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Was our boys, 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:24.520 Hey an Mark Sesler under the weather, not feeling himself 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:28.600 this morning, So we sold you on as a trio. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.600 Three amigos, if you will. What a day for football. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.319 It was like we were. I think the NFL held 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.120 off last week while we were in London. Let's have 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.920 a nice week one everyone's going to enjoy. Anyways, Let's 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.679 save the good stuff for when these guys are just 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.880 in the studio and can watch. I mean you say 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.680 good as someone that is deeply plugged into the kicking 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.400 game in professional football. This was a dark day. This 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:56.200 is a hashtag never forget. This was maybe the most 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.240 fun day I've had watching football in like four or 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:03.279 five years. Wow. Football put on a sexy red gown 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.800 and turned heads at the end end of summer ball. 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.359 Today that that sequence, and we talked about this one 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.600 shot at you talked about this last week Sky Sports, 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.680 that fifteen to twenty minute window at the end of 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:21.119 the early games, and today you had uh Kirk Cousins 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.920 with an impossible throw to Adam Thaland to force overtime. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:28.960 St you got Fitzpatrick at the podium looking like a pimp. 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.280 I don't know he was looking like the Sean Jackson 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.360 because he just took the Sean Jackson's outfit. That was 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.600 the story behind sts Brown's You've got Vonte Davis retiring 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.960 at halftime and that news is coming out. You've got 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:43.720 Falcon Houston, driving Pittsburgh driving Carolina, driving all about five 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.520 games at the end, which all came out. It was beautiful. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.200 Um I grew up listening to Mike francessa New York 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.800 He had a term for the end of the games. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.840 Uh in that hour, It's called the witching hour. Dog, 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.799 It's the Witching hour something like that. Uh So, what 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.200 we're gonna do. We're gonna go through all of the 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:07.040 games on Sunday, and yes, despite the the woes in 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.960 the Kicker game and a lot of kickers that are unemployed, 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.760 we're on their couches jumping up and down with joy 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.080 because there's gonna be workouts across the league and we're 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.919 gonna get to that with each game. You know, your 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.880 boy Kai was enjoying today. Guys feeling good? You know 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.440 why guaranteed I put a sandwich on it. If anybody 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.560 wants to take me on it. Kai for Bath is 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.440 on a team week three? Who wants to take me 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.840 on it? Kai is getting a job because Kai was 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.119 good last year. Maybe not in Minnesota because we'll get 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.880 to that. But I'll take you up on that. I 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.160 would not take you up on Kai get is one 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:46.280 of the kickers in some try out of different cities. No, 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.119 I agree with Dan. All right, let's do it. Sandwich. Wow, 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.360 all of a sudden, I'm super invested in Kai four Bath. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.920 I hope interview as well. All right, so let's get 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.400 to the games. And why don't we start with a 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:02.640 rematch of the uh A f C Championship. Dropping the 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.640 throw is Blake looking as far as a little crossing 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.240 round called wide open, west Brook. You're in the Patris 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.040 Territory season. Battle to the party, west Brook int tide 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:12.760 the start of your line. Hold on to that sideline. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:18.599 Let's go to five the old touchdown portals to Westbrook. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:24.159 Portal touchdown Frank Frangie w O k V with the 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:28.320 call Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles through for three seventy seven 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.920 and four touchdowns, including that game clinching fifty eight yard 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.920 hook up with D. D. Westbrook and the Jacksonville Jaguars 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:39.400 deliver an early statement with a thirty one to twenty 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.599 win over the New England Patriots. As I said, a 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.200 rematch of the a f C Championship game west the 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.160 Jacks could not close the door on the Pats in January, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.919 this time they slammed it shut. Well. This was a 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.160 beat down from the beginning to the end, and there 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.760 was a period middle of the fourth quarter it looks 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.560 like the Patriots could get back into the game of 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.359 things broke right, but they didn't break right, and on 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.839 fourth and inches from their own nineteen yard line, down 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.600 eleven points, they decided to punt. And to me, that 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.600 was that was a backbreaker because the very next play, 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.840 Blake borders the D D. Westbrook sixty one yards. Some 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.840 poor tackling on that play, some poor angles were taken 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.400 and the game was over. But this was Jaguars dominating 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.320 up from on both sides of the ball and showing 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.480 that they just have a much stronger roster. Well, you 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.840 think of the Patriots as this established team, and they 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.040 are an established franchise with the greatest quarterback of all time. 