1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: Second down and two, the hand off the penny at 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 2: the fifteen, at the ten at the five season touchdown. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: Seahawks getting you ready for Seahawks football every Sunday. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: First and ten at the Seattle forty play fake stafford, 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Gonna stop, gonna look. 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 4: Gets it goes down back a midfield Getting to him 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 4: in the backfield is Darryl Taylor. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: Presented by Delta, the official airline of the Seahawks. 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 5: Now here's your host, Jen. 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 4: Mueller, and today we are getting you ready for who 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: you might be seeing on Sundays this year. With the 13 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: Seahawks completing a draft that included ten draft picks, a 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 4: very large rookie class added to last year's draft class 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 4: that was also a pretty sizable class with nine players taken, 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 4: we're gonna break down what the Seahawks did. John Boyle 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 4: as always my partner in crime from Seahawks dot Com. 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: Hello, Jen, how are you hello? 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: I'm well and we have to be on our best 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 4: behavior because you recruited a guest today. 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: Very special guest. 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: We've got the one and only Rob rang best draft 23 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: analyst in the biz. If you ask me and a 24 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 3: lot of other people. 25 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: I would absolutely agree. 26 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 5: Welcome Rob, very kind of you both. Thank you for 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 5: having me. 28 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: Here's what I need to ascertain before we start. Are 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 4: you like back in play on the twenty twenty three draft, 30 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 4: because my understanding is you have already turned in a 31 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four mock draft. I cannot go that far, 32 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: Rob Blake. I only I can barely remember what the 33 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 4: Seahawks did on Day one of the draft. 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 6: Well, I can still remember two days ago, but looking 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 6: three hundred and sixty three days in the future definitely 36 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 6: is testing me a little bit. But yes, when you 37 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 6: covered the NFL draft as I try to do, then 38 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 6: there really is not a day off, Jen, And so 39 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 6: that's what that is. My focus is trying to make 40 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 6: sure that my twenty twenty four mock draft is as 41 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 6: accurate or hopefully even more accurate than my twenty twenty 42 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 6: three one was. 43 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: Well, and because you have covered the draft for so 44 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: long and you do this with such intensity and focus, 45 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: it was interesting to hear John Schneider talk about how 46 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: this draft went and how just kind of scattered and 47 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: unpredictable everything was. Would you agree and why did that happen? 48 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 5: I would agree. 49 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 6: I think the word he used was random, Yeah, and 50 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 6: I thought that it kind of made me chuckle when 51 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 6: he said it. But I did think that there were 52 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 6: some selections from other clubs that felt a little random, 53 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 6: and just because there were some players that were selected 54 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 6: that just about everybody knew had some medical questions, had 55 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 6: some character questions, and to see these players go as 56 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 6: early as they were, whereas the Seahawks were kind of 57 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 6: getting players that are four year starters and they have 58 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 6: all these recommendations from their coaches and fellow players that 59 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 6: I'm sure that it did feel a little random to 60 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 6: the Seahawks because they were prioritizing good football players and 61 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 6: good people, whereas it felt like some of the other clubs, 62 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 6: maybe we're just focusing on one. 63 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 5: Or the other. 64 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. 65 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 3: And to expand on that, Shiner was saying that after 66 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 3: day two of the drafts, so we're talking second and 67 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: third round picks, yes, And he's saying, you know, these 68 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: are guys that are on our medical board or free 69 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: agent board, which, for those who don't know the lingo 70 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: like free agent board means the guys they don't have 71 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: a draftable grade on that's drafted, free agent or a 72 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: medical being a guy they're not going to pick because 73 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: of injury concerns, and those guys are going on Day 74 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: two to some teams. So a lot of, as John 75 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: put at randomness going on in this draft. 76 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 4: Well, and when you take a look at this year's 77 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: draft compared to last year, the similarity is you had 78 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: a large draft class because you had draft capital to 79 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: play with. The difference to me, as I look at 80 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 4: these ten picks last year, it feels like they were 81 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 4: doubling up, right, Rob, Like you talked about four year 82 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: starters last year, it felt like that were doubling up 83 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: at positions. You had guys that you were sure had 84 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: the resume, and then maybe you took a chance right 85 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: and you drafted a Tarik Wolland, but you also had 86 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: a Kobe Bryant that was out there, vice versa. When 87 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: I look at this, there's certainly later rounds, right. I 88 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: don't know how Kenny Macintosh the running back, is going 89 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: to fit in. I know they needed a running back, 90 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: but I think that they approached the draft differently because 91 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 4: they could. Here's my big question. Did Seattle address their 92 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: biggest needs? 