalo, entertain them, maybe, Matt, you gotta find

2431
02:03:53,680 --> 02:04:00,720
Speaker 1: out who had the latest mocked, the latest pick correct

2432
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:02,600
Speaker 1: in the mock draft, even if they didn't get any

2433
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:05,000
Speaker 1: other pick right, who got the Like if somebody get

2434
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick right way, you know what I mean,

2435
02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:12,480
Speaker 1: the later pick who found the latest accurate pick in

2436
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:17,560
Speaker 1: their minds might might win it. Well, there were quite

2437
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:20,400
Speaker 1: a few people that mocked Zach Moss to us at

2438
02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:23,240
Speaker 1: eighty six. I think there were five mock drafts that

2439
02:04:23,400 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 1: had Zack Moss going to the Bills. At six. So

2440
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:30,880
Speaker 1: that was he was the second most popular mocked pick

2441
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 1: to the Bills in the second round. That's amazing. Yeah.

2442
02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 1: So all right, Maddie, you've got a game you want

2443
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 1: to play with us today. Guess that stat. This always

2444
02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 1: scares me. I always look bad in these situations. It

2445
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 1: is Greg Cosal pointed out one hundred times, Steve well

2446
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:52,760
Speaker 1: knows everything. I don't know much exactly Greg on the phone,

2447
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 1: Jay having said that again for this segment, better get

2448
02:04:57,160 --> 02:04:58,800
Speaker 1: that in a loop where Murphy hit a button and

2449
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:02,240
Speaker 1: just have co sales voice say Steve as you well know,

2450
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:05,480
Speaker 1: Go ahead, man, he ask the question. Steve will know him.

2451
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we've got seven questions here. We're

2452
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:10,720
Speaker 1: gonna play guests. The stat I'm gonna give you a

2453
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 1: number and some multiple choice options as to what this

2454
02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 1: number is. So here we go. The number two is

2455
02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 1: the number two the number of touchdowns Dane Jackson had

2456
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:25,360
Speaker 1: at pit Is it the number of stars Dane Jackson

2457
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:28,480
Speaker 1: had coming out of high school? Or is the number

2458
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:31,800
Speaker 1: two the number of fource fumbles that Dane Jackson had

2459
02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:34,920
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Oh, it's a good one. I'm gonna

2460
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with touchdowns a pit. He was a

2461
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 1: great high school I mean, he was a great high

2462
02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:41,080
Speaker 1: school football and basketball player, so I'm sure he was

2463
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:44,360
Speaker 1: like a four or five star player. But I'm I'll

2464
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:46,520
Speaker 1: go with the touchdowns he had a pit. I'm gonna

2465
02:05:46,520 --> 02:05:52,920
Speaker 1: go fumbles. Okay, he had one touchdown at Pitt and

2466
02:05:53,120 --> 02:05:57,360
Speaker 1: he had zero forced fumbles last season. So two is

2467
02:05:57,400 --> 02:06:01,000
Speaker 1: the number of stars that Dane Jackson had coming out

2468
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 1: of high school. You start to NFL player, baby, well,

2469
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:08,120
Speaker 1: I stay close to home, right Coreopolis did? All right,

2470
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 1: let's go play now I'm over one, So here we

2471
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 1: go the leaderboard. No points for both of you. Okay,

2472
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:19,640
Speaker 1: two thousand, three hundred and twenty two yards Is two thousand,

2473
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 1: three hundred twenty two yards a number of rushing yards

2474
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,520
Speaker 1: Zach Moss had in twenty eighteen and the twenty nineteen combined.

