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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I'm joined in a
Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes. Chris Westling to my left
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal to m my right. Was our boys,
Speaker 1: Hey an Mark Sesler under the weather, not feeling himself
Speaker 1: this morning, So we sold you on as a trio.
Speaker 1: Three amigos, if you will. What a day for football.
Speaker 1: It was like we were. I think the NFL held
Speaker 1: off last week while we were in London. Let's have
Speaker 1: a nice week one everyone's going to enjoy. Anyways, Let's
Speaker 1: save the good stuff for when these guys are just
Speaker 1: in the studio and can watch. I mean you say
Speaker 1: good as someone that is deeply plugged into the kicking
Speaker 1: game in professional football. This was a dark day. This
Speaker 1: is a hashtag never forget. This was maybe the most
Speaker 1: fun day I've had watching football in like four or
Speaker 1: five years. Wow. Football put on a sexy red gown
Speaker 1: and turned heads at the end end of summer ball.
Speaker 1: Today that that sequence, and we talked about this one
Speaker 1: shot at you talked about this last week Sky Sports,
Speaker 1: that fifteen to twenty minute window at the end of
Speaker 1: the early games, and today you had uh Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: with an impossible throw to Adam Thaland to force overtime.
Speaker 1: St you got Fitzpatrick at the podium looking like a pimp.
Speaker 1: I don't know he was looking like the Sean Jackson
Speaker 1: because he just took the Sean Jackson's outfit. That was
Speaker 1: the story behind sts Brown's You've got Vonte Davis retiring
Speaker 1: at halftime and that news is coming out. You've got
Speaker 1: Falcon Houston, driving Pittsburgh driving Carolina, driving all about five
Speaker 1: games at the end, which all came out. It was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Um I grew up listening to Mike francessa New York
Speaker 1: He had a term for the end of the games.
Speaker 1: Uh in that hour, It's called the witching hour. Dog,
Speaker 1: It's the Witching hour something like that. Uh So, what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna go through all of the
Speaker 1: games on Sunday, and yes, despite the the woes in
Speaker 1: the Kicker game and a lot of kickers that are unemployed,
Speaker 1: we're on their couches jumping up and down with joy
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be workouts across the league and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that with each game. You know, your
Speaker 1: boy Kai was enjoying today. Guys feeling good? You know
Speaker 1: why guaranteed I put a sandwich on it. If anybody
Speaker 1: wants to take me on it. Kai for Bath is
Speaker 1: on a team week three? Who wants to take me
Speaker 1: on it? Kai is getting a job because Kai was
Speaker 1: good last year. Maybe not in Minnesota because we'll get
Speaker 1: to that. But I'll take you up on that. I
Speaker 1: would not take you up on Kai get is one
Speaker 1: of the kickers in some try out of different cities. No,
Speaker 1: I agree with Dan. All right, let's do it. Sandwich. Wow,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm super invested in Kai four Bath.
Speaker 1: I hope interview as well. All right, so let's get
Speaker 1: to the games. And why don't we start with a
Speaker 1: rematch of the uh A f C Championship. Dropping the
Speaker 1: throw is Blake looking as far as a little crossing
Speaker 1: round called wide open, west Brook. You're in the Patris
Speaker 1: Territory season. Battle to the party, west Brook int tide
Speaker 1: the start of your line. Hold on to that sideline.
Speaker 1: Let's go to five the old touchdown portals to Westbrook.
Speaker 1: Portal touchdown Frank Frangie w O k V with the
Speaker 1: call Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles through for three seventy seven
Speaker 1: and four touchdowns, including that game clinching fifty eight yard
Speaker 1: hook up with D. D. Westbrook and the Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: deliver an early statement with a thirty one to twenty
Speaker 1: win over the New England Patriots. As I said, a
Speaker 1: rematch of the a f C Championship game west the
Speaker 1: Jacks could not close the door on the Pats in January,
Speaker 1: this time they slammed it shut. Well. This was a
Speaker 1: beat down from the beginning to the end, and there
Speaker 1: was a period middle of the fourth quarter it looks
Speaker 1: like the Patriots could get back into the game of
Speaker 1: things broke right, but they didn't break right, and on
Speaker 1: fourth and inches from their own nineteen yard line, down
Speaker 1: eleven points, they decided to punt. And to me, that
Speaker 1: was that was a backbreaker because the very next play,
Speaker 1: Blake borders the D D. Westbrook sixty one yards. Some
Speaker 1: poor tackling on that play, some poor angles were taken
Speaker 1: and the game was over. But this was Jaguars dominating
Speaker 1: up from on both sides of the ball and showing
Speaker 1: that they just have a much stronger roster. Well, you
Speaker 1: think of the Patriots as this established team, and they
Speaker 1: are an established franchise with the greatest quarterback of all time.
Speaker 1: But these two teams as they stand now, the Jaguars
Speaker 1: are kind of who they are. They're gonna they want
Speaker 1: to stay this team that they have in terms of
Speaker 1: their defense and in terms of offensively, they know what
Speaker 1: they want to be for the most part. The Patriots
Speaker 1: are very much a work in progress. So even though
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I don't know if they were an underdog
Speaker 1: in this game or not. To me, they're the more
Speaker 1: established team and they looked like at the Patriots are
Speaker 1: I think gonna be fine, but they're gonna be figuring
Speaker 1: some things out on both sides of the ball. They
Speaker 1: lost their best defensive player, Trey Flowers to a concussion,
Speaker 1: they lost Patrick Chung, and Blake Bortles was making throws
Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick was daring him to make. The first
Speaker 1: two drives of the game, to me were the key
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. He hit a lot of tight windows.
Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily the Patriots defense playing poorly. It was
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles beating one on one matchups. And remember this
Speaker 1: is the Jaguars without Leonard Fournette, who had the hamstring
Speaker 1: in issue inactive, So what they what do they do?
Speaker 1: They don't pound on the ground. They a lot of
Speaker 1: short passes and then, like you said, just when there
Speaker 1: was one play in particular, I think one of the
Speaker 1: early touchdowns Patriots who saw eight in the box basically
Speaker 1: daring Blake Bortles to beat you downfield, and he did it.
Speaker 1: And I think it was such a big game for
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles. It's a big game in the a f C.
Speaker 1: We talked about it before, Greg how it's kind of
Speaker 1: a bummer. It was a week two, but it counts
Speaker 1: the same. So now if these two teams finished with
Speaker 1: the same record and there's a postseason by on the line,
Speaker 1: it is the Jaguars that would get that by, and
Speaker 1: think West. This is a huge day for Blake Bortles
Speaker 1: and his confidence as this season starts to get rolling
Speaker 1: or two and oh now he was legitimately great today. Um,
Speaker 1: as far as his confidence goes, I'm not buying into
Speaker 1: that narrative. I've seen this too often. The job of
Speaker 1: an NFL starting quarterback is to be consistent and reliable,
Speaker 1: and Bortles is the opposite of that. Well, people forget
Speaker 1: he's had incredible games. They're usually not this high profile,
Speaker 1: but he's thrown in three or four of these games
Speaker 1: certainly in his second year, in his third year, a
Speaker 1: couple of them last year, Like he's had these games
Speaker 1: where you can see why he was taking number three
Speaker 1: overall in the draft. And I think one thing that
Speaker 1: Jack's fans have to feel great about, though, is Keelan
Speaker 1: Cole is legit. I mean, he might have been undrafted,
Speaker 1: but he's plays like a number one receiver. I mean
Speaker 1: he makes plays. Corey Grant needs to be a big
Speaker 1: part of this offense even when Leonard four Nette is back.
Speaker 1: And I don't think they're better without for Nette, but
Speaker 1: I do think they're more aggressive without for and a
Speaker 1: little less predictable, and maybe that helps them in a
Speaker 1: game against the Patriots that west you referred to the
Speaker 1: Patriots decision to punt very they were down three in
Speaker 1: this game. Uh, the Jaguars turning over near the midfield,
Speaker 1: New England turns that into a touchdown, they kick a
Speaker 1: field goal, they're back within striking distance. And it was
Speaker 1: a unique situation because they they got the first down initially,
Speaker 1: and there was challenge and it was a good challenge
Speaker 1: by Doug Moron because and when it happened, I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't like that challenge. Because very rarely do spot
Speaker 1: challenges get overturned, but in this case it did. So
Speaker 1: now it's fourth and inches, and I know it's deep
Speaker 1: and doing a territory, but Bill has done this before,
Speaker 1: where you guys surprised that he did optupunt. I was shocked,
Speaker 1: and I think we were talking down there. Greg seemed shocked,
Speaker 1: and we were both yelling at Romo that he was
Speaker 1: I was kind of descending to Romo being like, I
Speaker 1: was like, they're not gonna punt here, They're gonna go
Speaker 1: for it. Of course they're gonna go like it's and
Speaker 1: you've got the best quarterback sneaker of all times. This
Speaker 1: wasn't one of those games though, And I know Tim Posey,
Speaker 1: who's behind the Los cannon, who was really taking this hard. Uh,
Speaker 1: this isn't one of those as a Patriots fan where
Speaker 1: I'm worrying about those small details just because the Jaguars
Speaker 1: were much better, Like they just were way better, and yeah,
Speaker 1: they could have snuck back into the game, but I
Speaker 1: had no faith that the Patriots would ultimately get stopped
Speaker 1: or make enough big plays on offense to get it done.
Speaker 1: What to me the most alarming the fact for the
Speaker 1: Patriots is what do you do? What do you have
Speaker 1: when a guy like toddwash the defensive coordinator, creatively takes
Speaker 1: out Rob Gronkowski? What else do you have on offense?
Speaker 1: But you got fourteen weeks to figure that out. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have a lot more. And you have Tom.
Speaker 1: You have Tom Brady start. If you follow the sport,
Speaker 1: you know the Patriots in September are very different than
Speaker 1: the Patriots in January. But Greg and I just have
Speaker 1: to check in with you. The pants, Uh, sometimes you
Speaker 1: couldn't be it couldn't be more dry? Yeah, well are
Speaker 1: we let's say ten? Oh my goodness, I need to
Speaker 1: get home. I got my pants that soaked through one
Speaker 1: nothing at all, total dryness, Pea scale, total dryness. This
Speaker 1: is the it they were out. You don't want to
Speaker 1: go back to Jacksonville January, bro, I don't care what.
Speaker 1: It's a week two game. Almost any results apparently he's
Speaker 1: got not gonna be that worrisome. But the Jaggers played great.
Speaker 1: I mean, tam posts her pants are wet right now.
Speaker 1: Let's just put it out. I smelled it as soon
Speaker 1: as I walked out out. That's not true, but you're right,
Speaker 1: if it comes down to the by. And also, this
Speaker 1: is not a game that we want to lose. You
Speaker 1: don't want to because when we see them again. No,
Speaker 1: this was the game. I've been looking forward to this
Speaker 1: game more than a lot of the other ones coming up.
