Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is Jackie Goldschneider with two Jersey Jays,
Speaker 1: but today I am solo because I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about something. So this week, Kelly Osborne gave
Speaker 1: an interview to E News where she basically said that
Speaker 1: people who are against die drugs like ozembic are either
Speaker 1: jealous or poor. So her exact words were, people hate
Speaker 1: on it because they want to do it, and the
Speaker 1: people who hate on it the most are the people
Speaker 1: who are secretly doing it or pissed off that they
Speaker 1: can't afford it. She then called the drugs amazing and
Speaker 1: a much more interesting way to lose weight than exercise.
Speaker 1: So let's bypass her as a public figure encouraging people
Speaker 1: to go on die drugs and discouraging exercise as a
Speaker 1: boring way to get in shape. Let's put that aside,
Speaker 1: because that in and of itself is so irresponsible. And
Speaker 1: let me also say that although I co host this
Speaker 1: podcast with the incredible Jennifer Esler, these opinions today are
Speaker 1: mine alone, not Gens, who, as you know, has been
Speaker 1: and is on semaglutides. And finally, my thoughts on Kelly's
Speaker 1: statements are not aimed at people who use these drugs
Speaker 1: for obesity, type two diabetes, or binge eating disorder. So
Speaker 1: here we go, Kelly Osborne. You are a grown woman,
Speaker 1: and obviously you can and have done whatever you want
Speaker 1: to your body, and you can rationalize your decisions however
Speaker 1: you'd like. But when you publicly declare that people with
Speaker 1: concerns and apprehensions about putting a mysterious drug into their
Speaker 1: body are either jealous or poor, you delegitimize some very
Speaker 1: serious and very real concerns that people like me are
Speaker 1: entitled to have and entitled two voice. I could be
Speaker 1: on this crap tomorrow if I want to, because every
Speaker 1: medspot in New Jersey that I pass is handing it
Speaker 1: out like candy. And I also have enough money to
Speaker 1: be on it for twenty lifetimes. So I am neither
Speaker 1: jealous of people using ozembic. So I'm neither jealous of
Speaker 1: people using ozembic. I'm not secretly using ozembic, and I
Speaker 1: am certainly not too poor to afford it. So I'd
Speaker 1: like to respond and reiterate why some of us might
Speaker 1: take real issue with drugs like ozembic. So first, I
Speaker 1: see the way that this is going, and every day
Speaker 1: it's becoming less and less acceptable to be overweight. And
Speaker 1: that's a very dangerous world to live in, and it's
Speaker 1: a world I don't want to live in. A few
Speaker 1: years ago, we were embracing curves and fuller bodies, and now,
Speaker 1: with so many people going on these drugs, especially public
Speaker 1: facing people who are people we watch and emulate, we
Speaker 1: are seeing rail thin bodies instead of healthy, normal bodies
Speaker 1: become the norm. We're seeing Heroine Sheep normalized again. We
Speaker 1: are seeing skinny as the new average woman's body. And
Speaker 1: many of us have daughters like me. I have a
Speaker 1: thirteen year old daughter, and sometimes she grabs her thighs
Speaker 1: and asks me why they're so big, even though they
Speaker 1: are not. And sometimes she hates her stomach, even though
Speaker 1: it's perfect. And some of that is my fault, because
Speaker 1: I very publicly recovered from an eating disorder, and I
Speaker 1: let my daughter watch me mistreat my body for most
Speaker 1: of her life. But all the things that I've tried
Speaker 1: to do to undo those lessons that I've taught her
Speaker 1: are being overshadowed by all the newly emaciated bodies that
Speaker 1: she sees everywhere. And now she's growing up in a
Speaker 1: world where It's almost unacceptable to not be thin because
Speaker 1: everybody can be thin now, everybody can get on diet
Speaker 1: drugs now, and not being thin means you must be poor,
Speaker 1: right Kelly? And no one wants to look like the
Speaker 1: poor fat girl, do they? I know so many women
Speaker 1: on these drugs. It is everywhere, and every every day
Speaker 1: there are more and more people taking it. And as
Speaker 1: everyone around me suddenly has their ribs and shoulder blades
Speaker 1: sticking out, I get scared for the world and the
Speaker 1: values that we are creating. So where are we going
Speaker 1: as a society? Where are we trending when it comes
Speaker 1: to women's bodies. That has nothing to do with being poor,
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with being jealous. That is
Speaker 1: a very real concern. And by the way, what if,
Speaker 1: like Kelly said, you are too poor to afford it?
