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Speaker 2: Welcome in. I believe Dan Byer is back, which is awesome.

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Speaker 2: He was at Aaron Hills last Sunday for the conclusion

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Speaker 2: of the Women's US Open that chance to travel home,

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Speaker 2: see family, see friends, as well nephew's graduation, so he's back.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, dB, and we're all back ready for the

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals, which gets underway tonight at pay Com in

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City. If you don't know the crew, Jason Stewart

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Speaker 2: is the esteem producer and of course Big Apple Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Sam is on the ones and twos and likes to

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Speaker 2: chime in and occasionally filibuster on the show. Jam packed.

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Speaker 2: First hour of the show, Dan Dakich, host of Don't

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Speaker 2: At Me, will join us. Of course, he's mister Indiana

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Speaker 2: or Indianapolis, and he'll give us his perspective. There are

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Speaker 2: some interesting kind of quirks to the Indiana Pacers story.

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Speaker 2: Also got a it's a kind of fascinating thing on. Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not really a Derek Carr guy, but there is

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Speaker 2: something that Derek Carr did on his way out of

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Speaker 2: It's pretty solid stuff, pretty solid stuff. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we can fit it in, but there was Stanley

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Speaker 2: cupp The Stanley Cup finals were played last night. I

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Speaker 2: do have just a quick question. I know Bayer knew

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Speaker 2: because that's buyer, that's kind of stuff. J Did you

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Speaker 2: know the Stanley Cup Finals were last night?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Did you watch?

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Speaker 3: Negative?

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Speaker 2: You watched Dodd Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: Mexican Dan sent me a great SoundBite though, wing Gretzky

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Speaker 3: making a spot on prediction during that game. We'll get

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait, can't wait. It was one of those things.

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Speaker 2: And my son Hayes is up here with me and

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Speaker 2: we went after the show, we went out and hit

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Speaker 2: watching the Stanley Cup Finals and he's like, is this

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Speaker 2: you missed during the show. You know, it's weird. The

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Speaker 2: Have you guys noticed that. We there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: the greatest thing Lebron James ever did was take that

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Speaker 2: What's lost in that is, you know, there was a

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Speaker 2: But otherwise they've been pretty dominant throughout and that's why

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Speaker 2: They have home court advantage, and they do have a

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Speaker 4: And we saw it in the Bucks series, we saw

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Speaker 4: And It's not that I'm going to tune in at

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Speaker 2: I'll buttress that remarks with this and this I'm not

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Speaker 2: In this particular case, We're going to keep playing with

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Speaker 2: great depth, and both teams play a style where they're like,

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Speaker 2: you know, if if you call a foul, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna call everyone. And there's just such a

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Speaker 2: If it's a tightly officiated game, I think it favors

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Speaker 5: Staying true to who we are is the reason why

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Speaker 2: we are. Here's his counterpoint, Tyrese Haliburton on what his

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Speaker 6: So this is the best challenge, and this is the

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Speaker 6: just they just do everything so well. So there's no

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Speaker 2: It is what it is. Doug Gottlieb Show here on

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Speaker 2: What about you, Doug Gottleb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I

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Speaker 2: hope you're having a great day. The Doug Gottlieb Show

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Speaker 2: broadcasting for the What do we determined? It was? Ah,

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Speaker 2: that's right. I think this is the nineteenth consecutive year

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Speaker 2: for the first Game one of the NBA Finals, the

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Speaker 2: funky Colt Mark Medina will join us. Wayne Gretzky made

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Speaker 2: a spot on prediction for Game one of the Western

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, Game one of the Stanley Cup Finals during

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Speaker 2: Okay, so don't call to throwback Thursday. Essentially is a

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. I want

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Speaker 2: Kevin Dyson, Kevin, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand is right in my wheelhouse. But I have

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Speaker 2: And we thought we were going to play Duke. We'd

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were, actually they were. Ohio State was a

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Tulsa beat Cincinnati in the second round, seventh seventh seed.

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Speaker 3: They played Miami and beat them.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't that Bill?

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Speaker 3: At some point. Somebody needs to give me credit for that.

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Speaker 3: One of the rare years in that era. That was

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Speaker 3: The New York Yankees were finishing off their third straight

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Speaker 2: Two thousand was the Olympics in Paris.

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Speaker 4: The thing that I've forgot about about those games were

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Speaker 2: I don't remember anything. I remember very little about football

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Speaker 4: I was that year, right, September eleventh, two thousand and one.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Yankees beat the Mets in two thousand

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Speaker 4: The Subway Series that we.

