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Speaker 1: It is time for Chris Sims to join us here

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Speaker 1: on God Bless Football presented by FanDuel and the FanDuel Sportsbook.

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Speaker 1: He has missed Thursday Night. We are gonna throw out

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Speaker 1: last Thursday. It was a weird day. He made the

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Speaker 1: picks on a Wednesday. He is eleven and one when

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Speaker 1: there was an isolated game on Thursday night. Does that

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Speaker 1: sound good to you?

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Speaker 2: Said? That sounds good? I know, listen.

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Speaker 3: I was sitting there on Thanksgiving Day going damn, I'm

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Speaker 3: not mister Thursday on Thanksgiving, that's for sure. But I

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Speaker 3: doubt very few or very many people were right. At first,

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Speaker 3: I was going, hey, I picked the Packers to be

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Speaker 3: the Lions.

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Speaker 2: Here we go whoo. And then you know, Kansas.

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Speaker 3: City couldn't move the ball for an hour and a

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Speaker 3: half at a time, and that was like uh oh.

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Speaker 3: And then you know who would have saw and I

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Speaker 3: knew that was a coin flip game. Definitely didn't have

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Speaker 3: the guts to pick the Bengals, but that was incredible

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Speaker 3: to watch them win that football game. And then, really,

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Speaker 3: to me, the shocker of the weekend was the fact

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Speaker 3: that the Bears just smashed it down the throat of

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Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles defense play after play after play.

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Speaker 2: That was amazing to me. So it was an awesome weekend.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I wouldn't have been made a lot of

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Speaker 3: money on those first four games there.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Well, waiting that first game is always dangerous, right, because

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Speaker 1: then people are confident, they're like, oh, Simson knows what

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Speaker 1: the fuck he's talking about this, and they start doubling

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Speaker 1: down and betting more than they should. Probably, you know,

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Speaker 1: probably probably I probably screwed some people over.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that. Uh, what Mike he's putting at himself.

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Speaker 1: What I love about the Chicago Bears, and what I

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Speaker 1: love about Ben Johnson in particular, is he's never satisfied

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Speaker 1: after beating Philadelphia. Who does he call out the offense

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Speaker 1: at Caleb Williams And that's those are the people that

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Speaker 1: he's in charge of of making good. And so I

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Speaker 1: love that about Ben Johnson because he is willing to.

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Speaker 2: Call out and never satisfied. That's right.

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Speaker 3: He's like I always say this on my shows, right,

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Speaker 3: he's a psycho. He's a psycho in a good way.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's it's never gonna stop. It's football all

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Speaker 3: the time. Oh, we could have been a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: You could have ran that route a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: You could have thrown this ball a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: I could design better plays. That's the way Shanahan McVeigh. Right,

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Speaker 3: they're all psychos that way. So yes, it's constantly pedal

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Speaker 3: to the medal needling your team doing that. And I

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Speaker 3: think within that too, right, I think it's calculated if

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Speaker 3: you ask me. With Ben Johnson a little and then

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Speaker 3: one he knows this is a problem too. I think

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Speaker 3: he says it to kind of make a statement to

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Speaker 3: his team and Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: I think three.

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Speaker 3: He also looks, he looked at Green Bay Film and

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Speaker 3: he went, whoa wait, hold on, I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 3: able to run the ball down their throats like I

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Speaker 3: did the Philadelphi Eagles. They're a little different this way.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to throw the ball to win this

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Speaker 3: football game, at least at a better capacity than which

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Speaker 3: they've been doing. So I think that was also intended

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Speaker 3: because he knows the past game's got to make some

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Speaker 3: plays this week. But yeah, I am with you, and

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Speaker 3: I love that about Ben Johnson. Hey, you heard me

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Speaker 3: say last year I thought Ben Johnson was the most

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Speaker 3: slammed dunk, higher good coach there was gonna be right,

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Speaker 3: and you're seeing the effects of what he's doing with

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Speaker 3: the Bears, and you're seeing the effects of what it's

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Speaker 3: done to the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: Is there a Ben Johnson this season? Is there a coach? No? Nope,

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Speaker 2: nobody like that.

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Speaker 3: No. I don't think there's anybody like Ben Johnson or

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohane. I didn't put Liam Cohne quite in the

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Speaker 3: hierarchy of Ben Johnson last year, but I still was like, damn,

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohene. His offense is amazing. I don't see how

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Speaker 3: it's really gonna fall apart here. I expected him to

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Speaker 3: do good things in Jacksonville. But yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 3: there's anybody, at least on the offensive side of the

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Speaker 3: same category. We got some defensive guys that are out there, certainly,

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Speaker 3: but no no offensive geniuses that I think are slam

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Speaker 1: Just with Ben, I think it's all calculated, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's part, in part what makes him a great coach,

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Speaker 1: because he's not gonna let them feel like they're better

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Speaker 1: that spot is, Hey, I know we're off to a

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Speaker 1: good start. I know we exceeded expectations. We haven't done

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Speaker 1: anything yet. You're not nearly as good as you thought

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: And they're tough and chippy because of him, because he's

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Speaker 3: tough and hit right, that's what he is. And usually,

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Speaker 3: as we've talked about a lot, teams take on the

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Speaker 3: personality of their coach more times than not. And look

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Speaker 3: at it. You look at good football teams, they usually do.

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Speaker 3: Look at what the New England Patriots of Mike Vrabel.

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Speaker 3: You think they've taken his attitude and how he plays

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Speaker 3: a little bit of course, right, Shanahan's a psycho. One

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Speaker 3: are the forty nine ers are a bunch of psychos

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Speaker 3: running around hitting each other?

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Speaker 2: Yea.

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Speaker 3: So that's usually how it goes down. And Ben's rubbed

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Speaker 3: off on his football team.

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Speaker 2: I was telling the guys right before you came on.

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Speaker 1: What makes Rabel such a great coach, Whether he actually

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Speaker 1: to the point where they actually believe him, you know, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's right, Listen, coaches are saling. They're used car salesman.

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Speaker 1: That's what they are.