Speaker 1: Then what then? How do you get thin like everybody else?
Speaker 1: Maybe by starving yourself or throwing up or taking a
Speaker 1: different kind of dry drug. When skinny becomes the default
Speaker 1: and the new normal, that's the kind of standards we
Speaker 1: are imposing on the average woman now, and it is
Speaker 1: very dangerous. Maybe some of us are concerned because these
Speaker 1: drugs lack long term studies on people who are not
Speaker 1: suffering from type two diabetes, and we worry. We worry
Speaker 1: for our friends and our sisters, and our moms and
Speaker 1: our daughters who are injecting themselves with the drug that
Speaker 1: affects so many of their organs. Ozembic mimics the hormone
Speaker 1: called glp one, which helps the pancreas release insulin. I
Speaker 1: am not a doctor or a medical professional, but this
Speaker 1: is what I gather from research. So semaglutides stimulate your
Speaker 1: pancreas to release insulin. It also stops your liver from
Speaker 1: producing glucagon. Semaglutides sends signals to the appetite center in
Speaker 1: your brain to reduce hunger and increase fullness. It also
Speaker 1: slows down your digestion and your gastric emptying, helping you
Speaker 1: feel full longer. So basically, it affects your pancreas, your liver,
Speaker 1: your brain, your endocrinal system, your intestines, and your stomach.
Speaker 1: Common side effects of ozempic are nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea,
Speaker 1: which all lead to appetites of Russian and hence, with
Speaker 1: all of that, you lose weight. Other side effects can
Speaker 1: include inflammation of your pancreas, which is called pancreatitis, changes
Speaker 1: in your vision, hypoglycemia which is low blood sugar, kidney
Speaker 1: problems like kidney failure, serious allergic reactions, ballbladder problems, thyroid
Speaker 1: c cell tumors, and medullary thyroid carcinoma. So maybe some
Speaker 1: of us are worried about that that a largely unstudied drug.
Speaker 1: When it comes to non diabetic bodies that people we
Speaker 1: love are taking, maybe we worried about their muscle. Maybe
Speaker 1: we worry about their muscle loss that we've seen people
Speaker 1: we love experience, which is very dangerous, especially for an
Speaker 1: older woman's health. Maybe we worry about malnutrition and hair
Speaker 1: loss and all the other things that can happen to
Speaker 1: your body when you do not eat enough. Maybe we're
Speaker 1: worried about what they might find in a few years
Speaker 1: in people we love who are using these drugs, because
Speaker 1: a lot of people we love are using them, and
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with being poor or being jealous.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're worried about what happens when you have to
Speaker 1: come off of these drugs, because unless you plan on
Speaker 1: staying on them until the day you die, once you
Speaker 1: come off almost all the studies show that you gain
Speaker 1: back most, if not all, of the weight that you lost.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're worried about all the people who will then
Speaker 1: be left spiraling because their skinny body is slowly disappearing
Speaker 1: and they're desperate to get it back. And here's where
Speaker 1: I have skin in the game. Maybe we're worried about
Speaker 1: all the new eating disorders in cases of anorexia, and
Speaker 1: all the anxiety and mental health issues that might cause.
Speaker 1: And trust me when I say that anorexia is a
Speaker 1: living hell. I know because I lived there for eighteen years.
