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Speaker 1: Everybody. It's Bill Courtney with an army of normal folks.

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Speaker 1: And we continue now a part two of our conversation

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Speaker 1: with Sam Fleterjohn right after these brief messages from our

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Speaker 1: general sponsors.

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Speaker 2: So we watched the video and he watched it with me,

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Speaker 2: and then I watched it again.

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Speaker 1: What does the video do?

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Speaker 2: The video it just explains to you the risk, what

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Speaker 2: it means, why a living donor is better than a

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Speaker 2: cadaver donor. It just explains what it will look like

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Speaker 2: for you as a donor, more so than what the recipient.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to know that. I'm sorry this

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Speaker 1: is I'm going to keep this chronological, but this is

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Speaker 1: where the questions come in. You're watching a video that's

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Speaker 1: we're gonna cut your body open.

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Speaker 2: Well, their cartoon characters, what's that happening? Their cartoon characters matter.

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Speaker 1: It's still your body and you're gonna be down for

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Speaker 1: two weeks. You're going to have to be away from work,

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Speaker 1: and somebody's gonna have to take care of you, and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go through all of this for

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Speaker 1: someone that you have never met, don't know, don't love,

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Speaker 1: or don't care about.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Okay, But yet you're down for three weeks.

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Speaker 2: You're down. Somebody gets their life back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're giving up so much of your life.

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Speaker 2: But they're getting their life back. How is that? How

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Speaker 2: is that comparable? How is that comparable? I just somebody's child?

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Speaker 1: What getting your kidney taken out?

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Speaker 2: Worth it? I do it? If I had, if I

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Speaker 2: had five more, I do all of them. He gets

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Speaker 2: his life back. How is I don't undert I just

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Speaker 2: it's a hard concept for me to understand how it

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Speaker 2: was disruptive to our life.

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Speaker 1: Metaphorically. It feels like you're still hiding people under the sheets.

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Speaker 1: It's just doesn't it's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: I have a hard time wrapping my brain around not.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's the most difficult thing for me is

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Speaker 2: that people wouldn't understand that I am in a position

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Speaker 2: that I can't physically. My children are born right, I'm

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Speaker 2: still young enough to do it. I'm Why would I not?

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Speaker 2: Why would I not not? Why would he not? Why

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Speaker 2: would I not? When I feel the need, I feel

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Speaker 2: the desire, why would I not?

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Speaker 1: An army and normal folks is all about just normal people.

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Speaker 1: We've never heard of seeing an area of need and

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Speaker 1: filling it and I guess the question is why would

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Speaker 1: we not? So you watch a video, and.

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Speaker 2: So you watch the video, they don't. They don't follow up.

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Speaker 2: You have to follow up that well, there's no pressure.

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Speaker 2: They do a great job. And I followed up about

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Speaker 2: three days later and said I'm in let's let's do

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Speaker 2: the testing. And then they ask you do you have

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Speaker 2: somebody that you're interested I said no, particularly, I just are.

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Speaker 1: They looking at you kind of crazy, going, really, you

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Speaker 1: don't have anybody you're interested in them, and you're just

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Speaker 1: willing to do this.

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Speaker 2: Boy, they did a good job hiding it. I think

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Speaker 2: they were just I could see some excitement and but

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Speaker 2: they didn't. I don't. I didn't know. I was really

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Speaker 2: so they Columbus is pretty far away from where I'm at.

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Speaker 2: It's about you know, hour and forty five, and it's

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Speaker 2: not terrible, but to do all that, it's a lot

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Speaker 2: if that works, they do the next thing and the

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Speaker 2: blood work, and then you just keep going and do

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Speaker 2: this and do the testing. And as I did it.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows at this time besides my husband, my parents don't.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows because I didn't want to hear. At that time.

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Speaker 2: I knew so securely that this was something I was

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Speaker 1: The don't do it, why are you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing? This is not healthy? And

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Speaker 2: I was right. My mom really struggled with it at first. Really,

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Speaker 2: So we went to the testing and when finally, once

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Speaker 2: all of our surgeries. He again reiterated the risks to me,

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Speaker 2: to my body to minimal for where I am healthwise.

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Speaker 2: For me, you know, my blood pressure, Your blood pressure

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well I have to drink two leaders

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Speaker 1: With them for the rest of your life for the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, you know I was so.