Speaker 1: I mean this means something down the line. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter that we played it like an extension of preseason.
Speaker 1: Belichick was gone, just go ahead. What do you mean
Speaker 1: they played it? They just got out played it. It happened.
Speaker 1: I just want to market today September six eighteen that
Speaker 1: our producer made a formal sincere denial that she had
Speaker 1: wet herself. Let's move on, By the way, the hottest
Speaker 1: games to try to get the right protection call just
Speaker 1: called Tyreek OWWN Kansas. Sitting on a street pattern up
Speaker 1: the left sideline. Mitch holt us Kate see f X
Speaker 1: With the call, Patrick Mahomes tied a franchise record six
Speaker 1: touchdown passes. Can you believe this guy? And the Chiefs
Speaker 1: held off the Pittsburgh Steelers at seven win at Heinz Field.
Speaker 1: Back to back road games from Holmes goes absolutely nuts. Gregg.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot of defense to be found in
Speaker 1: this one. But a mano with mono show down between
Speaker 1: the old guard, Big Ben and the new one PM two.
Speaker 1: I made that up. Yeah, we need a we need
Speaker 1: a nickname for Patrick Mahomes in general and just watching
Speaker 1: him play, I mean, for right now, to me, he's
Speaker 1: just box office. They're the number one team on the
Speaker 1: game that, They're the number one team on the Game
Speaker 1: Pass rankings. They should be the number one team on
Speaker 1: CBS if they've got an option of who they can
Speaker 1: show nationally. Because when you can put up twenty one
Speaker 1: points like that in the first half of forty two
Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill barely touches the ball, Andy Reid and
Speaker 1: Eric b Enemy have to get almost as much credit
Speaker 1: as Mahomes, who's timing and accuracy and kind of next
Speaker 1: level eye movement has really been good for a young player.
Speaker 1: But these guys are open. I mean, Tyree Hill gets
Speaker 1: behind the defense every play. Sammy Watkins was open all day.
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey had a yard and a half of separation
Speaker 1: on a lot of these plays. It's looked, it looked
Speaker 1: too easy, It's looked familiar to for a Steelers defense
Speaker 1: that gave up what forty four last time they were
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. I'm trying to remember break big week for
Speaker 1: the top ten Receiving Corps rankings. Every everyone was saying
Speaker 1: that after this game, Sammy Watkins, who is maybe the
Speaker 1: fourth best position or skill position player on this team,
Speaker 1: would be the best on some teams. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: looked good today and Kelsey. Those two guys, Kelsey and Watkins,
Speaker 1: who didn't do a lot last week, were the kind
Speaker 1: of the dominant figures today. But I've watched this Steelers
Speaker 1: team enough and Tomlin has been there coach for a while,
Speaker 1: and these players on defense for the most part have
Speaker 1: been there while. And I know they got out schemed,
Speaker 1: and it's only week two and it was really hot
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh as well, But I never trust this defense
Speaker 1: to make any stops. And at some point you gotta wonder,
Speaker 1: just not since went down, That's true. They were playing
Speaker 1: great last year midway through the season, and you just
Speaker 1: this team needs to have some sort of defense. You
Speaker 1: mentioned the one on one matchup between Roethlisberger and Mahomes.
Speaker 1: To me, that was a draw. Big Ben made a
Speaker 1: number of incredible plays for the most about, right, do
Speaker 1: you think he played that up a little bit less
Speaker 1: come on it's the Pope camp, like, Ben, did you
Speaker 1: play it up at all the elbow? Be honest? Ah,
Speaker 1: that was my impression of bit honest. Okay, he I
Speaker 1: mean yeah. The difference partly was also just this was
Speaker 1: like an arena league game where it was just came
Speaker 1: down who can make one or two stops? And Ryan
Speaker 1: Switzer and Ben Roethlisberger we're not on the same page.
Speaker 1: On one third down, where Roethlisberger expected Switzer to keep going,
Speaker 1: it was like a third and one. So many of
Speaker 1: the the third and sevens and third and six just
Speaker 1: felt like layups. You just expected the offense on both
Speaker 1: sides to get fifteen yards every play, and they made
Speaker 1: a mistake on that. And little players like that were
Speaker 1: the difference. There wasn't too much separating. As a football fan,
Speaker 1: these are not my favorite types of games. That's why
Speaker 1: anybody that was saying Eagles Patriots is one of the
Speaker 1: top super bowls. I like a little defense. I like
Speaker 1: when it's a little even and there there's some playmaking
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball going up and down
Speaker 1: the field. I watched these two teams and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: they can put up points and they'll probably be exciting
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, But are these contenders if
Speaker 1: you if if your defense is this bad, can you
Speaker 1: be taken seriously in the conference? I am already taking
Speaker 1: the Chiefs seriously. Yeah, well remember last September though, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I just think they're
Speaker 1: maybe it's the early season. Andy Reid is already ahead
Speaker 1: of everyone ahead. We're gonna catch up to him. Thing
Speaker 1: I don't know, because people caught up to him last year.
Speaker 1: I think the defensive personnel, especially in Pittsburgh, but in
Speaker 1: Kansas City to can there's good enough players there that
Speaker 1: I think they could improve throughout the course of the season.
Speaker 1: But I think for right now, Mike tom Tomas coaching
Speaker 1: the wrong team. And I and I think he's we
Speaker 1: saw this a little bit. He should be coaching the
Speaker 1: team that he has, which is not a team with
Speaker 1: a defense you can trust. And I remember last week
Speaker 1: you said, you know, Hugh Jackson almost Dan said that
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson almost didn't seem ready to win that game
Speaker 1: and got a little tight team. But the Steelers were
Speaker 1: really the team in that game that did that as well.
Speaker 1: They sat on that lead, they were way too conservative
Speaker 1: against the Browns, and I saw the same thing today
Speaker 1: out of the Steelers in too many situations in this
Speaker 1: game where they could not get stops. They were punting
Speaker 1: on fourth down and I know it's fourth and sixth,
Speaker 1: fourth and seven. They just had to start going for
Speaker 1: it when they when they needed to keep the ball,
Speaker 1: they punted, I think at one point with eight minutes
Speaker 1: left and the game was basically over at that point.
Speaker 1: You gotta play to your strength. It's in its offense.
Speaker 1: Do you think that we are You've made comments that
Speaker 1: you see the Steelers as a team not in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and you even threw out some some records that would
Speaker 1: be eye opening if the Steelers finished with them. Do
Speaker 1: you think that we're just sleeping on them? That of
Speaker 1: course they're gonna put it together. They have too much
Speaker 1: talent not to I mean they're only old one and one,
Speaker 1: so it's not a panic. I mean they also Jesse
Speaker 1: James look good smith shoes. You want the Steelers to
Speaker 1: I do? I mean, let's let's root for the story.
Speaker 1: And we've seen the Steelers enough in the mix. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen the Pats enough though, so let's root
Speaker 1: for them. Wow, that's my that's my team, I think,
Speaker 1: don't they seem like a team with a few more
Speaker 1: else could just internally combust like just it goes a little.
Speaker 1: They never have though, you know, yeah under Tomlin, but
Speaker 1: I I see where you're got nine and seven. But yeah,
Speaker 1: let's move up a thirty five yard field gold prize
Speaker 1: to kick the Bikings no spot Carlson. He missed it again,
Speaker 1: and he missed it right of the third time in
Speaker 1: the history of the Horner Battle that at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, of the time Daniel Carlson missed green
Speaker 1: field goals today, Paul Allen k f a n with
Speaker 1: the call, My goodness, he's the bath Daniel Carlson. It
Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick. The round pick I think
Speaker 1: fit missed two field goals in overtime, including that thirty
Speaker 1: five yard or pushed it right as time expired, and
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings stuck with a twenty nine tie with
Speaker 1: the Packers. They wiped out a thirteen point deficit in
Speaker 1: this game, but ended up kissing their sister. That's a
Speaker 1: weird phrase that people will use. Shook, Nick Shook, He's back.
Speaker 1: He helped us out on Sunday Night Football last week
Speaker 1: and now we lean on him again. He's in the
Speaker 1: studio with us. There's a lot to break down here, buddy.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers delivered another great performance on one on one leg.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins played like a star. But both teams will
Speaker 1: come out this tie with regret. Right, Yeah, absolutely. I
Speaker 1: was waiting for the Paul Allen called no no. It
Speaker 1: was a bad day for kickers and Daniel Carlson was
Speaker 1: one of the worst offenders. But this game was a
Speaker 1: tale of two halves because in the first half, Green
Speaker 1: Bay played great defense. Uh, they they stuck with their
Speaker 1: base package, which they did not do in week one,
Speaker 1: and it kind of left Minnesota scrambling for an answer.
Speaker 1: And then the second half Green Bass, which is what
Speaker 1: they're doing. Minnesota is left to pass because they're trying
Speaker 1: to erase the deficit and they end up tying the game. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, in regulation on what might be a controversial call,
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna hear about it more in the next
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, which is Clay Matthews hit on Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins which nullified and intern that would have ended the game.
Speaker 1: That made me furious, and if I'm a Packers fan,
Speaker 1: I'm dying. But even as a football fan, he gets
Speaker 1: up under Kirk Cousins, but not in a flagrant way,
Speaker 1: not in a violent way. Just as Cousins releases the past,
Speaker 1: he takes him down. They throw the flag. And Matthews,
Speaker 1: who who got killed with the roughing the pass there
Speaker 1: last week that he deserved, he got up and he
Speaker 1: was absolutely stunned. Let's just let's hear from Clay Matthews
Speaker 1: his thoughts on that. I mean, I don't even know
Speaker 1: where to starting, to be completely honest with you. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have so many emotions kind of running through as
Speaker 1: far as that Tim Riggins, It's just what a terrible time,
Speaker 1: handsome man. I don't know what else to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know you let me know. Let me tell
Speaker 1: me that I did. I put pressure on him because
Speaker 1: I you know, I thought I hit him with him.
Speaker 1: You know, there's waste of chest. I got my head across,
Speaker 1: put my hands down, and to call it, you know,
Speaker 1: at that point in the game, it's just, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. No, I didn't get it. I didn't get
Speaker 1: explanation whatsoever. I had no idea, you know, I looked
Speaker 1: up there was a flag there, and uh, I honestly
Speaker 1: had no idea, you know, because like I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I got my head across, hands were down. I didn't
Speaker 1: dump him, hit him within the framework, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the proper tackling area. So I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's you know, much like
Speaker 1: saw with the Lauren a helmet preseason. I think they
Speaker 1: hopefully the league you know, gets to the refs m
Speaker 1: you know, tells him to Tony down a little bit
Speaker 1: because it's uh, I mean, I don't know what else
Speaker 1: to do. So Tony Creanti, the official, did speak with
Speaker 1: the media afterwards. He said, I had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with any of the new rules. That when Clay Matthews
Speaker 1: hit the quarterback, he lifted him and drove him into
Speaker 1: the ground. If you watch the replay, that's just clearly
Speaker 1: the wrong call. Cousins kind of jumped up in the air,
Speaker 1: he didn't lift him or drive him to the ground,
Speaker 1: and it's just a bad call that could swing the division.
