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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast Podcast. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go.

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Speaker 1: Hit that one from the parking lot.

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Speaker 2: What's up the general nation? Welcome to the Big Bets

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Speaker 2: on Campus Podcast presented by Bett MGM. This is the

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Speaker 2: College Basketball Conference Tournament Betting Preview, Part six. I'm stucky

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Speaker 2: in joining me tonight is mister Jim Root. It's been

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Speaker 2: twelve hours of Me and the weave. You are last,

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Speaker 2: but certainly not least to cap off this day of

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Speaker 2: conference from the previous you haven't heard previous episodes with

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Speaker 2: Kai and medic Cox, make sure you checked them out.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, gym?

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to go. Hopefully I deliver on the I'm

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Speaker 3: sure stellar performances for my two cohorts today. I will

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Speaker 3: try to cap it off with some more insights in

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Speaker 3: a couple of tournaments here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna cover the ACC, the Big Twelve, the AAC,

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Speaker 2: and Conference USA. Although I almost made you switch out

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Speaker 2: Conference USA for another conference after your wager on Western Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: So your worst wager of the year, No, I think

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Speaker 2: was it the Iowa game? Yep, late thirty two of

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Speaker 2: the Island I lost by nine.

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Speaker 1: That was pretty bad. You have a couple of stinkers.

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Speaker 3: I bet Old Dominion a couple of days ago and

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Speaker 3: they got smashed in the Sunbelt tournament. So yeah, you

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Speaker 3: just gotta you gotta take those on the chin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes they're nice though, You're like that one's done.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to pay attention to this and spit

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Speaker 2: it out. All right. Let's start with the ACC This

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Speaker 2: tournament we played in Greensbo, North Carolina. I was in

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Speaker 2: Brooklyn last year. It's back in Greensboro Tuesday, start, Saturday finish.

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Speaker 2: The favorite now, obviously shop around. Odds can differ a

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Speaker 2: little bit depending on the book. But the favorite now,

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Speaker 2: based on these odds I'm looking at here, Duke plus

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Speaker 2: two eighty. Virginia is the two seed, and Duke's the

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Speaker 2: four seed. For what it's worth, Virginia's the two seed

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Speaker 2: there plus three hundred, the one seed Miami plus three forty,

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Speaker 2: and then you have UNC and Clemson about six to one.

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Speaker 2: Clemson is the three seed. UNC's the seven and then

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Speaker 2: you're down to some longer shots NZ State twelve to one,

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Speaker 2: and then the drags, who we can pretty much right

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Speaker 2: looking at this bracket, now you're not gonna believe this,

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Speaker 2: But so one of the first things that I always

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Speaker 2: we talked about the ACC a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 2: So I take all the futures prices and then I

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Speaker 2: map out the money line rollover and then do a

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Speaker 2: probability tree, and just most of the time the money

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Speaker 2: Virginia Tech is fifty to one.

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Speaker 4: Here we go, and here we go the only team

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Speaker 4: that and look like per Torvik if you simulate he's

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Speaker 4: at forty to one, I'm at thirty five to one,

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Speaker 2: So if you look at Virginia Tech's path, and look,

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Speaker 2: I'm higher on Virginia Tech in the market in fairness

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Speaker 2: Then Virginia or UNC like four point dogs, and then

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Speaker 2: Now Maddox is not coming back with hurt. He's a

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're nuts at the price is solid.

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Speaker 3: It's a totally reasonable price there to to actually jump

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, Well outside of my insane obsession

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Speaker 2: you don't think any anyone playing on the first day

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Speaker 2: throw them out right. Florida State, Georgia, Tech, BC, Louisville,

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Speaker 2: second You know this second round, you have Syracuse taking

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Speaker 2: second round. That's I think that pretty much eliminates them

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Speaker 3: I am not interested in you and c especially at

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Speaker 1: And I think they're the best team in the ACC

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Speaker 3: You threw out NC State, you dumped them already, and

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Speaker 2: Don't you think it's a Concent's a bad matchup Frenzy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Clemson doesn't turn the ball over, which is kind

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Speaker 2: Yep. Another reason that I'm I like VA Tech because

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Speaker 2: I want to sell North Carolina. They just looked that

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Speaker 3: And I want to tell you, Jim, They've told us

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Speaker 2: Yep. And then I want to sell Virginia too. I'm

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Speaker 2: not a fan of this Virginia team. The defense is good.

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Speaker 2: like grinders with everyone. I mean, you go back to

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Speaker 3: but I do think the three most likely teams to

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Speaker 3: going to do what Carolina did last year? It's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. I mean if you look at Duke, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean their guys are starting to find their roles,

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Speaker 2: That's that's my question as far as like bigger picture

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Speaker 2: outside of the ACC tournament, like or is just acty?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It's not great.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like I'm sure people are going to punch

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Speaker 3: the holes and all the analytics stuff, like they don't

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Speaker 3: that's justified. I don't watch anybody and have anybody super

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Speaker 3: Miami because the guards are that good. Jordan Miller's like

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Speaker 3: They're giving up forty three's a game, and there are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who's who's been Monsanto's Ryan Mary replacement?

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised that it moved that much, just mostly based

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Speaker 2: Yep? I agree? All right, let's move on to our

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Speaker 2: But I have a couple questions for you.