2475
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 1: Is it the number of passing yards Jake from had

2476
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:32,000
Speaker 1: in his freshman year? Or is two thousand, three hundred

2477
02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:35,320
Speaker 1: twenty two yards the number of receiving yards Isaiah Hodgins

2478
02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:40,280
Speaker 1: had at Oregon State. Here's a good question, Stephen. First year,

2479
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:42,360
Speaker 1: I'll go first. I think it's the rushing yards for

2480
02:06:42,480 --> 02:06:47,040
Speaker 1: Zach Moss in eighteen nineteen. I'll go with the Jake

2481
02:06:47,120 --> 02:06:50,800
Speaker 1: From passing yards in this freshman year. Okay, so far

2482
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:56,240
Speaker 1: not good. Two thousand, three hundred twenty two yards is

2483
02:06:56,600 --> 02:06:59,640
Speaker 1: see the number of receiving yards Isaiah Hodgins had at

2484
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:03,280
Speaker 1: Oregon State. Zach Moss had two thousand, five hundred twelve

2485
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:06,040
Speaker 1: rushing yards in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, and Jake From

2486
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:09,000
Speaker 1: had two thousand, six hundred and fifteen passing yards his

2487
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:14,320
Speaker 1: freshman year. So yeah, now you're separating two or three

2488
02:07:14,360 --> 02:07:16,640
Speaker 1: hundred yards. Yeah, they're two. And by the way, you're

2489
02:07:16,680 --> 02:07:18,520
Speaker 1: having too much fun doing this, making us look bad

2490
02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:22,600
Speaker 1: ahead to enjoy for you. Ready, you guys are gonna

2491
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:27,040
Speaker 1: get this right. Twenty is the number twenty the number

2492
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 1: of field goals Tyler Bass made in twenty nineteen. Is

2493
02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:34,839
Speaker 1: it be the number of touchdowns Gabe Davis had at UCF?

2494
02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:38,480
Speaker 1: Or is the number twenty the number of TfL's aj

2495
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:43,920
Speaker 1: Epanessa had in twenty nineteen? Iowa, it's Gabe Davis touchdowns.

2496
02:07:44,440 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 1: I know that one, all right, I'll take a then

2497
02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:51,600
Speaker 1: I'll take your first one way to go, mrth Oh,

2498
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 1: I got lucky. I just took it because Steve didn't

2499
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, no, you had, Gabe Dads. The number

2500
02:08:00,120 --> 02:08:02,480
Speaker 1: field goals Tyler Bass had in twenty nineteen, he was

2501
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 1: twenty of twenty eight. The twenty field goals made was

2502
02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:08,960
Speaker 1: a school record. Gabe Davis had twenty three touchdowns at UCF,

2503
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:14,840
Speaker 1: and Aja Epanessa had fourteen TFLs last season. One more,

2504
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:17,080
Speaker 1: we have time for one more. I've been reading some

2505
02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:19,160
Speaker 1: of these stats, you know, in the bios of these guys.

2506
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm getting now, I'm getting them confused. I know it's tough. This,

2507
02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:25,360
Speaker 1: this is not easy. Okay, first beating me right now?

2508
02:08:26,240 --> 02:08:31,440
Speaker 1: Guess the stat The number is eight? Is eight the

2509
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:35,160
Speaker 1: number of games Gabriel Davis had with one hundred plus

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Speaker 1: receiving yards at UCF. Is eight the number of touchdowns

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis scored in twenty nineteen, or is it c

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Speaker 1: the number of interceptions Jake frown through in twenty nineteen. Remember,

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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis had a total of twenty three touchdowns. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say the number of one hundred yards reception games. Okay, Steve,

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Speaker 1: what are you going to say? Um, I'll say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's true. I think that's number one hundred

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Speaker 1: yard reception, one hundred yard reception games thinking name you

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Speaker 1: guys are both right. Dave Davis had eight games where

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Speaker 1: he had one hundred or more receiving yards at UCF.

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Speaker 1: Five of those tame last season. I'm still there on one. Gosh, yep,

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Speaker 1: you were one for four. I was led, as you know,

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Speaker 1: as you Yeah, you just keep playing that, Maddie, right

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Speaker 1: up till three o'clock. Please, I need a morale boost

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Speaker 1: after that great Cosales segment. I don't know anything. Steve

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Speaker 1: knows everything in parent Maddie. Thanks you, yeah, thanks, Maddie.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, No problem, guys, it was fun.