Speaker 1: Now shook on Twitter. I saw that Eric Kendricks had
Speaker 1: a similar call go against him. Is that true? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is true. Um, but this one was not in
Speaker 1: the same level as that because this decided the game essentially.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's on Green Bay to get a
Speaker 1: stop and they didn't, but they got one on that play.
Speaker 1: I mean afterwards, you want to bounce back, you know,
Speaker 1: if if you're you're really the better team, you get
Speaker 1: to stop, and they didn't. But that's a terrible call, uh.
Speaker 1: Not to take away from the Vikings. They had two
Speaker 1: great performances from Adam Healing and Stefon Diggs both the
Speaker 1: quarterback yes and and Kirk Cousins breaking four yards, four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: only one pick forty eight and an incredible connection with
Speaker 1: feeling to get them in the end zone late and
Speaker 1: kept putting them in position to kick game winning field
Speaker 1: and they couldn't do it. And that was a ridiculous
Speaker 1: throw to tie, and then it was a pretty throw
Speaker 1: on the two point conversion. Cousins definitely put some times up.
Speaker 1: It was a perfect to play. Illustration of how they're
Speaker 1: passing game is because he goes to theland first on what,
Speaker 1: according to the Next Gen Stats, was the toughest catch
Speaker 1: of the season, had a catch probability completion probability of
Speaker 1: twelve point four percent. That's a new man. How do
Speaker 1: they compute that it takes in its different factors, separation
Speaker 1: at time of release, that kind of thing two right
Speaker 1: and uh, And then the next play they go to
Speaker 1: Digs on a well run route to tie the game.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's encouraging for Vikings fans going forward
Speaker 1: and and the Packers to an extent um. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be a division battle that I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see them meet. You know who this this is discouraging
Speaker 1: for Saints, Falcons and pay Anthem. A tie is maybe
Speaker 1: knock one of those teams out of the playoffs down
Speaker 1: the road. Daniel Carlson uh beat out Kai's Kai for
Speaker 1: Bath drafted in the fifth round. So it puts you,
Speaker 1: I know, our boy Paul Allen said they might leave
Speaker 1: him at Lambeau. But you're in a tough spot as
Speaker 1: an organization because when you invest draft capital and a
Speaker 1: kicker like we saw last year with a Guayo, the
Speaker 1: team is gonna probably stick with you. So you wonder
Speaker 1: if a they do exactly that and give this guy
Speaker 1: more chances, And then you have to wonder, and this
Speaker 1: is where it's a tough game and a tough gig.
Speaker 1: If he's gonna cost him another game just because they
Speaker 1: feel like they don't want to eat that draft investment
Speaker 1: and and just admit a failure on it. So it's
Speaker 1: a tough situation, uh for the Vikings who have been
Speaker 1: haunted and snake bitten at the kicker position for decades
Speaker 1: as we know, and this is just another kind of
Speaker 1: unforgettable chapter, Uh in that world. Do you know we've
Speaker 1: made some progress compared to last year. Last September we
Speaker 1: were talking about the catch roll, the anthem drama, injuries
Speaker 1: taking out star players, too many flags, boring football games,
Speaker 1: slopping us from the preseason hangover. And this year we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: the fun game ended in a tie. Yeah, I'm also
Speaker 1: the tie guy. By the way, this was my assigned
Speaker 1: game this week. I had the Browns last week. We've
Speaker 1: never had three ties in a season since they went
Speaker 1: to the overtime rule, which was over thirty years ago
Speaker 1: or forty years ago. So we just a side, just
Speaker 1: a side shook. And you're right at this point last
Speaker 1: year we were talking about remember the scoring crisis of
Speaker 1: September thousand and seventy, people like defense is just dominated,
Speaker 1: every non existent anymore. We'd be remiss if we didn't
Speaker 1: get a report on Aaron Rodgers playing on one leg.
Speaker 1: He looked really good. He decided to wear an actual
Speaker 1: brace this week, which seemed to help him. Um, you
Speaker 1: really couldn't tell. It wasn't like last week. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like where he was kind of floating. There was one
Speaker 1: scrambled to the sideline in the second half where he
Speaker 1: looked like a guy with a leg brace, but otherwise
Speaker 1: he was Aaron rodd He also scrambed he wants a
Speaker 1: dove Ford and I got scared because I was like,
Speaker 1: he's throwing his body right into the alma. All right,
Speaker 1: moving on, This will be an attempt to thirty six
Speaker 1: yards by Brandon McManus for the wind snap place. M
Speaker 1: McManus has it up. That is done. Dave Logan ko
Speaker 1: A with the call Brandon mcmaddus in a day when
Speaker 1: no ticker seemed to have the onions to to put
Speaker 1: their team over the top, McManus that he got, he's
Speaker 1: snuck it inside the right, upright, thirty six yard field
Speaker 1: goal attempt with seconds to play, the deciding points for
Speaker 1: the Broncos in a twenty nineteen win over the Oakland
Speaker 1: Raiders at Mile High UH Mr shook. It looked it
Speaker 1: looked for a time that the Raiders were gonna grind
Speaker 1: this one out, but their offense stalled late in the
Speaker 1: fourth and then case Keenum made them pay. Gruden's grinders
Speaker 1: couldn't finish this this one off. It was kind of
Speaker 1: like last week and that, you know, they couldn't hang
Speaker 1: on to a lead, except they weren't playing the Rams.
Speaker 1: They were playing the Broncos, and and there was a
Speaker 1: point air in the fourth quarter where they got a
Speaker 1: contested first down and it looked like, you know what,
Speaker 1: this one's about to be over. But they couldn't ride
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch enough to close that game out. And case
Speaker 1: Keenum looked kind of like case Keenum of Minnesota last year,
Speaker 1: and moving the ball down the field, got it to
Speaker 1: a number of receivers and got down in the field
Speaker 1: goal range, and McManus drilled it through. On a day
Speaker 1: when it's been bad for kickers, I was happy to
Speaker 1: see one actually go through the air. They made it
Speaker 1: to the a f C playoff picture West is wide open,
Speaker 1: especially in the back end. Uh. These are the type
Speaker 1: of games that you that you can steal. That's a
Speaker 1: difference between eight and eight, nine and seven, ten and six.
Speaker 1: And the Broncos who are in this mix. Uh, that's
Speaker 1: a big win for them. It's a huge win for them.
Speaker 1: It's salvaged the A T N lock up segment for
Speaker 1: the week than actually, Greg, you had a locked in
Speaker 1: it you I locked the Steelers. West, thank you for
Speaker 1: coming through and this game I want to hear from
Speaker 1: Shook about one of my favorite players to watch. Do
Speaker 1: not compare your favorite scap back to Philip Lindsay, because
Speaker 1: he's better than whoever you're gonna talk about your Austin Ekelers.
Speaker 1: You're whoever. Philip Lindsay is better. He can run inside.
Speaker 1: How dare you bring up James White in the face
Speaker 1: of Philip Lindsay, way more complete back, a better runner.
Speaker 1: He's a better runner than Chris Thompson about that first
Speaker 1: set up show. No, he's He's absolutely right. He's the
Speaker 1: first player you get this to just disagree with West.
Speaker 1: We want to see what happens. I can't on this
Speaker 1: one and say lebron is better than Georgiana. I'm not
Speaker 1: going down there. And then between your massive bicep, Philip Lindsay,
Speaker 1: guy who wasn't invited to the Combine. Even though he's
Speaker 1: second most, he had the second most rushing guards in
Speaker 1: the history of Colorado football. Uh didn't get an invite
Speaker 1: to the Combine undrafted and became the first undrafted player
Speaker 1: to have a hundred plus yards from scrimmage his first
Speaker 1: two games in NFL history. He did it today with
Speaker 1: a hundred and seven yards on fourteen carries and looks
Speaker 1: he's like a jumpy running back. You know, he's a
Speaker 1: guy who gets through the hole, he gets a round
Speaker 1: a defender. He actually sets up blocker as well. He
Speaker 1: had a really nice run late in the game today.
Speaker 1: There's nobody really built like him. He's a little cut
Speaker 1: for a running back, but he's but he's muscular, but
Speaker 1: he can run inside. He's like if Cherry's Norwood had
Speaker 1: muscles back in the day. Wow, that's a deep grab there.
Speaker 1: John Gruden's sick, by the way. Yeah, this is a game.
Speaker 1: He looks so dejected. After the Monday night they were
Speaker 1: just outclassed in the second half, and after all the
Speaker 1: negative publicity tied to the Khalil Mack trade. This was
Speaker 1: setting up well a road win in your division, and
Speaker 1: they just could not close it out. That one. That's
Speaker 1: what keeps you up at night. I think that's what
Speaker 1: drove him out of the league, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: losses like that. I think there are two coaches in
Speaker 1: the league who really need to win or needed to
Speaker 1: win this week. One of them is Hugh Jackson. The
Speaker 1: other ones John Gruden. Oh, let's let's talk about do
Speaker 1: you want to stay on the show for one more games?
Speaker 1: Check you are filling in capably. Shout out to Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: There are some good things here for the Raiders. They
Speaker 1: were up nineteen seven with twenty minutes to go, a
Speaker 1: team that we mocked UH a week ago, and they
Speaker 1: and they did it. But yeah, saying I kind of
Speaker 1: just saying they had to feel some good things. I
Speaker 1: kind of want to stand up for Derek Carr because
Speaker 1: he took on his shoulders on the nose last week.
Speaker 1: He got blamed for it and was really good today.
Speaker 1: Derek Carr played like an m v P today, bing
Speaker 1: one more. Let's move on. Fifty two yard field goal attempt.
Speaker 1: He's missed too. He's made one and he's missed an
Speaker 1: extra point eight New Orleans step us back follows down,
Speaker 1: he's into an end over Randa kicker is no good
Speaker 1: with three seconds to go, Jim Donovan w k r
Speaker 1: K with the call Zane Gonzalez uh mrs a fifty
Speaker 1: one yard attempt final seconds of the game. He missed
Speaker 1: a lot of kicks in this game, and Will Luttz
Speaker 1: for the Saints live and on a forty four yard
Speaker 1: field goal with twenty one seconds to left left in
Speaker 1: the game, enough for the Saints to pull out win.
