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Speaker 1: Tour announcement starts now. Hello everyone, it is me Sam

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Speaker 1: and I am going on tour this summer. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: my hour of incredible stand up comedy and I would love,

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Speaker 1: love love to see you there. So I will be

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, DC, Boston, Philly, and

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Speaker 1: maybe a couple more. But if you are in any

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Speaker 1: of those places, please please please get tickets. I would

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Speaker 1: love to see you all there. And I'm really really

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Speaker 1: excited because I love touring. Now, so see you there, Okay,

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Speaker 1: ANDREWI yep. Bye.

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Speaker 2: Podcast starts now. Wow.

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Speaker 1: If you can believe it, summer is just around the corner.

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Speaker 1: And some would argue it's depending on how you view time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've been hearing a lot about the

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Speaker 3: summer solstice this year. Really June twentieth. They're saying, once again,

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Speaker 3: it's on the twentieth.

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Speaker 1: I saw the twenty first.

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Speaker 3: It's as I was saying, on the twenty first. Is

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Speaker 3: the twentieth or twenty first? No one knows.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those you can't have another debate on air.

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Speaker 3: I know I can't. I don't care. I just want

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Speaker 3: it on record. I don't I don't care.

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Speaker 1: It can be the.

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Speaker 3: Twentieth or the twenty first, twenty first, it's the twenty first.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, starting right off the bat with a

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Speaker 3: big mistake.

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Speaker 1: Big mistake.

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Speaker 3: So summer's around the corner and or already here, depending

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Speaker 3: on when this comes out. Obviously we're recording February first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Christmas nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 3: It's Christmas nineteen ninety five, and we are so excited

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Speaker 3: for the big blockbusters this year. Yeah, I hear their

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Speaker 3: introduction for a movie called Titanic, and it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: it's going to be a huge smash. In nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 3: we did an episode about the Things of the Summer

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Speaker 3: two years ago, and then we didn't do it last

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Speaker 3: year because we actually decided that our predictions the first

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Speaker 3: two years. But basically to sort of celebrate the tradition

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Speaker 3: of you know, magazines back when those existed, and various

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Speaker 3: other publications naming things this is a song of the summer,

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Speaker 3: this is the movie of the summer, this is the

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Speaker 3: accessory of the summer. We figure we can kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, When do you think summer really does start.

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Speaker 3: I think summer starts right after New Year's the seeds

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Speaker 3: are planted. I think the seeds are planted on February first.

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Speaker 1: February first, yes, okay.

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Speaker 2: Because January is still part of the holiday season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think the seeds are planted February first,

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Speaker 3: and then for each person, each person blooms at a

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Speaker 3: different rate, you know what I mean. Like, you'll wake

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Speaker 3: that's the that's the blooming happening. You're like, I'm in

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Speaker 3: summer as choice. Van would say, yes, so I think

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Speaker 3: it's actually completely valid if it happens for you in March,

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Speaker 3: anywhere between March and July even.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when do you think summer starts?

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Speaker 2: That's interesting? I think June first? Hard really yes.

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Speaker 1: That being said, however, you know when June first comes around,

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Speaker 1: I've made this mistake over one hundred times. I'll start,

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Speaker 1: I'll be like, well, summer will come June first, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll say, then let's go on a trip June tenth.

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Speaker 1: I go to a beach on June tenth, and you

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Speaker 1: better believe it's freezing as fuck.

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Speaker 2: I'm cold, I'm chilly. It's not summer yet.

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Speaker 3: What beaches are you going to on June tenth that

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Speaker 2: Most or all? I'm popping in. No matter what beach

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Speaker 2: I go to, it's cold as hell on June tenth.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, of course, what happens is it gets

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Speaker 3: cold over the winter, and so you're actually dipping into

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Speaker 3: February temperature waters. That's something a lot of people don't

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Speaker 3: tell you. That's why you have to wait until August

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Speaker 3: to go to the beach.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, I here, I would go to

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, what's nice about Reese is that, regardless of

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Speaker 2: You are not healthy.

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Speaker 3: If you're vibrating, you have literally a magnetic pull.

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Speaker 2: You can get sort of Virgin Mary style STDs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's literally like silverware that's being attracted to you

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Speaker 1: Whereas the Pacific Ocean, and you know, as I'm on

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Speaker 3: Are you going to the Pacific Ocean? Famously, the thing

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Speaker 3: and yet they've never stepped foot in it.

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Speaker 1: It's as closed as New York. I was as close

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Speaker 3: You can tell the points to go to Santa Monica.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy when people are like, well, the beach is

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Speaker 1: The beach is so far away.

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Speaker 3: Also, the concept of Venice Beach or like the concept

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No one is going to Venice Beach and dipping their

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Speaker 3: toe in. No, you're going to Venice Beach and going

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Speaker 3: to Julina.

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Speaker 1: No. And everyone's like, have you gone to Malibu? I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Well, that's a whole other story.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't have There isn't actually photographic or

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Speaker 2: And when they show it, it's always a big road.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm like, this actually doesn't look that amazing. I'm

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Speaker 1: also like, so Malibu is for private beaches. Everyone has

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Speaker 3: It literally is like uh, you know, a Darren Aronofsky

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Speaker 3: movie and they're like people just like just depravity, people

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Speaker 3: go there. Yeah, and unfortunately I don't. I'm I am

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Speaker 3: not in the wealthy circles where I have friends who

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Speaker 3: candidates that I say, give them another five years, we're

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I've been trying to like train myself to

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Speaker 1: It doesn't really give you that feeling until the very end.

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Speaker 3: I there's something special about this time for me, which

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Speaker 3: July tenth in Greece. Okay, And there's just that is

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Speaker 3: just on a selfish level, I'm like, what better gift

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Speaker 3: to plan a trip, a beach adjacent trip on July tenth.

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Speaker 1: That's fun.

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Speaker 2: That's because that's like middle.

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Speaker 3: Of the summer. It's not August, which is peak season,

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Speaker 3: feeling I'm feeling a kind of stress free, effortless excitement

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Speaker 3: because summer comes with stress, because you're like, I have

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Speaker 3: to plan at trips. It will cost approximately five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: I personally speaking have just wrapped on a bunch of

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Speaker 3: So I am not feel like if I didn't have this,

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Speaker 3: I would actually be very stressed. I wouldn't be ready

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Speaker 3: feeling about summer travel? Absolutely horrible that's what I thought.

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Speaker 3: I have no plans, I have no thing going on.

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Speaker 3: No one's inviting me, not no power Reagan, but no

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Speaker 1: And and I'm sort of like, people don't. This is

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Speaker 1: something I realized. No one knows where I live. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I do think no one knows where you live. No

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Speaker 3: the past almost ten years. But occasionally someone will be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: That's good for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Of course I back. Haven't left in six months.

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Speaker 1: No no one knows where I live, and I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't have my system.

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Speaker 3: Sere go in the Palm Springs. I think that your

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Speaker 3: Then somehow keep complaining about how you hate pomp Springs.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I got seventy eight text messages while we were

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Speaker 1: while we were recording on a group thread of every

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Speaker 1: gay guy that went to Palm Springs last year on

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Speaker 3: You have found this group of gay guys that is

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Speaker 1: It's not right.

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Speaker 3: It's really weird. It's like it's like if you cross

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Speaker 3: pollinated a bear, a Sam Bear, and like a sort

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Speaker 3: of George intellectual like hipster, like twenty tens hipster, and

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Speaker 3: you made them into one person. That's what this whole

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Speaker 2: It's actually insane how they're all like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird.

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Speaker 1: And I'm also like, so when you guys all go up,

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Speaker 1: this is always the question with them, like, so when's

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Speaker 3: In LA No one has had sex since the eighties,

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Speaker 3: not to They're saying, God, I wish Reagan was back in.

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Speaker 2: Office, so I could do it again.

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Speaker 3: So I could do it again.

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Speaker 1: I've been here and I know this is a broken

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Speaker 1: record at SAM.

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Speaker 2: But the horniness of this city, No, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It's I would say it's the sexual harassment is in

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Speaker 3: the air. Oh. I go out and I say, I'm

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Speaker 1: I just went for a run around the park and

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Speaker 1: ripping their shirt off and then they're the hottest person

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Speaker 1: And there's the sexual people are looking at you, people

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Speaker 1: are making eyes. It's weird. Everyone's ready to cheat. No,

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Speaker 1: it's sick, it's disgusting. I love this fucking town.

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Speaker 2: So let's kick it off.

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Speaker 1: food of the summer is fish. Wow, fish for summer groundbreaker.

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Speaker 1: But specifically I want to say fish as an accessory.

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Speaker 3: It's just one of those things that has a reputation

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Speaker 2: So my treat of the summer coffee cake genius.

