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Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 1: If you're your hosts Michael Bumpis.

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Speaker 3: And Paul Moyer, what's up? You're listening to Hot Slide

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Speaker 3: presented by the Dining District at the Bellvy Collection every

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Speaker 3: Thursday at seven ride Here on Seattle Sports seven to ten.

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Speaker 3: We're broadcasting live from the Bellvy Scor Center Court. I'm

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Speaker 3: Michael Bumpus with my guy Paul Moyer aka Paul moy Yeasy.

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not an a Moyer I called.

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Speaker 3: I said, I'll go moyezy bee weezy. I know. I

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Speaker 3: mix it up if you if you prefer moye, though,

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Speaker 3: I would just say moye.

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Speaker 4: It's a brand, you know. I don't want to be

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Speaker 4: messing with the brand. I feel like my company. I

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Speaker 4: guess I gotta keep it right.

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Speaker 3: I feel that.

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Speaker 4: But big big week coming up here, Big big win

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Speaker 4: last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, big win last week twenty four to twenty your

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Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks take down with the second or first at

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Speaker 3: the time best defense in the league. And they got

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Speaker 3: it done. Me, there are some things that we wanted

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Speaker 3: to see last week, right, I know we were sitting

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Speaker 3: here before the show talking about the red zone. Before

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Speaker 3: last week, I believe the Hawks were one in eight

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Speaker 3: scoring touchdowns trips in the red zone. If you want

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Speaker 3: to be a good football team, you got to be

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Speaker 3: able to get inside the twenty and get her done.

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Speaker 3: We talked about Geno a little bit, JSN, who we're

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Speaker 3: gonna see later. He's gonna come here and visit you

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Speaker 3: guys and hopefully signed some autographs. He has his second

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Speaker 3: week in a row with a touchdown. Jake Bobo's doing

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Speaker 3: this thing. It's like the veterans are holding it down,

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Speaker 3: but then we're getting these rookies that popping it and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of rookies. I mean offensive line, we

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Speaker 4: I mean they're they're making plays. They're impactful. I thought

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Speaker 4: last week was and I'm really excited about this week too,

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Speaker 4: because I think this week we go on the road

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Speaker 4: and beat Baltimore. I'm all in. Yeah, as a Super

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Speaker 4: and mainly because that defense that we went up against Cleveland,

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Speaker 4: I thought we handled it. I thought, I don't want

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Speaker 4: a lot of great things. I think Geno's finally starting

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Speaker 4: spreading it around. The big one obviously going into last

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Speaker 4: But we did some good things last week also. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we also got to see Jason Peters right,

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Speaker 3: he joined that offensive line. The old man in football,

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Speaker 3: young man in life. Right, forty one years old. They

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Speaker 4: I'm really comfortable with what we have up the middle

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Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong. I would love to have Chase Syng.

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Speaker 4: Why Leonard Williams, Well, when he's a pro bowler, he

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Speaker 4: And my favorite people over a thirty second Street. Let's

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Speaker 3: We see thirty second Street, but those all no get them?

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Speaker 3: Hearing the sounds good? So what is all said and done?

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Speaker 3: The best move for the Seahawks. I couldn't be more

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Hey, appreciate you taking time out of your schedule. Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, John, it sounds like being in that institution really

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about that? And again, I don't

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Speaker 2: Right, I think that's the cool part, honestly, is that

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Speaker 2: I'll have a job for five years. I'll be able

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Speaker 3: Now you're you're in the NFL. And I would assume

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, whoever wins, whoever loses,

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Speaker 2: we're all We're all in this together. We're all going

436
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Speaker 2: through a very similar life, we're all going through a

437
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 2: very similar schedule, We're all fighting through these tough engineering

438
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Speaker 2: classes that we didn't know we had to take, but

439
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Speaker 2: we ended up having to take. So it's just it's

440
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Speaker 2: just really cool because, to be honest, it's a big

441
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Speaker 2: rivalry and it definitely has that feel to it. We're

442
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Speaker 2: against one another, but ultimately we know that we're all

443
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Speaker 2: together and it's just a cool representation of the military.

444
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Speaker 3: Well, John, Man, we appreciate your time on this Thursday,

445
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Speaker 3: and we appreciate your intentions going into Army and the

446
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 3: potential of what you have to do after you're done

447
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 3: playing this game. We're sitting here talking football and guys

448
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 3: like you make this possible. Man, So we appreciate you

449
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 3: and we'll talk to you soon. Good luck in Baltimore.

450
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Speaker 2: Sounds good. Thank you so much. I appreciate you, guys.

451
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Speaker 4: I'm mnna say go Army beat Navy.

452
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Speaker 2: Thanks John, Right, that's right, going Army.

453
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Speaker 3: All right, that's John Radigan when we were returnable. Go

454
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Speaker 3: all around the NFL. What's going down to the end

455
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Speaker 3: of the league. That is next right here on Hawk's Lot.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue

457
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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Course live on air on

458
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Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 3: We are back. This is Hawks Live, presented by the

460
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Speaker 3: Dining District at the Bellvy Collection for here every Thursday.

461
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Speaker 3: I see some regulars out here Moreyer. They come and

462
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 3: support us every single week. If not a regular, it's

463
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Speaker 3: all good. We're glad you're here. Now. Man, I'm Michael

464
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Speaker 3: bum with my guy Paul Moyer. It's time to go

465
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Speaker 3: around the NFL. Now, we got to start in the bay.

466
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: It's going down in the bay right now. Man, you

467
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: got brock Party in the gang losing three in a row.

468
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: I was waiting for this moment for brock Purty because

469
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: everything was nice. You got the best defense in the league,

470
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel's ball and Christian McCaffrey seventeen games in a

471
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Speaker 3: row with a touchdown, Brandon Auk, who's the best receiver

472
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Speaker 3: on that team. But you got Deebo Samuel, who's a

473
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Speaker 3: great athlete. And then they hit a bump in a row,

474
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Speaker 3: and then I'm looking at brock Perty I'm saying, all right,

475
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: mister irrelevant, this is something you have not experienced before

476
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: on this level. How are you going to bounce back now?

477
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: I'm not ready to say brock Purty's done. He can't

478
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Speaker 3: play in this league. But it makes me interested because

479
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 3: we're in first place in MC West right now, thankful

480
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Speaker 3: for thankfully because we have the forty nine ers drop

481
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Speaker 3: three in a row. When you look at the Niners

482
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Speaker 3: right now, how close are we have we passed them up?

483
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Speaker 3: I know we're first in the West, but you know

484
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Speaker 3: how this game is matchups, personnel, All that stuff matters.

485
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Speaker 3: Is what are your thoughts in the forty nine ers.

486
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Speaker 4: Well, it's been good. I mean when they were five

487
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,239
Speaker 4: and zero, we went, uh oh, you know this is

488
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 4: and Purty. I like Purty as a person. I think

489
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 4: he is an incredible human being. He's a guy you

490
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Speaker 4: want to root for, even though he's a forty nine er,

491
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: which is hard for me to root for, but you

492
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Speaker 4: do root for good people. But there's always a weakness

493
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Speaker 4: we see in his game. And when you've had a

494
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Speaker 4: full year, almost a year of film, people see you

495
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 4: in the offseason, and now that we start a new season,

496
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Speaker 4: they're going to force you to adjust to your weaknesses.

497
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Speaker 4: And his weakness is he just doesn't have a really

498
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Speaker 4: strong arm. He's off. He's got to be on timing.

499
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Speaker 4: And so now people are which I always say, with

500
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Speaker 4: forty nine ers protect the middle of the field, force

501
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Speaker 4: them to throw outside the numbers, and he's starting to

502
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Speaker 4: try to get the ball over linebackers heads. He's starting

503
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Speaker 4: to create some turnovers. I think he's still capable. And

504
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Speaker 4: when they get Samuel back, and now they got Chase Young,

505
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 4: they're formidable. They got a great defense. But things come

506
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 4: back to the pack to you really quick, and people

507
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 4: start to find your weaknesses, and if you don't make

508
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 4: those adjustments, you go on a three game losing streak

509
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 4: like they have, not kicking them out. I don't think

510
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: they're going to be a playoff team. It's going to

511
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 4: be a battle when we play them over the next

512
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Speaker 4: twice over the next six weeks, I think. But I

513
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 4: like our chances now. I think we match up defensively

514
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 4: really well. I think when we eventually get Abe Lucas

515
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Speaker 4: back at right tackle, hopefully we've got a complete line

516
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Speaker 4: as well. And then we've got five receivers now that

517
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 4: de Eskridge is back, we're gonna have JSN here in

518
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 4: a bit too. I mean we got tight ends. We

519
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 4: just we're loaded across the board, so there's no excuses.

520
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: We've closed the gap and Actually, we've more than closed

521
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Speaker 4: the gap. We were five and two and they're five

522
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Speaker 4: and three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been saying that since the Jimmy Garoppolo days.