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Speaker 1: This is life changing for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but not but life changing but not two leaders

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Speaker 2: have a regular life with this beautiful wife in his family,

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Speaker 2: and I have drunk water. Okay, come on, now.

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Speaker 1: What about what about any other lifestyle changes for you?

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Speaker 2: I can still I mean, I work out. I've started

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Speaker 2: a half. I can still do all of those things,

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Speaker 2: you know, do I still get a little tired now,

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Speaker 2: even because this kidney that's left will it's growing, right,

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Speaker 2: was before as far as processing the urine and getting

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Speaker 2: So it basically takes the junk in it. That's what

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Speaker 2: our urine is, right, the junk, and it processes it

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Speaker 1: And if it's not working, those poisons and toxins can't

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Speaker 2: Kidneys right, and then you're right, the kidney can't tolerate

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Speaker 1: You had the best kidding kidneys.

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Speaker 2: There you go, old star kid kind of gold star.

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Speaker 2: Before they could un they put my kidney on top

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Speaker 2: So they put that right on top of the kidney

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Speaker 2: before they could unclamp it, it was producing urine in

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Speaker 1: Well they could even so immediately, all right, we did

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Speaker 2: Sorry, So that excites me more than anything because there's.

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Speaker 1: get so they say, Okay, you got a good kidney.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: So you went on right then, yep.

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Speaker 2: I had just asked, you have to have a caregiver

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Speaker 2: that's available to you for at least the first two weeks,

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Speaker 2: they said, And I say, the only thing I would

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Speaker 2: ask I don't care who it is, because they asked

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Speaker 2: don't care. I don't care. This is humanity, right.

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Speaker 1: And what if it was somebody on in prison for murder?

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Speaker 2: I'll be real honest, I said, the only thing if

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Speaker 2: And how would they know, right that, I say, But

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Speaker 2: there's a social worker. So you sit with the social worker.

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Speaker 2: They do a whole psych analysis to make sure that

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Speaker 2: And I said, if you said one thing I'd said,

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Speaker 1: Now you know why it's so interesting about your background?

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Speaker 2: the people who get this far they've also been through this,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you go home, Oh and something about my

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Speaker 1: husband's a farmer. Can't we can't be down when we're harvesting, right.

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Speaker 2: I can make it work if I have to, but

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Speaker 1: What's your husband form?

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Speaker 2: Oh? So he they are a eighty year old farm

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Speaker 2: and he is a green so we just stopped milking

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Speaker 2: have steer and he's a grain farmer, so corn soybeans.

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Speaker 1: Got it, okay? So I can't do it during harvest.

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Speaker 1: Now you've watched the video. Your husband realized when he

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Speaker 1: married you you were nuts. So this wasn't that shocking

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Speaker 1: to him. You really hadn't told anybody yet outside of

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Speaker 1: Ohio state people. And you kind of go home and

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Speaker 1: you're on the list of people who are willing to

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Speaker 1: give your kidney, which is still I just can't even

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Speaker 2: super was supposed to happen.

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00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: So it was your first conversations with your recipient signing, so.

436
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't aware. I obviously didn't know Scott at all.

437
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,719
Speaker 2: So I walked in and introduced myself and sign and

438
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: asked how he was feeling, and sign, you know, told

439
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: her my name and sign and then of course, of

440
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: course God's very verbal, so he can speak very clearly

441
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 2: and very well well spoken gentlemen. So yeah, that's how

442
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: we met. And the nurses as we left, the nurses

443
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: that we do this all the time. We haven't cried

444
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: in a long time. She's like that one was too much.

445
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: That one they were allsolving, everybody's crying. So yeah, yeah,

446
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: so yeah, we get I just of course, thank you,

447
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 2: thank you. He was up and I don't know how

448
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: I was feeling, but he pulled it off, you know,

449
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: he and his wife. I remember she's saying he had

450
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 2: his of course his his he still had his his

451
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 2: bag on, and yeah, his catheter was still in. And

452
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 2: she said she's like, most people wouldn't want to see that.

453
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: She's like, that bag makes me so excited because it

454
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 2: was just producing.

455
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: So well, he is feeling he's producing urine. The great Yeah,

456
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if producing urine is usually something to

457
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: be really excited about. By getting this case this moment, absolutely,

458
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. How are you? A month later?

459
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: I am a little surprised by so many people being

460
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: aware of this. When I went into it, it was

461
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 2: never going to be something, but how so thankful. I

462
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: am so thankful to be a part of something so special.