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Speaker 3: Played them in two thousand and one after September eleventh,

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Speaker 3: Mike Piazzo's on that team. I just remember them asking

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Speaker 9: Hello, Creed, can you take me?

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Speaker 10: Revived by Kirk Cousins playing it in NFL locker rooms,

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Speaker 10: liking it for what it was.

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Speaker 3: But in two thousand movies.

436
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Speaker 2: That year, the top the charts movies that year, the

437
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Speaker 2: most watched picture was How the Grinch Stole Christmas?

438
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Speaker 4: Yep, Jim Carrier, that was good. That's a good Holly movie.

439
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: Here's how long we've they've been doing Mission impossibles. That

440
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Speaker 2: was Mission Impossible. To the original Gladiator, The Perfect Storm.

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Speaker 4: I've seen that one. I love the Perfect great movie,

442
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Speaker 4: great cast, perfect.

443
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Speaker 2: The Parents, the first X Men scary movie, which I

444
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Speaker 2: know most people laugh at, scared their crap out of me.

445
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Speaker 2: I don't like scary movies, and I know that was

446
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Speaker 2: supposed to be funny. Yeah, Aaron Brockovich was that year.

447
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Speaker 3: Oh, No, scary movie was a that was kind of

448
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Speaker 3: like a what do you call horror sumentary comedy?

449
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Speaker 2: That was a horror movie. No, it was a scary movie.

450
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Speaker 4: It was a comedy.

451
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Speaker 2: The not so scary movie was a comedy.

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Speaker 4: They're all comedies. They're all the Waynes Brothers.

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Speaker 2: No, that wasn't the Wayne's Brother was it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, scary scary movie franchise. They made like seven of

455
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Speaker 10: them or something, made a lot. Yeah, scary movie is

456
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Speaker 10: just that's why it's the whole joke is in the name.

457
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Speaker 4: Like scary movie.

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Speaker 10: It's like all I mean, Sara, I guess there are

459
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Speaker 10: slightly alarming, frightening parts, but.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Hayes Gottlieb's favorite sports movie was that year, remember

461
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Speaker 2: the Titans. It's a good one. That was a good one.

462
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Speaker 2: Oh you know what, maybe it was Scream was the.

463
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Speaker 10: Yes, Yes, Scream is like Drew Barrymore and uh yeah

464
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Speaker 10: that was Nev Campbell. Yeah those are Yeah, that was

465
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Speaker 10: a legit horror movie. But the Scary Movie franchise just

466
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Speaker 10: like a playing making fun of all these horror movies.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we can't.

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Speaker 10: We would be remiss if we left Supernatural by Santana

469
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Speaker 10: off of this. Uh, because he had two of the

470
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Speaker 10: top three songs Smooth featuring Rob Thomas, and then he

471
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Speaker 10: had this song and this is one of those albums.

472
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Speaker 10: Supernatural came out in ninety nine, two thousand, good front

473
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Speaker 10: to back. Every single song he had like collabse with

474
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Speaker 10: I think Lauren hill Ski what was it ce Low

475
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Speaker 10: I think he was on one of his songs. Just

476
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Speaker 10: a ton of ton of great collaborations. This was Santana

477
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Speaker 10: featuring the product Gene b Maria Marie good song. Great

478
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Speaker 10: album won some Grammys. I believe Mari it was the

479
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Speaker 10: album of the year.

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Speaker 3: The show Survivor debut, Doug.

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Speaker 2: Love Survivor, You guys know that's I think the most

482
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Speaker 2: influential show in business should be the most influential show

483
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Speaker 2: in all of business.

484
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Speaker 3: And of course, could all of us name at least

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Speaker 3: one cast member from the original Survivor?

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Speaker 4: I think so.

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Speaker 10: I can only name the guy who won it the

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Speaker 10: first year.

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Speaker 3: That's it. What's his name?

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Speaker 4: Richard Hatch Nice?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The car, the car that they got.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like an outback. Wasn't under something like.

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Speaker 2: It was a It was a Pontiac was supposed to

494
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Speaker 2: be like a Pontiac Crossover Pontiac suv O And it

495
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Speaker 2: looks distinctively like the Gadget Mobile from Inspector Gags.

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Speaker 4: Did you know another contestant Sue Hawk?

497
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Speaker 3: Sue Hawk? Was she the runner up?

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Speaker 8: She was?

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Speaker 4: No, She was the one that eviscerated another contestant that

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Speaker 4: I won't say their name in the tribal council with

501
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Speaker 4: Sue Hawk was from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: That's right, she had the big Wisconsin accident. Yeah, ye, yeah.