Speaker 1: I starved myself for eighteen years, close to death because
Speaker 1: I was so desperate to be thin. I hated the
Speaker 1: body that I lived in. What if someone like me
Speaker 1: is legitimately worried that all people that never had eating
Speaker 1: disorders before yet so used to being thin that they
Speaker 1: don't want to go back ever, no matter what, even
Speaker 1: if they have a side effect that forces them to
Speaker 1: choose between their health and their diet drugs. Maybe we're
Speaker 1: worried because the drugs are close to being approved for
Speaker 1: use in children. When I was sixteen, I was so
Speaker 1: desperate to change my body. I would have been first
Speaker 1: in line for these drugs. I shudder when I think
Speaker 1: of my undeveloped adolescent body being injected with diet drugs
Speaker 1: so I could shut off my hunger. Instead of learning
Speaker 1: healthy ways to manage my weight, I would have given
Speaker 1: myself a life sentence. Gladly, I would have begged for
Speaker 1: it so that I could be thin. And we know
Speaker 1: how this goes. It gets approved for kids with certain BMIs,
Speaker 1: and then you have doctors and medspas that'll figure out
Speaker 1: ways to tweak that and get it into your child's
Speaker 1: hands with not quite the BMI you're supposed to have,
Speaker 1: just like they did for adults. And as kids start
Speaker 1: using ozembic, and add to all of the ozembic success
Speaker 1: stories that we see on TikTok, then you've got an
Speaker 1: adolescent trend like Stanley cups and sol Ly Janeiro products,
Speaker 1: except this one is potentially very dangerous. Maybe some of
Speaker 1: us are worried about all the teenage girls we know
Speaker 1: suddenly feeling like they have to be on ozembic, also
Speaker 1: including my little girl. Maybe we're worried about people like you, Kelly,
Speaker 1: who belittle people who aren't on diet drugs, who make
Speaker 1: it seem like there's something wrong with us for being wary,
Speaker 1: or for not wanting to be rale thin, or for
Speaker 1: people who want to feel okay about living in a
Speaker 1: larger body. Maybe it's people like you who make it
Speaker 1: so that when people see someone who's overweight, we assume
Speaker 1: that that person must be poor or have some medical
Speaker 1: condition that means they can't use osmpic. Maybe we worry
Speaker 1: that people like you will look at anyone who's not
Speaker 1: thin and say, what's wrong with them? Why are they
Speaker 1: still fat? Or maybe we just can't stand going to
Speaker 1: dinner and being the only one at the table with
Speaker 1: an appetite. Maybe selfishly, we hate the way that makes
Speaker 1: us feel when we watch our tablemates order an appetizer
Speaker 1: as their meal and pick at it. Maybe we hate
Speaker 1: the negative self talk we go through when we're the
Speaker 1: only ones at the table eating, when we ask ourselves
Speaker 1: should I keep eating even though we're hungry? But we
Speaker 1: feel bad about finishing our meals because no one around
Speaker 1: us is finishing their meal. Maybe some of us hate that,
Speaker 1: or maybe that's just me. And this is all not
Speaker 1: to mention the many diabetic piece people who cannot access
Speaker 1: their medication because of this. A zembic trend. And if
Speaker 1: that is not a legitimate concern, and I don't know
Speaker 1: what is, either way, be careful with your words, Kelly Osborne.
Speaker 1: I'm very happy for you. If you're happy, if you
Speaker 1: love being skin and bones, and you have no concerns
Speaker 1: over your health, and no concerns about your mom's health
Speaker 1: as she dips under one hundred pounds after losing forty
Speaker 1: two pounds in four months and saying that she can't
Speaker 1: gain anything back for some mysterious reason. If you have
Speaker 1: no concerns about that, then I'm happy for you. I'm
Speaker 1: happy that you're happy, and I hope you don't go
Speaker 1: on to suffer any of the potential side effects people
Speaker 1: are not talking about. I just asked that, as a
Speaker 1: public figure and an influencer, you be careful with your words,
Speaker 1: because there are women listening and teenagers and preteens listening
Speaker 1: and watching you. And shaming people who choose, for whatever
Speaker 1: reason not to use a drug that makes them thin
Speaker 1: is a very dangerous and irresponsible thing to do. And
Speaker 1: that's all I have to say. I gotta go now, guys,
Speaker 1: It's time for me to eat