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Speaker 1: do our UFC two ninety seven post fight show. Hello

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Speaker 1: everyone from Morning Combat. My name is Luke Thomas, nearly

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Speaker 1: one half of your hosting duo. The other half of it,

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, is doing the CBS Sports post fight stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I'll be here with you for your post fight show.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to results analysis, your questions to

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's get to these results. UFC. We

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Speaker 1: to you that Ontario will come back to this. Ontario's

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Speaker 1: main event. Here's how it goes. Ready, Tricks Dupless defeats

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Speaker 1: Sean Strickland via split decision two forty eight forty sevens

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Speaker 1: There is a case for Sean Strickland. Forty eight forty

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Speaker 1: So numerically, here's again, this is numerically so this is

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Speaker 1: of all, six takedowns for drinkis duplect eleven attempts a

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Speaker 1: thirty seven for drickis duples. See a lot of what

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Speaker 1: he threw did not get through. Also, they credited Sean

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Speaker 1: credit Sean Strickland with attempting four hundred and nineteen total strikes.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of those are not necessarily going to

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Speaker 1: be a lot of things of consequence. Whereas drickis forever

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Speaker 1: Sean Strickland thirty three to Dricis twenty nine. There it

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Speaker 1: spinning backfist at times. He had a real hard time

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Speaker 1: There wasn't enough diversification of targets getting away from It's

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Speaker 1: making him work even further, putting a little bit more

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Speaker 1: one seventy three for strickling overall significant strikes one thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: I want to see about the targeting of the legs.

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Speaker 1: Targeting of the legs for each guy, Drickis duplec targeted

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Speaker 1: the legs thirty four times. Thirty four times he targeted

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Speaker 1: the legs hit him twenty four times. Strickling just six

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Speaker 1: almost just one around. That's it. Four to four in

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Speaker 1: round one. That's pretty good. One for one in round two,

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Speaker 1: just ten for Sean Strickland, thirty two for Driggis duplessy

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Speaker 1: in round three, one of one in round four, and

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00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: then four or five who begin to open up there,

428
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: Although listen to this head targeting eighty one strikes for

429
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: Driggs duplecy one fifty seven one fifty seven of three,

430
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: eighty seven attempted for Sean Strickland. It was that was

431
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 1: really the entire amount. That was it, I would argue.

432
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 1: So now for piecing together from what the numbers tell us,

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00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: what the videotape showed us. Now thinking about it, I

434
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: would argue some of the things that I've already mentioned,

435
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: but putting together like sort of a comprehensive hole here

436
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: that I really believe Sean Strickland's lack of offensive diversity

437
00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: in terms of both the targeting combination work and it's

438
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: again numerically there's a lot of it to like in

439
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: terms of what the head strikes were, but in terms

440
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: of the overall combinations that involved things outside of that

441
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: or involved it in different ways like you know, two

442
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: punch cobo, then you go to the head kick or

443
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: something like that. He didn't really he wasn't really doing

444
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: anything like that. That limited his opportunities here as well.

445
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: That really limited him. So in the end we get

446
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: a contest where the guy who was the champion performed

447
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: pretty ably, especially on the defensive side, and then we

448
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: have a guy like drinckis Duplessye who we knew was

449
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: slightly more offense oriented. That ended up being mostly the

450
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 1: difference that we thought it would, and it sets up

451
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: what you might imagine as drinckis duples. See what he

452
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: has said was he wanted a shot against Israel, not

453
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: a shot, but a fight against the former CHAMPI Israela

454
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: Sonya right. He wants to fight Izzy, which I'd be

455
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: cool with. I don't know if it's exactly what everyone

456
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: else wants. I guess we'll see what the fan base

457
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: really feels like. To me, that is a fun contest.

458
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: I did not believe that is he deserved an automatic

459
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: rematch after losing to Sean, but then Sean taking this

460
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: and now it creating a situation where who would be next.

461
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: I don't think Hamzad is the guy right now, although

462
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: we shall see. I take the easy fight big time.

463
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Does that headline three hundred? I don't know.

464
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I wouldn't be against it.

465
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's exactly the blockbuster main event

466
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: that people are necessarily hoping for. It could be, but

467
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: that appears to be a possibility. I really enjoyed that fight,

468
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: and to me, that one is a little bit more interesting.

469
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: Izzy is not as defensively. His game is not as defensively.

470
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: He has good defense, he has very good defense. He

471
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: doesn't take too many shots cleanly, but Sean's style is

472
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: to kind of be in the space, and it's defensive friction,

473
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: hands up blocking, you know, it's kind of bouncing off

474
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: his shoulder. It's a lot of friction. I'm blocking punching lanes.

475
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm you know, a lot on the arms and shoulders,

476
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of just in that space is he's

477
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: a little bit more head movement, stuff misses than he counters,

478
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: or Robert Whitakers in front of him, and he's backing

479
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: up and he's punching in that way, right, It's a

480
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: very different kind of style where it's that's a little

481
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: bit more brute force and meets offensive kind of. They're

482
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: both very technical, but a little bit more razzle dazzle.

483
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: That's actually going to be really interesting matchup with a

484
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: big I think possibility for a KO relative to this

485
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: one where both guys are Sean doesn't have a ton

486
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: of offensive firepower. DDP does, but he's heavily thwarted by

487
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: a guy who's got excellent defense. So you had a

488
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: good fight, but a little bit stuck stuck in the muzzle. Yeah,

489
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit stuck in the mud, A little bit,

490
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: a little bit a good fight, but a little bit

491
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: stuck in the mud. I think as a consequence, a

492
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: little bit of that, and that's the fight. I think

493
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: the bigger story will be looking at the individual offensive

494
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: sequences that both guys tried. What were some of the

495
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: very specific details of what we saw from what Shawn

496
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: offfer defensively, what Drickus was doing defensively. We talked about

497
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: the different preferences from what he liked from different stances,

498
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: some of the different stance switching combinations and different entries. Again,

499
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: some of the the amount of attacking, the amount of

500
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: overall work he's put together, the amount of times he

501
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: was working for takedowns, just did a little bit more

502
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: offensively in the end, but the nuances of what they

503
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: were trying, and again, I'm gonna go back to it

504
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: one more time. Dude, Sean Strickland's defense to me is

505
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna like whatever he's got going now, the style he's

506
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: cooking with now, I don't know if he's gonna win

507
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: every fight, but he's going to like absolutely this. I mean,

508
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: he's been doing it for a while, but you know,

509
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: against Padta it wasn't a great example. And then you

510
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: see like you're beating you know, the Aubusmaga meadows of

511
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: the world. It's hard to know exactly how good the

512
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: offense is or even needs to be. And then you

513
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: see it against Izzy, You're like, oh, yeah, it's very good.

514
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: Then you see it against Drinks and you're like, right,

515
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: this is gonna scale against elite opponents for a while.