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Speaker 3: My thing with coffee cake when you said this earlier

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Speaker 1: They're not going weird with it yet. That'll be next summer.

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Speaker 3: Okay. My dessert of the summer is soft served sorbet

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Speaker 3: And so I think we're seeing like a blood orange

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Speaker 3: That's a really important question.

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Speaker 1: I I just feel that, like I've been in multiple

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Speaker 3: But are we gonna get another drink? Not necessarily, So

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Speaker 1: Pretty much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they should come out with like a

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Speaker 3: and it's like, do you want a pen? Do you

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Speaker 2: That's a raising idea.

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Speaker 1: Also, you know how places have like you go to

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Speaker 3: Or even restaurants and bars and other places having partnerships

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Speaker 1: It's actually completely insane they aren't doing that already. Imagine

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Speaker 3: I actually feel like this is very like this is

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Speaker 2: Someone should be there.

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Speaker 3: you've been taking care of me. The waiter treats you

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Speaker 1: also like, you know me, knights are ruined when you

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Speaker 3: There should be a shuttle. There should be a shuttle

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Speaker 1: There should be a moving sidewalk that takes you to

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Speaker 3: There should be people whose job it is to carry you.

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Speaker 3: It should be it's one to one. There's an underclass.

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Speaker 3: I'm not in it. There's an underclass in their job.

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Speaker 3: They're paid by the state. They carry you from one

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Speaker 1: That's really just for summer. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: People who commit tax fraud.

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Speaker 3: that's a really good idea. There should be more humiliation

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Speaker 3: I love this. I feel like we could reach a

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Speaker 1: We know that.

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Speaker 3: Fine, I accept it, and I supported fully, of course,

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Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 3: Okay, love it, Love that. Okay, I have shape of

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Speaker 3: the summer, Okay, circles and dots say more.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: This was of course inspired by Rachel Sennet's Mark Jacob's

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Speaker 3: I agree, playful, yes, fun, I said, finally a blue.

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Speaker 3: It's like, what does the blue dot represent. It's in

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Speaker 1: Dots and circles are it.

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Speaker 3: You were making the point that we're not really in

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Speaker 1: A corner is really dangerous right now.

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Speaker 3: Like even every time you say summer is around the corner,

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Speaker 3: I kind of want to be like, don't say that.

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Speaker 1: No, it's around the bend.

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Speaker 3: It's around the bend. Yeah, because the.

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Speaker 3: I think. I think. I think circular shapes are big

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Speaker 1: I think you're a genius. We ordered a potato salad

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Speaker 1: They do need to bring pictures back to my news

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Speaker 1: no no. My brain was not ready for this.

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00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 3: And there was not enough octopus in that potato octopus salad.

439
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,360
Speaker 1: I got to say, there wasn't. But to be fair,

440
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,200
Speaker 1: they're intelligent, so it's probably for the best.

441
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 3: Oh right, So you should cut them up in tiny

442
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 3: pieces first, and so I don't know, and then you should.

443
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 3: They're so intelligent, you should sort of cut off one

444
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 3: of them. You should be like, we'll take a finger,

445
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,719
Speaker 3: but you can still go.

446
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,479
Speaker 2: You can still go, You're free to leave. Yeah.

447
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 3: I think there's something both comforting but also evocative about

448
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 3: a big circle. I mean, obviously the idea of a

449
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 3: black hole is both scary and also like, finally take me.

450
00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I mean, I'm liking circle.

451
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 1: I'm liking circle about okay, Okay, this is something that

452
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't know where it comes from.

453
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 2: Word of the Summer, Yes is whatever.

454
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm silencing my phone to give me my full attention.

455
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 1: Say more. So, this is something where I've just been

456
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 1: hearing both myself and others say whatever, and I don't

457
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 1: know who started it. I don't know where we heard it.

458
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a bit pluribus about it. Something's happening where

459
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: everyone's saying whatever and like wanting to be like they

460
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 1: want to brush stuff off. Yes, but and that you

461
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: kind of have to brush everything off right now. You said,

462
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 1: be like whatever, Yeah, but you also have to like

463
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 1: be knowing about it and be like, I know it's

464
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,640
Speaker 1: silly and stupid that I'm brushing things off because these

465
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 1: things are serious. So that's why you put the whatever

466
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 1: on it, because you're like, I'm not saying whatever, like

467
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm not actually brushing this off, but I'm like self

468
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: awarely brushing this off.

469
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: So whatever, whatever is sort.

470
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 3: Of like temporarily adopting a British accent to say something awkward.

471
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 3: It's sort of it's like there's an awkward Roman and

472
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 3: then you're like, all right, no, when you told.

473
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 1: Me that people, that's like the psychology behind it. That

474
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: really freaked me out.

475
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 3: Because I do that and I think whatever is obviously Unfortunately,

476
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 3: it has to do with kind of like millennial ambivalence

477
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 3: not being able to take responsibility for yourself. Like when

478
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 3: you're saying whatever, what you're doing is you're not committing

479
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 3: to whatever. No, you're not committing to saying I don't

480
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,959
Speaker 3: care about this because you've read an article about how

481
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 3: nihilism is bad or something. But you also are saying whatever,

482
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 3: you're not committing to it.

483
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: You're not committing And you know, I was saying cela

484
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: V for a while, but I don't think that quite

485
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: nails it.

486
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: Whatever is like truly.

487
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: Just like it's sort of like a it's our version

488
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: of just shoot me, you know, it's sort of like whatever.

489
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: Okay, word of the summer whatever, Yeah, okay, I have

490
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 3: activity of the summer. Air hockey love this now. I

491
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 3: kept seeing the word arcade, and that's not actually what

492
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,479
Speaker 3: I meant. What I think is in is like a

493
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 3: pool hall that also has air hockey tables games that

494
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 3: you play on a table. Yes, And I specifically am thinking,

495
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: imagine it's summer, it's so hot, you go into a

496
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 3: pool hall that is so air conditioned that you're literally

497
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 3: like all your pores are are closed shut, so air conditioned,

498
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 3: and you're having like a cold beer and you are

499
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: playing pool, playing air hockey, going from one to the other,

500
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 3: having tokens, being like, oh, I have some extra here,

501
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 3: and you give them to like some teens that maybe

502
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: don't have enough money to buy the air tokens. You're

503
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 3: part of a community. It's not cool. It's like in

504
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 3: an old, dirty pool hall, and it's actually an amazing

505
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: site of cultural exchange because you have the old timers

506
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: and the new people that are revitalizing the neighborhood. It's

507
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 3: ethical gentrification. You're not displacing anyone because the poolhole was

508
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 3: already like on its way out, so you're actually like

509
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: reinvigorating that community.

510
00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: I will say air hockey specifically, I love the magic

511
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: of that, the way that the puck sort of just

512
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: barely it's fun. Then I will say the danger. Of course,

513
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: you can hurt your little knuckles if the puck goes

514
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: flying ouch. And I also think it's one of those

515
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: games where a gentle touch can go a really long way,

516
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: and I think we as a society need to remember

517
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: that now more than ever.

518
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 3: I agree.

519
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: I think you you know, when you see a team

520
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: slam in it, oh, they're never gonna win that way,

521
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna fly off the table whatever.

522
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 3: It's also a nice you know the sound that like

523
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 3: sound it makes when you hit it. It's not as

524
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 3: violent as a lot of the sounds you will hear

525
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 3: at an arcade or at a at a pool hall.

526
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: There's something very like safe about it. I don't think

527
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: we're I don't think it's a ping pongk somewhere. I

528
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: just want to put that out there because it's two

529
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: on the nose with on those Marty Supreme. I think

530
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 3: there is a It's not warranted. I will be the

531
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: first to say, but there is a backlash against anything

532
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 3: Timothy Shallow made touches. And I think we're in a

533
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: more of an air hockey space than a table tennis space.

534
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too bad because it really should have.

535
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: Been a ping pong summer.

536
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 3: I mean, he fucked it up big time.

537
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: He fucked it up big time. And I have, you know,

538
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: promotional ping pong balls, Orange Maury Supreme ping pong balls.

539
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: What am we gonna do with them? I'm gonna wait

540
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: until I move and throw them in the garbage.

541
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: Now you have to flatten them and use them for

542
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 3: air hockey.

543
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Store of the Summer, Oh, get this, the Store

544
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: of the Summer. CBS huge because you know, when we

545
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: did this two years.

546
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 3: Ago, it was the gap. It was the gap because

547
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 3: that closed it head just taken over and we everyone

548
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 3: on the streets in New York City was saying, did

549
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: you know the gap is good again? There is. They're

550
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: doing wide legged Cheetos, they're doing kind of denim that

551
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: is better than you would Everything is called nineties fit.

