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Speaker 2: Yeah, in surprise surprise.

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Speaker 3: People want to talk more about end times and Mark

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Speaker 1: That could be literally what's two episodes ago? Yeah, was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So we'll get to that. And so this

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Speaker 1: We're gonna look at this through a biblical worldview. The

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Speaker 1: podcast email is podcast at grangersmith dot com. Podcast at

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Speaker 1: What's this guy's name, Seth?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Seth brings up a fascinating topic. What you got?

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Speaker 3: He said, Hey, Granger, A buddy of mine sent me

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Speaker 3: Thanks for always tackling these kind of questions with a

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Speaker 3: Will this widen the digital divide? And you know security?

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Speaker 1: Now I know in real time your heart rate, how much,

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Speaker 1: guy that drives a two thousand and four pickout. Yes,

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Speaker 1: still have a cassette player, that's right, And I will

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Speaker 1: tell you I don't miss I know that car plays awesome.

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Speaker 1: It's really cool to have CarPlay in your car. I

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Speaker 1: don't have that. I haven't had that in several years,

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Speaker 1: and I also haven't missed it. So I think I

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Speaker 1: would call myself an early adopter on certain things as well.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm interested in the new Apple whatever. I'm

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Speaker 1: interested in translation. I've told you this before, like I'm

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Speaker 1: interested in real time translation devices for mission work. But

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Speaker 1: there are certain things if I've cut them out of

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Speaker 1: my life, I don't miss them anymore. I like driving

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Speaker 1: the old truck. So I've been researching these glasses as well.

485
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Speaker 1: Like the glasses, technology is getting bigger and bigger, and

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Speaker 1: eventually more and more people will be wearing smart glasses.

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Speaker 1: They will be listening to music on them. They will

488
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Speaker 1: be taking videos, which is strange to me, taking pictures

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Speaker 1: like metas Yeah, like metaglasses. You know, there are glasses

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Speaker 1: now with that shoot a little a tiny camera onto

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Speaker 1: the lens so that you could read things. People could

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Speaker 1: give speeches, you could you know, Yeah, you could connect

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Speaker 1: your phone to the glasses on an app and have

494
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Speaker 1: an entire speech. You know, go out there and do

495
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Speaker 1: a ted talk or a sermon, I guess you could say.

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Speaker 1: And you're reading reading at the back of the lens

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Speaker 1: of your glasses. That's that's strange. But as in a

498
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Speaker 1: world that's trying to get away from cell phone distraction,

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Speaker 1: are we fixing that problem by putting on glasses Like

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Speaker 1: you might be looking at me, but I happen to

501
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Speaker 1: know you're reading off the back of the lens. That's

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Speaker 1: something we're gonna.

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Speaker 2: You can't see.

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Speaker 1: I can't see it, uh, Which, by the way, I've

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Speaker 1: seen some videos you can on certain angles, Like if

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Speaker 1: I learned look at you, it's just a certain way

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Speaker 1: I could see a little shimmer of green. Okay, I

508
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Speaker 1: know you're reading.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. They'll get rid of that soon.

510
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Speaker 1: That'll go away. They'll figure out how to how to

511
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Speaker 1: get rid of that. So we're in a little bit

512
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Speaker 1: of a disadvantage right now because as we record this podcast,

513
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Speaker 1: Apple has yet to make their.

514
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Speaker 2: Big but when you're watching it, they will.

515
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Speaker 3: And yeah, wasn't there talk of them doing something with

516
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Speaker 3: chat GBT that's a non phone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Apple's been all over They've there's been so many

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Speaker 1: rumors about Apple has something that's going to replace the phone,

519
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Speaker 1: and then that there was another thing you and I

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Speaker 1: talked about that Apple is announcing soon that they will

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Speaker 1: be adding a critical device to your your the pairs

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Speaker 1: with your phone and your tablet and your whatever.

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Speaker 2: Which they could have now already talked about. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: yeah on the.