Speaker 1: Extends the Browns windless streak to nineteen games. Uh, he
Speaker 1: missed how many kicks today? Gaz two field goals and
Speaker 1: two extra points? Oh my god, my god, So you
Speaker 1: added up that's eight points left on the field and
Speaker 1: your thoughts shook on this one. This one had to hurt. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, as someone who grew up and watched the
Speaker 1: Browns blow a lot of leads and listen to Jim Donovan, uh,
Speaker 1: you know narrate those over the years, you have to
Speaker 1: expect that they will give up a lead, even in
Speaker 1: these quote unquote new era of Brown's football. But this one,
Speaker 1: this one ranks up there because, um, their defense has
Speaker 1: played good for two weeks now and their offense was
Speaker 1: doing enough to what looked like you know, it's set
Speaker 1: its set them up to have these field goal tries
Speaker 1: to extend the lead. You know, he makes two of
Speaker 1: those field goals and they've got eighteen points. And you know,
Speaker 1: prior to all this, the rest of that that touchdown
Speaker 1: that ended up tying the game, it looked like a
Speaker 1: team that was capable of going down to New Orleans
Speaker 1: and beating a st team that has underachieved so far
Speaker 1: and also lacks options offensively, which will get to in
Speaker 1: a second. But they couldn't do it again. And you,
Speaker 1: as much as you want to put it on the
Speaker 1: kicker because obviously misses two field goals and two extra
Speaker 1: points at the same time, what about the offense, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, chewing some clock because they had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to twice, went three and out one possession and then
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor threw a pick and the next one. So
Speaker 1: it's a total team fell to two thirds of the
Speaker 1: team failed in this afternoon, and the heartbreak is amplified
Speaker 1: by the fact that it comes just hours after we
Speaker 1: find out that the Browns are set to release or
Speaker 1: trade Josh Gordon after he came down with a hamstring
Speaker 1: injury and um away from the facility. I guess shooting
Speaker 1: some type of promote promotional shoot injured his leg. Team
Speaker 1: had questions about I don't know about a sobriety or
Speaker 1: just that he wasn't in the right headspace, and they
Speaker 1: I guess they finally ran out of patients and Josh Gordon,
Speaker 1: h greg what your thoughts on that is it was
Speaker 1: at the right time for the Browns or had they
Speaker 1: I mean, my my honest thought was unless there was
Speaker 1: a legitimate like relapse or something like that, and maybe
Speaker 1: there was. According to the dealer, it seemed like they
Speaker 1: believe the Browns are putting it out there that they
Speaker 1: believe that or that something wasn't right, which is a
Speaker 1: little which is a little irresponsible, And there's a lot
Speaker 1: of Browns side of things when this went down. I
Speaker 1: also can't kill them for giving up on this relationship
Speaker 1: after six years, like they've seen him every day up close.
Speaker 1: It's just a shame. The weird part, I think is
Speaker 1: all these other teams and the fans like, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: get Josh Gordon, like that's gonna do, and it's the
Speaker 1: guy who's barely played for five years. We talked about
Speaker 1: in the preseason, why is anyone counting on that a
Speaker 1: man is going to turn his life around when he's
Speaker 1: in a struggle that he hasn't been able to overcome.
Speaker 1: And you just can't assume that he has said in
Speaker 1: the past that he never played sober, that his issues
Speaker 1: with substance abuse go back to middle school. A guy
Speaker 1: with absolute problems. You hope that he gets his life
Speaker 1: on the right track. But the Browns decide they couldn't
Speaker 1: wait for him anymore getting back to this game, and
Speaker 1: this is shook. This is the most Brownsy thing possible,
Speaker 1: in the kind of like this is long for me anyway,
Speaker 1: and I think this room, we're all on the same page.
Speaker 1: It's gone way past whether you know the Browns stink,
Speaker 1: they're kind of the lovable losers. It's just at this
Speaker 1: point a tired narrative. You want the franchise to to
Speaker 1: exit this period, but they can't get out. I mean
Speaker 1: the perfect example was the Tyrod Taylor touchdown the tide
Speaker 1: the game a beautiful rainbow to Antonio callaway a guy
Speaker 1: that's a part of their future as well. It's one
Speaker 1: of the prettiest throws I can remember. Browns fans like
Speaker 1: you shook, You don't even get two minutes to enjoy
Speaker 1: that moment before the damn kicker blows it. Yep. You
Speaker 1: know how when you're watching you you know, you guys
Speaker 1: have kids, Uh, when you're watching a newborn learn to crawl,
Speaker 1: and before they crawl, you got a lamb on their
Speaker 1: stomach and they kind of put their face in the
Speaker 1: ground and they make some weird noises, baby noises, and
Speaker 1: eventually I believe they yeah, and they lift their head
Speaker 1: up and then actually they start to crawl. The Browns
Speaker 1: are in that state right now where they're just face
Speaker 1: down on the baby blanket. And maybe they'll get that
Speaker 1: one arm up and maybe they'll start to move, but
Speaker 1: right now they just can't get You hope, you hope,
Speaker 1: you hope that it doesn't You know, it can get
Speaker 1: better or it can get worse. We don't really know.
Speaker 1: It's impressive that they went down there and held the
Speaker 1: Saints the two seventy five yards. We were so confident
Speaker 1: that the Saints were gonna win this game that we said,
Speaker 1: you're not even allowed to lock lock this game up.
Speaker 1: But the reality is they outplayed the Saints for much
Speaker 1: of the game. They had their chances to win they've
Speaker 1: done some really good things defensively, But at the end
Speaker 1: of the game, when you see that look in Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackson's face like he needs to get a better poker face,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just feel bad for him. But
Speaker 1: he looks so dejected and so beaten down. It really
Speaker 1: reminds me of some of the moments in in in
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, and I'm thinking, like, he can't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see my head coach looking like
Speaker 1: the way he's looking late in that game. But can
Speaker 1: you blame him? I mean, he's been but it's not right,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. Well, let me just say, Uh, one
Speaker 1: thing I've never seen before. At the end of a
Speaker 1: football game, Zane Gonzalez misses the last kick. Uh. He's
Speaker 1: sitting on the bench, the cameras trained on him, the
Speaker 1: game's over. He's just on the bench and the opposing kicker,
Speaker 1: Will Let's runs across the field to offer him encouragement
Speaker 1: and consoles him and then runs off. That was painful.
Speaker 1: In American team sports, there is nothing like the psychological
Speaker 1: pressure on a kicker after a full day of what
Speaker 1: people on each side plane, everything comes down to one
Speaker 1: swing up your body one motion. The whole day comes
Speaker 1: down to that. And if you want to read the
Speaker 1: best article you can find on the psychology of kicking
Speaker 1: by Michael Lewis, the same guy who wrote The blind Side.
Speaker 1: I tweeted it today. The kick is up and It's
Speaker 1: a career killer is the name of the article from
Speaker 1: the New York Times two thousand seven. It's a great
Speaker 1: read on kicker. It's funny too, because you know he
Speaker 1: missed that extra point to the left, which is how
Speaker 1: he missed a field goal earlier, so that when he
Speaker 1: misses the long try at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: pushes it to the right. Saint thing to get it together.
Speaker 1: By the way, they really I don't hate getting too
Speaker 1: deep into the psychological stuff, but they do seem like
Speaker 1: the team that just was a little too full of themselves,
Speaker 1: a little too confident, and they are lucky that they're
Speaker 1: one and one, though in the end it kind of
Speaker 1: hasn't mattered. They have they have the pieces to play better,
Speaker 1: but they have played two stinkers offensively. They miss mark
Speaker 1: ingram and it's pretty evident. All right, Chuck, you deserve
Speaker 1: that win today. Mark Sessler deserved that win today, And
Speaker 1: maybe you will get one soon, but I hope not
Speaker 1: Thursday against the Jet I think that's the turning point.
Speaker 1: The Browns soldier on Chook, thank you for jumping in.
Speaker 1: You were awesome as you always are. Thanks. Thanks. Let's
Speaker 1: move up cly formation. Now what are you? Fullback slash
Speaker 1: h back Fatter wants so deep down in the field.
Speaker 1: It goes towards Shorty Till authority for San jacksonsity Chad
Speaker 1: five on first player of the game touchdown travel, Wow,
Speaker 1: fire parlor, carotive. Oh, it's gonna be a big year
Speaker 1: for a Gene decker Hoff of w F You s
Speaker 1: Bryan Fitzpatrick through for more than four hundred yards and
Speaker 1: four touchdowns for the second time in seven days, leading
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Bucks over the Eagles, the defending champs
Speaker 1: on Sunday in Tampa West fits magic both on the
Speaker 1: field and that the postgame press conference podium is dripping.
Speaker 1: Did I use that team slank correctly? Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think you want to turn to me as the authority
Speaker 1: for that. I know That's why I thought it'd be
Speaker 1: funny to turn to you as the authority. But he
Speaker 1: did own the moment after you, After he's like that
Speaker 1: and go to the podium looking like Connor McGregor. You're
Speaker 1: you're owning the moment, and I think this team is
Speaker 1: in love with him. Ten seconds into the game, they're
Speaker 1: up seven to nothing on a seventy five yard touchdown
Speaker 1: before halftime, he becomes the first quarterback in Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: history to throw to seventy five yard touchdown play. And
Speaker 1: then by the end of the game, he's the first
Speaker 1: quarterback in franchise history to have two consecutive games of
Speaker 1: four four touchdown passes. And the whole time I'm watching
Speaker 1: this game, I'm thinking the Super Bowl champions, as they're
Speaker 1: currently composed with the injuries on their roster, have no
Speaker 1: prayer of keeping up with the firepower that Fitzpatrick, just
Speaker 1: like we all predicted, right, the hardest statistical start to
Speaker 1: a season in NFL history in terms of opponents winning percentage.
Speaker 1: The Bucks having to face the Saints, Eagles, and Steelers
Speaker 1: next week and they are to and oh and Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick has eight touchdowns and thirteen in completions in two weeks.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy thing as well, he is and he's
Speaker 1: throwing balls up. That's the difference is he's he's throwing
Speaker 1: seventy twenty yarders. I was really impressed late in the game.
Speaker 1: The final scores only one, but both teams were over
Speaker 1: four yards. This was another offense heavy day. I was
Speaker 1: really impressed, like misleading late in the Gagles couldn't move
Speaker 1: the ball for a large section to this game. When
Speaker 1: the Bucks got the ball back though with three minutes
Speaker 1: to go, and that those are kind of the key
Speaker 1: snaps of the game. Fitzpatrick is thrown a deep out
Speaker 1: to the entire opposite side of the field on third down.
Speaker 1: He's sitting a slant on third and seven. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't just the long touchdowns, it was those clutch third
Speaker 1: down throws with the game on the line against a
Speaker 1: team that should be getting some pass rush on him. No,
Speaker 1: he was clean. Fletcher Cox I think got him once,
Speaker 1: but he was clean. I think he's only been sacked
Speaker 1: one time in two games. As from his Jets years,
Speaker 1: that was one thing he was always good at. He
Speaker 1: gets the rid of the ball quickly. Even if you
Speaker 1: don't have a good offensive line. He's somebody that can
Speaker 1: bail you out and keep you from having a game
Speaker 1: where you get sacked six times. Sometimes he gets it
Speaker 1: out so quickly he just throws it to the other team,
Speaker 1: and you play Ryan Fitzpatrick long enough, that might end
Speaker 1: up happening. But you also, and with Jamis Winston due
Speaker 1: to come back in two weeks now, you also could
Speaker 1: be in a situation where Fitzpatrick gets hot for a
Speaker 1: couple of months. And now it seems very like, very
Speaker 1: possible and perhaps likely that Ryan Fitzpatrick is gonna keep
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston on the bench. It would probably be shocked
Speaker 1: if it would take like a meltdown next week. Right,
Speaker 1: It's gonna take a slump of more than one game.
