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Speaker 3: Hey everyone, Emily Abadi here. You are listening to episode

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Speaker 3: one seventy three of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast, words

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Speaker 3: it down with inspiring individuals to talk about big ones,

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Speaker 3: tough moments, and everything in between. On the show, what

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Speaker 3: you can expect vulnerable motivation, and candidate discussions with everyone

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Speaker 3: from top athletes and CEOs to aspiring entrepreneurs on what

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Speaker 3: it really takes to follow your passions.

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Speaker 4: My mission is simple to inspire you to be.

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Speaker 3: Your best self, move with intention, and have some fun

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Speaker 3: along the way. For episode one seventy three of the show,

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Speaker 3: I am chatting with Tara Styles.

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Speaker 4: She is the founder of Stralla Yoga.

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Speaker 3: She is obviously a yoga teacher, a best selling author,

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Speaker 3: and so much more. Such a fun one in which

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Speaker 3: We also talk about her first few classes at Crunch

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Speaker 3: not a five page spread. Tara and I also rap

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Speaker 3: about teaching during COVID, what it's been like for her

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Speaker 3: Really loved this conversation head of last getting to know

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Speaker 3: a few laughs along this listen. Make sure you're following

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Speaker 3: along with Hurdle over on social media. It's at Hurdle Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I am over at Emily a Body, and I want

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Speaker 3: to give some love to the Hurdle community. You all

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Speaker 3: have been making my week listening to my newest collaboration

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Speaker 3: with Spotify. Last week I dropped a forty five minute

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Speaker 3: and talk Unlocked series. My episode specifically is called Conquer.

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Speaker 3: I would love for you to give it a listen.

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Speaker 3: I am sitting down with Tara Styles. She is a

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Speaker 1: waiting for Whitney Houston to show up, you know, she

441
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: was always like twelve hours late, so doing yoga with

442
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Speaker 1: the other dancers in the video or the the cam

443
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 1: folks or whoever it was. You know, I kind of

444
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 1: always found a little job for myself even within all

445
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: of these gigs. So I was definitely having.

446
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Speaker 4: Good time back then.

447
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Speaker 3: You're talking about being in videos, You're talking about different

448
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Speaker 3: modeling opportunities. Even today you're on camera constantly. Can you

449
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Speaker 3: talk us through a little bit about your journey with

450
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Speaker 3: perhaps how you view your body as we all know

451
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 3: a lot of these mediums being in front of other people,

452
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Speaker 3: the room for a lot of potential criticism. I'm sure

453
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: that there have been times where that conversation, that dialogue

454
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Speaker 3: internally has been something that you've had to work on.

455
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess it's always been a part of my life.

456
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Speaker 1: You know, I've been a performer since I think a

457
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: lot of little kids, you know, we jump off the

458
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Speaker 1: couch and we say, look at me with that that's

459
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: still my my somehow it's in there, you know. And

460
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Speaker 1: I love this idea from a little age of just

461
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Speaker 1: being on stage and in front of people to connect

462
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Speaker 1: with people, And it didn't really make sense to me

463
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Speaker 1: until much later what was really missing from me with dance,

464
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: And I always kind of felt like I wanted to

465
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Speaker 1: dance with the people together. So I love this idea

466
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Speaker 1: of performing, but it's not really a show.

467
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: It's a connection thing. So I remember even explaining.

468
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Speaker 1: That to my dance teacher and him saying, well, yeah, Dahtera,

469
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: that's why you're great for yoga, because you get to

470
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Speaker 1: do this with people together.

471
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Speaker 2: So I know, for you know, for myself, you know.

472
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Speaker 1: It's strange to be on camera constantly and to be

473
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Speaker 1: performing constantly and doing all of these things.

474
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Speaker 2: But I think the one big thing that's saved me.

475
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: Or continues to remind me to not obsess or worry

476
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: or panic or whatever it is, is this is a

477
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: connection thing for me, and it's a together project for me.

478
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: And you know, I know when I let myself get

479
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: into that frame of mind, I feel better, and I

480
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: know that the yoga class goes better, or the project

481
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: goes better. You know, my inhibitions go away, and I

482
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: feel like that little kid again, you know, dancing on

483
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: stage at the local nursing home.

484
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Speaker 2: You know, for the people, just.

485
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: Happy to be there and happy to share my knowledge

486
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: and skills and whatever, but just more importantly happy to

487
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: make a good connection because we're all on camera all

488
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: the time. Now it's you know, there's got to be

489
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: another big crisis coming with superficiality, and you know, all

490
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: of the things that we put on ourselves, and it's

491
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: it's it's all happening right now, so it's got to

492
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Speaker 1: be coming out later, all of our problems with us.

493
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.

494
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Speaker 3: And I would imagine that there had been times where

495
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Speaker 3: in all of this casting processes, like someone always has

496
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 3: an opinion about something about you, and that although maybe

497
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: it gets to be something that you get a little

498
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: bit more used to with time, I would assume that

499
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: it was never easy to be told like, uhh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think kind of maybe back then, you know,

501
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Speaker 1: I think now I'm curious to see if it's more

502
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: inclusive now, if people are less dismissive, you know, because

503
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: it definitely was something that.

504
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: Oh, no, get out of here, you know kind of

505
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 2: a thing.