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Speaker 1: Let's go top half to start.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll save our TCU horn Frog's love for the

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, i'd spoiler, and I hope, I hope TCU

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Speaker 2: In a second top half you have can Kansas is

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Speaker 2: Virginia I think is now officially clinched. It it's turn

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of where I land is that it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm a seller of Iowa State

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Speaker 2: they'll play TCU. TCU, who I have power rated higher

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Speaker 2: big twelve tournament more so than let's just rest up.

435
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: We're not getting a one seed, We're not getting a

436
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 2: two seed. You know, once you roll the ball out there,

437
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: you're going to try and win. But it's like a

438
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: mindset thing, you know, with Roy Williams and the old

439
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 2: Carolina teams, they used to say, like, he doesn't really

440
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 2: want to win the conference tournament. So but they're plus

441
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Speaker 2: eight fifty to compare to Kansas State. That game is

442
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 2: going to be a pick at worst. So that's odd

443
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Speaker 2: to me. What are your thoughts on the bottom half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked about it a lot, how much we

445
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 3: both love this TCU team, and I get the sentiment

446
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 3: of like wanting them to get healthy and don't go

447
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 3: out here.

448
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: But I don't know if they're going to listen to us. Unfortunately.

449
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 3: I think they're going to try to win this thing,

450
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 3: and I'm skeptical.

451
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: The one thing they could do is sit out Lampkin.

452
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 2: That's the one thing that they could do.

453
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: But Cork is pretty solid inside, and then they've got

454
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: their army of six seven forwards that can just assault

455
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 3: the glass too. It doesn't totally cripple them without Lampkin.

456
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I want the best version involves Lampkin for sure,

457
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 3: but I think they and still compete. And yeah, I'm

458
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Speaker 3: with you on KSE State. They're prone to tough outings

459
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 3: if either Noel or Kanta Johnson plays poorly. Like they're

460
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 3: so reliant on two guys, Desi Sales missed the last

461
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 3: game of the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Two.

463
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Speaker 3: I don't love kse State there either, And that when

464
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Speaker 3: you're talking about that price discrepancy, the TCU price is

465
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 3: way more appealing to me than the Kansas State one.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't get there with KSE State right here.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Kansas State's defense has been elite. Their

468
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 2: three point defense has been elite. All you're the two

469
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: point defense, you can get them at the rim. TC

470
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: doesn't shoot threes. They want to get everything at the

471
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Speaker 2: rim or in transition or on the offensive glass. Those

472
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Speaker 2: are the three week airs. Also, Kansas State will turn

473
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: to TCU can turn Kansas State over and then getting

474
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Speaker 2: out in transition. So I think it is a great

475
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: matchup for tc Like I think I have to take

476
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: plus eight fifty with them, even though I don't want

477
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Speaker 2: to write.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've played Texas really well both times. They

479
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 3: kind of controlled both and at Austin they let them

480
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Speaker 3: back in.

481
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Speaker 1: And Texas actually won.

482
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: TCU they like allowed a backdoor in the final minute

483
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 3: or something to not cover minus three, but like they're

484
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 3: up double digits in both games, Like played them really

485
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: really well. So if you get to that semi final,

486
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Speaker 3: kind of an appealing matchup for them there as well.

487
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Speaker 2: And then if you get Kansas, which would be the

488
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: favorite to come out of the top half, then you're

489
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: getting them in third game in three days with no

490
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: depth and the TVU.

491
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Speaker 1: Boat race them in Allen Field House.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Kansas City shouldn't be an issue, all right. Yeah. Plus,

493
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 2: if we're not going to hit the TCU national title future,

494
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: then this will be a nice consolation prize, even if

495
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: you know, someone gets banged up again. So I think

496
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Speaker 2: I have to take that. I just have to take

497
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: tc I was shocked that they I figured that they

498
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: would be the same exact price as Kansas State.

499
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have made more sense. I mean, it's

500
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 3: like one point on Kenpom. Maybe not everybody believes in

501
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 3: TCU power rating like the way you and I do,

502
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 3: having them even more slightly better than in case State.

503
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Speaker 1: But we got to trust our guns there.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as first round matchups or any other

505
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Speaker 2: potential matchups down the line, I mean, I'm going to

506
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: play Kansas if he's US a dog against KANSASA and

507
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm going to play them there or even a pick.

508
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm playing TCU for the matchup.

509
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: Also intrigued by the over there seventy five and seventy

510
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: six possessions this year, the two games that they played.

511
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: I think that'll be trackmeatish yep.

512
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Speaker 2: Digit Well, that's how TCU wants to play. And if

513
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: you turn it over and allow them to get in transition,

514
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: which KANSASATE will do and you can't defend in transition,

515
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Speaker 2: I think a twenty percentile per sentergy tz's going to

516
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: fill it up and they can get to the rim.

517
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't mind that. Overlook. Is there anything

518
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: you can do with West Virginia Texas Tech or is

519
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: it I don't know how Texas Tech's going to respond

520
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: to this. I'm staying away.

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think I'm probably staying away, Like Jeff Goodman,

522
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: tweeted that like the players want him gone, like they're

523
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: sick of playing for him. So I could see that

524
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 3: being like a breath of fresh air, where it's it's good,

525
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: it's a relief to have him out of there. We've

526
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: seen that in a couple places. I think Watford played

527
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 3: really well after McCauley left. I remember Seattle like two

528
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: seasons ago, when Hayford got out of there, they played

529
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 3: really well under Victor. I could see that being like

530
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Speaker 3: a boost to them. So I'm gonna stay away.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit that one out and then Oklahomas.

532
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Speaker 2: Any thoughts on Oklahoma State Oklahoma first round matchup?

