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Speaker 2: Is a lot of playing time a bad sign? We'll

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Speaker 2: off with the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson got a lot of playing time almost the

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Speaker 2: entire first half.

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Speaker 3: And uh it was a little rocky, little rocky there.

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Speaker 2: Got hit five times, but a touchdown throw to Jerry

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Speaker 2: Judy before the starters were put on ice, if you will.

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Speaker 2: But what do you think about that? Is that a

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Speaker 2: good or bad sign?

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Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton, the head coach, is like, all right, we

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Speaker 2: gotta get in the end zone here. Let's let's give

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Speaker 2: it another drive. Let's give it one more drive here

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Speaker 2: against the Arizona Cardinals, and they finally got there.

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Speaker 4: Everything you do as a football team is in service

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Speaker 4: of your starting quarterback if you have a great one,

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Speaker 4: you know, and that's something that my offensive line coach

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Speaker 4: Dante scarnekia Is said to me, or said to us

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Speaker 4: the offensive line group when we were talking about Tom Brady,

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Speaker 4: he said, everything we do as a football team is

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Speaker 4: in service of number twelve. We just got to find

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Speaker 4: a way to protect him. We got to find a

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Speaker 4: way to get open for him. If you're a receiver,

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Speaker 4: we got to find a way to run the football effectively.

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Speaker 4: So the defense has to play on his for him.

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Speaker 4: You know, the defense has to go out there and

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Speaker 4: get the ball back for him because this game is

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Speaker 4: about the quarterback. So when Sean Payton says, hey, we

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Speaker 4: need fifteen to eighteen snaps as an offense, is he saying,

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Speaker 4: you know, the starters have to be out there because

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Speaker 4: the left guard needs more work.

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Speaker 3: No, it's because of number three. It's because of Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Everything they do is in service of number three. So

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Speaker 4: when the defense got the ball back on that series

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Speaker 4: that interception, well number three goes out there with the

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Speaker 4: offense and they're gonna get a little bit more work.

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Speaker 3: Well guess what that drive stall?

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Speaker 4: You know, So instead of instead of that that being

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Speaker 4: the last outing for the offense, they're gonna go out

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Speaker 4: there for one more ride, and fortunately for the Denver Broncos,

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Speaker 4: they were able to put it in the zone. It

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Speaker 4: looks like early on and again things will change, or

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Speaker 4: maybe they won't. It looks like Jerry Judy is becoming

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Speaker 4: a favorite target. Found him on that found him on

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Speaker 4: that Blitz pick up, going forth on fourth down and

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Speaker 4: scoring on whatever it was, like a twenty yard throw.

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Speaker 3: There were some positive things.

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Speaker 4: There were some negative things too, But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: the reason why the starters played as long as they

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Speaker 4: did was because of Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 3: I can promise you that, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm fine with with the amount of time that they

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Speaker 5: that they played. I I think when you preseason is

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Speaker 5: tough for me.

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Speaker 1: Now from the fan perspective, I love it.

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Speaker 5: I was lapping it up with a ladle last week

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Speaker 5: when Rogers was in the Hall of Fame game and

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Speaker 5: he called that the play to, you know, to Zach

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Speaker 5: Wilson and they went up to. None of that matters

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Speaker 5: in the grand scheme of the Jets season, But I

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Speaker 5: love it. I think it's as a fan, it's it's

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Speaker 5: a great It's it's one of my favorite times of

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Speaker 5: the year. And and all the little moments you see

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Speaker 5: these guys on the field, get him on the field

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Speaker 5: as much as possible. I think it's fantastic. Obviously, it

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Speaker 5: doesn't matter in the regular season. It's a completely different season.

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Speaker 5: But from like an analyst perspective, I almost don't want

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Speaker 5: to watch because I don't want to be influenced by

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Speaker 5: what I see now in a few weeks when they

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Speaker 5: strap it up for real. It's a it's a it's

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Speaker 5: a dilemma because a lot of times coaches will put

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Speaker 5: things on tape that they deliberately are not going to do.

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Speaker 5: They're doing things just for practice, per I remember last

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Speaker 5: year John Harbrough said we're gonna run the ball like

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Speaker 5: twenty straight times because we need to work on this play.

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Speaker 5: So it's hard for me to like watch the preseason

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Speaker 5: games and get jazzed up about carrying any of that

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Speaker 1: The regular season.