516
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: Like this is like and by the way, the idea

517
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: that he might not come back to this place and

518
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: get a title shot always these are questions about how

519
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: much the UFC wants to see you in those positions.

520
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: That is incontestably true. But it's not like he got

521
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: the doors blown off him tonight. He certainly did not.

522
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: He has a case or even winning it. And what

523
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: he's got going on. How old is Sean Strickland Shawn

524
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: Strickland currently sits with US at Yeah, he's thirty two.

525
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 1: He'll be thirty three in February. But still that's, you know,

526
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: close to prime. I have to tell you he might

527
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: get back here sooner or or later. I don't think

528
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: it's out of the question at all. I mean, it's

529
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: hard to say. The world is unpredictable, but he's got

530
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: exactly the kind of defense that's going to keep him

531
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: in make any kind of fight with any kind It's

532
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: like he throws on the gee and the game slows down,

533
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: like his style of defense slows everything down, makes everything

534
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: more measurable, makes everything a little bit easier to react to.

535
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: Even if he's flinching, it does create other openings, but

536
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: even when you take advance and of those openings, he

537
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: has stalwarts defense on those second and third layers as well,

538
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: as we indicated, like we're guys where if you're if

539
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: you're not balanced because you're leaning, you're available for the takedown.

540
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: But then even if you get the takedown, you can

541
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: look at how much he really resists that as well. Dude,

542
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a tough guy to beat. He's gonna

543
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: be a very, very tough guy to beat. He got

544
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: beat today, but barely. And his defense is remarkable. He

545
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: might have the best defense. He's got the most some

546
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: of the most unusual defense, certainly in the UFC middleweight

547
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: division and the UFC overall, but some of the most

548
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: effective as well. It's just it's an admirable skill to have.

549
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: It's going to keep him in competitive fights against elite guys.

550
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: But if he really wants it's the same thing, it's

551
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: not the same problem in terms of the specific tactical choices.

552
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: But if I'm being honest, I think it's the thing

553
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: that kind of cost him against Jared Cannoneer as well.

554
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I just didn't feel like he did enough in that contest.

555
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: Let me look at the numbers in the Jared Cannoneer fight.

556
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: The numbers back up my claim. Let's see, obviously, against

557
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: Imovov he had plenty, but against Jared Kannoneer he again,

558
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: he attempted four hundred and ten strikes in that fight,

559
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: only landed one hundred and fifty seven of them, which

560
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: was more than Cannoneer's four one. So let's go through

561
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: the numbers. Cannonear sixteen to thirteen round one, cannon Air

562
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: twenty five to twenty eight. Round two. Oh, these are

563
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: very close. Jesus thirty three to thirty five. Round three.

564
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: Cannoneer to Strickland twenty seven to thirty three, and then

565
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: forty to forty three. These guys were never more than

566
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: six strikes apart, so that's a little bit different. They

567
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: were kind of always neck and neck. This one had

568
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: more lopsided round one in round five, but nevertheless, he

569
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: never kind of broke away from the other guy. Against

570
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: Cannonear and here he had enough rounds with the other

571
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: guy that was just a little bit more so I

572
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: would I would say, if you're sewn Strickland, you're in

573
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: his corner, you're in his coach. There's a lot to

574
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: like here. There's a lot to take home. There's a

575
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: lot that's going to keep you in the ball game

576
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: going forward. If there is a common denominator about some

577
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: things that have helped him back, it just has to

578
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: be not what the numeric striking total show, but about

579
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: meaningful offense that has a memorable impact or otherwise changes

580
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: your opponent's incentives or decision making. There is not enough

581
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: of that, whereas you do get enough of that with Drickis,

582
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: even if you get some bizarre mechanics, even if you

583
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: get him slipping and I mean, how many times you

584
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: see him throw an overhand right and then fall forward

585
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: or you know, you see it a lot on spinning backfist,

586
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: but even not on spinning backfists, he was falling all

587
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: over the place a little bit. I mean, yeah, he's

588
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: trying to go and that was great, but he's you know,

589
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: he's getting after it, even to the point of putting

590
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: himself out of position and off balance. I don't necessarily

591
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: recommend that. I'm just saying it's kind of emblematic of

592
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: the story of the fight. So both guys, it's not

593
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: great to lose again if you're Sean Strickland. But I

594
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: don't think this is as an indicate. I don't think

595
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: this is hardly any kind of death sentence or his future.

596
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: And for Dricis it looks like is he is probably

597
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: going to be next, and where that goes and when

598
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: on the calendar that is will be kind of interesting.

599
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: We shall see. I had to get some water. Excuse me. Okay,

600
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: we'll get to some of these questions about it here

601
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: in just a minute. All right, let's talk about this

602
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: comin event for as little as possible. Little as possible,

603
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: Raquel Pennington defeats Mara Bueno Silva forty ninety six on

604
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: two of the judges scorecards and then forty nine forty

605
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: five on one of the other ones. Not a great

606
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: fight at all, Raquel Pennington, You're obvious and deserved winner.

607
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Raquel could have punted on the first few rounds and

608
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: or the first couple of rounds anyway, and then just

609
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: one on again. Kind of effort in the last three

610
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: Buenos Silva was not there at all in the last

611
00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: two rounds, was barely there in the third, and that

612
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: fight was terrible. That fight was terrible. Silva literally finished

613
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: the fight on her back getting leg kicked, and like

614
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: not even the hardcore leg kicks, not like soccuraba leg

615
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: kicks or something, just just like standard old leg kicks

616
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: or whatever, just like you know, kind of keeping you busy,

617
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: and like laid there for like thirty seconds doing that,

618
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: like she was absolutely not prepared for a five round

619
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: title fight. To me, there actually is a pretty cool

620
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: story here which Rocky Pennington, over the age of thirty

621
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: five gets a remarkable win, which is really hard to get.

622
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: Somebody sent me some math. By the way, it turns

623
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: out that like when you really begin to see decline

624
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: among elite fighters on the mail side, one twenty five

625
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: to one seventy, it's actually not thirty five, it's actually

626
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: thirty four. Thirty four is when the real switch begins

627
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: to flip in terms of negative things happening for their chances.

628
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: But here Raquel Pennington and thirty five gets the job

629
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: done and was the deserved winner. And I will tell

630
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: you that this was not a position most folks thought

631
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: she would be in. After the fourth round of her

632
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: fight again to Amanda Unez, when she turned to her

633
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: corner and said she did not want to go back

634
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: out there. They kind of cajoled her into going back

635
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: out there, which ended up being this large controversy, and

636
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: then she got pummeled in the fifth round. I think

637
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: she got her nose broken, and you're like, okay, well

638
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: that's that. But then Amanda Nonez basically flattens the division

639
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: and then leaves and Penitent's just kind of hanging around

640
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: using veteran savvy, good clench work, good effort, understanding how

641
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: to win rounds, understanding how to neutralize opponents, and put

642
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: together a decent wind streak. She arrives at this position.