533
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to say Oklahoma State owns them because

534
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 3: they controlled both matchups, but Avery Anderson played in both games,

535
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Speaker 3: so I don't know how much him being removed from

536
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: that concoction changes the dynamic of it. So definite lean

537
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Speaker 3: to Oklahoma State because the athleticism and they're okay playing

538
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: isolation on offense and the Porter Mooser underscreening defense forces that.

539
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Speaker 3: But without Anderson, I'm not super enthused about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly a different team without Anderson. As a reminder

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Speaker 2: This is another puzzle that I want. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: the AAC which if you saw today that the favorite

573
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Speaker 2: is obviously Houston. Here, who I think? Do you think

574
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: they locked up a one seat today?

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Speaker 3: I think so, big, big road wind. The worst they

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Speaker 3: can have is three losses. I mean, as long as

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Speaker 3: they don't dump one too like a quad four game

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Speaker 3: in this tournament. I think they're stuck on the one

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Speaker 3: line and there's just not a lot of teams like

580
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Speaker 3: right around there to pass them.

581
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Speaker 1: So I think they're going to be a one.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Well, Houston is clearly the favorite. Let me pull

583
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: up updated odds. Houston's minus three hundred, Memphis the two

584
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: seats plus four fifty. Cincinnati is twelve to one, tu

585
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: Lane twenty to one, Wichita State thirty to one, Keppel

586
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: thirty to one, UCF forty to one, and then you're

587
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: down to the dregs South Florida SMU, who is awful.

588
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: Toll is awful, ECUs. I mean a lot of injuries

589
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: in this conference that we can talk about throughout. So

590
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: let's just start with the top two. So Houston's minus

591
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Speaker 2: three hundred and Memphis plus four fifty. I generally end up.

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Speaker 2: I think I cashed on Memphis one year, came up

593
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Speaker 2: short the other. I generally end up. I play Memphis

594
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: every time they play Houston. They're now seven and zero

595
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Speaker 2: against the spread in the regular season of the past

596
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: four years, eight and one if you include conference tournaments.

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00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: It's very similar to why I always play I played

598
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: Kentucky against Tennessee both times this year as a dog,

599
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: like you're there playing. There's just so much talent and

600
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: then they can create. There's just so many athletes all

601
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: over that it kind of disrupts what Houston can do defensively.

602
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Speaker 2: Just Memphis just matches up really well with them. They're

603
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Speaker 2: not afraid, and they just have dudes. I think they're

604
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Speaker 2: a top twenty team. So if Memphis got to the

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Speaker 2: final and I had a plus three forty in my pocket,

606
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: I'd feel pretty damn good and like have know that

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Speaker 2: I have a puncher's chance. I mean even they played

608
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Speaker 2: Houston at Houston with an eight without Kendrick Davis, which

609
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: should tell you something. But if you look at Memphis, Yeah,

610
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: and someone asked me today how good is Memphis? I

611
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: said that I have them top twenty right right around twentieth,

612
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: and they can beat anybody in this field. They also

613
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: could lose to anybody. So if you look, I assume

614
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: UCF is going to get by SMU and UCF and

615
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: Memphis had some wars this year, and I think this

616
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: could be an opportunity for UCF to potentially I mean,

617
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: Memphis beat him by one at home and then lost again.

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Speaker 2: They probably should have won in double overtime at UCF UCF.

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Speaker 2: That's a potential lottery pick. And Taylor Hendrix, who if

620
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Speaker 2: you haven't seen these awesome freshman Darius Johnson, their point

621
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Speaker 2: guard was hurt for some time. He's come back and

622
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Speaker 2: they've lost just a ton of close games, like they

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Speaker 2: lost the Temple in overtime. They lost to Memphis by one,

624
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Speaker 2: they lost to Cincy by two, they lost the Temple

625
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Speaker 2: by two. But the talent is there is so like

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Speaker 2: I'm a bit afraid of that. Do I trust Memphis

627
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Speaker 2: to get by that matchup? And then if you look

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Speaker 2: in the bottom half, you have Whichita State I should

629
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Speaker 2: get their leading scoreback? He was out with an illness

630
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Speaker 2: the past couple of games. Which State should beat Tulsa?

631
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Speaker 2: Tulsa's dreadful. Tulane's kind of been fading down the stretch

632
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: and they have no depth, no depth whatsoever, And I

633
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: think that they're just running on fumes. But Tulane, I think,

634
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: swept Memphis and put up like ninety five both times.

635
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Speaker 2: So Memphis has some potential land mines. Houston, on the

636
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Speaker 2: other hand, up top you know, south far to ECU. Sorry,

637
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: you're not going to pose a threat. Temple did beat

638
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: Houston at Houston then got destroyed at home since he

639
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: played Houston tough, but the path for Houston is pretty

640
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Speaker 2: easy to get to the championship. The question I have

641
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: for you is can Memphis have avoid those land mines

642
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: just like UCF for uh you know, does Wichita does

643
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Speaker 2: one of the other long shots have some value down

644
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Speaker 2: in the bottom hal So let's let's start. Let's start

645
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: easy one top half. Any threat to any real threat

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Speaker 2: to Houston on the.

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Speaker 1: Top half, No, I'm not worried about it.

648
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: Like you said, Temple beat them once, but Cale Battle

649
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: played in that game and he is away out the

650
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: program or whatever is going on there. Yep, Cincinnati's playing better,

651
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: But I just Samson has owned Cincinnati like the same

652
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: way Memphis has been great against the spread against Houston.