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Speaker 1: Release Yeah, oh man, so so before okay, so I

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Speaker 1: think that's kind of enough. On the device itself, we

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Speaker 1: we know that it's going to be implanted into your skin,

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Speaker 1: it's going to take biometric readings off you, it's going

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Speaker 1: to power off of your body, or we read that

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Speaker 1: it could power from the from RAF or Wi Fi,

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Speaker 1: or it could have tiny batteries, like like thin tiny

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Speaker 1: batteries that just last a very very long time.

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Speaker 3: I could also I mean our phones lay on a charger.

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Speaker 3: Our minds, yeah, put on the mag safe. But what

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Speaker 3: if sitting in the chair that I'm sitting in now

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Speaker 3: that my arm just rests on the armsts and there's

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Speaker 3: a charger underneath it.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that could charge that way. So it's going to

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Speaker 1: have a brain in it like a you know, a CPU,

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Speaker 1: and it that then will speak to secondary devices like

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Speaker 1: earbuds or glasses so that you could read or you

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Speaker 1: could listen. So if you want directions, there's no more phone, right,

543
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Speaker 1: so you get in your car and it's speaking directions

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Speaker 1: to you or showing you the directions on the back

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Speaker 1: of your glasses. Our brains are like David Letterman in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. Right now, we can't quite imagine what

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Speaker 1: this is going to look like. But it's coming. I

548
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Speaker 1: think part of this podcast is to say it's coming.

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Speaker 1: So how do we think through it. Let's let's talk

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Speaker 1: just for a second about Bill Gates. Okay, all kinds

551
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Speaker 1: of things like that that this news is surrounding him.

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Speaker 1: I don't trust this guy at all? Right, do you

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Speaker 1: trust like inherently I don't trust this conspiracy stuff that

554
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Speaker 1: I'm messing with him?

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Speaker 3: Particularly? Yes, I don't. Sorry, the answer is no, I

556
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Speaker 3: don't trust it. But it's kind of that whole the

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Speaker 3: whole genre, I don't know if that's the right word,

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Speaker 3: but the whole class of billionaires that you have contributed

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Speaker 3: greatly to our way of life.

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Speaker 1: Now, I mean in some great ways, some great ways.

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Speaker 3: But then I think that there's sometimes that when you

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Speaker 3: have so much money that and and get into just

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Speaker 3: a different world that you don't think like normal people

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Speaker 3: do anymore. And I think that they're out of touch,

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Speaker 3: way out of touchy, way out of touch with any

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Speaker 3: normal living human being.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's an example of that is like all the

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Speaker 1: all the social media creators that don't have social media

569
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Speaker 1: and tell their kids don't have it, don't get social media,

570
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Speaker 1: and they're literally the ones that created it. And you

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Speaker 1: see the same thing with guys like Bill Gates. It'll

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Speaker 1: create monsters and they know they don't use it.

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Speaker 2: Y is he going to do one of these ones?

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Speaker 1: I want to know. I almost want to say. I

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Speaker 1: think that's what I texted Tyler and Parker when they

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Speaker 1: Tyler texted this article. I said, you first, Billy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stick at your arm, you get it first.

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Speaker 2: He won't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he will. I'd be very interested. I

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Speaker 1: could be wrong. I'd be interested. So immediately we think

581
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Speaker 1: of like the Epstein connection with this guy. You know,

582
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Speaker 1: so many, so many controversial with them. You remember that

583
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Speaker 1: Ted talk in twenty ten, You remember this is it.

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Speaker 3: When he's talking about the vaccines and such.

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Speaker 1: He was talking about what sounded to me like population control.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do, oh, I know exactly. Yeah, that was

587
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Speaker 2: a Ted talk. Okay, it was a Ted talk.

588
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Speaker 1: It was called innovating to zero or he outlined ways

589
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Speaker 1: to reduce CO two admissions. He's all about climate change

590
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Speaker 1: and saving the world, saving the world. He's all about vaccines,

591
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Speaker 1: which is scary stuff.

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Speaker 2: Best way to save the world to get rid of

593
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Speaker 2: the people in it, right.