463
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: Never dreamed it would turn into something this big. And

464
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 2: my number one answers, I'm so thankful. So physically, how

465
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: am I?

466
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: Okay?

467
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: I just I can't get my pants close quite yet.

468
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not twenty four, so it's still swollen. Yeah,

469
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: it's still above it above the so I don't usually

470
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 2: carry much weight in my waist, and I do.

471
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what then.

472
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: I also they said that they said he said it

473
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: would at the appointment. I had some trouble eating afterwards,

474
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: but when we went went to our follow up, that

475
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 2: was normal. And eating money. I mean I was in

476
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: Memphis last night. We did just fine eating so and just.

477
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: Twenty minutes ago you said, on balance, if I had

478
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: five kidneys, I'd give away four more.

479
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: One hundred person no questions asked, ten times. Absolutely. I

480
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 2: mean I get to and I know I don't like

481
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: I said, I will never reach out to that family

482
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: and say how is he doing? It's it's his gift,

483
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: is his life to live, it's his. But I also

484
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: get to know that he has a chance. How lucky

485
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: am I? I am so thankful, so so thankful.

486
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: Has it have you leveled with yourself? And has it

487
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: dawned on you? Without you? This chain of ten people

488
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. And there are ten people's lives, not one

489
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: that are at the very least monumentally changed and the

490
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: worst saved as a result of your selflessness and gift.

491
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, are you allowed are you willing to allow

492
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: yourself that? Because that's the truth, Sam, I.

493
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 2: Mean, I appreciate that that's a fact, and it's just

494
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: not I don't know that I'm specifically humble about that,

495
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: because I just it's amazing. It's amazing for them. It's

496
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: amazing that this happened. It's amazing that the doctors work

497
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: this out. I don't look in the mirror and go wow,

498
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 2: I people get their lives back. That's amazing. That's what's

499
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: amazing at this chain worked.

500
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: Albert Pike was a eighteenth century freemason, and he said

501
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: the following, what we do for ourselves in this life

502
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: does with us. What we do for another last forever

503
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: and remains immortal. And he said that on speaking about

504
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: the value of a legacy, you protected your mom at fifteen,

505
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: that's a legacy. You have enriched the lives of people

506
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: all over your county who are the most disadvantaged among

507
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: us by taking a small organization that did bowling and

508
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: blowing it up to bowling and flag football and a

509
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: questioning events. And children who can now put down their

510
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: stuffed animals because they can touch a horse, and parents'

511
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: lives enriched by being able to see their special needs

512
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: children smile. And that's a legacy. And now thus legacy,

513
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: and I mean this innocuous unknown farmer's wife with a

514
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: weird last name hanging out and rule. Ohio, My god,

515
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: you've changed laws.

516
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: Okay, as how blessed pretty lucky.

517
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: Well, still got a lie of life left, and I

518
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: guess the legacy is going to keep getting building. Well,

519
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: while we were talking, we were rudely interrupted by this

520
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: canuck that just popped down next to you. Mike Cubes,

521
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: my brother, How are you?

522
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 5: I'm great? How are you coaching?

523
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: I'm great? He just walked in in the middle of

524
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: the interview, and uh, it was perfect timing.

525
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 6: And you know, I have a face for radio camera time,

526
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 6: so everybody does on a busy street out so everybody's surprise, surprise.

527
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: I introduced you to Mike is my buddy at the

528
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: top of the show, and he just plopped down next

529
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: to us. Where you've been, You've been a meeting or

530
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: something out saving the world? What are you doing?

531
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 5: Uh?

532
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 6: I do a lot of work for the city of Memphis,

533
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 6: one of my clients, and the parks director was leaving,

534
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 6: so I just gave him a download. He's leaving to

535
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 6: go to on parks for Mecklenburg County and Charlotte got it.

536
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 6: So I just gave him a download of the one

537
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 6: point four billion dollars of business or so we've done

538
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 6: in the last nine years in Memphis.

539
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've I bragged on you early. Oh, and Sam said,

540
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: I know any of that.

541
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 5: You must have been a short conversation.

542
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: No.