653
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who's been coaching Cincinnati, Cronin Brandon Miller,

654
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: Samson's been dominant against that team. So I'm not worried

655
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: about that top top half portion.

656
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: I think Houston will be and Temple show just took

657
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: since he at home without Battle to overtime and then

658
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: beat them at home, So that's not a gimme for

659
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: since he either.

660
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

661
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel pretty confident Houston's coming out of

662
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: that top half. Then the bottom is where it gets adventurous,

663
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: and I think I think uc F forty to one

664
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: is the one that like intrigues me.

665
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: They felt like the team that.

666
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: Needed the reset button of the postseason, like the injuries

667
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 3: that kind of wore them down through the regular season.

668
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: You mentioned all the close games they played they had Houston,

669
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: like a one possession game in the final minute in Houston,

670
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: that that team has a lot of talent when they're

671
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: actually healthy, and that's where they're at right now. I

672
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: went into this thinking Memphis would be my pick from

673
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: a value perspective, but I don't like their draw. Like

674
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: you said, UCF's there, Tulane has given them so much

675
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: trouble with those matchup zones if they end up playing Tulane.

676
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: Even Whichita has been kind of feisty with Memphis hasn't

677
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: actually beaten them. But so yeah, a lot of the feisty,

678
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: intriguing teams are all in that bottom half with Memphis,

679
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: so uf those at that number is interesting to me

680
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: because I don't care about the first round game, like

681
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: the fact that they have to win for well, when

682
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: one of them is.

683
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: SMU, I don't that's that's fine with me.

684
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you cef that. The other game they played

685
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: against Houston, they lost by eleven. I had them plus

686
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: ten and a half. It was miserable. There was a

687
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: flagrant at the end, but they made that. That was

688
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: way close than the final score. So yeah, they I

689
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: don't think that they would be afraid of going up

690
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: against Houston if they got there, and then you probably

691
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: have a hedge opportunity if you wanted it. But I agree,

692
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: I think because you sef they played SMU once they

693
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: won by thirty two, I'm not concerned about them. I

694
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: think SMU stinks out loud. So you know, I think

695
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: that they they can cruise in that game, which is

696
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: important because you're gonna have to win four and four

697
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: days and then yeah, I think if they can get

698
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: by Memphis, then you have you know, the two lane

699
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: is I think fading and yeah, I would like them

700
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: over Wichita. So can they beat Memphis? They showed it

701
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: the talents there. I think that's the look is U

702
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: see f.

703
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they split with Memphis, lost by one and had

704
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: that crazy double overtime game.

705
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: It was like a war of attrition.

706
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: Memphis kind of blew it late and let you see

707
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: it back into it, so they can definitely beat them, Stucky.

708
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: The question I have for you is how much do

709
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: do we just continue hammering against Tulsa Who's like four

710
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: and twenty four against the Sprint this year?

711
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: It is insane. They have The only game they won

712
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: since beating Mississippi Valley State in mid December was against

713
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: Tulane in overtime. Yeah, they they can't. I think they

714
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: covered against East Calendar depending on the number you got,

715
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: but they are just it's it's a miserable situation. Yeah,

716
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: they play Wichita, they lost by eleven, and then at

717
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: they lost by four at Wichita. What's that line going

718
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 2: to be like twelve ish?

719
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be a shocker.

720
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: I just I'm going to bet against the team that's

721
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: covering twelve percent of their games and live with the results.

722
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Walton should They said Walton's gonna play

723
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: for Wichita right in the tournament.

724
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

725
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 3: I don't know if Tulsa's gonna get Griffin and Pritchard back,

726
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: but without them, I think they're just fully hopeless because

727
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: they have no shot creation.

728
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're a miserable team to watch. And the

729
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: other thing is they don't like they should play much

730
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: slower with their offense, but they don't. They don't do anything. Well,

731
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: I guess, like, yeah, it's a it's just a miserable team. Yeah,

732
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: I think it's us to look. I also think and

733
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: just if Memphis plays Houston in the final, that Memphis,

734
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: you're gonna get value in that number, that it's probably

735
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: gonna go down. It's every time it'll be it'll be

736
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: plus open plus. I'm gonna say eight and.

737
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 1: A halfs that's too many, and.

738
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: Then you take it, it'll close seven.

739
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: Would you parlay Houston with anybody like another? Would you

740
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: take the minus three hundred and throw them in with

741
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: somebody out of another conference?

742
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: Or is that not intriguing to you?

743
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't take Houston just because, like

744
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: if they because I don't like the matchup against them.

745
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: So if they get to Memphis and I don't think

746
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: u CF will be afraid and like then they're not

747
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: playing for anything. It's just tournaments in four Worth, Texas.

748
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, I would just be afraid of Memphis.

749
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: So at minus three hundred, it's a pass for me. There,

750
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: all right, one final conference tournament to get to. If

751
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: you were gonna put parlat would you who would you

752
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: of something? Of a team that's left.

753
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: Someone's like looking through that and I think maybe, uh,

754
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: Botach grown in with minus two Okay, Houston.

755
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: Houston's gonna ruin that. Houston's gonna ruin that against.

756
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: Memphis, either Iona or Vermont. I think probably ver Month

757
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 3: feels actually a little bit safer to me. I don't

758
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen in the MAC although they are

759
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: playing awesome lately.

