WEBVTT - NEMS & Ron Browz | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.080 What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:05.240 right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeart 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.280 Radio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:19.119 guys over at Drink Champs. You should know about you 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:30.360 shouldn't know. This is how we started this one off. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.800 You already know what it is rock Solid podcast. We hear, 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:38.720 we hear, yours truly am Greasy in the building at 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.840 the Vault, Yo. This is this is a special one man. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.760 We got my guy in the building, you know him, 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:49.000 Ron Browns. They call him eat the boy in the building. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.640 You know what I mean. We got my bro from 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:56.200 Brooklyn Nim's in the building. Boom your fucking head off. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.280 This is why this is special because now I get 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.319 that dude. The the setup. It's the setup, bro, Bro 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:06.080 and Ron don't even know Dad. Start nigga. Make a 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:11.840 call my nigga, Yo, get cool with him, making the 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.080 album with him, Bring them to the park and we're 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:20.440 gonna knock him out. And we're here. What's up my guys, 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:26.560 just seeing you? My brother love man Yo. Me and 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.840 this brother right here been in the studio countless fucking 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:35.679 days putting major working and we just never made nothing happen. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.319 Many like they violated me in baseline. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:43.600 One night, man Beanie Beans, I had a thirty clip 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:44.440 of beats. 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.680 Beans was just like next one, next. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.680 One, yo, you that's what he was on his That 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.640 was mac Mitons. That wasn't Beanie Siegel. There he was 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:59.840 mac Minton's there skipping the mad beatsy. I'm like, you 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.120 can one joint and let nothing play, just going to 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:04.040 the next just. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:09.200 Before or after ether before oh before. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.600 Yeah, after eating he still was coming through. We still 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:16.520 was showing him, I know, but he never you know what, No, no, 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.160 he just made he just made the beat. But then 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.800 he was running around Eat the Boy. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.200 People don't know that was me saying that was just 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.359 you know, growing up in Harlem, I never thought, I, 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.720 you know, make it right beat for nodes. So when 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.000 that happened, you know my dudes in the hood that 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:36.720 the name actually came from my man. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.600 He said, Yo, if you have a kid, you're gonna 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:39.519 have a little eat the boy. 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.560 So that's when I just kind of threw it at 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:46.959 a dope ring bid. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:55.160 God bless. But you know your head boys take him 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.200 back to the beginning to see I because me, I 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.560 know I for one day out the year East Sister, 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:05.399 we get flat. We go by the Himalaya smoke mad. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.480 We they here come to Coneyllity. Niggas want to fight 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:13.160 since back to the train station shootouts and shit. So 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.400 I want to hear from your perspective back then, what 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.040 was it like coming to Cone Island. 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:23.080 I'm from kyam my whole life and that literally is 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.040 like what we took pride on is when everybody came 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.880 during the summer and tried to have a good time. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:34.119 We never let the outsiders past Stillwell Avenue because from 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.560 a O g My Man Dell song he started he 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.080 was he had Don Devon magazine. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.640 He's from Coyak. He was like yo, that started way 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.360 before you were. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.280 It was major walls, Like yo, bro, no bullshit. Every 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.840 year be fifty deep Brooklyn niggas you get deep, we 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.720 or me Hoyt skimmer Horn niggas get deep. We go 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.720 there falling, chilling, Like you said, they have a good 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:02.840 time chilling. Didn't for the night over. It's like, yo, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:08.960 he just happened on Easter. Everybody stuff like yo. It's 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.240 like yo, we just was chilling. Why we never get 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.760 But then when it was time to get Grammy in 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.720 the winter. We had called a coney allity nigga come 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.919 through for us, you know what I'm saying. So it 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.600 was weird, like for us, like I never hung out there, 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.480 but I have many many people's out there heard up 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.600 ship crazy man. So how did the link up with 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:30.640 y'all happen? Man? 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.760 He sent me a beat. I was like, yo, just 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.159 get on, you know I want it was. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.120 He was rapping on it, and I was like, he 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.240 can fucking rap like we know him from the you know, 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:43.799 Pop Champagne. 