543
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: I talked about the Tennis Center. I talked about the

544
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: multi use sports complex over by the Liberty Bowl. I

545
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: talked about the naming rights of the Libertyowl, the naming

546
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: rights for Insult Center, and how you left us for

547
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: Phoenix and then chose to come back to Memphis actually

548
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: without any of that stuff in mind, and have now

549
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: had such a lasting impact on our city. And you

550
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: know how dear a friend you've been to me, and

551
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: that I was introduced to your son's story just over

552
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: lunches as leukemia came and understanding how he lost his

553
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: hearing and all of it. And then I remember you

554
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: telling me that he was in renal failure and if

555
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: he didn't get a kidney transplant, it was not going

556
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: to be good. And then not long ago you telling

557
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: me my son's doing great, he's got a kidney and

558
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: it's an amazing story about this chain and everything else.

559
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: And how unbelievable that we're sitting here together and you're

560
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: sitting next to Sam.

561
00:29:47,760 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: You know it's it's life changing. I have to him. Second,

562
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 5: it was.

563
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 6: I was reading Scotty's birth announcement this morning that was

564
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 6: written a month after he was born, and how.

565
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 5: To see where he is today. It's what you've done,

566
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: is uh.

567
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 6: I told people when I came back and this was

568
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 6: free Christmas. I said, after Christmas, how was your Christmas?

569
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 6: I said, it was another day. I had my Christmas

570
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 6: on December.

571
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: Thirteenth and Scotty got his kidney.

572
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: When you okay, so everybody is cheering up at this table.

573
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: When you, uh man, Mike, when you when you realize

574
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: that that December thirteenth Christmas for your son Scottie doesn't

575
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: happen without the insane level of selflessness from the woman

576
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: set next to you. You know what do you?

577
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: I mean?

578
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: I think she's crazy. I think she's absolutely nuts to

579
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: allow two hands to go in her body RiPP or

580
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: open and go through all the pain and everything for

581
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: someone she doesn't even know. Can can you even fathom

582
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: that level of generosity?

583
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 5: Selflessness?

584
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 6: Generosity now just deep down, good to your bones.

585
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 5: It was.

586
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 6: Really moving that people I told the story to afterwards,

587
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 6: and even you said this, And Alex said this said,

588
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 6: light of everything going on, this gives me hope. This

589
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 6: is an example of there's hope in the world. There's

590
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 6: good people doing great things. And to me, that's what

591
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 6: has been left with me and I'll stay with me forever.

592
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 6: And then as I did more homework, I got to

593
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 6: know the medical team doctor rajab who oversees this amazing

594
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 6: transplant center at the Wexner Medical Center at Iowa State,

595
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 6: and then following it afterwards through different channels to understand

596
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 6: all the connections that these people had that none of

597
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 6: them would have known a month prior.

598
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 5: Just a month only think you got to call November tenth.

599
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: Okay, and you were giving your kidney the super thirteenth.

600
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 6: Yes, So we had been dealing with So Scotty had

601
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 6: a kidney transplant.

602
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 5: In twenty thirteen. His mom gave.

603
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 6: Him three years into that. There's there are some repercussions

604
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 6: on living donors, whatever it might be, or pancreas, your liver,

605
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 6: your your kidney. If you have mono, it has the

606
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 6: ability to manifest itself in the form of kemia foma.

607
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 6: That happened to him. So he has a kidney transplant.

608
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 6: He's hearing impaired, he gets cancer. You know, he was

609
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 6: a college hockey player. One month after his cancer diagnosis,

610
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 6: he was trying out for the US deef national team

611
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 6: playing the World Championships. Two years later, playing the Death

612
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 6: Olympics in Italy. Never told his coaches.

613
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: That.

614
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: He never told his coaches he had cancer.

615
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 5: They would.

616
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 6: You know, I knew the coaches pretty well, and I

617
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 6: have some ties to the NHL and these guys that

618
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 6: were coaching them, and they said, what's up with Scott?

619
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: He had like his.

620
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 5: Energy level isn't there.

621
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 6: It'll come, but he just wouldn't tell them.

622
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: Tough kid. And then renal failure.

623
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, so twenty six months ago, you know, there was

624
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 6: there was a lot of work going on behind the scenes.

625
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 6: So you had transplant, you get cancer, it ends the age,

626
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 6: renal failure, and it declines, declines, declines to the point

627
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 6: where nine months before is transplant he had he won Dallasis.