552
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: Everything was nineties fit for a moment, but this year

553
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: it's all about being like, well, I already have everything

554
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: I need.

555
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: You know what I really need? Sunscreen?

556
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on the way to the thing and I

557
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: didn't bring sunscreen.

558
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: No, it's all about it's actually also about kind of

559
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 3: accepting the culture of everything being locked in CBS, like

560
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 3: like it's sort of like this is then your normal.

561
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: We tried, we tried to fight it for like seven years.

562
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 3: I'll be that I. You know, both of us have

563
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: complained about it a lot. It's insane that everything is locked.

564
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: It insane that you literally cannot buy doo to it

565
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: in this country. But it's sort of like, Okay, this

566
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: is what we have, this is our world. Like it's

567
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 3: just like you have to bank another ten minutes at

568
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: the CBS It's sort of like putting your name down

569
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: at a restaurant and then like going doing a walk.

570
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: You go there, you press the button, you do like

571
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 3: a walk around the block, and then you come back.

572
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: Maybe then you can get your zycam.

573
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: It's also just nice to sort of build that anger. Yeah,

574
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: you push the button, you wait, no one comes. You

575
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: push the button, you wait, no one comes, no one's

576
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: working there. Ever, why they do it that way?

577
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: It's reveling in the friction. It's almost honestly like anti AI.

578
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: It's like it is so not easy that you're sort

579
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: of like, good, this is real humanity here. It's like

580
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: I'm pressing a button and it does nahhing.

581
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: I wonder if in our lifetime we will be freed

582
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: from this, Like will there be someone who like like

583
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: a Zoron type who's like, my thing is just like

584
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: fixing stuff that is really annoying, and somebody's like, for example, CBS,

585
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: well here's the thing.

586
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the opposite is going to happen, which is that

587
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 3: the way all that's going to be fixed is that

588
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 3: there's our eyes are going to be scanned when we

589
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: go to buy something, so that that's the profile based

590
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: on our demographics retinas. Yeah, no, it's going to be

591
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: a real idea. But for getting zycam damn. I think

592
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: that it's all about having your survival kit, saying I

593
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: have a little I have a little zip What is

594
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 3: wrong with me? I'm like leaking water. Hold on, It's

595
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: all about having your little zip block bag with all

596
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 3: CVS branded things. And it's like I have my zinc,

597
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: I have my vel sunscreen, I have my medicinal lip bomb.

598
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: And then you do you're doing You're on TikTok and

599
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 3: you're doing like little a little You're walking through all

600
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 3: your choices and.

601
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: You're rolling up to the party with the CBS bag

602
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: ye and you're like not embarrassed at all of that.

603
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: You're like I brought some screens and everyone's like yay.

604
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: And it's like about you're also buying some sort of

605
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: protein bar that's not one of the artisanal ones, Like

606
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: you're buying like a think bar.

607
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: You're buying like travel mouthwash for no reason. Yeah, it's

608
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: just there.

609
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: Travel size is also big. It's like you're going to

610
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: the beach with everything travel size.

611
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: Well, everyone's like the you know, not have to bring

612
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: up the corner again, but everyone knows death is around

613
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: the corner, and they're like, well, I'm not going to

614
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: like buy a big mouthwash because what if I'm not

615
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: here in one month? But what if I literally have a

616
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: life earth?

617
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you don't want to leave the earth with

618
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: a two thirds full travel full size mouthwall.

619
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: My family is going through my belongings and they're saying,

620
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: he never even got to finish his mouthwash.

621
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: That is so sad.

622
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: That's the saddest thing I could imagine. So get the

623
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: travel size you'll be fine.

624
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: Generally, just single used toothbrush, like just like the smaller shelf,

625
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: life is the better.

626
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: If you can get a month to monthlyase, you know, Like.

627
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: No, the theme is month to monthly. It's like you're

628
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: starting summer. You're saying, I don't know if I'm gonna

629
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: be a live in September.

630
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's really good.

631
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: Okay, we're about to get into some tricky territory in

632
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: a bit, but before that, I'm gonna do another kind

633
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: of like harmless one. I think a gift of the

634
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: Summer slash Objey of the summer, if you will, Okay,

635
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 3: wind chimes.

636
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: Now this I really found interesting.

637
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I recently, years ago, I bought these wind chimes

638
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: from a place called Casanti, I believe. And it's these

639
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: like hippies in New Mexico's or maybe Arizona or something

640
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: that make them. And it's a way to kind of

641
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna be fully burning, man, I'm never gonna

642
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: be fully you know, living off the land, off the grid.

643
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna live a full windchime lifestyle. No, but

644
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: you can actually have a completely everlain life and just

645
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: have some wind chimes. This is it's a way to

646
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: like microdose back to nature for you.

647
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: George in n Y City, what are you doing with

648
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: your wind chimes?

649
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: In my mind?

650
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: You know they're silent, they're inside your I never heard

651
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: what they sound like. It's more it's more decre It's

652
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: kind of like, that's interesting. You have a Christmas tree,

653
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: that's it? Or a house plant. It's like having like

654
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: a houseplant in the home almost draws attention to how

655
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: artificial it is. You houseplant's not built to make noise, Yeah,

656
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: but it's built to be in a in a in

657
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: the real world. Sure, not build to be in a pot.

658
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: This is interesting. I don't think I realized you were

659
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: talking about indoor wind chimes. Yeah, that's even you could

660
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: do though.

661
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: You could put it by a window and then when

662
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: you open the window it wind comes in.

663
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: Your AC unit falls right now. You can put it like.

664
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: In front of your AC units to sort of like it.

665
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: It's sort of like, you know, urban brutalism. It's like, look,

666
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: my windchime is in front of my AC unit. What

667
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: does that tell you about our modern world?

668
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

669
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: I call PS one.

670
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah that's really good. But I'm I'm just thinking like,

671
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: because guess what. Ceramics have been out for a while,

672
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: Like everyone has so many mugs they don't know what

673
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: to do with them.

674
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: No, it's true.

675
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: I think also artisanal like flower pots, there's too many.

676
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: We need a new thing to be handmade.

677
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: I think a windchime is really fun. All I've ever

678
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: wanted is a wind chime on a front porch when

679
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: a storm is rolling in and I get to look

680
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: out and be like, oh, oh, the storm's coming.

681
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: I also wonder if this could lead us into a

682
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: comeback of the beaded curtain. It's not there. We're not

683
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: there yet, We're not close. I just want to be clear,

684
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 3: do not hit purchase yet no, because we could very

685
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: much go in the opposite.

686
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: I actually think we are in such an opposite point

687
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: that we could almost figure out exactly when it will

688
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: come back.

689
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I'm thinking like spring twenty twenty eight, and

690
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: I look forward to it.

691
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's a hammock summer.

692
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: It's a hammock summer. I could see hammock summer just

693
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: because of Survivor. No, but I let trees in the park,

694
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: you know. Wow. Well, the thing with all our summer

695
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: predictions is like, it's all it's just the things we

696
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: all own. One of the ones that I had to

697
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 3: delete was accessory of the summer having a two year

698
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: old that's not yours. It's like, that's because I was

699
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: with my niece.

700
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: Well, and of course I said yellow and you said

701
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: whine and I was because I was wearing a yellow shirt.

702
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I was like, we've already done butter yellow. Yeah.

703
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: Well, people are really confimable.

704
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: I think hammock. I think hammock. I think hammock and

705
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: wind chime. It's almost like deconstructed beaded curtain, because you're

706
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: doing the wind chimes on one hand and the hammock.

707
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: No beads on the other it's like you have all

708
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: the materials to make a beaded curtain, but you dare

709
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: not combine them.

710
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: It's like air, like we're really embracing like there's air

711
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: embracing wind.

712
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: It's windy.

713
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: It's windy summer, which actually goes into your idea for

714
00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: summer destination.

715
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Okay, get this. This is groundbreaking vacation of the summer.

716
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: Are you guys ready, because I think they're going to

717
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: freak out. Vacation of the summer. No, it's not Pulme Springs.

718
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Noah's not my island. It's not even the Amalfi Coast.

719
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: The vacation of the summer. We're going to Chicago.

720
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the vacation destination of the summer is the city

721
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: of Chicago.

722
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: We're going to Cago and we're getting a hotel that is,

723
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, sort of north but near the water so

724
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: that you can during the day you walk your ass

725
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: to Lake Michigan, you go swimming, and then at night

726
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: you're near the gay neighborhood and you go out and

727
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: you have fun.

728
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: You go out, you have fun. Maybe you catch a

729
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: step and wolf production, maybe you go see the bean

730
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: with your sister in law, you take a walk. I

731
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 3: love this.

732
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Chicago is one of the only fun cities in the world,

733
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: and I think people underestimate it, which is maybe why

734
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: it's fun.