506
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: But the one thing where I really found my place

507
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: was allowing myself to dress like my mood and to

508
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: be like myself, and I almost became, I guess, for

509
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: a period of time, a little cartoon version of myself,

510
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: and I think that was maybe self protection, but it

511
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: also saved me from trying to be like other people

512
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: that were maybe up for the same gigs that I

513
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: was up for. And I remember even at one point

514
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: I had an agent that said, you need to make

515
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: your hair straighter, and where tank tops and jeans it

516
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: was seven jeans were cool at the moment, like yeah,

517
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: and like heels, like Chanelle heels, and I'm thinking that's

518
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean, i could play that part in a commercial,

519
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 1: but that's not my personality. Like I'm the kid and

520
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: like my little brother's t shirts that are cut off,

521
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: Like my hair's a little messy.

522
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit punk, but I'm not really a skater.

523
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: But I knew kind of what I was at that moment,

524
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: and if the job wanted that, I could get that.

525
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: If the job didn't want that, it wasn't for me anyway,

526
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: So I kind of got saved for a little while

527
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: at least while that was my personality, remembering, do your

528
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: personality dress like you actually are, be like you actually are?

529
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: And if that's not the thing for today, then that's.

530
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: Fine for anyone who's struggling with adopting that attitude or

531
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 3: that mindset. Again, this way that we've been being on

532
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: camera constantly, of course, the influx of social media constantly

533
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: being on there being able to so easily, and I

534
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: would say, to the detriment of many, like compare yourself

535
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 3: to other people. So for the people that are struggling

536
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 3: to just like truly accept their true selves, what advice

537
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: do you have for them?

538
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: I think it's really important, you know, And again I

539
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: think I got lucky because I got to discover myself

540
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: before we saw everybody constantly. So I think it's really

541
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: important to take time to discover yourself, discover who.

542
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: The heck you are.

543
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds superficial, but what do you like

544
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: to wear, how do you like to do your hair?

545
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: What kind of fashion is interesting to you? Not just

546
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: popular right now? What kind of books do you like

547
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: to read? You know, it sounds so silly and simple,

548
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: but you know, it's so easy to just conform to,

549
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: at least right now, the person that you look up

550
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: to that has the most followers. And it sounds so

551
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: superficial to say that out loud, but if you kind

552
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: of look at your category and you look at the

553
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: person that you think is doing so great. You know,

554
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: it's so easy to just try to copy exactly what

555
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: they're doing with the best intentions, but you lose yourself

556
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: along the way, and yourself is obviously we all hear this,

557
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: but that's your your big power, you know. And every

558
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: kind of amazing successful person that we all love, you know,

559
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: at least you know the good ones that are really inspiring.

560
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: They say that somewhere along the line in some interview

561
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: or some magazine. They say, when I started being myself,

562
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: that's when everything started working. And it's not just be

563
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: yourself when you become a superstar. It's you know, be

564
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: yourself and get good at the thing you're doing and

565
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: share the thing in your own way. But the be

566
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: yourself is it's a huge ingredient, and it's impossible to

567
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: find if you're just looking at everybody else all day

568
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: long and wondering, should I do that, Should I be

569
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: like that person, Should I buy that shirt?

570
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: Whatever it is?

571
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you love the shirt, but maybe you

572
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: don't really and you want to find yourself a new shirt.

573
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah No, I mean I totally get it. Even yesterday

574
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: I met another podcast host. We're in completely different verticals.

575
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 3: She's very successful at what she does, and I'm sitting

576
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: there after her and I were chatting and I'm asking

577
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: myself like, am I doing enough? Should I be making

578
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 3: all these X y Z? Should I be doing whatever?

579
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: You know?

580
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: Like just so much? Should I? Should? I? Should I?

581
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: And then it was like stop, take a moment and

582
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: like on what you are doing, reflect on what makes

583
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: sense for you and your brand, and then proceed in

584
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: a way that feels true to that right instead of

585
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: just being like, well, this person does this, so I

586
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: should do this, Like that isn't serving me and getting

587
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: wrapped up It's kind of how we started this episode, right,

588
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: like getting wrapped up in the things that I can't

589
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: do anything about in that moment.

590
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: That's also not going to serve me.

591
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: So doing that like deep dive in that gut check

592
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: is so it's so ridiculously critical.

593
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: And so fun too.

594
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we all it seems so silly, get to

595
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: know yourself and maybe it even seems a little bit selfish,

596
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: but it's it's absolutely necessary.

597
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: I mean we're sharing ourselves literally.

598
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Speaker 1: Whatever you do, whether if you teach kindergarten, or you're

599
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: putting yourself as your own brand, you're still sharing yourself.

600
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: So it's essential to you know, to take that time

601
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: to get to know yourself, to enjoy yourself. And you

602
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: know you're here for however you want to organize it

603
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: for a reason. You know you're not you playing the

604
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: part of somebody else in this life. That's, oh my gosh,

605
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: so stressful.

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659
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Speaker 3: the pounding the pavement phase, Oh my gosh.

660
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: Well, you know, yoga was starting to get a little

661
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: bit more. Maybe I was just finding more things. And

662
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: actually I did this ad for crunch Gym. It was

663
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: a yoga ad, but it was like a nail polish

664
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: was pedicure tammy or whatever.

665
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: It was a silly thing, you know.