628
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 6: We were hoping he would get a transplant before he

629
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 6: had to go on dialysis, because it's a very unpleasant experience,

630
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 6: let alone going through a kidney transplant and surgery. Dialysis

631
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 6: in and of itself is three days a week, six

632
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 6: seven hours. What it does to your body. I mean,

633
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 6: it's therapeutic, it's not a cure. It allows you to function,

634
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 6: and this is but.

635
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: It's efficiency wanes over time. It's not a When you're

636
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: on dialysis, you may not be dying and you can

637
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: live for a while, but you are daily by daily

638
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: detegrating the rest of your body. It's not a long term,

639
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: forever fix.

640
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 6: If if in the cards you knew my life span

641
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 6: was another seventy eight years if you had to stay

642
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 6: on dialysis, that would be cut by six right. So

643
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 6: that's why it's so important for anyone on dialysis to

644
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 6: get a kidney and a healthy kidney.

645
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 5: And this is sort of funny. I remember.

646
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 6: Saturday morning, doctor Job and the nurses were like so

647
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 6: excited about how many gallons of urine he was producing.

648
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 6: And it was like watching the clock and we would

649
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 6: watch his bag fill up and how many leaders and

650
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 6: how quick it was happening. And Doctor Job came in

651
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 6: Sunday morning, he said, I am amazed. You process five

652
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 6: gallons of urine in forty eight hours. He said, your.

653
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 5: Kidney is doing dynamite.

654
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 6: You got the best kidney of all of them, he said.

655
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: Earlier we called it the gold start.

656
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 6: He said, And I don't tell all the patients that,

657
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 6: but I'm telling you you get the best kidney. It

658
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 6: was a perfect fit. We'll be right back. Maybe you've

659
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 6: already talked about this too. But I tested, but they

660
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 6: didn't tell me why. I just know I'm old and fat.

661
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: And I just don't learned that on Facebook here because

662
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: I recently learned I'm fat on Facebook.

663
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 6: No, I learned that every day for radio.

664
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing is, Scotty had everybody his life test.

665
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: Nobody matched, so.

666
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 6: His wife's brother got to the one yard line and

667
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 6: his testing. The doctors were concerned about some level of antibody, said,

668
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 6: you thought you were.

669
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 5: Going to work. You didn't.

670
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 6: That would have been a one to one surgery, right,

671
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 6: And Sean, who's also a selfless guy, Scotty's brother in law, said,

672
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 6: I don't care. I'm staying in so long as me

673
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 6: giving a kidney is going to help Scott.

674
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: He get a kidney, and down the line for ten people.

675
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 6: So then you get a call in November tenth, Sam,

676
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 6: Sam does, and then the whole thing's coming together. And

677
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 6: none of us really comprehended how all of this work

678
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 6: had been done for months and months and months, well

679
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 6: over a year, of trying to bring this twenty person

680
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 6: exchange together. I don't think they started out and said

681
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 6: let's build a roadmap for a twenty person exchange.

682
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: It just connected.

683
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 5: It just all worked out.

684
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 6: Sean tested matched this person, that person's whoever their relative was,

685
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 6: said Okay, you're not a match for I'll just call

686
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 6: them your uncle, your father, your brother, your cousin, but

687
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 6: you're a match for this other person who's on our list.

688
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 6: They just kept doing that and the pieces came together,

689
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 6: with Sam being the final piece of that twenty person puzzle.

690
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: Which if Sam, who has no relationship to anybody in

691
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: the chain, doesn't say I'm in the chain breaks.

692
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 6: If Sam said on that call on November tenth, you

693
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 6: know what, I changed my mind and we've got a plan.

694
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 6: We're going to Europe for Christmas. The dates don't work.

695
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 6: Some of the people would have gotten a kidney, but

696
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 6: I know Scotty wouldn't have and I don't think it

697
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 6: would have been anywhere near the twenty person exchange.

698
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: But let's just take me out of it. What if

699
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: Sean had been a man at that had been that

700
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: would have been great for Scott right because Scott would

701
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: have got his kidney, but all those other people went,

702
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: so it all worked out that Sewn didn't match directly.

703
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it was actually a

704
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: blessing for the entire group. So Sewan didn't match. So

705
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: what looked like, oh no, we don't have a kidney

706
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: ended up being a blessing for far more people than

707
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: just Scott.

708
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, we got that call in October and we

709
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 6: were thinking he was gonna he was doing so well

710
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 6: in the testing, he was going to get to the

711
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 6: finish line. Finally this is going to happen. Scott is

712
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 6: gonna get off dialysis. And then I was like, just.