Speaker 1: I think for Fitzpatrick to come out of this lineup.
Speaker 1: I do not think that Jamis Winston is going to
Speaker 1: be the starter, like as soon as he gets back
Speaker 1: from suspension. I don't think there's any chance of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they Peton Barber and jo Quiz Rodgers had
Speaker 1: twenty one rush is for thirty five yards, and they
Speaker 1: still win this game. One thing in defense of the Eagles,
Speaker 1: they enter this game without their starting quarterback, without the
Speaker 1: number one receiver, and by the end of the first
Speaker 1: quarter they lose Mike Wallace, their deep threat. They lose
Speaker 1: j G I e they're starting running back. They lose
Speaker 1: Jason Peters, their left tackle, and then Jason Pierre Paul
Speaker 1: kick the crap out of Viti for a while there,
Speaker 1: so that they They're injuries really were a factor in
Speaker 1: this game. They're they're lucky they stole the Eagles. That
Speaker 1: is last week's game. Let's stay in the NFC South.
Speaker 1: Here's Ryan looks left, Matt now dances out of the
Speaker 1: pocket to his left. Scott Hooper, now he's gonna talk
Speaker 1: and run, and Matt Ryan scores at Atlanta touchdown for
Speaker 1: number two. Hop out the effort to get at the
Speaker 1: insole West Durham w z g C. With the call,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan threw two touchdowns. He ran for two more.
Speaker 1: That's the first time he's ever done that, leaving the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons to a win over the Panthers. Greg Rose
Speaker 1: withtal that's more like it for the Falcons offense, who
Speaker 1: actually cashed in on numerous red zone opportunities. I love
Speaker 1: when week two destroy some of the Week one storylines.
Speaker 1: They were four for four in the red zone today,
Speaker 1: so they were perfect. Well, we'll have to see over
Speaker 1: the course of the season whether they stay perfect. But
Speaker 1: listening to that highlight reminded me how the secondary players
Speaker 1: really carried the day for the Falcons. I think that's
Speaker 1: a great sign long term. Austin Hooper had a big game,
Speaker 1: including that touchdown. Calvin Ridley had a big game, uh,
Speaker 1: including a touchdown. You know, Smith looked really looked really
Speaker 1: good and made me think they're not resigning Tevin Coleman,
Speaker 1: or they're gonna have to move on from one of
Speaker 1: their running backs. Devanti Freeman wasn't healthy for today's game,
Speaker 1: but edo Smith looked like a guy who maybe next
Speaker 1: year we're going to be here in a lot more.
Speaker 1: Louis Cannon let's cannon blast some of those Week one
Speaker 1: narratives courtesy of Week two goodbye Week one narratives, or
Speaker 1: most of them got a load eighteenth century technology. Oh man,
Speaker 1: that destructive immunition. Matt Ryan has a sneaky dominant history
Speaker 1: against the Panthers. Every time he plays him, he just
Speaker 1: lights lights running. What makes it sneaky as opposed to
Speaker 1: just like regular because no one really pays attention to
Speaker 1: the Panthers rivalry. I mean, I didn't know about that baby,
Speaker 1: I'm like obsessed with it. I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: good sign that Cam Newton has been their leading rusher
Speaker 1: two straight weeks. He's forty two yards today lead the team.
Speaker 1: But I do have an appo to be the Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey breakout season. I mean he Christian McCaffrey had fourteen
Speaker 1: catches for a hundred and two yards and he's he's
Speaker 1: between the tackles, can run between the tackles, Rose they
Speaker 1: he hasn't been doing it too much. But I do
Speaker 1: have an update for you. I thought you would be
Speaker 1: interested after two weeks of play. Cam Newton's completion percentages. Oh,
Speaker 1: please say sixty six? Please say six? Nice? See West, Hey,
Speaker 1: it's time to write a mia colpla uh a t
Speaker 1: N post. Listen, norv I took North to task back
Speaker 1: in May, but he proved himself well to cannon blast
Speaker 1: that narrative well as long as the first two weeks
Speaker 1: mean everything. Bryan Fitzpatrick's going to be the m v
Speaker 1: P this year, and the Jaguars have found their franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Falcons, that was a deeply frustrating Week
Speaker 1: one loss, and from the narrative standpoint, like everything that
Speaker 1: people were upset and up in arms about throughout the offseason.
Speaker 1: When the same thing happens in week one, it becomes
Speaker 1: a double down scenario. So I would think Steve sarkisian,
Speaker 1: some people won't sleep well tonight. Sark will good for
Speaker 1: him in the Falcons home crowd, I think getting in
Speaker 1: that stadium getting to be a real advantage. They ran
Speaker 1: the ball really well. Tevin Coleman also ran well, and
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a tough out. They were
Speaker 1: a little unlucky not to be too and know, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a very tough out in Atlanta. Uh,
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Speaker 1: call and a very good call on a very well
Speaker 1: executed trick play for the Titans who got on the
Speaker 1: board of that. Ryan suck Up kicked the thirty one
Speaker 1: yard field goal one minute to play and the Titans
Speaker 1: beat up as they are held off the Texansen. Mike
Speaker 1: Frabel gets his first coach win in the NFL as
Speaker 1: a head coach, UH, coming at the expense of the
Speaker 1: team that he worked with for four years prior to
Speaker 1: getting the gig. Now we welcome Jeremy Bergman. I'd call
Speaker 1: him Burgo. What's up, buddy? The Titans were beat up
Speaker 1: and missing their starting quarterback. It's a bad sign that
Speaker 1: the Texans gonna take care of business, isn't it. It's
Speaker 1: a real missed opportunity for the Texans. Bling Gabet started
Speaker 1: Uh instead of Marx Mariota, who still did not have
Speaker 1: feeling in his hands. We came into this game thinking
Speaker 1: that they were going to maybe split s apps today.
Speaker 1: That's that was the report yesterday and that was totally bogus.
Speaker 1: We figured that out by the first drive. It was
Speaker 1: on that at the end of that first drive that
Speaker 1: the tech the Titans tried that fake punt uh touchdown.
Speaker 1: Kevin Byer to Dane Crookshank. Shank one of the best
Speaker 1: names in the in the league. By there is an
Speaker 1: artery on the west side of town in Cincinnati called Crookshank.
Speaker 1: One of one of the streets you called Crooker Shank
Speaker 1: because either way it's kind of a win. I uh
Speaker 1: shank probably, But the stat of the day was that
Speaker 1: Krookshank ended up being the Titans leading receiver when Patch
Speaker 1: sixty six yards in a touchdown. That was the case
Speaker 1: with the Titans on the day. The past run breakdown
Speaker 1: was twenty three to thirty four, and the running backs
Speaker 1: were not effective. They had to resort to some trickery
Speaker 1: like that. They had Derrick Henry and the Wildcat at points,
Speaker 1: but nobody was really effective. It was really the Texans
Speaker 1: missing an opportunity. Uh with Will furl With Will Fuller
Speaker 1: back in the starting lineup coming back from an injury
Speaker 1: last week, uh Fuller and Hopkins both went over a hundred.
Speaker 1: They both scored a touchdown, and yet Titans found a
Speaker 1: way to win there o and two. Now the Texans
Speaker 1: and we I think we talked about this a lot
Speaker 1: during the summer that the Texans were a very you know,
Speaker 1: high ceiling, low floor team and getting off to an
Speaker 1: own two start is not, uh pointing in the right
Speaker 1: direction and frustration perhaps setting in as well. Let's hear
Speaker 1: what J. J. Watt had to say when he was
Speaker 1: asked one of those kind of dumb questions that sometimes
Speaker 1: journalists asked ask after a game because you're just trying
Speaker 1: to set up the guy to talk and uh, Mr
Speaker 1: Justin James took exception, you started the two before, We're
Speaker 1: going to come back to make a play off your mindset? No,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give up. I mean, what do you
Speaker 1: what kind of answer do you want there? I mean, yeah, obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm we're gonna go to work, We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: learn from the steaks. But I mean, I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: that's that's a ridiculous question. I could see how frustrating
Speaker 1: that would be for J. J. Watt. He didn't really
Speaker 1: show up on the stat sheet for the second week
Speaker 1: in a row to Davey and Clowney did play little
Speaker 1: Burgron and after he was in the backfield, but he
Speaker 1: didn't register a sack. I got Burgertron in that one
Speaker 1: on one battle, surprisedly lock it up. Yeah, exactly, my
Speaker 1: five six frame going. The only man who might be
Speaker 1: as small as me that's ever been in the studio
Speaker 1: wearing a beautiful sweatshirt which says Hebrew Orphan Asylum. Can
Speaker 1: you just explain that for that's the guy that I
Speaker 1: got in the J. J. Watt one on one time.
Speaker 1: I had to write my alma honor today. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Hebrew or from Asylum. It's actually like an old baseball
Speaker 1: team from the twenties or something nice. But yeah, Damon
Speaker 1: Clowney out with back in elbow injuries. It's a missed
Speaker 1: opportunity because the Titans were missing their starting two tackles.
Speaker 1: You would have thought that would blame Gabbard back there
Speaker 1: and their third tackle Dennis Kelly. Like, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of tack I gotta win this game, Houston. They had
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty more yards than the time. John mccleand
Speaker 1: I wasn't following his Twitter handle he must have had.
Speaker 1: He was melting down on that on that fake punt
Speaker 1: and early in the game, oh my god, the offense
Speaker 1: besides the offense of line, Shaun Watson was sacked four
Speaker 1: times and hit nine. It's still a problem. How did
Speaker 1: Watson look in general? Did you think Watson like last week?
Speaker 1: He still held onto the ball a little long after
Speaker 1: suck Up kicked the field goal. At the end of
Speaker 1: the game, the Texans had a drive, they were going
Speaker 1: down the field. They were on their own forty eight
Speaker 1: yard line with seventeen seconds left. Watson dropped back and
Speaker 1: then rolled out to his right, and he spent the
Speaker 1: entire seventeen seconds waiting for a play to develop and
Speaker 1: then through it in the middle of the field to
Speaker 1: the DeAndre Hopkins with no time outs time ran out.