666
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: They were doing all of these kind of like I

667
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: think they were still stuck in the nineties. It was

668
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: like this pop art kind of an angle, you know.

669
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: And I just said, on the shoot for that, oh,

670
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: can I along with the payment get a gym membership?

671
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: You know, I'd love to go and see if there's

672
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: any yoga class in your chip.

673
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: So I went and somehow I got so lucky.

674
00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: There was about five amazing yoga teachers there and they

675
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: were so nice, and they were just like this person

676
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: that I had studied with before. And they were all

677
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: teaching different styles, you know. This one guy's name was

678
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: John c. And he was so nice to me, and he.

679
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: Always just said, you know, keep going, keep doing your thing.

680
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: He just gave me this personal encouragement that a yoga

681
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: teacher never did before. You know, usually the yoga teacher

682
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: sits in the front of the room and then they

683
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: leave and you never had you never going to go

684
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: talk to that person. That person is like whoa you

685
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: know up there. So I was kind of open into

686
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: this whole new world of going to the gym and

687
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: taking these classes from these awesome people. And little by

688
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: little they started to invite me to their studios and

689
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean studio.

690
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: You know there's studios. So John C.

691
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: And Michael Lee and Amy and Pohlady was there and

692
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: Amy said, I'm doing a yoga teacher training and I said, what.

693
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: The heck is that?

694
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: And she made a flyer and she said, here's the

695
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: flyer and she said, well, I do this for a job.

696
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking this is incredible, you know. And she

697
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: I had a little scooter and a BlackBerry and she

698
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: was taking her scooter around town teaching private classes to

699
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, bankers and you know, TV hosts or whatever.

700
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: And she said, you should come to my yoga teacher

701
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: training program. So I'm thinking, okay, sure, fine, let's do it.

702
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: So I did that. And even in.

703
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: That, you know, everybody in that program was still twenty

704
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: thirty years older than me, in a completely different phase

705
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: of life.

706
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 2: And I'm there and I'm thinking, well, this is.

707
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Cool, but I don't I don't have time at least

708
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: in my current vision of things, to you know, commit

709
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: to teaching a yoga class every single night. For the

710
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: rest of my life at eight pm on Monday night

711
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: or whatever. That just seemed horrifying. You know, I can't

712
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: do that. But I love learning this and I loved her.

713
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: I love how she presented herself. So I thought, Okay, well,

714
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: here's one example of a person in the world doing this.

715
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: And I just kind of left that in the back

716
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: of my mind and kept proceeding, you know, in my

717
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: other life. But it kind of started to get in

718
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: there a little bit of while people are doing this

719
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: for a job in their own way and having fun

720
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: and enjoying themselves.

721
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 3: I love the reference to like first name, last initial,

722
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: like that is the most like fitness, like planning, Oh

723
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 3: are you going to John C's class on Tuesday, because

724
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: it's never John, because there could be two John's, so

725
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: John see.

726
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 4: And I also love the reference to Amy having a scooter.

727
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: It's like back then that was the thing that was

728
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 3: the sign that she had made it with her scooter. Today,

729
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: I feel like you see people on the scooters like

730
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: bopping around all the time here, which is hilarious because

731
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: when you go to the other cities and they have

732
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: like the bird scooters and the lifts scooters and that's

733
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: like more normal, but here, like people buy their own

734
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: scooter just to get around and have some sort of

735
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: a status symbol.

736
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a thing. And I remember asking her

737
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 2: what do you do with your day?

738
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: And she would say, well, I have at five am

739
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: a client, And I'm like, what's a client? She would

740
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: say something. You know, she'd go over to this person's

741
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: house and teach them yoga, and you know, she would

742
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: do a few of those, and then she had a

743
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: class at the gym, and then she had this group

744
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: of us doing this training. So we were kind of

745
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: bopping around a different space as she was renting and

746
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: she was kind of doing this and she was just

747
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: very open and telling me how she spent her time.

748
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: I just thought it.

749
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: Was interesting and I didn't know of anybody else doing that.

750
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: So the yoga teacher training program is obviously super intensive.

751
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 3: It's beyond just doing yoga, it's so much more. During

752
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: that time, do you reflect on any maybe the biggest

753
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: lessons you learned about yourself as you really got into

754
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 3: the thick of that.

755
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I feel like I was so much younger

756
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: than everybody else that it was hard for me to

757
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: compare in a way and to have the same moments

758
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: that the other people were having. So I remember just

759
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: kind of sitting around taking it all in, and you know,

760
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: the physicality part for me seemed obvious because of my

761
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: dance background, but the emotional component was seeing everybody else

762
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: go through their life story and how they came to yoga.

763
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 2: Just observing that was super fascinating.

764
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: You know. I felt like I wanted to find a

765
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: few more people that were my age getting into this,

766
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: but I couldn't find them yet because I just just

767
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: weren't around in this particular course.

768
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: But I just thought, Okay, there's a whole world of.

769
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: Emotional stuff and I haven't experienced those things yet, but

770
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: I want to have this yoga thing with me when

771
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: they come.

772
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: So interesting that you say that, because that's certainly like

773
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: a moment to be wise beyond your years. When I

774
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: look back now, I mean, I'm thirty three. When I

775
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: look back at my earliest years in New York, I

776
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: think I got here when I was twenty three and

777
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: not having that deep understanding, like I knew obviously that

778
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: there was so much more life to live, and.