503
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Speaker 3: Elizabeth Hasselbeck was not on season one.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no. I'll tell you my favorite memory though

505
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Speaker 4: about season one because I watched Survivor that I left

506
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Speaker 4: and now we've been back in it for about the

507
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Speaker 4: last decade. Was at the end, Jeff Propes asked who

508
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Speaker 4: here lost weight, and there was a woman who was

509
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Speaker 4: about sixty five seventy that was like the first one

510
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Speaker 4: voted out. Her name was Sonya. She was on the

511
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Speaker 4: island for forty eight hours, Okay, then she was gone

512
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Speaker 4: and she raised her hand like, all right, when you're

513
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Speaker 4: there forty eight hours, you're not losing weight like someone

514
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Speaker 4: who was there for thirty eight days. But obviously people

515
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Speaker 4: slim down when you're not eating for like a month.

516
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Speaker 4: Rudy was on there. Rudy Kelly Wigglesworth was another contestant.

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Speaker 3: She was the one that I faced now made him

518
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Speaker 3: five years down, thank you.

519
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Speaker 4: To the final and that's who Sue Hawk eviscerated Dan

520
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Speaker 4: there is that just made me think of this.

521
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Speaker 10: I forgot the name of the show, but there was

522
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 10: a very popular show in the last five years where

523
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 10: people would try to survive out in the wilderness and

524
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Speaker 10: the men with the most amount of like belly fat

525
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Speaker 10: would win because they didn't have to worry about eating

526
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Speaker 10: as much. They could just burn through their fat sure,

527
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Speaker 10: and then they'd be like completely skinny by the end

528
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Speaker 10: of this. Like it was called like a loon surviving

529
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Speaker 10: a loan or a loan loan survivor.

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Speaker 4: Or something like that kind of just made me think

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Speaker 4: of that.

532
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Speaker 3: That was literally what Richard Hatch said was his strategy there.

533
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Speaker 3: He showed up fat and one role.

534
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Speaker 2: What I remember about Survivor was I was in Russia

535
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Speaker 2: and I had seen the first couple of shows, and

536
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Speaker 2: my mother in law at the time sent us cassette

537
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Speaker 2: tapes and we had to be incredibly vigilant, like we're

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Speaker 2: only going to watch one episode because we had like

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Speaker 2: Eurosport and one other in speaking TV TV channel that

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Speaker 2: was like news all the time. Uh it was it

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Speaker 2: was one of the news. It was like CNN, but

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Speaker 2: it wasn't CN and I it was BBC BBC. We

543
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Speaker 2: had BBC and then we had Eurosport and then there

544
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: was a BBC that showed TV shows. So you know,

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Speaker 2: when you get Survivor cassettes, you're like, oh my god,

546
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Speaker 2: these are gold. We're like, all right, we're only gonna

547
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Speaker 2: watch it two days a week, one episode at a time.

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Speaker 2: And I mean we you would like now you're like

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Speaker 2: watching episodes, You're on your phone, you're getting popcorn, you

550
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Speaker 2: do whatever. Like we were locked in on that stuff,

551
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Speaker 2: locked in on Survivor. And that is don't call it

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Speaker 2: throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 7: Don't call it a throwback thack Thursday. Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 7: had the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch

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Speaker 7: all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and

556
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Speaker 7: within the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: It's a Doug Ottleab show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 9: Do you guys?

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Speaker 2: Do you guys remember that show? What would you do?

560
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Speaker 2: I've Derek Carr did something that I don't know how

561
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Speaker 2: many of us would have done. We'll get to that moment. First, though,

562
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Speaker 2: we have breaking news. Let me get you to Dan

563
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Speaker 2: Fire for the update.

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Speaker 4: Breaking news from Fox Sports sug. It's breaking news, but

565
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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's surprising news. A report from

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Speaker 4: the NFL network says free age of quarterback Aaron Rodgers

567
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Speaker 4: has told the Steelers he will sign a one year

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Speaker 4: deal to play in Pittsburgh in the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's big news.

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Speaker 4: Jerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh The Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Yes,

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Speaker 4: had to get the both of them in, says Rogers.

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Speaker 4: Expect is expected to attend minute camp next week.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Aaron Rodgers, out of the darkness, retreat and into

574
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Speaker 2: the into the Steelers Jay Stu, what is give me

575
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Speaker 2: the one word to describe your emotion? When you hear that.

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Speaker 3: Very predictable, that's my emotion.