760
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: Is can they Yeah? Well, uh yeah, I ownA. We

761
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: talked about this. I talked about this with Maddie. The

762
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: interesting thing about that Iona draw is like the four

763
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: or five in the top half or just fading, and

764
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: then the eight nine Canisius and Mount Saint Marriage are

765
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: like the hottest teams in the league, So like the

766
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: eight nine game could be tougher than the four or five,

767
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: although I think Siana should be. I think they might, Dyavid,

768
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 2: I don't know why they've been so bad, so maybe

769
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: this is what they needed. A first star in the tournament,

770
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: But they're healthy now. Anyway, Conference USA.

771
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 1: The Frisco Disco.

772
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: Isn't this, by the way, any of the I forget

773
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: Greensboro ACC. Is that an over over gym?

774
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: I'll pull it up, but yeah, you're you're getting to it.

775
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: The Frisco Disco is an under?

776
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 2: Is it under? Because they play like multiple there's like

777
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: a curtain, right.

778
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, they played simultaneous games in a football stadium.

779
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: Unders are thirty.

780
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: Three and eighteen since they moved it there, covering by

781
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 3: an average of almost four a game, like saying under

782
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: by almost for a game, So it's it's definitely worth

783
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: the look. It is a strange shooting background there.

784
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the new arch Madness. Like arch

785
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: Madness used to be free Unders, but the market has

786
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: caught on. I don't what did they do this year.

787
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I started to every Southern Illinois under, but.

788
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: They started way over and then the like Semis and

789
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: Final I think I came back down started the Unders

790
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: had a resurgence, but it was like five and one

791
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: overs the first six games of arch Madness.

792
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: It was like, all right, this is dead. It's not

793
00:37:59,239 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: a thing anymore.

794
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean those and those numbers before used to

795
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: come out and then they would they would drop eight

796
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: points within two hours. But now the market is opening

797
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: them much more efficiently. In the market continues to get

798
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: much more efficient each year. So yeah, that isn't under gym,

799
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: and I don't know if the market's fully caught onto

800
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: it yet. So if you're into betting opening totals, you

801
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: might want to glance there. Okay, did you want to

802
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: jump in? That's off the No, No, did you did

803
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 2: you look at did you pull up Greensboro?

804
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: Now this is only up ten and eight of this

805
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: is the last five years if you go all the

806
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 3: way back.

807
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: Is that just in Greensboro? Yeah, because it was in Brooklyn.

808
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: It's so justin Greensboro.

809
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: Thirty one and twenty two to the over So Greensboro

810
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: has been an over venue for sure.

811
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

812
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: I think I remember like people saying, like players saying,

813
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: it's a good as good shoot shooting lines site lines

814
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: for shots for what it's worth. All right, So the

815
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: conference to USA Florida Atlantic is the top overall seed

816
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: and this game is in This tournament's in Frisco, Texas,

817
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: start Wednesday in the first round championships. On Saturday, FA

818
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: used the one seed. The two seed in the bottom

819
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: half is North Texas. UAB is the three down there

820
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: with North Texas, Middle Tennessee and Charlotte will play in

821
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: the four to five game, which is also a quarterfinal

822
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: matchup on Thursday. Those top five teams get a buy

823
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: into the quarters. The first round matchups your Western Kentucky

824
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: Hilltoppers taking on UTEP, FIU taking on La Tech, and

825
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: Rice taking on UTSA. The saddest thing that happened. I

826
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: been waiting for this bracket and like was watching the

827
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: standings because I wanted to bet UTEP against Rice because

828
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 2: the Rice coach, Scott Parrat was it was the most

829
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: obnoxious celebration I've ever seen in my life. When Rice

830
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: hit a game winner against UTEP, was like waving them.

831
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: Uteph wouldn't shake their hands. He was talking to UTEP,

832
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 2: he was celebrating with boosters. It was obnoxious. The quotes

833
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: from UTEP after that game where I was like, I

834
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: cannot wait till they play. If they play and they

835
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: couldn't be further apart in the bracket, it sucks to

836
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: wait till next year. Maybe we're gett a UTEP Rice

837
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: final and then I can get my revenge, but I

838
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: don't think that's gonna happen. So if I use the

839
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: favorite here plus one forty five UAB in North Texas,

840
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: Evenlee price right around plus two fifty Charlotte fourteen to one,

841
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: Middle Tennessee eighteen to one, and then you're down one

842
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: hundred to one Territory. Let's start first teams playing the

843
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: first round. I mean, I hope you're not gonna make

844
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: a case for Western Kentucky LA Tech. Not this. I

845
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: mean they lost since losing Kobe Williams, They're not the

846
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: same team. They have one win. I think it was

847
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: an overtime over FIU, who they will play in the

848
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 2: first round Rice, who has the opposite of depth. They

849
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: have no depth. They have no chance of winning four

850
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: games in four days. They'll take on UTSA. Grice has

851
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: also been fading. Utsa is one of the worst shooting

852
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: teams in the country, but they're still playing hard. But

853
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: anyone in that first that's playing the first round worth

854
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: of flyer will be crossing them all off.

855
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to maybe get interested in UTEP.

856
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: But I don't like the draw at all, So I'm yeah,

857
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm not going to bet any any of those I like,

858
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: I think the winners coming from the top three, and

859
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: unfortunately the prices are factored in there.

860
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't love the value in this this one. I'm

861
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: just gonna bet the unders. That's the plan.