643
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Bueno Silva has a great ninja choke, which we kind

644
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: of knew, or you can also ninja chokes like a

645
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: newish term that used to just be called a power guillotine,

646
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: but whatever. Anyway, the point is they can be slightly

647
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: different too, But the point being is Silva just had

648
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: nothing really in general. At first. She had some stuff.

649
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: She had great back takes, she had good back control,

650
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: She has a very good ability to off balance from

651
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: the back, even when you're standing with like with like

652
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: these with like these like these inside rides. She has

653
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: a lot of ability there, she has. There was a

654
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: moment there where she was across the jaw from the

655
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: back and she was really beginning to threaten. But once

656
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: you saw that Pennington is not going to go away

657
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: easy Penning, Pennington's gonna be hard to hurt, She's gonna

658
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: be hard to submit. She won't necessarily be hard to

659
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: score on, either with control from the back or with

660
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: any other kinds of strikes, which you did see from Silva.

661
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: But there was no ability for Silva to have any

662
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: sustained effort. She gassed like basically after the third and

663
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: kind of just laid down in the fourth and then

664
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: definitely laid down in the fifth. I mean usually use

665
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: the term like laid down almost like metaphorically, like, hey,

666
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: we're not going to lay down for this opponent. She's

667
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: like literally laid down, I mean, and not maybe perhaps

668
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: not in spirit, but in physicality that she definitely was

669
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: just not doing a whole lot. So it's not like,

670
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's like individual sequences on takedowns and whatnot.

671
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: Like Silva looked better. She looked like she had she

672
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: had rate elbows in the clinch off of framing. I

673
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: thought that was really good as well, Like she had

674
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: some nice weapons. But so much of this game, so

675
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: much of this game comes down to knowing how to

676
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: stay alive, how to minimize damage to the extent possible

677
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: as we indicay of the main event, knowing how to

678
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: win rounds, having good cardio, knowing how to push late right,

679
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: and just sort of just being present in a fight

680
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: and waiting for a mistake to happen, and a big

681
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: mistake is either. However, you want to explain why Silva

682
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: didn't have the requisite cardio, that is up to you.

683
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: But that was the problem. She had not the requisite

684
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: cardio and it really limited her attacks where she was

685
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: just kind of lazily like working from guard. A couple

686
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: of times she was starting with triangles, you know, the

687
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: middle parts, middle to the latest parts of that fight,

688
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: but they were never really all that close. Yeah. I

689
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: hated this fight. I didn't like this fight at all.

690
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 1: And look at some of my notes here that I made,

691
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: if I can, I had to take notes on this

692
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: one because I was like, I'm not going to forget

693
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: I remember a goddamn thing. Yeah, initially great lake kicks

694
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: and then back control ninja choke, and then when that

695
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: would fail, like she would go for the ninja choke

696
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: right and then she would try and lock it up

697
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: here and then it would pop out, so she would

698
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: take that at that elbow and then just slice with it.

699
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: That was nice. I like that. Round two again elbows

700
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: and clinching, framing, and there were some good body works

701
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: he was able to do. Pennington was able to start

702
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: scoring over the top of the right hands off her blitzes,

703
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: and then there was the back tack and then the

704
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: semu close one over the jaw. Round three that I

705
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: even have my notes. She begins to fade and then

706
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: sits to half court half guard to like thwart choke attempts,

707
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: which is a bad news. Didn't threaten from guard at

708
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: all hardly. In round four had a failed arm triangle

709
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: from mount we were kel Pennington did, which somehow it

710
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: felt like she had the mount and mounted arm triangle

711
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: for like seven days and it just didn't finish. I

712
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: think there was like three minutes left in the round

713
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: and Daniel Cormier was like showd Ley here for three

714
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: minutes and I was like, I think Carmier's right. I

715
00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: think Cormier's right. So terrible, terrible fight, not that interesting

716
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: if it just felt like a sort of standard women's

717
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: bantamweight fight that just happened to be five rounds. I

718
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: feel great for Rocky Pennington's story. Someone who's been around

719
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: a long time, someone who's put in a lot of work,

720
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: someone who's been in the trenches, someone who waited her turn.

721
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: You have to feel good about that. There was a

722
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: lot of factors that could have prevented her from being here,

723
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: and they would have tripped up a lot of fighters.

724
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: They didn't trip up her. She was able to make

725
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: it across the finish line, and for that, I think

726
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: we should all be appreciative and respectful of what she's

727
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: been able to achieve. At the same time, how does

728
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: one look at a result like this and think that, Like,

729
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: let me just ask you, if you're Valentina Schevcheco, do

730
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: you like your chances of winning the belt back or

731
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: winning the belt at one thirty five? Gotta tell you

732
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: I would. I would. I'd like my chances. Pennington, you

733
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: knew that this fight was going to take place in

734
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: the clinch and she's going to be able to even

735
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: though her coaches were telling her to fight her a

736
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: distance something for most of the time. But the clinch

737
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: is like a safe zone. She knows how to work there.

738
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: She knows how to stay safe. She knows how to turn,

739
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: she knows how to cover, she knows how to do

740
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: a lot from there. She knows that a trip. She

741
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: knows how to punch, she knows how to like underhook

742
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: and pull and turn. She's got a lot of safe places.

743
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: She just really knows how to hang out in some

744
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: of those spots. You knew it was going to get there,

745
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: you just didn't think it would wear out her opponent

746
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: to that point. I'm just what I'm trying to say, Like,

747
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: what's the Pennington is very well rounded. Pennington had a

748
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: great game plan and she well that's not quite true.

749
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: She had her coaches had a great game plan. She

750
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: didn't execute on it, but she still nevertheless managed to

751
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: get the win. I mean, that's sort of the part

752
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: that really kind of gets me. It's like she didn't

753
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: really execute on what it appeared that her coaches wanted

754
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: her to do and still was able to get the

755
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: job done, which means it was like a really epic

756
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: collapse in my view from Silva, But like, did you

757
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: get the opinion when you watch this the win had

758
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: like a mandate, you know, like wow, like this person's

759
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: like the person in this division, you know, and I

760
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: recognize the division is not strong, but I'm like saying,

761
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: did you get this overwhelming show of force from the champion?

762
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: You didn't get that from DDP, but you have seen

763
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: it as recently as his last fight before this and

764
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: in many others as well. Rocky Pennanton's career is filled

765
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: with a lot of great wins and a lot of

766
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: respectful and respectable excuse me, performances, but a lot of decisions,

767
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: a lot of split decisions. I think she's got four

768
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: finishes overall, three by choke, only one by ko or

769
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: t KO, and I think that's like through eighteen plus

770
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: fights or something like that. In the UFC. It's a lot, right,

771
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, or I should say it's not much, but

772
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: it's a lot of It's a lot of overall work,

773
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: but not that much in terms of the kind that

774
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: we really value. I did not walk away from this

775
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: performance thinking, wells, she's clearly going to be the champion

776
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. I didn't get that opinion at all.