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Speaker 3: Well, they are, and you have to have some realness

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Speaker 3: about you, right, So as long as you stay real

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Speaker 3: and stay.

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Speaker 2: Too or give the appearance that it's real.

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Speaker 3: Right right, well, and like you know, players can see

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Speaker 3: through bullshit. Right, that's kind of what happens in some

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Speaker 3: of the places I went, and I even Tampa Bay

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Speaker 3: with John Gruden. I think he know people would go, wait,

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Speaker 3: I heard him say this, and I thought he was

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Speaker 3: heard him talk crap in a meeting room and then

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Speaker 3: he's a fake, it's not real. None of this messages

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Speaker 3: what's real what's not? I don't know, right, So you

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Speaker 3: got to stay true and consistent to who you are,

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Speaker 3: and I think Rabel does that. And then Vrabel has

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Speaker 3: that what I call the Midas touch that I really

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Speaker 3: that's why I call him Bill Parcells Junior, because that's

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Speaker 3: how Parcells was.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, it was.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like always needling you got to be better.

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Speaker 3: My dad, you know, he didn't he his old phrases.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know my name began with pH until I retired, because.

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Speaker 2: It was always fucking Sims. Fucking Sims. That's how it was,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 3: But he did have a way of also showing he

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Speaker 2: As a player too.

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Speaker 3: Belichick had that same way, and yeah, I think Rabel's

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Speaker 3: got that magic touch as well.

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Speaker 1: Fucking Sims sense okay, never called them Phil, No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: My dad always just say that when he was young,

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Speaker 3: when I was younger, and I'd be like, I don't

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Speaker 3: I started to realize what the hell had meant?

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Speaker 2: So funny.

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Speaker 1: One of the many things that I love and respect

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Speaker 1: about you is you are perfectly willing to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: put your hand up, I got this one wrong, okay,

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Speaker 1: And you don't take yourself very seriously. So you were

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Speaker 1: not big on Drake May coming out of college, and

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering the places in terms of his game, what

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Speaker 1: has surprised you about his game?

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Speaker 2: Because he has exceeded your expectation for him coming out

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Speaker 2: of college. You were wrong on that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, one hundred percent. I'm always willing to

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Speaker 3: say I'm wrong. I'm not going to sit here and

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Speaker 3: be able to be right on everything. There's things, And

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Speaker 3: you know what's crazy is I still have a lot

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Speaker 3: of mentions on my social media. They're like, you need

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Speaker 3: to say that you were wrong about Drake May, and

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Speaker 3: I you know, this is where I just.

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Speaker 2: Want to go.

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Speaker 3: How about you watch one of my fucking shows or

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Speaker 3: my videos or something and you would see I've said

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Speaker 3: it a million fucking times already, right, a million, But

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Speaker 3: you're just gonna pay attention to social media and be like,

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen a quote that says he was wrong.

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Speaker 2: Like there's so many.

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Speaker 3: Idiots out there that just lived through that. I cannot

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Speaker 3: stand it. All right, Yeah, do you want to stop?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to say it one more time?

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Speaker 2: Just so one more time I was wrong about Drake May.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was wrong, and I've been wrong before and

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Speaker 3: I'll be wrong again.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Drake.

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Speaker 3: First off, it was a phenomenal class as we know,

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Speaker 3: and Drake May it came down to really all in

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Speaker 3: one thing was really just the throwing in the football.

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Speaker 3: The ball was all over the place his senior year

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Speaker 3: or his last year at North Carolina, all over the place.

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Speaker 3: And I think if we watched it with, you know, together,

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Not only were their misthrows in completions, even some of

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Speaker 3: the completions were underwhelming. And I think that's why there

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Speaker 3: was some teams that were like, I don't know about

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Speaker 3: Drake May, but he's fixed all those mechanical issues. You know,

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Speaker 3: he used to let his feet get real close together

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Speaker 3: and then take these long strides. That's gone. He used

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Speaker 3: to have kind of a segmented segment and throwing motion.

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Speaker 3: He used to go like this and pause and then

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Speaker 3: throw from right.

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Speaker 2: But this is where I've got to reevaluate myself a

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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty five and where we are now, there's

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Speaker 3: enough quarterback coaches out there and stuff that they can

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Speaker 3: get these guys back on track if they're a natural

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Speaker 3: enough thrower.

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Speaker 2: And he is that.

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Speaker 3: He's smart as hell, he's a good athlete, and he's

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Speaker 3: being coached by what I would call two geniuses, one

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Speaker 3: in Vrabel and the other in Josh McDaniel's Yes, and

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Speaker 3: he has been phenomenal. Right, I'm still gonna say Matthew

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Speaker 3: Stafford's the MVP, but Drake May's number two right now

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Speaker 3: for sure have been really impressive.

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Speaker 2: Wow, wow, tailor tricky spot for you, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna ask whose ball is the MVP court

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Speaker 4: in right now, because.

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Speaker 2: He maintains it's in Drake May's court.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I mean, I listen, I think we

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Speaker 3: got to stop recency biased.

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Speaker 2: All the time, right, I like that though, so I think,

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Speaker 2: I'm just not there yet, Sims.

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Speaker 4: The Patriots are finally the AFC Championship favorite on FanDuel

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Speaker 2: Most complete team in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Right, there's no real area you look at to go

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Speaker 2: Is what we do. We just do this and this

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Speaker 1: But in terms of kryptonite, it would be Josh Allen, Right,

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Speaker 2: Right, just as well they be Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: I could already tell you that.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Sims, does it ever shock you when people like

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Speaker 2: We were just like, wait, they're good, They're team's good.

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Speaker 3: If you got a good quarterback, then you're good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just it doesn't quite work like that, as we know,

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Speaker 2: Or Jared got that much amount of money. Who's really good.

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Speaker 3: But again I'm not going to say is in that category, right,

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Speaker 1: Tell her, let's try it your way, as Sims tell

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, as far as you got to take

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. That's how close the league is. So

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Speaker 3: If you have a crazy quarterback, he can close the gap,

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Speaker 3: he can hide some issues if he's really awesome, and

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Speaker 2: And that's you know, that is real. There's no rust.