93 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 6: I think they did, but it took a while and 94 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 6: That's what made this draft unique in that they waited. 95 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 6: Seattle took the of course, the cornerback Witherspoon at number 96 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 6: five overall. They took the wide receiver Jackson Smith and 97 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 6: Jigba at number twenty overall. And when they made those selections, 98 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 6: when I viewed Seatle's biggest areas of concern the interior, 99 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 6: the offensive and defensive lines, I thought, WHOA, what's going 100 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 6: on here? You're addressing areas that are our needs, but 101 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 6: not critical needs at least in my opinion. But for 102 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 6: the way that Seattle came back on day two and 103 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 6: day three or were able to address the line of 104 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 6: scrimmage as as well as they did with again these 105 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 6: four year starters, these kind of plug and play options, 106 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 6: I think that, to me is one of the takeaways 107 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 6: from this year's class and how it is kind of 108 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 6: a parallel, how it is kind of an extension of 109 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 6: last year's group. But I thought that you made a great, 110 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 6: a great distinction between the two classes, though, Joe, when 111 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 6: you mentioned the fact that last year they kind of 112 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 6: double dipped at the positions, this year, it felt like 113 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 6: they were not so much double dipping. Although running back 114 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 6: obviously two backs but they were double dipping in terms 115 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 6: of again the character and the production on the field, 116 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 6: and that I thought was a nice way of making 117 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 6: sure that these are the kind of players who are 118 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 6: going to justify where they were selected and perhaps even 119 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 6: play better than expected. 120 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: And I think this was a good case of as 121 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: John Scheider always says, they're following their board of look 122 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 3: like they all knew the defensive line was their biggest 123 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: need coming in. But if you don't have a guy 124 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: you really love with the first round grade and instead 125 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: you can get who you think is the best cornerback 126 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: and the best receiver guys at two premium positions in 127 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: the first round. 128 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: You do that and then you kind of figure it 129 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: out as the draft goes along, and. 130 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: They you know, they had some guys come to them 131 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: later in the draft that they liked at those line 132 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: positions that, as you said, were probably the bigger needs. 133 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 3: But this I think we're you know, we all it's 134 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: almost sound spoche say take the best player available, but 135 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: it felt like, especially those first two days, that's what 136 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: we're seeing is it's like, look, here's how the draft 137 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: boards going. We're taking that guy. 138 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 4: Well, and you've got playmakers, right, and we can dive 139 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 4: into what those playmakers will specific do for this team. 140 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 4: But how about if we hear what the GM thinks 141 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 4: about those playmakers. 142 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: Really excited about Devon and Jackson and what they're going 143 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: to bring to this organization. Both big time competitors. Devin 144 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: Argue one of the most physical players in the draft 145 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: regardless of position, and Jackson big time, big time production 146 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: and argued to be the best receiver in this in 147 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: this draft class won our opinion. It wasn't this. 148 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, you kind of do have to say that. And look, 149 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: I do think Devin Witherspoon best cornerback, Jackson Smith and 150 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: jib but best wide receiver. Seattle gets playmakers, and here's 151 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 4: what I'm seeing happen in this one. Look, you've got 152 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: a cornerback that can play opposite Tarrequal and who can 153 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: start right away. You want to get that pass rush going, which, 154 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 4: by the way, Seattle was not middle or even bottom 155 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: of the rankings when it came to getting pressure on 156 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: the quarterback. I know that there was some misalignment or 157 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 4: not quite fitting that. You know, that defensive front much maligned. 158 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: That's the word that I was looking for on that one. 159 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: They were still able to create pressure. You put Devin 160 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: in the in that secondary with Tarik, quarterbacks are gonna 161 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: have to hold the ball an extra second. That does 162 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: help your pass rush. And to me, when I look 163 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: at Jackson, I want a guy that can work the 164 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: middle of the field. I love that Tyler Lockett is 165 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: reliable on third downs. I would prefer not to see 166 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: him taking some of those hits across the middle of 167 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: the field. Right, So, not only did you get playmakers, 168 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: you potentially lessen the load on some of the other 169 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 4: guys or position groups. 