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Speaker 2: That's your emotion. Yeah, Oh, I'm actually surprised. You know

578
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Speaker 2: why what do you always say that you root for?

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Speaker 2: What do you root for in your job? What are

580
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Speaker 2: you root for?

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Speaker 3: I root for chaos, discomfort, root for content?

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Speaker 2: Content. Aaron Rodgers in the NFL. Aaron Rodgers with the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. Aaron Rodgers no showing and not telling anybody

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Speaker 2: until now and then early Jun be like, yep, go

585
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Speaker 2: play for the Steelers. Does that fit the bill?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Aaron Rodgers great content.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly. So here's what I here's this is. We're

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Speaker 2: rolling on this. So we'll put this on social media,

589
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Speaker 2: Okay that you will have people say one hundred different

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Speaker 2: takes on Aaron Rodgers playing this year for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Here's the only one that matters. Okay, and it's not

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Speaker 2: because I'm saying it. I'm saying it because it's the

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Speaker 2: take that matters. This is phenomenally good news. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean the Steelers are going to win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: doesn't even mean to make the playoffs, doesn't mean you'll

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Speaker 2: have a great season. What it does mean is how

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Speaker 2: can you not pay attention to the Steelers? And in

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Speaker 2: the Steelers defense, they've gone how many years without quality

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Speaker 2: quarterback playing. It doesn't mean Aaron Rodgers is going to

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Speaker 2: be vintage or even end of last season in Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: he may stink, but it makes sense because he was

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Speaker 2: the best possible option for a team that just needs

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Speaker 2: a quarterbacky. He's now going to play for another historic franchise,

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Speaker 2: Packers being one, Steelers being the next. I don't view

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Speaker 2: the Jets as a historic franchise, despite the fact they

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Speaker 2: pulled off what's deemed to be the biggest upset spool history.

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Speaker 2: But more than anything, it's awesome. One of the greatest

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks of our lifetime has committed to playing another year

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Speaker 2: in the NFL for one of the story franchises and

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Speaker 2: a long tenured head coach who everybody likes and we

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Speaker 2: all give a pass because he doesn't have a quarterback

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Speaker 2: now he does, and a defense. And then the Steelers

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Speaker 2: and they tailor made it and got rid of their

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Speaker 2: problem child wide receiver, brought in all these tight ends.

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Speaker 2: It all seems to work on paper, and it doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter if it does work, because if you can't be great,

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Speaker 2: at least be interesting. And the Steelers are interesting. Have

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Speaker 2: you looked at the I don't love schedule watching, as

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Speaker 2: we know, but there are two that pop up on

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Speaker 2: that schedule for the Pittsburgh Steelers, which feel very delicious

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Speaker 2: to take a bite out of. Actually three yeh three games.

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Speaker 2: They opened the season in New York or in Jersey

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Speaker 2: against the Jets. The fourth game, fourth game of the

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Speaker 2: season is in Pittsburgh against the Vikings, and after the

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Speaker 2: bye week, in a couple more games, right, I think

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Speaker 2: they're in this game seven week eight Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 2: They take on the Green Bay Packers. Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 2: So whether or not the Steelers win or lose doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter to any of us, and definitely doesn't matter to

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Speaker 2: the NFL. The NFL won today, kids, They won today,

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Speaker 2: and they won today in no small part because look

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Speaker 2: at the games. CBS gets the Jets game. I think

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Speaker 2: that game the uh oh, the Vikings game is not

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, right, it's somewhere else, Dublin.

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Speaker 4: Game against Islands in Ireland, Ireland.

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Speaker 2: And so the NFL network wins on that one. And

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Speaker 2: why is it it won because that's the Vikings, the

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Speaker 2: team that he reportedly wanted to play for, right, and

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Speaker 2: then the Packers is NBC. Everybody wins. Everybody wins. Buyer

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Speaker 2: your reaction as a native Wisconsin but also somebody who

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Speaker 2: has never been a big Rogers guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about time, Like he needs to be in,

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Speaker 4: he needs for the betterment of the team. This shouldn't

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Speaker 4: have gone. It shouldn't go up to training camp. It

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Speaker 4: shouldn't be one of those things I thought he should

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Speaker 4: have been there prior. I think he should have been

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Speaker 4: there these last couple of weeks. I know he has

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Speaker 4: done throwing sessions, but I at least will give him

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Speaker 4: a tip of the cap to be like, all right,

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Speaker 4: let's see it, let's do work. And he's going to

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Speaker 4: be doing work in June.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. Have I won you over Jays too, because

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Speaker 2: you are a guy that searches for great content. Let

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Speaker 2: me ask Dan Dakich. The show is called Donut at

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Speaker 2: Me Double d. Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers. Uh, not

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Speaker 2: official but Twitter official. What's your reaction?