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Speaker 5: I think the Broncos are a bit of an exception

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Speaker 5: last year and how Russell Wilson looked last year. I'll

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Speaker 5: be honest, I thought he looked okay last night, and

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Speaker 5: I don't want to take too much from it, but

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Speaker 5: I think he looked a little more confident. I think

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Speaker 5: he looked a little more composed. I think he looked

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Speaker 5: a little more comfortable in what Sean Payton was trying

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Speaker 5: to do. And they had one moment right was a

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Speaker 5: fourth down blitz pick up and Judy you know, nice

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Speaker 5: release boom inside slant, wide open touchdown. I think, if

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Speaker 5: anything else, the time on the field maybe a little

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Speaker 5: bit longer than most first preseason games just for that

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Speaker 5: one moment I think was worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, feel good moment for them especially, and that

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Speaker 2: was right after a play where Judy just dropped a

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Speaker 2: wide open pass, and so I can understand why they

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Speaker 2: stayed in there for four series. It to me is

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Speaker 2: just telling where you know, Sean Payton coming in as

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Speaker 2: the new head coach, where the Broncos offense is, Where

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Speaker 2: is the rhythm, you know, where is the momentum, like

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Speaker 2: Sean Baton wants to get that on track before these

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Speaker 2: games count for real, which I understand. That would just

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Speaker 2: be my takeaway. If you say preseason opener Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 2: this isn't some rookie quarterback. This isn't Jordan Love who's

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Speaker 2: only thrown eighty three passes in his NFL career.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: This is Russell Wilson and the guy had four series.

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Speaker 2: So it's telling where the Broncos offense is right now.

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Speaker 2: And it also it shows you it's actions that support words.

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Speaker 2: When Sean Bayton did the USA Today interview with Jarrett

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Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett, you saw the actions last night that supported

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Speaker 2: those words of there's a lot to iron out here.

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Speaker 2: That was, you know, beyond rocky last season. So you're

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Speaker 2: seeing that into action with as much playing time as

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Speaker 2: the starters got last night. For the Broncos.

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Speaker 4: As a head coach, it's often that you view the

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Speaker 4: media as an enemy. Yeah, but Sean Payton, having worked

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Speaker 4: for the enemy, has a little bit of a leg

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Speaker 4: up on what the narratives are going to be because

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Speaker 4: he saw how the sausage is made. He understands now

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Speaker 4: what is going to be newsworthy on the other side

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Speaker 4: of a game weekend. And he knew that if they

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Speaker 4: if they went out there and scored.

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Speaker 3: That would have been the last drive.

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Speaker 4: Of the game for the starting offense, because you finish

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Speaker 4: on a high note. Everybody walks off the field feeling confident.

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Speaker 4: You saw some time, you saw some action, you got

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Speaker 4: the ball in the end zone.

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Speaker 3: That fourth drive, that fourth series.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he was on the sideline thinking like, we

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Speaker 4: gotta call whatever the best stuff we have installed right now,

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Speaker 4: and we got to make sure that we produce on

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Speaker 4: this drive. Otherwise the narrative is going to be Russell

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Speaker 4: Wilson's still struggling.

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Speaker 3: That is what the narrative is gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Instead, we wake up this morning and we're talking about

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Speaker 4: this on a glorious you know, NFL Saturday preseason morning, saying.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Russell Wilson looked okay, he looked okay,

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Speaker 3: But had.

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Speaker 4: He only played three series, we would have been saying,

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Speaker 4: who Denver still's got a long way to go. I mean, so,

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Speaker 4: I really do think that different from years past. There's

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Speaker 4: a real sensitivity from Sean Payton about what the media

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Speaker 3: Say, how how this reaction is going to look.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's actually a good thing for Russell

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Speaker 4: Wilson because Nathaniel Hackett. For all the things you could

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Speaker 4: and you could say a lot, it was not a

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Speaker 4: good season. He also didn't do a good job of

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Speaker 4: damage control. He wasn't good for Russell Wilson and this

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Speaker 4: Denver team last year. Psychologically, he could never get control

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Speaker 4: of the narrative. I think part of the reason why

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson played as much is to make sure that,

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Speaker 4: at least for now, the Broncos had control of the narrative.

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Speaker 5: Just for what it's worth, When Rich was saying a

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Speaker 5: beautiful NFL Saturday, I looked up at two weeks from today,

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Speaker 5: We're gonna be getting ready for Navy Notre daim in

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Speaker 5: about an hour and a half. I wanted to throw

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Speaker 5: that out there into the football stratosphere. As much as

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Speaker 5: I'm excited to talk about Russell Wilson's preseason debut.

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Speaker 2: Irish favored quite twenty.

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Speaker 5: By the way I spe speaking of that Broncos game

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Speaker 5: last night, you want to talk about spread drama. I

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Speaker 5: had Arizona plus six. It was ten to ten in

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Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. Denver got the ball back with five

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Speaker 5: I forget who the quarterback for the Broncos was on

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Speaker 5: the field, but it was David Blough for Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Denucci, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: Right, it was.

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Speaker 5: It Wasanucci and Denver slices and dices their way down

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Speaker 5: the field. They had a pass interference, they ran into

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Speaker 1: In the final ninety seconds because that's what you do.

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Speaker 5: And then I'm thinking to myself, I'm catching six with Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I'm down seven.

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Speaker 5: I've got David Blow ninety seconds in one time out,

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Speaker 5: no shot, Arizona scores here all the way down the

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Speaker 5: field and David Blow throws the pebble into the end

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Speaker 5: zone for the game, I guess it was. At the

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Speaker 5: time they were still down one. Then they went for

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Speaker 5: two and got it. Talk about spread drama in the preseason.