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.080 It's rapping, but it ain't like rapping rapping, you know what. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:54.200 I'm saying, Like like happy rapping man was giving. 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:57.480 So when he sent me the joint, he's. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.080 Rapping, rapping like he's fucking like he's the fourth member 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:01.640 of the Locks. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:08.719 You go from designer, it always was Pop Champagne was 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.080 the commercial version. It was that era too. Yeah, it 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.159 was that error man, like you did your thing, but 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.520 a rad money. Let's talk shit, y'all niggas just getting 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.120 too much money. Where niggas say, got a rad money? 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.680 What was the sample even saying? You know what? It 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.240 wasn't a simple you know what he said? 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:25.800 Tell him it was nothing. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.160 It was no words, but just you know, being in 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.440 Harlem going in the e rap store listening to the music. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.000 When I got auto to him, I was like, Yo, 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.080 this does sound like sounds like I'm speaking Arabic and 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:40.920 I just made the hook. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.080 I tucked at pause because I ain't. I ain't think. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.200 I thought people was gonna think I'm a little bugged out. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.880 And then after pop champagne Buster called me like, yo, 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.840 I need I need something crazy and I sent him 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:53.360 that and he was like, Yo, that's my single. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.440 I don't know what you're saying. I don't care. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.760 I don't get fuck what you're saying, but that's my single. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.800 And he had the whole marketing roll out for that 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:05.400 joint them ships went off. My g like they gave 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.840 you a bad rap man. You know the internet today, this. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.520 Is what's fucked up about the Internet because they try 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.800 to put ship together and be like this is what 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.920 this happened for. Because think about it, that all those 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.080 songs was coming out. You wasn't the only one at 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:23.560 that time doing auto tune. The whole industry, bro it was. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.880 It was bad, like the whole industry was auto toned. 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.919 So Jay made that for auto tune at that time, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:37.080 for the era, not specific Yeah, they they made it 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.200 like he did it specifically for that was the cause 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:44.400 I was getting. I'm not gonna say it wasn't like 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:49.200 my nigga. I'm not gonna say it wasn't for You're 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.520 not gonna say it was for all of y'all. But 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:55.520 it's not singlearly to you because you wasn't like a 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.080 threat to the homie. For him to want to just 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.720 like stop your bag. It was just like he's got 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:05.120 my back, thought the back, don't you know why? While 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:09.240 because he felt like everybody, I believe niggas felt like 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.120 at that time anybody was just making records. Bro, you 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.440 had no talent. All you had to do was put 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.400 on head and even nearly somewhere pissed the fuck off 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.120 at your niggas. Then now the new rappers perfoor him 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.880 with the words them niggas is sick. They ready to 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.520 clip some Yeah, they was gonna. Uh. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:32.680 When Jay dropped it flushed out to Flex and God 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.880 bless mister C was like, Yo, Rong, this. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:41.480 Is for you. No fifty calls, Yo, Jay talk about 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.200 you right now with the radio him like Wow, this 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:45.720 is crazy. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.960 So him like hearing fifty people calling and flex and 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.760 mister C. I was like, oh, maybe this was this shot. 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.320 And then I saw you know vonn as my man. 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:03.360 Yeah cool, Like Yo, that ain't like that wasn't for you, man. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.360 I was like, oh man, that's what everybody. 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.040 That's for everybody though, So it is for you, but 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.119 it was for everybody. It's like it, but it wasn't 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:19.560 like you guys use a casualty of walk my god, man, 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:24.120 like Yo, New York, fucking nicks my g bing bong 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:28.400 all this flash ship out yo. Then the battle rap 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.440 scene first, let's start there, the battle rap scene, because 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.640 that's what got you know in the city. You know 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.319 what I mean. That's to watch you moving on the 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:40.600 U r L battle Rap Star fight Club that shoutouts 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.360 with you. I mean, because I respect the battle rap. 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.240 That's where it started from. We start, especially in New York. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.560 I can't speak for any other city, but in New York, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.160 when you first put that pin in the paper, it's 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:59.000 somebody next door to you, like you wo straight up, 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.400 so you grow up? What was that like for you 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:02.000 coming up? 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.319 I just knew that that was a way to get 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:07.080 my name known. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:08.000 You know what I'm saying. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.319 During that time, that's before the internet, you know what 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:10.760 I'm saying. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:14.040 I was like in New York City, it was like 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.520 they would just have battles all the time, like not 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:17.360 even fight club. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.640 It was just like, Yo, Wetlands battle tonight. You got 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.960 a battle fucking eight people tonight. And you know. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:25.480 What I'm saying. 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.200 But when you do that, that's how you really got 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.760 your name known. So I would just take my songs 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.040 from versus that I was. 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.000 Doing and just use them. 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.560 But I always rhymed aggressively, you know what I'm saying, 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.760 So it was easy for me. And uh, and then 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:48.520 the fight club came. I beat one guy Halls. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.000 And then I just kept going and winning. 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.760 I didn't know it was like gonna be a thing 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.840 like a league or a battle thing whatever. And I 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.600 just kept winning and I I had like twenty wins 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.240 and I was like, damn, what the fuck was this? 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.560 And it was just that's really the first no variety 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.480 that I had. That ship was the hottest ship in 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.440 the city or in the game at that time because 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.800 it was industry only. I was beating man rappers and 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:09.120 all types of ship. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:10.880 You know what I'm saying. So that was good. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.640 But right when I got that notoriety, I went, I 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:14.520 got locked up. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.680 And then it came out on MTV and all of 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.600 that ship. But it was good, kept my buzz going. 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.559 But then you got that Knicks play my nigga. That's major. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:25.080 That was all fucking luck. That was just the universe. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:30.160 That's crazy in bed style. I was a garbage man 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:30.720 for like eight. 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:34.000 Years, and you should pay good. All my niggas who 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:42.000 come home from uptob with a felony, Yeah they pay good. Yeah, damn, 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:47.440 that's what's up man, Damn, that's dope. Fucking Where you 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:48.480 got the name m Greasy? 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:56.520 Hey yo, that's a crazy name. Who named you that? 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.720 You? You m gree my man leaky man from MARSI 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:05.679 name you Greasy cou. 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:07.440 You know, we was. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.600 Watching What's the movie with my man Denzel with the 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.080 little kid man with the little girl. He protected her. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:17.600 Oh yeah, in creasy is she? That's why he like greasy. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.559 I'm saying, So I came from that, like you know 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.839 what I mean. He was putting in pain, you know 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.880 what I mean. That's why his name was leaky. Let 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:33.120 you go. You know you got a name from different ships. 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.240 You know how it is growing up. If your name 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.240 you was cupcake, your name was cupcakes. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.160 Matter of fact, I was thinking about that because you're 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:41.920 my man's man. 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.440 I ain't never even ask you that. I'm gonna ask 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.840 you that on this podcast. How the fuck are your brows? 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:47.680 Because your brows? 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:53.400 Yeah, Yo, this is crazy. I noticed that. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.680 Yeah at the time when it was when I started 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:58.479 making beats. 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.000 It was this is crazy. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:05.480 I never noticed that you got mixed with something some duba. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.560 There was a lot of producers I wanted to producer. 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:12.160 Name was Ron. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.640 I was like to separate, like the the names from 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.520 that was just. 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:24.400 A pause. He was a hit man New Yorkers Fun 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:28.600 out they gets some pause. He was a hit rise 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.959 down pause. That mean he's a killer, Like he was 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.280 a hit man for Puff. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:49.720 That's see why I say, yeah. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.640 Let's talk about it. I got a project coming out 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.319 I Access. They go off camera, right, this is the 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:59.439 most double album name I ever heard in my life. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.760 So I say the wrong, like, Yo, what's the name 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.079 of the album? Dropping nigga said, I fucking boom you. 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:12.480 So it's like, wow, I'm just fucking boom the nigga 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.920 said that. I'm like, Yo, that's kind of dope. Then 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.440 he said, Yo, it's a it's a double entendre for 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:22.200 boom Back. He didn't even know that. He didn't know that. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:28.679 I'm gonna tell you what you in YouTube. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.319 He just didn't understand it because we was we was 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.600 like halfway through the ship and I said, Yo, were 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.040 gonna name this album, I should fucking boom you. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:37.800 Just like that. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.679 That's a statement, you know what I'm saying, because one 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.160 of the skips he got in there is the dude 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.640 saying like, oh, you hit women, I should fucking boom 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.280 your stupid ass, and so I did. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.440 He was just like he wasn't sure. Then when it 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:52.679 was like staple, he was. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.280 Like, oh, you meant like like because we're using drums 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:56.920 like boom Back. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:58.280 I was like, yeah, that true. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.200 But also when you hear it, it's gonna make you 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.440 want to boom something, right, So we bring in the 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:06.000 boom you know motherfuckers right now on that beats without 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:07.480 drums and just samples. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:08.400 Not do that. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.000 He do the whole body ship smacking your face. So 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:12.960 it's like both ways, it's gonna make. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:13.720 You want to boom something. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.000 But we're bringing that boom back to hip hop. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:21.160 Yo, rawn is my man right. But when it was drama, 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.400 he fuelled all in the meetings. It was drama with 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:31.040 dim say Higo ju a Jim Joe's ship, pain did 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:35.080 jewels what it was like the knives, It was like fair. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.400 But you in baseline, why we wait why he was 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.680 giving them them, yass? That's why beans, I think was 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:46.760 going next. You didn't give us the drama packs given us. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:47.960 It's cool, pat. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.720 Now the origin is I gave it to hip hop 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:51.320 hip hop. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:56.880 Never the ether be hip hop, hipp super A and 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.520 r Hit didn't pick ether beat. 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.560 I gave to him on a sheet. They brung it 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:03.160 to the block. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.240 Don't worry, hip hop will be on this couch. 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:09.440 Yes, I said, Yo, get his is the hole? 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.400 I think he said, yeah. It just never made it 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.640 to baseline, no way. Not probably did they probably did. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.560 I ain't gonna one thing about all the A and 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.040 rs from Rockefeller, them CDs used to make it there. 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.600 Now it was on niggas to be in that studio 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.920 to grab that, tell guru or somebody to push play 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.760 or take that, make the cuts with it. Yn't keep 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:35.560 it a real though, Like that eat to beat. 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:39.520 If you're looking for classic Ron Brown's production, that's not it. 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.680 You know what I'm saying, that's that's not the ebonic 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:43.240 the boom. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:50.040 Don't really have they got like now to be like that. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.680 It's about to have mad queens. It's hard. It's hard, 0:15:54.320 --> 0:16:19.320 I guess, like the slow flow. Yeah, yeah, how your 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.000 niggas is partners in the studio making the album our 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.280 boom niggas making heat. But then you drop the book 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.640 and he didn't even know, you know, just dropping Man, 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:36.400 It's like you finished beating all What about the evens? 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:43.400 That's what I'm about to say, because even so I 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.480 don't know about all the odds. Rather some odds dunking me. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.520 Yeah, the book is about me being around, you know, 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.160 a bunch of hustlers from uptown and fuel and the 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.000 energy to making beats. 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:59.840 So shout Kevin, shout to Jewel brother. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.280 This is beat the odds. 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.200 It's a crazy story from me from a kid. 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.400 What's crazy is with this guy? 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.960 For probably the last six months during this album, Not 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:14.080 only have I never seen this book, he never once 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:18.600 spoke about it. He never said, no, I'm doing a book, yo' yo. 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.400 It even came up in conversations. This is the first 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.399 time I've seen this on this I said, Yo, blieve 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:24.359 you got a book and. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:29.919 He's like, yo, so he's not in the book. Now 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:36.120 this is I did this interview. It just dropped. Yeah, 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.840 you're in part two. Man beat the odds, Beat the evens. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:48.760 Amazon though, that's dope, man. Any features on the project 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.200 or just y'all to going straight thugging it out. 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.320 At first, we ain't put no features, nothing, And then 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:58.520 when we gave it in the album, the lady was like, Yo, you. 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:00.800 Got any features. You guys want any features? It was like, 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:02.760 you know what, man, we can send it. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.960 I said, I said, it's a little fame for m 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:09.600 O B gave dog. You know it's Hall them on 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.879 production in Hall and we kept in real Brooklyn. 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:17.240 That's right, And that was in was in. I't even 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:17.520 see it. 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.119 I want you to get hold come out on Friday. 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:21.040 I gotta get a Hall ofm. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:22.479 I gotta get a Hall. 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:25.480 I gotta figure it out by Friday. 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:26.920 Comes on the fucking three days. 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:31.000 Yo. Chill the newest nigga from Harlem Chicken right now 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:37.160 with this that kid Fergie, you know my dog shout 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.680 to that have to remix remixed. Nice day to be 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.879 in Brooklyn, Yo. And one thing, I ain't gonna lie. 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:47.000 You shot on my dog, Pap, Pap. Don't never ever 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.520 not have a verse like you said, Pap a record 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.720 nigga like that ship right back, yo, Like nigga was 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.160 righting around her to be before I got it, like yo, 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.040 Like how you did the record so quick? Yo? 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.439 I was on some jam with Pat one year and uh, 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.280 he was saying it was the year they said he 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.119 took the mic and performed. He did sway the next 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.520 day and had a whole verse about him taking the mic, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.800 pause and h. 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:21.399 The nigga performed alphabitch backwards. I don't even know the 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:27.720 alphabets backwards, like the rapid backwards. I can't even say 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:31.360 it backwards that Like you're kidding me. Let's go back 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.920 a little bit to the beginning. Wrong. How was you 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.280 know being a producer from New York, especially in that 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:42.000 time early two thousands, everybody in their mama was producing. 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.920 You had a lot of competition. Neptunes was moving. You 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.359 had just Blade just coming up. Kanye West. You know 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:50.560 what I mean. You had baked the monster. You had 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.320 fucking rock Wilder, you know what I mean, Swiss and 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.119 then here come you. How how how tough was it 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:58.920 to get placements for you back in there? 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.639 It was crazy because you have a lot of artists 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.480 to be in the studio and they have a bunch 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:07.160 of producers sitting in the lobby. Like next you're playing joint. 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.440 So at that time, your beats had to be like knocking. 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:13.320 It was like strings. 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.359 It was string based and aggressive beats. 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.639 So I was just able to actually listen to. 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.240 All of them guys, so and learn from all of 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.040 them and kind of made up my own staff. 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:25.520 For any producers. 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:33.800 Nah, let's go jump them as a new artist, right. 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.000 I wanted to just get used some games. See, like 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:41.280 with producers, do you usually get your beats? Do they 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.239 usually send them email to you or like? Or they 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:52.920 like through their whole stash like yo yo, play the 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:57.680 whole play play the whole foul. I'm mad picky with beats. 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.200 So, and when producers to send you ship, they're gonna 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:02.919 send you ship that they think you said good. 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.200 I always tell producers, send me what you think I 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:05.760 won't like. 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.920 You know what I'm saying exactly. That's a fact that 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:16.880 a producer like, is ninety trash. I'm telling you, if 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:20.639 the producer whole you hype, I got it, it's not it. Yo. 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.359 He sent me some ship. Yeah, Yo, I'm gonna listening 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.080 to to this one jot. 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:30.280 It was ridiculous, hard hard, right, and I just you know, 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:33.560 I was just like whatever. I finally was like, Yo, 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:35.240 send me this beat. Let's try to do this before 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:37.240 the album coming. He sent me, sends me the ship. 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:39.240 I don't know what the fuck he did to it, 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.560 but it was totally changed the right. I said, Yo, homie, 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:43.720 what the fuck is this? 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:45.120 Bro? Matter of fact? 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:49.040 I got a voice note matter yo, ass because this 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.560 is unmuch friend, because I'm talking nobody like this. 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:52.760 That's not my friend. 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.879 You know, this is crazy. I'm gonna put it right 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:57.400 on them, like, look. 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:07.960 What did you do beat? Whatever beat. 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:14.000 You ruined? 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:20.720 It took last three hours trying to fix it to 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:24.240 my type of send it to me, bridging the way 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:24.600 it was. 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:28.679 You just made a fire beat trash. 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:36.840 You just made a fire beats. That's so crazy, cause 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:40.080