170 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: Right. 171 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's an excellent point. I think kind 172 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 6: of going started off first with Witherspoon. When you have 173 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 6: a player that played as well as Tarik Willen did 174 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 6: a year ago, then the obvious solution to that from 175 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 6: an opposing quarterbacks perspective is, let's just not try to 176 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 6: throw the ball anywhere near this guy. Let's attack the 177 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 6: other side of the field. And I think that it 178 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 6: requires you to be able to find a player who 179 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 6: mentally is very tough, it's going to be able to 180 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 6: handle that, and then is an agitator. And that's exactly 181 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 6: what Witherspoon is. I mean, the way that he kind 182 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 6: of jostles receivers when they first are trying to get 183 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 6: into their route. He is just in their back pocket 184 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 6: and he just kind of annoys the opposing wide receiver 185 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 6: to the point where you know he was voted the 186 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 6: Big Ten Defensive Back of the Year for a reason 187 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 6: because this guy is just that much of a nuisance 188 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 6: in coverage. So I think that between what the success 189 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 6: of Seattle have a Tarik Roll on one side, and 190 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 6: then again with Witherspoon on the other, I think that 191 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 6: that physicality really matches, and then with Jackson Smith and 192 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 6: jig But look, Tyler Lockett is spectacular, d K Meckf 193 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 6: is spectacular, but Seattle is needed for a while now 194 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 6: a third receiver, a third whether it be tight end 195 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 6: or a wide receiver, but somebody else that can make 196 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 6: some big plays. So it's not always on titled Locket 197 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 6: on third down or whatever the case might be. And 198 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 6: I think specifically a pass catcher that has some run 199 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 6: after the catch ability and that doesn't necessarily have to 200 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 6: be in straight line speed. It means physicality, it means 201 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 6: just balanced through contact. Jack and Smith and Jigba has 202 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 6: all of those things. And that's why I think that 203 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 6: He's going to be an excellent fit. I think that 204 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 6: he is going to come into the NFL and be, 205 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 6: you know, similar to Ken Walker a year ago and 206 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 6: then being a legitimate offensive rookie of the year Candy. 207 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 6: I think he's going to put real numbers in this 208 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 6: offense immediately and justifies Seales selection. 209 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: You make the comparison between Jackson and ken Walker. The third, 210 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 4: Pete Carroll made a comparison to Witherspoon and one of 211 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: his former players at SC that puts the first round 212 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 4: pick in some pretty heady company. 213 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 7: Devin Witherspoon. He's a rare player. And we've been through 214 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 7: this draft just since the years we've been here, we 215 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 7: haven't seen a guy like this, and you know, we 216 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 7: have not drafted corners high. And just because we have 217 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 7: come across the guy of this this makeup, and it's 218 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 7: really it's his athletic ability, it's his speed, it's it's 219 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 7: his playmaking, it's his mentality. Having come across the guy 220 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 7: like this in a long time, last time I recognized 221 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 7: this kind of makeup was back at s SE when 222 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 7: we had a guy that you guys may know, Joy 223 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 7: Paulamala was a guy that had an extraordinary way about 224 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 7: the way he played the game. And I saw this 225 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 7: connection between you know, what Devin does and how he 226 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 7: looks at the game and how he approaches it. 227 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 228 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: I mean that's about as heavy companies you can put 229 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: someone in it. Pete Carroll obviously coach Troy pal Mull 230 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: at USC and then we all saw the career he 231 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: had and Pete carrolllyn acknowledges like I looked at I know, 232 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: he knew what he was saying. It wasn't like oops, 233 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: I slipped up and compared him to a Hall of 234 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: Famer Like he did that very intentionally, and it's not, 235 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: you know, there are different players, different positions, but it 236 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: was he talked about the makeup, the competitive nature. 237 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm just that it was more. It was obviously a 238 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: lot of what came torore and tape, but also the. 239 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: Sitting down when when he was out here for a 240 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: thirty visit and just the conversations they had and talking 241 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 3: about football really just jumped out of Pete Carroll. And again, 242 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: that's some rare company you're putting him in. 243 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, to your point, John, I mean like rare company. 244 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 6: I mean when when Pete Carroll's said the name Troy Polamalu. 245 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 6: I mean, my jaw just dropped. I just thought, Wow, 246 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 6: that you're going way back there, and that's quite that's 247 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 6: a Hall of Fame player that you're making this comparison too, 248 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 6: and a player that played you know, one is the 249 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 6: safety and one's a cornerback, of course. And so when 250 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 6: Pete said that, I looked at John Schneider and I 251 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 6: was like, Okay, is John's going to like look at 252 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 6: him like, are you crazy the way I initially thought. 