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Speaker 5: I love it. But back to Russ, I think I

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Speaker 5: think when you look at what he is, it kind

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Speaker 5: of reminds me this is gonna be a far fetched store.

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Speaker 5: You guys are gonna love it though. So I got

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Speaker 5: Jackpot a year ago, right, the first nine months or

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Speaker 5: so were great, and then he had like a little breakdown.

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Speaker 5: Remember he was misbehaving a little bit, and I had

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Speaker 5: to ratchet up the structure and the intensity of his

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Speaker 5: training a little bit more than I normally would do

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Speaker 5: because I was concerned that he was falling out of

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Speaker 5: line a little bit. A lot more create training every morning,

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Speaker 5: a lot more training sessions every day.

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Speaker 1: And Jackpot was.

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Speaker 5: Already he's already three years old, Like, he doesn't need

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Speaker 5: that in terms of being a puppy anymore, which is

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Speaker 5: like Russell Wilson, He's not a puppy anymore in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: But he fell out of line and he needed a

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Speaker 5: stronger hand in order to get him back into shape.

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Speaker 5: And obviously that's exactly what Sean Payton is doing here.

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Speaker 5: It is a tougher camp, I'm assuming than it was

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Speaker 5: last year. The rhetoric is probably a lot stronger. And

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Speaker 5: they did the extra they did. They went the extra

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Speaker 5: mile last night. They went longer than expected. You know

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Speaker 5: what was the scene in Miracle where Kurt Russell again

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Speaker 5: I think that's what Sean Payton's delivering. That's at a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's brutal.

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Speaker 4: I mean it matters for batters, It certainly does. I

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Speaker 4: the regular season. And then the postseason has a tempo

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Speaker 4: here as a champion for what Sean Payton did both

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Speaker 4: the commentary about Nathaniel Hackin Hackett and he broke the

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Speaker 4: the media. Sean Payton's right, Russell Wilson has never looked

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Speaker 4: you know, because a lot of other things. You know,

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Speaker 4: Rome is burning. You know, you're thinking to yourself, well, well, Russell,

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Speaker 4: he's a veteran. He should be able to take care

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Speaker 4: And Sean Payton, man, he's running, he's running a tighter ship.

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Speaker 4: He said, we're not going to do the hot dogs

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Speaker 2: a sterling preseason debut for CJ. Stroud, Texan's rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And look, fellas, I don't want to look at each

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Speaker 2: the Blitz. It's more so the formula. This is just

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Speaker 2: not a good formula for success. I keep going back

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Speaker 2: next year's draft playing with five first round wide receivers

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Speaker 2: That'd be five first round bigs that he'd laid alongside,

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Speaker 2: and that's not what the Texans have. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be culture shock this season, and I think

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Speaker 2: the preseason it was a bad sign of more bad

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean there are certain through lines from your experience

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Speaker 4: It absolutely could be one of those things that keeps

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Speaker 4: and when they face the Texas, you know he's gonna

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Speaker 4: just looks like if if you're gonna blitz them, he's

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Speaker 5: The macro view is it's four snap or four throws

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Speaker 1: Know, Bill Belichick's defense. What's the narrative today?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's because I think I think CJ gets

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Speaker 5: the short end of that narrative stick. At least that's

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Speaker 5: the way I view it from the outsider perspective and

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Speaker 5: looking at the media.

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Speaker 2: Well, first things first, I would have won my week

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Speaker 2: eighteen colts bets eye the most important thing.

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Speaker 1: That's totally the most important.

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Speaker 2: But you bring up a great point, Jared, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know how most people would look at it, but

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Speaker 2: the way I would look at it, I would feel

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Speaker 2: better with Bryce Young simply because if you look at

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young last year, he didn't have a who's Who's

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Speaker 2: supporting cast, he didn't have Marvin Harrison Junior in the

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Speaker 2: like his leading receiver was running back Jamiir Gibbs, and

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Speaker 2: Bryce was still effective, he still put up good numbers.

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Speaker 2: So I would feel better with Bryce going from what

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Speaker 2: Alabama had last year to what the Texans have right

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Speaker 2: here right now, I'd feel better with Bryce Young than

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Speaker 2: I do CJ. Stroud. So I would be a bit

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Speaker 2: more optimistic, But I don't know what the masses would

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Speaker 2: be saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it would be similar. I

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Speaker 4: think he would quite be as let's put it this way, CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud.

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Speaker 4: The reason why he's getting dragged or was during his

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Speaker 4: performance by you know, Ohio State fans or people who

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Speaker 4: knew him at Ohio State meaning new his game, or

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Speaker 4: new Texans fans of his is because what we saw

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Speaker 4: in college was very reminiscent of what happened in that

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Speaker 4: game when CJ. Stroud was under pressure at Ohio State,

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Speaker 4: which was rare, but when it happened, his accuracy plummeted

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Speaker 4: and he panicked a little bit. And that was something

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Speaker 4: on his draft reports. And that's something that offensive coordinators

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Speaker 4: and head coaches and general manager were all aware of

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Speaker 4: when he was going into this year's draft. But you

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Speaker 4: got to look at the whole body of work. You

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Speaker 4: gotta look at this guy in really tight, important games.