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Speaker 8: Hello? Yes? Dan? Hey? What's up, buddy? I didn't hear it?

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Speaker 8: Daniel live?

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Speaker 2: Hey Dan, you're live on national radio. How are you good?

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Speaker 8: For me in the nation? My phone kept connecting to

661
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Speaker 8: my car and I'm in my house. Weird stuff. What's

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Speaker 8: going on? Douglas? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers reportedly going to become a Pittsburgh Steeler?

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 8: Oh? I think it had to happen, right. Do you

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Speaker 8: know this? You always you always get jobs before they're announced.

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Speaker 8: And everything seemed way too obvious that he was going

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Speaker 8: to go there. What is Steelers going to do? No

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Speaker 8: matter what Donald Trump says, Mason Rudolph is not the

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Speaker 8: answer to anything. But a good looking guy with a

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Speaker 8: good mustache. Good for him. It looks like he'll be

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Speaker 8: there for Minny Camp so good. I was hoping the

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Speaker 8: Colts would get him now that Anthony Richardson is once

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Speaker 8: again hurt, but he doesn't. He goes through the Steelers

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Speaker 8: and I think that was pretty obvious.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to basketball obviously, you know as a former

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Speaker 2: head coach, longtime basketballnalist or now you cover all things.

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Speaker 2: If you were describe the Pacers run to the finals,

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Speaker 2: what would it be.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to say predictable because of how they played

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Speaker 8: the second half of the season. People don't really understand

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Speaker 8: they've been I think they had the best record tied

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Speaker 8: with maybe Cleveland in it in the East second half

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Speaker 8: of the season. And here's why. I don't know if

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Speaker 8: it's predictable to go to the finals, you haven't gone

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Speaker 8: in twenty five years. But unsurprising, let's put it that way.

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Speaker 8: The people that paid attention because they Doug you know this.

688
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Speaker 8: I know I saw something the other day. You know

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Speaker 8: you got to go two hard times, I think is

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Speaker 8: what you guys put out on Twitter, and the Pacers did.

691
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Speaker 8: Haliburton was terrible early in the year. He admitted he

692
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Speaker 8: was terrible. He was soft, he wasn't guarding, and you

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Speaker 8: know when you go through hard times and then all

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Speaker 8: of a sudden, since January first, you're playing as good

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Speaker 8: as basketball as there is in Your point guard's going

696
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 8: nine point eight to one and a half, assists, the turnovers,

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Speaker 8: and you have real talent on the team. All that

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Speaker 8: stuff is good. If you don't have real talent, it

699
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Speaker 8: doesn't matter. But they got real talent. Sakin is a

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Speaker 8: real dude. Nemhart is seen as a guy that's tough,

701
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Speaker 8: but he's a perfect fit guy. And Nei Smith is

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Speaker 8: way better than anybody gives him credit for. I think

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Speaker 8: people are seeing it. So I would have said, you know,

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Speaker 8: not surprising, maybe not predictable. This is a good basketball team,

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Speaker 8: and they've played very very They play as well as

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Speaker 8: any NBA team second half of the season, and isn't

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Speaker 8: that what matters. You know, first half of the season

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Speaker 8: is great, but you know, it's a pretty big sample

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Speaker 8: size since January one, and they've been very, very good.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think Haliburton has these games where he's

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Speaker 2: just a guy out there?

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Speaker 8: I don't know, Doug. It's frustrating. You know, you look

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Speaker 8: at the numbers. Just if you just took the numbers

714
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Speaker 8: and then their losses, he's eight points six assists in

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Speaker 8: their wins, he's thirty two or fifteen. You know it was,

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Speaker 8: honest to god, It's frustrating because Doug, you know, point guard,

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Speaker 8: you know this better than anybody. Point guard said other

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Speaker 8: people but he's asked to score. And he would do

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Speaker 8: this constantly in both of the games where he was

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Speaker 8: just a guy, he would go down the lane and

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Speaker 8: as he was clearing the perimeter into the lane, you know,

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Speaker 8: he's got a nice float game, he's got a nice

723
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Speaker 8: pull up game. He was not looking to score. He

724
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Speaker 8: was looking to pass. And the pass outs weren't an

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Speaker 8: advantation advantageous pass out. You know. It was almost like Doug,

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Speaker 8: I swear to god. It was almost like he had

727
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Speaker 8: scripted in his own miney, I'm not scoring today, Like, okay, great,

728
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Speaker 8: but that's that's not good. He's got to be a dude.