253 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 6: Instead I saw John kind of nodding his head in agreement. 254 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 6: I think the Pete Carroll has been talking with his scouts, 255 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 6: his coaches and then using this play of comparison for 256 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 6: a while now, and I think that it fits because 257 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 6: when you watch Witherspoon on. 258 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 5: Tape, he is highly physical. He is highly instinctive, just 259 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 5: of course the way that tropoylamalaway. 260 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: And that wasn't off the cuff. That's probably why Schneider 261 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: wasn't surprised. I actually I ran into Peek Carrol in 262 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: the hall after the pick, but before that press conference, 263 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: and he said that he's like, I'm gonna say this 264 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 3: to the media, but and then he said it was 265 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: like it spit in his head for a while. This 266 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: wasn't just some random comparison he came up with so 267 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: pretty impressive stuff. 268 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 4: It is depressive. And remember what that came off of. 269 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: It's not just watching how physical Devin is on the field, 270 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: it's his decision making. It's it's what he's seen and 271 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 4: why he's reacting the way that he did. Really impressed 272 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 4: Pete Carroll. They they talked about having a great conversation 273 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 4: on his visit and just to your point, Rob being 274 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 4: a great football mind and being able to be back there. 275 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: I don't know that he's going to start Week one 276 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: because I haven't seen him go. And it's all about 277 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: the competition. That's why I have to say it that way. 278 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: But it's going to be fun on a Week one 279 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: we'll be there. So let's talk about Seattle second round 280 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: draft picks outside linebacker Derek Hall, and then you get 281 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: a running back Zach Charbonnay, which always is going to 282 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: make me think, because three people have put in my head, 283 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: how many times will you say shardonay? Everybody knows that 284 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 4: I enjoice. 285 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: Why would you? I don't know what are your friends getting? Yeah? Yeah? 286 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 4: Why did every single friend text me to ask if 287 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: I was going to call him a glass of one. 288 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 289 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna talk about the second round pick. I'm 290 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: gonna get off the hot seat. We'll have we'll hear 291 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: what John Schneider has to say. 292 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 5: Great day. Uh you know we we we drafted two 293 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 5: grown men. 294 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: Today, huge competitors, uh, excellent human beings, uh, alpha dog 295 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: guys leaders. I mean, you know, Derek and Shabona are 296 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 2: just really really impressive people. You guys are gonna you 297 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: guys are gonna find them both really impressive. 298 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. 299 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: Past rush attitude with Derek, motor hustle U Sharbon, I 300 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: just you know, the toughness, effort, uh, maturity with both 301 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: these guys. I mean, it's just, uh, it's really exciting 302 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: to add the toughness to this group. 303 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: I am so impressed by the way that they do 304 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: this without any notes. I have pages and pages of notes. 305 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: I'm drowning down all of these things that the players 306 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 4: are saying on the conference calls. With us and Pete John, 307 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 4: we're just throwing around first names, like we've know these 308 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: guys forever. We've literally talked to them for five minutes 309 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: now I get it beaten John to talk to them 310 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 4: far more the fact that they didn't even have qu 311 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 4: cards in front of them to talk about how balanced 312 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 4: they are and what their you know, pass rush technique is. 313 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: I am personally amazed, but I am easily impressed at 314 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: this point. So there's that. 315 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 6: Well, I think with Derek Hall, you're going to continue 316 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 6: to be impressed Jim, because I think you're going to 317 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 6: see his burst. I think you're going to see his power. 318 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 6: This is a guy that nineteen and a half sacks 319 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 6: over his college career. And this is not Auburn, this 320 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 6: isn't some small school. This is going its SEC competition, 321 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 6: you know, and when you have that type of production, 322 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 6: you don't have to go to the Senior Bowl. But 323 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 6: the fact that he chose to do so anyways, I 324 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 6: think again speaks to his competitiveness. 325 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 5: And then quickly switching gears to Zach Sharbonnay. 326 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 6: Just one of the things that to me is so 327 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 6: obvious about him and why I think he's a terrific 328 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 6: fit here in Seattle is that he's just a very 329 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 6: different size and style of back than ken Walker. You know, 330 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 6: ken Walker is so quick, he's so instinctive and he 331 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 6: can make people miss and he of course can go 332 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 6: the distance. With Zach Sharboney, he is a little bit 333 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 6: more of a power back that's better in the in 334 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 6: between the tackles. He certainly has enough speed to get 335 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 6: to the outside four or five three was what he 336 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 6: ran the forty yard dash in. For a back of 337 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 6: his size, that's. 338 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 5: A good speed. 