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Speaker 4: What's his makeup? You know, is he going to be

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Speaker 4: able to handle mentally the rigors of the NFL? And

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Speaker 4: I think he's going to, I really do. I think

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Speaker 4: I think he's got the right stuff.

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Speaker 3: But can't you can't tell that.

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Speaker 4: You can't tell that from week one of the preseason,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like it's gonna take a

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Speaker 4: little bit of time. And by the way, what I

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Speaker 4: mean by that is if there's stability around him, because

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Speaker 4: as much as it's important as having a talented quarterback,

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Speaker 4: you also need to build around him. The Texans are

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Speaker 4: nowhere near it. So we're not going to see any

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Speaker 4: of those things I just said, you know, the makeup

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Speaker 4: and all those You're not going to see it this year.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I would say, if we're being perfectly honest

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Speaker 4: with each other, Davis Mills is the better quarterback, right,

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Speaker 4: no doubt. Oh yeah, yeah, there's no doubt. But that

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean that Davis Mills has the type of potential

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Speaker 4: as an NFL starter that CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud does.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to take back anything I said about

496
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Speaker 4: this this quarterback room, the most potential goes to CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud moving forward. We'll see if that changes over the

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Speaker 4: course of the next two or three years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Rix, to your point is why I love when

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Speaker 5: you guys. You know, when we do the show, it's

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Speaker 5: it's hard to prep for the show because I never

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Speaker 5: know what you guys are gonna say, And then when

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Speaker 5: you say something and I look it up and I'm like, oh, wow,

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Speaker 5: that actually makes sense. The numbers on Stroud last year

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Speaker 5: kept clean compared to under pressure.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, yeah, wow, yeah, yeah, so I just pulled it up.

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Speaker 5: The yards per attempt was cut in half ten point

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Speaker 5: two kept clean, five point seven under pressure.

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Speaker 1: Here's the one that really gets me.

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Speaker 5: Adjusted accuracy percentage seventy seven percent when kept clean, forty

512
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Speaker 5: seven percent under pressure, huge drop off. Turnover worthy play

513
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Speaker 5: rate goes up almost threefold. I mean, it's it's about

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Speaker 5: a stark of a difference you will see with a

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Speaker 5: player of his caliber, because to me, the players of

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Speaker 5: his caliber are the ones that can overcome that.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why I'm a.

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Speaker 5: Little bit, eh, yeah, a little bit concerned there with

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Speaker 5: those numbers.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the funny thing, man is I just brought

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Speaker 2: up the receivers. I didn't talk about everything else around him,

522
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Speaker 2: like he had Baris Johnson Junior, who is just a

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Speaker 2: sixth overall pick.

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Speaker 5: But just to compare it to Bryce Young, Just to

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Speaker 5: compare it to Bryce Young, And this is why I

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Speaker 5: love these comparisons. Adjusted accuracy rate when kept clean eighty percent,

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Speaker 5: under pressure.

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Speaker 1: Sixty eight percent.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, like the gap there is just significantly smaller

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Speaker 5: right turnover where they play rate Obviously it increases, but

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Speaker 5: it's not nearly as high.

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Speaker 2: And you have the dial up speed with the S

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Speaker 2: two score of ye.

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Speaker 5: Well, he's the smartest player in college football from everyone

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Speaker 5: from everything I heard, like in the last like two

536
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Speaker 5: decades like since, like maybe Peyton Manning like the smartest player.

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Speaker 2: In college football. Who's that Bryce Price? I'm saying, CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud dial up speed.

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Speaker 5: Oh, yes, it's the opposite. It's the opposite with right,

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Speaker 5: this is this is in four G. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: like that motive in all you say.

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Speaker 3: Got flip bro, what's going on there? Moto? Yeah, CJ.

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Speaker 2: Hell moto.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: All right, We've got Isaac Lowenkron, the one and only

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Speaker 2: to spin us around the sporting landscape. I lo, what

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Speaker 2: is going on this morning?

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Speaker 8: But good morning, and we're spinning you around the globe

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Speaker 8: because we're starting with the quarterfinals of the Women's World Cup.

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Speaker 8: As host nation, Australia has advanced to the semi finals

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Speaker 8: with an epic penalty kick shootout victory over France. The

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Speaker 8: shootout went ten rounds twenty penalty kicks before Australia prevailed

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Speaker 8: seven to six. It was the longest penalty kick shootout

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Speaker 8: in World Cup history, men's or women's England then defeated

555
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Speaker 8: Columbia two to one to advance to the semi finals

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Speaker 8: in the NFL preseason on Friday night, at the Arizona

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Speaker 8: Cardinals defeat of the Denver Broncos eighteen to seventeen, Russell

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Speaker 8: Wilson completed seven of thirteen for ninety three yards and

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Speaker 8: a touchdown. Washington a seventeen to fifteen win at Cleveland.