524
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Speaker 3: Make them throw outside the numbers. And I watched the

525
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 3: interceptions that brock Party has. Guess what it is, digs

526
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Speaker 3: across the middle. They're dropping that Mike linebacker and clouting

527
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: that space for him. I think teams are starting to

528
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: figure that out. Something interesting happened the other day. The

529
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Speaker 3: raid is loss on a Monday night, and with the

530
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Speaker 3: next day, Josh McDaniels is out of there, the second

531
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Speaker 3: time he's been fired as a head coach over there

532
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Speaker 3: in the second year of that contract. It's so hard

533
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Speaker 3: to keep a job in NFL.

534
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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you get a head coach. If you get

536
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Speaker 4: a head coach, kick, I mean fire me. I'm good,

537
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 4: guarantee money. Look for me at my age. I'm gonna

538
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 4: go work on my golf game. But it's not the coaches, man,

539
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 4: it's the organization. Since two thousand, they have had thirteen

540
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Speaker 4: head coaches and actually I think it's fourteen if I

541
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Speaker 4: retread Gruden twice. The Seahawks have had two and a

542
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Speaker 4: half since two thousand and I say two and a half,

543
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Speaker 4: we had Mike Holmgren, and then for the one year

544
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Speaker 4: we had Mora, which was kind of forced on the

545
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Speaker 4: Seahawks from the previous general manager. He gets one year

546
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Speaker 4: and we bring in Pete Carroll. I mean, that's stability,

547
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 4: good organization. The Raders just a bad organization. And he

548
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 4: got Mark Davis, who anybody who has Sorry if anybody's

549
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: got a bowl cut like that, I apologize, but come on, man,

550
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 4: I mean, just that alone just shows that he doesn't

551
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 4: make good decisions. His dad was brilliant. He was I mean,

552
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: Al Davis, you know, whatever you want to think about him.

553
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 4: He was an innovator. He was well ahead of his game.

554
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 4: They won a lot of Super Bowls. You get older,

555
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: things may pass you by a little bit or older.

556
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 4: I don't want to say old because I'm that age

557
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 4: his son. It happens a lot in business. You know,

558
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: when the kids take over the business, about eighty percent

559
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: of them have been driving it into the ground. Mark Davis,

560
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 4: to me, has done that.

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Speaker 3: All right, We got about a minute here, Moyer. The

562
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Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles take on the Dallas Cowboys, a game that

563
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Speaker 3: we need to watch. Go down the Cowboys are five

564
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Speaker 3: and two, fourth in the NFC, Philadelphia Eagles seven to one,

565
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Speaker 3: number one in the NFC. What's this game gonna come

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Speaker 3: down to?

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of torn on this game. I was gonna

568
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: ask you one who you who you hope and wins?

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Speaker 3: You want the Dallas Cowboys to win. I'm torn because

570
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: that puts Philly seven.

571
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: And we play Philly so we can take care of business, right,

572
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 4: we control our own destiny. The reason why I kind

573
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 4: of want Philly to whoop up on them. I just

574
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: don't want the Cowboys to be a problem for us.

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Speaker 4: You know where they all said and what they're they're

576
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Speaker 4: battling and they're they're super skilled. I think we match

577
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: up well against Philadelphia. That is going to be a battle,

578
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: and I don't know six weeks, five weeks whenever that is. So, look,

579
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 4: they're all out in front of us. We got the

580
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Speaker 4: forty nine ers twice, and we got Philly coming here.

581
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: We got the Cowboys we're gonna go to And here's

582
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: the great thing. When we go to play the Cowboys,

583
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Speaker 4: we're wearing our throwback jerseys again. And right now I

584
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: know we're undefeated this year in our throwback Jersey, So

585
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Speaker 4: I'll be at that game, just letting you know I

586
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: will not be here, but I'm going to do a

587
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 4: couple of segments so I can get paid for doing

588
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: the pre postgame half time.

589
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Speaker 3: Leave me by myself. Huh onete, old boyer, No one

590
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: likeppiate you man, all right? When we return, man, we'll

591
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: hear from the young guy making noise kind of touchdown

592
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: in those throwback jerseys. Jackson Smith and Jigba will be

593
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: here next on Hawk's lot.

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Speaker 1: There we go, Hawks Live presented by the Dining District

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Speaker 1: of the Bellevue Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live

596
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: on air on Seattle Sports.

597
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hawks Live of Michael Bambas with Paul Moyer.

598
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: We are awaiting the arrival of JSM. You know he

599
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: ain't from here, so you know I prob made a

600
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: wrong turn somewhere looking for that valet. You know, head boy,

601
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: you know all about the valet. Ig Nor you pull

602
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: it up in salsa keys and and hop out you.

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Speaker 4: With yeah, yeah I do that. No, I had the

604
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: same parking spot I always go to, so no one

605
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 4: hits my car, which they'll they'll do often, And yeah,

606
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: I'm excited. To get JS in here. You know, he's

607
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: a Dallas kid or just outside of Dallas in Rockwell,

608
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: rock Walk, excuse me, three thousand students and you were

609
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Speaker 4: saying you think Lake Stevens.

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Speaker 3: Close to four thousand.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to look at it.

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Speaker 3: Look at it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just not sure that. I don't want to say

614
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Speaker 4: you're wrong.

615
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: I might be wrong close to it.

616
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Speaker 4: But I didn't know we had a school that big.

617
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 4: And then you know in the state of Washington.

618
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Speaker 3: But you know north in the country, man, you know,

619
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Speaker 3: they do a different up there.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: Allen. They actually will bring this up to Allan High School,

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Speaker 4: which is in Texas, a powerhouse there. They got like

624
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Speaker 4: five close to five thousand students. And I was just

625
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Speaker 4: reading that one of the fastest growing places, particularly in

626
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Speaker 4: Texas is it's kind of that north part of Texas

627
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Speaker 4: outside of Dallas and kind of the Frisco area. Rock

628
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Speaker 4: Wall they were talking about they just did a bond

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Speaker 4: or they they're building a new high school stadium. It's

630
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Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty million dollars. I don't know how big.

631
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Speaker 4: It's probably twenty thousand seats made, maybe thirty, but they

632
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: that's what they get there, and they have no problem

633
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: getting those bonds passed through because high school football there,

634
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: it's not even high school football, it's high school. It's school.

635
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Speaker 4: If you go and look at those schools that the

636
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: ones that are building right now, they look like colleges.

637
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 4: They are so nice. So they don't mess around in

638
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Speaker 4: Texas for education.

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Speaker 3: It's a different culture down down in the big state

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Speaker 3: of Texas.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: But let's talk about what we've seeing out of this

643
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: young man so far. You know, it's been a progression.

644
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: I know, when you're the twentieth pick, you are joining

645
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: a receiver corps that already has some established guys. People

646
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: were still expecting him to hit the ground and have

647
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Speaker 3: one hundred this game, one hundred and fifty that game.

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00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: You got to realize, man, you got DK, you gotta locket,

649
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: you got a tight end room. That's good to go.

650
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: And there's an adjustment period that happens in the NFL.

651
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: And I think we're starting to see him really kind

652
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: of understand what his role is, and I think Shane

653
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: Walton is finally understanding how to get him the football.

654
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: His very first touchdown, it was a simple post route.

655
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: I call it a sailor combination. He's on the outside,

656
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: Tyler Locket on the inside. Tyler has the corner, he

657
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: has the post, the safety rolls with the pose, the

658
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: corner cornerback stays with the corner, and he's wide open.

659
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: Gino puts the ball on him and I could imagine

660
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: just the relief that was off of him, like, Okay,

661
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: I'm Indian Zone. I know how to get it done.

662
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: And then the following week the game winning touchdown. I

663
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: like where he's headed right now.

664
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 4: Well, I think he's healthy. Remember he had a bit

665
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: of the hamstring thing his senior year, and I think

666
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: he wasn't that healthy even through preseason, right yep. So

667
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: now he's healthy. He looks not that he was never

668
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 4: fast or quick, but he looks quick. He looks like

669
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 4: the twentieth pick in the draft, and they're starting to

670
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: try and to feature him. There was one play was

671
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: Cincinnati gain where they created this play form man. He

672
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: was wide opening. Again, something flashed in front of Gino.

673
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: Gino didn't see him, and now they're creating opportunities for him.

674
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: Before early on it was bubble screens, quick screens. Let's

675
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: just get in the ball maybe and see if we

676
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 4: can get some space, but they're all short routes. Now

677
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: they're starting to develop some routes, and it's critical because

678
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: of the way they're playing DK, the way they play Tyler.

679
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: We got a lot of receivers. You got Jake Bobo,

680
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 4: you know, got d S. Gridge, you know JSN. So

681
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: the weapons are there. That the tough part, obviously for Gino,

682
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 4: is how do I spread this thing around to everybody

683
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: and make them all happy. I want to ask JSN.

684
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: I go, you know what's that like in the receiver room?

685
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: Man?

686
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: You got four targets?

687
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: He got nine.

688
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: You're all mad at each other.

689
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: DK have fourteen of them things, uh last week. So

690
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: I think he's good. But he's still third on the

691
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: team in targets, which is crazy because they're Because you

692
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: mentioned all those names, it seems like it's spread out

693
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: so evenly, which it is, right. You got your two

694
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: at the top, you got JSN, and then I believe

695
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: Noah fen or Kobe Parkinson our third and fourth, and

696
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: you're throwing will of dis league. That's a good problem

697
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: to have, man, It's that you have so many weapons.