713
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: Not a fit.

714
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 6: But behind the scenes, that medical team were just amazing.

715
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 6: We're doing all of this work and I still don't

716
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 6: understand how they eventually found you.

717
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: Sham volunteered, dude.

718
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: He didn't feel that.

719
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 6: I know that, but I don't know how, because you

720
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 6: did that a long time before November.

721
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: I did, but I asked four years ago. No no, no, no,

722
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: no no. I was done with my testing just in May.

723
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 5: In May, can you believe.

724
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: I felt, Yeah, I felt, it's.

725
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: Very cool that we're sitting here. This is so fresh.

726
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: It only happened a month ago, and your call to

727
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: do this that rang up in your crazy head was

728
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: only in May, right, I mean we're talking six months here,

729
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: and it all came together and ten people's lives changed.

730
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 6: Which has never happened to have a twenty person exchange

731
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 6: they believe in the country, But the biggest one they

732
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 6: have done at Ohio State was five.

733
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you told me, Alex and I kind of we

734
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: always want to be accurate, but they think this may

735
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: be the largest chain ever conducted in the United States.

736
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: And that's what the people to how State told you October.

737
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: Jobs said that, yeah, And whether it's the biggest or

738
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: one of the biggest is still phenomenal.

739
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 6: Whether it was twenty eighteen or four. You know, if

740
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 6: it helped four people or ten people, it's still all remarkable.

741
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 6: But you know, we're sitting here today with Sam because

742
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 6: of an altruistic donor. Of the twenty called the ten,

743
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 6: we had one altruistic donor who made it happen. All

744
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 6: other nine people add some kind of connection to the recipients.

745
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: And the one who didn't is on your left.

746
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 5: Right.

747
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: When you consider the depth of that selflessness and that gift,

748
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've said it to or before for but

749
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: what were your words to her?

750
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 6: So, Sam, Yeah, I didn't really speak that day because

751
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 6: I thought that was her in Scottis moment.

752
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 5: Mmmm, all I said.

753
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 6: And Ali, my daughter was there too, and I think

754
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 6: it was just the three of us. Oh, and Scotty's

755
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 6: wife Lizzie was there. All I said was thank you.

756
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 6: You've saved Scotty's life. You've benefited so many people, done

757
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 6: this selflessly. This was meant to happen. But you know,

758
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 6: I didn't look at that time when we met, as

759
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 6: I stayed in the background and said, this is Scotty's

760
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 6: moment to make that connection. Yeah, And what was remarkable

761
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 6: was how you walked in the room and immediately use

762
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 6: sign language and all of us were just blown away.

763
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 6: And you know, your sign language is very good. And

764
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 6: Scotty was blown away. He's like talking to you and

765
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 6: he said afterwards, he said, I had no idea.

766
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: Well neither did Sale.

767
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's feels as if this entire thing has a

768
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: little bit of divinity to it.

769
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 5: I believe that.

770
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: I believe that, what.

771
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: About you, girl, And just like I said before the connection,

772
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: I felt to just them as a couple, and your

773
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: daughter is just she's a precious young lady, and just

774
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: she came from I don't know, Mike, but you could

775
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 2: just just the energy of that family.

776
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 6: You know, and Apple's fall My tree, our apple tree

777
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 6: was on the top of the hills.

778
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 5: So it do.

779
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: The kind of people that you just sit back and say,

780
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm just so happy for them and that they get

781
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: to do this. They're kind of people you want to

782
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: see succeed. You know. I left there and I again,

783
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain it, almost your selfish

784
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: to say it, but that you can this young couple,

785
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: you know, married two years, shy have two years at the.

786
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: Time, their anniversary was New Year's Eve.

787
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that they get this chance, and that I

788
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: got to be a small little part of the joys

789
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: that lay ahead for them.

790
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 6: For eleven months into their marriage when he had his

791
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 6: and stage renal failure.

792
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't I can't help. But your DNA, a piece

793
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: of you is walking around on another person's human body

794
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: allowing them to breathe. That's just phenomenal. I mean, yeah,

795
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: that's true.

796
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 5: Breathing is also essential.

797
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: So I mean you bring a whole new light to

798
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: the saying you need to give of yourself. You literally

799
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: gave of yourself.