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Speaker 1: My point is if the Patriots had Tyrod Taylor is

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Speaker 3: No, they would not be the one seed in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: Chris Jacksonville, Indianapolis, or Houston the team you are most

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Speaker 3: Houston to me has played the most consistent football out

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Speaker 2: I do you know?

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Speaker 3: Again, Kansas City's offense is two inconsistent.

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Speaker 3: Can't do anything against Houston. Houston's defense is a Super

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Speaker 2: And it's a Kansas City defense.

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Speaker 3: It's not as special, But yeah, Houston is the team

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Speaker 1: Bears, Packers, Lions, the team Chris Sims trusts the most

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Speaker 1: No, I just I find it crazy that the Bears

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Speaker 2: I just think they're the hot team.

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Speaker 3: And I think it could be a Caleb Williams passing

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Speaker 1: It's called the Floaty the Floating and Davis Mills kept

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Speaker 3: I actually do like that. It's actually like one of

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Speaker 3: the ideas you've ever had there, Yes, right, because I

441
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Speaker 3: feel like what one this year? Wait there they are

442
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Speaker 3: going like Alignment of the Year, right, which I was like, yeah,

443
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Speaker 3: that's that's good. They need to give Lineman awards I mean,

444
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Speaker 3: they're a special part of the game, as we know.

445
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Speaker 3: And then you know, that's a good one too, because

446
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Speaker 3: I feel like every year there's probably three or four

447
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Speaker 3: backup quarterbacks that you go, gosh, thank god they had

448
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Speaker 3: that guy and their team didn't fall through, you know,

449
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Speaker 3: go through the toilet, right, So that's that's I think

450
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Speaker 3: there's something to it. And you're right, he'd probably be

451
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Speaker 3: the one in the leader house, right that you'd go, Yeah,

452
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Speaker 3: he deserves the floaty even though that's a little back

453
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Speaker 3: Jones name. I like the idea Jonte there with it exactly.

454
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Speaker 3: But that's why it deserves to be maybe be an award.

455
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Speaker 3: We're talking about two teams that we go, could they

456
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Speaker 3: win a few games in the playoffs, could they be

457
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Speaker 3: in the NFC or ANFC championship game? And would they

458
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Speaker 3: have been there if it went for their backup quarteracks? No,

459
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I hear you, Mike. Yeah, that's a good

460
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Speaker 3: call too, there, Sims.

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Speaker 4: It's a good thing. You like it because we'd like

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Speaker 4: for you to be the presenter this week on NBC

463
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Speaker 4: and present the awards to do this, right.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah, A good board. I mean, can you make the

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Speaker 2: name better?

466
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Speaker 3: A floaty is like just sounds weird, and I think

467
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Speaker 3: there's too many things that people could go What what

468
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Speaker 3: does that mean?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. So I don't know about that winner

470
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Speaker 2: of the Golden Clipboard. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Golden Clipboard. Taylor, be careful. He likes you,

472
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Speaker 1: but he'll turn on you in a fucking second.

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Speaker 3: Okay, exactly exactly. He's trying to get me fired here.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tampa Carolina the team you feel most confident

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Speaker 1: in saying, well, when the NFC South.

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Speaker 3: It's still Tampa, right, yeah, it is again. You know Carolina.

477
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Speaker 3: I respect what they're doing and like that, but like,

478
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Speaker 3: come on, if they played the Rams ten times, what

479
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Speaker 3: do you think is gonna happen?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Rams messed it up.

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Speaker 3: Carolina scored two touchdowns on fourth down from forty yards away, right,

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: That's a realistic.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they're gonna win every week by throwing fourth down

485
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Speaker 3: and five throws for touchdowns and you know they'll get

486
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Speaker 3: a pick six in an interception in the end zone

487
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Speaker 3: every week. I mean, the Rams never were stopped in

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Speaker 3: the football game. They went up and down the field

489
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Speaker 3: whatever they wanted to do, So you know, I don't

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Speaker 3: trust Carolina all the way. I respect what they're doing

491
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Speaker 3: that O lines, damn good Bright Young's getting better, But

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Speaker 3: I still trust Tampa more.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's gonna be rams here, ram Seattle, Niners,

494
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Speaker 1: NFC West.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's rams By. I'm man, and so were the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: I know, you know I put the Niners third in

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Speaker 3: that group. I'll just say that I would. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's hard to say. And you know is Shanahan and

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Speaker 3: Salad are equalizers, especially when it comes to coaching and

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Speaker 3: all that.

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Speaker 2: But but I put those two up there with with

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Speaker 2: McDaniels and Rabel.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, I would, yes, right, one hundred, they're they're real,

504
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Speaker 3: and Rabel and Shanahana McVeigh to me are still game

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Speaker 3: managers too. Right, there's not many game managers left in

506
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Speaker 3: football anymore because there.

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Speaker 2: There's no there's no go warrant. Yeah, go for it.

508
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Speaker 2: You're not managing shit, Just go for it.

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Speaker 3: We're aggressive, like, oh okay, that's hard. They're paying you

510
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Speaker 3: fifteen million a year to just go for it. That's awesome, man,

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Speaker 3: d Where do the fuck can I sign up for

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Speaker 3: that job? So there's very few coaches that are really

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Speaker 3: managing the game. I would say those are some of them.

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlins still does even though I'm just not good enough, right.

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Speaker 3: I think Andy Reid does a pretty good job of

516
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518
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Speaker 4: Sims JJ McCarthy returns this week from Concussion Protocol. But

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Speaker 4: I'm curious your thoughts. What did the Vikings think was

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Speaker 4: going to happen? Starting Max Brosmer on the road in

554
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Speaker 4: Seattle against that defense?

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Speaker 3: Right it is, well, it's like it is is a

556
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Speaker 3: tough one too. And you know, if you they kind

557
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Speaker 3: of hung in there until he went full tropic thunder

558
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Speaker 3: and decided to just throw a ball over his head and.