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.279 But these two teams as they stand now, the Jaguars 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.560 are kind of who they are. They're gonna they want 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.520 to stay this team that they have in terms of 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.320 their defense and in terms of offensively, they know what 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.320 they want to be for the most part. The Patriots 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.920 are very much a work in progress. So even though 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.039 the Jaguars, I don't know if they were an underdog 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.280 in this game or not. To me, they're the more 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.120 established team and they looked like at the Patriots are 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.560 I think gonna be fine, but they're gonna be figuring 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.760 some things out on both sides of the ball. They 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.480 lost their best defensive player, Trey Flowers to a concussion, 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.839 they lost Patrick Chung, and Blake Bortles was making throws 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.720 that Bill Belichick was daring him to make. The first 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.880 two drives of the game, to me were the key 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.320 for the Jaguars. He hit a lot of tight windows. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.719 It wasn't necessarily the Patriots defense playing poorly. It was 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.640 Blake Bortles beating one on one matchups. And remember this 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.680 is the Jaguars without Leonard Fournette, who had the hamstring 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.880 in issue inactive, So what they what do they do? 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.279 They don't pound on the ground. They a lot of 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.400 short passes and then, like you said, just when there 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.359 was one play in particular, I think one of the 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.880 early touchdowns Patriots who saw eight in the box basically 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.719 daring Blake Bortles to beat you downfield, and he did it. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.159 And I think it was such a big game for 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:46.800 Blake Bortles. It's a big game in the a f C. 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.320 We talked about it before, Greg how it's kind of 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.720 a bummer. It was a week two, but it counts 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.960 the same. So now if these two teams finished with 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.960 the same record and there's a postseason by on the line, 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.800 it is the Jaguars that would get that by, and 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.359 think West. This is a huge day for Blake Bortles 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.120 and his confidence as this season starts to get rolling 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.760 or two and oh now he was legitimately great today. Um, 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.640 as far as his confidence goes, I'm not buying into 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:13.960 that narrative. I've seen this too often. The job of 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.440 an NFL starting quarterback is to be consistent and reliable, 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.080 and Bortles is the opposite of that. Well, people forget 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.320 he's had incredible games. They're usually not this high profile, 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.920 but he's thrown in three or four of these games 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.200 certainly in his second year, in his third year, a 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.440 couple of them last year, Like he's had these games 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.200 where you can see why he was taking number three 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.480 overall in the draft. And I think one thing that 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.800 Jack's fans have to feel great about, though, is Keelan 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.720 Cole is legit. I mean, he might have been undrafted, 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.080 but he's plays like a number one receiver. I mean 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.080 he makes plays. Corey Grant needs to be a big 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.760 part of this offense even when Leonard four Nette is back. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.520 And I don't think they're better without for Nette, but 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.160 I do think they're more aggressive without for and a 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.760 little less predictable, and maybe that helps them in a 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.240 game against the Patriots that west you referred to the 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:04.040 Patriots decision to punt very they were down three in 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.600 this game. Uh, the Jaguars turning over near the midfield, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.240 New England turns that into a touchdown, they kick a 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.800 field goal, they're back within striking distance. And it was 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:18.120 a unique situation because they they got the first down initially, 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.119 and there was challenge and it was a good challenge 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.520 by Doug Moron because and when it happened, I said, oh, 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.960 I don't like that challenge. Because very rarely do spot 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.880 challenges get overturned, but in this case it did. So 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.080 now it's fourth and inches, and I know it's deep 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.320 and doing a territory, but Bill has done this before, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.480 where you guys surprised that he did optupunt. I was shocked, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.600 and I think we were talking down there. Greg seemed shocked, 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.680 and we were both yelling at Romo that he was 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.360 I was kind of descending to Romo being like, I 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.160 was like, they're not gonna punt here, They're gonna go 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.680 for it. Of course they're gonna go like it's and 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.560 you've got the best quarterback sneaker of all times. This 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.800 wasn't one of those games though, And I know Tim Posey, 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:58.160 who's behind the Los cannon, who was really taking this hard. Uh, 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.200 this isn't one of those as a Patriots fan where 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.319 I'm worrying about those small details just because the Jaguars 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.520 were much better, Like they just were way better, and yeah, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.120 they could have snuck back into the game, but I 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.920 had no faith that the Patriots would ultimately get stopped 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.400 or make enough big plays on offense to get it done. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.959 What to me the most alarming the fact for the 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.400 Patriots is what do you do? What do you have 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:24.240 when a guy like toddwash the defensive coordinator, creatively takes 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.600 out Rob Gronkowski? What else do you have on offense? 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.040 But you got fourteen weeks to figure that out. I 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.280 think you're gonna have a lot more. And you have Tom. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.120 You have Tom Brady start. If you follow the sport, 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.440 you know the Patriots in September are very different than 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.920 the Patriots in January. But Greg and I just have 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.839 to check in with you. The pants, Uh, sometimes you 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.080 couldn't be it couldn't be more dry? Yeah, well are 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.719 we let's say ten? Oh my goodness, I need to 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.600 get home. I got my pants that soaked through one 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:59.600 nothing at all, total dryness, Pea scale, total dryness. This 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.280 is the it they were out. You don't want to 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.440 go back to Jacksonville January, bro, I don't care what. 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.760 It's a week two game. Almost any results apparently he's 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.160 got not gonna be that worrisome. But the Jaggers played great. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.000 I mean, tam posts her pants are wet right now. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.360 Let's just put it out. I smelled it as soon 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.040 as I walked out out. That's not true, but you're right, 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.480 if it comes down to the by. And also, this 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.800 is not a game that we want to lose. You 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.040 don't want to because when we see them again. No, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.079 this was the game. I've been looking forward to this 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.040 game more than a lot of the other ones coming up. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.000 I mean this means something down the line. It doesn't 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.679 matter that we played it like an extension of preseason. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.200 Belichick was gone, just go ahead. What do you mean 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.480 they played it? They just got out played it. It happened. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:43.360 I just want to market today September six eighteen that 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:47.280 our producer made a formal sincere denial that she had 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:52.760 wet herself. Let's move on, By the way, the hottest 0:10:52.800 --> 0:11:00.079 games to try to get the right protection call just 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:05.400 called Tyreek OWWN Kansas. Sitting on a street pattern up 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:11.360 the left sideline. Mitch holt us Kate see f X 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:16.520 With the call, Patrick Mahomes tied a franchise record six 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.240 touchdown passes. Can you believe this guy? And the Chiefs 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:23.520 held off the Pittsburgh Steelers at seven win at Heinz Field. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.160 Back to back road games from Holmes goes absolutely nuts. Gregg. 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.360 There wasn't a lot of defense to be found in 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.160 this one. But a mano with mono show down between 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.160 the old guard, Big Ben and the new one PM two. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.360 I made that up. Yeah, we need a we need 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.199 a nickname for Patrick Mahomes in general and just watching 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:43.800 him play, I mean, for right now, to me, he's 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.200 just box office. They're the number one team on the 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.600 game that, They're the number one team on the Game 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.080 Pass rankings. They should be the number one team on 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.240 CBS if they've got an option of who they can 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:57.079 show nationally. Because when you can put up twenty one 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.200 points like that in the first half of forty two 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.280 and Tyreek Hill barely touches the ball, Andy Reid and 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.200 Eric b Enemy have to get almost as much credit 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.800 as Mahomes, who's timing and accuracy and kind of next 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.840 level eye movement has really been good for a young player. 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.200 But these guys are open. I mean, Tyree Hill gets 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.640 behind the defense every play. Sammy Watkins was open all day. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.760 Travis Kelsey had a yard and a half of separation 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.640 on a lot of these plays. It's looked, it looked 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.640 too easy, It's looked familiar to for a Steelers defense 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.920 that gave up what forty four last time they were 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:37.240 in Pittsburgh. I'm trying to remember break big week for 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.920 the top ten Receiving Corps rankings. Every everyone was saying 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.520 that after this game, Sammy Watkins, who is maybe the 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.040 fourth best position or skill position player on this team, 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.800 would be the best on some teams. Yeah, and he 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.280 looked good today and Kelsey. Those two guys, Kelsey and Watkins, 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.199 who didn't do a lot last week, were the kind 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.800 of the dominant figures today. But I've watched this Steelers 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.280 team enough and Tomlin has been there coach for a while, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.600 and these players on defense for the most part have 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.520 been there while. And I know they got out schemed, 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.600 and it's only week two and it was really hot 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.080 in Pittsburgh as well, But I never trust this defense 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.480 to make any stops. And at some point you gotta wonder, 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.000 just not since went down, That's true. They were playing 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.679 great last year midway through the season, and you just 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.080 this team needs to have some sort of defense. You 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.320 mentioned the one on one matchup between Roethlisberger and Mahomes. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.959 To me, that was a draw. Big Ben made a 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:37.800 number of incredible plays for the most about, right, do 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.320 you think he played that up a little bit less 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:43.960 come on it's the Pope camp, like, Ben, did you 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.040 play it up at all the elbow? Be honest? Ah, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:53.160 that was my impression of bit honest. Okay, he I 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.920 mean yeah. The difference partly was also just this was 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.720 like an arena league game where it was just came 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.880 down who can make one or two stops? And Ryan 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.240 Switzer and Ben Roethlisberger we're not on the same page. 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:10.200 On one third down, where Roethlisberger expected Switzer to keep going, 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:11.800 it was like a third and one. So many of 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.280 the the third and sevens and third and six just 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.360 felt like layups. You just expected the offense on both 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.800 sides to get fifteen yards every play, and they made 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.600 a mistake on that. And little players like that were 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.600 the difference. There wasn't too much separating. As a football fan, 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.600 these are not my favorite types of games. That's why 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.800 anybody that was saying Eagles Patriots is one of the 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.120 top super bowls. I like a little defense. I like 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.280 when it's a little even and there there's some playmaking 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.240 on both sides of the ball going up and down 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.800 the field. I watched these two teams and I'm thinking 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.880 they can put up points and they'll probably be exciting 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.240 for a lot of people, But are these contenders if 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.920 you if if your defense is this bad, can you 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.240 be taken seriously in the conference? I am already taking 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:55.080 the Chiefs seriously. Yeah, well remember last September though, right, Yeah, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:56.960 I get it, I get it. I just think they're 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:01.520 maybe it's the early season. Andy Reid is already ahead 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.040 of everyone ahead. We're gonna catch up to him. Thing 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.200 I don't know, because people caught up to him last year. 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.960 I think the defensive personnel, especially in Pittsburgh, but in 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.520 Kansas City to can there's good enough players there that 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.800 I think they could improve throughout the course of the season. 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.560 But I think for right now, Mike tom Tomas coaching 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.000 the wrong team. And I and I think he's we 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.840 saw this a little bit. He should be coaching the 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.920 team that he has, which is not a team with 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.680 a defense you can trust. And I remember last week 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.520 you said, you know, Hugh Jackson almost Dan said that 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.640 Hugh Jackson almost didn't seem ready to win that game 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.240 and got a little tight team. But the Steelers were 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.160 really the team in that game that did that as well. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.600 They sat on that lead, they were way too conservative 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.840 against the Browns, and I saw the same thing today 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:44.920 out of the Steelers in too many situations in this 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.320 game where they could not get stops. They were punting 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.160 on fourth down and I know it's fourth and sixth, 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.680 fourth and seven. They just had to start going for 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.800 it when they when they needed to keep the ball, 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.720 they punted, I think at one point with eight minutes 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.800 left and the game was basically over at that point. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.800 You gotta play to your strength. It's in its offense. 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:04.200 Do you think that we are You've made comments that 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.680 you see the Steelers as a team not in the playoffs, 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.760 and you even threw out some some records that would 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.760 be eye opening if the Steelers finished with them. Do 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:13.720 you think that we're just sleeping on them? That of 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.520 course they're gonna put it together. They have too much 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.960 talent not to I mean they're only old one and one, 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.920 so it's not a panic. I mean they also Jesse 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.000 James look good smith shoes. You want the Steelers to 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.400 I do? I mean, let's let's root for the story. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.960 And we've seen the Steelers enough in the mix. Oh yeah, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.600 we haven't seen the Pats enough though, so let's root 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.360 for them. Wow, that's my that's my team, I think, 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:37.960 don't they seem like a team with a few more 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:41.120 else could just internally combust like just it goes a little. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.520 They never have though, you know, yeah under Tomlin, but 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.520 I I see where you're got nine and seven. But yeah, 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.960 let's move up a thirty five yard field gold prize 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:58.080 to kick the Bikings no spot Carlson. He missed it again, 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.880 and he missed it right of the third time in 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.280 the history of the Horner Battle that at the end 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:08.080 of the day, of the time Daniel Carlson missed green 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:14.439 field goals today, Paul Allen k f a n with 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:19.000 the call, My goodness, he's the bath Daniel Carlson. It 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.000 was a fourth round pick. The round pick I think 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:25.320 fit missed two field goals in overtime, including that thirty 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.280 five yard or pushed it right as time expired, and 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:32.639 the Minnesota Vikings stuck with a twenty nine tie with 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.159 the Packers. They wiped out a thirteen point deficit in 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:41.000 this game, but ended up kissing their sister. That's a 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:45.119 weird phrase that people will use. Shook, Nick Shook, He's back. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.359 He helped us out on Sunday Night Football last week 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.480 and now we lean on him again. He's in the 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.320 studio with us. There's a lot to break down here, buddy. 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.960 Aaron Rodgers delivered another great performance on one on one leg. 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.639 Kirk Cousins played like a star. But both teams will 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.439 come out this tie with regret. Right, Yeah, absolutely. I 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:08.000 was waiting for the Paul Allen called no no. It 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.600 was a bad day for kickers and Daniel Carlson was 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.600 one of the worst offenders. But this game was a 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.760 tale of two halves because in the first half, Green 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.439 Bay played great defense. Uh, they they stuck with their 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.720 base package, which they did not do in week one, 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.320 and it kind of left Minnesota scrambling for an answer. 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.960 And then the second half Green Bass, which is what 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.360 they're doing. Minnesota is left to pass because they're trying 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.119 to erase the deficit and they end up tying the game. Uh. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.720 You know, in regulation on what might be a controversial call, 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.640 we're probably gonna hear about it more in the next 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.520 twenty four hours, which is Clay Matthews hit on Kirk 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.680 Cousins which nullified and intern that would have ended the game. 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.360 That made me furious, and if I'm a Packers fan, 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.840 I'm dying. But even as a football fan, he gets 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.320 up under Kirk Cousins, but not in a flagrant way, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.280 not in a violent way. Just as Cousins releases the past, 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.920 he takes him down. They throw the flag. And Matthews, 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.840 who who got killed with the roughing the pass there 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.159 last week that he deserved, he got up and he 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.719 was absolutely stunned. Let's just let's hear from Clay Matthews 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.919 his thoughts on that. I mean, I don't even know 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:12.919 where to starting, to be completely honest with you. I mean, 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.360 I have so many emotions kind of running through as 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:20.640 far as that Tim Riggins, It's just what a terrible time, 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.640 handsome man. I don't know what else to do. I mean, 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:26.280 I don't know you let me know. Let me tell 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.120 me that I did. I put pressure on him because 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:29.760 I you know, I thought I hit him with him. 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.359 You know, there's waste of chest. I got my head across, 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.720 put my hands down, and to call it, you know, 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.960 at that point in the game, it's just, I mean, 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.719 it's unbelievable. No, I didn't get it. I didn't get 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.200 explanation whatsoever. I had no idea, you know, I looked 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:47.119 up there was a flag there, and uh, I honestly 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.520 had no idea, you know, because like I said, you know, 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.320 I got my head across, hands were down. I didn't 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.639 dump him, hit him within the framework, uh, you know, 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.080 the proper tackling area. So I don't know, you know, 0:19:58.119 --> 0:19:59.840 I don't know. I think it's you know, much like 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.920 saw with the Lauren a helmet preseason. I think they 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.840 hopefully the league you know, gets to the refs m 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:07.679 you know, tells him to Tony down a little bit 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.960 because it's uh, I mean, I don't know what else 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:14.280 to do. So Tony Creanti, the official, did speak with 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.919 the media afterwards. He said, I had nothing to do 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.480 with any of the new rules. That when Clay Matthews 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.920 hit the quarterback, he lifted him and drove him into 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.400 the ground. If you watch the replay, that's just clearly 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:26.840