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Speaker 2: see John Cena.

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Speaker 3: But this man doesn't even need to see the hoop

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Speaker 3: to make the shot with his strong ass jumper.

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Speaker 2: That's a walking coat right there, man, Good mornings. Were

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Nodungks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Monday,

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Speaker 2: December thirtieth, twenty twenty four. I'm Jayski's back in the

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Speaker 2: Classic Factory and alongside me, as always.

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Speaker 1: Test Melists podcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 2: Next to him, it's the beard one, a top shot boy,

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Speaker 2: Trey Kirby. Hey oh, and over Yonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 2: Super producer filling in for JD. It's estual kid, I

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Speaker 2: I'll do it. What's up, esh. Good to see everyone

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Speaker 2: back from the holidays. Good times. Everybody get what they

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Speaker 2: wanted for Christmas?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Good stuff?

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Speaker 3: Yeah man, I asked for a giant sweater, got it

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Speaker 3: came through.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask for new headphones because mine are crapping

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Speaker 2: out on me. Yeah yeah, so hey, JD. Bring me

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Speaker 2: back to the other years. We got lots to talk about.

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Speaker 2: We got to talk about the Kings, firing head coach

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Speaker 2: Mike Brown. We got some winners of the NBA weekend.

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Speaker 2: Got a few year end questions seeing as this is

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Speaker 2: our final show at twenty twenty four, as we get

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Speaker 2: set for twenty twenty five. But first I turn to

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Speaker 2: the southern lawyer.

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Speaker 3: We got all sales a tray.

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Speaker 2: Oh there is good to have you good, sir?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Lakers have agreed to a trade, sending

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Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell, Maxwell Lewis, and three second round picks to

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Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Nets for Dorian Finney Smith and Shake Milton.

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Speaker 2: This one going down on the weekend, so the Lakers

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Speaker 2: keep peace. Being DFS he comes to them as a

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Speaker 2: three and D guy, and obviously D'Angel Russell going back

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Speaker 2: to Brooklyn. This guy's had a very weird career, playing

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Speaker 2: twice with the Lakers and now twice for the Brooklyn Nets.

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Speaker 2: But what do you think. Let's talk about this and

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Speaker 2: give us some trade grades.

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Speaker 1: I guess well, the Lakers win this thing because they

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Speaker 1: get Dorian Fitty Smith. Everybody wants a Dorian Phinney Smith

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Speaker 1: for Christmas or for whenever. Dorian Fitty Smith is just

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Speaker 1: a very good basketball player to have on your team.

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Speaker 1: He would work on every single basketball team. And that's

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Speaker 1: why this is only the second time he's been traded

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Speaker 1: in his career. He started for the Dallas Mavericks as

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Speaker 1: an ungroup drafted guy, played there for six and a

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Speaker 1: to play extremely hard on the defensive end and shoot

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Speaker 1: the three ball. Of course, but they had to go

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Speaker 1: get Kyrie Irvings, so they had to put him into trade,

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Speaker 1: and Brooklyn wanted him, but then they turned bad and

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Speaker 1: now they got to go a totally different direction and

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Speaker 1: get super bad. So they move on. But this guy

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Speaker 1: guards everybody. The Lakers need somebody they've been lacking without

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Speaker 1: Jared Vanderbilt. He just don't have a perimeter guy to

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Speaker 1: He's the only guy to guard guards forwards and centers

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Speaker 1: at least fifteen times. That's a stat that you don't

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Speaker 1: hear too often, but at least fifteen times for each

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Speaker 1: we'll guard anybody according to second spectrum, and they'll hit shots.

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Speaker 1: He also becomes the Lakers' best high volume three point shooter.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's true. There's shades of Contavious Caldwell Pope

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Speaker 1: freaking title here. They're not as good as they are

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Speaker 1: Cobble Pope hit all those threes, the most threes in

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Speaker 1: the playoff run in twenty twenty. This guy's that. This

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Speaker 1: guy's shooting forty three and a half percent from three

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Speaker 1: point lane. I couldn't believe that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, very high on five point four attempts per game,

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Speaker 2: and he's been always a pretty damn good three point shooter.

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Speaker 2: Then there was a lull, but this is a career

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Speaker 3: I'm not as high as because this is like an

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Speaker 3: improved Jared Vanderbilt, the perfect kind of trade for Task,

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Speaker 3: and it also let's Gabe Vincent get a little bit

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Speaker 3: more shine on the Lakers as well, So a double

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Speaker 3: win for Mellis, But I think this is good for

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Speaker 3: the Lakers. They definitely improved, and they did it for

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Speaker 3: pretty cheap. I don't necessarily know that Dorian Finney Smith

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Speaker 3: good playmaker, putting back to back double digit assist games

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Speaker 3: don't know. I think the Lakers did good here to

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Speaker 3: only give up three second round picks, which you know,

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Speaker 3: good get for the net. So I think this definitely

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Speaker 3: helps the Lakers. They've got nobody else to handle the

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Speaker 3: ball outside of Lebron and Reeves right now, that's a

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Speaker 3: question to me. But doing this for only second round picks,

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Speaker 3: maybe get the salary together as easily, but they've got

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Speaker 3: picks first round picks that they can trade and get

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Speaker 3: a player who could actually help them really move the needle,

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Speaker 3: because I think Dorian Finney Smith is helpful, but he

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Speaker 3: doesn't really change their outlook here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Lakers, GM Ron Polinka man of his word.

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Speaker 2: I remember when he said, we're gonna wait thirty games

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Speaker 2: So it was like, what thirty one games or something

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Speaker 2: The other part of this for LA, which is nice,

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Speaker 2: in making another move. Phinney Smith makes fifteen point four

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Speaker 2: million dollars player option for next season. That'll be fascinating

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Speaker 2: to see what he does with that. You would sort

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Speaker 2: they've been trying to trade for months on end, here

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Speaker 2: pretty good haul. They still have two first round picks

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Speaker 2: and one second. The Lakers do if they want to

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Speaker 2: try and upgrade what the center position is? That maybe

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Speaker 2: where they would look to next, because Booja says the plan,

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Speaker 2: according to team sources is see what this group looks

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Speaker 2: like with Phinney Smith in the fold, and once all

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Speaker 2: their injured players are actually back Hayes Vanderbilt Christian would

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Speaker 2: I guess, and then see what they could do maybe

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Speaker 2: ahead of the trade deadline. That's sort of what boohas

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still desperate. I mean they're still desperate for

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Speaker 1: that isn't worry. As much as I love Gabe Visit,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot on Austin Reed's shoulders right now, right here,

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Speaker 1: and he had a game winner. I mean maybe that's

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Speaker 1: desperate in that side of things and the big guy spot. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Jackson Hayes might come back, sure, but this ain't Dwight

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Speaker 1: Howard and JaVale McGee winning a title. I mean this

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Speaker 1: is their weakness, that's for sure. But they just wanted

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Speaker 1: What's interesting from the NETS side, I mean they had

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Speaker 1: I know Dangel Russell is fine and all that, but

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Speaker 2: Surprised they didn't take that.