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Speaker 2: He was putting a bad spot.

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Speaker 3: Is that incredible? I mean that was incredible. That was like,

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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, right, but that would.

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Speaker 1: Be me on every play, I sit there and criticize

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Speaker 1: it for doing that.

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Speaker 2: While that would be you'd be running behind the raft.

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Speaker 2: Blow it, blow it, Gerence. I'm down. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: it's de Marcus Lawrence. I'm definitely down. No non fetal position.

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Speaker 2: I'm down. Blow it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here you go, you can have it. It feels

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Speaker 3: like that at quarterback sometimes. Let me just tell you,

570
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Speaker 3: especially for sure it being protected. But but uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a tough spot, as you know, against that defense

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Speaker 3: in that stadium.

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Speaker 2: That's that's hard it is.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, this is where sometimes, like I

575
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Speaker 3: think the NFL puts too much stock into stuff like

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Speaker 3: this at times, a little too much where they.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this guy, look, he's good in the meeting room.

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Speaker 3: He ran an offense in college and do that, and

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Speaker 3: I'm just a little bit more of like, no, I'd

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Speaker 3: rather have the guy that had talent and maybe didn't

581
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Speaker 3: run an offense all that perfectly, but we can. As

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Speaker 3: long as you got some brains, we can coach them

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Speaker 3: up and do that and we'll have something there.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I think there's too many teams that have second and

586
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Speaker 3: third stringers who are like he gets all the answers

587
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Speaker 3: right in the meeting room, and then it's like, yeah,

588
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Speaker 3: but when you get on the field, you gotta have

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Speaker 3: some fucking talent and you don't have that. I don't

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Speaker 3: give a shit how good you are in the meeting room.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like there's some second and third stringers

592
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Speaker 3: out there that are kept by teams just because of that.

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Speaker 3: And I am more of like, I'd rather have a

594
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Speaker 3: guy like Malik Willis right where I'd go.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was a little raw in college, but

596
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Speaker 2: we met with him.

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Speaker 3: He's got some brains and whoa, his skills are incredible

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Speaker 3: and now we've taught him how to play a little

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Speaker 3: bit and you could see when he comes in the game,

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Speaker 3: it's like, holy crap, maybe he is a starting quarterback. Right,

601
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Speaker 3: that's the guys year. I mean, you're right, you're right.

602
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Speaker 3: You know he's had some moments this year too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Steelers Ravens Bengals. He's gonna tear my head off

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Speaker 1: for including the Bengals AFC North.

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Speaker 2: He most confident winning the AFC North.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Ravens here. But but yeah,

607
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Speaker 3: this is like, this is dysfunction going with that. I

608
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Speaker 3: just yeah, the Ravens. The defense is okay. The offense

609
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Speaker 3: has really been the issue that you saw it last week.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're not the same. Lamar's not been playing great.

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Speaker 3: He's definitely been missing some throws and making some you know,

612
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Speaker 3: bad decisions or not maybe maybe getting off people too quickly.

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Speaker 3: He's definitely not making as many plays with his legs

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Speaker 3: and scrambling or running. It's not he's not as fast

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Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, definitely not. I watched on film. I

616
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Speaker 3: watched the last four games on Monday because I was like,

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Speaker 3: because my bosses were a little bit like, what's going

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Speaker 3: on with the Ravens, Like why don't you take a

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Speaker 3: deeper look for that for the podcast? So I did,

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Speaker 3: and yes, he's a little off, which happens when you

621
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Speaker 3: miss a few weeks in the NFL. You get back

622
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Speaker 3: and you feel like, man, I'm not in rhythm and

623
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Speaker 3: everybody else is kind of hitting on all cylinders, right,

624
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Speaker 3: so that I've been there in that, but I don't

625
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Speaker 3: think his athleticism looks the same. And you can't take

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Speaker 3: for granted what is athleticism does for their football team

627
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Speaker 3: at times. Right where we go, oh it's you know,

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Speaker 3: Oh he got around the corner. Oh it went for thirty.

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Speaker 3: So it's a first down right now. It's like, Oh,

630
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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get around the car.

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Speaker 2: Oh he didn't.

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Speaker 3: It's second and eight. It's second and eight. And that

633
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Speaker 3: that's changed it a little bit. His throwings a little off.

634
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Speaker 3: But I'm still gonna go with the raven It's just

635
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: because in the Steelers no way in any capacity, and

636
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: the Bengals is just too little, too late.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are minus five and a half on FanDuel

638
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: right now against the Steelers this week, So you like.

639
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Speaker 2: The Ravens in that game to win and cover. I

640
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: like the Ravens.

641
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: I thought about taking them as a best bet, but

642
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. I just don't trust

643
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: their offense enough to win by six or six and

644
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Speaker 3: a half or anything like that.

645
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Speaker 2: So yeah, but I did take the Ravens to win

646
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 2: the football game since we're on the Steelers.

647
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Speaker 1: What do you make of all the former players Roethlisberger,

648
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: James Harrison, who is a menacing man, and the fans

649
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: wanting change at the head coaching position in Pittsburgh.

650
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Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, I get it. I do

651
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Speaker 2: you know? Yeah? I think you know.

652
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 3: I feel a little bit like it's Andy Reid in

653
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Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Right.

655
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Speaker 3: It's just it's been a long time, it's been a

656
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: good run. I feel like it's ran its course, right,

657
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: And it's not all on Mike Tomlin too. There's just

658
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: been there's been they haven't been able to get the

659
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 3: quarterback situation right. Maybe he hasn't hired the right offensive coordinator,

660
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: so you can blame that stuff on him. But man,

661
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 3: you know, their their their front office and stuff. They've

662
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: missed on a lot of players. They've misevaluated their football team.

663
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: Right.

664
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: You brought Darius Slay and you paid them a good

665
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: good money. Not even on your team anymore. DK Metcalf

666
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: barely contributes, paying him like he's a superstar, right, Oh,

667
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey's being paid like he's a lockdown, shut down

668
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: island corner. Can't even play corner. We got to move

669
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: him to safety Cam Hayward. It's it's at the end.