698
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: You're trying to get them football and trying to create

699
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: ways to get them the football. If I'm Shane Walden

700
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 3: at night, I'm sitting down and I'm looking at film

701
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: and I'm saying, all right, I have the big down

702
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: the field type of guy. I have the reliable back

703
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: of the end zone type of dude in Tyler Lockett,

704
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: and then you have this js N kid who you're

705
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: trying to really figure out what he can do on

706
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: this level. It has to be fun trying to game

707
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 3: plan for those type of guys.

708
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they know what he can do, and

709
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: I you're seeing more and more things created just for him. Yeah,

710
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: I there's so many weapons. We didn't even talk about

711
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: the running backs too. I mean we didn't, you know,

712
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 4: screen game, and I'd like to get you know, Canine

713
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 4: out in the open field. And then Charbona starting to

714
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: really come on as well. So yeah, you know, and look,

715
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 4: j San has also been I don't know what you

716
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: call it, wide receiver. You I meant, at this point,

717
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 4: who's their stud The guy who's talking.

718
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: About Marvin Harrison coming out Mecca Is will be the

719
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: next one out out of it, out of there.

720
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 4: You know, there's been a few good high school kids

721
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: that have you know, from here in the state of

722
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: Washington went there can't play again any playing time. Right,

723
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 4: you know that's how how deep that is. And so

724
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: he gets what it's like to battle for targets. I

725
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 4: ask you, what is that like? I mean, you know

726
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: on the defense side, you know, I'm I go create

727
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: my own targets. You guys gotta wait for the ball

728
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: to come to you.

729
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: Well, I think you because when I played, I had

730
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: Jason Hill, who at the time held a lot of

731
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: records in the pack ten at the time, uh for

732
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: touchdowns and yards, right, and then Brandon Gibson who played

733
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: the NFL as well. I think you just understand the

734
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 3: situation and when you're when it's your time to shine.

735
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: You know, for me it was third downs. Third downs

736
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: they knew, send me across the middle, I got you,

737
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: get you down the field, we get into the red zone,

738
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 3: I go, all right, I've done my job. You're gonna

739
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: go outside up top to the other guys. So I

740
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: think once you you settle down and you understand just

741
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: when is your time to shine, you take advantage of

742
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: those opportunities. Because if you throw the ball thirty five

743
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: forty times a game, I mean you're gonna get five, six,

744
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: seven targets, so I think, and then you look at

745
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 3: you look at the room, and you realize who you're

746
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 3: dealing with, and you know that if the guy outside

747
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: of me or the guy on the other side is

748
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: playing good football, they're gonna game plan to stop him.

749
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 3: That opens everybody else up.

750
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 4: So on offense, is every play when they call play.

751
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 4: I can't believe I don't know this, But when they

752
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: call play, are you the target or does the defense

753
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: dictate the target? So going into a game, do you

754
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 4: have an idea? Probably if we throw at thirty, I'm

755
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: gonna be targeted eight times. But on every call is

756
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 4: DK is it? You know? Spread right? Whatever? DK? On one?

757
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: You know it's you get the game plan and you

758
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: look at what the defense is trying to do. And

759
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: there are certain players where you know, I'm gonna get

760
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: this football if they come out in the defense that

761
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 3: we think they're gonna come out in. And then you

762
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: get to the line of screamers. You're looking at the

763
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 3: defense you say, Okay, this is my job. Like I'll

764
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: never forget. We used to run this play four x

765
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: all it is ten yard dig boom and I'm running

766
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: the scene. They call that play and literally in the huddle,

767
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: I look at my guy, go I got you, because

768
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: I know the only way I'm getting this football is

769
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: if they blitz us or if that safety hops down,

770
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 3: and look they're in quarters. They're not gonna hop down

771
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: on this. So my job is a whole that safety,

772
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: so my guy underneath can get the football. Yeah. Yeah,

773
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: you got to be unselfish, right, But I think there

774
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: are certain players that are designated for you. I knew

775
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: when we ran bubble screens and uh, these these hunt

776
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: rounds in the middlefield. That's what I'm here to do.

777
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: But then you look at the defense and they might

778
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: change some things in game plans some stuff. So now

779
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: you know, if you're a smart football player, you kind

780
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 3: of figure that out. But if you are one of

781
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 3: those guys who just runs the route that's on the paper,

782
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: you might get a little frustrated because you're not knowing.

783
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: If you don't know what you're looking at on the

784
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: back end, what's it like in the on the defensive side,

785
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: you guys get into the film room and say, all right,

786
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: we got to eliminate this guy. Let everyone else do

787
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: their thing, Let's get rid of this guy.

788
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes it's we gotta take that guy away, or

789
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: we say, hey, we're gonna take everybody else away, and

790
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 4: we'll we'll, we'll, we'll defend that. But a lot of

791
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 4: times it's just form. It's usually it's more formation driven.

792
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: I used to have a thing called we call it

793
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 4: an audible defense, and my audible would be, wherever that

794
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: guy is, we're rolling to that guy, and didn't matter

795
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: if he motioned across, We're rolling that No matter what,

796
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: we are going to take him away. But that was

797
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 4: really rare because in today's we are you gonna take

798
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 4: DK away? We're gonna take DK away. Well, Jay San's

799
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: gonna kill you, Tyler Lockett's gonna kill you. I mean,

800
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: there's there's a lot of other guys that can kill you.

801
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: So I learned a little bit, man, This is good.

802
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: I learned a little bit watching you by. This guy

803
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: is a great coach coaching. He's offensive coordinator for Roosevelt

804
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 4: High School. Went to his game this past Tuesday playoff game.

805
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: Bo can this week?

806
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 3: Right can?

807
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, you do a great job. Really was impressed. Well, break,

808
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 4: you don't even know what to say.

809
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: No, I just got you know, Matt Nelson in the

810
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: back telling me to break. He was just in my ear.

811
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: I know, I was just let you finish your comment before,

812
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: because no, unless you finish you know. All right? Hey,

813
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: when we return, hopefully the young man JS and will

814
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: be next right here on Hawks Live.

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822
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Speaker 3: man himself, Jackson Smith and Jig with Jackson. How you

823
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna blame that on our producer here. Sorry, now

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Speaker 4: you're how you doing that?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing great. Great to see everybody. Great to be here.

827
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, thanks for coming out. Man Ay there's a

828
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: lot to talk about, right Ohio State. Everyone remembers that

829
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: Rose Bolt game. Obviously what you've done the last couple

830
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Speaker 3: of weeks. But you know, we do prep before the show.

831
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Speaker 3: Are producing NASA hits us with a whole bunch of

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Speaker 3: facts about you. I didn't know you was tearing it

833
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: up like that in high school. Man, it's ridiculous. What

834
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: eighty two touchdowns and forty four games? Man in the

835
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: state of Texas. Now, I'm from California, so you know,

836
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: we like to claim we got ballers. You know, Texas

837
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: got balls. Florida got ballers too. So I showed some love. Man,

838
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: When did you realize? I know it was probably always

839
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 3: aspirations for you to go to college and play in

840
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 3: the league. But was there a moment in high school

841
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: where you're just like, yeah, I'm that guy and we're

842
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: gonna make this happen.

843
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say my junior year. I would say

844
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 6: that's when it clicked to where like, Okay, I could

845
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 6: be a professional after the sport and luckily, lucky lucky

846
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Speaker 6: me here I.

847
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Speaker 4: Am, well, I'm looking at the senior year. We so JSN,

848
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: let me before I go on this. You're now JSN,

849
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 4: How weird is that? I mean, look, there are people

850
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 4: like Tiger, there's DK, there's a few people that's just

851
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 4: a single name. Somehow it's transformed to JSN. How do

852
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 4: you feel about that?

853
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 6: I feel good, I feel like, it's a lot easier

854
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 6: to pronounce in jig ball all the time. So I

855
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 6: don't mind it at all. I heard the name in college,

856
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 6: and you know, it's just been sticking with it ever since.

857
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 4: You and I were chatting with. My kids are in

858
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 4: Dallas and he's from Rockwell. Rock Wall, excuse me, Texas

859
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 4: was just outside of Dallas, a little kind of northeast.

860
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: I guess right, I'm looking. They just had a new

861
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: bond that came out. They're building a one hundred and

862
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 4: fifty million dollars high school football stadium, wow, which again

863
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: is crazy. Now Rockwall, you had about three thousand students

864
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: just talk about high school football there. R We bring

865
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: it up a bunch because we had a few guys

866
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: who were in Houston and they we got the best

867
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: football in Florida. But you know, Dallas, Allen, you guys

868
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 4: just talk about that moment.

869
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 6: I may be biased. I know you're from calic but

870
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 6: in Texas, I just feel like it's second to none.