777
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: So she is that tonight. That is very much something

778
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: that we should not take from her. We should not

779
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: completely be like, oh, it's you know, I saw people

780
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: being to close the division. Well that's a little strong.

781
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: That's a little strong. But I certainly recognized there was

782
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: not much in that performance that I was watching and

783
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: being like, well, this is clearly the person that's going

784
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: to hold this title for a quite quite a long time. No,

785
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: not at all that. And for Silva, it's like, you

786
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: beat Holly Holm. Then there was the USADA thing, you

787
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: know whatever, she had some documentation to to apparently justify

788
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: her cause, and then she comes out here in dis

789
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: lays like the biggest of eggs, and it's like, no

790
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: one was really all that excited about this performance, and

791
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: it looked like now their pessimism heading into the contest

792
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: ended up being quite justified. It was just another fight.

793
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: It just happened to go a little bit longer. But like,

794
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: I don't there is no like, there was no The

795
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: DDP Strickling fight was not a crazy barn burner, but

796
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: you could tell there was a lot of different intricacies

797
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: the two guys who were ready to go for twenty

798
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: five minutes, and again it was nip and tuck. This

799
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: was just a good fighter beat a fighter who so

800
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: does have some talent but seemed unprepared for the moment

801
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: and ultimately got beat through just pure effort and better

802
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: decision making down the stretch, but nothing like especially like

803
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: super brilliant decision making, just you know, of meat and potatoes,

804
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that she's done to accumulate the

805
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: opportunities that have been given to her. I respect it,

806
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: but it's, you know, we have to call it what

807
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: it is. It's not it's not like the highest level

808
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: of achievement and or ability we have seen in the

809
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: fight game. It's good for what it was, and that's

810
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: really you know, that's a good that's fine, but it's

811
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: not much more than that. So I don't have much

812
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: more to say on this one. Are there any numbers

813
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: to this one that are kind of interesting? Let's see,

814
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: just very briefly, if I may, I haven't even looked

815
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: at these yet. Jesus Raquel Pennington one hundred and thirty

816
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: four significant strikes landed to Silva's sixty nine. Yikes, Pennington

817
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: is credited with one takedown out of three, two sub attempts,

818
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: two reversals. Silver credited with three of nine takedowns, three

819
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: sub attempts, no reversals. Pennington actually mulating eleven and a

820
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: half minutes of control time Silva eight and a half

821
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: minutes nearly nine minute. Excuse me, now, control time in

822
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: this particular case not just on top of pressing into

823
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: the fence, so it's a little bit warped. Let me

824
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: just look see if there's anything in the numbers. No,

825
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily the targeting. It all looks about as you

826
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: might expect. Yeah, not a lot of light kicking either necessarily,

827
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: especially from Rackuael Pennington. But you kind of knew the

828
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: heading in all right. Elsewhere on this card, Neil Magne

829
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: defeating Mike Mallott. Dude, what the fuck happened here? Wow?

830
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: This was a bad loss for Mike Mallott. He loses

831
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: via TKO at four forty five and round three. All

832
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: he had to do was hang on. Now, maybe round

833
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: three would have been ten eight maybe probably not, but maybe,

834
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: and it would have been a draw, But that would

835
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: have been better than what happened, which is him getting

836
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: finished with fifteen fucking seconds left in the fight. Okay, Jesus, Mike,

837
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: what happened here, dude? What happened? All right, I'll tell

838
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: you what happened. I literally was watching this fight being like,

839
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: I think Neil Magne is shot, Like I don't even

840
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: know what he's got left, and he did not look great.

841
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: We should be clear. First two rounds. I wrote on

842
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: Twitter that he had lost the fight through the first

843
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: two rounds everywhere, and that's true. There was nowhere he

844
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: was winning that fight where it was being contested. There

845
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: was nowhere he was winning that fight. He was losing

846
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: in the stand up again, not necessarily horribly, but the

847
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: lake kicks were landing certainly in like round number one

848
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: for example, to the extent of them, A lot one

849
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: of the takedowns, I believe we'll go to some of

850
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: the numbers here as well. I want to see those. Yeah,

851
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: let's see these takedowns for ma lot. He got four

852
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: of six, not winning the first. He got two in

853
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: the second, he got two in the fourth or two

854
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: in the third, excuse me, of four and then it

855
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: blew up in his face. Listen to these numbers. Twenty

856
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: significant strikes landed for Mike Mallott in round one, just

857
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: five for Neil Magni. Round two twenty one significant strikes

858
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: landed for Mike Mallatt, just six for Neil Magne plus

859
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: the two takedowns plus three minutes of control time. All right,

860
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: and then in round three he goes for a guillotine.

861
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: Neil Magne kind of picks him up, almost like a double.

862
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: I think he did have a double, kind of dropped

863
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: him a lot. Let's go of the choke, goes to

864
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: full guard. I went back and I looked. So he

865
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: crosses his feet. Okay, so he has guard. Then he

866
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: opens his guard. Fine, no problem. He wants to get

867
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: to his offense going. Maybe he wants to stand. No,

868
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: he begins to go for leglocks. Folks, you gotta understand something.

869
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: And again it's not that Mike Mallott doesn't know this.

870
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was thinking exactly. But what

871
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: I can say is, here's what you commonly see in

872
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: this battle. For people who are not like Charles Olavera,

873
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: for example, Charles Olavera will go from full guard, open guard.

874
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: He will go for some kind of leg entanglement reverse

875
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: da la heva da la diva spin underneath begin to

876
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: go for leg locks, and he'll go from all different

877
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: kinds of positions in backside, fifty to fifty, you name it.

878
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: And then if they don't work, guys a lot of

879
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: times escape and he can stand up, or they might

880
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: try to re entangle and he can go back to

881
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: that entanglement process. He can more or less keep himself

882
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: safe because a lot of what he's doing is off

883
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: balancing his opponents. He's rolling underneath them, he's forcing them

884
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: to their hands on the mat right, he's spreading their

885
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: feet apart. So he's really challenging their balance. He's challenging

886
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: their ability to get a stable structure and do work

887
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: or separate. And he's very very good about that. I'm

888
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: not saying Mike Malott is not good at that, but

889
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: he's not Charles Olavera good at that. So what did

890
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: you notice about this? A lot of times guys, when

891
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: they roll underneath for leglocks, which is exactly what he did,

892
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: they have trouble off balancing his opponent. He does get one.

893
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: I think it was like a like a kuru kuru guard.

894
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: I have to go back and the look or may

895
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: have been a broom sweep. I have to go no

896
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: a tripod sweep. I have to go back and check

897
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: and see exactly how he did it. He does sit

898
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: him down for a second and then goes for a

899
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: heel hook. And the problem is Magne is able to

900
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: force his leg across the other side and then send

901
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: kaku It to triangle it and then basically pounds on him.