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Speaker 8: Deshaun Watson played a series completed all three of his

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Speaker 8: passes for twelve yards. Another strong performance why rookie Dorian

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Speaker 8: Thompson Robinson. He completed nine of ten for one oh

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Speaker 8: two and a touchdown. Jordan Love completed seven of ten

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Speaker 8: for forty six yards at a touchdown in Green Bay's

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Speaker 8: thirty six to nineteen victory at Cincinnati. In Major League

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Speaker 8: Baseball on Friday night, the Seattle Mariners defeated the Baltimore

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Speaker 8: Orioles nine to two. The Mariners on an eight game

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Speaker 8: winning streak, the Los Angeles Dodgers on a six game

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Speaker 8: winning streak. They bested Colorado six to one to improve

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Speaker 8: to ten to one. In August, the Texas Rangers on

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Speaker 8: back to back home runs by Nathaniel Lowe and Mitch

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Speaker 8: Garver in the sixth inning one at San Francisco two

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Speaker 8: to one, and Xander Bogarts had four hits for the

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Speaker 8: Padres in their ten to five win at Arizona. The

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Speaker 8: Diamondbacks now on a nine game losing st Fellas, all yours,

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Speaker 8: thank you.

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Speaker 2: I lo it is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. I'm feeling a little bit festive this morning, fellas.

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Speaker 2: So I ate at a Mexican restaurant last night, so

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling bilingual, you know, So I thought we'd do

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Speaker 2: a little h know, dose or Trace? Okay, So I

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Speaker 2: was thinking about the rookie quarterbacks. The top three guys

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Speaker 2: right between Bryce Young and the Panthers, c J. Stroud

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Speaker 2: of the Texans, Anthony Richardson of the Colts. All three

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Speaker 2: are starting the preseason opener. We saw c J. Stroud

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Speaker 2: a couple of nights ago. We'll see Bryce Young and

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson. Who know, dose or trace? How many of

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Speaker 2: these guys are starting in week one? What do you

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Speaker 2: go with? Rich How many?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with dose?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say right now, Anthony Richardson and Bryce Young

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Speaker 4: are going to be starters. And I can Stroud getting

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Speaker 4: the sort of slow roll in allowing Davis Mills to handle.

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Speaker 3: Some of the.

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Speaker 4: Early season stuff, you know, where I think some of

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Speaker 4: the jitters that you saw that were available to be

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Speaker 4: viewed during that first outing, some of those may persist.

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Speaker 4: Some of them may just be Okay, that's the first

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Speaker 4: time he put on a Texans uniform and did anything

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Speaker 4: other than practice in it, you know, So that stuff

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Speaker 4: I'm not worried about. But the stuff we were just

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Speaker 4: talking about, like the under pressure stuff, the blitz recognition,

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Speaker 4: the happy feed in the pocket when you're under pressure,

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Speaker 4: like those are the sort of things you can work

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Speaker 4: on at practice. And if he doesn't have light years

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Speaker 4: of improvement, and this is going back to this time

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Speaker 4: during college, not just what we saw in week one

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Speaker 4: of the preseason, then I do honestly think it would

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Speaker 4: probably be best for him to sit behind a guy

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Speaker 4: who's a little bit more people, get a few more

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Speaker 4: reps at practice, let somebody else take the reps during

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Speaker 4: the game so he can catch up.

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Speaker 5: For the sake of argument, I'll say Trace, but I

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Speaker 5: reserve the right to change that opinion after watching CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud in his next preseason game.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I might change. I might change my two. I

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Speaker 5: think it's I mean, Bryce Young, I think is a lock.

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Speaker 5: Is as close to a lock as you're going to

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Speaker 5: get in anything in life that he's going on, barring injury,

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Speaker 5: of course, that he's going to start Game one of

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Speaker 5: the regular season. I don't think you draft the guy

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Speaker 5: first overall unless you want to start in Week one.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of comes with the territory. Richardson I think

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Speaker 5: has made from all accounts, again, I haven't watched a

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Speaker 5: whole lot of practice tape, but from all accounts, he

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Speaker 5: has kind of taken that job and run with it.

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Speaker 5: And I think I think I think the Texans want

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Speaker 5: Stroud to be the starter, but I also don't know

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Speaker 5: if he's ready, and he we didn't see enough in

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Speaker 5: week one of the preseason for me to make that distinction.