871
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 6: You know, the city, the support, you know, football's a

872
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 6: religion out there, and I was blessed to grow up

873
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 6: to where, you know, people cared about football and you know,

874
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 6: the stands were packed, and you know, I just Friday

875
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 6: Night Lights. You know, it's a real thing. But just

876
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 6: growing up with your friends and and and going to

877
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 6: high school and playing together, going down you know, the

878
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 6: road of State. You know, there's nothing like it. It's

879
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 6: it's I wouldn't say it's like the movie Friday Night Lights,

880
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 6: but it's it's close for sure.

881
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: No, I feel it. The culture is different in Texas.

882
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: They believe in football. You know. Out here in California, man,

883
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: you gotta pass some levies and some bonds and stuff

884
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 3: out there, they just do it. I love hearing about

885
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: how guys became the person they are. Me I grew up,

886
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: I didn't have a brother or a sister, so I

887
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 3: just through my boys on the black But you have

888
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: a brother. It was a professional baseball player, man, I

889
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 3: would have I would imagine there was some battles going

890
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 3: on in the field, on the court, on the diamond,

891
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: Like what was that like? And how did he help

892
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: you in your development? He's actually in attendance today.

893
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, he is.

894
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: A future Mariner. I love it.

895
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, just growing up we were competitive. You know,

896
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 6: like you said, he plays baseball, you know, at the

897
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 6: highest level, and you know, it was tough.

898
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 3: It was tough. He beat me a lot.

899
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 6: I'm starting to catch back up with the wins now,

900
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 6: kind of making it even. But you know, it was hard.

901
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 6: But I wouldn't be the person I am, or the

902
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 6: athlete or whatever, you know, without my big bro leading

903
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 6: away and showing me, you know how to get it done.

904
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 4: So he takes the baseball route, you take the football route.

905
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 4: I'm guessing he looks like he's a football player too. Yeah,

906
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 4: so he definitely played. Did you play baseball? I did?

907
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

908
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: Just talk about who was better at what?

909
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 6: He would definitely say he was better at football.

910
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 4: He played.

911
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 6: He played football longer than I played baseball. So I

912
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 6: give it to him.

913
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: You definitely got that bill. He looked like he hurt somebody.

914
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: Now you you end up going to UH the Ohio

915
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 3: State University wide receiver, you man, I mean you got Wilson,

916
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: you got a lave you're out there, you got Marvin Harrison,

917
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 3: you got Mecca, who's a local kid from this area.

918
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: Why did you choose that program? And what is it

919
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: about that program that developed such good receivers?

920
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm what stood out was the development and UH

921
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 6: coach Meck starting with him our strength coach, one the

922
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 6: most known strength coaches in all of the country. You know,

923
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 6: I knew that he would, you know, if I stayed

924
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 6: the course and listen to coaches like coach Brian Hartline,

925
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 6: being in the room with guys like Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson,

926
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 6: all the guys that you mentioned that, you know, I would,

927
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 6: you know, be sitting here, you know, hopefully going first

928
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 6: round like I did, you know, just being able to

929
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 6: go down that road.

930
00:44:59,360 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: I think.

931
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 6: I seen it, you know, I seen it how it

932
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 6: unfolded for others. Just staying a course as what I'm

933
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 6: trying to say. And and I knew that, you know,

934
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 6: being in that position, I could do the same.

935
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 4: You're wearing a sweater or it's got some burnt orange

936
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 4: on there though, Yeah, what were you were? You were

937
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 4: you a Texas fan? I mean, I know in Dallas,

938
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: I'm not sure which direction that goes.

939
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 6: Growing up, when I was small, I was an A

940
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 6: and M fan. My dad was an A and M fan.

941
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 6: And then around middle school I went to the Texas

942
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 6: OU football game like every single year. I thought I

943
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 6: was going to go to those colleges, either Texas or OU,

944
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 6: but didn't Ohio State was my first big offer my

945
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 6: junior year. And you know, once I didn't have Texas

946
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 6: OU and all those guys from home in Ohio stayed

947
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 6: off for me. I was like, forget it, We're just

948
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 6: gonna go go be a buck guy.

949
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: Man.

950
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: I want to ask you some ex's and o's. Man.

951
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 3: We broke down your very first touchdown. You're at the

952
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: number one receiver. Tyler Locke is in the slot, you

953
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: got the post, he has the corner. Booter Baker is

954
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: at the safety. He ends up going with the corner

955
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: and then you're wide open when you lined up, then

956
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: you heard that play. Is that what you anticipated? Was

957
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: it a bus by the safety? Like walk us through

958
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: that whole scenario.

959
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we had a crossing concept and yeah, I

960
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 6: was hoping for cover four to where you know they

961
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 6: have their quarters and Booter Baker, you know, he usually

962
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 6: doesn't make that mistake. A great football player, obviously, but

963
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 6: you gotta respect Tyler Lockett when he's running full speed

964
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 6: at you and makes a cut. So he respected Tyler

965
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 6: Lockett took the corner and GINO see me coming down

966
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 6: the middle wide open.

967
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: And that wasn't an easy cash. Neither was kind of

968
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 3: behind you. Has to put the brakes on a little bit.

969
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 3: I know, people like, oh, it's wide open, gray through

970
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: good good throw, Geno got you. But I appreciate that

971
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 3: about you because that's easily the average dude might have

972
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: just dropped that and it tricked off the bag for

973
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: the very first touchdown for sure.

974
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: Well, they're definitely starting to create things for it. Matter

975
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 4: of fact, the winning touchdown last week and one thing

976
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 4: that jumped out of us, I go, oh, he's healthy.

977
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 4: I mean the quickness that you had, and early on

978
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 4: it looked like they were just trying to get you

979
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 4: the ball, you know, whether that was bubble screens, quick screens,

980
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 4: just you know, let's just get them touches. Have the

981
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: plays expanded over the last few weeks for.

982
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 6: You, Yes, sir, I feel like you see that you

983
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 6: know on the field, and you know, I'm just excited

984
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 6: to continue to take on bigger roles. You know, had

985
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 6: a little injury, a little shake up in the beginning

986
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 6: of the season, but return you know, quickly to play.

987
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 6: But I'm starting to definitely feel like I'm getting my

988
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 6: groove and just trying to learn and grow a week

989
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 6: by week.

990
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: When they set you down and talked about how they're

991
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: going to use you with this team in the preseason.

992
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: I go, man, let me see my guy cash them

993
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 3: with some pump returns. They put you back there. Something

994
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: told me. They told you to fair catch it. They

995
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: just want you to get possession there. It was pump

996
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: return something you wanted to do. I doubt they put

997
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: you back there now. Obviously the twentieth picks, whoever met you,

998
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: it makes sure you good. But is that something you

999
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 3: wanted to do. Yeah, for sure.

1000
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 6: I felt like any time I can get the ball

1001
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 6: in my hands, that's good for you know, my team.

1002
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 6: So you know, I definitely would go back there. Like

1003
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 6: I said, the injury in the beginning of the season,

1004
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 6: but you know, you might see me back there here

1005
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 6: in a few weeks.

1006
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: I love that. Look, you guys are talented. You're talented

1007
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 4: at Ohio State. Obviously in the receiver group, you're talented here.

1008
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 4: I mean there's obviously DK Tyler I mean throwing d you,

1009
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 4: I mean Bobo doing some stuff. And I was talking

1010
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 4: with Bump Bump played and it was a wide receiver.

1011
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 4: I was a dB, right, So we didn't we didn't

1012
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 4: complain about touches or opportunities? What is that like? And

1013
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 4: you know, again you're it's a crowded wide receiver room

1014
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 4: and you can't give everybody ten touches. But just how's

1015
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 4: that dynamic work?

1016
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 3: You know?

1017
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 6: I feel like Coach Pete Carroll in the front office,

1018
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 6: they get guys who want to win, you know, first

1019
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 6: and foremost, and you know I can sense that on

1020
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 6: everybody in the receiver room. You know, yeah, yeah, it

1021
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 6: feels definitely feels good to go for one hundred yards

1022
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 6: and catch street three tds. But I feel like we

1023
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 6: have guys in our receiver room who just want to

1024
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 6: win and you know, know, you know, just take what's

1025
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 6: given to them, you know, a week by week because

1026
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 6: you don't know what's going to happen, if it's going

1027
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 6: to be your day or not. But I just feel

1028
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 6: like in the receiver room, we approached the game the

1029
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 6: right way. You know, Tyler Lockett, especially him leading, you know,

1030
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 6: him leading us.

1031
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: What was that that final drive like last week? Right,

1032
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: you guys get the football, you got a chance to

1033
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: win the ball game. You're driving down and then you

1034
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: get inside with the fifteen yard line and you hear

1035
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: your number being called man walk us through the intensity

1036
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: in the huddle during that moment, and then what that

1037
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: moment was like when you heard the play call, you

1038
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 3: line up, you see you getting pressed off the edge.

1039
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: You got the safety over the top. If DK takes

1040
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 3: care of that that corner, you're good to go. Yeah.