902
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: And what happens to Mike Malot in the process. He

903
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: ends up in leg drag. He ends up in leg drag,

904
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: to which Magni then goes to side, then goes to

905
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: mount and then goes to victory by leg drag. What

906
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: do I mean leg drag is when their hips go

907
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: this way and then their shoulders go the other way,

908
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: or their shoulders are flat to the mat and the

909
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: hips go the other way, and you have one leg

910
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: between their legs, so you're pinning the bottom leg. You

911
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: can just easily move to side rather than being a

912
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: side control. You're kind of pinning the dominant doubt, or

913
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: you're pinning the bottom leg with your inside leg, and

914
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: then you're usually pinning the other shoulder flat. So the

915
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: hips are going one way and the shoulder are supposed

916
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: to be going the other way. It's called leg drag.

917
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: You can look it up two words, leg drag, and

918
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of ways to get to leg drag.

919
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: But his leg lock fails and he ends up in

920
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: leg drag, which gives the opponent side control. Now he's

921
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: exhausted because he had he was straining to off balance,

922
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: straining to manipulate the weight and the motion of Neil Magni.

923
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 1: He gets exhausted and he gets mounted and he has

924
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: no way to then get himself out of it, and

925
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: then loses the fucking fight, Like, oh my god, this

926
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: was his chance. He's thirty two years old. He I

927
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: think his style is great. I think he was actually

928
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: like he should not have lost this fight, Like he's

929
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: almost tailor made to beat a guy like Neil Magni.

930
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: Strong in the clinch, keeps good range, good fainting. He

931
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: used lot of switch dances to get over with the

932
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: right hook. That wasn't working for him this time. Nol

933
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: Magne was able to get away and they kind of

934
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: saw that coming. But nevertheless, the leg kicking was great

935
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: on top. The ground and pound was good. He was

936
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: moving to mountain himself. He had mount for most of

937
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: the second round. I believe certainly a long amount of it.

938
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: He had three minutes and eight seconds of control time.

939
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: He had everything going for him. He had exactly the

940
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: kind of physicality he needs, He had the technical jiu

941
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: jitsu that needed. He made an epically bad call in

942
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: the third, got tired doing it, ended up in a

943
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: horrible position, and then lost the fight as a consequence.

944
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: You see so many guys roll underneath for leglocks and

945
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: either end up in leg drag or would their back

946
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: take in because they're not Charles Olivera. Charles Olivera is

947
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: the opposite of this. He makes getting into leglocks and

948
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: then getting out of them if someone neutralizes it, like

949
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: for example, Derry Yusch was able to neutralize it for

950
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: as long as it lasted. Then of course he lost

951
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: that fight as well. But you know, you get the idea, like,

952
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: guys have to have a lot to deal with and

953
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't last very long even if they get out

954
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: of one sequence. He doesn't. He doesn't like, oh, I'm

955
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: gonna go for a leg lock and if this doesn't work,

956
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna end up in a ship position and it's

957
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: gonna really compromise me. That that's not the game. He's playing,

958
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: but so many other guys that is exactly the fucking

959
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: game they're playing. Dude, listen to these numbers, were gonna

960
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: tell you for the first round twenty to five for

961
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: Malot to Magnet, round one, twenty one to six, round two,

962
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: how about this forty six to fucking four for Magni,

963
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: forty six to four, forty six to four, Holy shit,

964
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: a minute forty four of control time he gets credited

965
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: with a takedown. Got lie man, god Lee. I've never

966
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: seen a guy go from I just I mean, he

967
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: just the fight it was, You're just just winning it

968
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: until you weren't, like literally just winning it until you weren't.

969
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: And then he just got away from him and that

970
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: was it. Neil Magni is tough as shit, dude. Neil

971
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: Magnie is tough as old shoe leather. We go back

972
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: to it being durable, knowing how to win rounds, having

973
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: good cardio, staying in the fight, keeping your composure, keeping

974
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: your head, not getting down about it. Raquel Pennington has

975
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: some of this. Neil Magnie has some of this. It's

976
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: a super valuable fucking trait. It's a super valuable trait

977
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: even if your opponent appears to be better you in

978
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: a lot of different circumstances. If they can't maintain this

979
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: with the course of the contest and you can and

980
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: your resistance, what do they say, what's the phrase? I

981
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: can't remember. It's late in the evening. But all they

982
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: have to do is just hold on until you can't

983
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: and then that's it. That's it. All they have to

984
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: do is just wait you out until you're done, and

985
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 1: then they go, and then the whole shebang collapse. Thirty

986
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: two years old. It's not the end of the world

987
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: for Mike Malot, but this was I thought his real

988
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: chance to have a real breakout moment was this card.

989
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: It was this night, and he did not. That's a

990
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: bad one. That's a bad loss, unfortunately for him. Not irreparable.

991
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: But hometown crowd or you know, hometown country or home country,

992
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: an opponent that was Taylor made in many ways, had

993
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: a name. You were doing everything you were supposed to

994
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: and then made a super ill advised call, super ill

995
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: advised call to enter into a leg entanglement that he

996
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: could not finish and couldn't get the off balance, and dude, like,

997
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: once you're trying to off balance and here's the other

998
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: part too, which we'll tell you on like broom sweeps

999
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: or in any kind of sweep where you're taking someone

1000
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: off their feet, it's not just about I'm gonna pull

1001
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: their ankles and then push on their hips or whatever.

1002
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: The mechanism is to get them down and that sits

1003
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: them down. When when they sit down you have to

1004
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: come up. It has to be both at the same

1005
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: time and you collect an ankle. And all he ever

1006
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: did was sit Magni down and then try and still

1007
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: stay underneath. No, no, you gotta get up. You gotta

1008
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: take them down and get up at the same time.

1009
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: And you can't wait for it either. You can't like

1010
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: sit them down and go, okay, well now that he's down,

1011
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna get up. No, you gotta go. You

1012
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: gotta go. You got a fire and he didn't. And

1013
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: uh and he paid for it. He paid for it,

1014
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: big wow. Unbelievable the Chris Chris, excuse me, I didn't

1015
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 1: not see this fight because I had some technical issues

1016
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: had to work on. Chris Curtis defeats Mark Andre Barriovi

1017
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: a split decision too twenty sevens for Chris one twenty

1018
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: nine to twenty eight for Bario. My understandings, this fight

1019
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: was pretty close, but in the end Chris was a

1020
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: deserved winner. I don't have a lot to say about

1021
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: this one because I had missed most of it to

1022
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: deal with some other issues, Which takes us now to

1023
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: Movsar ev Looev or how did they say it, moves

1024
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: are eve Loyev, eve Loev eve Loev. I'm just gonna

1025
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: call him. Mosar defeats Arnold Allen twenty nine to twenty

1026
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: eight across the board. So you knew going into this

1027
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: one this was going to be largely or at least

1028
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: one of the very key battles was going to be

1029
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: the takedown. So let's look at some of these numbers

1030
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: and some of the notes I have on this takedown. Here,

1031
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: if we can the takedowns I should say in this fight,

1032
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: he gets credited Movsar with five takedowns out of seventeen attempts.