735
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: Well, also, I think people are terrified of its weather

736
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: during the winter, So what better time to go than

737
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: in the summer when it's oppressive hot.

738
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't go in the winter, but summer destination. I

739
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: think people are going to be flocking to Chicago.

740
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: Because we were thinking, I definitely think it's an urban

741
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: it's a city summer, and of course you start thinking, Okay,

742
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: do you mean Venice.

743
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: No, No, Chicago, Chicago.

744
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: It's perfect, and it's also it's a celebration of American

745
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: culture and heritage.

746
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's time to like start we need to.

747
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: One time I heard Stephen metcalf On like talking about

748
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: how like there is a point to like creating a

749
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: even like a slightly fantastical narrative around America because we

750
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: need to have something to believe in totally, And I

751
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: agree with that, And I'm like, so that, let's start

752
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: with Chicago.

753
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: Let's start with Chicago.

754
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: Let's let's look inward.

755
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chicago. The thing with Chicago is its motto should

756
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: be this is the best we can do? And I don't.

757
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: I'm not, especially in the summer.

758
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'm not, And I'm saying that in both

759
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: a positive and negative way. Yes, I was actually thinking

760
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: about this because, as I told you, I recently rewatched

761
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: the James L. Brooks film As Good as It Gets,

762
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: and I found that to be such an incredible title

763
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: for what it portrays, because you can see it as

764
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: good as it gets can be the best thing. Ever,

765
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: It's like you being like, this is as good as

766
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: it gets? Isn't it? Fox? Or it can be you

767
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: being like, is this as good as it gets?

768
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: Right?

769
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: And the movie gauges that with that.

770
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: Well, I would hope so.

771
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: And I feel like that is the motto of Chicago,

772
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 3: being this is the best we can do? Is both

773
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: celebratory and kind of mournful.

774
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do think Chicago as a gay destination also

775
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: doesn't get enough credit. Like more, I just think it

776
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: has as many gay guys as pe Town, if not more.

777
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: I think when you go there, you're sort of like,

778
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: how are there this many gay guys?

779
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: And how do none of them have jobs? But all

780
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 2: of them have income?

781
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 3: Have apartments? Yeah, two bedroom apartment.

782
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: With little balconies.

783
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: No. If you are in Chicago and you own an

784
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: apartment and it's like two bed, one bath, people are like,

785
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: do you have a gofund me?

786
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're worried about you.

787
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: Wait, I want to look up the specific arcade I

788
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: went to in Chicago that fired me to say that

789
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: air hockey is in hold on, have you ever been

790
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 3: to Emporium Arcade Bar?

791
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: No?

792
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: Well, let's just say, pack your bags and go to

793
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 3: the Logan Square. Does go to the Logan Square location?

794
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: Thank you?

795
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: I will.

796
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. So basically the destination of the summer is Emporium

797
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: Arcade bar in Logan Square, get yourself some coins what

798
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 3: do they call tokens? Tokens, get to that air hockey table,

799
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 3: and get blackout drunk on Miller High Lives.

800
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: God a town where you're allowed to drink.

801
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: Literally, and it's in fact you're not allowed to not drink.

802
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: That's true.

803
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 3: All right, So now we're getting into more political stuff.

804
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

805
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: The concept of the summer slash idea of the summer,

806
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: slash site of debate of the summer is the art world.

807
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: Now I have a theory here.

808
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: Please explain your theory. I really like it.

809
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think this could be really big. So basically,

810
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: we are going to see what happened with fashion happened

811
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: with We're going to see I'm gonna take that again.

812
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: We're going to see what happened with fashion happened with art.

813
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: And so here's what happened with fashion. Fashion used to

814
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: be a very niche interest. It was a very relatively

815
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: small business compared to other businesses. And because of social media,

816
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: and because of the Devil War's product, and because of

817
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 3: the democratization of sort of all cultural commentary, suddenly everyone

818
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: and their mother knows who is taking over Chanel, Everyone

819
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: and their mother knows what the theme of the met gala

820
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 3: is and whether or not people are you know, doing

821
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: it correctly? People are you know, someone is announced as

822
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: like an ambassador for Fendi, and everyone knows what that means.

823
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: Ever since Richard took over for the way amazing.

824
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 3: And so it's like everything is you know, a fashion

825
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: advertisement is treated as like a you know, a sports

826
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: game that basically like a bunch of gay guys doing

827
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: sports center are you know, comming on? Everyone can just

828
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: effortlessly pretend they're an expert without having any idea what

829
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: they're talking about. Yeah, so I think something similar and

830
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: I think that has hit a wall current, Like I

831
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: think we're sort of at a place where Okay, well

832
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: if everyone's an expert, no one's an expert. I just

833
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: no longer even want to hear about who's taken over

834
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: taking over at louievee mm hm. And so I think

835
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: fashion is over, and I think that same process is

836
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: going to happen with the art world. So we're talking

837
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: people having specific opinions about the curator that works in

838
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: a specific wing of a museum in Cleveland. We're talking

839
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: like coverage of the ethics of art collecting and whether

840
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: or not there is a way for it to be

841
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 3: done ethically. We're talking about there's going to be people

842
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: that think about it in a more political militant way

843
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: and talk about the money behind it. There's going to

844
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 3: be people talk it purely in esthetics, and I think

845
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: it's going to become like sort of mainstream in this way.

846
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: I think we're going to see a lot of unemployed

847
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: art history. PhD has become TikTokers. And I know that

848
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: some of this is already out there, but it's never

849
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 3: hit peak mainstream. And the way that fashion has.

850
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: I think this is actually really smart because we're running

851
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: out of things to gatekeep, yes, and this like, I

852
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: can see the girl who grew up in Manhattan. Who's

853
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: going to be like, yeah, So I ask someone that

854
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: actually grew up in Manhattan and my parents were in

855
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: the art world, like, what you need to know about

856
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: the people that run the art winglahlahlahlahlah, And you're like oh,

857
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: and then as someone that doesn't live in Manhattan and

858
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: doesn't live in this world, you're like, I have to

859
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: know everything about this so that I've never caught with

860
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: my pants down again.

861
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: There's also because again, nothing is gate kept anymore, but

862
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: people still have the desire to be sheek and sophisticated

863
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: and to be in the know. People are going to

864
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: flock to it. They're going to say, oh, thank god,

865
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: there's a new thing I can learn about and be

866
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: better than everyone else.

867
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: We're like locusts, yes, just chewing everything up.

868
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: And you know what else? Unlike fashion, Well I was

869
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: gonna say that, unlike fashion, which is so expensive, there

870
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: is a way to engage with art that is completely free.

871
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: I mean it's free to enter. But I guess the

872
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: flip side of that is that it's also free to

873
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: enter a store, so you can technically like know what's

874
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: but it's not free to go to a fashion show.

875
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: And you're encouraged to enter a gallery, whereas if you're

876
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: entering a store without planning on buying something, you've got

877
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 1: a stank on. Yeah.

878
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: No, that's exactly true. And I think that I think

879
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 3: that there's a self policing that happens where the people

880
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: that go to an art fair, the people that go

881
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 3: to a gallery are the people in the know. I

882
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: guess what if some Rando that lives in Ridgewood figures

883
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: out that you can just walk into a gallery, it's over.

884
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: George, is that Rando is my fucking friend?

885
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: No. Remember when we were in the Hampton's, Uh we're

886
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: bleeping that, Yeah, And Matthew was like, we were walking

887
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: by a place in matthew Like we walked by like

888
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: a little gallery in Matthew's Like, oh, I've been wanting

889
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: to check this artist out. I was like, what where?

890
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: You said? I didn't know you could go in. No,

891
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: it's actually this is one of my big you know,

892
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: if anyone was ever like, what are Georgia's New York's secrets.

893
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: It's like guess what. It's all free and available. You

894
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: have to download the seesaw app, which tells you exactly

895
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: there's editors picks there. It's by neighborhood and it just

896
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: tells you what's in every gallery and then you can

897
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: even just go off of their taste. You don't have

898
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: to learn anything. You can just be like, this is

899
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 3: actually like one of the biggest retrospectives that this artist

900
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: has had since the big Austria one in nineteen ninety seven.

901
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can just memorize.

902
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: Someone can think you invanted that.

903
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's genius. So this one, I have

904
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: a really controversial one.

905
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: Okay.

906
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: Song of the Summer.

907
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so song of the Summer is H and M music.

908
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: I think this summer is going to be all about

909
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: something you could hear at an H and M.

910
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 3: So we're talking like.

911
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: Pink No, that's CBS music.

912
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 2: Music is gay adjacent. It's soft house music.