1041
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 6: I mean, first I would just say, you know, once

1042
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 6: we got the interception and we're going back on the field,

1043
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 6: I felt, you know, very comfortable. I felt, you know,

1044
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 6: everybody in the huddle felt, you know, comfortable that we're

1045
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 6: going to go down there and score. You know, I

1046
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 6: think that was Gino brings that presence, you know, hey,

1047
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 6: we're about to go down there and win the game.

1048
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 6: And we believed it made a good place. You know,

1049
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 6: being in the NFL, a lot of games are won

1050
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 6: in the four minutes two minutes, So this is something

1051
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 6: we practiced a lot, a lot, and I feel like

1052
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 6: that's what prepared us to go out there and do

1053
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 6: what we do. Hear my name called, you know, every

1054
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 6: every play you know, r PO that has me involved

1055
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 6: or whatever. You know, I'm always thinking, hey I could

1056
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 6: get this.

1057
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: What I'm gonna do?

1058
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 6: And you know it was my time to get the

1059
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 6: ball and DK made a great block and you know

1060
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 6: we won the game.

1061
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: Hell just long enough because you know we beholding as

1062
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: we just enough let them go.

1063
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: You're always holding, you know that, all right? With enough

1064
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 4: football stuff. You're you know here, you are, you grow

1065
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 4: up in Texas, you go to Ohio State. Now you're northwest,

1066
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 4: your brothers here. You know, just talk about a little

1067
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 4: bit one how you like in the Northwest. Yeah, what

1068
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 4: do you like to do in your free time? And

1069
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 4: you know, just maybe even a little bit about your family.

1070
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 4: I know it's kind of three questions, but you can

1071
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: take it anywhere you want. Just give them a little

1072
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 4: bit about you.

1073
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Washington's been been beautiful. I mean, like

1074
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 6: I said, the weather has been unbelievable. I got here

1075
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 6: in April, spent a lot of time in the summers,

1076
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 6: spent a lot a lot of time on the golf

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Speaker 6: course there you go on Lake Washington again, the whole

1078
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Speaker 6: phil uh, for the for the city, and it's it's

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00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 6: been unbelievable. I'm definitely super excited. You know that I'm

1080
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 6: here as a Seahawks. Couldn't see myself anywhere else for real.

1081
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean going to Texas, going to Ohio,

1082
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 6: going to Seattle for like I've seen everything now, but

1083
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 6: it's been amazing.

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00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: All right, Jackson Smith and Jiggle, we appreciate you taking

1085
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: time out of your Thursday get m one more time

1086
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 3: for my man, lots more to do. What do we

1087
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: returned right here on Hawk's Line.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

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00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,640
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00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: Layer here every Thursday at the Diny. This is presented

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Speaker 3: by the Diny Dish. You got the Bellevue Square Center Court. Man. Hey,

1094
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: so it's time for us to go inside the film

1095
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: when we love breaking plays down and now. The first

1096
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 3: play was a fun play because they got their throwback

1097
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: jerseys on and they get into inside the five yard

1098
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: line and we're thinking, come on, you gotta finish. Right

1099
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 3: before this game, the Hawks were one for eight in

1100
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 3: the red zone and they put Jake Bubbo in motion

1101
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: and some greatness happens here. Cutting number one.

1102
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 5: Single setback deep behind Gino who goes under center.

1103
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 3: Bobo goes in motion, Bobo gets a handoff, he stopped.

1104
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 5: Cuts back inside Pison touchdown Saint Hawks.

1105
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: You know what, more, Bobo, you got it.

1106
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 5: He's been doing that so far in this season, coming

1107
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 5: in motion and being the lead block That time he

1108
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 5: got the handoff, stops, cuts back inside from three yards out,

1109
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 5: dives into the end zone.

1110
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: The Seahawks are on the board six nothing.

1111
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 4: Go for it, all right.

1112
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: So on offense, once you get down there, you see

1113
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: number nineteen in the game, you're thinking two things, Right,

1114
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: They're gonna go up top to him, or they're gonna

1115
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: use him as a blocker, which they've done plenty of

1116
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: times out here. So what they do is they put

1117
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: Jake Bobo in motion. Geno's under center. They start him

1118
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: from the left, move him to the right, and the

1119
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 3: left side of the line shows zone left blocking right

1120
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: because typically Bubbo's emotion and he ends up blocking the

1121
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: backside d n So the left side of the lines goes, look,

1122
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 3: we're gonna make it look like ken Walker's getting the football.

1123
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 3: You look at the right side now they're looking stretch right.

1124
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: They're showing that jet sweet blook. So Jake Bubbo gets

1125
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 3: the football and the line parks like the Red Sea.

1126
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: Now I think it was designed for him to get outside.

1127
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 3: But he becomes a football player. He six is foot

1128
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 3: in the ground and says, you know what, their space

1129
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 3: right here, I'm gonna get south instead of getting outside

1130
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 3: and score an easier touchdown. It would he would have

1131
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 3: to work a little bit. If he were to get outside,

1132
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: he probably could have done it. But this, to me

1133
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: is a great example of Shane Waldron holding on to

1134
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: a play for a while and saying, Okay, now's the time,

1135
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 3: week eight, let's go ahead in and put it to work.

1136
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, And as Stevid mentioned in you, we've been running

1137
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 4: that play and they were expecting something. Their defensive tackle

1138
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 4: ran right up field and he ran right by him.

1139
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 4: It's like he has the ball. But he probably thought, again,

1140
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 4: there's gonna be some form of trap or something on

1141
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 4: this thing. But you're right. I thought Shane called a

1142
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 4: really good game. He did a lot of cool things,

1143
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 4: you know, early in the game, obviously late in the game,

1144
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 4: but this is also just Bobo making a play. And

1145
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 4: you know, he'll never be timed again into forty the

1146
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 4: rest of his life, it does not matter. But he's

1147
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 4: got just a feel for the game and some athletic

1148
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 4: ability that you know, he stopped, made a cut. He's big.

1149
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 4: He scores a touch and we got not three touchdowns,

1150
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 4: least end zone one too. No, no, that was that

1151
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 4: was just that was the runner. He's got two receiving ones. Yeah,

1152
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 4: and remember we had a coach and the very first

1153
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 4: one is when Tyler Locker went and got in the football.

1154
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 4: That was more in the back of the end zone.

1155
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 4: His first one. Three touchdowns from an undrafted free agent.

1156
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 3: Come on, man, take it.

1157
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good stuff, all right.

1158
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: This next play, Julian Love picks off pz A Walker

1159
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: after a heads up played by Jamias third down and three.

1160
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 5: Walker from the shotgun slots to both sides.

1161
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 3: Ford in the backfield. Walker's gonna throw fall tipped up

1162
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 3: in the air, balls in a sipped it by Love.

1163
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 5: Love gets it just inside the forty five yard line.

1164
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 5: The Seahawks defense duns it again. They do what they

1165
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 5: have to do. They tipped the ball up. Jamo with

1166
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 5: the tip, Love with a pick. The Seahawks now in

1167
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 5: great field position and we have reached the two minute morning,

1168
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 5: one fifty seven to play in the game. Seattle with

1169
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 5: the ball back the trail By.

1170
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Speaker 4: It's just it's just a huge play. I mean, you know,

1171
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 4: nothing magical here. We decided to bring Jamal Adams, so

1172
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 4: we sent five guys after the quarterback. Jamal actually came

1173
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 4: underneath the tackle guard was a little late and sliding.

1174
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 4: Now they actually had numbers to pick this up, but Jamal,

1175
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: being heads up, jumped high. And I don't know if

1176
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 4: I've ever actually seen a play like that before where

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00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 4: a quarterback drills them right in the helmet. And boy,

1178
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 4: we needed it because there was right on two minutes

1179
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 4: left in the game. Yeah, maybe three, I can't remember

1180
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 4: the exact time, but we needed a turner. We needed

1181
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 4: a big play at that moment, and we got it.

1182
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 4: And I think Julian Love has been is playing as

1183
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: well as anybody we have on our team right now.

1184
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 4: We are so deep, we do not have a weakness

1185
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 4: on defense right now, and we can play so many

1186
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 4: different combinations. So heads up on Jamal Adams, but a

1187
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 4: nice played by Julian Love as well.

1188
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a question for you, Like people look

1189
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 3: at this play and think, oh, that's the easy interception

1190
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: by Julian Love. I look at this and I go,

1191
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 3: that reminds me of a receiver being wide open running

1192
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: down the field. And that football is is hanging in

1193
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: the air, and it seems like it's happening for a

1194
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 3: long time. And what is it like for Julian Love?

1195
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: And then it's different too, because not fun guys. He's

1196
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: in the middle. It's not like he's he's twenty yards

1197
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 3: behind the deepest guy. He's right in the mix. I

1198
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 3: gotta go up there and make a play.

1199
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Speaker 4: Well. And on top of that, I can't who's running

1200
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 4: there as well. It might be Jordan Brooks. I can't

1201
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 4: remember it. So Jordan's looking for the ball too, and

1202
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 4: they could have ran into each other. But the ball

1203
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 4: is not a spiral too.

1204
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 5: You.