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Speaker 1: You have a good weekend too. Maddie's Glad multi media

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Speaker 1: journalist covers the Bills Sabers, the bandits uh Each is

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Speaker 1: the Bill Sabers reporter for PSC. You can follow her

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at mad Glad. Are you okay, Steve? I

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Speaker 1: don't want your I'm a little bit down self esteem.

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Speaker 1: Just take a hit. Yeah, let's get Greglo sell back.

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Speaker 1: I'm to build you up. Maybe the last couple of

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Speaker 1: segments here, we'll have Greg come on and tell you

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Speaker 1: how much you know. I'm back on earth. We got

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Speaker 1: a break and then we're back with more One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Collat of Health. This is Buffalo Bills Rady.

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Speaker 1: So what have we learned from today's show? Brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company, and

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. We had Mike reesan first hour ESPN

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Speaker 1: Nation reporter for the New England Patriots. Covers of Patriots,

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Speaker 1: we asked him how the New England region is handling

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Speaker 1: losing both Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski. Here's what he said.

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Speaker 1: I would start with a period of mourning. John like mourning.

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Speaker 1: It has been raining quite a bit this month. I

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Speaker 1: think those are reflective of a lot of tears that

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Speaker 1: were shed by many, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people feel like, you know, it hurts. It's gonna hurt

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Speaker 1: to see Tom Brady in another uniform, So I would

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Speaker 1: start there. I think that one is sort of independent.

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Speaker 1: I think the Rob Gunkowski one, because he had retired

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Speaker 1: last year. I think many people never really factored him

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Speaker 1: into the mix for them this year, So I think

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Speaker 1: that one's a little bit different. He's talking about what

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be like in New England. We also had

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Speaker 1: build sixth round draft pick Isaiah Hodchins on the air

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Speaker 1: with US from Oregon State. We talked to him about

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Speaker 1: what it was like to wait until the sixth round

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Speaker 1: when he was chosen. Here's what he Here's what he

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Speaker 1: had to say. So it's definitely a little frustrating when

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Speaker 1: he's sitting there and just seeing the other guys took

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02:11:33,560 --> 02:11:35,560
Speaker 1: before you and your name not getting called in every team.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I knew that God had a plan

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Speaker 1: and I said, s faithful and doing them. He goes

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02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:41,040
Speaker 1: to the perfect team that he wanted me to go to,

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Speaker 1: So you know, I didn't tried to get there and

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Speaker 1: stay level headed, and I got that phone calling on

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Speaker 1: Plus to happen. You know, there's some people who never

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Speaker 1: get a phone call and never get drafted at all.

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Speaker 1: So God is round. I know it was just an

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Speaker 1: opportunity in the door. And whether your first round and

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Speaker 1: six round, you still have to go and make the

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Speaker 1: team and should have to go compete and produce her

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Speaker 1: and to see them. So I plan on doing a

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Speaker 1: couple of the good guests areas Yah Hodgens and Mike

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Speaker 1: Reecee and Maddi Glaba moment Ago and as you well know,

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Speaker 1: Steve Great Cosell is always a good guess, right, Well

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Speaker 1: let it go man, Well he is. I'm not thinking.

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Speaker 1: I just thought you wouldn't respond if I unless I

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Speaker 1: did say, as you well know, that's the only way

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Speaker 1: you can respond to Greg Cosell. Well, I will respond

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Speaker 1: more pleasantly, that's for sure, everything you say. But you

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Speaker 1: will know our Twitter full today, which AFC East quarterback

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Speaker 1: under the most pressure to succeed in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: thirds of it respondents twelve hundred respondents say, Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: surprises me a little bit. Sam Darnold twenty nine percent.

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Speaker 1: Jared stead Of four percent fits or to a two

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Speaker 1: percent Steve, have a great weekend. You two Murphs did

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Speaker 1: a great week busy Friday. Be careful over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we're gonna do something other than just what

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Speaker 1: we always do. We sit at home, you know, right,

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Speaker 1: So I hear you. We'll see We're back on Monday

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Speaker 1: at noon. Production assistance from Kelly Rude, JJ Turito, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Cargi Teams, robo board ops, Brighten Wilson and Joe Debiance

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Speaker 1: are Producer Jay Harris see him Monday at noon with

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