913
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: It's basically it's Madonnald's I Feel So Free, Okay, And

914
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be hearing a lot of it, yeah,

915
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: because I I think it's we're wanting to like be

916
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: by a pool and almost like specifically a like Soho House,

917
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: but you're like wanting You're wanting like it to feel

918
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: dancing and fun, but also wanting no abrasiveness at all,

919
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: because you're like, I don't have time for that.

920
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: So people are basically gonna be finding stock music that sounds.

921
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's adjacent to reality show music. It's like

922
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: the music they play it during Love Island.

923
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: And I even like mostly of course this is inspired

924
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: by I Feel So Free explicitly, but I was like,

925
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: this is gonna hit and and I'm gonna want more

926
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: and so then it's gonna like inspire so much, sort of.

927
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: Like are you feel like hypercar Love?

928
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure, but hold on, let me look

929
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: at now I have to look.

930
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: Wait, can you can you hear stereo love? Because I

931
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: can play it for you for me because you know

932
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: this song all right? Hold on?

933
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, got it done exactly? This is a song

934
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: on the Summer Okay that also Dua Lipa was radical optimism.

935
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: I think people didn't like because it was H and

936
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: M music totally, and I think because it was featured

937
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: in the opening scene of Dumble's Protect Too, I think

938
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: people are ready to reassess it.

939
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: I think, well, I do think Devil wors product soundtrack

940
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: is all H and M music.

941
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, So I think H and M music is

942
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: gonna be huge.

943
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: I almost.

944
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: Oh, and of course, of course I sun to dance

945
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: for into a Runway, right, So the soundtrack of Devil

946
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: was trying to do right.

947
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: But I just, guys, just forgot about that song.

948
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that was a key element of the argument

949
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: that I forgot because Madonna and then I was like, right, Runway.

950
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: But even obviously the Madonna song Vogue is not H

951
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: and M music, but the opening of it is that

952
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 3: kind of like inoffensive, like Okay, let's everyone loosen up.

953
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because yeah, while watching and actually hearing Runway

954
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: in the context of the film, I said, hey, this

955
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: is working for me.

956
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: No, it definitely works in the context of the film.

957
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: I said, nowhere else. But I said, it's going on

958
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: the playlist.

959
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: Well, there's sort of a straight line there. It's a

960
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: continuum between CVS H and M music Arcade Bar in Chicago,

961
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 3: like we're kind of we're basically like, okay, so what's

962
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: in is middle brow, what's in is like leave your

963
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 3: taste at the door, because it's time to have some fun.

964
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: I think we need that. Yeah, I think we're like

965
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: looking outward.

966
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 3: Versus looking inward, and what are we doing?

967
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 2: This is going inward?

968
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: This is like, this is like why am I trying

969
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: so hard? Like how about it be grateful for what

970
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: I have? Yeah, it's like, stop running, Let's have a

971
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: fun night in just you and me, you know, feeling

972
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: of the summer gratitude.

973
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: Literally. Okay, So now we're getting into what sorts of

974
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: conversations are going to be happening. So we have a

975
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: few candidates for redemption slash reclamation of the summer. One

976
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: of them is The Wayans Brothers. Yes, so Scary the

977
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: new scary movie is coming out. Something that has been

978
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: brewing in the culture for years now is the question

979
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: of were they unfairly treated by the critical consensus during

980
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: their heyday in the two thousands? Is White Chicks actually

981
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: a masterpiece? Like scary movie actually really amazing, scary movie

982
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: actually amazing, And also like, frankly, as all of those

983
00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: were happening, all the equivalent you know, from white people

984
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: that were just as stupid and just as silly, were

985
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: you know, celebrated while there's it was like, oh, white

986
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: Chick is some poor taste. It's like, why.

987
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: Do you think Blades of Glory is good? But the

988
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: reason why it's going to be a conversation is, of

989
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: course the new scary movie. Is it going to be good?

990
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: Well, so this is what's complicated. The conversation is overdue

991
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: and they were unfairly maligned. But what if the new

992
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: movie is actually bad? That could make it so complicated.

993
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: That makes things so complicated. And what's interesting is that

994
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: the exact same thing is happening with Madonna. Well, no,

995
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: that's not true, because Madonna at her peak was fully respected.

996
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 3: It's not like but I think that she's definitely people

997
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: are eager for her to have this big comeback, and

998
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: I think people want it. But what if the album

999
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: is bad and now there's tension, And.

1000
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: Now there's tension and they're having a conversation.

1001
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: And then there's a third person that's in competition for

1002
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 3: redemption slash reclamation and.

1003
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: It is Kylie Minogue.

1004
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: So there's the Kylie Minogue documentary coming out on like

1005
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: Netflix or something.

1006
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're not talking about just gay guys reclaiming

1007
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: They gay guys have reclaimed her like a many time,

1008
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: million times. Basically every time a gay guy wakes up

1009
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: there saying today I'm reclaiming Kylie Minoe.

1010
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, we know, put your name on the list.

1011
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: There's a line out the block.

1012
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: What we're saying is we think that there will be

1013
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: like twenty two year olds on TikTok being like, so

1014
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: there's a singer named Kylie Minoue. She was actually really

1015
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: big in nineteen eighty two, but now she's really Like

1016
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: what I realized is she actually.

1017
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: Makes amazing music.

1018
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that will be happening a lot,

1019
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: and there will be like sort of like in the

1020
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: same way that Running Up That Hill had a moment

1021
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: I think can't get you out of my head because

1022
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: I saw it in the trailer for some movie whatever

1023
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: coming up. People never know which one coming out this summer,

1024
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, people are about to, like like,

1025
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: people that weren't around for this the first time are

1026
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: about to be around for it now, did you?

1027
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: In the trailer for the Kylie doc the song that's

1028
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: used is actually all the Lovers, which I thought was

1029
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: an interesting choice and it was a great song that

1030
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: was successful, but I think is still doesn't have the

1031
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: classic status that it maybe deserves. I could see that

1032
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: having a big comeback. Maybe that's what's used in like

1033
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: the opening or the closing credits. There's a lot of

1034
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: stuff with Kylie. There's the you know, her persevering during

1035
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: all her health issues. There's her suing Kylie Jenner because

1036
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 3: of the name Kylie.

1037
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: Right, and now at her concerts she sells merch that

1038
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: makes a little joke about that.

1039
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like the real Kylie.

1040
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: At the real Kyle.

1041
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: Or it's like the only Kylie or something like that.

1042
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Kylie Jenner got sued because she was just

1043
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: calling herself Kylie, and Kyl was like, no, I'm Kylie.

1044
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: To have the confidence as Kylie Jenner to be like,

1045
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna own Kylie. I'm sorry. Do we not live

1046
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: in a democracy?

1047
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: No use her name? Taken?

1048
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. I guess what it worked too? It worked, Okay.

1049
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: Finally some justice in this country.

1050
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: So now, oh you have I.

1051
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: Have one more Okay, I mean we have extras of course,

1052
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: yeahctly because I'm also what we want to do fake

1053
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: debate of the summer? Oh okay, okay, this one is

1054
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of related to our problem Springs conversation from

1055
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: before sexual deviation of the summer friend group orgy.

1056
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so so you're sort of saying you're sort of saying, like,

1057
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 3: no more anonymous sex. It's done close friends only. I

1058
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: think you you've realized what are you really going to

1059
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: find anonymous sex? Now?

1060
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: It's sort of like, well, we're friends, but we met

1061
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: like two years ago. Yes, so like we can kind

1062
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: of mess it up. We don't have to be so

1063
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: precious with our friendship. We're not coworkers, we're not best

1064
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: of friends. We have been friends for two years.

1065
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: Would you say it's it's not acquaintances though it is friends.

1066
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: Is it someone you've had like a one on one

1067
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: drink with, or it's someone that has always run the

1068
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: outskirts of the friend group And you're sort of looking

1069
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: around board being like, I guess like we could go

1070
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: with him.

1071
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: I think what's gonna happen is you're gonna be at

1072
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: cocktails at someone's house and then all of a sudden

1073
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: you're like, wait, why is everyone making out? And maybe

1074
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: like two people knew that would happen, but then you didn't, okay,

1075
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, I guess friends can hook up. Now.

1076
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 3: Do you feel like this is something that will happen

1077
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: exclusively within the LGBTQ plus community, or are we thinking

1078
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 3: the return of key parties among suburban couples with two

1079
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: or three children.

1080
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: I could see this being a larger trend. I can

1081
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: see this due to that film that seth Brogans in

1082
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: that I forget the name of the invite. The invite

1083
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: and directed by Olivia Wilde.

1084
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: Interesting, it didn't center her. Wont bring it up.

1085
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: Well, I only didn't center her because I get her

1086
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: confused with.

1087
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: Olivia mon and one more Olivia. Who's the other Olivia?