Speaker 1: He said that his instincts took over and uh, he
Speaker 1: would have if he had gone back, he would have,
Speaker 1: you know, done it differently. But um, it's a missed
Speaker 1: opportunity for Houston who play They get their home up
Speaker 1: in her against the Giants next week. Those are learning
Speaker 1: experiences for Watson. You can't expect him to treat the
Speaker 1: end of games like he's Tom Brady, right, and it's
Speaker 1: just striking. I think because he was so electric last
Speaker 1: year and watching them was so electric that these first
Speaker 1: two weeks are just more reminiscent of his first two
Speaker 1: appearances last year, where that it took them a little
Speaker 1: while to get going, and you hope that they end
Speaker 1: up getting going this year and are more fun to watch,
Speaker 1: because this game I feel like kind of barely existed
Speaker 1: on the NFL radar. This was kind of no one
Speaker 1: was really paying attention. You when you hear a crazy stut.
Speaker 1: I just looked this up on Pro Football Reference. J J.
Speaker 1: Watts last sack in the NFL. It's like two and
Speaker 1: a half years ago. Oh my god, it's uh September eighteenth,
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen, So we're coming up on two
Speaker 1: years years five five years, five games. Last year. He's
Speaker 1: been shut out so far this year. Not a good start.
Speaker 1: One more crazy stat. Lamar Miller, who we haven't really
Speaker 1: been talking about through two games, has four point nine
Speaker 1: yards per carry. There's my boy. I was waiting for him.
Speaker 1: He burned me last year, later costs me sandwiches, and
Speaker 1: now he turns it on whatever. Lamar Miller, I give
Speaker 1: you no credit. Let's move on second down. And one
Speaker 1: ball in the right hash at the Arizona eleven gives
Speaker 1: to Girly. He bounced his right side at the Printers
Speaker 1: stick on Curly gets in touchdowns Curly. What a mess
Speaker 1: this game was. J. B. Long KESPN with there you go.
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley rushed for just forty two yards, but he
Speaker 1: scored three touchdowns. Is the Rams roll to a thirty
Speaker 1: four to zip win over the hapless Arizona Cardiner Cardinals
Speaker 1: at the L. A. Calse and Burgo Burgertron First Basement
Speaker 1: of the Hebrew Orpan Asylum. The Cardinals have been outscored
Speaker 1: fifty eight six and back to back losses to start
Speaker 1: the season. It has to be Josh Rosen time. No,
Speaker 1: probably the bench coach, but we'll go with first baseman. Uh,
Speaker 1: it could be. It could be Josh Rosen time. I
Speaker 1: would say it's not all Sam Bradford's fault. There's a
Speaker 1: lot going on on that or Arizona get that. Nobody
Speaker 1: doing well. I get it. They have one more home
Speaker 1: game and then after that, I think you can maybe
Speaker 1: consider going to Josh Rosen. This thing was over from
Speaker 1: the second drive of the second quarter. Uh. The Rams
Speaker 1: started slowly again as they did against Oakland, but they
Speaker 1: scored nineteen points in the second quarter. Gurley was not
Speaker 1: getting a going. Actually a pretty good rush defense with
Speaker 1: Corey Peters upfront for the Cardinals. But Golf had a
Speaker 1: really good game. Found Brandon Cook's deep. He's clearly the
Speaker 1: He's clearly better than Sammy Watkins was at this point.
Speaker 1: Last year, Woods and Cup also had big games. And uh,
Speaker 1: let me let me read you a little poem that
Speaker 1: I wrote out. Wow really taking Sessler's Uh, I mean,
Speaker 1: I will say this wasn't really creative. It's the setup
Speaker 1: that's creative. It's called um Cardinals drives, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt,
Speaker 1: punt interception, end of game. That iambic pentameter. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: That's that was beautiful. Thank you. That was sexy. I
Speaker 1: did see that they didn't cross midfield until the second
Speaker 1: to last play of the game. You just don't see
Speaker 1: in the NFL they only have five first downs. I'd
Speaker 1: like to find out when was the last time a
Speaker 1: team had five or less first downs in an entire game,
Speaker 1: because that's something five first downs, two of them came
Speaker 1: on the final drive right into nowhere. You just you
Speaker 1: just don't see that. And the Rams out to thirteen
Speaker 1: last week thirty four and nothing this week. They've got
Speaker 1: three receivers on pace to get about thirteen hundred yards.
Speaker 1: It's like this is a super team. This they it's
Speaker 1: Super Bowl er bust for an l A football team.
Speaker 1: Let's move on, tone hillow here comes an all outflits
Speaker 1: Towne Hill hunder pressure dumps it left put by core
Speaker 1: No One home for the Kip. He's up the field
Speaker 1: inside the thirty five, inside the thirty down to the
Speaker 1: Jet first town twenty yards on third and nineteen, an
Speaker 1: absolute backbreaker for the Jets. Oh John t w E
Speaker 1: p N Bob was choosing with a call that was
Speaker 1: a fitting play with the Jets. On Sunday, Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: throw two touchdown passes. Frank Gore had that big third
Speaker 1: and forever reception that really kind of locked the game
Speaker 1: up for Miami and the Miami dolpins uh cruise to
Speaker 1: a twenty twelve win over the New York Jets at
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium. Virgo, you and I are both l s
Speaker 1: JF long suffering Jets fans, frustrating loss. But let's be
Speaker 1: honest not overly shocking after that glory boyfest in Detroit
Speaker 1: on Monday. This is just how it goes. No, I
Speaker 1: think everybody in New York got a little a little
Speaker 1: too high off of that that wind. There was a
Speaker 1: well that never happened. A lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: things went right in that wind that did not go
Speaker 1: right here. Uh. Sam Donald bounced back from that pick
Speaker 1: six last week with a couple of great drives. This week,
Speaker 1: he contributed to or took away fourteen points on two interceptions.
Speaker 1: The first one led to one of Miami's first touchdowns.
Speaker 1: The second one could have brought the Jets within six,
Speaker 1: but on the first play of the drive through a
Speaker 1: post into the end zone, Tarrell Prior apparently didn't run
Speaker 1: toward the ball. He apologized after the game. Uh, that
Speaker 1: was the biggest play of the game. It was at
Speaker 1: that point they had gotten to within what was six.
Speaker 1: Then we're talking about twelve minutes of playing the third quarter.
Speaker 1: Miami turns it over first and ten from the twelve
Speaker 1: and on the first play, Donald jams it in there
Speaker 1: and gets picked off and the air went out of
Speaker 1: that stadium. This is the biggest Jets home opener in
Speaker 1: a long time in terms of how exciting Monday Night was,
Speaker 1: all the build up when Donald so for them to
Speaker 1: fall behind the way they did and never really be
Speaker 1: able to make plays and continuously shoot themselves in the foot. Uh,
Speaker 1: this was a classic classic Jets game and Donald I
Speaker 1: locked this one up. So I'm now oh and two.
Speaker 1: The defending champ is struggling. But uh, Donald had listen,
Speaker 1: He's twenty one. There's gonna be games like this. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm not even that dejected, because I know there
Speaker 1: will be Sundays like this throughout the season. You just
Speaker 1: want to see growth as the season progresses. But the
Speaker 1: interceptions were killer. And at the end of the half,
Speaker 1: again another would have, could have, should have? Uh they
Speaker 1: botched the time. Uh near the goal line at Miami.
Speaker 1: He throws short of the goal line and they get
Speaker 1: tackled at the one and they get no points out
Speaker 1: of it. More deflation. So very frustrating loss. And on
Speaker 1: the Dolphins side, that is a nice win by a team.
Speaker 1: I know that Dolphins aren't exciting, and I'm not sold
Speaker 1: on Ryan Townehill generally, even in a game like today
Speaker 1: where the stats look okay, he's met but I think
Speaker 1: that this team is gonna hang around there now too.
Speaker 1: And oh, they're all alone in first place in the
Speaker 1: a f C East, which doesn't mean anything, but I
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins are gonna be in the mix here
Speaker 1: whether we like it or not. Uh. The Dolphins have
Speaker 1: the Raiders next week at home and that is a
Speaker 1: that is a possible win. And then Week four is
Speaker 1: Dolphins at Patriots for a f C East. Uh. Quarter
Speaker 1: poles supremacy not quarter polo. The Dolphins were out gained
Speaker 1: by a hundred here, but there is opportunity for the
Speaker 1: second place or even you know, a first place team
Speaker 1: in any team in this division. The easiest schedule in
Speaker 1: the league, just by going into this season, we're all
Speaker 1: a f C East teams because they're playing each other
Speaker 1: in the out of division schedule isn't to challenge. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna win that many games where you have two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven yards of offense, which the Dolphins
Speaker 1: did in in New York today, so or New Jersey,
Speaker 1: I think, I think if you're a Jets fan, you
Speaker 1: can't be too. This is a kind of a weird game.
Speaker 1: Is front running Fireman Egg going to slink back into
Speaker 1: his arm. Ed's catching a ton of heat. Should you know?
Speaker 1: I have to say I'm one of the Jet fans
Speaker 1: that don't kill fire minute. He still goes to every game,
Speaker 1: doesn't he Yeah, he's a season ticket aholder. He just
Speaker 1: moved the section and said he didn't want to be
Speaker 1: leading the chant any taking over press up as a five.
Speaker 1: But know what your viewpoint is, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: fake news, I guess is what it is is what
Speaker 1: most people think is that he just stopped going to
Speaker 1: games and now he just popped up after Monday night.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean that guy, what a pillar pill.
Speaker 1: We'll see how quickly they Jets turn it around. They're
Speaker 1: playing the community. They're playing the Browns on a short
Speaker 1: week on Thursday night. I'm not you guys already went
Speaker 1: over the Browns game. Maybe we see Baker Mayfield if
Speaker 1: on a short one and that's a tough that's a
Speaker 1: tough ask. That would be nice, That would be nice.
Speaker 1: But how about how about that Frank Gore play picking
Speaker 1: that up? It was a little grounder and he picked
Speaker 1: it up like Alvaro Espanosa. There's a reference. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Most people don't make that play. The
Speaker 1: fourth all time leading rusher in NFL history. Now he
Speaker 1: passed Curtis Martin House in the house that Martin built.
Speaker 1: He didn't build that. I think that was mostly the
Speaker 1: Mayras and Johnson family. I just know what a what
Speaker 1: a pro I am because because I know you have
Speaker 1: this little man boy crush on Frank Gore, I cut
Speaker 1: that just for you. I wanted you to enjoy that moment.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thank you, Dan. All right. Hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: do you have any other negative comments about New York firefighters,
Speaker 1: the real especially on this week? I mean the real
Speaker 1: fighter fighters don't look for attention, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Discussed humming Burgo, Thank you buddy. Thanks boys. Five. Why
Speaker 1: the pattern here for Andrew Luck, hero bron with this
Speaker 1: second touchdown in his many games and the cult strike
Speaker 1: first we need in the pretty quarters narrative, Andrew Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1: Sorry the call there by Matt Eller. Uh w f
Speaker 1: I Andrew Luck shook off two interceptions, march down the field,
Speaker 1: second two touchdowns in the game. He helps the Colts
Speaker 1: beat the Washington Redskins twenty one nine. Uh. That's the
Speaker 1: first one of the season for the coltson and Andrew
Speaker 1: Lux first winning sometime. As we know, West, all the
Speaker 1: worries about number twelve NFL future now feels safely in
Speaker 1: the rear view. He looks like Andrew Luck has always
Speaker 1: looked great. Came out on the opening drive. It was
Speaker 1: a beautiful opening drive. His ball placement was uncanny on
Speaker 1: that opening drive, and then for a while the offense
Speaker 1: kind of went in the tank, as you would expect,
Speaker 1: without his left tackle, without much of a running game,
Speaker 1: and with basically only t Y Hilton to move the
Speaker 1: chains up and down the field. He likes Ebron in
Speaker 1: the red zone, but he relies a lot on t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton, and he was undermanned in this game and
Speaker 1: outplayed Alex Smith. I would give a vote early on
Speaker 1: at just like the most impressive new coach to me,
Speaker 1: to Frank Reik, not that any of him won last week.