779
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 4: I had so many lessons to learn and all the things, but.

780
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: To be able to have that perspective and be like,

781
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: I'm going to learn so much in this time period,

782
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: and I want to be able to best prepare myself

783
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 3: and go into that phase with like this wealth of

784
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: opportunity and knowledge and like excitement.

785
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 4: It's just kind of cool.

786
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: You seem to be doing just fine.

787
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 4: But kinda cool.

788
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: Okay, you go through the teacher training, you have a certification,

789
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: and when do you decide are and I'm going to

790
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: actually really really run and do something with this.

791
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: Never just I'm still deciding. I think I just kind

792
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: of put it away and just kept, you know, talking.

793
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: It didn't really seem like a beginning, middle, and end either.

794
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: It was just another thing, another yoga thing. And you know,

795
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: Amy was so nice, and she's still so nice. She

796
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: invited me and a bunch of people over to this

797
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: place she was staying in Long Island for some retreat,

798
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: and you know, things just kind of kept going on

799
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: and on, and I thought, well, this is cool, but

800
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't have time again to try to do this

801
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: for myself. Everybody else kind of was starting to teach

802
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: and do it more for real, you know, as a career,

803
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: it was still more of a life thing. But you know,

804
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: I think something happened, you know, just as I was

805
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: talking to more people in my age group.

806
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: Really they weren't they weren't going to the studios. At

807
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: that point.

808
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: It seemed to just be the older you know, thirties

809
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: and forties crew that would go like after some problems

810
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: happened in life, and this was sort of the solution.

811
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, well, we have problems too.

812
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: We need to get in there, you know. So I

813
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: just started to lead, and I did it in a

814
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: silly way, I think because I was I wasn't taking

815
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: myself seriously at all. I didn't feel, you.

816
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: Know, qualified from an age perspective.

817
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: I think because everybody had all of this life experience

818
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: and they were leading these classes, and they were telling

819
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: stories before the classes start about their lives. And I'm thinking,

820
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't have any stories to tell yet that I

821
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: want to share with doctors and lawyers and smart people,

822
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: you know. But I know how to lead a yoga class,

823
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, for my dance background and also from this training,

824
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: and I know how to take people through that safely.

825
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: And I wonder what would happen if I don't share

826
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: my own life story And I just do the class

827
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: and see what happened. So I made this ridiculous sign.

828
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: I went to like Mood Fabrics and sewed this sign

829
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: that said free yoga, and I went to the park

830
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: Central Park and I just stuck it in the ground

831
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: and I just started doing yoga and a few people

832
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: would come, and I just led a yoga class, and

833
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: people would hang out afterwards and say, oh my gosh,

834
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: I feel better, I feel awesome, and they would start

835
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: to tell me their life story after and my life

836
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: story never came into it at all. And I think

837
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: that's what I was kind of looking for. I wasn't

838
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: looking to come in as this wise person with all

839
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: of these you know, poetry readings and lessons in every class.

840
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: I needed to have this big theme around it. I

841
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: just wanted to share the practice in the simple way

842
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: and see what happened. So I guess that kind of

843
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: became a laboratory because more people started to come, fall

844
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: started to happen. We needed to find an indoor space.

845
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: The group wanted to keep going, and I said, okay, fine,

846
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: so started a tiny studio in my then at the

847
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: time boyfriend's apartment and more people started coming, and you know,

848
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: it just it just started taking up more of my time.

849
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: It was still a hobby. It was still you know,

850
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: a nighttime thing. We had one class a week, and

851
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: then it was can you can you do something on

852
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: Tuesday nights? Can you do something on Wednesday nights? And

853
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, fine, you know, so it just

854
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: started becoming more and more.

855
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: You know, eventually we had to move out of the apartment.

856
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: You know, the other tenant started saying, you can't have

857
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: a yoga studio here. That's weird, and like, you're right,

858
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: it's not cool. Sorry, everybody was nice, but you know,

859
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: they noticed the sign on the door, so like yoga

860
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: on the fifth floor. So actually we eventually moved into

861
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: the Crunch Gym space. It became an abandoned building and

862
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: I remember that space being amazing on Broadway and Houston,

863
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: and I just walked by and there was a sign

864
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: for lease, and I just said, can I least just

865
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: that yoga room. You know.

866
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 2: The rest of the.

867
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: Building had like weeds coming up to the cracks. It

868
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: was completely abandoned. It's probably a Chase Bank right now.

869
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: But I just remember, like for six months we had

870
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: that room and everybody thinking, well, this used to be

871
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: the Crunch Gym yoga room.

872
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: And then we got a you know, a legit space.

873
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 3: So what a full circle moment though, like going back

874
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: to Crunch and getting that space for you.

875
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm still looking for John C. You know, I wish

876
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: they put the last names.

877
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: I want to send them a thank you, but you know,

878
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm googling John C.

879
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: Yoga, crunch Gym, you know, oh yeah, but nothing.

880
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: I feel like there's got to be someone listening to

881
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: this podcast that has a connection to John C somewhere.

882
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 3: So if anyone knows that John C from about what

883
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 3: is this like fifteen twenty years ago?

884
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was like two thousand and two. I was

885
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: in a PT Cruiser commercial.

886
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 4: He was years ago.

887
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: I was a commercial girl.

888
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: Like.

889
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: He was just so nice to me. He really encouraged

890
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: me as well.

891
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 4: The references on this podcast the PT Cruiser. Do they

892
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: still make PT Cruisers?

893
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: They're still around.

894
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if they make new ones.

895
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: The old ones are still around.

896
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: Oh my god, they used to look so funny. Anyway, Okay, okay,

897
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 4: we're looking for John C.

898
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: If anyone knows where we can find them, thank you,

899
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 3: please please hit up Tara personally, so then you're teaching

900
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: yoga at this crunch space. Also, like how intimidating but

901
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: also beautiful. You taking on like a commercial lease in

902
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: New York City.

903
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: Well, that didn't happen until I was pretty sure that

904
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to do this, because at that point, okay,

905
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: you need to actually commit to doing this, and you

906
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 1: need to show that you can pay for it, which

907
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: is a whole.

908
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: Other thing and actually wanting to do it.

909
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 1: So you know, I definitely waited until things were happening

910
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: and like people were coming and I could save the

911
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: money and you know, pay the landlord and all of

912
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: these things. And also the landlord he didn't want us

913
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: at all, but he loved celebrities and it was the

914
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: easiest thing.

915
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: At that point.

916
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: I had met you know, Deepak Choper and Jane Fond

917
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: and I could name drop a little bit. And he

918
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: literally just show him pictures on my phone of me

919
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: with these people and he gave me the lease.

920
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 2: Oh my god, was this thing.

921
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: I still had to pay for it, but he didn't

922
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: want a sinky yoga studio in his building.

923
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: So a stinky yoga studio, and I mean the good

924
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: thing about a yoga studio aside from like the electric bill,

925
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: is that relatively it has a low overhead cost.

926
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It was pretty simple. And another good friend

927
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: of ours, Adam Gordon, who's a kind of a beautiful

928
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: space creator builder guy, he did all the design and

929
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: back then it was pre Instagram, so you didn't need

930
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: to have like a neon sign and a plant wall.

931
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: It was just an open space with a beautiful changing

932
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: wall that you know, boys on one side, girls on

933
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: the other. You know, nice bathroom whoever wanted to use

934
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: the bathroom, and you know, good sound system.

935
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: And that was it so simple.

936
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 3: In that process, though, I'm sure you had moments where

937
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: perhaps like imposter syndrome crept in, you were like, am

938
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: I really doing this?

939
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 4: Am I really opening the space? Am I really going

940
00:45:59,320 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: to take on this lead?

941
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: So how did you silence that little voice in your

942
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: head that sometimes would creep in?

943
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 4: I'm sure with a little bit of doubt.

944
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people are like, what are

945
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: you doing? Like you can't open a yoga studio, and

946
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I just did.

947
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: I'll see what happens.

948
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: No, But I think I at that point I was

949
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: so excited that I just wanted to share the class again,

950
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: without the story, without the roomy poem, without a lot.

951
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: Of the bells and whistles that I.

952
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Saw work for a lot of people. But people that

953
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: I was identifying with were kind of the people that

954
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: weren't doing yoga yet. So enough of them were coming

955
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: and being like, yes, this works for us. I love

956
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: not being pushed into poses. I love a non rigid approach.

957
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: I love, you know, being able to be myself in this.

958
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: And there was enough of us kind of doing that

959
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: to sustain everything. But so many of my you know,

960
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: actual yoga friends from back in the trainings and the

961
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: day would say, what do you what are you doing?

962
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: You know, are you what lineage are you teaching? And

963
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: you know who's your guru?

964
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know if this is appropriate,

965
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, bah, I'm just going to go

966
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: over here, you know. And eventually they all kind of

967
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: came around and said, oh, I get it. You're presenting

968
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: this in a different way. And you know, I knew

969
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: enough about authenticity to know that I had to be myself.

970
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: If I wanted to teach in their way, it wouldn't

971
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: work for me. I couldn't tell my life story. I

972
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: didn't have enough of a life story. I couldn't pick

973
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: out a roomy poem that related to the season of

974
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: the year.

975
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: You know.

976
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: It just I wasn't going to do that as good

977
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: as they were going to do that, and their people

978
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: were going to connect to that. So I knew what

979
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: I was doing was helping people that were coming. So

980
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: for me, that was enough to keep myself moving toward that,

981
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: even though it still makes me really nervous because I

982
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: know people are like, you need sunscrew it, you need this,

983
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: you need this.

984
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: And and I just for what I'm doing, I.

985
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: Don't When did you feel as though you were truly established,

986
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 3: not just in that space, but as I would argue,

987
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: a thought leader in your industry.

988
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so this, you know, act of God happened, which

989
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 1: was ridiculous, which was Lisette Alvarez, who was the bureau

990
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: chief for the a bureau chief of the New York Times,

991
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: came and this was you know, there was no profiles

992
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: being done, at least that I knew about. And I

993
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: was a subscriber, and she said, I have this column,

994
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: it's called Stretch. I review all the local yoga studios.

995
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, don't say anything. Mean about me

996
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: because enough people already do, and like it's really hurting

997
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: my feelings and whatever.

998
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: I just kind of let it go.

999
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: And so she came and she kept coming back and

1000
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: coming back, and I remember like giving her a copy

1001
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: of my couple books at the time, and she says, no, no,

1002
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: you can't give me anything.

1003
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: I'm a journalist.

1004
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: She would pay for class the whole thing. She called

1005
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: my mom, she called Deepak, she called Jane. She asked

1006
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: to come over to my apartment. And I'm thinking, this

1007
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: is going to be the worst case for me ever,

1008
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: this is going to be the detriment of anything that

1009
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: I want to do, and I'm going to have to

1010
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: move back home with my parents in the basement. So

1011
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: she kept coming and then she called me the night

1012
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: before the article was coming out, and she said, just

1013
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: to let you know, this isn't for the stretch column.

1014
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: This is the cover of the Metro section. It's like

1015
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: a five page thing on you. Yeah, And then she

1016
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: read it to me out loud, and the first couple

1017
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: paragraphs were like three bloggers that were mad that I

1018
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: don't teach Sanskrit in my classes. But then the rest

1019
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: of the thing was about how I was helping people

1020
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: with yoga and feel better and doing it in this

1021
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: different way, all of this stuff, and you know, I

1022
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: hung up the phone with her and I was shaking.

1023
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: And then Deepak called me and he said, you know,

1024
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: tomorrow is going.

1025
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: To be a big day for you. You know, and you

1026
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: know I knew him. We were doing stuff together, and

1027
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: he was always like such a good, you know, role model,

1028
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: like uncle figure for me.

1029
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: He would always say, do this, go here, don't do that,

1030
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: you know, very great to me and gracious to me.

1031
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: So I knew something was happening.

1032
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: So I was just full on terrified, and you know,

1033
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: opened up my door the next morning the paper was there.

1034
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm on the cover of it that day in class,

1035
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: like all the and this was a different time. This

1036
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: was twenty ten, so like TV cameras were outside, you know,

1037
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: stuff I don't think happens now when you have a

1038
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: profile in something. But because of that time, all of

1039
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: these other things just started to happen really fast, and

1040
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: it was really nerve wrecking because I thought, Okay, I'm

1041
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: not ready for this big press, this big opportunity. I'm

1042
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: just I just feel like a kid still shuffling around

1043
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: in my sweatpants, you know, doing my thing. But you know,

1044
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: she called me and she said, you know, are you okay?

1045
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: And I just thank you so much. You're an angel

1046
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: to me in some way. But this is still just

1047
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: completely you know, making me panic. But it opened up

1048
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: a whole new world and led to so many things

1049
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: happening quickly, and then you know, I needed to just

1050
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: actually slow down so I could pick and choose and

1051
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: navigate and not make mistakes, you know, because before if

1052
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: I made a mistake, it didn't matter. Now I made

1053
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: a mistake, and you know more people were watching.

1054
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1055
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: Wow, And I believe is that when she called you

1056
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: a yoga rebel.

1057
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the title of the article, which you know,

1058
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: which became what everybody referred to me even now. And

1059
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: you know so many people have used that for their

1060
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: own businesses. I think there's like a company called yoga Rebel.

1061
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: You know, there's rebel, this rebel that you know. I

1062
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: don't think rebels a new word. But I was really nervous.

1063
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: I thought labeling me the yoga rebel people would think

1064
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm rolling in on a Harley, you know, got my

1065
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: whips and chains and drinking whiskey or whatever. The way

1066
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: that she presented it was like, she's just doing it

1067
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: in a way that's you know, makes sense for her,

1068
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: and that was rebellious, and I thought, okay, if that's okay,

1069
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: then that's okay.

1070
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, it did change everything for me.

1071
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: I love that idea doing something in a way that

1072
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 3: makes sense for you, and in doing that it could

1073
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: be seen as rebellious, but like, how brave as well

1074
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: right for you to stand by the way that felt

1075
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 3: just truly authentic to who you are in a time

1076
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: where you said the first you even reference the first

1077
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: three paragraphs of that article, people criticizing you, criticisms coming

1078
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 3: in left and right, but being able to stay firm

1079
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: in your stance and firm and who you are, that's

1080
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 3: really special.

1081
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, I felt like I was so

1082
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: benefited and still am and just constantly from yoga. And

1083
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, if somebody wants to do yoga in a

1084
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: way that someone else is offering, they don't need me.

1085
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: Nobody needs me.

1086
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: But I could connect with somebody that connects with it

1087
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: in a way that I connect with it. And if

1088
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: I can help that person connect to themselves, that's always

1089
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: motivating me. And you know, I felt like that was

1090
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: that is bigger than just me wanting to do yoga

1091
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: and feel better. I know that I can kind of

1092
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: see somebody and say, oh, I think I can help

1093
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: you with this, and then I can go away. You

1094
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: can kind of do it on your own, or keep

1095
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 1: doing it with me, or it doesn't really matter.

1096
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: But I think that's always kept me moving.

1097
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: It's like I have to do this because I know

1098
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: I can do something maybe useful.

1099
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 3: How have you managed to navigate those criticisms? Are the

1100
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: or you know, the conflicting opinions. Life is so much

1101
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 3: different now than when you had the space that was

1102
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 3: the old crunch gym. Now you've got, you know, one

1103
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five thousand plus people following you on

1104
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: social media. That's not even considering your YouTube following, which

1105
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: is massive. So how do you kind of silence the

1106
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 3: haters so to speak in the day to day now?

1107
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: Well, now I don't know about it, if it's happening now.

1108
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean, back then, it was sort of I was

1109
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: doing this thing and everybody else was doing something else.

1110
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 2: But I also kind of knew that what I was.

1111
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: Doing wasn't harming anybody, And I also felt I mean,

1112
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: this is going to sound mean, but I saw the

1113
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 1: harm other yoga was doing. It wasn't their leaders weren't

1114
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: in jail yet, but I saw them doing the bad things,

1115
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: and I would say something and say, you shouldn't be

1116
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: pushing that person into position. You shouldn't be, you know,

1117
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: dating that student who's nineteen and you're sixty five, you know.

1118
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: And I was told to be quiet, you know.

1119
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: And all of this stuff is coming out now and

1120
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: it still repeats. You know, it can have a new whatever.

1121
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: But I felt very emboldened to say you can. You

1122
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: can say whatever you want about me, and I'm not

1123
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: going to turn around and say things about you. But

1124
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: I already have said something about your system. But I'm

1125
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: going to focus everything I know about the harm that

1126
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: that causes on the good that I want to be

1127
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: a part of and a change I want to be

1128
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: a part of.

1129
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: I don't want yoga to be rigid.

1130
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: I want it to be easy, and I want it

1131
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: to be something that everybody can feel connected to because

1132
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: it is inside.

1133
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: And for so.

1134
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: Long, leaders of yoga and all kinds of powerful systems

1135
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: have held on to that power and abused people that

1136
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: are vulnerable and I think that that's made me have

1137
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: an armor against criticism because I know that it's not true.

1138
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: I know that it's wrong, and you know, people can

1139
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: say things.

1140
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't have anything to it when you know what

1141
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: you're doing is is you know, is doing no harm,

1142
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: is causing some good.

1143
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 4: How has that transition been for you?

1144
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 3: I mean, of course we can reference the past, like

1145
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: sixteen eighteen months of the pandemic, but beyond that, this

1146
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: transition to teaching in a virtual capacity versus doing so

1147
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 3: much in person like you had started out.

1148
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: I started making videos on YouTube.

1149
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: When I found out what YouTube was, I said, okay,

1150
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: I can do this with my laptop. And you know,

1151
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: back then, there wasn't very many people doing it, so

1152
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: it was easy, and it also wasn't something that I understood.

1153
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: When videos started getting a lot of views and a

1154
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: lot of comments, I just thought it was my mom,

1155
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, clicking on you.

1156
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: I had no idea.

1157
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: So when I opened the space and people would come

1158
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: from different places around the world and they say, I

1159
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: did a video with you on YouTube, I was just

1160
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: starting to figure out the people in the computer were

1161
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: also the people in real life. So I started to

1162
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: have an easy understanding for myself that online is great,

1163
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: in person is awesome, and if you can't reach someone

1164
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: in person, you might be able to reach them online.

1165
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 2: And you know, these all can exist together happily.

1166
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: So you know, I had the YouTube and that was cool,

1167
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: and I think when in person started getting really busy,

1168
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: I just said, I I don't want to make YouTube

1169
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: videos anymore. This is more fun.

1170
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: And you know, when the in person started to get

1171
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: more full.

1172
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 1: With you know, traveling and things like this, I would

1173
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: meet people and they would say, well, I'd love to

1174
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: do a course with you online. So we figured out

1175
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: how to do that, and it just kind of became something.

1176
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: If I couldn't be with somebody, and it didn't seem

1177
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: like this was good and this was bad. It kind

1178
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: of always existed together. So you know, I've had in

1179
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: some capacity and online and in person life kind of

1180
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: for a long time. I guess since two thousand and

1181
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: six or something.

1182
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

1183
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: But but yeah, now right now everything is online and

1184
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: we have online classes every day through our app, and

1185
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: we've had that for a while, so that's really nice.

1186
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: But I think for me, the timing just seems so

1187
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: amazing that the live element is new. I remember in

1188
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: the studio in twenty ten thinking and talking to some

1189
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: of the instructors there saying, wouldn't it be cool if

1190
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: we could do have a camera and broadcast it around

1191
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: the world, But it would you'd have to be like

1192
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: ABC News to do that. Back then, it would have

1193
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: to be like a live sports match. You know, you'd

1194
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: need hundreds of thousands of dollars, when now all you

1195
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: need is a camera. Any any camera will do. So,

1196
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, now it's kind of amazing because we have

1197
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: live class every day online, which I love because I

1198
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: love It's not that I love the in person although

1199
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: that's great too, But for me, it comes back to

1200
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: that connection. So I can make a video put it

1201
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: up and that's great too, and we have hundreds of

1202
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: those from over the years. We continue to do those,

1203
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: but the live connection is it is really new.

1204
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: So that's something I'm great before right now.

1205
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 4: And the live class is on the app.

1206
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the app every day? Yeah?

1207
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 4: Got it? Okay?

1208
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 3: And just for anyone that's interested in getting in on

1209
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: the app, is it a monthly subscription annual subscription?

1210
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 4: How does that work?

1211
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? You can do both.

1212
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: So I think for me, I've always wanted to make

1213
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: it as easy as possible for anyone. So you can

1214
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: do a monthly subscription or an annual you can drop

1215
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: into our workshop. So I kind of think about it

1216
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: just like a regular in person studio. So however it

1217
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: works for you can work.

1218
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 4: I love that. I love that. Okay.

1219
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 3: So I mean these days, as I mentioned before, a

1220
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: hell of a lot of people following you on social

1221
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: they see not only a yogi, but a businesswoman, mother wife.

1222
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 3: For you, when you look in the mirror, what is

1223
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 3: it that you see looking back at you?

1224
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, somebody with really long hair that' sees a haircut.

1225
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: Oh man, you know, I'm just I'm grateful. I'm just

1226
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: so happy that I get to do all of this

1227
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: literally every day. I mean, the things that I spend

1228
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: my time doing are the things that I love. And

1229
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: I don't take that for granted. I didn't think that

1230
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: that would happen for me either. I thought that I

1231
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: would dance for a little while, or maybe even do

1232
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: yoga for a little while, and then at some point,

1233
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully get a job. But I have, you know,

1234
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: no job qualification or skills to do to offer, but

1235
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: figure out something you know, I thought, you know, maybe

1236
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: I was blogging, maybe I could work as a feature

1237
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: writer or something like that. You know, it was kind

1238
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: of always dipping my toe into to see if I could,

1239
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, have a backup plan like that.

1240
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: But you know, for me, getting to do this is

1241
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: really the reward.

1242
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,959
Speaker 1: Getting to spend my day doing exactly what I love

1243
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: to do and have time to rest, have time to

1244
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: hang out with my family, have time to practice with people.

1245
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: You know, that's awesome, and I think I don't take

1246
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: that for granted. I know that's not everybody's life, and

1247
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: that's just pure luck in so many ways for me,

1248
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: and just.

1249
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: I feel so happy for no reason really.

1250
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I have goals and all of that, as

1251
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: people I want to work with and things I'd love

1252
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: to do, and you know, all of these things, but

1253
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: I've done so much of it already, and you know,

1254
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: it does really come back to that. Every single day

1255
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: I get to spend my time doing the things that

1256
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: I love to do and being with people that I love,

1257
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: and that's really awesome.

1258
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 4: What do you see as the next phase for you?

1259
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I mean, I I'm so grateful for learning

1260
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: about phases from Jamie Redford. Robert Redford's son used to

1261
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: come to the studio. He's passed away last year, and

1262
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: that's we went to Sundance and started doing a lot

1263
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: of things in Utah with them, and his sister sat

1264
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: down and explained to me that life is chapters. And

1265
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is amazing because I remember telling her, Okay,

1266
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: we're living in Utah now for a little bit and

1267
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: then we'll go back to New York and we'll do this,

1268
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: and she said, take it one step time, okay. So

1269
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, this is amazing. So actually, right now

1270
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: we're in Illinois. We got this house to be close

1271
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: to family for a little bit, which seems really odd

1272
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: for a lot of my friends in New York, like,

1273
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing. You're in the middle of Illinois.

1274
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: So I think being here for a while, and you know,

1275
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: when things are.

1276
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: Kind of opening up in a really big way for us,

1277
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: it needs to be fully back to no virus completely

1278
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: for us to do what we do, because we go

1279
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: to Berlin and France and all over America and we

1280
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: bring people from like fifteen countries together, which is the

1281
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: best case scenario for even getting a cold. Everybody would

1282
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: always leave with a cold after the end of something,

1283
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: so you know that needs to go back to you know,

1284
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: no virus for us to do that, but you know,

1285
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: traveling again when that's possible, and you know, being with

1286
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: people here. I love the idea of you know, kind

1287
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: of giving classes at the local community center, helping people

1288
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: that have you know, disease and sickness, things like that.

1289
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: So kind of going back to just the simple list

1290
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: of things.

1291
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: You know, I've had a lot of what can look

1292
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: like glamorous things happen to me or that I've got

1293
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: to be a part of. But I think it's a

1294
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: simple phase, at least for right now. Kind of sharing

1295
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: yoga with the guys that deliver the couch in between

1296
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: the online classes.

1297
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 4: I love that. I love that, Tara. I'm so grateful

1298
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 4: for you.

1299
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: Right now, as we wind down the final question, you

1300
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to offer yourself one piece of advice.

1301
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, when you really were getting started

1302
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 3: at with this yoga journey, finding out what teacher training is,

1303
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to manage that pounding the

1304
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: pavement chapter of your life, you have an opportunity, looking

1305
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 3: back on it, to offer that young woman one piece

1306
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 3: of advice, What do you tell her?

1307
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I would tell her to slow down

1308
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: and trust yourself.

1309
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, too much information would make a whole butterfly effect.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much for your time today. I

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Speaker 4: really appreciate it. How can the hurdlers follow along with you?

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Speaker 4: How can they keep up with you? Give me all

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Speaker 4: the details?

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I mean now, the internet makes that super easy.

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Speaker 1: So I'm Terra Styles. You can find me at terrastyles

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Speaker 1: dot com.

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Speaker 2: Stralla yoga dot com is all of the yoga.

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Speaker 1: We have guides everywhere all around the world, teaching and

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Speaker 1: partner studios. You can practice with any of our friends

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Speaker 1: and guides. I have live class every day on the

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Speaker 1: Stralla Yoga app.

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Speaker 2: Come find me anywhere amazing.

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Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast

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Speaker 3: Another Hurdle Conquered.

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Speaker 4: Catch you guys next time.