1088
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Speaker 1: It's not Olivia.

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00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 4: It's like a look thing, Oh, Robbie Margot, Robbie. No,

1090
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 4: it's like who's It's just like I know, whenever I'm

1091
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 4: thinking of one, I'm thinking of the other. Who's Oppenheimer,

1092
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 4: Emily Blunt? Really I get them confused. You have weird face, Blend.

1093
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: This woman was not one of the listed people of

1094
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: a generating Becca. We have to have a conversation about

1095
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,959
Speaker 3: your AI usage. Google that like when I Google something

1096
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: you have to do minus AI. Yeah? Wait, but I

1097
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: actually want to know what does ais? Who does AI

1098
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: say looks like Olivia Wilde? I don't know her. No incorrect. No,

1099
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 3: see that's why AI is never gonna actually take over.

1100
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 3: So so the people. So who's Olivia Wilde?

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00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: Olivia Wilde wrote and directed this movie? Yes, Olivia man

1102
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: is the other one, and.

1103
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 3: Via mine is married to John Mlaney.

1104
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: And who's the third one?

1105
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: That I think of?

1106
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: Emily Blunt from Devil's Prada.

1107
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always I could almost.

1108
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 3: See Emily Blunt and live Mone. But to me, Olivia

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00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 3: Wilde is a different kind.

1110
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: I always I need to like literally look at two

1111
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: pictures side my side, because I'm only the Emily Blunt.

1112
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Olivia Wilde. I'm trying to think what you would

1113
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: have seen with Olivia Wilde. You never watched the OC

1114
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: I did watch the She's the bisexual that Misha Barton dates.

1115
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: She's kind of an iconic, like foundational bisexual character in television.

1116
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: She also wrote and directed or I don't know about wrote,

1117
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: but she I think wrote and directed BookSmart.

1118
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 2: I saw that one.

1119
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 3: She does, and she also wrote and directed again maybe

1120
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: not wrote Don't Worry Darling of course with Harry Styles

1121
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: and Florence Q, and she was in it and was dating.

1122
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: I once saw her at Julina. If you remember from that.

1123
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 3: I don't know why this photo that is the closest

1124
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: I felt like I belong and this very old photo

1125
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: of you can kind of I'm sorry, isn't Emily isn't

1126
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: a living wild like the most beautiful woman you've ever seen?

1127
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 3: That's the one on the right. Yeah, you don't think so.

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00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: They're identical.

1129
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: They are not identical.

1130
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 2: That's just two girls with different hair.

1131
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: I live it wild as like someone. I'm like, there's

1132
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: something I like. It makes me, you know what I

1133
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 3: think it is. She's so kind of conventionally attractive that

1134
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 3: it transports me back to before I knew what my

1135
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: sexuality was. It's like being like seven years old and

1136
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 3: just being told Julia Roberts and you're.

1137
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: Like, of course, okay, I'm going to study this when

1138
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: I go home.

1139
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: So they look the same to you.

1140
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: I've never seen the girl on the left of my life.

1141
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 3: That's Emily Blunt. You're crazy. I actually did not know.

1142
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 3: Is this bad for you? This is nuts, because Olivia,

1143
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 3: I like get not knowing, because but like Emily Blunt

1144
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: has been a part of our lives now for decades, John,

1145
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 3: And she was in a quiet place.

1146
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: Uh huh. She's that one. Yeah, she's really I just

1147
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: equate her with Olivia Wilde, but also Oppenheimer, which you

1148
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: love is she didn't shake the hand Emily Blunt and

1149
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: she was drunk. I could have sworn it was you

1150
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: thought that was Olivia wild I cannot tell them apart

1151
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: like look how long.

1152
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: They just look like before and after shots.

1153
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: Well, that's a conversation we can't get into right this second. Anyway,

1154
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 3: I actually think I'm really I'm really glad you brought

1155
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 3: up the invite because I do think the invite is

1156
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 3: going to be like a big conversation starter in a

1157
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: way that I'm like excited for. And I think another

1158
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: conversation is gonna happen with the invite is people are gonna

1159
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: this another kind of dark horse for redemption slash reclamation,

1160
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 3: even though this is someone who does not need a redemption.

1161
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 3: But people are going to be like, did you know

1162
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 3: Penelope Cruise is good at comedy? And then all these

1163
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: various gay guys that you know love almadov Our films

1164
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: are gonna be like, actually she started in comedies and

1165
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 3: then that's going to be like a big that's kind

1166
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: of circular conversation.

1167
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it sucks that whenever you bring up

1168
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: what's going to be a conversation, all I can do

1169
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 1: is see the TikTok of someone being so condescending about

1170
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 1: it totally, and I'm like, no, I know whatever.

1171
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 3: I think Panelaa Cruise has always wanted secretly to be

1172
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: a comedian. Do you remember she was in Zulander two

1173
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: but then it sort of didn't do super well. I

1174
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: think she wants that, like she's chasing the high. She

1175
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 3: wants the big comedic role. I think she's going to

1176
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 3: get it. I think she's going to get it.

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00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: Okay, you have a big concept, so okay.

1178
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: So basically, you know how, there's always these fake debates

1179
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: we have to kind of like go through the motions

1180
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 3: of happening. A recent one was should Timothy Shallow may

1181
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: be murdered on the street because he said that ballet

1182
00:54:59,120 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: is a dying art? Fore?

1183
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: Should Charlie XX be joining quartered because she said the

1184
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: dance Lord is dead?

1185
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: Yes? You know, I'm trying to think of other non

1186
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: celeb ones. Oh, here's one, is it? I mean just

1187
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: an obvious one from recently, like is it ethical to

1188
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 3: go to the met Gala? Even though Jeff Bezos is

1189
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 3: the one donating the money. Like, just like these things,

1190
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: It's like, imagine a world where I won that debate

1191
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 3: one way or the other. Guess what, it's the same world.

1192
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: Nothing's gonna change, right, It's like why why are we

1193
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 3: talking about these things? Right? So this is sort of

1194
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: a I have various candidates. I'm gonna pull them up

1195
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 3: for a fake debate of the summer. So one is,

1196
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: of course, is Hassan Piker bad. This is something that's

1197
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: been happening for a while, but I think more and

1198
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: more normal people are learning who he is.

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00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: Well also as we you know, get into midterms. Yes,

1200
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:45,959
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be huge.

1201
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be an amazing way that various really

1202
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: really annoying people on dare I say, both sides are

1203
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: going to miss the point.

1204
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1205
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's gonna be just this constant like is

1206
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: it okay that he has an expensive watch but voted

1207
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: for Bernie Sanders? Is it okay that he is that

1208
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: he like takes steroids? Like it's just gonna be like NonStop.

1209
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be a big one.

1210
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: That's gonna be here.

1211
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 3: We're all gonna your mom is gonna have to weigh in.

1212
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna have to weigh Yeah, here's another one. Can

1213
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 3: Boots Riley still be a communist if he works within capitalism?

1214
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a huge fake debate.

1215
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a huge fake.

1216
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: This is in your movie, which I think looks very good,

1217
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: is coming out, and so of course people are gonna say, oh,

1218
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 3: so you're saying you have progressive politics, but you actually

1219
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 3: did a show for Amazon. Mm hmmmm hmm. People are

1220
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 3: gonna think they're the smartest personal live from making that point. Yeah, Okay.

1221
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 3: Another big one is the casting and or the accident

1222
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 3: work in the Odyssey problematic?

1223
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm already of course, we've talked about this,

1224
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: this is this is already starting.

1225
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: Is there are people, you know, people a different People

1226
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: are like, what if we focus on Matt Damon, What

1227
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 3: if we focus on an Halthaway, What if we focus

1228
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 3: on Tom Holland. People are kind of like testing out

1229
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 3: these people, these basement dwelling freaks. They're saying, what sort

1230
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: of discourse can I start? We have a month until

1231
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: the movie comes out, and so far nothing's really catching on.

1232
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 2: Is this real?

1233
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: Though?

1234
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: Here's my big question, My definition No, it's the fake

1235
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: debate of the summer.

1236
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: Of course, I guess, yes, yes, yes, But what I

1237
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: mean is like, are these real people.

1238
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: Or is it bots trying to like get money or

1239
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: something like.

1240
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's complicated because, as we've said, the bot ethos

1241
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 3: lives within real life people. There are people that are

1242
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 3: acting like bots and they haven't even realized it. Yeah,

1243
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: and I think it's a lot of that. But like,

1244
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: I don't know a single soul. Well maybe you do

1245
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: because you're in the Greek community. Yeah, I don't know

1246
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: a soul who's like they should be doing Greek accents. No,

1247
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 3: there was an article written literally yesterday, I don't remember

1248
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: where it was. It was about whether it's okay that

1249
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: they have not okay in an ethical way, but even

1250
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: just artistically, or even if it takes you out of it,

1251
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 3: let's say that they have American accents.