Speaker 1: But when you watched the col they they're just transformed.
Speaker 1: They are totally different offense. You could see it in
Speaker 1: week one. I bet you can see in defense and
Speaker 1: defense Matt Aberflus or however we're pronouncing his name, Rob
Speaker 1: Bryan went Eberus. He has turned Marcus Hunt the Eastern bloc,
Speaker 1: formerly a hard knocks star into a guy who was
Speaker 1: throwing offensive linemen around, knocking running backs for losses, stacking
Speaker 1: quarterback and Darius Leonard, their second round pick out of
Speaker 1: small school South Carolina State, eighteen tackles today, a sack,
Speaker 1: a force fumble with the game on the line and
Speaker 1: the Redskins driving, he forced a fumble on Jordan Reed.
Speaker 1: This defense came to play today and yeah, it sounds
Speaker 1: like the defense sort of dominated. Adrian Peterson held the
Speaker 1: twenty yards on eleven carry, so they're running game didn't
Speaker 1: get anything going. And and one of the reasons I
Speaker 1: think everyone seems to like Reich afterwards, he's dancing in
Speaker 1: the locker room. Jim Mercy is dancing, And there was
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about the three yard passed from
Speaker 1: Luck to Hilton that kind of put the game away.
Speaker 1: And that was a play they practiced throughout the weekend
Speaker 1: and they knew if they get into a spot where
Speaker 1: they absolutely need a touchdown, that's the play that they're
Speaker 1: gonna call. And these are the types of stories that
Speaker 1: you can write when Frank Reich is your head coach.
Speaker 1: He breaks it out. The defense had no clue. It
Speaker 1: was a super creative play. Reminded me of something you
Speaker 1: would have seen with the Eagles last year. Game over
Speaker 1: Redskins a little frisky in week one. Now they take
Speaker 1: a step back, So we gotta reassess where the Skins
Speaker 1: are because we were say a little feisty. One game
Speaker 1: is not gonna kill me. But yeah, this was not
Speaker 1: a good The Jordany Bumba was big. Paul Richardson had
Speaker 1: a big drop over the middle on a third down
Speaker 1: that was big. They just had a few errors and
Speaker 1: they didn't seem like they could handle this. Sounds so
Speaker 1: weird after the first week. Didn't seem like they could
Speaker 1: handle the Colts physical toughness in this game. And where
Speaker 1: were the fans? By the way, cults are a different team.
Speaker 1: Yeah that the announced crowd was fifty eight thousand, which
Speaker 1: is almost twenty thousand down from a year ago. Rights,
Speaker 1: where was everybody? Washington seems a little out on the
Speaker 1: Redskins right now, which is surprising after what they did
Speaker 1: the first week. Foh, it's been a rough couple of
Speaker 1: decades for Redskins fans. Let's move up. Matthew looks rolls right,
Speaker 1: comes back left sets in pros got it to THEO
Speaker 1: in and out of his hands today complete again hit
Speaker 1: him in the head, but he couldn't hang on it.
Speaker 1: Down to forty eight yard line of San Francisco and
Speaker 1: this game's over. Dan Miller w J A. R with
Speaker 1: the call THEO Riddic a nightmare final drive for Detroit
Speaker 1: where two passes clanked off his hands when the lines
Speaker 1: are trying to get into field, covid his position, so
Speaker 1: they couldn't. They fall thirty to to the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty Niners. Uh at that big ball bottom. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is a game Jimmy Garoppolo through two touchdowns, Matt Rida
Speaker 1: ran for one thirty eight. Uh and the Niners after
Speaker 1: that tough loss of the Vikings in Week one, get
Speaker 1: up W West. I have to be honest. I saw
Speaker 1: none of this game. So I'm gonna lean on whoever
Speaker 1: in here lean on me West, all right, I'll take
Speaker 1: you through it all. Uh that the forty Niners looked?
Speaker 1: Are the Lions look dead and buried in this game
Speaker 1: at thirty and to their credit and to Matt Patricia's credit,
Speaker 1: I have to say, because nobody had a worse week
Speaker 1: when the Matt Patricia, this team fell behind in a
Speaker 1: tough environment against a potentially good team, and they chipped away.
Speaker 1: They battled back, got it to thirty seven, got the
Speaker 1: stop they needed to get the ball back. And uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, if Riddick doesn't drop us, he's one of
Speaker 1: the best receiving backs in the NFL. He went right
Speaker 1: through his hands. They would have had a field and
Speaker 1: that came and I believe the play before when he
Speaker 1: had a he had room to run in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field. That would have put them right on
Speaker 1: the cusp of field goal range. It wasn't all on
Speaker 1: theo Reddick. Uh. Matt Stafford. Uh. Statistically, Uh, let's see
Speaker 1: what he did stats and three is just like to do.
Speaker 1: And when you boys, and I know you are the scientists,
Speaker 1: when you fire of this game up on game pass,
Speaker 1: you're going to be surprised, nay, stunned by how many
Speaker 1: balls Matt Stafford missed downfield. Uh. He he did not
Speaker 1: cash in a numerous big play opportunities. And uh, even
Speaker 1: though the numbers were better, and obviously he was better
Speaker 1: than he was against the Jets when maybe they were
Speaker 1: the New York was stealing the signs, but he threw
Speaker 1: four picks and just looked terrible. Uh, he was better
Speaker 1: in this game, but he's still not looking like the
Speaker 1: met Stafford that we saw uh with Jim Bob Cooter
Speaker 1: in the last two seasons. Here's what worries me about
Speaker 1: the forty Niners. And I went back and watched that
Speaker 1: Week one game and their offensive line was atrocious, just
Speaker 1: all absolutely dominated by the vikings, which happens, it's the vikings.
Speaker 1: But then in this game, the Lions sacked Garoppolo six times.
Speaker 1: Jimmy g after the game said a lot of those
Speaker 1: were his fault. I don't know if that was just
Speaker 1: him being a leader and trying to take the blame,
Speaker 1: because that sounds like the type of thing that that
Speaker 1: he would do. He also had an interception on on
Speaker 1: their last drive that was called back. It was a
Speaker 1: really a key play for them. Bailed out on that.
Speaker 1: It's nice to the forty Niners are winning games as
Speaker 1: they're kind of going through these you know, learning current.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is still a team that should be
Speaker 1: fairly early in their development, so that the fact that
Speaker 1: they can sneak a game out where a lot of
Speaker 1: things went wrong is good. Garoppolo look good, not great.
Speaker 1: You have to be happy and excited if uh they
Speaker 1: lose Jack McKinnon and then they go for a hundred
Speaker 1: ninety yards rushing in this game. So they've been able to,
Speaker 1: at least for one week, UH mitigate the loss of McKinnon.
Speaker 1: And that sixty six yard touchdown run for Brito was
Speaker 1: I believe the longest uh for the Niners. They found
Speaker 1: something in the rookie linebacker Fred Werner. I thought to
Speaker 1: night about he had another another active day. He was
Speaker 1: the most impressive defensive rookie of week one. I thought
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Speaker 1: now inside the red zone from the twenty offset I
Speaker 1: motion man is Tyrrelle Williams hand off to Gordon. He's
Speaker 1: got room left side outside the numbers ten five touchdown Chargers.
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon were the twenty yard run. The Chargers gave
Speaker 1: him a little bit of the voice of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, Matt Money Smith kf I with the
Speaker 1: call and some other guys started talking about that doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: The Chargers were the lucky team that drew the Bills
Speaker 1: in Week two, and they made the most of it
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. Melvin Gordon matched a career hide three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Philip rivers through for three scores, posting a passer rating
Speaker 1: north of one forty. The Bolts have your heart again,
Speaker 1: greg Or, is it just you know? Bill? I never
Speaker 1: they never lost my heart. This is gonna be a
Speaker 1: fun team to watch whenever Philip rivers and get three
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the first twenty minutes. I mean, okay, you
Speaker 1: know you got a tough team with the Chiefs coming,
Speaker 1: and maybe you lose that game. But if you want
Speaker 1: a team to go on the road and beat a
Speaker 1: hapless also ran like the Bills that Chargers are your team?
Speaker 1: What a cell? So they get if you got a
Speaker 1: really bad team, we got a team for you to
Speaker 1: take care of. Two weeks into this season. I'm as
Speaker 1: excited about them offensively as I went at They put
Speaker 1: up thirty yards. I'm a little worried about the defense,
Speaker 1: but we'll have to see. Are you still trying to
Speaker 1: convince us that the Bills aren't that bad? All I
Speaker 1: said was the NFL is a is a crazy You
Speaker 1: made the same argument that the Browns had no chance
Speaker 1: that the Bills the Bills in the car. I think
Speaker 1: the Bills are even worse than that they almost covered.
Speaker 1: In the end, it was thirty one to twenty. Josh
Speaker 1: Allen does seem like he's better. They got blown out
Speaker 1: of the water. The most the most memorable thing about
Speaker 1: this game, though, will be that one of the players
Speaker 1: retired at halftime. Vante Davis, who has had a nice
Speaker 1: career in the NFL over I believe about eight or
Speaker 1: nine seasons, had bounced around in recent years, was with
Speaker 1: Buffalo and at halftime he decided to want to play anymore.
Speaker 1: So he said his heart wasn't in it, and he
Speaker 1: quit football. Not the game, not just the game or
Speaker 1: the team, the entire thing. Uh. He released a statement
Speaker 1: after the game explaining why he made that decision. In
Speaker 1: the statement itself was kind of surreal, uh in how
Speaker 1: a package it was on social media. Very strange situation,
Speaker 1: as you might imagine the Bills who were going through
Speaker 1: stuff right now, this is the last thing they want
Speaker 1: to have to be asked about after another humbling loss.