1205
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 4: I always telling you, why is it so hard? They

1206
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 4: always go, oh, a dB dropped a ball. That's why

1207
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: they play defense back, not wide receiver. I said no,

1208
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 4: because it's not thrown to you. You have to go

1209
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 4: get the football, and it's you know a lot of

1210
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 4: times it's you know, a wobbly pass or it's thrown

1211
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 4: behind your low And so yes, those ones are very

1212
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 4: similar to I just broke, you know, a ninety yard

1213
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 4: potential touchdown. No one's within twenty yards of me. Please

1214
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 4: don't drop this, and that's not what you want to

1215
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: be thinking when you're trying to catch a football.

1216
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've uh I thought that several times. Thankfully I

1217
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 3: didn't drop it all right. This next play, Gino Smith

1218
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: finds js in for the game.

1219
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 5: When it touched down, Gino from the shotgun, lock and

1220
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 5: wide to the far side JSN. He gets the throw nearside,

1221
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 5: turns out field, got a dock a touchdown, say Hawks,

1222
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 5: no flags, DK metcalf with a great block Jackson spiff

1223
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 5: and Jigga turns up field and takes it in the

1224
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 5: front corner of the end zone.

1225
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 3: Want to drive by the Hawks?

1226
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 5: Thank you Julian Love for the pick, and Seattle goes

1227
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 5: back on top twenty three to twenty.

1228
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 4: So we talked with JSN earlier, who shows his quicks

1229
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 4: on his paper. Let me ask you, when you watch

1230
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 4: this from the end zone, does this look like an

1231
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 4: r PO?

1232
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 3: That's what he said. He said it was an RP.

1233
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 4: He did say yes, Okay, I didn't hear him say that.

1234
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 3: He said, when your name is mentioned in an r PO, okay,

1235
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 3: been excited.

1236
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 4: That's so foreign to me. It's news. I don't know

1237
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 4: what offenses are telling people.

1238
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 3: What gave you the indication?

1239
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 4: It was our offensive line, and you go and watch

1240
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 4: our center and our right guard. I mean they are

1241
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 4: aggressively blocking that. And I see Sharboney start to step

1242
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 4: inside initially for it. Gino doesn't even look for the

1243
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 4: handof he just it's it's quick game outside. And what

1244
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 4: impressed me, there's a lot of things that impressed me,

1245
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 4: is it looks like a run to the people who

1246
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: are having to defend the run. But Jsn's quickness around here.

1247
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 4: I mean, they got this covered. He's got the guy

1248
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 4: on him covered. He just runs away from this guy.

1249
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 4: It's not even close. And obviously DK, you know with

1250
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 4: the block slash no hold is beautiful.

1251
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: I think this is good coaching too, any good play

1252
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 3: design because you have an RPO, but you're throwing the

1253
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 3: football behind the line of scrimmage, so you're telling your

1254
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 3: offensive lineman you can climb to that second level because

1255
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 3: we're throwing the football behind the line of scrimmage, so

1256
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: there's no illegal man down the field. If this word

1257
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 3: RPO where Jason, we're crossing the line of scrimmage, then

1258
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 3: you know it's not gonna be It's harder for the

1259
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 3: offensive line to play that because they got to kind

1260
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 3: of wait to see and feel what the running backs

1261
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 3: doing behind them. So no, I like this man. You

1262
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 3: get pressure off the edge or one on one with

1263
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 3: the safety, it's two on two on the outside. You

1264
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 3: like those numbers, especially with a guy like JSN with

1265
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 3: a ball in his hand.

1266
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 4: Look at Bradford on display. Watch our right guard number

1267
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 4: seventy five. Look how strong this man is. Yeah, this

1268
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 4: man moves people. So why don't you tell the audience.

1269
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 4: I know we all know what RPO is. Why don't

1270
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 4: you just tell him what RPO is?

1271
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: So an RPO is a run pass option. What Gino

1272
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: does is there's a defender that they are throwing off of.

1273
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: Now in this formation right here, you got a too

1274
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: high you got a too high safety look, and you

1275
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 3: have a nick though I believe that's inside of Jackson

1276
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: Smith and Jig, but he's reading him. He goes Look

1277
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 3: if he bites on the playfake or if he blitzes,

1278
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw the bubble screen to JSM. If he stays,

1279
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 3: then I'm going to run the I'm gonna run. Or

1280
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 3: if he bubbles out with JSN, I'm going to run

1281
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 3: the football. So Gino, I think they showed the blitz

1282
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 3: pre snap. That's why he was able just to eliminate

1283
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 3: handing the football off to Zach Charbonnay and say, all right,

1284
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 3: we got two onto an outside. I'm gonna give it

1285
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: to my youngster and let him do his thing.

1286
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Speaker 4: Because they pretty much send the house on this thing.

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Speaker 4: I'm even looking at the free safety. He's got the

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Speaker 4: tight end. There's it's zero coverage. Yeah, or it looks

1289
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Speaker 4: like two initially like you said, and then they bring

1290
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Speaker 4: the guy off the corner on JSN side. The safety

1291
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Speaker 4: ends up picking. He's looking at the tight end. So

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Speaker 4: this is an all out blitz. And so I guess

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Speaker 4: one thing we don't really talk about is what a

1294
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Speaker 4: great decision by Gino. Yeah, you know so, because I

1295
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Speaker 4: don't know if we'd had anything in the run game,

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Speaker 4: I don't think we would have.

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Speaker 3: All right, man, those are your three player we're breaking

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Speaker 3: stuff down. When we return, it's time to talk that talk. Man,

1299
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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about three things there. It could be

1300
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Speaker 3: Leonard Williams, it could be the Ravens Geno Smith, who

1301
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Speaker 3: knows Jason Peters all of that and more. Man, A

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Speaker 3: make sure you get out to the Bellvy Collection Dining

1303
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Speaker 3: District so many great restaurants to choose from. Today we

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01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: had our pre show meal at Central Bar and a

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Speaker 3: restaurant I had, Like I said, I'm basic. I have

1306
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 3: to stay tacos. If you got good tacos, I'm at

1307
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Speaker 3: least give it a try and see what's somebody what

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Speaker 3: you have.

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Speaker 4: I went tacos too, but I went with halibut, a

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Speaker 4: little more refined than steak, with a little bit of conceit.

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Speaker 4: They get my humor, a little bit of cauliflower and

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Speaker 4: a lot of water.

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Speaker 3: All right, make sure you join us here at Hawks

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01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 3: Live at Bellby Square Center course. We have a chance

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Speaker 3: to win gift cards from the Dining District at the

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Speaker 3: Bellvy Collection tonight they giving away gift cards too, Central

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Speaker 3: Bar and Restaurant and Daniels Burler. Like I said, when

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Speaker 3: we're returning, we will talk that talk. That's next right

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Speaker 3: here on Hawk's lot.

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Speaker 1: It's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpus and

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Speaker 1: Paul Moyer on Hawks Live.

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Speaker 3: We're live, Baby, It's Hawks Live. We're still live. In

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Speaker 3: this piece. We got our soldiers, man, these are our

1324
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 3: Hawks Live soldiers. Right once you get to the second

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Speaker 3: to last and the last segment, these are the ones

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Speaker 3: who really care about you. Paul Moyer, I remember that.

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Speaker 4: I well, I know our peeps, I mean, but I've

1328
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 4: not seen our crowd clear out quite that fast before

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Speaker 4: after JSAM left. But this is our most favorite place.

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Speaker 3: They treat us, right, Yeah they do, Yes, they do.

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Speaker 3: All right, it's time to talk that talk? Ready to this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: All right? This is where we go back and forth.

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Speaker 3: We bring up some topics and Moyer reads one, I

1335
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 3: read one, and we try to agree or disagree, right,

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01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 3: and the first one I'll go ahead and gets going.

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Speaker 3: Man Lintle Williams makes this a Super Bowl Oliver defense?

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Speaker 3: Is that true? False? Thoughts? What do you think?

1339
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Speaker 4: Well, I've certainly liked the direction our defense is gone

1340
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 4: since they've been saying since week four, we're the number

1341
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 4: one defense in the league since week four. Now we're

1342
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 4: in what week eight? Nine? We had a bye week

1343
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 4: so week nine, so you know we're talking four or

1344
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 4: five games stretch there. So that's pretty good. But I

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01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 4: believe so. And the reason why is it allows us

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01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 4: from a matchup standpoint, I think the biggest reason why

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01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 4: we end up getting Leonard Williams was the offensive lines

1348
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 4: were about to face Philly is a great offensive line.

1349
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 4: We got to have some girth in the middle there.

1350
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 4: We're not that big defensive line, so you got to

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Speaker 4: have that. And the same thing. We got forty nine

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Speaker 4: ers twice and obviously this week against Baltimore. Here's what

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Speaker 4: I will tell you. A bunch of my talk that

1354
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Speaker 4: talk stuff is going to be decided after this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say it really.

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Speaker 4: Is, because if we condom, don't want to say dominate,

1357
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a tough game. This is a tough

1358
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 4: game we're about to play. You know, Lamar Jackson's completing

1359
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 4: seventy percent of his passers. He's having a great year.