670
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: I mean, they get pushed around inside every play. Patrick

671
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: Queen non existent, right, I mean, so all of it.

672
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: None of that. They've let Rogers hijack.

673
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: The offense because they didn't play the quarterback situation the

674
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: right way in the offseason to where they basically had

675
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: to go, Man, Aaron Rodgers, can you please come here?

676
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: Or we got nobody else please? So there's been organizational

677
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 3: failures all around. I want them to fire Mike Tomlin

678
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 3: so he can go coach the New York Giants.

679
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: That's what I want.

680
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, that would be wow. That's where you

681
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: have him going if if he leaves Pittsburgh.

682
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: Is the Giants need a proven commodity.

683
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: I feel like he's the guy that could jumpstart the organization,

684
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: give us a little juice. They've yet to go the

685
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: African American route at the head coach. It's time to

686
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: do it. He's the kind of guy. He can handle

687
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: the New York media. I think they'll love them. They

688
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: got some defensive ballers that he'll get the best out of. Yeah,

689
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: that's what I want to have.

690
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: Have a little bit of a relationship, right, and that

691
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: quarterback will listen to that coach, no doubt.

692
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely right. So yeah, I'm still a believer in

693
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: Mike Tooma. And like I've said, I mean, again, let's

694
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: just think about this this thing. They're team's not that good.

695
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: They're still six and six. They haven't really been that

696
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: special for a while. And this is where I'll go

697
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: back to what I said for a little bit ago.

698
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: He's been able to manage their team and still get

699
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: them the playoffs with teams where you know, the last

700
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: few years I've got Oh, I hope the Pittsburgh doesn't

701
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 3: make it to the playoffs because they're the most boring

702
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: watch in the world, and I don't want them to

703
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: come away with some upset wild card win so then

704
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: they can watch them in the divisional round and get

705
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: blown out, right, I hate that, right, But they've He's

706
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: been good enough to manage football games to get him

707
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: there in some years where I go that team really

708
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: shouldn't be in the playoffs. So yeah, I'm still a

709
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: believer in Mike Tomlin. Are you concerned about Justin Herbert

710
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: a little bit? Yes, I mean I'm not that I

711
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 3: think it's going to affect much. It just to me,

712
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: it's just missing days of practice and staying in rhythm

713
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 3: is what I worry about in this one. But do

714
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: I think they can beat Philadelphia? Of course I do.

715
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: In fact, I picked it to happen. I'm taking the Chargers.

716
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: I just don't.

717
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: I don't you know if as long as the Chargers

718
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: stop the run. And this is another one where you

719
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: almost have to get it out of your brain because

720
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: every week I go, well, I hope they don't get

721
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: steamrolled by the Philadelphia offense. But at some point you

722
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: got to come to Philadelphia's offense hasn't steamrolled anybody except

723
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: the Giants the second time they played them.

724
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen. So at some point I gotta just

725
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: go with what I'm seeing.

726
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: I don't think they'll be able to do that, and

727
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: I have a hard time believing they'll be able to

728
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: throw the ball on the charge.

729
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: The Chargers secondary and what they do.

730
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: Jesse Minner is one of those defensive geniuses that we

731
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: were talking about where I go. He's one that could

732
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: be up for a head coaching job and what he

733
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: does there, and I think that the Chargers will have

734
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: the right proach on offense. I'm gonna take them in

735
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: the upset win there at home.

736
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: All right, charges plus two and a half? Right now?

737
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: Uh one? Yeah? On Fandel quickly before we get to

738
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: the other games here.

739
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: How happy are you that your dad did not give

740
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: up his number for Abdull Carter.

741
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm I don't.

742
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: I'm not affected by this stuff with Abdull Carter, so

743
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: that doesn't.

744
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: Matter, right.

745
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: I'm happy that my dad didn't do it, just because

746
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: my dad, I think, you know, and my family didn't

747
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: want it to happen. And I think maybe in my

748
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: in my dad's heart of hearts, he probably had second

749
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: thoughts about giving it away as well. But I still

750
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: have faith in Abdul Carter. I'm not gonna you know,

751
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened the other day. I don't,

752
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: but he's still got incredible talent. They haven't been able

753
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: to play him exactly the way I think he's intended

754
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: to be played yet, right, And hey, he's at a

755
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: position where we're not looking for boy scouts, right. I mean,

756
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: if we went by that, then they would have kied

757
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: Lawrence Taylor off that team in our hurry. So he's

758
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: still young and from everything I've known. See, this is

759
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: what happens to everything I know. Is he was allowed

760
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: to do whatever he wanted at Penn State, which happens

761
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: in some college programs when you're a star. It's just like, oh,

762
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 3: he didn't show up for practice today, all right, he's

763
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: starting tomorrow, doesn't matter.

764
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: He's their best way, right, And that happens. And you know, it.

765
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: Takes some times to get these guys out of that

766
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: mold a little bit, to be like, nah, this ain't

767
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: Penn State and I'm not James Franklin anymore.

768
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: You you got to follow the rules here.

769
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: But if you're going to ask for a legend's number,

770
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: maybe just show up on time for a meeting.

771
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would help. That would help.

772
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: Every time I tuned into a Giant game, your dad

773
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: was playing in the first quarter unless he was hurt, you.

774
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: Know, right right, Yes, he didn't miss things yet. But

775
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: I mean that Giants game were real walking meme on

776
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 3: Monday night, or what I mean?

777
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: That was a walking meme.

778
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: Jackson Dark got hit so hard he bounced off the

779
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: turf and landed back on his feet, right, I mean,

780
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: that's what happened. He really went boom and back back

781
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: like it was incredible. I mean, Gunner Olshsky almost got

782
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: his head knocked off.

783
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: That's another meme.

784
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: The young way Ku kicking the ground four feet behind

785
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: the ball. I mean, what the fuck, holy crap, Abdul

786
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: Carter on the sidelines in the first quarter in a

787
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: game with that game on Thibodeau. I mean, it was unbelievable,

788
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: unfreaking believable.