800
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 2: Well, that DNA they scientifically it says that the DNA

801
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: can't affect him fromup to two years. So if he

802
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: all of a sudden becomes like a big history baffer,

803
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: eat a bunch of weird stuff. Sorry about that.

804
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 7: So he becomes a farmer, Yeah, he starts starts in

805
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 7: donating gold, folks, homes, peaches, pickle, pickle beets or something.

806
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: Cookbooks. You know, Sam, as I was thinking about what

807
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: you did. I couldn't help, but wonder what if there

808
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: were one hundred SAMs? And is there a need for

809
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: one hundred SAMs? This is really that big a deal

810
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: or is this one off? Alex, being his steadfast producer self,

811
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: came up with some information according to the Organ Procurement

812
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: and Transplant Network. Who knew, but there is one. There

813
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: are today one hundred and four thousand, eight hundred and

814
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: forty people on the Transpoint transplant weight list, and ninety thousand,

815
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: five hundred and six people today need a kidney. The

816
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: average person needed a kidney transplant weights five years, meaning they're,

817
00:47:52,320 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 1: in Mike's words, they're undergoing five years of unpleasantness. There's

818
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: only around twenty five thousand kidney transplants a year against

819
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: the ninety thousand who need one, so a quarter maybe

820
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: twenty eight percent, which means seventy two percent of the

821
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: people who need a kidney are struggling. It leads to

822
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 1: an estimated twelve people die every day because they didn't

823
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to get a kidney, twelve people a

824
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: day out of this ninety thousand needing one. Alex says

825
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: it would be an awesome thing to build an army

826
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: of transplant doms. And Alex even says he's thinking about

827
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: it now. He said, you just need two extra cover

828
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: or so. Sam. Not only does your story honestly save

829
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: without your chain save ten people's lives, maybe you could

830
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: save more because if your selflessness and your story inspires

831
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: people like Alex and others when they realize there's one

832
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people right now, twelve a day of which

833
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: are dying without a kidney. If you put together a

834
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: thousand people willing to give a kidney with ten thousand

835
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 1: with ten person chains, guess what. Everybody gets kidney.

836
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: Less than a month of your less than a month

837
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: of your life, and I'm basically back to normal, and

838
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: his life is back to normal. What hadn't been?

839
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, text me last week, got my stables removed. I

840
00:49:54,680 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 6: can drive again. A big moment, and this doesn't really matter.

841
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 6: I was saying to Alex, we need to toughen him

842
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 6: up because he broke his finger hitting a bug.

843
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, Alex broke his finger. What do you do

844
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: hit a bug? Hit a bug? Yeah?

845
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 5: And I said, your kids.

846
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: Got Your kid's got cancer, kidney death, everything else, playing hockey,

847
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: not telling his people, going to Italy to play a

848
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: national championship. Alex is over here splintered up because he

849
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: tried to kill a bug. Yeah, brief.

850
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 6: So I have I've had back surgery since I just

851
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 6: had a spinal surgery lovely when, and I've had eight

852
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 6: years of nerve blocks. I only tell you that because

853
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 6: when the doctors at Campbell Clinic said, okay, we're going

854
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 6: to schedule for December twelfth, said I can't do it.

855
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 6: I didn't say why. I said, when's the next day?

856
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 6: So it was January the third, and my surgery was

857
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 6: they call MINIMALI invasive, but that's like a banker saying

858
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 6: we have low introductory Yeah. So all of that, Like

859
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 6: it just made me feel like, Okay, what I'm going

860
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 6: to go through is easy.

861
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: Well, it's also interesting to think about you had to

862
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 1: go through that to fix yourself. Can you imagine saying,

863
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to fill out an application

864
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: and do this. I'm just gonna do it because I

865
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: mean what Sam did. Yeah, I'm going to go through

866
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: all this crowd and it doesn't benefit a thing for me.

867
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: In fact, it takes a little bit from me. I mean,

868
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: just the selflessness. It's unbelievable that the thing is these

869
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: stats tell us that, you know, Sam, maybe your story

870
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: inspires other people and there'll be other lives saves as

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Speaker 1: a result of your selflessness. It's very possible.

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Speaker 2: That would be beautiful.

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Speaker 4: She does get a lot out of it, though, Bill,

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Speaker 4: as you say, you get a thousand times more out

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Speaker 4: of it than you ever put into it.