339 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 6: But at the same time, he also his game is 340 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 6: really power, it's physicality, and so I think that one 341 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 6: of the ways that you can keep ken Walker the 342 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 6: third as fresh as possible is to use Zach Charbonne 343 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 6: as a bit of a battering ram and so I think. 344 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 5: That the style fits. 345 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 6: But the other thing that's exciting about it is the 346 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 6: fact that Sharboney is kind of as pro ready as 347 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 6: it gets in a way, because think about it, he 348 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 6: was Chip Kelly was his head coach at UCLA former 349 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 6: San Fransco forty nine ers head coach, and then obviously 350 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 6: where he began his career at the University of Michigan. 351 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 6: That's Jim Harbor, another former NFL head coach. And so 352 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 6: it's the fact that you have a player that has 353 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 6: been productive in two very different offenses for two NFL 354 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 6: head coach. I mean, my goodness, that's about as pro 355 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 6: ready as it gets. 356 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: And Rob, when you did a seven round Seahawks Mouth draft, 357 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: who'd you have at number fifty two? 358 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 6: I did have Zach Charbonay. So it makes it a 359 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 6: little nicer when becoming you know, the pick that they make. 360 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned kind of the power he has 361 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 3: in the compliment to Ken Walker, because as long as 362 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: Pete Carroll has been here, he's talked about he wants 363 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: that one to two punch. 364 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: It's he had the perfect example of it in college back. 365 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: And then you know Reggie buschelln Dale White, and I 366 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: think he's always kind of been chasing that of I mean, obviously, 367 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: when you have Marshall Lynch, great, you have a Hall 368 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: of Fame caliber running back who never comes off the field. 369 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: But you know, for most NFL teams you need a 370 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: couple guys who can get the job done and play 371 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: different styles, and they're really looking to get that with 372 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,359 Speaker 3: Sharbonay to the mes. 373 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: And to your point, John, I mean, it's that's the thing. 374 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 6: It's like, Yeah, if you have a Marshawn Lynch, if 375 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 6: you have a guy that can be that belk out, sure, 376 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 6: but we just know that running backs are a position 377 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 6: of attrition. Yeah, they physically break down. So if you 378 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 6: can do that, have those complimenting styles, I think it 379 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 6: just makes sure your team that much stronger for the 380 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 6: long turn. 381 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: I do think we all got a little spoiled by 382 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: Marshaun Lynch from no question. He comes here in twenty 383 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: ten and he missed like one game until the twenty 384 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 3: fifteen season, and that is not normal that position. So 385 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: that's why I mean, I know some people like, oh, 386 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: you've drafted running back last year and you get him 387 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 3: those you need death of that position. 388 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and they don't like maybe that it was 389 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: a second round draft pick, But if you prize that 390 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: run game and everything that you can do off the 391 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: run game, why wouldn't I want one of the best 392 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 4: running backs in the draft. And this was a good 393 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 4: class for running backs, as I think is evident by 394 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 4: the fact that Kenny McIntosh is a seventh round pick 395 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: after winning a couple of championships at Georgia. Now I 396 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: understand that maybe his spring wasn't as great as he 397 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 4: would like and that he fell a lot, but again, 398 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: you talk about guys, there's a lot of draft picks 399 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 4: for the Seahawks that played in power conferences. They know 400 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 4: what this competition looks like if you're getting McIntosh, and 401 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how he fits in in the seventh round. 402 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 4: To go with Charbonnay, that position group looks much much 403 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: better than it did coming into the weekend. 404 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 6: Oh, my goodness, looks much much better. You're absolutely right, 405 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 6: you know again, I love Sharbonnay. I think that he's 406 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 6: just a perfect fit. That's part of the reason why 407 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 6: I made that projection. I didn't think the King McIntosh 408 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 6: should be available to them in the seventh round. 409 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 5: I had him as a fourth round player. 