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Speaker 1: What you're getting out, Yeah, what they did. They wanted

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Speaker 1: In D'Angelo Russell's contract, he's expiring done. Contart signed through

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Speaker 1: Sean mark just wanted to have the books free, and

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Speaker 1: that's what happened. Here.

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Speaker 2: Were you shocked by again these reports? I think mark

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Speaker 2: Stein first won on that with the Grizzlies sort of

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Speaker 2: proposal there, including that top fifteen maybe top seventeen protected

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Speaker 1: I got a Michael Scatto as opposed to taking mark

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Speaker 3: That said with a top eighteen protected But honestly, like

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Speaker 3: the Grizzlies are pretty good, right, now the pick is

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Speaker 3: going to be in the mid twenties. And guess what,

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Speaker 3: the nets second round pick, which they would have had

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Speaker 3: the low thirties, like thirty three, So we're talking about

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Speaker 3: an eight spot difference. It really doesn't matter in that case,

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Speaker 3: things Conchar being signed for longer. All the Nets want

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Speaker 3: to do is be bad. They traded McHale Bridges so

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Speaker 3: that they could tank. Unfortunately, they won a bunch of

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Speaker 3: games with Dennis Shruder and start a DFS in town.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's actually been winning them games, but

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Speaker 3: Dennis Shruder certainly was. They shut both those guys out.

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Speaker 3: They're going to be one of the worst teams in

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Speaker 3: the league and maybe they can run back like a

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Speaker 3: Jordan Farmer Johann Petro sort of deal, because literally, who

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Speaker 3: are they going to sign? It doesn't matter if they

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Speaker 3: need to have some lottery luck to really turn around

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Speaker 3: the franchise in Papland.

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Speaker 1: I bet they win yesterday with Dorian Finney Smith. You

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Speaker 1: see Jordi Fernandez, Nets head coach after the game said

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Speaker 1: we just needed one more grown up to bring the

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Speaker 1: guys together and calm everybody down, right.

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Speaker 3: They needed somebody to score a basket, Yeah they will,

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Speaker 3: and Phinney Smith.

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Speaker 1: Well, they had a twenty point lead.

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Speaker 3: They scored four points in the last eight minutes. We'll

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Speaker 1: And either John cons I mean, this is just to

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Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen, Brooklyn received D'Angelo Russell the last time and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Will there be a big splashy name

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Speaker 1: The timing is painful, that's for sure. They did it

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Speaker 1: But as as the Nuggets head coach Michael Malone said,

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Speaker 3: The rest of the Western Conference got better. They won

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Speaker 3: it hasn't gone well. And I think Tass is right.

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Speaker 3: The Kings, Mike Brown in particular, has lost the locker room.

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Speaker 3: And this is why the Kings missed the playoffs for

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like, okay, like he wrote some words

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Speaker 2: against Lakers. I don't think it fixes anything, is my point.

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Speaker 1: Over our Jay Triano, who is their lead assistant, Doug

433
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: Grissy just jumps over him and takes the spot because

434
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Speaker 1: they think he'll have the locker room a little bit

435
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Speaker 1: more than Mike Brown, who I think we've got to

436
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: be clear about when he goes into press conferences definitely

437
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 1: has called those guys a ton after Rich Paul, Darren

438
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: Fox's agent, came and sat there in front row and

439
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 1: was there to talk up with the front office about

440
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Speaker 1: Darren Fox's future. And after that game, it was Mike

441
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Speaker 1: Brown saying, listen, you gotta have two feet in the circle,

442
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Speaker 1: not one foot in one foot out. I mean he

443
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Speaker 1: was talking about I think he was talking about Darren Fox,

444
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 1: and over and over he was going out Fox. So

445
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,199
Speaker 1: maybe Fox just went front office that I don't like

446
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 1: this guy. He also called out the bonus and so

447
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,640
Speaker 1: maybe it's that maybe he just extended too far when

448
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 1: it comes to postgame press conferences and that's it.

449
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Speaker 2: Well, Darren Fox doesn't feel guilty because his answer was

450
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: you know, when asked about it, I was like, well,

451
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 2: this is the NBA. It's a shrewd business. Don't worry.

452
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 2: He gets paid. Basically I'm paraphrasing here, but.

453
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Speaker 3: US players get coaches fired, all the team.

454
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Speaker 2: But it's like embarrassing for a franchise that it just

455
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 2: it's just another reason why you're like, oh, this is

456
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 2: why there's been no stability and no success for decades here,

457
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: because this is how this front office operates. It's like

458
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: they're just they're just on a whim. Just suddenly like, oh,

459
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 2: oh I guess somebody doesn't like him. Oh my god,

460
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: we're losing some games. Okay, get them out of here,

461
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 2: because suddenly we have expectations that maybe you got a

462
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: little too far over your skis as well, there's that

463
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 2: part Ziller, who's obviously a noted Kings fan. He wrote,

464
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: the thing about the Kings under run Adive is that

465
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: everyone is a mood swing away from being fired. This

466
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: is just bad management. There was no reason to fire

467
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Speaker 2: Brown right now, no matter how disappointing this season has been.

468
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 2: Went on to say, you called it dumb and impulsive,

469
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Speaker 2: which again sort of has been a characteristic of this

470
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Speaker 2: front office for a while now, and even and the

471
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Speaker 2: prior front office. It's sort of just been a trend

472
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Speaker 2: there in Sacramento. So Doug gets a go.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't even like the season wasn't bad.

474
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Speaker 1: When they're thirteen to thirteen. I mean, yes, they'd like

475
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Speaker 1: to be more than thirteen to thirteen. But it really

476
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: was that five game losing streak. Now it's six. That's long,

477
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: that's super long, and they said, hey, it's time to go,

478
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Speaker 1: and maybe yeah, who knows how hide this went and

479
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: whether it was Vivic Grandadive telling his front office that

480
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Speaker 1: we got to go, because he seemed to be mad

481
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Speaker 1: apparently at the when they're getting spanked by Tyrese Halbern

482
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Speaker 1: in this five game losing street. Coming back to Sacramento

483
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Speaker 1: after the trade and giving it to them, and he

484
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: was mad, sideline, how are you getting spanked by this team?

485
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: They got killed by that team. So that's the interesting part. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 1: to know how much Vivic wasn't Yeah.

487
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Speaker 3: I mean the reporting is that this was a Monty

488
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 3: and West call, right, but doesn't totally feel like it.