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Speaker 1: So that's what it started to sound like. Look, he said,

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Speaker 1: he this is his quote, if we do a really

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Speaker 1: great job on new vaccines, healthcare, reproductive health services, we

597
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Speaker 1: could lower population growth by perhaps ten or fifteen percent.

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Speaker 1: Close quote. Think, just absorb that for once again, If

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Speaker 1: we do a really great job on new vaccines, healthcare,

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Speaker 1: reproductive health services, we could lower population growth by perhaps

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Speaker 1: ten or fifteen percent.

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Speaker 3: That makes that's so counterproductive. You know how else we

603
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Speaker 3: could lower population growth is to not do anything for them,

604
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Speaker 3: like what, yeah, so don't get anybody in healthcare, so the.

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Speaker 1: People that have The way he defended that was he

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Speaker 1: was saying, look, that's you guys are taking us out

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Speaker 1: of context. I'm not talking about population control. I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about poisoning people, which is you know immediately what

609
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Speaker 1: we hear. But he the way he defended he said,

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Speaker 1: when child survival improves, right, when when children live longer,

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Speaker 1: because there was so much child death, you know, and

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Speaker 1: set in third world countries. He's saying, when families choose,

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Speaker 1: then if if children live longer, if their life's life's improved,

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Speaker 1: their health improves, then families will choose to choose to

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Speaker 1: have fewer children, which then is a form of population control.

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Speaker 3: Is his argument that in these sort of third world countries,

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Speaker 3: that they're having kids that only live a few years.

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Speaker 1: That's his argument.

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Speaker 2: They're having more children, that's right, that's right, okay.

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Speaker 1: And so that they they they're getting poor and more

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Speaker 1: poor because they're having more children and a higher percentage

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Speaker 1: is dying. So he's saying, like, if we could just

623
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Speaker 1: keep the initial babies healthy, they would stop having more babies,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, that's a great thing, and the critics

625
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Speaker 1: are like, oh yeah, the guy's brilliant. I still struggle

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Speaker 1: with why this is good though, Like why we should

627
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Speaker 1: get better vaccines to save more children? Great, stop there,

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Speaker 1: but continue saying because then that will make our population

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Speaker 1: less by ten or fifteen percent, and then that's good.

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Speaker 3: That seems counterproductive to me. Am I missing something on

631
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Speaker 3: that because I get that, so if it allows that

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Speaker 3: person to live longer, it's going to actually grow it

633
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Speaker 3: unless you're doing something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He explained that as health improofs, this is his worth.

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Speaker 1: As health improoves families choose to have fewer children. But

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Speaker 1: that's the thing, because this is also connec to this.

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Speaker 1: Uh what do you call the health services when you

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Speaker 1: talk about women's.

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Speaker 3: Health CDC and like that's the Center for Disease Control.

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Speaker 1: But uh, but when when he's talking about this that

641
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Speaker 1: he's talking about, he's talking about abortion.

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Speaker 3: Ah yeah, yeah, when it comes to reproductive health.

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Speaker 1: Reproductive health, that's what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they disguise that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's talking about he's talking about if we

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Speaker 1: could just if we could have better vaccines and better

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Speaker 1: reproductive health quote quote in Africa for instances, which where

648
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Speaker 1: he works a lot, then there would be less starving

649
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Speaker 1: children because there would be less children. Yeah, I guess

650
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Speaker 1: that's one way to stop, you know, starving children. To

651
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Speaker 1: help to help fix the pandemic of starving children, you

652
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Speaker 1: just have less of them. That's one. That's one way, Bill, Okay.

653
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Speaker 1: So that's so this is the same guy now saying

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Speaker 1: and I want you to implant this tattoo that knows

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Speaker 1: everything about your biometrics, and that's gonna that's gonna help

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Speaker 1: the world. So while I hear your argument on adopting

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Speaker 1: early tech for convenience sake and connecting all and the

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Speaker 1: first argument of we're heading we head down a road

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Speaker 1: away from the rotary phone, where if you don't start

660
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Speaker 1: adopting new things, you can't function in society anymore.