862
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: Stuck yep, well in the top half. So if we

863
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: assume fau Is going to get by Western Kentucky, the

864
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: winner of Western Kentucky, you tap. Although you know those

865
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: teams have talent, right, I mean, but at fau Is,

866
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: they're kind of built for a tournament setting with how

867
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: they come at you.

868
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 3: But I literally wrote in my notes, this is a

869
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: tournament team with like the depth and the multiple scores,

870
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 3: Like it just makes sense.

871
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Middle Test. So they're gonna play if they get

872
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: by their quarter final matchup, they're gonna play the winner

873
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: Middle Tennessee Charlotte. My thoughts on that matchup, like, you

874
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: can't can you trust Middle Tennessee away from Murphy's Borough? No, right,

875
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: And they need to get to the rim. Everything they

876
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: want to do is get to the rim. So theoretically

877
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: away from Murphysboro against Charlotte, Tony Elliott, Disciple pack line

878
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: d Tommy Elliott, Tony Elliott, Tony Elliott, Tony Bennett disciple, like,

879
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: I like, I kind of like Charlotte in that game.

880
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: I just don't trust Middle Tennessee state away from home.

881
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: Can Charlotte ugly up the game enough against FAU and

882
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: just make that a shitter as they want to do,

883
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: or does FAU just have too much talent.

884
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: They've tried In the first meeting at FAU, it was

885
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: a fifty nine possession grind fest. It was close in

886
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 3: the final minute. Charlotte cut it to two with like

887
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 3: a minute left.

888
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: FAU hit a couple of big shots late.

889
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: I think they compete there, like whatever the number is there,

890
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: Given how slow Charlotte's going to make that game, I

891
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: think there's some intrigue on betting the dog and taking

892
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: the points with Arlotte if they get there. And I'm

893
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: with your Middle Tennessee outside of Murphreys bro but totally

894
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 3: different team. So yeah, I think Charlotte is there and competes.

895
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the only potential long shot that I

896
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: was looking at, because the other thing is that, what

897
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: do you want from a potential long shout. Charlotte's what

898
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: but fourteen to one. It's not a super long shot.

899
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: But since I like them in the first matchup schematically,

900
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: then they're gonna have to pull off a couple upsets.

901
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: But they grind the game down right, So limited possessions,

902
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: higher variants. They shoot a ton of threes and they're

903
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: pretty good from three, So just chuck, get a bunch

904
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: of threes up in a limited possession game. If they

905
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 2: get hot, then that's kind of what you're looking for

906
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: in one of these dogs. And I just don't see

907
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: anyone else I trust, but you're right, it's probably going

908
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: to come. That's the only team that I would potentially

909
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: look at if you're looking for a longer shot. If

910
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: we assume that FAU gets to the final, I agree

911
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: with you that it looks like I mean FIU La

912
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: Tec winner that I don't think can beat North Texas

913
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: Rice utsa winner I don't think can beat UAB, So

914
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: one of the games that I would look forward to

915
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: the most out of any matchup. This kind of reminds

916
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 2: me of like a Charleston Towson. I can't wait to

917
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: watch tomorrow. UAB in North Texas will be awesome, assuming

918
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: that we get that matchup in North Texas swept them

919
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: during the regular season, one of them I think went

920
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: the double overtime. But UAB is playing excellent now, Jolly

921
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: Walker's back fully healthy. Their half court offense is now

922
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: like usually it's like, hey, we need to get out

923
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: in transition cose their half court offense is now playing

924
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: really well, which is important against North Texas because you

925
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 2: want to talk about a team that will turn games

926
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: into an absolute shitter. Savy cake at North Texas Charlotte

927
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: in this arena, what would the total be? Ninety eight?

928
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: Those two played a forty seven possession game Stuck Charlotte, so.

929
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: That total was one o eight right in the one under.

930
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, it's they have played some absolute slotfests.

931
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 3: It would be very funny to see them with this

932
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: shooting background too.

933
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: In this gym.

934
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: It'd be like forty five possession and no one makes

935
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 3: a jump shot.

936
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: It would be gruesome.

937
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the lowest one I've seen in

938
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: a lot. I think it was North Texas Charlotte, right,

939
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: I think it was one of late this year.

940
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: Yep, that was the one.

941
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so well, we're not going to get that unless

942
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: Charlotte makes a run to the championship. Then you'd have

943
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: tired legs too. Third game in three days. Oh my god,

944
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 2: that total might be ninety eight and a half. North

945
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: Texas UAB Like a lot of people if they're in pools,

946
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: if you know, if you want to take these two

947
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: teams are priced similarly. They're probably going to play ache

948
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: in the semis. Who number one? Who wins that game? Where

949
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: you don't know and it's a complete toss up, but

950
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 2: who do you favor?

951
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: I kind of lean you a Bee. I don't know

952
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: for sure what Kai Huntsberry's.

953
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: Status is for North Texas. He sat with an ankle injury.

954
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: He was dressed in their their finale, So I think

955
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: he's gonna be fine because they didn't need life or anything, right, Yeah, Yeah,

956
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: they were locked into the two seat, couldn't go anywhere.

957
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: And hey, they still beat WKU by a bajillion points

958
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: in that game, so that was a bit of a bummer.

959
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: But so I think he'll be back in there. But

960
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: the two games that they.

961
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: Played were close enough. It felt like.

962
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: UAB had every chance to win. It's not like a

963
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: matchup that they can't handle. So I do kind of

964
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 3: lean towards you AB and the way that they're playing

965
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: right now, Yeah, I.