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Speaker 1: You do, and Sam said this, So here's the deal, Sam,

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Speaker 1: We're an army of normal folks. We celebrate normal people

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Speaker 1: you've never heard of that do extraordinary things. I have

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Speaker 1: been doing this now, what Alex twars almost two years

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Speaker 1: and I've interviewed people that have started organizations that are

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Speaker 1: now countrywide that affect thousands and thousands alive and interviewed,

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Speaker 1: just all walks and manner of life. And it's not

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Speaker 1: a competition, and we all celebrate each other. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: that's the whole power behind this army and normal folks.

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Speaker 1: If we continue to celebrate each other, we don't care

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Speaker 1: if you're white, black, Asian, Latino, Hispanic, gay, straight, Republican, progressive.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to come up with all of the categories

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Speaker 1: that we seem to divide ourselves into, but we don't

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Speaker 1: matter any of those categories because if you do something

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Speaker 1: extraordinary for another person that's not advantaged as you, I

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Speaker 1: can celebrate you regardless of how I vote, who I love,

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Speaker 1: or what I look like. And likewise, if I'm doing

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Speaker 1: the same, you can celebrate me. And then from that foundation,

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Speaker 1: maybe we can start having civil, non threatened conversations about

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Speaker 1: the stuff that matters, because that defines us as human

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Speaker 1: beings first, not sexuality or faith or politics.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, after this almost two years we've been doing this,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say to you, Sam, I have not teared

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Speaker 1: up at this table before today. Your selflessness and the

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Speaker 1: profound effect you've had by just being a human being

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Speaker 1: that saw an area need and filled. It is inspiring

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Speaker 1: to me. I feel so little next to you. You

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Speaker 1: make me want to be better. So I'm gonna wrap

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Speaker 1: this way. Thanks for coming to Memphis. I hope you

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Speaker 1: had some more barbecue. I hope the swelling around your

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Speaker 1: belly goes down and you enjoy the marathon. I hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy your two leads of water for the rest

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Speaker 1: of your life. I know you're going to do continue

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Speaker 1: to do amazing things in your community with the handicapped

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Speaker 1: and the special needs, but I'm going to let it

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Speaker 1: in this way. Mike, close this out with whichever you

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Speaker 1: want to say.

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Speaker 5: To Sam Well.

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Speaker 6: I yeah, in a very, very tiny, small way. Started

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Speaker 6: a conversation with Bill and Alex two and a half

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Speaker 6: years ago just about this concept. So I have really

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Speaker 6: nothing to do with it. But I am an avid

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Speaker 6: consumer and every time I drive to Ohio, a nine

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Speaker 6: hour drive one turned into twelve with traffic. The only

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Speaker 6: thing I listened to is an army of normal folks,

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Speaker 6: and every one of them inspires me. But none of

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Speaker 6: them touched me personally. This one has, and I I

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Speaker 6: know in December thirteenth, I felt differently about world and

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Speaker 6: people and how much more we can do together, and

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Speaker 6: that I have to stop just checking the boxes and

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Speaker 6: setting alarms and.

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Speaker 5: Doing the same thing.

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Speaker 6: I want to do something different because you inspire me

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Speaker 6: and you saved my son's life.

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Speaker 1: Can in any better than that? Sam, thanks for being here,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and thank you for joining us this week.

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Speaker 1: If Sam Flettererjohn has inspired you in general, or better yet,

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Speaker 1: to take action by donating a kidney, by.

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Speaker 4: Come on, Bill, there's a need. Don't say that tentatively.

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Speaker 4: We already talked about this in the podcast. I mean

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Speaker 4: of kidneys need to be donated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, but my gosh, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's an extreme gift. It's unbelievable. Well, if she has

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Speaker 1: inspired you to donate a kidney or getting involved with

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Speaker 1: special Olympics or something else entirely, please let me know.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear about it. You can write me

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Speaker 1: anytime at Bill at normal folks dot us, and I

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Speaker 1: swear to you I will respond. If you enjoyed this episode,

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Speaker 1: share it with friends and on social subscribe to the podcast,

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Speaker 1: rate and review it. Join the Army at normal folks

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Speaker 1: dot us, consider becoming a Premium member there any and

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Speaker 1: all of these things that will help us grow an

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Speaker 1: army of normal folks. Remember, guys, the more listeners, the

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Speaker 1: more impact. Thanks to our producer, Iron Light Labs, I'm

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Speaker 1: Bill Courtney. Until next time, do it you can