1252
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: There was an article.

1253
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 3: Yes. Now, at these days, you know, anything can be

1254
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: an article.

1255
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy because the war's problem was about saving press. Yes,

1256
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: and then we're using the press. We have to do this.

1257
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: They save the press only for them to write about

1258
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: whether it's okay that Matt Damon is doing an American

1259
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: accent in the Odyssey. Wow, Now here's the thing. Have

1260
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 3: you seen the movie Alexander. It's about Alexander the Great.

1261
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: I think I saw it once.

1262
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: Okay, So the thing with that movie, which I think

1263
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: is really funny, is that every single person has a

1264
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: different accent. And I'm not exaggerate. This is like a

1265
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: thing that I'm sure there's like a probably like a

1266
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 3: Wikipedia section about it, but literally, like Angelina Julie is

1267
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: doing a Greek accent, some of them are doing British,

1268
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: and some of them are doing American, and some of

1269
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 3: them are Americans doing British. Like it makes zero and

1270
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: it's very just sort of like, look, it's old timey.

1271
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 3: That's kind of the vibe. And then there are, of

1272
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: course films where people do foreign accents but speak English.

1273
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: But I sort of think it's okay that they're just

1274
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: doing American accents.

1275
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna post accent correct world.

1276
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1277
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean we lived through House of Gucci. That didn't

1278
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: take me out one bit. I mean it wasn't an

1279
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: amazing movie, but I don't blame the accents. Yeah, blame

1280
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: sort of the.

1281
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 3: Plot and take out the trash. Yeah, they don't take you, well,

1282
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 3: your name, sweetie, but okay, but okay, they don't take

1283
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: you out of it, but don't they add something to

1284
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 3: like it is? It's fun that they're all doing Italian accents.

1285
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: It would imagine that Odyssey, but they're all doing Greek accents,

1286
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: like big fact Greek wedding style.

1287
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: But it's like, maybe I'm practicing Greek erasure currently. But

1288
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm sort of like.

1289
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 3: The Odyssey is too much of a classic.

1290
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: It's like a mythical completely.

1291
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: It's like we're not walking through obviously, Yes, that's like that.

1292
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 3: That is the obvious rebuttal to all of this, which

1293
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: I do think in all fairness, the majority of the

1294
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 3: population agrees with.

1295
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

1296
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 3: Nevertheless, there will be conversations about it.

1297
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: I mean we're having one now.

1298
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 3: Do you have any other ideas for fake debates of

1299
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 3: the summer. I have some that I sort of rejected,

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01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: you know, A big one of course, but I don't

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01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 3: know if this is a real or fake debate? Is

1302
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: like do all men have eating disorders? This is like

1303
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 3: related to look smacks. I think like look smaxing has

1304
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 3: been treated as like a funny curiosity in the media,

1305
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 3: and I could see a backlash where people are like, wow,

1306
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 3: so you treated that you're doing the same thing to

1307
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 3: men that you did to women during like the horrible

1308
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 3: two thousands.

1309
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Speaker 1: I mean it is just like in ten years it

1310
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: will be documentary is about Clavicular and how we killed him.

1311
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 3: And then people were rewrite history by being like, it's

1312
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 3: crazy that everyone thought this was good. It's like, no,

1313
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 3: no one good.

1314
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: Everyone thought this was a bad and also everyone thought.

1315
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 3: Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton coverage was bad too. It's

1316
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 3: not history writing of like we were all such autumaton

1317
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: that we were cheering on the murdering of innocent men

1318
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: and women. No we weren't.

1319
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: No, we weren't.

1320
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 3: We were podcasting and our opinions were correct. Check the tapes.

1321
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 3: Another big fake debate that could happen. You know, is

1322
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 3: it okay for people to change their minds? I think

1323
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 3: this is going to be a big one with Trump

1324
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: voters realizing that they shouldn't have voted for Trump and

1325
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: then people on the left being like, well, fuck you.

1326
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: It's like rather than sort of welcoming.

1327
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: No, and this is real. This is an interesting one.

1328
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 3: It's like people not taking a breath.

1329
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: I would say they put this in the real debate debates.

1330
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: Okay, it's obviously we should have the like mental strength

1331
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: to be like, oh you see, but it's like, but

1332
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I'm missed.

1333
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 3: Another real debate of the summer is Ivy Woke gen

1334
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 3: Z Lena Dunham, I think pros and cons.

1335
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: I think you're right in that it's a fake debate.

1336
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: Oh it's a fake debate. I said it was a

1337
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 3: real one. Do you think it's fake?

1338
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a fake debate because it's like, what

1339
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: do you mean, right, Like, what does that even mean?

1340
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 3: I think I guess I'm taking it to be a compliment.

1341
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's a few things that are

1342
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: happening people. Much much like with Lena Dunham, people are

1343
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 3: obsessed with analyzing Ivy's public statements without which, by the way,

1344
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 3: are all extremely funny, without recognizing her actually amazing work

1345
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 3: as an actor, writer, comedian, whatever. It's the same with

1346
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 3: Lena where people would be like, Lena Dunham is so

1347
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 3: annoying because she like said, x y Z the reason,

1348
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 3: where did she even come from? Who even is she?

1349
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: It's like, well, here's a show, the reason why I

1350
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: think it's fake. Yeah, is because all of it's coming

1351
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: from Ivy. If she didn't share, Like, if she wasn't

1352
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: like everyone understonates me, I'm actually a genius, I would

1353
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: be like, of course, like everyone I know likes her

1354
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: so a lot of so I'm like no one. She's like,

1355
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm getting all these comments every day, and it's she's

1356
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: her own pr in the way that Lena. Maybe this

1357
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: is how she is like Lena Dunham, where it's like

1358
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: Lena purposefully stokes the flames huge ways, so does Ivy.

1359
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: Ivy could be like just doing stand up and like

1360
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: posting clips and they would probably do well. But she's

1361
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: always having to like stoke the flames and be like,

1362
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: oh you hate me? Hate this?

1363
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate this is so funny.

1364
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: Of course that's either similar, but it's only from she has.

1365
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: She has the gift of gab, She's got the gift

1366
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: of like knowing how to take center stage.

1367
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: Yes, which and I'm buying a ticket, I'm buying a VIP.

1368
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: Ticket from there, I'm holding my finger out on the

1369
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: phone so i can read the huge block of text.

1370
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm addicted, of course, but I just think she's

1371
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: absolutely doing it?

1372
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. And then the other real debate of the

1373
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 3: summer is is have the Obama's flopped post presidency.

1374
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: This is interesting.

1375
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 3: Because this is something that's been brewing for a while.

1376
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: Can you imagine?

1377
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you're your president you were like, Okay,

1378
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: that was hard, and then you're like, I'm just going

1379
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: to fucking vibe and start a production company, and then

1380
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: all these wars start breaking out and you're like, oh

1381
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: my god, can I just make podcasts?

1382
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 3: Totally? How could you have seen it coming?

1383
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: That's so messed up.

1384
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: It's tough.

1385
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: And now everyone's like you should speak on this, and

1386
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: they're like, I don't do that anymore.

1387
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 3: What do you not understand when they go blow we

1388
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 3: produce a docusere, you.

1389
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: Had your shot. I did my time. Now I'm Hollywood, let.

1390
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: Me have some fun.

1391
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 3: It's complicated, but I do think it is without expressing

1392
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 3: an opinion on it, I do think it is a

1393
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 3: real debate, and I sort of think it's been bubbling

1394
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 3: for a while and people on both sides want to

1395
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: express their opinions.

1396
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's all I'll say about that. They're just

1397
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 5: like me for real, The Obamas, Yeah, it's.

1398
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: Like I can stop having like political unrest so that

1399
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: I can just podcast kind of. Yeah, No, it's tough.

1400
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to comment on that.

1401
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: Just stop that.

1402
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm actually just shocked there it hasn't been more backlash,

1403
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 3: although at this point, you know, in a post Blake

1404
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 3: Lively just in Baldonia world, I basically don't think anything

1405
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 3: is real when I look at online conversation.

1406
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you heard me, the whole honesty thing. I'm

1407
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: like bot spots, bots, bots, basically anything I see on

1408
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: Twitter I think is bots, and they're sort of testing

1409
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: to see what's like hitting well, and then if it

1410
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: hits well, then they'll boost it.

1411
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: We're all part of an experiment, of course, and someone

1412
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 3: has to pull the plug.

1413
01:05:54,160 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 1: Everyone go out there and bomb, don't bomb, Sorry, what do.

1414
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 3: You want them to bomb?

1415
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: Oh?