489
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Speaker 3: I'll say that though, from that perspective. From the Vivic

490
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: round Adiba perspective, it's like Monte McNair and Wes Wilcox

491
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Speaker 3: aren't going to fire themselves. And they're the ones who

492
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Speaker 3: signed some bonus to an extension instead of doing some

493
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Speaker 3: kind of a move. They're the ones that brought into

494
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Speaker 3: Rosen when everybody's like, you're bringing in this guy who

495
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: eats up all these possessions and plays slow for a

496
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Speaker 3: fast playing team. They stood pat after the forty eight

497
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: win season. It didn't make any sense. But they're not

498
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Speaker 3: gonna fire themselves. They like making millions of dollars.

499
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a sweet yeah, Yeah, you know it's kind

500
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: of gonna do. It's gotta be the coach's fault because

501
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: we've eroded the depth of this roster.

502
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Speaker 3: Did I hire him yeah? Did we give him an extension? Yeah?

503
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: But it's not our fault.

504
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then to circle back to the beginning part,

505
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Speaker 2: you're like, how this news broke and how sort of

506
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: like what the hell that's how you told him he

507
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: was fired? Is pretty damn gross. Where he gets the

508
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 2: chance to obviously coach the team in practice, there's like

509
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: tons of video of him talking to Fox, so we

510
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,239
Speaker 2: obviously had a one on one with him about what

511
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: went down at the end of the game. I'm sure

512
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Speaker 2: about his comments. I'm sure about everything with Fox and

513
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: Rich Paul and his camp. And then has like what

514
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Speaker 2: a fifteen plus media scrum, which Mike Brett loves to do,

515
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: and it's pretty damn good at it and entertaining for sure,

516
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: especially for us content creators. Like he says a lot,

517
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 2: and he'll like tell people, like he'll call people out

518
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: of course, and he'll tell and explain his schemes and

519
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: stuff like that. And then he gets on the you know,

520
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: in his car to go to the plane and then

521
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: that's when they do it. It's like, that's pretty that

522
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: is no class. Yeah, Like that's what a shitty organization does.

523
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: You don't hear that from the well run organizations now?

524
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Speaker 1: And I wanted Mike Brown to pull out the laptop

525
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: like he did at the press conference once to show

526
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: everybody that Jaden Ivy foul at the end of the

527
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: Pistons game was bull crap. I hated that. I hated

528
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Speaker 1: where that referee called it from. You can't see the

529
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Speaker 1: play through Darren Fox's body. That's impossible.

530
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Speaker 2: That should never have been put in the position for

531
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Speaker 2: them to make that crappy call, you know what I mean,

532
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Speaker 2: the way they played it because they had talked about

533
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 2: it reckless close up, yes, reckless indeed. Uh So we'll see,

534
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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens here in sacrament Man. Like the

535
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 2: bean Baby, those were really good days that felt like

536
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 2: now an eternity ago, but it was two years ago.

537
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe the Kings are just the Bulls. One playoff appearance.

538
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: You got a guard who's represented by Clutch, who makes

539
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: All Star teams, but not the greatest All Star. You

540
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: got to Marta Rose, and you got a big international

541
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Speaker 3: center who can't play defense.

542
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of similarity.

543
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Speaker 3: One playoff appearance for the Bulls.

544
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Speaker 2: You're right, you're right.

545
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 3: But their stability, man, they didn't fire their coach, right,

546
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: That's where you got.

547
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Speaker 1: Perfect eight for Mike Brown. Better than Billy.

548
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: Yes, a Western conference. That is good, of course, especially

549
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: when you compare it to the Kings coaches of yours prior.

550
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Speaker 2: Let's get to some winners of the NBA Weekend. Let's

551
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: turn a little positive here. TK. We'll just do one

552
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: round of this because I do want to do some

553
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: year end questions. You're big winner of the NBA weekend.

554
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Speaker 3: Cole Anthony, Tristan da Silva and the Orlando Magic get

555
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 3: a winner for me. Twenty one point come back against

556
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Speaker 3: the Nets, lacking Dorian Finney Smith. Nets were up by

557
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: seventeen with seven minutes left, and they scored four points

558
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: in the final seven minutes of this game, zero of

559
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 3: them on made shots. They got four free throws, two

560
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: of them were off a screen foul, and the other

561
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: two were off a loose ball foul. Literally not even

562
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: getting shot attempts because they don't have a point guard

563
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 3: right now. No Dennis Shrewder, Obviously he's been traded, but

564
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: Dennis Dennis, Tristan de Silva and Cole Anthony were sweet

565
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: for the Magic. De Silva might have won Rookie of

566
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 3: the Year last night. Ten points in the final seven minutes.

567
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 3: He was basically running the show for the Magic, who

568
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 3: have nobody out there, because Jalen Suggs went out in

569
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 3: this game as well. He's got a right wrist spraying.

570
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: Cole Anthony didn't even play in the first half of

571
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: this one, but they dusted him off because they needed

572
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 3: something to happen five a point five points to assist

573
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. Had a game winner as well,

574
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: and that was a weird play because it looked like

575
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 3: it was supposed to go to Tristan da Silva. So

576
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: he was just sprinting for like, you know, the iverson

577
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: cut He's going to catch the ball at the other wing.

578
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,479
Speaker 3: They cut it off, so he just keeps running and

579
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: he ran into whoever was defending Cole Anthony was like

580
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: a running full back screen. It looked awesome. Got an

581
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: easy layup for Cole Anthony and he got the winner there. But,

582
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: like I said, kind of a bummer for the Magic

583
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: to lose yet another player in Jalen Suggs. He's going

584
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Speaker 3: down obviously for Wagner is out right now, Magic are

585
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: four and five since he went down, Mo Wagner lost

586
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: in the meantime as well. The only good news I

587
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: suppose for the Magic is that Polo is ramping up

588
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: his rehab. Pala Boncaro might be back, they say still

589
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: though it's gonna be a couple of weeks. But I'm impressed.

590
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: The Magic are still top four in the Eastern Conference

591
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: despite all these injuries, and they're just kind of staying

592
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: afloat because they can play defense, completely shut the nets down.

593
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 3: They had nobody to make plays for him, and then

594
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: just enough scoring to pull out the win. Tristan da

595
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 3: Silva Tristan da Silva because like this guy is bringing

596
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: the ball up, They're giving it to him on the

597
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 3: elbow every time down and he was making it happen.

598
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: I know the Cavs have the best records still in

599
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: the NBA, so Kenny Atkinson would deserve a lot of love.

600
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: And then I guess maybe the Grizzlies with a really

601
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: good record. But I feel like Jamal Mosley has gotta

602
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: be like one in the front runners for Coach of

603
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: the Year just how he continues to get this team

604
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: to victories despite guy after guy after guy going down

605
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: the injury. I feel like we're one week away from

606
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: us saying goga, but Tazzi might be an All Star,

607
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: Like I swear like three good games here together in

608
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: a role and we might be saying that he was

609
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: awesome with this game, but yeah, what do you think

610
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: of the magic continuing to do it?