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Speaker 2: Can I pause you for saying yah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Because while you were doing that, I looked up

663
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Speaker 3: and I got three articles on this that are current.

664
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Speaker 3: One came out, two came out today, the third one

665
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 3: came out three days ago. US population decline declines looms

666
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: by Sorry, US population decline looms by twenty twenty five.

667
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Speaker 3: Economic impacts and solutions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a decline.

669
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Speaker 3: Yes, Greece suspends five percent of schools as birth rate drops. Yes,

670
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: the Guardian really transitional moment. What should we do about

671
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: declining fertility rates? Yeah, population growth isn't the issue. No,

672
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 3: population decline is the problem right now. Yeah, I didn't

673
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: see it in this, but I heard it the other day.

674
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: Was that in one it was one country. You know,

675
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Speaker 3: forgive me for not knowing right off the top of

676
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Speaker 3: my head, but it was like Italy or if something's

677
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: not done by this date, and it's like, you know,

678
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: ten years or fifteen years, this country will no longer exist.

679
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Speaker 1: No, that's absolutely right, and there are I think Japan

680
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: is leading that charge right now. Wow, Like Japan is

681
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: the first country to now their birth rate has dropped

682
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: below their death rate, so the death rates higher than

683
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: the birth rate, and that is like the US is

684
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: like right the same, We're about the same right now.

685
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: Babies are born and people die about exactly the same.

686
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Speaker 1: This is this is a crazy statistic because there's there's

687
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Speaker 1: a lot of people that say that study these kind

688
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: of things, that say that's irrecoverable. You can't fix that.

689
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Speaker 1: You can't well, once you once you hit neutrality, the

690
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: death rate and the birth rate. Oh, you can't fix it.

691
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: You're only going to go down there. There's no way

692
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: you could recover because that the babies are too young.

693
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: It takes generations and it's too late. And it's not

694
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Speaker 1: just a physical thing. It's a it's a mental thing

695
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 1: people don't want. That's that's what Japan is really struggling with. Yeah,

696
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: it's not a physical thing. It's it's not like we

697
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: just need to get these women to start having more babies.

698
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: It's they don't want to. Yeah, they don't want to

699
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: have baby. They don't want to get married, they want

700
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: to have a career. The men don't want to get married.

701
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: They enjoy the bachelor life. They don't want to get married.

702
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: They don't want a family, they don't want to be free. Yeah,

703
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: they do if they get exactly. So it's a mental

704
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: hurdle that that it's almost impossible to get over. Bill

705
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: Gates's argument with all of what you're saying, Greece, America,

706
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: what are the other countries you named?

707
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: I just said, and the other one was just a

708
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: it just talked about declining fertility to right, So we're.

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Speaker 1: Talking about Greece we're talking about US, We're talking about Japan, France, Japan,

710
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: We're talking about England, Germany. These are all the problem countries.

711
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: But those are all the countries that have good.

712
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 2: Health care, good in quotes.

713
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Speaker 1: So what Bill Gates is arguing is he's saying, look,

714
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: the countries with good health care, they don't make as

715
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Speaker 1: many babies because they don't have to because the babies

716
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: they have are fine. He's saying the problem is Africa

717
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: and India, where they don't have good health care, so

718
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Speaker 1: they have a lot of babies, but there's a there's

719
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Speaker 1: a certain amount of racism by saying that a class racism. Sure, Yeah,

720
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: by saying, we've got to stop this India, India, Africa rise,

721
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: so we need to get them better healthcare like Germany has,

722
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Speaker 1: like Greece has, like the US has. Because those people

723
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Speaker 1: have good health care and they don't want to make babies,

724
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Speaker 1: that's what we want. He's not saying it exactly like

725
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but that's what he's implying.

726
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can see that.

727
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: This is fascinating stuff. And so once again here's the

728
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: same guy now wrapped around this new tech.

729
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sorry, I backed up on that. But

730
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: that is they gave some tie to the person who's

731
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: behind this.