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Speaker 5: The next game I think will be very telling. In

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Speaker 5: my eyes, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it should be Uno. I think it should just

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Speaker 2: be Brice Rice, but it's I think at least going

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Speaker 2: to be Dose Yea. I have a hard time seeing

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Speaker 2: both the Texans and the Colts saying let's hold off.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what they should do because think about

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore, but think about this too, where if you

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Speaker 2: bring CJ. Stroud and Anthony Richardson along slowly, maybe it

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Speaker 2: get him a special package of plays and get him

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Speaker 2: on the field, get him a taste, especially Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 2: who has under four hundred passing attempts in college. I'll

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Speaker 2: just bring him along slowly, get him on the field

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Speaker 2: here and there in spurts, and if you lose games

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season, which the Texans and

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Speaker 2: Colts are very likely to do, I would rather then

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Speaker 2: the young quarterback comes in and it's like, Okay, let's

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Speaker 2: see what this guy can do. It's a different feeling.

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Speaker 2: It just lands differently. If you start these guys, say

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Speaker 2: in week seven, after they're you know, two to five

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Speaker 2: or something like that, it's just not the same thing.

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Speaker 2: And I think that helps them at least eludes some

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Speaker 2: of that over scrutiny at the beginning of your career.

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Speaker 2: I would bring him along a little bit slower, but

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Speaker 2: my money is on that not happening. It is Fox

656
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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. Here, We've got rich Ornberger, Penn State All American.

657
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Speaker 2: We've got Jarrett Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian no

658
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Speaker 2: coming up next. It doesn't feel good to get rejected,

659
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Speaker 2: but this scenario has to feel way worse than your

660
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Speaker 2: standard rejection. It is Fox Sports Saturday, here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We're coming to you from the tire

663
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Speaker 2: rack dot Com studios. You know, between you Rich and

664
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Speaker 2: you Jared, who's the bigger Blues Traveler fan. I'm not

665
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Speaker 2: sure Tale of the Tape that was a quick not me.

666
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Speaker 5: No, yeah, I mean it's a good song, but it's

667
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Speaker 5: not my favorite fan. I like John Popper think, uh,

668
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Speaker 5: I don't even know who the guy was singing it.

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Speaker 5: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Rich wins this round. He's not like me.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that guy was. Man.

672
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Speaker 4: I feel like, think about how talented a musician you

673
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Speaker 4: have to be to stick with the harmonica.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh fantastic? Oh yeah?

675
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Speaker 2: Or how limited otherwise to stick there's glass half.

676
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Speaker 4: Empty note and like, but I mean, just imagine how

677
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Speaker 4: many people along the path are going like, John, put

678
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Speaker 4: down the harmonica and finish your homework. John, we're going out. Na,

679
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay. I'm gonna stay. I'm gonna play the harmonica.

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Speaker 5: He had one of those little contraptions that like snaps

681
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Speaker 5: it to your.

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Speaker 1: Neck, right, like holds it on your neck. Yeah, put

683
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Speaker 1: it down.

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Speaker 4: It's just And by the way, that song where you're

685
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Speaker 4: listening to, if you listen to the lyrics of that song,

686
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Speaker 4: it's hysterical. He's actually talking to you about the psychology

687
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Speaker 4: of music, like what the music does to your brain.

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Speaker 3: He's like, and now we're heading to the bridge.

689
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously this song he's singing the bars live

690
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 5: on the air and telling us a dissertation on what

691
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Speaker 5: it means.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it sounded like me when you're like, nope,

693
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Speaker 2: I'm out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like these days i'm more of like

695
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 5: an eclectic music person, like a little more like trancy electronic.

696
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 5: And then also, let's be honest, t swift, I'm a

697
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 5: big swift. Ye you're sorry, not sorry. I'm learning how

698
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Speaker 5: to play some of our music on the piano. Actually,

699
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Speaker 5: I have to give you guys, are.

700
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Speaker 2: The game over here?

701
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Speaker 1: We're going piano. I've just broke those ivories, baby.

702
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Speaker 3: I'm playing a harmonica whatever I can. What do you know.

703
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Speaker 2: Let's shift over to rejection if you will here, how

704
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: about the A C C. So they took a vote

705
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: in terms of potentially adding cal and Stanford to the conference,

706
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: and four schools said no, we're not interested. Of those

707
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Speaker 2: four schools, it includes Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, and

708
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Speaker 2: North Carolina State. They are saying no to cal and Stanford.

709
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Speaker 2: And look, man, Callen Stanford are part of the pack

710
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Speaker 2: four right now. They really don't have a conference. They're

711
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Speaker 2: looking for a new home. And you got all these

712
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: ACC teams that are like, Nope, don't want to do that,

713
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Speaker 2: don't want to travel over there. What kind of dollars

714
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Speaker 2: and cents did they really bring to the conference When

715
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Speaker 2: they're not raking in football money. They're basically saying these

716
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Speaker 2: schools that said no to Callen Stanford, oh you're good

717
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Speaker 2: in the Olympic sports. That's nice. Where's the cash, you know?

718
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Speaker 2: And so they voted thumbs down. And Florida State in

719
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Speaker 2: particular is the most interesting one because they've been very

720
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: chatty about potentially leaving the ACC and then they're like, Nope,

721
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Speaker 2: don't want Callen Stanford. Even though we're trying to formulate

722
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Speaker 2: a plan to maybe leave here. This whole thing is rich.