729
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Speaker 8: I got to be a real dude and score first

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Speaker 8: past second when he gets past the perimeter defense. It's

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Speaker 8: frustrating as hell to whit. He passed up so many

732
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Speaker 8: shots that he is so good at in the two

733
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Speaker 8: games where he was bad, and he can't be bad

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Speaker 8: in this series. He's bad in the game. Pacers are

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Speaker 8: going to lose. No, not to be fifteen to Zip.

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Speaker 8: It's funny. He went thirty two points fifteen to Zip.

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Speaker 8: Assist the turnovers. Nextione was Isaiah Thomas, you know the

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Speaker 8: Detroit Isaiah Thomas and you ever do that. He's like,

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Speaker 8: I don't know, you know, nobody does that. He doesn't

740
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Speaker 8: have to be that guy every night, but he can

741
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Speaker 8: have a couple of games like he had that in

742
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Speaker 8: New York Shire.

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Speaker 2: And just as you said, another guy, Yeah, Dan Docas

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Speaker 2: Jonius don't at me on OutKick is his show. He

745
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Speaker 2: joins me on the Doug Outleeb Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: You've been at this long time player coach now broadcaster

747
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Speaker 2: Rick carlosle what what makes him special?

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Speaker 8: Talking to Scott Pollard, who played you a long time

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Speaker 8: in the NBA, played for Rick first time, he made

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Speaker 8: an interesting point and that Mark Boyle, the voice of

751
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Speaker 8: the Pacers, said the same thing. When he was first here.

752
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Speaker 8: He was very controlling. He was very eight seconds, everybody

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Speaker 8: got to look over him, run the play. He didn't

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Speaker 8: run the play right. You're coming out that kind of thing.

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Speaker 8: And I think like players and most coaches do this.

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Speaker 8: You know, you're trying to improve all the time. Most

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Speaker 8: people try to do that. And I really believe that

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Speaker 8: he learned, and I've heard this from other people that

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Speaker 8: know Rick, that he learned. Okay, let's make sure that

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Speaker 8: we adapt on two areas. One the way the game

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Speaker 8: is being played now. You know it's a more open game,

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Speaker 8: three point shooting. You you got to adapt to that.

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Speaker 8: And then the second thing is adapt to the people

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Speaker 8: that we have and anybody that has that. I've talked to,

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Speaker 8: and I've talked to people inside the organization and in others.

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Speaker 8: They say he's done an amazing job at that. You know,

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Speaker 8: when he had Dirk, he set things up for Dirk,

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Speaker 8: and if you think about it, you know he set

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Speaker 8: a defensive strategy. He know as an offensive coach, but

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Speaker 8: he's set a defensive strategy that beat Lebron and those

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Speaker 8: guys you know back in the day with Dirk Novinsky

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Speaker 8: and an older Jason Kidd. And I think that's a

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Speaker 8: big part of it. I think that that championship earned

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Speaker 8: him the trust. And I also think this Doug. I

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Speaker 8: think when you look at organizations and you look at

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Speaker 8: the Pacers, the ownership the Simon's very stable, whether it's

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Speaker 8: Herb or the Sons, and Mels passed away, but Herb

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Speaker 8: or the Sons. And then you look at Kevin Pritchard

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Speaker 8: and Schad Buchanan the president and general manager, they're all

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Speaker 8: in line. There's no drama zero, and you got to

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Speaker 8: mature adult in the room with a proven pedigree in

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Speaker 8: Rick Carlisle. The whole thing is straight down the line.

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Speaker 8: There's no wavering, there's no yapp but there's no drama.

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Speaker 8: There's literally no drama. And they don't have choir boys.

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Speaker 8: Nobody does, but they have no drama on their team, man,

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Speaker 8: And everybody tells me a lot of that's due to

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Speaker 8: the straight line. You just go straight down from Herb

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Speaker 8: Simon and the Sons to Pritchard, to Buchanan to Carlisle, Halliburton,

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Speaker 8: They're all kind of everybody's on the same page. Everybody's

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Speaker 8: pulling in the same direction.

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Speaker 2: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sport Trago.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you have an Indiana senator on earlier this week

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Speaker 2: talking about Angel?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Jim Banks. People in India are little pissed at

795
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Speaker 8: the Fever and a third time that what's her name?