732
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Speaker 1: Here, here's a guy too. That's he's an older man.

733
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's what late fifties, early sixties, maybe I

734
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: might guess maybe a little older than that. And my

735
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: point to saying that is he's got a few more

736
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: decades on this earth. Yep, that's it. So he won't

737
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: live to see the all this stuff played out. He won't.

738
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Speaker 1: So these are all just ideas. But if he has

739
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: a certain worldview, and the worldview is class control, population control,

740
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: elimination of a lower class. You know, if that's his worldview,

741
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: then he's starting irreversible effects.

742
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Speaker 2: He's sixty nine, by the way, whoa.

743
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: So he doesn't I mean sixty nine. We might hear

744
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 1: that he has a heart attack in five years. Okay,

745
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: how do we think through this with the Bible? Let

746
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: me say, first and foremost, getting a tech like this,

747
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: getting an electronic tattoo does not withhold you from heaven,

748
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Speaker 1: from salvation. You're saved by grace through faith. This is

749
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Speaker 1: not your own doing. Is the gift of God, not

750
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Speaker 1: a result of work. So that no man may boast

751
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: there is nothing you could do to lose that. So

752
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: a person that is saved by grace through faith can't

753
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Speaker 1: get a thing or a tattoo or a something that

754
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: that eliminates them. It is as we talked about in

755
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: the episode of Market the Beast, it's about worship, it's

756
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Speaker 1: about idolatry. So it would be it would be connected

757
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: not just getting a tattoo. It would be connected with

758
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Speaker 1: worshiping whatever is not God. The first commandment, you shall

759
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: have no other gods beside Me and number, and the

760
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Speaker 1: second commandment you shall have no carved images.

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Speaker 2: You know, So you these statues, which is yeah, statue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So something you said before we started recording was

763
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Speaker 1: that it's not so much the idea of a tattoo.

764
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Speaker 1: That's that's the problem that the mark of the beast

765
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Speaker 1: if thought if thought of, as we talked about a

766
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: little bit with like relation ate and last couple of

767
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: weeks ago, is the market the Beast is made possible

768
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Speaker 1: with a tech like this. Tech like this doesn't have

769
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Speaker 1: to be the mark of the Beast, right or the

770
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: market of the Beast could be a result of a

771
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: tech like this. So if you were ever in a

772
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Speaker 1: situation where you couldn't buy or sell. It would be

773
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Speaker 1: a choice that the human makes, not to get the tattoo,

774
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: but to worship the image. If you don't worship this,

775
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: we don't activate your currency through your tattoo. See that's

776
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Speaker 1: a big difference.

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00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: Or think of it as a as an app on

778
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: your phone right now, Yeah, you worship this abomination and

779
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: you download this new app, yes on your skin tattoo. Yeah,

780
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: And what John was seeing was people buying and selling

781
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Speaker 3: with this mark on their phone head or on their

782
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: on their hand. And that's what this is speculation at

783
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: this point. But could it lead to it?

784
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, it could lead to it.

785
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Speaker 1: And so kind of like we said a couple weeks ago,

786
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: you can't accidentally get the market of the beat, right,

787
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: and that's not what this podcast is about, but it

788
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: has those implications. You can't accidentally get it, but you

789
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: could get it and then make a conscious decision to

790
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: worship something that's not the lure, right, And so you

791
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: would have to do that, it would And getting a

792
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: tattoo doesn't eliminate you from heaven. Worshiping another god does, right, right,

793
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: So you would you could get it and then go,

794
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: I must up, I'm not going to activate that I'm

795
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: not gonna do this anymore.

796
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: I'll use that phone then, you know, tattooed on my skin.

797
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: But I'm sure not going.

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00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 2: To bow to the idle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I'm i won't be able to buy yourself. Yeah,

800
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: and I'm going to live with I'm gonna die of starvation.

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00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: Your software has been disconconnected.

802
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, that's right. Yeah, your subscription has ended.

803
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: The subscription has ended.