1033
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: Jesus is just twenty nine percent conversion rate, only three

1034
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: minutes and thirty one seconds of control time which went

1035
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: one thirty one round one, fifty nine seconds, round two,

1036
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: one oh one, round three. So the numbers were strike

1037
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: thing were really close twelve to thirteen, round one, eighteen

1038
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: to twenty one, round two, whether it was that there

1039
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: are two takedowns in each of those rounds, so you're like, Okay,

1040
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: we don't know exactly how that first round is going.

1041
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: When we look at my notes here from that fight,

1042
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: you might be able to make a claim that Allen

1043
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: won round one and round three already, but I understand

1044
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: why most are one rounds one in rounds two. I

1045
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: don't think he won round three no matter what. So

1046
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: hence the twenty nine twenty eight. I thought Allen's footwork

1047
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: was really good in terms of keeping him light and

1048
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: turning at angles. His down blocking was, for the most part,

1049
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: pretty excellent. His first order takedown defense was good, not

1050
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: so much his second. But then his resistance to getting

1051
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: up and never relenting to the position I thought was excellent.

1052
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: But I thought there were two major things that really

1053
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: tripped him up in this fight. One, he went for

1054
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: a lot of body work, which I do think is

1055
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: helpful and relevant, but it does not score to me

1056
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: as easily for the judges as something where the impact

1057
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: is more demonstrative aka getting punched in the head and

1058
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: then the head flops back. It's demonstrative the audience, excuse me,

1059
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: the judges can see this. It looks like something whereas

1060
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: getting hit in the gut, the guys might be having

1061
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: the best poker face that you'd never seen in your life.

1062
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: You don't even know that they're hurt at all, and

1063
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: they can be screaming inside with pain, but there's no

1064
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: real public account of it. I think over time that

1065
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: this has cost a lot of guys who've been invested

1066
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: in body work a lot. I don't think that necessarily

1067
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: did him a favor, although I did think that his

1068
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: down blocking was good, but as Dominic Cruz noticed, it

1069
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: kind of took away from his jab right because you

1070
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: have to hang it to down block. You can't have

1071
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: it up here to go. But really, what the true

1072
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: story of the fight is is round three. And in

1073
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: round three there is a moment where Alan has they're

1074
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: both technically standing, although the question is about whether one

1075
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: was down, but Alan has control of Mosar on top

1076
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: and is firing knees. He fires I think about three

1077
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: or four of them before referee Mark Goddard intervenes to

1078
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: call the content or to halt the contest because he

1079
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 1: believes that the knees were illegal. Remember at the top

1080
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: of the broadcast, I told you that Ontario basically uses

1081
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: New Jersey's rules from two thousand and three, So what

1082
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: would that mean. What that would mean is if one

1083
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: hand is just touching the mat, you're down. Okay, it

1084
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be just fingertick. It doesn't have to

1085
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: be full hand. It could be fingertips, it doesn't have

1086
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: to be fully weight bearing. It just means you have

1087
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: to have contact. So what he was doing is from

1088
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: that front headlock, he was, like you saw it with

1089
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: Giyguard Musac and Chris Wideman picking him up a little

1090
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: bit as he's throwing so that the knee is hitting

1091
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: him when his hand is literally like pulled off the

1092
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: mat to make the sh legal because if your knee

1093
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: is down, it doesn't matter. If your hands are down,

1094
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: you're down. But his knee was not down. They were

1095
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: bent over at the waist. The only thing that was

1096
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: touching the ground were the soles of their feet and

1097
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: then Movsar's hand. So if you're pulling him up and

1098
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: then firing the knee, they should be legal, and it

1099
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: clearly won him the round, right even though what happened

1100
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: happened so Mark Gotter does not take a point, but

1101
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: he gives Arnold Allen a stern warning and then they resume.

1102
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: So Alan still wins the round. But this was a

1103
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: point where he was like landing damaging shots on Mozar

1104
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: ev looev and it looked like or evloy if however

1105
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: you're supposed to say it, And it looked like not

1106
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: that a finish was imminent, but that this was the

1107
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: kind of thing that if it went just a little

1108
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: bit longer, could have resulted in something really bad for Mozar,

1109
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: could potentially even a stoppage. Again, we weren't close enough

1110
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: to really say that, but sure enough, the most damaging

1111
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: best work that Alan had in the fight was ultimately

1112
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: artificially halted and then stopped by virtue of this rule

1113
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: and the way in which it's interpreted. I have tried

1114
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: to make the case to folks that the people who

1115
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: might run one Championship, they seem like not trustworthy people

1116
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: when they open their mouths, but the product that they

1117
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: put out, the one championship product, is actually quite good.

1118
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: And in fact, I would argue that One's rules to

1119
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: me make a lot more sense than any version of

1120
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: the unified rule, because here is the reality about this.

1121
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: Is it the fingertips, is it the full hand? Is

1122
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: it one hand and a knee? Is it two hands?

1123
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 1: Is it weight bearing? Is it not? None of those

1124
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: rules ever seemed to solve the problem. At its core.

1125
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: You you have to have rules that referees can enforce

1126
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: in real time. And I know a lot of people

1127
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: are going to look at Mark Goddard here and say, oh,

1128
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 1: he made a bad call. Well, he definitely didn't make

1129
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: with the ability of hindsight, he definitely did not make

1130
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: the correct call. But watching in real time, that is

1131
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: very difficult to get right. You're not the homeplate umpire,

1132
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: and you can see the runner running rounding third and

1133
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: he's going to come in for a home plate collision,

1134
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: and so you can focus all of your attention on

1135
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: that one moment, and you've got a few seconds to

1136
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: get ready. It just happens out of nowhere, and then

1137
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: it happens a bunch of multiple times. It's very very

1138
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: difficult to adjudicate, especially a jurisdiction to jurisdiction which might

1139
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: have weight bearing, fingertips, all that whole shit, one hand,

1140
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: two hand, whatever, It's very difficult to adjudicate that in

1141
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: real time, even for an experienced pro referee like Mark Goddard.

1142
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: Mark Goddard is not a bad referee. That doesn't mean

1143
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: I think he made a great but I don't think

1144
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: that the preponderance of evidence shows that he is a

1145
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: bad referee. What it shows is that the sport needs

1146
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: rules that the public can relatively easily understand that are

1147
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: not a huge trade off for safety, and that can

1148
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: be enforced in real time. I would humbly submit to you, folks,

1149
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: there are better ways to enforce safety and what kinds

1150
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: of circumstances where niece can be our heads can be

1151
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: need than the way in which we do it. I

1152
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: would argue to you that niee of the head of

1153
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: the body should be or niae to the head of

1154
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: a grounded opponent should only be illegal when they're back,

1155
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: or when when their chest is facing the ceiling, when

1156
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: their back is touching the canvas, but such that they

1157
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: are on their knees. To me, it should be fair game.