410 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 6: He ran a low four sixes at the Combine and 411 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 6: his pro day, and that's what I think turned some 412 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 6: people off because this running back class is very good, 413 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 6: and so by having a little bit slower forty yard dashtime, 414 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 6: I think that that kind of dropped him down some 415 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 6: team's boards. And I think that's a mistake, frankly, because 416 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 6: when I watched Kne McIntosh Georgia and all of the 417 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 6: number of backs that the Bulldogs have put into the 418 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 6: NFL in recent years, to me, there was zero drop 419 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 6: off between the guys that were selected in the first 420 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 6: or second rounds and then McIntosh following all the way 421 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 6: on the seventh round when he was called upon at Georgia, 422 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 6: he was absolutely spectacular. He's a great receiver out of 423 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 6: the backfield. It took him a couple of minutes, but 424 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 6: John Schneider remembered the comparison to Harvard Williams, the former 425 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 6: LC running back that was successful in the NFL with 426 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 6: the Kansas City Chiefs, and I can see that, and 427 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 6: that's Harvey Williams was a successful back as well. So 428 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 6: he's a little bit different than the backs at Sea 429 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 6: already has. Ken Walker is so quick, Sharbonne is a 430 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 6: powerful run of DJ Dallas is a good all around 431 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 6: back himself. McIntosh is a little bit more of a slasher. 432 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 6: He's a great receiver out of the backfield. He's going 433 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 6: to be spectacular on special teams. 434 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: You know. 435 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 6: I think that that was a home run selection, one 436 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 6: of my favorite picks for Seattle overall, and of course 437 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 6: he wound up going in the seventh round their last pick. 438 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 439 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: I mean I think you look at the forty speed 440 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: and you're like, oh okay. That's why I felt was like, 441 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: you don't succeed as a running back in the SEC 442 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: if you're slow, like I mean, he may not have 443 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: run well and had a tough spring, but you don't 444 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: have that kind of you don't play with without speed. 445 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: At that position in that conference. 446 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 3: So again, to add two different running backs, as Rob said, 447 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: very different styles that give you different skill sets. You 448 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 3: go into this draft with only two running backs and 449 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 3: you're thinking, okay, like, how's this going to look? 450 00:19:59,040 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: Besides Ken Walker? 451 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: I feel like you got a really good, diverse skill 452 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 3: set and some depth there. 453 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: Who wants to talk about big guys? Sure in a row, 454 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: Seattle takes four in a row in the middle rounds, 455 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 4: big guys. What do we got enough of the need addressed? 456 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 5: I hope? 457 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 6: So that that was my biggest concern if I had 458 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 6: to try to, you know, grade this draft class for 459 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 6: the CX, that would be the one caveat IVID throughout 460 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 6: there is that you are addressing their biggest area of 461 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 6: concern with middle round prospects. And so I think that 462 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 6: it's important that they got the four year starters, the 463 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 6: proven players that they did. You know, So I'll start 464 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 6: off here with Anthony Bradford. You know, he's actually kind 465 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 6: of the contrast to the rest of the group because 466 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 6: all the other ones were upper classmen. Bradford decided to 467 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 6: come out after his junior season at LSU. But talk 468 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 6: about a pro style offense and physicality and sec and 469 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff, and Bradford is a fascinating 470 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 6: story to me. He's six ' five, he's three hundred 471 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 6: and thirty pounds. He is just a physical moss, just 472 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 6: a big strong man. But he also tim much quicker 473 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 6: than you would expect for a big interior offensive lineman. 474 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 6: So he has the size that you want as a 475 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 6: big guy at the front at the point of attack. 476 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 6: But Andy Dickerson and what we've seen he the offensive 477 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 6: line coach of course to the Seahawks, what we've seen 478 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 6: him look to do in Seattle is bring some of 479 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 6: those the quicker kind of offensive lineman that he prioritized 480 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 6: in LA. 481 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 5: That's the thing. The beautiful thing about Bradford is. 482 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 6: That he is both that big, brawling type but also 483 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 6: is fantastically quick when he needs to be. And again, 484 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 6: johsh Shire kind of sided the fact that that Bradford 485 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 6: was asked to play left tackle the game that he 486 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 6: was there to watch. You can't kind of to your 487 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 6: point before about Kenny McIntosh. You can't play in the. 488 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 5: SEC unless you're a fast back. You can't. You can't 489 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: play left tackle in the SEC unless you are an athletic. 490 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: Can't be some big plotter who can't move yet. 491 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: But did that get because he played mostly on the 492 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: interier right guard? 