804
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: You can no longer buy oursel using your whatever they're

805
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: calling this. Yeah. I think a lot of it too

806
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: is the warning. I think in all of this is

807
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: not to be consumed, like we talk about in the

808
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: other episodes too, not being consumed with the who the

809
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: who the Antichrist is, but more so who Jesus is

810
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: and what he did for you. I think in this

811
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: this whole thing too, is not to be so wrapped

812
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: up your life, to be wrapped up so much in

813
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: this tech and things that are man made.

814
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Speaker 2: And the Bible does.

815
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Speaker 3: Warn about that, you know, of of of putting your life.

816
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Speaker 3: In fact, in Isaiah, I'll turn there real quick. But

817
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: and in Isaiah talks about you know, don't go look

818
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: to don't go look to Egypt and the horses and

819
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 3: the chariots to to save if you look to God.

820
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Speaker 1: You're talking about Isaiah thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Isaiah thirty one, I can't talk and.

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Speaker 1: The time I I can't multitask either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's first for Jeremiah.

824
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the top of Isaiah thirty one.

825
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, read that of thirty I'm almost there thirty one,

826
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Speaker 3: Right at the very beginning. What sorrow awaits those who

827
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: look to Egypt for help, trusting their horses, chariots and

828
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: chariot tears, and depending on the strength of human armies

829
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: instead of looking to the Lord, the Holy One of Israel,

830
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: I think of anything. The warning here is not to

831
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: let your life be consumed by and I'm pointing finger

832
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: it myself, is don't let yourself be consumed by staying

833
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: up with technology. Yeah, and forget about the Lord and

834
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 3: think that that's the answer to all of your issues

835
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 3: and all your.

836
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: Problems and all you know it's going to be. It's

837
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Speaker 2: going to save me.

838
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: Yes, where are you drawing your strength from? What are

839
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: you making the plans? Are you trusting the Lord because

840
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: he directs the steps? Romans twelve to two may be

841
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Speaker 1: the most classic verse we've gone to in this podcast

842
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: for years. Romans twelve two. I appeal to you, therefore, brothers,

843
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as

844
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Speaker 1: a living sacrifice wholly unacceptable to God, which is your

845
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: spiritual worship. Verse two. Here we go, Why, Paul, Why

846
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Speaker 1: should I? Why should I present my body as a

847
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: living sacrifice, wholy and acceptable God, which is my spiritual worship?

848
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Speaker 1: Why do not be conformed to this world? He says,

849
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: would be transformed by the renewal of your mind. That

850
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: by testing you may discern what is the will of God,

851
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: what is good and acceptable and perfect. So there is

852
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: a in our faith. We don't rely on emotions or experiences,

853
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: our feelings. We use our minds and we discern, and

854
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: we test, and our discernment is trained, Paul says, by

855
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: constant practice to distinguish good from evil. And he also

856
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: says to Timothy that that training comes from scripture, from

857
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: understanding who God is through scripture, because he said all

858
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: scriptures breed out by God and profitable for teaching, for proof,

859
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the Man

860
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

861
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: So train yourself to distinguish good from evil and right

862
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: here in Romans twelve two, test to discern what is

863
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: the will of God? How by not conforming with the world,

864
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: but being transformed by the renewal of your mind. That is,

865
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Speaker 1: unlike any other religion. Don't conform to the world, be

866
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Speaker 1: transformed by renewing your mind. How by testing it according

867
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Speaker 1: to the scripture, distinguishing good from evil? Who is God?

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Speaker 1: And who has God said that? Who has God told

869
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Speaker 1: us that he is as He's revealed himself in his word?

870
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Speaker 1: And test everything else against that. It's like one test

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Speaker 1: when someone says, like I'm trying to decide to watch

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Speaker 1: this TV show or not. I'm trying to decide to

873
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: listen to this music or not. It's so easy if

874
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: you ask one question, does by doing this, does it

875
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: get me closer to God or further from God? And

876
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: if the answer is if the answer is neutral, then

877
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: it's further.