611
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: Goga almost got his wig taken off, hit in the head,

612
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: and that was a hard hit that he took. But

613
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: no matter the hits, this team just gets up and

614
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: keeps fighting. They are a scrappy bunch. Jalen Slucks has

615
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: gotten hurt in a couple games and have to leave games. Yeah,

616
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. So it is surprising

617
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: that four and five since Fran's been out, this team

618
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: is He's definitely given Jamal Moseley Coach of the Year

619
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: candidate for sure. And as I said Jordy Fernandez, I

620
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: think he's a little mad that this team was nine

621
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: and ten Brooklyn. That's nine and ten when they traded

622
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: Dennis Ruder. I mean, they're ready to be close to

623
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: five hundred, but then you trade everybody. Now, whoever wants

624
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: Cam Johnson is available. I mean that guy deserves a

625
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: first round pick for him. Yeah, he's a good player.

626
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: Tasks, who do you have as a winner of the

627
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: NBA Weekend.

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00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm going with the Golden State Warriors, because I think

629
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: they have their closing lineup for the rest of the season.

630
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: Forget about who they start, but they're closing with Curry,

631
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Shrewder in the back court, Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan Kaminga, and

632
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: Draymond Green as your center. I ain't the death lineup,

633
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: but it's their best five man unit and it was

634
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: pretty good. Jonathan Kaminga two really good games on the weekend.

635
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: He can come off the bench as Steve Kerr has him,

636
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: but he plays a ton thirty seven and thirty four

637
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: minutes and that produced back to back thirty four point

638
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: games for him. And you get to see an aggressive

639
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga coming off the bench because he's playing with

640
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: the second unit guys to start the game, and I

641
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: think that helps a little bit. And I think that's

642
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: part of the play with Steve Kerr. He doesn't have

643
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: to work around Steph Curry in the offense. He just

644
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: comes out and just scores and then he closes games.

645
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: And he did that pretty well against the Phoenix Suns

646
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: were they won this weekend. They lost to the Clippers,

647
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: they didn't have Stephan that and then they go beat

648
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns and they ran a play for Jonathan

649
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: Kmingo with thirty seconds left in inbound play where he

650
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: got fouled. He made three big free throws. He got

651
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: to the rim for tip in shots at the end there.

652
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: And I know this Warriors lineup that I just mentioned

653
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: there with Curry and Shruder and Wiggins cominga in green,

654
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: it ain't Dynasty Warriors, but it resembles to me the

655
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: team that everybody compares the Golden State Warriors too in

656
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs dynasty a little bit. You know,

657
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: they're changing who they are. Like the Spurs day it

658
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: was all Timmy, We're all running inside out with them

659
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: to start for the Spurs. Then they went to the

660
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: three point shots. Then they ran through Kawhi Leonard a

661
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 1: good amount. So they are going to run through Jonathan

662
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: Kaminga and not the guy who comes and is playing

663
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: off the split screens like they did with Stephan Clay

664
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: and hit three point shots, but going through him a

665
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: little like Kawhi. So I'm making the Spurs dynasty comparison.

666
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: Is it's wrong? It's wrong.

667
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: The Warriors won four of their like last sixteen games.

668
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there there's and it is. It's curt has

669
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: changed his mind. A couple of weeks ago, it was

670
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: cominga starting. Now he's coming off the bench, and he's

671
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: going to continue to come off the bench. He's their manager,

672
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: nobly just go through him a bunch of times. So

673
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: it is an interesting five man unit. Will they be

674
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: able to get. I don't know how far they get.

675
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna win a championship. But even the Dennis

676
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: Shruder thing is interesting because he's one of the few

677
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: guys got traded before December fifteenth. He still can be

678
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: part of a deal if they find something juicy out there.

679
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: There aren't many trades that can happen twice a year.

680
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: But because he got traded before December fifteenth, now with

681
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: the new CBA, he could be part of a guy

682
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: who's a star that they're still looking for because they

683
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: they don't want to be doing Curry, Schreuder, Wiggins cominga green.

684
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: But it's that bad when you look at it, you

685
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: squint and you look at it. They can play defensive.

686
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: Comingo is really good against Kevin Durant in that Phoenix

687
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: Suns game. But that's their closing lineup. It ain't their

688
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: starting lineup. It's their closer.

689
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: Is it a showcase still know here for Kuminga to

690
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: move him, and especially with the Lakers now making a

691
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: deal and as a team they're battling for in terms

692
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: of position, will they now feel like more more like

693
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: inspired to do a deal here before the trade deadline?

694
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: Yes. I think everything that we see with Kuminga from

695
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: now until the trade deadline is one hundred percent showcase stuff.

696
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 3: It is better for him to play in small lineups.

697
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: They need as much shooting as they can get on

698
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: the court for him to have space to work inside.

699
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: So him closing alongside Wiggins, Curry and Shrooter, I think

700
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: it is smart. Those are their three best outside shooters

701
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: outside of Buddy Heel, who's hot when he's hot, but

702
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: doesn't give you anything defensively. So it's a good environment

703
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: for Kaminga to be able to play downhill like he

704
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: likes to do. If he gives an effort defensively, he

705
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: can make an impact. But I don't think he'll be

706
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: there in March because I think that he is their

707
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: best chance of being able to lure somebody who's gonna

708
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: maybe move the needle. Because I'm with you, test this

709
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: is their best looking lineup, but it's probably still a

710
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: play in team or at the best the back end

711
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: of the top six, and that's likely a first round exit,

712
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: which isn't the point for the Warriors if they're going

713
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: to be paying Curry and Green the next couple of seasons.

714
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: They want to get better and Kaminga playing well is

715
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: good for them for their seeding now and also good

716
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: for them to get some team to be enticed by

717
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kaminga.

718
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple mini winners of the weekend. The Clippers,

719
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: you know you said they did beat the Warriors. There

720
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: no Curry, but they beat them one oh two ninety

721
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: two on Friday night. They're now eighteen thirteen. The Clips

722
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: are and and in and Kahi Leonard rumors that he's

723
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: gonna return to the lineup this weekend. In twenty twenty five,

724
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: on January fourth is when we might see Kawa. So

725
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: that's good. I'll give them a mini winner of the weekend, okay,

726
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: see proving that they're clearly the best team in the

727
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: Western Conference, like there is no doubt. They crushed the

728
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: short handed Grizzlies. I will say that one thirty to

729
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: one oh six for their eleventh straight victory. We got

730
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: to throw that in air quotes because you know, they

731
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: did lose the NBA Cup game, but doesn't count so

732
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: actual regular season games that matter. That's eleven straight for

733
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: o case. But Sja was awesome. He scored thirty five points.

734
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: I don't even think he played in the fourth quarter

735
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: in the blowout. He's pulled neck and neck with Jokich

736
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: in the Basketball Reference MVP tracker. I think it's Jokic

737
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: forty percent, you know, chance to win MVP again, and

738
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 2: then Shay right there at thirty eight point six percent.