1158
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: That's a better rule, especially if everyone knows to expect.

1159
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean everyone always will, but the data that

1160
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: we have from one championship, in evaluating how many bouts

1161
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: were ultimately concluded because this is an extra way in

1162
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: which opponents can be hit in one that they can't

1163
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: be hit, for example, in anyone using the unified rules.

1164
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: It's a very very small amount, and it's only like

1165
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: some I think, like some of the heavier weight classes.

1166
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: It's not hardly at all what you think. Eric mcgracken

1167
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: from Combat Sports Law has some of the numbers on this.

1168
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: It's actually quite small. But in the relevant cases where

1169
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: it could be very important, you at least have that option,

1170
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: and everyone's got clarity no matter what. You can only

1171
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: be needed if you're on your back. Other than that

1172
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: fuck off, and you might be asking, well, why can't

1173
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: you be need on your back? Your head has nowhere

1174
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: to flex, Your neck can move right, you can move

1175
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: it all around. If you get hit in the head,

1176
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: it has the ability to flex. If your back is

1177
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: on the canvas, it does not have that, and so

1178
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: I think it should be outlawed and circumstances like that.

1179
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: But if you're on your hands and knees, if you're

1180
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: on your base, it to me is completely fair game.

1181
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: There's other ways that usually can be hit, like there's

1182
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: people are into leglock situations. I think you should be

1183
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: able to hit the other person in the face. If so,

1184
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: if both are seated, then there could be a thing.

1185
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: But I just don't want it. If one is not

1186
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: seated and then one or one is down and one

1187
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: isn't want to see that one, is it, that's the

1188
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: asymetry that creates a problem. Certainly we can all agree

1189
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: in the situation of someone trying to wrestle and then

1190
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: failing to do so because someone else stopped him, you

1191
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: should be threatened by knees. It should force action, It

1192
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: should force scrambles. Not so guys put their hands on

1193
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: the mat and then expect the rules to save them.

1194
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: The rules should not save them. Their own defense is

1195
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: its own reward. Your defense should save you, not this

1196
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: shitty ass rule that doesn't do anybody any good at

1197
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: any point. That's what I believe. So Alan comes up

1198
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: with the l I thought that mostar looked I thought

1199
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: both guys looked fantastic. You knew that this was going

1200
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: to be a very very difficult fight. I will tell

1201
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: you that, like I don't know where he is in

1202
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: the rankings, old movie, Where are they? Where is he

1203
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: in the rankings? This is before Obviously this has been

1204
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: updated Allen was sitting at four, Mosar are sitting at nine.

1205
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: He might jump into the top five. Il t Toporia

1206
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: is already sitting at five. Who's gonna get a title shot? Dude?

1207
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: Mozart might be next. I mean, I guess if Ilia wins,

1208
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a rematch. If Bulk wins, does he

1209
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: go to one fifty five? I guess we don't know.

1210
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see Max is gonna fight just In

1211
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: Gaitchee next. So Mosar might have gotten himself a number

1212
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: one contenders fight out of this. We shall see. He

1213
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 1: might have one more in front of him, potentially two.

1214
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: I doubt that, but at least one more maybe. But

1215
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 1: he's right up there. This is going to be a big,

1216
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: big win for him. And again it's not like Arnold

1217
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: Allen looked bad. You have to if you have a

1218
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: rule where good referees have a very difficult time getting

1219
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: it right, your rule doesn't work. The rules that our

1220
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: best are ones that can be easily in for are

1221
01:01:54,640 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: we get relatively easily enforced, easily understood. Everything works seamlessly,

1222
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: or pretty close to it. This does nothing but create problems.

1223
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't simplify anything. And all the addendum ones again,

1224
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: hand figertips, fucking weight bearing two one whatever. None of

1225
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: those things make a difference either. All of them are

1226
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: shit rules. None of them make it better. They're all bad.

1227
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: So I think we just need a much more clarifying

1228
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: way to do this, and we don't have that. All right,

1229
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at some of your tweets and

1230
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: see what you guys have to say. Jesus, people are

1231
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: bitter at each other. All right, let's see what we got.

1232
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: What happened to Canada. Canada used to produce some of

1233
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: mm's top contenders, GSP, Haminic LUASO kang Kote. Now I'm

1234
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: struggling to think of anyone that is even sniffing a

1235
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: major title other than OAM and he just retired flashing

1236
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: the pan or part of the cycle. I definitely think

1237
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: part of the cycle. It's still big there. I think

1238
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: the market has been suffering from some of the rules

1239
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: that various commissions have used. I don't think the pandemic

1240
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: helped the retirement of Saint Pierre. There was a lot

1241
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: of factors where it kind of dampened the scene. But

1242
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: there's still is overall, with the amount of teams and

1243
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: the amount of talent and the amount of resources. There's

1244
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: still a lot of fighters coming out of there, and

1245
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: also on the boxing side too, right, we just had

1246
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: I know he's from Native Chechnya, but he's really made

1247
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: Montreal his home for quite some time. Archer or better

1248
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: beev granted, different sport, but nevertheless Canada and Canadian based

1249
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: athletes being able to do something on a world class level.

1250
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: There's no good reason why they couldn't. But I also

1251
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: think the other part is to the rest of the

1252
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: world has caught up. The rest of the world is

1253
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: caught a big time. There's like a lot of other

1254
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: hotspots that have had dramatic growth. France, I think is

1255
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: poised to have dramatic growth. Australia has had dramatic growth.

1256
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: When when Canada was hot under GSP, who did Australia

1257
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 1: have Elvis Sinasek. You know who was the hippo what

1258
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: was his name? The hippo the MMA fighter? What the

1259
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: fuck was his name? The hippo MMA fighter? When he

1260
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: was like he was what was his name? Anthony Paroche,

1261
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Parosh you know what I mean, Like, that's who

1262
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: you had. So it's part of a cycle. There's no

1263
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: good reason why it couldn't be the other way, But

1264
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like the various factors aforementioned have kind

1265
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: of dampened the enthusiasm. But yeah, the expansion of it

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Speaker 1: more globally in the other markets has displaced them to

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Speaker 1: a significant degree. How much better Kendrick has get, I

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Speaker 1: think a little bit better for sure. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's at his peak. There's a lot of things he

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Speaker 1: can clean up, there's a lot of things he can add,

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Speaker 1: but as you can see, he's a bull. Why did

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Speaker 1: Sean abandon the teep kick part of the pressure? I

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Speaker 1: think I don't think he felt like maybe it was

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Speaker 1: working or he wanted to just he preferred the range

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Speaker 1: they were fighting at because he thought he could make

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Speaker 1: better contact that way. I'm not sure. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: most are beat Topouria. I don't think so, not personally.