878
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

879
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: So it's like if you're trying, like I don't know

880
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: if I should watch this movie, well is it? It

881
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a Christian movie to be to

882
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: watch The Lord of the Rings, for example, and go

883
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: I see a great enemy, and I see a great good,

884
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: and I see the struggle of good triumphing over evil,

885
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: and that that makes me think of the Lord and

886
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: our in spiritual warfare and his and our our struggle.

887
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: You know, like, okay, then good, then Lord of the

888
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Rings would actually help you get closer to God. That's

889
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: a small example of like a secular movie. And so

890
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: you could do that with everything. So you could say,

891
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: would this tattoo, electronic tattoo get me closer to God

892
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: or further from Him?

893
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: Well?

894
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that right.

895
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: Now, And if you just simply took how but even

896
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: before we hit record on this is what would I

897
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: use this for?

898
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: Well?

899
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: How could this benefit helping spread the gospel? That's your

900
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: answer from the beginning.

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00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: I guarantee you my answer to a smartphone is yes,

902
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: it gets me closer to God. I guarantee you that

903
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: for many reasons. Now, if I got rid of my smartphone,

904
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: would I get me further from God? No? And that's

905
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. I'm saying. But by having it

906
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: as a tool, I could right now text to brother

907
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: and say how you doing your mother? Your mother passed

908
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: away two months ago? How are you doing to day?

909
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: Brother?

910
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: I could take let's go to lunch. I could do

911
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: that and a lot faster than a letter or a courier.

912
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: And there's no difference in in just the parameters of it.

913
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: Difference in that and a hammer. You decide how you

914
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: want to use it, because the hammer can destroy the

915
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: wall behind you, or it can put up the boards

916
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: that build that wall. It's the person using it. And

917
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: what you know, if you get this tattoo because it

918
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: helps you do what you can say? What if this

919
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: helps you translate going on a mission trip helps you

920
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: translate much quicker and connect with someone much easier and

921
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 3: be able to share the Gospel in their language that

922
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 3: they can understand. That's the answer right there.

923
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know what you're saying with that argument

924
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: is just a couple of pages back for me, and

925
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: I would say it would be the famous Romans eight

926
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Speaker 1: twenty eight. We know that for those who love God,

927
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: all things work together for good. All things, all things yep,

928
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: work together for good. And that can include a electronic

929
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: tattoo for those who are called according to His purpose,

930
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 1: for those for whom he fore knew He also predestined

931
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: to be conformed to the image of his son and

932
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: order that we might be the first born among many brothers,

933
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: and those whom he predestined he also called, and those

934
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: we called he also justified, and those who we justified,

935
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Speaker 1: and he also glorified. I look at I think about

936
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: First Thesalonians. Towards the end of the chapter, he says

937
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: he's talking about a stain from every form of form

938
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: of evil, and he says, test everything, hold fast, what

939
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: is good? Test everything? So like that could be a

940
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: theme of this whole podcast. Should I get it? I

941
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: don't test it. I don't know. But but how do

942
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: I test it? By testing it against who God says

943
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: he is? Who does he say he is? Well, you

944
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: have to know who he is according to the way

945
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: the scriptures revealed him. How do you know that? Because

946
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: all scriptures bread that by God and profitable for teaching, reproof, correction,

947
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: for training and righteousness. Well, how do I train myself

948
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: by not conforming to the world, but being transformed by

949
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: the renewal of my mind, so that by testing I

950
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: can distinguish what is good and acceptable and perfect.

951
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: Right?

952
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: So these scripture a test to itself as we walk

953
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: through it. How to handle even electronic tattoo or anything

954
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: place anything in there? What do I do with this

955
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: test everything and hold fast what is good? How do

956
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: I know what is good by distinguishing good from evil?

957
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: How do I do that by training? How do I

958
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: do that by reading the scripture? What does that do?

959
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: Because it gives light to who God is? And once

960
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: I see him for who he's revealed himself to be,

961
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: I could trust him and I could know what is

962
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: good and acceptable imperfect by not conforming to this world.

963
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: You see, this's like this scriptural loop we can go

964
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: through and just answers every question back to back to back,

965
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: including electronic tattoos.