493 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 5: Yep? 494 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 4: So did some of that quickness get hidden? I mean, 495 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 4: I don't think about a guard needing to be fast. 496 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 4: I definitely think about tackles needing to be fast. 497 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 6: Yep. 498 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: Did that get hidden somewhere along the way that? And 499 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 4: goodness knows, I don't really check out offensive line prospects 500 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 4: that heavily. So maybe everybody was talking about this and 501 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 4: I didn't know. 502 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 6: I think a lot of people did not see that 503 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 6: initial quickness because you got to really be paying attention 504 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 6: to kind of some of the little things, you know, 505 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 6: it's kind of like a baseball swing or something like that. 506 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 6: Everybody's got their own style. With Bradford, what really struck 507 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 6: me where I saw his quickness Jenna's is when he 508 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 6: was asked to block on the move and get to 509 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 6: that you know, release from alion of scrimmage and get 510 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 6: up to the second level and get those linebackers in 511 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 6: space and things like that. That's where he surprised me 512 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 6: with how quick he was there. You know, John mentioned 513 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 6: that you don't want to be a big plotter. That's 514 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 6: what you normally see for guys with three hundred and 515 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 6: thirty pounds is they struggle to get to that second level. 516 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 6: He was meeting linebackers there and then being able to adjust, 517 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 6: not just use his mask to block them. 518 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 4: I also think it's funny how we talk about weight 519 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 4: and what is needed at the NFL level, because wasn't 520 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 4: it Cameron Young, the detail ackle who, by the way, 521 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 4: has actually played end quite a bit. He's going to 522 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: be a nose yeah for Seattle. Just I just want 523 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 4: people to understand how large this man is and needed 524 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 4: to gain twenty pounds in six weeks. Is it just 525 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: like I could do that in a week. 526 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: And a half. 527 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: What took him so long? 528 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: John? 529 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: Like what? I don't understand? And also complimented that. For 530 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 4: somebody complimented me for gaining twenty pounds, I might not 531 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: be working out so much anyway. Okay, so what do 532 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: we got Cameron Young? Because I know that you're concerned 533 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 4: with maybe a mid round pick He is a big 534 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: body that also seems to be athletic. Might be just 535 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: what Seattle needs in there. 536 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's one of my favorite players. 537 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 6: Again, and this is a guy that was on I 538 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 6: have this list I called Rang's Gang and it's like 539 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 6: my favorite day two, Day three prospects and this has 540 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 6: nothing to do with the Seahawks and says to do 541 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 6: with you know, the players I like. And Cameron Young 542 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 6: was one of my Rangs Gang players because he, as 543 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 6: you said, guys who are six four, three hundred pounds. 544 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 5: It seems like everybody in the NFL anymore is that size, 545 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: and so. 546 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 6: I think that sometimes it's hard for listeners to try 547 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 6: to picture this body type. But Cameron Young is a big, 548 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 6: big man. He is even bigger than that six four, 549 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 6: three hundred and five three hund and ten pounds would would. 550 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 5: Lead you to believe. He's really broad. 551 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 6: He's got long arms, he's got massive hands, he's got 552 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 6: the true trunks for thighs. He's very difficult to move 553 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 6: off the line of scrimmage. That's exactly what you want 554 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 6: to know, is Garder do If you think about how 555 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 6: Al Woods and Brian Monet at times just dominated in 556 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 6: the in the middle. That's exactly what Cameron Young can do, 557 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 6: and that's why I think that he was a great 558 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 6: selection for the Sex again, one of my absolute favorite picks. 559 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: As John Shire said, his back is almost as wide 560 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: as Coach Hurts, which would be to Clinton Hurt and 561 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 3: if you've seen I mean. 562 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: He's a big man. 563 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, one thing I thought was interesting 564 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: at the league meetings in March, when John Schider was 565 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 3: asked about, you know, defensive line, the interior that guys 566 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: don't have, and tying that to the draft, he did 567 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: say that that is a position that maybe is a 568 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 3: little easier for rookies, not not the whole defense line, 569 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 3: but that particular like nose tackle, where you only have 570 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: so many different assignments. 571 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: Are asking that it. 572 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: Is a little bit easier of a rookie plug and 573 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: play position. So they were probably counting on, even if 574 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: we don't take a guy in the first couple of rounds, 575 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 3: we should be able to find someone who can play 576 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: right away, and they see that in Cam Young. 577 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: I also love when you got like that when you 578 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: tell me he was. 579 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: Like a starting basketball player, because I just love like 580 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: picturing in my head, big old plotting. 581 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say plotting. 582 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: He's athletic, but just big man like that, going down 583 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: the court and banging around. 584 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 6: And then the other thing too, is I think again 585 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 6: Seale's track record of finding these big guys late. Puna 586 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 6: Ford of course, was a starter for them for a while, 587 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 6: and he was undrafted free agents. And Brian o'ney is 588 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 6: a starting nose guard, he was a free agent. So 589 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 6: I think Seal's comfort with finding big guys on day three, 590 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 6: I think kind of speaks for itself. 