723
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is one of those things where you're

724
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Speaker 4: only as loyal as your options.

725
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Speaker 3: So the rest of the schools in the ACC, they're.

726
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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, yeah, well welcome them in with open arms.

727
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Speaker 4: But the schools you heard from, those four schools, they

728
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Speaker 4: all have options, you know, assuming things start going sideways

729
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: with the ACC the way they did with the PAC twelve,

730
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Speaker 4: you're talking about the four teams that could hit the

731
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Speaker 4: ejector seat button and probably land themselves in a different conference.

732
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Speaker 4: And that's the reality of where we're at in college

733
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Speaker 4: football is there's no loyalty for those who have options,

734
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Speaker 4: you know, So callan Stanford right now are desperate. They're

735
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Speaker 4: looking for safe footing somewhere, and they're probably barking up

736
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Speaker 4: the right tree because I do think that the writing's

737
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Speaker 4: on the wall and the ACC they're gonna need help quick.

738
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Speaker 4: I don't know if this necessarily answers that question, Brian Money,

739
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Speaker 4: I don't don't. I don't see how this is going

740
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Speaker 4: to be financially beneficial.

741
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Speaker 3: But there's strength in numbers, you know. It's if you're.

742
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: A conference with if you're in a conference with four

743
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 4: teams versus joining a conference with potentially north of ten teams.

744
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: When it all shakes out before twenty twenty four or

745
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 4: whatever the presumed start date would be. With the conference

746
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: shakeup that could be coming in the ACC, then yeah,

747
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: of course you're gonna jump ship on the Pack four

748
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 4: to go to the ACC. And on the other side

749
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: of it, outside of the four teams that have real

750
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 4: options like potentially have offers on the table to leave

751
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: their conference, the rest of those teams who are in

752
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: membership to the ACC are like shaking in their boots,

753
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 4: like we don't want to be the next PAC twelve,

754
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 4: so we better we better make some arrangements and make

755
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Speaker 4: some plan b's here before we end up having to

756
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Speaker 4: go to our contingency plans.

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00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, this whole thing's a mess.

758
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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 5: I wish that I could find some angle to like say, oh,

760
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Speaker 5: this this is the right path. I have no clue

761
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 5: what the right path is for these schools. It is

762
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Speaker 5: all three doors that they're trying to go down are

763
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Speaker 5: not doors that they're welcome in. It's it's like they're

764
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 5: wandering through the desert forty years and forty nine, you know,

765
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Speaker 5: like like my ancestors, you know, they don't know I

766
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Speaker 5: don't know where they're going to find water. This is

767
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Speaker 5: a really tough situation with probably not a happy ending.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing with Florida State. I just

769
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Speaker 2: love that they're threatening to leave and then voting no

770
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Speaker 2: to callan Stanford to be faced. It's very genuinely it's

771
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Speaker 2: like a kid that's threatening to run away and then says,

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Speaker 2: but don't rearrange the couches. Yeah, you know, and not

773
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Speaker 2: those drapes.

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Speaker 5: Make sure ready.

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Speaker 2: I thought you maybe leave it here. Why are you

776
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Speaker 2: weighing in on this? But it's all crazy coming up next.

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Speaker 2: It was an absolute clinic of exactly not what to do. Man,

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Speaker 2: it was a clinic on exactly what not to do.

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Speaker 2: the week that was for the Washington Commanders, oh my goodness,

785
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Speaker 2: buckle up, baby, because Ron Rivera, the head coach of

786
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Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders, he put on a clinic of what

787
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: not to do, wow, not to handle situations. So we

788
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Speaker 2: rewind to earlier in the week, he volunteered this information

789
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Speaker 2: of I got all these players complaining about the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 9: Eric has an approach it, it's the way he does

791
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Speaker 9: things and he's not gonna change. And because he believes

792
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Speaker 9: in it, Jack has his approach. You know, having been

793
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Speaker 9: a head coach, I think Jack has a tendency to

794
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Speaker 9: try and figure guys out a little bit more as

795
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Speaker 9: opposed to, Hey, this is it, this is the way

796
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Speaker 9: it's going to be, that type of stuff where Eric,

797
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Speaker 9: Eric hasn't had that experience.

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Speaker 3: Shot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Eric b enemy. He hasn't had this head

800
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: coaching experience, so he doesn't know how to adjust. He's

801
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: really just one speed, just in your face, intense, in

802
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: your face intense. He doesn't really know what's going on

803
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 2: just yet. And then the next day Ron Rivera tries

804
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: to clarify and puts it on us.

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Speaker 9: We talked about it, and it was just I basically

806
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 9: told him I put my foot in my mouth. I

807
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 9: think what I said wasn't as clear as it needed

808
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 9: to be, and I think the understanding of it is

809
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Speaker 9: just the fact that I think everybody's making, in my opinion,

810
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Speaker 9: a little bit more than needs to be made of this.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love when these people step in

812
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: it and then say, you guys are making too much

813
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: out of me stepping in it. What is he talking about?