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Speaker 8: Angel Reese and her crew have accused falsely Fever fans

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Speaker 8: of being racist, and no one's stepping up for Fever fans,

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Speaker 8: and Jim Banks said, look, we were owned an apology

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Speaker 8: by somebody, you know, The Fever haven't apologized to their fans.

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Speaker 8: The NBA or the WNBA hasn't said anything other than yeah,

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Speaker 8: we didn't find anything to substantiate it. And I got friends.

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Speaker 8: This really hit me. I got friend he said, Dad,

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Speaker 8: I was sitting in the area. There wasn't a word

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Speaker 8: said racist because we had African American Usians. You think

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00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 8: they're going to take that, you think And he said, like,

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Speaker 8: I spend twenty five thirty five thousand dollars a year,

807
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 8: bring my daughter the game, by season tickets, by all

808
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 8: this stuff. I've been a blank ton of money. And

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00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 8: he's like, you know, now you're known as a racist

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Speaker 8: person because the Fever don't ever say, hey, this isn't

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Speaker 8: our fan base. We could. We don't condone being accused

812
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 8: of something the WNBA. I don't expect Angel Reese to apologize,

813
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 8: but our team should. It's ridiculous and it's the third time,

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Speaker 8: and you know, enough's enough. You know you know this,

815
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Speaker 8: everybody knows this. Somebody's trying to say nonsense about you.

816
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Speaker 8: The only way to stop it is to confront it.

817
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 8: And been disappointed as hell in them, been disappointed in

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Speaker 8: the leadership in Jim Banks State senator said, you know

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Speaker 8: what I stand with our people. We're on apology and

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Speaker 8: I agree with it. I totally agree with him. Jim

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Speaker 8: Bank's a good guy. Obviously there's more important things, you know,

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Speaker 8: but he's on my show, a sports show, so we're

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Speaker 8: going to talk about it, you know, So good for him. Man,

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Speaker 8: he stood up for the people of Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Well, I agree. I mean, my first thing is, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it was Angelice's people is here's the

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Speaker 2: biggest issue I have is why do so many pay

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Speaker 2: attention to people who don't matter on Twitter? Wha? I

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Speaker 2: mean again, there's there's some common sense there. Like I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that there's not people who are racist in

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Speaker 2: the state of Indiana. I mean again, percentage wise, you know,

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Speaker 2: even if it's half of one percent, that there's still

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Speaker 2: that's a number of people. But the likelihood of them

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Speaker 2: attending a fever game, right and only doing this with

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Speaker 2: angel Reese and it's because you picked it up when

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Speaker 2: you're watching a highlight on social media. It's just again,

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Speaker 2: I just I'm blown away by how many people care

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Speaker 2: about people we shouldn't care about.

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Speaker 8: Doug, if you go to a fever game, which I have, yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's all little girls. Their moms, their dads. I mean,

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Speaker 8: this is not a Boston Celtics against the Lakers crowd

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00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 8: in nineteen eighty six. It's like, you know, I mean,

843
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 8: everybody's dressing the Caitlin Clark yellow, whether it's Iowa, whether

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Speaker 8: it's the Fever. And a couple of my actually two

845
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Speaker 8: of my buddies that sat in the area go, I

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Speaker 8: don't know what the hell. You know, you can make

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Speaker 8: something up out of anything. In fact, the initial thought

848
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Speaker 8: was they were talking about people booing when Angel Reies

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Speaker 8: got the ball, like you know, people doing college basketball

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00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 8: all the time. But I'm with you, brother, you know

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Speaker 8: you here's the problem. You make an allegation. And Google's

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00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 8: great in some areas, but Google sucks in other areas

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00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 8: because if you, you know, you look up Fever fans,

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Speaker 8: you're gonna see allegations of racist and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 8: And it's one of those deals. Doug wors it's enough

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Speaker 8: enough enough. You did it once, you did it twice.

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Speaker 8: That's third time. And Angel Rees and the Chicago Sky

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Speaker 8: have been shown to be liars. I mean they lied

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Speaker 8: last year and the video came out. They said they

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Speaker 8: were not allowed in a hotel room because racist people.

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Speaker 8: There was one guy asking the question of Kennedy Carr

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Speaker 8: Rder who cheap shot at Angel Reese. One guy was

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Speaker 8: out there with a camera. Funny said, hey, have you

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Speaker 8: talked to Angel Reason and they'll Reese and excuse me?

865
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Speaker 8: Have you talked to Caitlin Clark and an Angel Reason?