739
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: Shay's numbers have been not since that brutal Cup game

740
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: that we saw in person where he was bad and okay,

741
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 2: see was bad. He's been on fire.

742
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: They've won eleven in a row. But they have it,

743
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: but they.

744
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 3: Have but they have it.

745
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have weird Yeah.

746
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: Uh, but I wanted to give a winner of the

747
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 2: weekend too. Fracases just a damn fun word to say,

748
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: first off, but we had a couple of fracases over

749
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: the weekend. On Friday night, use of Nurkic, Naji Marshall, PJ.

750
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: Washington all ejected after a fracas occurred in the MAVs

751
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: Sun's game fracas or fraucus. Yeah, otherwise said it was

752
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: a priests.

753
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: Wear frog.

754
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: Conclaim. Maybe that's why I said it. Nurk committed an

755
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: offensive foul when he popped Daniel Gafford with an elbow

756
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: in the head sort of while he was backing up

757
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: Naji Marshall. Man he took exception to that, and we

758
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: had lit melee kickoff Bob Nause. He threw a punch.

759
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see a lot of punches thrown in

760
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: the NBA. It legit threw one. It hit nurk Uh

761
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: and then the following day we had a bunch of

762
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: suspensions off of this. Nurk He got three games for

763
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: his incident involvement in the incident. Marshall got suspended four games.

764
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 2: Now I think why he got that extra one. Now,

765
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: he did definitely throw a punch that connected with Nurkic's face.

766
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 2: He then apparently attempted to further engage Nurkic in the

767
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: corridors by the locker rooms. So maybe that was like

768
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: one more for that, like, hey man, it's over, let

769
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: it go. And then Washington got one game for further

770
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: escalating the altercation by shoving nrk to the floor. So

771
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 2: that was our first fracice. Then last night, man, I'm

772
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: in Thompson threw Tyler Hero to the floor like a

773
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: damn rag doll. He had him by the jersey, He

774
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: just chucked him. Tyler Herro was very light compared to

775
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: Elin Thompson, but that kicked off an altercation between the

776
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: Rockets and the Heat. It resulted in six ejections for

777
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: that little thing, because when the dust settled, we had Thompson,

778
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: Jalen Green, Hero, and Terry Rozier all thrown out, and

779
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: then we had two coaches Rockets, head coach Email Yudoka

780
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: and then assistant coach Ben Sullivan. They also got tossed.

781
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: Before that, Fred nan Lee got tossed like seconds before

782
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: all this, which is probably what led to this and

783
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: all the chirpen and all that he bumped. Was it

784
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: accidental or was it not? Mark Davis? And that's enough

785
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: to get you out of there, because they called him

786
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: for a five second violation and Fred's like, I was

787
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: calling time out. Mark Daves like, no, you weren't. I

788
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: called five seconds first. Fred like bumped him. Do you

789
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: think it was accidentals? That's one of those ones like

790
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 2: he wasn't gonna be upset to bump them, but it

791
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 2: wasn't like chest bomb, you know, just sort of brushed

792
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: up against them.

793
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was definitely accidental. I think Mark

794
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: Davis said immediately. I think I couldn't read his mouth,

795
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: but he basically said, you bumped me. That results in

796
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: you getting tossed, Yeah, Frederick.

797
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: So fred went and then this is when, like you know,

798
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: like ten seconds later, this whole thing kicked off, and

799
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: I assume we'll get some more suspensions today.

800
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 3: It was a toss.

801
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

802
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: He may have liked that, I think. I think I think, like, yeah.

803
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: We're talking about rockets in the heat here, like scrappy bunches,

804
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: step up for your guys. And that's why I'm giving

805
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 2: it a Winter of the Weekend. You know who else

806
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: likes it? NBA fans for the most part, Like I

807
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: don't know one wants to see anyone get like really

808
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: hurt or anything, but a little animosity. I'm okay with it.

809
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: That's what Kyrie said after the after the Sun's versus Mavericks.

810
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 3: Almost like he's good for the ratings. People tune in fights.

811
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: I guess maybe this is the Fred Van bleed objection

812
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: was revenge for him trashing all the rests when he

813
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: got kicked out of a game a couple of weeks ago.

814
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: They would not forget that. They're not going to give

815
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 3: him the benefit of the doubt after he called everybody

816
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: and said you all suck.

817
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, doing it for the brotherhood, that's quite possible. Did

818
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: you see Kyrie's face as the Naji Marshall fight, hilarious.

819
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: Ratings through the room.

820
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: I know he was a tough guy, but not like this.

821
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. PJ.

822
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: Washington, that's another guy that will never back down from

823
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: a fight. And then Nurkic is a guy who gets

824
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: in a lot of fights. That was perfect.

825
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And speaking of referees, maybe doing something for the brotherhood.

826
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: Also got extremely close to a referee a few weeks ago.

827
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: But Udoka loves this kind of stuff. He goes over

828
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: to the locker and his head. Amen. Amen, we had

829
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: a we had a priest fracas we got to get somewhere. Yeah,

830
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: he did. He loves that stuff. He said, just don't

831
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: act like Europeans as he said about out and Shanku.

832
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: Anyway, which we still don't know was whether whether it

833
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: was a compliment or not. Remember we were like torn

834
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: on that you take it both ways.

835
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. It was a compliment sort of.

836
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: Uh but okay, I'm with you. You Dookas sort of

837
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: likes this, this identity, this attitude. But the flip side

838
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 2: is the Rockets do lose.

839
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: They're cool a lot, yes, and.

840
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: I think it comes from the top down. I think

841
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: you know, they are sort of taking on Udoka's personality.

842
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: And while that can be good and you want to

843
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: play with that energy and that attitude and that toughness,

844
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: you can cross the line and you know, guys are

845
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: gonna lose games here potentially h suspended and stuff like that.

846
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: And maybe it pays off in the long run because

847
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: guys come together more blah blah blah blah blah. But

848
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: I mean you can go too far, and they do

849
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: have a temper. It feels like to them some temper boys.

850
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 2: We'll get on the T shirt. So anyway, Fracas.

851
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: Froz or France, I mean fracus or fracus Okay.

852
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: Hero had a pretty funny line too after the game

853
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: because he part of obviously the hip toss.

854
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: From Funny Sunglasses.

855
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: Yes, loves his crazy shades. He keeped the comeback though.

856
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: He was awesome. Tyler Herro scored twenty seven points. This

857
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: guy should be an All Star and he believed that.

858
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: What frustrated Thompson was quote, I guess that what happens.

859
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: I guess that's what happens when someone's scoring, throwing dimes,

860
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: doing the whole thing. I'd get mad too. His whole

861
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 2: point is like, yeah, we stormed back, we took the lead.

862
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: You couldn't stop me, bro, and then so you know

863
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: you tossed me.