789
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Yeah. In fact, right there on that field,

790
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: right there on.

791
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: That field, I took the biggest beating I took in

792
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: my NFL career two thousand and five. We went up

793
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: there in December, played the Patriots. We were good, and

794
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: and I took I mean a beating, a beating, a

795
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: beating so much that it's so crazy. Yeah, I mean

796
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: I was doing barrel roles in the air. Seymour right, h.

797
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: Yah.

798
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: He hit me, and then you know, he's one of

799
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: the biggest fucking humans you've ever seen in your life. Right, Like,

800
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 3: if you see Richard Temar, you're like, oh my gosh,

801
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: Now I get why you guys were Nobody could run

802
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: the ball. Their whole team was like that. They were gigantic.

803
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: He hit me a few times. I'm not joking.

804
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: He hit me.

805
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: I flew in the air and I barrel rolled on

806
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: the ground. I mean in the air. I was like

807
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: in the air doing summersaults. So I got hit so

808
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: hard in the pelvic bone in that football game by

809
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: Vince will Fork. Yes, that my junk was black and

810
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 3: purple for like a week and then it went into

811
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: Laker colors of purple and yellow.

812
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: So because I had a big BRUI Magic's junk and you.

813
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: Know, the blood goes down and all of a sudden,

814
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: I woke up one morning and I was like, oh

815
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: my gosh, I have a black and purple penis What

816
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: the hell happened here?

817
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: Well, it's Vegas or football. Put it on the pole.

818
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Is the most jarring thing you could see on your body.

819
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: Black and blue penis.

820
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: Key.

821
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: Please look up this hit Richard Seymour, No, this was

822
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: it was Vince. Yeah, it's Invinci, both of them. Yeah,

823
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: it's not that.

824
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: It's not a crazy hit, the the Vince will Fork one.

825
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: It's one of those where like I was throwing and

826
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: he just his face mask hit me right on that

827
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: pelvic bone above your your manhood, right one of those

828
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: sensitive spots there where there's not a lot of cushion

829
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: would hurt, you know.

830
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 2: And I I took a knee for a minute. And

831
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 2: it was the only game.

832
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: I was ever in that I was sore before the

833
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: game ended.

834
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: Wow, right, I never had been in a game.

835
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: And I was sitting there in the silence in the

836
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: fourth quarter and I was going, oh wow, I can

837
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: feel my body's already hurting from some of the hits

838
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: I took in the first and second quarter.

839
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 4: Right, looks like you guys lost that one twenty eight nothing. Yeah,

840
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 4: it's a misleading score. He doesn't, you know it's it was.

841
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 4: It was a missing And like I said, I took

842
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 4: a beating. We got a little unlucky. We we drove

843
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: the ball in.

844
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 3: Fringefield goal Terry a few times, and then we had

845
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: some bad things happened. We were only down seven to

846
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: nothing late in the second quarter, and I called an

847
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: audible that we were hoping they were going to get

848
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: in the whole game, and they finally got into it,

849
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: and it was like, oh my gosh, we got him,

850
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: and we were I was gonna have Michael Pittman, right,

851
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: Michael Pittman Junior's dad running up the seam, and I'm

852
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: telling you, he's uncovered, and our right tackle messed up

853
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: the check and he didn't block William McGinnis and he

854
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: hit me as I was throwing stripsack fumble short field

855
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: to Brady. Guess what Brady did, touchdown and we went

856
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: in fourteen nothing and a half and the game was

857
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: never the same from there, right, damn Brady?

858
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Dad? He tell me, like, what was your reaction?

859
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm so fixated on this.

860
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Look down the first time and you noticed that your

861
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: your penis was black and blue?

862
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I think I would like I'm in a Freddy

863
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: Krueger movie.

864
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: I think I ran in and showed my wife. I

865
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: was like, look at dann Yo, look at this. I

866
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 3: was like, look at this my bruise that I had

867
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: above my pelvis.

868
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: I was like, look, I was like, my balls are purple, right,

869
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it was. It was. It was pretty

870
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: funny actually for a few weeks there.

871
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: I'll bet when she asked you who did that to you?

872
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: She wasn't expecting Vince will Fort.

873
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00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,640
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00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: Thursday night, but just quickly to college questions. Notre Dame Miami. Yeah,

924
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: Miami's got a good argument.

925
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: They beat him head to head.

926
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: If it comes down to those two teams, who has

927
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: the better argument, it's I.

928
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: Don't think I don't think it's cool. I think it's

929
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

930
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: Right, Well, what first off, I put a little like

931
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: first game of the year with a freshman quarterback and

932
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: they barely lose in your environment. First off, I get that,

933
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: but it's about right now. And Notre Dame, if you

934
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: look at their defense is really good. And I think

935
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: Notre Dame has the best offense in full college football.

936
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: Notre Dame can do whatever it wants. You know, I

937
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: challenged people to didn't like Notre Dame throws the ball

938
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: on everybody?

939
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 2: Everybody?

940
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah, they lost to They had the hardest

941
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: first two games, and.

942
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: All in Miami by a total of four points.

943
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 3: Chris and a miracle touchdown pass by Texas and again

944
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: with a guy making his first start or second start, right, So,

945
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: so I guess I put a little stock into that.

946
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: And you know, also, I'm about what I see right now.

947
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: It's not about what it looked like in September or

948
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: anything like that. Notre Dame has, if not the best

949
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: running in football, it's top two or three. And Jeremiah

950
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: Loves the best offensive weapon in college football. And you

951
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: know who the second best running back in football is,

952
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: Jadarian Price. They have the two best running backs in

953
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 3: college football.

954
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: They will both.

955
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love's gonna go in the top twenty. Jadarian Price

956
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: will go in the top thirty five. He might go

957
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: in the first round. He's that good. They're one of

958
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: the greatest duos in the backfield in the history of

959
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: college football. So yeah, and then their defense is a

960
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 3: little young, but they have a shutdown secondary that became

961
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: healthy about five or six weeks ago. And yeah, I

962
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: think Notre Dame, no doubt should be in it. I'm

963
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: not saying Miami shouldn't be in it. I'm for that too. Yeah,

964
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: but if you made me pick, I'm gonna take Notre Dame. No.