966
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: Would to in Walker. We trust and then that half

967
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: court offense is playing good enough now that I think

968
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: it would take the third.

969
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: The cavit I would say, is like is this venue

970
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 3: conducive to the grinding half court teams?

971
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: Like? Is it?

972
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

973
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: Oh, it's harder to score. North Texas lives in that muck.

974
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: Charlotte lives in that muck. Maybe it's good for them.

975
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: We'll see. Yeah.

976
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: Last, what was that game last year North Texas I had,

977
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: I took law Tech against LA Tech won forty two

978
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 2: to thirty six.

979
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: That was the final score in the semis ridiculous.

980
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 3: Then two years ago they played Western Kentucky and it

981
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: was forty eight to forty eight to go to overtime.

982
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeap, Like, there have been some ugly games in this tournament.

983
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: I had Western Kentucky in that game. That was painful. Well, West,

984
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: I got to ask you about Western Kentucky, like they

985
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: have town talent? Is is Frampton just that important?

986
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: Like?

987
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 2: What is wrong with them?

988
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 1: Man?

989
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know, because there before I took

990
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: them because partially because North Texas was locked in their

991
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 3: seed and Western Kentucky's forty two and twenty six and

992
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: now forty two and twenty seven against the spread as

993
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: a dog under Stansbury. That's when that talent rises up

994
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: and competes. Is kind of what you said about Memphis

995
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: playing Houston. They rise up against opposite talent level. But

996
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: it seems like that that's just not going to be

997
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: the case with this year's Hilltopper squad.

998
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't make a case for them. They have talent.

999
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: I can't mean they also have no depth, But I

1000
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 2: mean you gotta say you have a seven foot five

1001
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: kid in Sharp you know they have talent on the outside.

1002
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: It's just, yeah, there's just something that's off. I guess

1003
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: one one final question here is FAU. Who would you prefer, Like,

1004
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: say you were an FAU backer, would you prefer them

1005
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: against North Texas or UAB. Do you think one of

1006
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: the other has a better chance of matching up better

1007
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: or beating FAU? Is there completely different styles?

1008
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be a little more scared of UA

1009
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: B UA. B's had them both games, like they did

1010
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: beat them once. In the first game, they kind of

1011
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: had them in Boker a tone and Florida Atlantic made

1012
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 3: a couple of shots late like it was a eighty

1013
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: two seventy six lead with three minutes left, and UAB

1014
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 3: just couldn't score the final couple of minutes, which is

1015
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 3: really rare for them. I think ua B is more

1016
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 3: scary to me with FAU. The nice part is that

1017
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: they're in no matter what. I kind of want two

1018
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: bids out of this league. So I'm gonna be I

1019
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: love FAU, but I'm going to be cheering against them.

1020
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, uh, is are they one hundred

1021
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: percent soon? I think I would assume they're one hundred

1022
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: percent right or because they're not gonna be one of

1023
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: those weird like when VCU got left off. Remember that

1024
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: year they were like eighteenth on Kembom and they got

1025
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: left off.

1026
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: I don't think it'll happen. I think they're I think

1027
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 3: they're safe.

1028
00:48:53,760 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: And then final question here is FAU, UAB, North Tech Sis.

1029
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: Obviously it's matchup dependent, but if you were like doing

1030
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: a calcuttaut right now, and you knew all three we're

1031
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: going to make the tournament, say in a hypothetical world,

1032
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: who would you be looking to buy?

1033
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: I think I'd take FAU.

1034
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: I just love the different weapons they have, Like it's

1035
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: not one or two guys.

1036
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: They don't need a jellywalker thirty five point game.

1037
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: To beat a better team, and ib's history against power

1038
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: conference competition is not very good despite having a lot

1039
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: of that talent and fau Man. They beat Florida at Florida.

1040
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: That's the best win. Castleton was playing in that game.

1041
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: And they've got like the two centers plus seven shooters

1042
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: and playmakers like it is such a fun makeup of

1043
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 3: a roster.

1044
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: I love the Owls.

1045
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can just have a number of guys that

1046
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: on any given night, like if someone's off, it doesn't

1047
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 2: really matter, someone else can step up and go off. Yep,

1048
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: all right, good stuff. In Conference USA will be looking

1049
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: for some unders in the Frisco Disco. So to recap

1050
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: ac I'm taking a flyer on vottec As. I think

1051
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 2: everyone who listens to this podcast probably already knew Jim

1052
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: is rolling with the dookies Big twelve. I think we

1053
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: have to look TCU at plus eight fifty coinfiit at worst,

1054
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: and I make them a favorite against Kansas State, who

1055
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: they match up well with, and then then you know

1056
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: they would presumably play Texas, but Texas could trip up

1057
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: against Oklahoma and TCU I think matches up pretty well Texas.

1058
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: Then if the Chalk holds Rock Chawk holds, then you

1059
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: get a Kansas team with no depth, three games in

1060
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: three days, and you've already taken care of them in

1061
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 2: the state. So I think TCU plus eight to fifty

1062
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 2: you have to take it. AAC. You're kind of wait

1063
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: and see. I mean, sorry, Conference USA, You're just let's

1064
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: look unders. You think it's they're going to come from

1065
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: the top three, but there's no value there.

1066
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1067
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one's even three to one, so I'm not

1068
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: gonna not gonna mess with any futures. Then AAC is UCF.

1069
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 3: That's that's when I got to forty to one.

1070
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 2: Yeap, forty to one, I agree with that. I'm gonna

1071
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: take a little shot on UCF as well. Conference USA.