864
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: That's right, right, he's not wrong.

865
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: And then Thompson gets suspended.

866
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: Do you think that'll be it?

867
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: Or guy coming in? Yeah, he came jumped on.

868
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: So Tyler Hero, you think maybe avoid suspension because he's

869
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: didn't really.

870
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: Flexing arms out. Kangaroo.

871
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, those ones that come like windows in Australia, you're like, oh, crowd,

872
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: that's a jack tagger.

873
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: Man's scary as hell.

874
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: You always see them, like somebody comes in to like

875
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: punch those guys when they're attacking their dogs.

876
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: Anding like that for sure. If there's a team called

877
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: the jack Ruse, like there's the jack Rabbits, but a

878
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: jack kangaroo that flex ruse and that's cool.

879
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: Sounds sort of familiar, there might be. Let's get to

880
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: some NBA year end questions here because this is our

881
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 2: final show for twenty twenty four. We'll be back later

882
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: in the week with the Drop podcast in the new year.

883
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: But some questions for you guys. First one, I don't

884
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: know who wants to go first. Which struggling player or

885
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: team can ring in the new year on the right foot, right,

886
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: they can turn the page on maybe a crappy twenty

887
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: twenty four or a disappointing start of the season and really,

888
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: uh go in with a fresh set of eyes.

889
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: Mine's a little cheap because Dante DiVincenzo is kind of

890
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: back already, but he is a new guy. You know,

891
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: he looks he looks like the old Dontee devincenz before

892
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: he got traded to the Knicks. Because over his last

893
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: six he's averaging fifteen points on fifty percent shooting and

894
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: forty nine from three going wow. And this weekend he

895
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: was on fire five to ten of threes against Houston

896
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: and he had a twenty six point night against the Spurs.

897
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: I mean, he just looked bad the first eighteen point

898
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 1: eighteen games of the season. Is the numbers are are

899
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: poor and Rudy Gobert, I think he summarized it pretty well.

900
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: This was in John Krasinski's piece on the athletic reset.

901
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: From what I felt, I think he was still hanging

902
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: on to some frustrations from what happened, basically talking about

903
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: being traded. Then he was. And Dante said, what I

904
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: did was I stopped comparing what you do last year.

905
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: I changed it. Stop comparing what you did last year

906
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: and just go out and hoop. That's what he said.

907
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: And he's just doing that, and he's playing on the

908
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: second unit, and he is playing differently or he used

909
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: to just sort of play off the ball with Jolen

910
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: Bronson and just catch and shoot, but now he has

911
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: to come off these picks where he has to come

912
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: and he's going downhill in the paint and he's got

913
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: to find the corner shooters and he's just damn good

914
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: at it now. But it is a totally different game,

915
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: and he's really really good at when he looked like

916
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: a different guy the first twinning games. But Dante is

917
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: back playing like himself.

918
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that one. Dante DiVincenzo in the new year,

919
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 2: Who do you have tk team or player?

920
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: I got a team, the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, and

921
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 3: just like Tasts, maybe they're not actually struggling. They've won

922
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: nine of their last twelve games. Sixers are up to

923
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 3: eleventh in the Eastern Conference. They're a half game back

924
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 3: of the Pistons in tenth. They've got Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxey,

925
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 3: and Paul George starting and finishing consecutive games. They beat

926
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: the Celtics. Yeah, not bad, that's a good win their

927
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: last ten games. Fourteenth in offense, thirteenth in defense, fourteenth

928
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: and net rating. They've kind of just stabilized here. Not

929
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: a real championship contender, I don't think, but there's a

930
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: chance they squeeze into the top six. They're only three

931
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: and a half games out of the sixth place. Out

932
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: of sixth place right now. The teams that they're chasing,

933
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 3: the Heat, who could end up trading Jimmy Butler, have

934
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 3: been pretty inconsistent. The Pacers disappointing, the Bulls probably getting worse.

935
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: The Pistons a young team. There's a chance. I think

936
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: that the Sixers can still get into a guaranteed playoff

937
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 3: spot because they've got a pretty favorable schedule here at

938
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: the New Year's they got a four game road trip,

939
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 3: but it's the Blazers, the Kings, the Warriors, and the Nets,

940
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: all winnable games at the very least, that they come

941
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: home for three straight games against the Suns who are

942
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 3: struggling right now, the Wizards who stink, and the Pelicans

943
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: are somehow even worse than the Wizards. So they got

944
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: a chance to knock on the door of a five

945
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: hundred record here. And as long as they're able to,

946
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: you know, every finger and every toe you have crossed,

947
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: keep em Beid, Maxie and George on the court. They're

948
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: going to be a playoff team. I think they'll lose,

949
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: probably in the first round of the playoffs. But the

950
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: way the season started, it was a question market Vivey

951
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: would even get there.

952
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, that's a good one.

953
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: A sixth place finish for them would be ideal, better

954
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: than last year when they were finished as a playing team,

955
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: and they'd be facing the Knicks again. Probably Knicks look

956
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: like the three seed right now. They would do it

957
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: again one more time. Yeah, three six Nicks, sixers.

958
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it was a great series.

959
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great one.

960
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: All right. Second question here, which player has proved enough

961
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: to make his first All Star roster, and I think

962
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 2: we can remove Web and Yama from this discussion. That's

963
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 2: like a no brainer. That is going to be their Hell,

964
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: he might even start. So there feels like there's a

965
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: bunch of other guys you can make a case for.

966
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: Who do you think makes a first All Star Game.

967
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: Well, when I heard Dominique Wilkins, Hawks broadcaster saying that

968
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson should be an All Star, Jalen Johnson should

969
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: be an auncer, I said, nah, come on this early

970
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: in his career, number one and in a tough Eastern

971
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: Conference where there's a lot of really good forwards and

972
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: the Hawks position, I said nah. But then I started

973
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: looking at the numbers. Numbers are sick, Yeah, and he

974
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: is sick. Twenty points, ten rebounds, five and a half assists.

975
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 1: He's a really good pastor in the pick and roll situation.

976
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: Young sets him up in the middle and he'll find

977
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: guys in the quarner. And he is a highlight machine.

978
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: He likes dunking on guys number one very much and

979
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: he overpasses these fancy Schmancy passes and that's why he's

980
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: averaging way too many turnovers, but they are good. I mean,

981
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: if you the NBA wants to be modern and just

982
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: get the Instagram highlight machine in the All Star Game,

983
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: this guy, I mean, you can dunk over everybody. He's

984
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: kind of like Trey Young where he likes to do

985
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: little fancy flexes, you know that kind of thing. Yeah,

986
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: and he's good at it. And this Hawks team being

987
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: eighteen to fifteen, three games over five hundred for the

988
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: first time in years and over two years since twenty

989
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: twenty two, they have to be really good. And Trey

990
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: Young's likely going to be the guy that would be picked.