965
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: So the problem is is most college football fans think

966
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: that Miami Notre Dame, if they get to the playoff,

967
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: they can actually go on a run and win the

968
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: national championship. Erry few think that about Old Miss in Texas,

969
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: A and M And that's a problem.

970
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: Chris. You know, well yeah, own Miss again.

971
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 3: College football has issues and this is fucked up that

972
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin can leave and leave his team. Like to me,

973
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: it's almost like, you know, Florida State, you lost your

974
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: starting quarterback. Well, yeah, we're not going to evaluate your

975
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: team the same way anymore, right, so you're not going

976
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: to make the call. If I'm the committee, I'd go, well, wait,

977
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: the bread and butter.

978
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: Of their team is the guy that just left. They

979
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: should be knocked down.

980
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Right, NCAA, start putting some rules in, start

981
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: doing something other than filling your own pockets. The NCAA committee,

982
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: that's all they're worried about. How can we get more

983
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: money in our pocket? That's all it is. It's such

984
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: a bullshit organization.

985
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm starting this out or in college football as well, Mikey,

986
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: do you have that stat from before about how much

987
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: money Penn State has made other coaches?

988
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 4: So I have it it's Penn State's coaching search has

989
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: netted other coaches and estimated three hundred and seventy million

990
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 4: in extension money.

991
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: It's insane.

992
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: Let alone, all the guys that we know are just

993
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: fired in their money and they're getting anyways. Yeah, I mean,

994
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: let's not forget there's you know, the Brian Kelly's and

995
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: all these other guys that are being paid huge money

996
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: still and they're not doing anything.

997
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, it's crazy. Yea.

998
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, your original question. Sorry that I ranted there.

999
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: That's okay, we loved it.

1000
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm still a believer in Texas A

1001
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: and M. I am them too. I am Texas. A

1002
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: and M's got big time talent. I think they got

1003
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: a little bit of like you know, hey, just the year,

1004
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: the accumulation of going undefeated, all these tough games, everything

1005
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: that way Texas had to win the game. I think

1006
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 3: it all kind of came to a pinnacle there and

1007
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: Texas played one of their best games of the year,

1008
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: and A and M was a little sloppy, But you know,

1009
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: there was one other thing I was going to look up.

1010
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: You talked about old miss and who else? Who is

1011
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: the other team? Miss Texas A and M. Yeah, yeah, but.

1012
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: I believe in Texas. But old Miss, I question, now,

1013
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 3: I do a little bit. You took away the guy

1014
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: that game plans for them and does a lot.

1015
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: Of good stuff.

1016
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: Right, I should have left Texas A and M out

1017
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: because I do believe they can actually win a national championship.

1018
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: Oklahoma maybe, yeah, maybe Oklahoma.

1019
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: Oklahoma is yet they're Olahoma's defense is national championship caliber.

1020
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 3: It's the offense that just you know, it's hard to watch, right,

1021
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: it feels like, hey, it's it's a pretty open year.

1022
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: Yes, Ohio State's the best team.

1023
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: Excuse me, there's no question about that, but not by

1024
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: so much that I don't think they could be upset

1025
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: or by somebody here, you know, in the college football playoff.

1026
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: Real quick here and we'll get you out of here.

1027
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: The games, some big games this weekend. We'll finish off

1028
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: with Thursday night, Indianapolis at Jacksonville, a big game obviously

1029
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: in that division.

1030
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: The Colts minus one and.

1031
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: A half right now on Fandel, Yeah, I mean it's

1032
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: a tough one. Jacksonville is what not lost to the

1033
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: Colts at home in like twelve years? Right? The Jags

1034
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: d has been playing really good lately. Like they've been

1035
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: a defense that's been good throughout the year, but they

1036
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: let up a lot of big plays, but they cause turnovers.

1037
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: That's kind of stopped the last five or six weeks.

1038
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: They become like tough to move the ball on. They

1039
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: don't they're not too aggressive. I think that was their

1040
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: problem early on in the year, and we're seeing Trevor

1041
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 3: start to be a little more consistent on a regular basis.

1042
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: I think the Colts with Daniel Jones injury and him

1043
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: not being able to scramble and run on some read

1044
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 3: options and RPOs and stuff like that, I think that's

1045
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 3: affected them right. They've been unable to get the ball

1046
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 3: down the field in the pass game a whole lot.

1047
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: The run games hurt. They're not gonna run against Jacksonville.

1048
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: I took Jacksonville here. Man, it's a close one. I'm

1049
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 3: gonna go Jaguars twenty four to twenty.

1050
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Buffalo minus five and a half. They're at home,

1051
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: they're taking on the Bengals. Big game for the Bengals,

1052
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: it is.

1053
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna it's a tough matchup for the Bills,

1054
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: actually is it is. But I'm gonna go with the Bills,

1055
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: still being at home, and just the fact that it's

1056
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: Burrows only his second game back. I don't think he's

1057
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: ready to win a shootout here yet. But this is

1058
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: one where right they're gonna be worried, especially if t

1059
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: Higgins healthy. This is where McDermott wants to play all

1060
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: pass defense, and this is why they've had problems against

1061
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: the Bengals, because one, I can't play man against those

1062
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: two guys, and then Joe's too good at working the

1063
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: system if you play zone, and he's one of the

1064
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: best zone quarterbacks I've ever seen to manipulate people and

1065
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: do that. That's put Buffalo in a buying the last

1066
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: two times they played them, and then because of that,

1067
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: Bengals have been able to run the ball. But I

1068
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 3: just feel like, yeah, Burrow only being the second game back,

1069
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: and I still don't trust that Bengals defense.

1070
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Bills. Twenty eight, twenty four.

1071
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: It's such a great weekend. I love this game. Packers

1072
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: minus six and a half. They're taking on the Bears

1073
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: six and a half on fan duel. Right now, we

1074
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: have to start taking the Bears more seriously.