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Speaker 8: You know they came out. Well, we were accosted. We

867
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Speaker 8: couldn't get in to the point where the Chicago Sky

868
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Speaker 8: general manager at saying no, that didn't happen, and the

869
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Speaker 8: evidence proved it didn't. It's it's enough, you know, it's

870
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Speaker 8: like your kids enough listening to nonsense. I'll take you,

871
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Speaker 8: but enough.

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Speaker 2: Well again, the biggest issue is again like I agree,

873
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Speaker 2: it's enough, but it's also it's like it's the point

874
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Speaker 2: you made previously in regards to Google, like there's no

875
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Speaker 2: real way to put the genie back in the bottle.

876
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Speaker 2: And you call people racists, and you call fan based

877
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Speaker 2: racist and you're like, what just because I'm white does

878
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Speaker 2: And I don't like you as a BASKETBA player because

879
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Speaker 2: you play for a different team, Well maybe I don't

880
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Speaker 2: like your persona. It's not because you're blacking. You labeled

881
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Speaker 2: me a racist like, how am I supposed to defend

882
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Speaker 2: myself against that out racist?

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Speaker 8: That's why I know, That's why, That's why I like

884
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Speaker 8: what Jim Banks did because at least now somebody's defending,

885
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Speaker 8: you know. And again, defending doesn't erase it. They'll get

886
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Speaker 8: me wrong. I mean, defending, you know is after the fact.

887
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Speaker 8: And to your point, the genie doesn't go back in

888
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 8: the bottle, Google is forever. But having said that, your

889
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Speaker 8: only repercussion, or you can sit there and do what

890
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Speaker 8: the fever did, which you say, well, you know where

891
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Speaker 8: there's no place for you know, this kind of tie,

892
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Speaker 8: you know, and we couldn't substantiate it. Ain't say it

893
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Speaker 8: didn't happen, but every account it did not happen. But

894
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Speaker 8: I think everybody's so afraid to stand up. I think

895
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Speaker 8: everybody's so afraid to stand up to the old school

896
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Speaker 8: guard of the w NBA out of fear that they'll

897
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Speaker 8: be called racist for denying something I don't know's it's

898
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Speaker 8: the oddest thing in America. The w NBA, in my opinion,

899
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Speaker 8: has shown itself to be exactly what it is, which

900
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Speaker 8: is a racist, sexist mess. And screw them, I mean,

901
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 8: they attacked Mike Town one too many times, Jim Banks

902
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Speaker 8: is sitting one too many times, and then we're gonna

903
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Speaker 8: fight back.

904
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Speaker 2: Screw them, Dan Dockets. The show is called Don't At Me.

905
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Speaker 2: It's on OutKick dot com. You can check it on

906
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Speaker 2: social media as well, of course. Long time basketball coach

907
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Speaker 2: and uh uh basketball analysts and national.

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Speaker 8: What do you got? Give me your prediction? What do

909
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Speaker 8: you got? Who wins?

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Speaker 2: I think the Thunder win. Everybody does, I know, I

911
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Speaker 2: just I just again, like, what is the you know

912
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Speaker 2: so much? It's about matchup strength and strength. Pacers have

913
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Speaker 2: great depth, so to the Thunder. Yeah, I think that

914
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Speaker 2: Haliburton's tremendous, but Shay is more consistent. I do think

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Speaker 2: Siakam is a special, special player and more consistent than

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Speaker 2: Jayalen Williams.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, you know, and maybe it's the

919
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Speaker 2: style they play. He's not always emphasized on what they do.

920
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Speaker 2: And I get my fear of the Thunder is well.

921
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Speaker 2: I think for most people was older team, veteran team

922
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Speaker 2: to get thrown around a little bit, kind of what

923
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Speaker 2: what Denver did to him before Denver was banged up.

924
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Speaker 2: And I don't think that's the Pacers, So, you know,

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Speaker 2: the one, the one, and like go PACER's great home

926
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Speaker 2: court advantage, so does Oklahoma City great. So yes, no question,

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Speaker 2: two good ones. I Actually I think it's gonna be

928
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Speaker 2: a fun series to watch because both teams play fast

929
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Speaker 2: and open and free and you know, it's not Iso ball,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's not thuggery ball. But but I don't

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Speaker 2: think Amerca will watch it that much because the names

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Speaker 2: and the teams and the brands of the players themselves.

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Speaker 8: As I tell people at my age, I'm looking for

934
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Speaker 8: stuff to do, and my big fat ass is going

935
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Speaker 8: to be sitting in front of a TV at a

936
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Speaker 8: thirty fruit from my team and I can't wait. How

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Speaker 8: about that? All right? Thanks?

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