Speaker 1: Here's the Lorenzo Alexander had to say on the Vante
Speaker 1: Davis News. You've seen anything like that? You're I've never
Speaker 1: seen it ever. Pop Warner high school college pros, never
Speaker 1: heard of and never seen it, and it's just completely
Speaker 1: disrespectful to his teammates. Did he say to you, he's
Speaker 1: saying nothing to nobody left. Yeah, you know as much
Speaker 1: as I know, I know, I found out going in
Speaker 1: the second half of the game. Uh coming out? Said
Speaker 1: he said, he's not coming out. He retired. That's crazy. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's it. So we said, what all I think? Um,
Speaker 1: you brought up hard Knocks and Marcus Hunt before Vante
Speaker 1: Davis said one of the more memorable hard knocks moments
Speaker 1: of the last five or so years, when uh, he
Speaker 1: got called I think Jeff Ireland it was, called him
Speaker 1: into his office and alerted him he was being traded
Speaker 1: to the Cults. And the first thing that Andy Davis
Speaker 1: said is can I call my grandma? Which went viral.
Speaker 1: That was a pretty big deal. So we're talking about
Speaker 1: about a different type of cat here. And so although
Speaker 1: this is kind of unheard of, if I had to
Speaker 1: pick a guy, Vante Davis would be on my short
Speaker 1: list of players that would do something like this. What
Speaker 1: an ignominious moment for the Buffalo Bills of two thousand eighteen.
Speaker 1: And football has very strong strong points and it's got
Speaker 1: some weak points, but one of its strength is it
Speaker 1: Foster's mental toughness and this is the opposite of mental toughness.
Speaker 1: How bad was What did Sean McDermott say in that
Speaker 1: halftime speak'st you do you feel for Vante Davis, who's
Speaker 1: I feel for Lorenzo Alexander and you feel for the players.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's played through a lot of injuries.
Speaker 1: You have to have a level of toughness to do
Speaker 1: everything absolutely done throughout his career and take be pushed
Speaker 1: to the to the point where he clearly just was like,
Speaker 1: I'm done with this sport. I shouldn't have played. He
Speaker 1: seemed to be on the fence of playing this year anyways,
Speaker 1: based on how in preseason I would have thought quit
Speaker 1: before he was a healthy scratch last week. He was
Speaker 1: given five million dollars this season three point five million
Speaker 1: with a bad investments in Buffalo guaranteed that a little bit.
Speaker 1: You're You're absolutely right, and his heart clearly wasn't it.
Speaker 1: That's all I mean in terms of feeling for him.
Speaker 1: You just wish that he had made it to the
Speaker 1: end of the game and retired at the end of
Speaker 1: the game, because I don't have I don't think people, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think people would have killed him.
Speaker 1: If you're retired after two weeks, it would have been
Speaker 1: a weird story. But you just got to finish out
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, I get what you're saying. It sucks
Speaker 1: for your for his mind to go into that, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you had to feel pretty low and feel pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: He just finished the final two exactly. And his statement, uh,
Speaker 1: he said, you know the stress, and you know what
Speaker 1: the punishment you take as a player, and we get
Speaker 1: all that, but it just to do in the middle game.
Speaker 1: That's such a range move and an impulsive one that
Speaker 1: I imagine he may regret one day. But it's a
Speaker 1: sport where your heart has to be in it. And
Speaker 1: that's why after the game it wouldn't have seemed that crazy.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, well, did he get just absolutely torched
Speaker 1: at the PFF out of as a negative one point
Speaker 1: four and run? He played? Oh yeah, he played twenty
Speaker 1: nine snaps. He started the game. He said, he was
Speaker 1: on the field and he's thinking himself, like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to do this anymore. He started the gay because
Speaker 1: they were injured. They were pretty banged up, so they
Speaker 1: had to start him. I thought that, like he was
Speaker 1: on the sideline and they didn't put him in the
Speaker 1: game now, and they ended up having to use you
Speaker 1: Raphael Bush and some other players who aren't necessarily used
Speaker 1: to it. He think he was like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: the bathroom and just snuck out the back door or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, which takes us to Sunday Night football,
Speaker 1: deep down field and getting off and in the catch
Speaker 1: at the yard and taking it all the way into
Speaker 1: the end zone. Tave On Austin touchdown Cowboys. Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: played efficient football behind center. Zeke Elliott ran for a
Speaker 1: touchdown in seventy eight yards on the ground, and the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys defense stifle Eli Manning and the New York
Speaker 1: Giants in Gerald world, that gets the Cowboys a uh
Speaker 1: their first win of the season after that disappointing Week
Speaker 1: one loss against the Panthers. The Giants meanwhile, oh and
Speaker 1: two and probably asking some questions right now, Greg, where
Speaker 1: are they asking questions? I'm asking a question of my
Speaker 1: and I'm playing a role in Mark Sessler tonight, which
Speaker 1: I completely look forward to. I'm wondering why I was
Speaker 1: looking forward to any NFC East games in prime time.
Speaker 1: I thought they would be more exciting this year, and
Speaker 1: they're not. This was one of the worst Giants Cowboys
Speaker 1: games in recent memory, but they're all usually stinkers, at
Speaker 1: least if you're a Cowboys fan, though, I think you
Speaker 1: have to feel like you're showing some consistency over these
Speaker 1: two weeks, which is that the defensive front it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a problem, so that gives you something to build
Speaker 1: off with. Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah, when I said earlier this
Speaker 1: or in the preview podcast that the Cowboys offense is
Speaker 1: worse than the defense, probably wasn't given enough credit to
Speaker 1: the defense, which the front seven, You're right, does look
Speaker 1: much improved and it looks like one of the better
Speaker 1: front sevens in the NFC. Now, I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: give the entire Dallas unit really had a nice game,
Speaker 1: because when you can shut down s Kwon Barkley, who
Speaker 1: went eleven for two and a half yards per carry,
Speaker 1: made Eli make old look very old, which I get
Speaker 1: it now, it's starting to look like a lot of
Speaker 1: defenses can do that. But then on top of that,
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham held uh to four catches for fifty one
Speaker 1: yards on nine targets, so they were able to shut
Speaker 1: down Beckham take keep Barkley from breaking big plays and
Speaker 1: Eli manning especially in the first half, and he did
Speaker 1: a couple of things in the second half. But this
Speaker 1: is gonna be the question now. And I spent much
Speaker 1: of the off season whever the Giants came up um
Speaker 1: pounding the table that Eli had another year in him.
Speaker 1: I think every ELI supporter, Uh, it's fair to start
Speaker 1: wondering if if you hitched yourself to the wrong wagon,
Speaker 1: because we're on the ropes right now, they're on I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna bail. I will not bail after week two
Speaker 1: and say that Eli shot and the Giants made the
Speaker 1: biggest mistake in their recent history by passing out a quarterback.
Speaker 1: But through two games, it is not looking good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a question. Dave Gettlman comes in, Pet Shermer
Speaker 1: comes in, revamped offensive line, Sae Kwon Barkley, Their receivers
Speaker 1: are healthy, and what's changed? They look like the same
Speaker 1: in that offenses last year. Eli's face is just he
Speaker 1: was making faces in this game. I think people really
Speaker 1: identify with you because he makes faces as he's getting
Speaker 1: up from getting hit or as he's about to get
Speaker 1: hit as he's getting hit, right that I imagine that
Speaker 1: I would make like if I was in an NFL game,
Speaker 1: So maybe humanizes him, but he was making He had
Speaker 1: some of the saddest kind of faces getting up from
Speaker 1: some of those hits tonight that I've ever seen from Eli.
Speaker 1: This offensive line is not fixed now, that was the
Speaker 1: narrative all off season, and they are not fixed in
Speaker 1: any way. And the Cowboys defense is different. Byron Jones
Speaker 1: is playing cornerback. He was the one who was tracking
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham for much of this game, who's a you know,
Speaker 1: only started at the end of last year. He looks
Speaker 1: like a quality starter. Jalen Smith played pretty well in
Speaker 1: this game. Vander esh came on and ended up making
Speaker 1: some plays like to Marcus Lawrence is going from defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year candidate to backing that up now
Speaker 1: to start the second season. So they've got a lot
Speaker 1: going on. If they can get like one or two
Speaker 1: big plays out of deck, which they got and and
Speaker 1: good running from Zeke, I think the Cowboys deserve some
Speaker 1: credit for that. Jalen Smith pick that. Everyone, I mean
Speaker 1: almost everyone knocked him knocked him for it, and he
Speaker 1: looks like an actual NFL middle linebacker. Now. It's one
Speaker 1: of those great stories too, because he was a prized prospect.
Speaker 1: In his last college game, in a bowl game for
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, he suffers an injury that some people think
Speaker 1: he'll never recover from. So now to see him putting
Speaker 1: together a nice NFL career, that's a great story. The Giants,
Speaker 1: by the way, so one knew before the season that
Speaker 1: the schedule looked terrible. After two weeks, when you take
Speaker 1: another look at the schedules, it's still a really bad schedule.
Speaker 1: Oh and two is bad. So they're in a hole
Speaker 1: next week at Texans another own too disappointment so far,
Speaker 1: but that's a tough on the road, on the road
Speaker 1: against the team that's desperate as you are home to
Speaker 1: Saints and I don't know about the Saints. We'll see
Speaker 1: about the Saints at Panthers, home to Eagles at Falcolm.
Speaker 1: So it's a really tough uh. Even with some of
Speaker 1: those teams not playing very well in the first two weeks,
Speaker 1: there are no gimmeas there are no Buffalo bills on
Speaker 1: the schedule, and the Giants have put themselves in a
Speaker 1: hole for the second straight year. And while Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: isn't getting the dozen to two dozen touches per game
Speaker 1: that Stephen Jones promised in the off season, I think
Speaker 1: he said touches of games. He did get three, including
Speaker 1: the sixty four yard touchdown. So it's nice to see
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin making up play. What is it about him
Speaker 1: that makes coaches promised the unpromisable. I don't know, he's
Speaker 1: like I think it's because he's awesome in off season
Speaker 1: practices when there's no tax. Yeah, and he's just super fast,
Speaker 1: a little quick, guys, and um shout out to Evan
Speaker 1: Inger for delivering me a fantasy man with a total
Speaker 1: worthless touchdown on the front who said it's worthless not
Speaker 1: to me. You were pretty excited that it was livening
Speaker 1: up the studio here. I mean, you know, I was
Speaker 1: happy that the Patriots lost, but I don't really I
Speaker 1: only really get excited when that happens in the playoffs, truly.
Speaker 1: But you know, the Jets laid an egg and the
Speaker 1: Yankees lost again. Your favorite player, Eli Manning strategy, he
Speaker 1: lies in the tank. I really kind of needed to
Speaker 1: pick me up. So a big comeback when on Sunday Night.
Speaker 1: Who said nobody cares about fantasy other people's fantasy teams,
Speaker 1: Like the whole country is gonna be transfixed by my team.
Speaker 1: This show, well, this beats last year's Matt Ryan Angst
Speaker 1: I have on my team again. Nice performance job by
Speaker 1: all Right, there you go. That's uh, that's Sunday Night football.
Speaker 1: That's Sunday of week two. Is one more game of
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Speaker 1: this is Dan hands Is signing off, Get well soon,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Dan Hanson signing off for the Mailman, the
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