1075
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: I'm going with the Bears.

1076
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: Like I told you before, one, Devonte Wyatt being out

1077
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: for the year for the Packers, that hurts them for sure. Right,

1078
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: the Bears have been able to run the ball on

1079
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: just about anyone that's been a constant. Now, I don't

1080
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: think they're gonna be able to just do it all

1081
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: day long against the Green Bay Packers. And that's where

1082
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play a little bit of the I think

1083
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 3: the Bears pass game will be better this week. That's

1084
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: one of the weaknesses of the of the Packers is

1085
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: their corner play.

1086
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna look at that there, and.

1087
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I trust the Bears defense in the way it's

1088
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 3: played lately, and especially with what I've told you at

1089
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: Green Bay's offense is two big player liant, one on

1090
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 3: one coverage reliant, and I don't expect that to happen

1091
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 3: a whole lot in this one.

1092
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: All Right, your game quickly, Sunday night football. Great game,

1093
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Texans, both teams needed. Kansas City is what

1094
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: is Kansas City Taylor.

1095
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: Minus three and a half? Minus three and a half

1096
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: on fandals or are about that?

1097
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going Texans here. I am, Well, you know one.

1098
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: I don't really The Kansas City offense is two all

1099
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: over the place.

1100
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: You know.

1101
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: I think the Texas defense is the best in football.

1102
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 3: It's too special. Josh Simmons, the left tackles missing for

1103
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. That's a horrible thing to happen with this group. Texans,

1104
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: I think are gonna take it personal a little bit.

1105
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: And how they lost they lost the playoffs last year.

1106
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: They thought they got kind of screwed over by some

1107
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: bad calls, right. I think they realize what they're up against.

1108
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: I think their defense is going to slow down Mahomes

1109
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: and company. And I, like I told you, I think

1110
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: their offense has hit a point here where it's.

1111
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: Good enough to put enough points.

1112
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 3: On the board to help the defense out. And this

1113
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: is a Chiefs defense that you know is good but

1114
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: not special like we've seen in years past. I think

1115
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 3: Houston's got to going a little bit. I took Houston

1116
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty.

1117
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: All right, final game, mister Thursday Night. He's eleven and

1118
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: one on isolated Thursday night games.

1119
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: Here we go. Okay, this is a big one.

1120
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: Dallas, who I totally agree with Taylor has become somehow

1121
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: a lovable underdog that I can get behind. They're taking

1122
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: on the Detroit Lions. Lions are favorite by three points.

1123
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 2: Making this a best bet.

1124
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 3: Right, so you guys know, if you want to know

1125
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: my best bet, I chickened out here a little bit,

1126
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: so I didn't I'm gonna pick the Cowboys to win

1127
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 3: the game. But if you want to know my best bets,

1128
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: I did take Houston as a best bet, as a

1129
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: three and a half point underdog. I feel like if

1130
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: they lose, they're only to lose by a field goal,

1131
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: but I expect them to win. I took Seattle minus

1132
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 3: seven over Atlanta, right. I feel like I take Seattle

1133
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: almost every week. But yeah, I think that's too low.

1134
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: I think they'll they'll control Atlanta in all phases.

1135
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: Of the game, and then they teams they do yeah.

1136
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 3: Exactly right, and then the six and a half points

1137
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: the Bears are getting is just too much for me.

1138
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm picking them to win, but I think

1139
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 3: if they lose, they're not gonna lose by more than

1140
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: six and a half.

1141
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: So those are the ones I took.

1142
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: I thought about the Ravens, but I don't trust the

1143
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: Ravens offense. I thought about the Browns Titans under. But

1144
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: I don't like betting on teams that are just not

1145
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 3: reliable all the time.

1146
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: Right.

1147
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 3: The Cowboys is the other one I thought about because

1148
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: the Cowboys defense has been playing pretty good. I don't

1149
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: think we're gonna have a healthy Ama ross Aint Brown.

1150
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 3: If he does play, it's not gonna be the same guy,

1151
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: So that hurts.

1152
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: Right.

1153
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 3: The Lions offense certainly not as dangerous as we talked

1154
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 3: about without Ben Johnson and the Cowboys one they can

1155
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: block up front and give Dak time. The Lions don't

1156
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: have a great pass rush unless they blitz, and you

1157
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: gulet scary, and you know the Lions like to play

1158
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: Manda Man and this is that that's scary against the Cowboys.

1159
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: I took the Cowboys thirty seven to twenty eight. Right,

1160
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 3: that might be a little much, But I think the

1161
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: Cowboys win this tonight.

1162
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: I like it.

1163
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: And what I love about this season is we're what

1164
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: we're like two months away from being in San Francisco

1165
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl, and no one has any idea

1166
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: what teams are going to be there, and.

1167
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: It's about as wide open as I can remember.

1168
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: Right at this time last year, I.

1169
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: Was going the Eagles are going to the Super Bowl,

1170
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: right and I was specifically going, the Eagles are the

1171
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: best team in the sport. I don't care what it

1172
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: looks like. It's a little ugly, it's the best. I

1173
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: can't hang my hat. The Rams are still the team

1174
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: that I would say has been consistently the best the

1175
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: whole year. But yeah, it's a little different, you know,

1176
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: and both conferences here to kind of go. Yeah, there's

1177
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: no like clear one or two front runners as we

1178
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 3: stand here right now.

1179
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Speaker 1: It's awesome PFT with my Florio everyday Peacock on Button

1180
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: podcasts as well Football Night in America.

1181
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: They have the Chiefs and.

1182
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: Textans coming up, Big game this Sunday night, Chris Sims,

1183
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: mister Thursday Night Black and Blue, Penis.

1184
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: We appreciate, no problem. I can't believe it took us

1185
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 2: five years to get to that story.

1186
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: I know.

1187
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: Actually it was shocking that we never had talked about

1188
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: that before. But there you go. There's Philly is gonna

1189
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: be so upset. See, you guys always fight