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Speaker 1: How does middleweight play out? Now You've got Izzy Strickland

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Speaker 1: DDP at the top. Yeah, I'm gonna say Isy DDP

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01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: and then Strickly. This person says Strickland versus Whittaker Coasta, Ooh,

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Speaker 1: that'd be a ton of fun. That'd be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. And again you've kind of got homsat out

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Speaker 1: there somewhere playing this whole equation as well. How do

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01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: we feel about Dupless's stand up at this point? I

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01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: can't get over how basic it appears. It feels like

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01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: Iz he should handle him easily. Not so easily, dude.

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Speaker 1: The takedowns especially too. It's mechanically weird, it's tactically good enough.

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Speaker 1: You know, how quick does Dana look to get the

1289
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: belt off of Pennington? And how does Valentina do it? Well,

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01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: she's got business with Grosso first, you know. But as

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01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: soon as that's over, because either you're gonna be Champ

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Speaker 1: Champ or are you gonna go for it? You can

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01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: just leave and then go one five. Why do prelims

1294
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:04,959
Speaker 1: end up being more exciting than the main cards because

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01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: a couple of them were squash matches. That Jazz Divisius

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01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: fight was against Katchawea was a fucking waste of everyone's time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, good for Jazz Divisius. She looked great, right, amazing, dude.

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Speaker 1: That fight ended up being the biggest differential in terms

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Speaker 1: of strikes. She was like three twenty three to like

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01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: thirty three or something. If you're getting your ass kicked

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01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: two back to back ten eight rounds. I think one

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01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: of them was ten seven. Not only should the fight

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01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: have been stopped, that fight shouldn't have been made to

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01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: begin with. Plus remember catchwere I missedweight, so it ended

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01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: up being a bansamweight fight on top of it, Dude,

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01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: ketchwea has caught two of the biggest l's not that

1307
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: not merely in that division's history, but in women's MMA history,

1308
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: like an astonishing amount, right, astonishing? Uh Okay. I know

1309
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: everyone is pushing for IZZYDDP, but considering this fight was

1310
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: so close to this bolit decision, should they like to

1311
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: run this back? No, you could run it back if

1312
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: it felt more controversial. It feels like, yeah, either guy

1313
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: could have won, But is there really like a DDP

1314
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: raw or Seawan was robbed? I don't think Sean was robbed, right,

1315
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: It just felt like, eh, as I mentioned, one guy

1316
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: was just doing a little bit more. Do you think

1317
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: Adam Wait could spark women's inm MA in the UFC,

1318
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,959
Speaker 1: That's that's where they're gonna scale. They're not gonna scale

1319
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: one forty five and up ninety times soon, They're gonna

1320
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: scale down. You got You've got Japanese talent that can

1321
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: fill those ranks. You've got American talent that can fill

1322
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: those ranks. And Victor already has a one to five division.

1323
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna scale that direction should there be a rematch.

1324
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Speaker 1: No can DDP recover in time for three hundred. I

1325
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: have no clue how bad does a focused, eazy piece

1326
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Speaker 1: DDP up. You guys know, I'm like pretty high on

1327
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: Izzy and even I think people are really underestimating what

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01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: that dude offers. Tough as nails, du dual threat in

1329
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: terms of ground and standing and the mixing of the two,

1330
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: by the way, a consistent ground threat. He so he

1331
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: went into this fight averaging two point seven to two

1332
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: takedowns per fifteen minutes. What is Drickis's number? Now, let's see,

1333
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: So it's two point seven to two heading into the fight,

1334
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: and now his takedowns per fifteen minutes stayed the same

1335
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Speaker 1: two point seven to two, still fucking high. Nearly three

1336
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: per fifteen minutes, nearly nearly one round. That's a lot, dude,

1337
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: that's a lot to deal with a guy like that,

1338
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: it's a lot. I think people are underestimating that a

1339
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: little bit. What about thoughts on allowing champions to walk

1340
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: out with their belts or a celebrity guest, similar to boxing.

1341
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. My only request that they don't

1342
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: do is the one thing I hate in boxing is

1343
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 1: they'll have like some rapper come out with him and

1344
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: then they just lip sync, like obviously lip sync, and

1345
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: it's like the worst shit on earth. I hate that.

1346
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: So as long as you're not doing that, I'm cool.

1347
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: Someone says I had strickings winning round one, two and five. Yeah,

1348
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that one rounds one, three and five.

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01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe is he versus DDP three hundred possible? Yes?

1350
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: So is this congratt City be for being the first

1351
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: real African champion? Okay? Can we please stop that? I mean,

1352
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: just focus on the way please. Do you think Sean

1353
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: will reach his title shot again in any point of

1354
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: his career? Yes, as indicated. Do you think Arnold Allen won?

1355
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he won, but if I were him,

1356
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: I'd want that fight overturned. Does rond De Rawsi beat

1357
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Speaker 1: both of those girls? Yeah? Dude, not only do I

1358
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: think chef Chenko has a chance to win. If I'm

1359
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Speaker 1: Ronda Rawsi, I'm like, do you like your chances you might,

1360
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: you just might, you know, will we ever have five judges? No?

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Speaker 1: Strickland landed more and the takedowns were worthless? How does

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Speaker 1: this not go to strickland He numerically landed more. That's true,

1363
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: the takedowns are not quite worthless, although in many cases

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Speaker 1: I grant they didn't do a whole lot. I still

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Speaker 1: think that the general nature of what he was landing

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Speaker 1: was more impactful the body kicks. But remember, Sean only

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Speaker 1: landed punches basically to the head, right ninety percent targeting

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01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: of all strikes. He didn't land any kicks to the head,

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Speaker 1: and I recall I don't even know if he threw

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Speaker 1: any kicks to the head, So that means those are

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Speaker 1: all punches, and some of those were great. A lot

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Speaker 1: of those didn't mean much at all, or you know,

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01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: barely landed or partially landed. And I think a bodykick

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: lands with significant more authority. I count that much more.

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Speaker 1: As an example, do we think the UFC wanted Sean

1376
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: stricklet out as champ due to his excessive views on

1377
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: strong topics? I mean, who the fuck knows? Who the

1378
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: fuck knows? Again, this person says Sean needs one more

1379
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: offensive weapon. Agreed, there's a little bit of fine tuning

1380
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: that has to go into it, doesn't. Is he destroyed DP?

1381
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: He certainly could. I think people assuming that that's what's

1382
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: going to happen, are is he has the propensity like again,

1383
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: that one's either gonna be easy by knockout or stoppage

1384
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: or DDP by stoppage. I would be shocked if a

1385
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Speaker 1: fight like that went to the cards. I'll put it

1386
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: to you that way, much more combustible in that sense.

1387
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Speaker 1: Strickland was robbed. No, definitely was not robbed. Why is

1388
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: there not more talk about women's bands a weight being binded,

1389
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: being thrown in the trash when it's widely accepted knowledge

1390
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: that if Sahudo beat DJ Men's flyweight was cooked. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the fuck that means.

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Speaker 1: It's three in the morning. All right, Thank you guys

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