991
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: But Jalen Jonts is a damn good player and he'll

992
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: be an All Star at some point.

993
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: It's a good pick. I think he should be on

994
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: a lot of people short lists as a guy who

995
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: has a chance to make his first All Star Game.

996
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: Who else you got?

997
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: Well?

998
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: I was considering Jalen Johnson as well, but I don't

999
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: know if he'll make it because I think the Hawks

1000
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: will only get one All Star and it's like, who

1001
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 3: are that you in between Big Johnson twenty ten and

1002
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: five a steal and a half a block, incredible percentages

1003
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: or Trey Young twenty two a game, scoring, not shooting

1004
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: the ball very well, but leading the league in assists

1005
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: at twelve per game. But Trey Young always gets snubbed

1006
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: for an All Star berth so it'll be interesting to

1007
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 3: see if coaches actually choose him, because don't think he'll

1008
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: be a starter. But you know, the Hawks are definitely

1009
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: pushing vote for both of our two guys. Yeah, I

1010
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: wonder who coaches would pick for the backup spot. My

1011
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: guess is probably Trey Young since he's the straw that

1012
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: stirs the drink. But who knows the other guy you

1013
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 3: mentioned him earlier, Tyler Hero is guaranteed an All Star

1014
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: this year. He is kind of the embodiment of when

1015
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: people say people that the NBA shoots too many threes.

1016
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: What's really happened is that they stopped shooting twos from

1017
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: the mid range and started shooting threes, and that's exactly

1018
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: what Tyler Hero did. Suddenly his efficiency tacks way up.

1019
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: He's scoring, he's the best scorer on the heat. He's

1020
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 3: just been a really good player this season for Miami.

1021
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 3: So I think he's likely the All Star because Bam

1022
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: underwhelming season, Jimmy, we don't even know if he'll be

1023
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: a heat by the All Star breaks. So he hasn't

1024
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: had an All Star season as well, so I think

1025
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 3: here should probably get a NOD.

1026
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: One. More guy from the Eastern Conference who I like

1027
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: his chances more and more as the season progresses, especially

1028
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: because his team is winning games. Is Kate Cunningham with

1029
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: the Pistons. I mean, you know, they're they're crawling their

1030
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: way to five hundred. They're just them. Even being in

1031
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: sort of a playoff race or a play in race

1032
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: is a win. That's a great job there by the Pistons,

1033
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: and Kate is a huge reason why his stats are amazing.

1034
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: He's averaging twenty four points per game, seven boards, nearly

1035
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: ten assists, just under tennis is per game, and the

1036
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: percentages are ticking up here, you know, close over over

1037
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: a nineteen pr Like, he's really really good, and he's

1038
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: starting to clean up some of the problems that he

1039
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: had at the end of games where he would just

1040
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: like sloppy turnover and stuff like that. So I like,

1041
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: I like Kate's chances. He's obviously would be the Pistons

1042
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 2: representative if they are to get one, and is deserving,

1043
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: so gonna be a not an easy task here to

1044
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: build these teams. I guess the assistant coaches still do that, right.

1045
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 2: Tough to keep track of this, but I think so. Yeah,

1046
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: after we know the starters.

1047
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: I mean, it is the head coach's job, but they

1048
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:04,479
Speaker 1: don't do it.

1049
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: All right. One more question, it's a fun one. What's

1050
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: one bold NBA prediction for twenty twenty five.

1051
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard is going to play basketball? I mean, that's

1052
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: that's the one that's risky. It is risky, but apparently

1053
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: has been practicing basically all of December and trying to

1054
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: get ready, and so he's going to be a Los

1055
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: Angeles Clipper with the Clippers on the front, playing playing again. Yeah,

1056
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: he's doing it. He's going to be playing basket.

1057
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: Did you see the commercial at New Balance released course

1058
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: like over the weekend.

1059
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the fishing one. Yeah, yeah, it's really weird.

1060
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: It was weird.

1061
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: It's Kauai talking to another Kawhi, the one Kui is fishing.

1062
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: You love it? And uh, that's sort of what the

1063
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 2: premise is. I guess, yeah, it is the comeback.

1064
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: It's teasing the comeback, which hasn't been announced and we

1065
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: don't know for sure, but they're just teasing it. He

1066
00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 1: must be playing.

1067
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got new shoes. Is showing off of course.

1068
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: Too, Yeah, they show up.

1069
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: It's just it was an odd commercial.

1070
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: How much as said, which is Kawhi like? But it's weird.

1071
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So Kawhi Leonard is going to play?

1072
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went, I went crazy.

1073
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 3: What do you got to k A real crazy one

1074
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: would be Kawhi Leonard will play in the playoffs. We'll see.

1075
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: That's still a long time from now. I got three

1076
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: for you. Number one, A favorite won't win a mid

1077
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: season favorite. I don't know if it's going to be

1078
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: the Celtics winning the championship or Yokic winning MVP, but

1079
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: one of those two will not happen.

1080
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

1081
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: I think Shae actually did just leap Jokic for m

1082
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: VP favorite on bet MGM because they're on this you know,

1083
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 3: fake eleven game win streak, which is pretty hilarious because

1084
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: people were changing their tim bon temps strophole votes from

1085
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 3: Shaye to Jannis after the game that now apparently doesn't

1086
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: count now shades in front. Hilarious stuff. One of those,

1087
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: either the Celtics or Yokic will not take home hardware

1088
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: at the end of the year. Okay, number two, the

1089
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: end is going to rig the lottery for the Bulls.

1090
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: Oh I thought it's for the Raptors.

1091
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be a rigg. The Raptors have a shot.

1092
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: They're terrible. We've lost ten straight. The balls only have

1093
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: a two and a half percent chance, and it's time

1094
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: for them to put a star in one of the

1095
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: biggest media markets in the United States. Bless us Adam,

1096
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: But my real prediction here, Victor wembin Yama is gonna

1097
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: be a first team All NBA player whoa okay right now?

1098
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 3: Twenty five points per game, ten rebounds, four assists, four

1099
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: blocks in a steel shooting forty eight percent from the

1100
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: field in thirty six from three in December alone, twenty

1101
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 3: nine per game, ten rebounds, five assists, forty eight percent

1102
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: thirty nine from three on nine point eight three point

1103
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: attempts per game. You know he's gonna win Defensive Player

1104
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 3: of the Year. He's leading the league in blocks right now,

1105
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: and most importantly, he has only missed five of the

1106
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 3: spurs thirty two games, which puts him ahead of a

1107
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 3: lot of other players who are going to be gunning

1108
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 3: for first Team All NBA because jokicill make it, Yannis

1109
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: will make it, Shay will make it. I think t

1110
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 3: will be a guy as well. But the fourth spot

1111
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: is probably up for grabs because Luka Doncic has already

1112
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: missed ten games and he's out of the lineup right now,

1113
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 3: and Beid is not going to be eligible to make

1114
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: this team. So I think Wemby has a shot alongside

1115
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 3: guys like Donovan Mitchell Towns or brunts in from the Knicks.