1416
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 3: Data centers? You could do that, Well, you have to

1417
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 3: first make sure that everyone has left, send the bomb

1418
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 3: through the trove, up fire alarm. Yeah, we're ethnically, we're

1419
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: doing this ethically ethically.

1420
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: This isn't we're hurting buildings.

1421
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not going boots Riley mode.

1422
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: No, Well, well I wish we were.

1423
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 3: I wish we were too well we got there. You know,

1424
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 3: we went from braised greens to domestic terrorism. I will say,

1425
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 3: in one hour.

1426
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: It's actually amazing that we were able to come up

1427
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: with these amazing thoughts of things of the summer, because

1428
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: it is in fact cloudy and rainy out.

1429
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 3: I know, and thank you for saying it.

1430
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: And all day I was like, damn cloudy and rainy.

1431
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: That's tough.

1432
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we sat in the Starbucks on fifty fifth

1433
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 3: that's right. I got a jalapeno chicken turnover that was

1434
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 3: approximately one square.

1435
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: Inch and I had an amazing I guessed it coffee cake,

1436
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: and even the Starbucks.

1437
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 3: One was good.

1438
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: It was to die for.

1439
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: I've never had anything like it.

1440
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 2: So, you know, boycott Starbucks unless you're on fifty fifth Street.

1441
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: Can I ask you something?

1442
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: Uh huh?

1443
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:16,439
Speaker 3: It's like, where do all the pastries go? You you're

1444
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 3: walking around, You're walking around any major city. Okay, every

1445
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 3: bakery chalk full of pastries. No one is ordering. Have

1446
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,479
Speaker 3: you ever seen a pastry of atrine that isn't completely full?

1447
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 3: Maybe you're getting two people getting a croissant each day?

1448
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: Are all of those thrown out?

1449
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: You know, my local coffee shop, which is of course,

1450
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: the coffee shop near the Pod hotel, they actually do

1451
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 1: run out of pastries early. Yes, if you want a croissant,

1452
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: you better get there before ten am.

1453
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I stand corrected.

1454
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: And in fact, I wish I'm saying, can you stock

1455
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: a couple more of these, because it would.

1456
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 3: Be nice to have a crystal, maybe have a croissant.

1457
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: And the only thing left by eleven am is like

1458
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: a chocolate chip cookie, and it's too early for that.

1459
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 3: To go into a coffee shop and be like, I'll

1460
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 3: have a chocolate chip cookie. It's like you need to

1461
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 3: check yourself into rehab. You're actually crazy.

1462
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: No, that's true.

1463
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 3: Well, pastries are given to the breeze.

1464
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: Well yes, yeah, thank you.

1465
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: No, that's true, and the same thing happens with bread.

1466
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 3: I mean the begets alone.

1467
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean my thing in la Is I go to

1468
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: donut places at like seven pm.

1469
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 3: Is that your thing in la.

1470
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: That is so la So my thing in la Is

1471
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: I got a donor place at seven pm and you

1472
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: will buy a donut and then they'll give you like

1473
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 1: four free ones because they're like we are going to

1474
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: throw these.

1475
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: Out right, which okay, So my point stands. It's like

1476
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 3: we're literally giving them away for free.

1477
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 2: It's true, you can, you should. You kind of got

1478
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 2: to be a holdout.

1479
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: I've just always never understood. I realized we need to end,

1480
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 3: but I've just always never understood the financials of baking pastries.

1481
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 3: Do you know how much effort it takes to make

1482
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 3: a croissant? I've seen videos. It's sort of not worth

1483
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 3: it at the end of the day. I mean to

1484
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 3: be fair, especially when I'm in Ny City. Yeah, I'm like,

1485
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: what are the economics of anything? Well, that's a whole

1486
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 3: other story. How can you afford to have a laundry place?

1487
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 3: I know, I know it's true. I got laundry scamm

1488
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 3: while everyone is operating at a deficit. It's laundry scammed.

1489
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 3: How did you manage that?

1490
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: I got laundry scammed bad?

1491
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 3: What does that mean? You're saying that? That's like, it's

1492
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 3: like it's a category of scamming that we all know.

1493
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 2: It was crazy, how bad.

1494
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: I walked to this place so that does laundry, and

1495
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'll do drop off.

1496
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 2: You know, I'm still in Bushwick in my mind.

1497
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: Oh I see, And so I drop off my laundry

1498
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, that'll be thirty four dollars, and

1499
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: I go, that's crazy apparently, but I already paid it

1500
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: because I was in shock. And then apparently they have

1501
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: a minimum you have to pay thirty dollars up top,

1502
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: and then whatever else on top of that. Okay, so

1503
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: my laundry was like five dollars because what I made

1504
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: so much money for it, and I was too embarrassed to.

1505
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 2: Be like, can you give me a refund?

1506
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: Can I go somewhere else? This is insane?

1507
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 2: So I paid thirty four to thirty five dollars for

1508
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 2: like two shirts.

1509
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 1: For literally like like a travel bag of clothes. Like

1510
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: it was the most humiliating, and I'm admitting it because

1511
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: I feel so much shame. They got me good. You

1512
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: can get laundry scammed everyone.

1513
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,440
Speaker 3: Well, this is like when I at the Denver airport.

1514
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 3: You know Denver, I didn't know this is known for

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Speaker 3: its honey. Did you know that I had no idea

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01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 3: Denver's known for its honey, folks. And at the airport,

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01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: I got a thing of honey and I saw under

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01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 3: it it had like a normal price. It was like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know whatever, ten dollars. Obviously it's artisanal honey.

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01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 3: Understand you can get cheaper honey. Then I went to

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Speaker 3: pay and they said something like you know, they said

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01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 3: they said fifty dollars, but I heard fifteen. I was like, okay, fifteen, fine,

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01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 3: and I take it. I look at the recut and

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01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 3: it's fifty dollars because I had gotten it. Turns out

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Speaker 3: Saffron Honey. Did you know Saffron is a billion dollars?

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what's so I had to actually

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Speaker 3: it's crazy. So basically I did actually muster up the

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Speaker 3: courage to go back to the stand at the airport

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01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 3: and on say guys like, I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: I misheard you and I did not think this was

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Speaker 3: fifty dollars. And then I bought a normal Honey.

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Speaker 1: So you can get laundry scan, you can get honey scams.

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Speaker 3: Honey scammed in Denver the less.

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Speaker 1: Wow you guys were, We're gonna expose all the scams

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01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: you can get because we're gonna have them happen to us. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: this has been an amazing episode, and I think summer

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01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 1: is gonna pop the fuck.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's gonna be so fun. I can't

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01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 3: Wait to Dine Off Fresco.

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01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: Stream Runway by Lady Gaga and.

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Speaker 3: Doci stream ag and m Music stream music stream I

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Speaker 3: Feel Like Kylie The Kylie Documentary. Watch Watch I Love

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 3: Boosters by Boots Riley. Watch Scary movie unless it's bad.

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01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: Unless it's bad. There was a pronounce stroke in the

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01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 1: trailer that was quite corny. Where dots dots everywhere, no

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01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: sharp edges.

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01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: Have some braised greens with a squeeze of lemon for brightness.

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01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna have just you know, something that's normal,

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01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: maybe a biscuit with cheese, slap a fish on top.

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Speaker 3: Correct engage in real debates, but try to resist fake debates.

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01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: No, when a debate is fake. You are smart enough

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01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: to know when a debate is real when it's fake.

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01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 3: That's one of the big issues with media literacy. If

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01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 3: someone comes to you and they say, oh, what's your

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01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: take on the big topic of the day, which is

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01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 3: Anne Hathaway's accent in the Odyssey, Say that's fake.

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01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: That's fake.

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01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: You're being fed Alie.

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01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and get get yourself some wind chimes. Put them

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01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 3: in your bathroom indoors and unrelated.

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Speaker 1: But if you haven't read it, by now read Lena

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01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: Dunham's Famesick.

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01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we didn't do Book of the Summer. Read Famesick. Yeah,

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01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 3: because it's so firmly spring, it's so complicated, you know, Famesick.

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01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 3: Then we thought the Ben Lerner book was going to

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01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 3: be a bigger deal, but people talked about it for

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01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 3: exactly five days. And now it's all about that book

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 3: about tradwives. But we'll see. Have you read it, beca

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01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 3: it's called Yesteryear and actually it's already been optioned by

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Speaker 3: n Hathaway. That's about a tradwife influencer who wakes up

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Speaker 3: and is actually in traditional times. Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, you know, one could say, by the time that

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Speaker 3: movie comes out, are we still going to be talking

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01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,440
Speaker 3: about tradwives talking about the fake debate of the century.

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 3: Probably not. Probably not, so shout out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, see you guys in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye,