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Speaker 1: And I should have got your new title right here,

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you could do nothing more offensively in that scenario. Exactly,

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Speaker 2: Noel's a dog.

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Speaker 2: So he got a chance last year to show what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're seeing Christian Fulton. He's healthy and we're

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Speaker 1: beginning of last year and that we saw when he

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Speaker 1: then a rotation and Christian Roland Wallace, who we've seen

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Speaker 1: him continue to descend. And then the safety rotation where

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Speaker 1: you've added Lohi Gilman to go in with Jaden Hicks

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Speaker 1: is encouraging. The final group we're going to jump into

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Speaker 1: here on this edition Offending the Kingdom, which is on

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Speaker 1: time arrival. Everything we want to see if there is, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's on time. Is the running back room. I cannot

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Speaker 1: think of thirty two teams in the NFL in doing

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Speaker 1: a quick scan in my brain that there is a

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Speaker 1: room that has improved as much as the Chiefs running

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Speaker 1: is a running back room which has an incredible ceiling.

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Speaker 2: Ken Walker is as advertised. Yeah, he's really really impressive.

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Speaker 2: And again it's OTA's there's no pads, but at least

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Speaker 2: in the passing game so far, he's just popped every

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Speaker 2: chance we've got a chance to watch practice. There was

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Speaker 2: one last week during the open media day where he

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Speaker 2: caught a scream of one hand and got upfield. His ability,

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Speaker 2: I think, to not only be a weapon in the

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Speaker 2: passing game, but to make defenders miss, to create miss tackles,

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Speaker 2: and to create big plays maybe out of nothing, it's

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Speaker 2: just really exciting and that's what we need because this

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Speaker 2: team was not very explosive last year. We talked about

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Speaker 2: that really all season long and that length this offseason.

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Speaker 2: We had just three rushing plays of twenty or more

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Speaker 2: yards last year, and just one of those came from

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Speaker 2: a running back. One was from Kareem one from Xavier Worthy,

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Speaker 2: and one from Patrick Mahomes. Well, how about this Ken

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Speaker 2: Walker and Amari Dimercado, who were very excited about as well.

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Speaker 2: They combined for twelve of those runs all by themselves

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Speaker 2: last year. So even if they don't have that production,

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Speaker 2: if they just have half of that production, that's doubling

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Speaker 2: what we had last year right as a team. So

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Speaker 2: it's just really exciting to think about what those two

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Speaker 2: guys can add to this offensive backfield. Rishard Smith I

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Speaker 2: end of last year with I think fourteen touches against

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Speaker 2: the Raiders in the final game of the season. He's

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Speaker 2: building off of that. And Emmitt Johnson is obviously very

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Speaker 2: exciting as well. So this room is it's like night

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Speaker 2: and day. I think it's significantly improved. There was a

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Speaker 2: mandate for this running back room to prove, and I

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Speaker 2: think we've definitely seen that so far.

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Speaker 1: The last forty yard run the Chiefs had was in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three in September. That just gives you an

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Speaker 1: idea of the lack of explosiveness. That's another pile that

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Speaker 1: we can stack on here of how the Chiefs can

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Speaker 1: go from six and eleven to spin it around or

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Speaker 1: really quick to getting double digits on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the ledger. But de Mercado had all those forty

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Speaker 1: yard plays he and he's looked really good so far

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Speaker 1: in Ota Smooth. You can see his ability. Ken Walker.

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Speaker 1: You can go to a high school game and go ooh,

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Speaker 1: that kid's a college players better than everybody else. You

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Speaker 1: go to a college game and you go, oh, that

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Speaker 1: guy's a pro because he sticks out and everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Ken Walker gives you that feeling when you watch OTAs,

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Speaker 1: Oh that's what a Super Bowl MVP running back looks like,

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Speaker 1: because he's just different. De Marcado, though, is the sneaky one,

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Speaker 1: and with Emma Johnson we had high hopes for him.

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Speaker 1: With Purshard Smith and Persuarre Smith has the flexibility with

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Speaker 1: his wide receiver background at Miami and the chance that

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Speaker 1: you can do a lot of different things with him,

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Speaker 1: which this offense likes to do with either rbs or

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Speaker 1: those kind of slot receiver types. And so that running

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Speaker 1: back room, if you want to get excited about something,

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Speaker 1: that RB room is vastly different.

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Speaker 2: And looking at our veterans, it's no surprise Forerbershard or

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Speaker 2: Emma Johnson because they know no different. But for ken

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Speaker 2: Walker and for Amri Demarcado to come here and to

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Speaker 2: really embrace our culture is pretty cool. I mean, ken

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Speaker 2: Walker's the Super Bowl MVP, signed a big contract. If

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Speaker 2: he didn't show it for OTAs, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: people would really be too concerned about it. But he's

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Speaker 2: out here and he's working and he's ready to be

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Speaker 2: a part of this and he's not above any of

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Speaker 2: the work that's required as time of year. I mean,

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Speaker 2: these are voluntary practices and they're out there absolutely busting it.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, ken Walker, I think has been one of

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Speaker 2: my highlights so far. And you know, going into the

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Speaker 2: off season, he was like, Hey, if we could get

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Speaker 2: ken Walker, that'd be amazing, But that doesn't seem very realistic.

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Speaker 2: I think both you and I were like, Oh, that's

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Speaker 2: not going to happen. After the super Bowl, then the

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Speaker 2: news came through and it's like what And it's fun

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Speaker 2: to watch practice and to be like, yeah, that guys

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Speaker 2: on our team now.

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Speaker 1: Even better than we thought it was going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot of you are going to travel this summer

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Speaker 1: and all around the world. Right for our folks and

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Speaker 1: fans that are in they call it holiday right in Europe,

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Speaker 1: vacation here. One of the best things you can possibly

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Speaker 1: see if you're flying is on time. Right now, why

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Speaker 1: Matt and I are excited about the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. We're looking at the board and it

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Speaker 1: says on time arrival