1072
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: If you are just looking for a long shot, or

1073
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: if you're in a pool and you want to be different.

1074
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: The only team I could make a case for, just

1075
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: as we talked about, would be Charlotte that I like

1076
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: their first round matchup and then they're just that high

1077
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: variance type of team, be low possessions. I'll shoot a

1078
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: ton of threes and they'll just ugly it up, which

1079
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: in this venue might work all right. Jim so appreciate

1080
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: you giving me your time. I'll ask one other question

1081
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: that I asked both Matt and Kai one any other

1082
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: conference cert if that's going on right now, so it

1083
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: could be an updated future or one that we didn't

1084
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: talk about. Is there a future that you fancy that

1085
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 2: wasn't covered today.

1086
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: I could talk myself into New Mexico twelve to one

1087
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 3: of them out in the West, but I haven't talked

1088
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: about a bracket, is it okay?

1089
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I tried to. I tried to map out

1090
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: the money line rollover, and I was I was getting like, now,

1091
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: New Mexico has zero depth, right, and they're just so

1092
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: relying on their guards. They don't have any bench, which

1093
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 2: is problematic. I have to win four in four days.

1094
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: But I was getting around like, wasn't was right around

1095
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: the price where if I was doing a money line rollover?

1096
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on the Big ten bracket just came out?

1097
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I haven't seen that yet.

1098
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 3: Gosh, just even thinking about the teams in that league,

1099
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 3: the ones like I'm not.

1100
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: Super sold on Purdue.

1101
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: They're clearly not playing well right now, so you don't

1102
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: have to ride with the high seed there.

1103
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: So due the top yeah, the bottom Indiana is Everyone's

1104
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: gonna bet Indiana, but I'm curious to their price. Indiana

1105
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: is the three seed, they're in the bottom half with

1106
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: Northwestern is the two and they both have double buys.

1107
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: Indiana will play the winner of Maryland or Nebraska Minnesota.

1108
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: Everyone knows roade Maryland the Maryland away from home whatever

1109
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 2: I mean. Indiana isn't a great away from them either,

1110
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: but everyone's gonna say Indiana moves on. Then Indiana would

1111
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 2: play either Northwestern with Rusty's gonna play the winner of

1112
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: Penn State Illinois. Illinois can't beat Penn State, which is interesting,

1113
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: but Illinois are they a potential course there? A lot

1114
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: of people are gonna have Indiana moving on in the

1115
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: bottom half. In the top half, Rutgers plays Michigan in

1116
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: the eight nine winner plays Perdue and then you have

1117
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: Michigan State is the other team of the double bye.

1118
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 2: They'll play the winner of Iowa or Wisconsin or Ohio State.

1119
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: Any thoughts are you meting Ohio States? That's my first question.

1120
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: I gotta see the price. I don't know, I don't

1121
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: know what they're gonna give us. I think I'm gonna

1122
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 2: bet them against Wisconsin. I've been betting. I've been meting

1123
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: Ohio State every game over the past three and it's

1124
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: worked out, and I'm riding them until it flames out.

1125
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: If I can get like they're They're gonna start with Wisconsin.

1126
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: They can win that game. Then they're gonna play Iowa.

1127
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: They can win that game. I mean, any Iowa can

1128
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 2: lose anybody. Then they play Michigan State could win that game,

1129
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: and then they probably can't beat Perdue, but maybe Perdue

1130
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: goes down to like Michigan. If I can get an

1131
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: outrageous price in Ohio State, can they put it the guy?

1132
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: And they're playing better now that they have talent? I

1133
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 2: don't know. They gotta win five games in five days,

1134
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna need a really good price.

1135
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: That's the tough part.

1136
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: The one I wanted to back was Illinois, But like

1137
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 3: you said, I hate that draw.

1138
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: Penn State owns them like Pick has given business.

1139
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, just they have no one to defend him.

1140
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: Yep, So no, that spooks me off. Then yeah, all.

1141
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: Right, Well we'll be talking about that in the SEC

1142
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: and the A ten. That's that's what I asked you about,

1143
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: since I think you were maybe originally going to do

1144
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: that A ten. Are you the one, maybe the only

1145
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: one in the country that can figure out the A ten?

1146
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: No? What what? Okay?

1147
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: If there is someone that can perhaps to them, but

1148
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: I don't have a great read on that one.

1149
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the first time since the field has expanded

1150
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: to sixty four teams nineteen eighty five that the A

1151
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: ten does not have a automatic bid. Excuse me? Ah,

1152
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: what am I? What's the word I'm thinking of?

1153
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: At large?

1154
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: An at large contender? Like, there's not there's no one

1155
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: that's you can even say maybe them. This is a

1156
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: pure one big league. Dayton is the favorite of plus

1157
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 2: one sixty. How can you trust Dayton as a favorite?

1158
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: Like there you can't try. I can't trust that team

1159
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: as far as I can throw vs US plus one eighty.

1160
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 2: That's probably who I would lean to. I think that

1161
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: they're the best team in the league. But yeah, I

1162
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: mean Fordham twelve to one.

1163
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: For them dance. I want it. I want for them

1164
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: to go.

1165
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: First time since ninety two. I think that they would

1166
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 2: go dancing. And maybe this is the air I mean.

1167
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: Davidson is the sixth favorite of twenty to one. This

1168
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: conference is anyway we'll talk to Aten tomorrow. I'm rambling, Jim.

1169
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,759
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