966
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's something I don't know what you were saying.

967
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: That also struck me from some thing I read this

968
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 3: week too, and it was the parable of the shrewd manager,

969
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: just in that it's in Luke sixteen, but a particular verse,

970
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: and here it says, here's the lesson use your worldly

971
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: resources to benefit others. If what you have, use it

972
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 3: to benefit those that God is calling.

973
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: You to minister too. Yeah, to benefit others.

974
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: I would say, on top of all these things, there's

975
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: there was be one strict warning for this, and it's

976
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: not be careful. It's not the mark of the beast.

977
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: I think we've covered that you can't accidentally get It's right,

978
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: you'll be actively worshiping. But the but what we should

979
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: warn against is is like we would warn against with

980
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: anything else, do not idolize this very important. Don't idolize tech.

981
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: Don't let it become an idol, don't let it become

982
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: an addiction. Paul says that that anything is lawful, lawful

983
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: for me, and everything is. But yeah, we we have

984
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: to understand that yet not everything is profitable, not everything

985
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: is good. It might be lawful, Like would it be

986
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: lawful to get this electronic Yeah, sure, but that's that's

987
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: not always profitable for me. So so how does Paul

988
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: remedy that? Well, he says, I will not be addicted

989
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: to anything, yep. So if it becomes an addiction, it's

990
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: becoming an idol.

991
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 2: Let's say that definitely applies to tech, and.

992
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: That applies to tech. So if this thing becomes something

993
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: that we would idolize, then we're breaking the first commandment

994
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: and we're putting another god before him, and then at

995
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: that point we're in serious trouble, far more serious trouble

996
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: than getting a mark of the beast yep, Because now

997
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: we've put another God before him, and we will be

998
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: judged for that. And how to how to how to

999
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: stop that? How to remedy that? You need a new heart?

1000
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: How do you get a new heart? Trusting, believing in

1001
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: the resurrection of Jesus, that he died, went to the cross,

1002
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: lived a perfect life that we couldn't, and upon his

1003
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: resurrection said look to me. Turn from yourself, turn from

1004
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: your idols, turn from your technology that you've trusted and

1005
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: looked to me, and trust in me, and you'll be

1006
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: saved and forgiven, which is something that is the greatest

1007
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: need of all humanity to be forgiven of our sins,

1008
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: our sins that have separated us from a holy God. Yeah,

1009
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: so amen, I think would you get it? Do you

1010
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: get this thing? Like I said, probably, The answer is probably.

1011
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: I would be in probably the first twenty percent, twenty

1012
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 3: five percent.

1013
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: It'd be some testing before me.

1014
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you right now that on the phone

1015
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 3: sitting down there, I've had the new iOS twenty six

1016
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 3: first beta all the way through where we are well,

1017
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 3: I'm now we're past it. It's out for everybody now.

1018
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 3: It is the operating the newest operating system. But when

1019
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 3: it was in beta fe Yeah. I love playing with

1020
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 3: that stuff and figuring it out.

1021
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: So let's add to the original question. Is Bill Gates's

1022
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: new electronic tattooed demonic?

1023
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 2: Ooh?

1024
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 3: Is it demonic? I mean anything could be? The I

1025
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: mean can be depending on what's used for again, the hammer.

1026
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: What's the hammer being used for?

1027
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: Is the hammered demonic?

1028
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1029
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the hands of the right person, that's right,

1030
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: swinging it at the right thing. Yes, sure, demonic?

1031
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: So yes, it could be. Is it in it of itself?

1032
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: Now I don't think.

1033
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree? All right, Love you guys, see you

1034
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: next episode. Thank you so much for hanging out with

1035
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: me on this episode of the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate

1036
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: you being here. If you're listening right now, go ahead

1037
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: and rate today's podcast. It helps more folks find the show.

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1039
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,319
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1040
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1041
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1043
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1044
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: on the show, just email me podcast at grangersmith dot com.

1045
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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you. Thanks again for being here.

1046
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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time, ye ye