1116
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 3: Whichever guy gets, you know, a little bit of a

1117
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 3: second half juice at the very least. I think he's

1118
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: gonna make second team guaranteed, but I wouldn't be surprised

1119
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 3: if he makes first team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. I'll give you one immediate

1121
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: bold NBA prediction that I think is going to happen

1122
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 2: as soon as maybe Tuesday night or at least this week,

1123
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: and that is Lebron James, who just turned forty today,

1124
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: Happy birthday to the King, will score forty plus points

1125
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: in a game. Now. I think if he plays he

1126
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: didn't play in the last game he had nillness or

1127
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: they put it down as an illness. It plays the

1128
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: Cavs on Tuesday night, he'll obviously be forty. The only

1129
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: player to ever score forty in a game at the

1130
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 2: age of forty plus, that's Michael Jordan, and you know,

1131
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: Lebron James is going to want to also check that off.

1132
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 2: So I think it will happen very soon here again,

1133
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 2: whether it happens on Tuesday night or some point this week,

1134
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: he's going to do it. And if it takes a

1135
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: lot of shots or him driving to the rim non

1136
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: stop to hit a bunch of free throws, Lebron, you know,

1137
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: has that one on the checklist, probably to surpass Michael's

1138
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: high of I think was forty as a forty year

1139
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: old there with the Wizards back in the day. That's

1140
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just a no brainer. That's gonna go. Yeah, yeah,

1141
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: he'll probably go for fifty. So give me that one

1142
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: as an immediate Bold prediction. Let's hear from you. That's

1143
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: a fun question. Let us know in the stream, team,

1144
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: let us know in the YouTube comments. You can tweet

1145
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: at us at no Dunk's ink your Bold twenty twenty

1146
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: five NBA prediction. Okay, pick them. It's been so long,

1147
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 2: I forgot we did this, but we have a tie

1148
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: it is at the bottom of the standings in our December.

1149
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 2: Pick them and the loser will have to co host

1150
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: or be a correspondent outside for a week. The weather's

1151
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 2: turned a little nice over the last couple of days, but.

1152
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: It's been rainy right now and what heat is not

1153
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: on in the studio.

1154
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: And I saw a report that Atlanta might get like

1155
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: a foot of snow in the coming day. I don't

1156
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: know if I believe that, but anyway, it's task and

1157
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: it's Ash who are tied for last place in December.

1158
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 2: So tonight's game is going to decide it.

1159
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: Hopefully this is it. This game decides it all. Okay, Yeah,

1160
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: we talked about it, Esh and I did. I said, Esh,

1161
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: you go first, because I'm so bad at picking games.

1162
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to pick. I'm going to pick the

1163
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: opposite of you. And as the Knicks go into Washington again,

1164
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: they just played there, so they're playing again. Washington is

1165
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: an eleven and a half point underdog. They just have

1166
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: to lose by eleven or less. Okay, So Ash was

1167
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: comfortable picking the New York Knicks, and I was comfortable

1168
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: taking the Wizards. I mean, you know, I'm going to

1169
00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: be the one sitting outside talking about basketball is to

1170
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 1: be fine.

1171
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: Wait, what's Brunton status? Is he does he it go?

1172
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: I don't know if he is. But they're playing the

1173
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: Wizards the second time. You might give a bunch of

1174
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: guys the night off.

1175
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: It was an overtime game. It was an overtime game.

1176
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: It was just a four point loss.

1177
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: Just a four point loss.

1178
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: You know, you know it's really would be really stupid

1179
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: is if it's an overtime game again and they lose

1180
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: by twelve points. That's not allowed. But anyway, anyway, I

1181
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna lose this. Okay, it's okay.

1182
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna You're not gonna lose. I'm feeling

1183
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: really confident, but it's me.

1184
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: This is how it's gone every time, Like even last month,

1185
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: early in this month, I shut off hot. Some some

1186
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: shit happens happen.

1187
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: Hey, look, this is your first time ever doing this.

1188
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: It's infuriating, isn't it?

1189
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: Yes?

1190
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: It is.

1191
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: What it is so good, it's so infuriating.

1192
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: But December is my worst month. I've had to eat

1193
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: a fruitcake in January before just Amer is definitely my worst.

1194
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: That's your lull.

1195
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: Yes, And so today December thirtieth is going to be

1196
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: our last game. There's no game on December thirty first,

1197
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: And to make it fun, we're going to do it

1198
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: on playback.

1199
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: Oh, we're going to watch this game.

1200
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: Of course. I sucked ash in. I said, you're watching.

1201
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: This is a must watch everyone A Wizards, Nicks.

1202
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: I love it.

1203
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: That's part of it. I guess we'll jumping around games

1204
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: on playback.

1205
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bull's Hornets is also tipping at seven o'clock. That's

1206
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: what we're gonna go, big game, huge, only sickos tonight.

1207
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: We only want to see Ciccos out there for this

1208
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: big game. Big games. I guess Bulls Hornets and Wizards

1209
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: and Nicks. But the stakes are high obviously in that

1210
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 2: in that nixt Wizards game. So join us. That link

1211
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: is in the show notes. Join our play back room.

1212
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: It's it's a lot of fun. I guess we're doing. Oh,

1213
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: I mean we have to, we have to do the

1214
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 2: whole game.

1215
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless unless it's a forty point blow up.

1216
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well I never know, never know over there, alright,

1217
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: So let's call it. We will see you tonight, hopefully

1218
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: in those playback streets for that game. Thanks so much,

1219
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: for joining us here. We will see you later this

1220
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: week on Friday. I know we've had some strange weeks

1221
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: here on the holiday season. Back to normal next week,

1222
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: but we'll be back on Friday for the Drop podcast.

1223
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: So make sure you subscribe, hit the like button, leave

1224
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: us a five star rating and review. Ooh, first Friday

1225
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Speaker 2: of the month. Okay, could get some reviews a year.

1226
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, interesting.

1227
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 3: Fifty five star reviews.

1228
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: Wow wow. So if you want to get a review in,

1229
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: maybe you'll make Friday show. So get at it this

1230
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: week until Friday or tonight on Playback Clipper Roads.

1231
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 3: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

1232
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1233
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. I remember usually we're five times

1234
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: a week, but it's because of the NBA Cup schedule.

1235
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: Really really through things, really big time. I know teams

1236
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: are upset at the NBA Cup schedule, So fans, if

1237
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: you're upset, write Adam Silver letter and say hey, no,

1238
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: Dunks was on five times a week until the NBA

1239
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: Cup came around and they had to go to.

1240
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: Fan It's ruined everything that ass let Letwinter EMBs the

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Speaker 2: new people k