591 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: I also think that it's the opposite end of the 592 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 4: spectrum that certainly had the media talking with Jeric Reid. 593 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: I thought John Schneider's description of him was very interesting. 594 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: You're too angry, little Elf his reference to the movie Elf, And. 595 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 4: While I laughed, I will not do that in front 596 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: of Jared. 597 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: No, he didn't sound phone call us, No, he sounded 598 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: he had just been drafted team. 599 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: Maybe that was the best time to talk to him. 600 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 4: Maybe he slips into intense mode after that one. But 601 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 4: the reason that he was so excited, and probably the 602 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: reason he was so intense, was that the thing and 603 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 4: the narrative that he feels he has to prove people 604 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: wrong is his height and that he can't play dB. 605 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: You pointed out John a little bit of the measurables 606 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 4: that Quandre Diggs has, and so I think Seattle's more 607 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 4: comfortable with that. But I am very curious to see 608 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: what role he fills because if he slides in it's 609 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: a nickel. That is a really crowded position or potentially 610 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 4: crowded position. 611 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: Right now. 612 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, initially we're off the bat. This guy 613 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 3: just screamed special teams. He did a lot of that 614 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 3: in college. He's you know, they were talking about how 615 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: physic gal he is and the hitter, so I think 616 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 3: that's where you find a roll right away. 617 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: But he talked about his versatility and that defense. 618 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 3: They ran kind of a three three five where they 619 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: have three safeties on the field a lot. You got 620 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: to be able to do a lot of different things 621 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: which they really like out of their safety. So this 622 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: is a guy. You know, I'm not going to pretend 623 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 3: I watched a lot of New Mexico football, if any, 624 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: so I'm not going to speak to his game. But 625 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 3: when you just tell me versatile defensive back, feisty, undersized, 626 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: six round pick like that, that's a lot of Quandary 627 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: Digs in there. So I do think maybe there's you know, 628 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: as Pete Carrel said, some similarity there. 629 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 6: And I think also with the ball skills. You know, 630 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 6: he only had the one interception this past season, but 631 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 6: I believe he had nine over his college career. The 632 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 6: interception that I do you remember watching was against Nevada 633 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 6: and it was a one arm or a one hand 634 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 6: over the shoulder kind of Willie May's kind of a catch. 635 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 5: It was a beautiful interception. 636 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 6: And you know, and again this is a player that 637 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 6: does have that chip on his shoulder, not only because 638 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 6: of the size, but he played in New Mexico. 639 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 5: We're talking about, you know, everybody else is from Georgia's. 640 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 6: From Michigan, is from this to that, you know, these 641 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 6: big time programs, and this guy's from New Mexico. And again, 642 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 6: just going back to what John Schneider said, it sounds 643 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 6: like he might just be the toughest guy in the 644 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 6: room kind of a thing. So I think that the 645 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 6: comparison or at least the similar style to Quandary Diggs, 646 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 6: I think is really interesting to me, just because of 647 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 6: the I think that he has the enough speed and 648 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 6: instincts certainly in the physicality to play that deep center 649 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 6: fielder role, but also slide down play that nickel role 650 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 6: as well. And it's that positional versatility as well as 651 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 6: the special team's mentality that I think again made it 652 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 6: such a great fit. 653 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 5: For the Seahawks. 654 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 4: It's going to be really fun to see these guys 655 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 4: on the field. And I cannot wait to see this 656 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 4: year's class with last year's class, because when you have 657 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: so many draft picks and there's so many similarities when 658 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 4: you talk about, you know, guys with something to prove 659 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: or chip on their shoulders. Every single guy that we 660 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: talked to following this draft had some sort of story. 661 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: You combine that with last year's class, you've got a 662 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 4: core group of players that has the potential to spend 663 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: several years together and really make an impact on the franchise. 664 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: I am super, super excited to see these guys on 665 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: the field. That will happen for Roockie, Minniicamp, for OTAs, 666 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 4: and then we will get underway with training camp. That's 667 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 4: a little ways awful. Let you sit with these draft picks, 668 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: let you do a little breaking down of your own. 669 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 4: But thank you Rob for helping us sort through what 670 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: this all means for the Seahawks John, it's always a pleasure. 671 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 4: And for you guys at home, thanks for listening. We'll 672 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: see you next time.