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Speaker 4: They've got receivers all over the board, they've got a

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Speaker 4: good line. Defenses really sound physical, but I think we

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Speaker 4: are too. And if we go and beat Cleveland the

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Speaker 4: number one defense at the time, and I don't know

1364
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Speaker 4: if it's Baltimore number one now, yep, So back to back,

1365
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Speaker 4: I don't want how many. I don't know, if that's there,

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Speaker 4: that may be the first time in history for the

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Speaker 4: Seahawks back to back number one defenses that you're gonna face.

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Speaker 4: It'll say a lot this week, but I do believe

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Speaker 4: it makes us a super Bowl caliber defense. I thought

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Speaker 4: we were pretty close before that.

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Speaker 3: See, I didn't think we were that close. I thought

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Speaker 3: the Hawks were a get out of the wild card

1373
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 3: and see what happens type of team. But then being

1374
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 3: start to happen. The Niners lose three in a row.

1375
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 3: The Hawks find a way to be the really good defense.

1376
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Speaker 3: The game they didn't lose as of late was against

1377
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Speaker 3: the Bengals. He felt like they could have won, that

1378
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Speaker 3: should have won, that should have won. That they started

1379
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Speaker 3: to show me some things, and I'm like, Okay, this

1380
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 3: sea is better than I expected. And honestly, the defense

1381
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 3: is better than I expected. I thought the offense would

1382
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 3: be the side of the ball to kind of push

1383
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Speaker 3: them towards greatness. So I look at this pick and

1384
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Speaker 3: I go, I love the pick. You need help in

1385
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Speaker 3: the interior. It still allows room for the outside guys

1386
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Speaker 3: to grow. And what the interior guys do is they

1387
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 3: force a quarterback to vacate and health these outside edge rushers.

1388
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Speaker 3: So I look at them and I go to super

1389
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Speaker 3: Bowl caliber defense. I'll see utter this week. So I say, no,

1390
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Speaker 3: not yet.

1391
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Speaker 4: So let me ask you a question. Just a fun

1392
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Speaker 4: segment do you see a weakness in our defense? No,

1393
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 4: because we can match up in the secondary. That's what's

1394
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Speaker 4: been missing.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: Then I think Jordan Brooks along with Bobby Wagg Jordan

1397
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Speaker 4: Brooks is I mean, he's playing electric, he's playing elite,

1398
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Speaker 4: elite stuffman. And then you're throwing mafe what he's starting

1399
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Speaker 4: to do. And I again, Gray aunt Jones does not

1400
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Speaker 4: get enough credit John Reid what they've been able to do.

1401
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 4: And then Bobby has got this fountain, a youth thing

1402
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 4: that's just kicked in.

1403
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 3: And we haven't seen Jamal's best game yet.

1404
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 4: Now he's getting better, he's.

1405
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 3: Getting healthier and healthier. So I say, not quite. They're

1406
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Speaker 3: really close to in my opinion, really close.

1407
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Speaker 4: So I just kind of goes to my next question.

1408
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 4: Maybe we've already answered it, But the Seahawks when they

1409
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Speaker 4: win on Sunday, will it shift your expectations for this season?

1410
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Definitely. Now, this is they got a gauntlet coming up, right, Yes,

1411
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 3: they do. You got the Niners twice within a few weeks,

1412
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Speaker 3: you got Philly, you got the Cowboys. But this is

1413
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Speaker 3: like the warm up before the month long gauntlet. So

1414
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 3: if they get this done in Baltimore East Coast. They've

1415
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Speaker 3: been great on the East Coast, so I don't even

1416
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Speaker 3: think that's a factor anymore. It's more dismatching up. You're

1417
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Speaker 3: playing against one of the more responsible quarterbacks in the

1418
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Speaker 3: league right now. I don't think Lamar gets enough credit

1419
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 3: for what he's doing over there. He's got a new

1420
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator in a monk who came over from the

1421
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 3: University of Georgia. He started the season kind of slow,

1422
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 3: trying to figure out who he is and how he fits.

1423
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: You got Zay Flowers over there, who I feel like

1424
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 3: it's the best rookie receiver so far this year. Is

1425
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 3: you run after the catch? Is crazy. There's only three

1426
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,439
Speaker 3: or four league tight ends in the league every year.

1427
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 3: They got one over there in Mark andrews Odell. Beckham

1428
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 3: is banged up. I don't expect much out of him,

1429
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 3: but they also have Gus Edwards in the backfield and

1430
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 3: he'll as well. Edwards is banged up, Beckham is banged up.

1431
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: Will see if they play. So if they get this done,

1432
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 3: this is a quality win. Lamar Jackson is something like

1433
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 3: seventeen eighteen and one against NFC opponents throughout his career.

1434
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 3: He's I think he's like the third most winning this

1435
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 3: quarterback in the last X amount of years. There are

1436
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 3: a lot of hitting stats when you look at the

1437
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens, So if they win this, to me, they

1438
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 3: go from a get out of the wild card type

1439
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 3: of team to your continuing to get into the NFC Championship. Yeah.

1440
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 4: I'm really excited about this game because I really think

1441
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 4: we match up well defensively with them and obviously get

1442
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 4: more Williams and is going to be good. It definitely

1443
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 4: changes for me because now you go six and two,

1444
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 4: we got the Washington the following week at home, you're

1445
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 4: seven and two. Then we go on this gauntlet. But

1446
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 4: the gauntlet is the forty nine ers twice Philly and

1447
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 4: the Cowboys. I mean, that's that that's a road, right.

1448
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 4: But now you're as I mentioned that, Well, I'm not

1449
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,719
Speaker 4: worried about the Yeah, I get and don't get me wrong.

1450
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 4: We played a bad half versus m We we had

1451
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 4: the lead at halftime in the opener. I just we

1452
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 4: had a bad half. I mean to me, it's the

1453
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 4: only thing that's hurt us this year. And we couldn't

1454
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 4: score in the red zone. Versus Cincinnati, we dominated that name.

1455
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 4: We dominated both sides of the ball. I just couldn't

1456
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 4: get the thing in Anzeo. And that's going to be

1457
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 4: important this week as well. But if you're seven and

1458
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 4: two after you, if you win this game and then

1459
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 4: you got Washington, I got Arizona Rams, I'm just I'm

1460
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 4: just throwing numbers down. Now I'm nine and two. Get

1461
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 4: if I split those four games, you know, we're eleven

1462
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 4: and four and I don't even remember who else we

1463
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 4: got left. But games that we can We obviously can

1464
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 4: win this game. It sets up the whole season, and

1465
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,879
Speaker 4: I think it makes them realize we can play against

1466
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 4: any type of footboard play towerhouse. We can match up

1467
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 4: with a team like Cincinnati that throws a ton out

1468
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 4: of the football forty nine ers and may want to

1469
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 4: run at a ton. Yes, it changes everything for me

1470
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 4: after this weekend.

1471
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 3: This is what I need to see the Rams. Excuse me.

1472
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 3: The Ravens have eight interceptions as a team that's top ten.

1473
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 3: Geno Stone, the safety over there, has five of them.

1474
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 3: Things on his own, Kyle Hamilton over there is a

1475
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 3: good safety as well, So different type of challenge this week.

1476
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 3: Last week it was all about the box. It was

1477
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 3: all about that defensive line this week. You respect that

1478
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 3: defensive line because they do lead the league when it

1479
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 3: comes to sacks, but the back end is a bit

1480
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 3: mold better at that safety spot.

1481
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough. I'm really interesting in the game plan.

1482
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 4: It's gonna be hard to run on these guys. Last week,

1483
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 4: you know we talked about you know, Cleveland was upfield.

1484
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 4: They wanted to get through a knife between a guard

1485
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 4: and a tackle or a center and a guard. Their upfield, upfield, upfield,

1486
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 4: so they created havoc. But with that they also created

1487
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 4: lanes so you could hit on a big plan. We

1488
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 4: hit on some big runs. This team is they are

1489
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 4: bull rush run first, a little bit two gap and

1490
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 4: then they get and then they're aggressive in their pass rush.

1491
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 4: Really an interesting challenge this week.

1492
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 3: I agree. All right, here's one for you. Gino will

1493
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 3: outplay Lamar Jackson on Sunday. I'm talking better at completion percentage.

1494
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 3: Lamar is completing seventy percent of his passes. He's accounted

1495
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Speaker 3: for fourteen touchdowns overall, nine passing, five rushing, has only

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 3: turned the ball over three times three interceptions. What do

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Speaker 3: you think about that match up?

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Speaker 4: That that is that is the matchup because look, I

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01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 4: think like last week our defense, he toy outplay Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: We did. I think I think Gino has to outplay Lamar.

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Speaker 4: Now he's not gonna have as many rushing jard but

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Speaker 4: I think he has to get more cold yards. He

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01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:04,879
Speaker 4: has to have a higher completion percentage. And because I'm

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Speaker 4: picking us to win this game, and look and Gino

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Speaker 4: has to outplay him, I'm going to say yes. And

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Speaker 4: I don't know how confident I am I have.

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Speaker 3: I think Gino can not play as good as Lamar

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01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 3: and the Hawks cans still win this game because they

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01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 3: can rely on the run and their defense. And I

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01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,839
Speaker 3: think that sometimes quarterbacks look great in between the twenties.

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01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 3: You're getting the red zone and things happen. But I

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01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 3: think this is a game that Gino gets ripe. It's

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01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,560
Speaker 3: been a while, right the last two weeks. Is that

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Speaker 3: five turnovers, I want to say.

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Speaker 4: And two of them in the red zone. Last year

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01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 4: he did not throw it. He had seven touchdowns, zero

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01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 4: interception on huh. This year he's eight and two. I

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Speaker 4: want to say, eight touchdowns, two interceptions. He's got to

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Speaker 4: get above fifty completion in the red zone. No turnovers.

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Speaker 3: All right, So I'm going to say Gino's Smith will

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Speaker 3: outplay Lamar Jackson. And I'm right there with you. I'm

1522
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 3: just trying to put it out into the universe. Have

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01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 3: that thing circle around land in Baltimore, and you know,

1524
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 3: they say, you know what we got you because the

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01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 3: Hawks have been playing some good football defensively, and sometimes

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01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 3: that's all it takes, right your defense, hold it down,

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01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 3: hold it down, let the offense try to figure it

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01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 3: out the rest for one hundred yards. A couple of

1529
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: weeks ago with Ken Walker, you're getting JSN involve, Jake

1530
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 3: Bobble was involved. DK was sick last week. So now

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01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 3: I think all is going to be healthy, All is

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01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 3: going to be well, and we'll get it done.

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01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 4: I'm hoping. So Lamar is a problem, so hopefully we

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01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 4: got something for him.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well we got something. We got one more,

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Speaker 3: one more segment, Togo, we got something for our faithles

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 3: right here, Gokoo, because I see you with the hat

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Speaker 3: right there, baby, All right, coming the next we'll give

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Speaker 3: you our show recap and final thoughts. Keys to victory.

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Speaker 3: That's next right here on Hawk's Live.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by The Dining district of the bellew

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Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

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01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hawks Live and Michael Bamas with Paul Moyer.

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01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 3: We are live at l B Square Center Court. This

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 3: is the part of the the show where my posture changes.

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01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 3: I'm leaning back now, kicking in with the family. You

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01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 3: know where where if we could have beverages, we would

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01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 3: have beverages right now. And you came up with a good,

1550
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 3: a good suggestion for this segment.

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01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 4: Moy Er.

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01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 3: I want to say more Yezy, and then I say Moyer.

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01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 3: Then I got all my words mixed up. So with Moyer, Okay, Moyer.

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01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 4: I want to mess with I don't want to. I

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01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 4: can't get into b Waltz. All right.

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Speaker 3: I feel you. I respect that about you, man, I

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01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 3: respect that. So we're going to go through the Hawks

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01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 3: schedule and Moyer wants to predict what their wind loss

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01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 3: is going to be at the end of this year.

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Speaker 3: So when you look at it, talk me through it, Moyer,

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 3: what do you think?

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Speaker 4: Well, because we talked about how important this game is

1563
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 4: and we'll know a lot more and again this weekend

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01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 4: won't define this team that we're gonna keep getting better.

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01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 4: We're young, you know, we got Leonard Williams. You know

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01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 4: it's gonna take a bit as well. But if we win,

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01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 4: it's a counting on us winning. We go to six

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01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 4: and two. The next game, we have Washington here win

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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 4: seven to two. We're seven to two. Then we go

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01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 4: to the Rams. I'm just telling you that's a win.

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01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 4: I mean, Stafford has got a bit of a sprain

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Speaker 4: in his elbow there. They're just we had a bad

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01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 4: second half. I don't expect that again, even though they

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01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 4: are a bit of a pain in our side. But

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01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 4: now we're eight and two, and it gets interesting because

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 4: now we got San Francisco Thursday night at home Thanksgiving. Right,

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01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 4: we got to win that one, and that that's revenge

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01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 4: to me. I'm winning that, sorry guy, I'm taking that win.

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01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 4: We're four well, because I think it's favorable. I got Washington.

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01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 4: The Rams will look Baltimore's to me is the is

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01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 4: the litmus test? Right and okay, where are we truly?

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01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 4: And if we lose that one, we'll have to redefine

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01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 4: ourselves a little bit with you know, the forty nine

1584
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 4: ers in Dallas. But I'm getting that one at Dallas

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01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,839
Speaker 4: the following Thursday, which is really cool because the Cowboys

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01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 4: play on Thursday. We play on Thursday, we all come

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01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 4: back the following Thursday. That's gonna be a great game.

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01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 4: I'll give that one to him. I don't you know.

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01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 4: I think Cowboys are pretty good. We're gonna have a

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01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 4: big following.

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01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: There, though.

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01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 4: I know there's a ton of people I've talked to

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 4: there going there. So now we're nine and three, we're

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01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 4: out of forty nine ers. I got to give that

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01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 4: one to them, even though I think we're gonna beat them.

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01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 4: I just split, you know, Yeah, we split it. So

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01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 4: now we're nine and four Philadelphia at home. Look, it's

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01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 4: proven time. We got to get that one. Ten and four.

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01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 4: I think we match up well with them too, But

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Speaker 4: that'll be a that'll be a playoff game. And you

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01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:53,919
Speaker 4: got Tennessee at Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Do we win that one.

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Speaker 4: I'm winning the one at home in Philly. Yeah, I'm

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01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 4: going ten and four. Look, I'm taking us. You asked

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01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 4: me if we're a Super Bowl cowper defense. Then we're

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01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 4: at Tennessee and we got Pittsburgh in Arizona.

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01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 3: You win those, you win those?

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01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 4: Come on, I mean, what if we stumble on one

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01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 4: of those. We're talking thirteen and four, twelve and five.

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01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 4: It's so weird, odd number. But that's why this game,

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01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 4: this Sunday is so big. Yeah, so big.

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Speaker 3: I agree one hundred percent with your analysis of the schedule.

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01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 3: The only thing that would derail anything that happens knock

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Speaker 3: on wood are players injuries going down, right, and at

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01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 3: some point someone's gonna go down. That's just how the

1616
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 3: NFL works. Hopefully it's not someone that you really depend on.

1617
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 3: But on the flip side, you can look at the

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01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 3: other teams and say they're gonna deal with the same thing. Right,

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01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 3: You got to say healthy. We see the forty nine

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01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 3: ers what they're dealing with in their health. Matthew Stafford

1621
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 3: is an old man in the NFL. We'll see how

1622
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 3: that works. Dak Prescott is one of the most unreliable

1623
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 3: expensive quarterbacks the league has to offer for you. And

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Speaker 3: then who is Tennessee? Well will Levice through for three touchdowns?

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Speaker 2: Yea?

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01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 3: Four touchdowns? Last week? Did they win the game tonight?

1627
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 3: Been paying attention to anybody?

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01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 4: They were up like ten or thirteen? Nothing?

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01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 3: We Steelers won. Steelers came back one, and everyone's got

1630
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 3: that game.

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01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 4: Let me always tough, but we got we got the

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Speaker 4: Steelers at home. Can I ask you a question?

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Speaker 3: You can ask me whatever you want to, Paul you.

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01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 4: We were talking about injuries. What's the one player on

1635
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 4: this team we can't lose?

1636
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 3: It's Gino Gino.

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01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 4: I agree with that, don't get me wrong, And it

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01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 4: would hurt us because Genos is our leader and though

1639
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 4: but I'm like, you know, I think I think Drew

1640
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 4: could could weather the storm for us. But okay, take

1641
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 4: away the quarterback.

1642
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Speaker 3: He's got to win.

1643
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 4: Well, I think we could, is my point. Forget the quarterback, namely,

1644
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 4: one player we can't lose right now.

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Speaker 3: The ways playing I think is Joy and Brooks.

1646
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 4: No, I'm with you on it. We lost Cross.

1647
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 3: You can't be with me both times to come with

1648
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 3: someone else? Who do you think it?

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Speaker 4: Number twenty one?

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01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that.

1651
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 4: I just what he does match up inside outside, his toughness.

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Speaker 4: To me, if it makes us a complete secondary, I'd

1653
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 4: hate to lose anybody. But I think we have depth

1654
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 4: that a lot of positions that one, to me would

1655
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 4: really hurt.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I ain't mad at it. No, I'm not mad

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01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 3: at any of y'all either our fans who stayed here

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01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 3: hey even after the young man JSN left man. We

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Speaker 3: appreciate you, guys. Special thanks to John Radigan, Jackson Smith

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Speaker 3: and Jigg before joined the show. Our board operator is

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Speaker 3: Max Struble, onside engineer is the lovely Brennan Rodgers production

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Speaker 3: of Sensitis Chelsea Sanders, and our executive producer is Nasa Shoby.

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Speaker 3: The Seahawks pre game show was live this Sunday starting

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Speaker 3: at seven am. Until next time. I'm your host Michael

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Speaker 3: Bumbas with my man Paul Moyer will be back next

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Speaker 3: week right here on Hawks Live