814
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: This is Eric b Enemy, He interviewed fifteen times to

815
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 2: be a head coach, hasn't landed a head coaching gig

816
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: yet is now the offensive coordinator with the Washington Commanders,

817
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: and Ron Rivera just volunteers the information of oh yeah,

818
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: I got all these plays complaining about the enemy, and

819
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: you know, to be honest with you, he hasn't had

820
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: head coaching experience, doesn't really know how to adjust, right,

821
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 2: And it's on us, Okay, coach, it's on us. Someone

822
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Speaker 2: who's going into year thirteen as a head coach should

823
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: know way better than this. Somehow, some way, Ron Rivera didn't.

824
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

825
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 4: I mean, like, look, that's the only thing he has

826
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Speaker 4: over any other coach in the NFL is his experience,

827
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: because I mean, now, don't get me wrong, this is

828
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Speaker 4: a guy who had some success with the Carolina Panthers,

829
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Speaker 4: but not a ton.

830
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Speaker 3: I mean, he had some.

831
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Speaker 4: He had some nice seasons with the Carolina Panthers, and

832
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Speaker 4: I think overall he can handle being a head coach.

833
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 4: But he's not like the greatest press conference guy. He's

834
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 4: made some serious gaffes and missteps over the past couple

835
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 4: of seasons. We discussed this last week when this story

836
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 4: was popping off, also about how when you look around

837
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: the rest of the conference in the NFC East, what

838
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 4: do those teams have that you guys don't And he

839
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: answers the question with one word answer, and he says quarterback.

840
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Speaker 4: I mean, right, Carson Wentz was his guy at the time.

841
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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're going to destroy a player's confidence

842
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 4: using one word, I mean, in context, that's.

843
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Speaker 3: The way to do it.

844
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Speaker 2: I love how a reporter rich by the way, it

845
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Speaker 2: was like, but Dak is injured, it's Cooper Rush right now?

846
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Speaker 3: Right?

847
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Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I mean and this wasn't even the first

848
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Speaker 10: because you guys remember also, like, sorry, Garrison, there was

849
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 10: a point where he didn't even realize that they they

850
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Speaker 10: were playing for the playoffs or playing for that.

851
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Speaker 2: Right, that's right? Yeah, my god, I mean yeah, they

852
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: were talking about you're right, they were talking about starting

853
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: Sam Howe in the season finale because they were eliminated.

854
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Speaker 2: And he's like, wait, run that math by me, tiebreaker?

855
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Speaker 1: Is there something Yeah, to be fair, they can be

856
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: a little convoluted.

857
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Speaker 3: It's brutal, though, Like, that's what you're paid to do.

858
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 4: You're paid to not only be like, all right, you're coaching,

859
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 4: but let's be honest, you're administrating and you're making sure

860
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 4: that your coaches are being put in the best possible

861
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 4: circumstances to win as coaches. Same thing with your players. Also, organizationally,

862
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 4: you are a politician. You are the liaison between the

863
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 4: players and the media, the front office and the media.

864
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: You are the guy who they're going to clip out

865
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Speaker 4: quotes and use them to support their articles, whether good

866
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 4: or bad about the team. She better be careful with

867
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Speaker 4: what you say. It's a huge part of the job.

868
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 4: In Rivera is terrible awful. Media relations not his strength.

869
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Speaker 5: And it is funny because I think in the current

870
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 5: climate we live in the NFL, this might sound crazy,

871
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 5: but the optics of which the world view use your

872
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 5: team through matters a lot. And I know, probably to

873
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: the guys inside the locker room like Rich you probably

874
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 5: didn't care what the media thought of anything when you

875
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 5: were playing. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but it's that

876
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: makes sense to me. But from the outside looking in

877
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 5: the head coach is the lens. You know, if you're

878
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 5: familiar with uh, you know, one of the broadcasting cameras

879
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 5: that people shoot a lot, there's a there's a focus

880
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 5: ring that you twist on the on the front of

881
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 5: the lens and it turns it into focus and out

882
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 5: of focus.

883
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: The head coach is that lens.

884
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 5: They're the ones that can put things in focus and

885
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 5: in Ron Rivera's case, out of focus very quickly.

886
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: In terms of how the public views the team.

887
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 5: Again, inside the locker room, probably doesn't have a huge

888
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 5: impact on the score, whether or not this player understands

889
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 5: what the media thinks of this coach. They're just playing

890
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 5: and doing their job. But from our perspective, and again

891
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 5: you're listening to our show, we're the ones that are

892
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 5: talking about these teams. The head coach is that mouthpiece

893
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 5: one hundred percent. They're the focus ring. And right now,

894
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 5: Ron Rivera, I think it's fair to say probably a

895
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 5: little out of focus, a little out of touch.

896
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: With how he.

897
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 5: Expresses his views about the team and makes it clear

898
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 5: to the media what's going on in the locker room.

899
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 5: Maybe he's doing that purposely.

900
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

901
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 5: I don't think he has much of a plan here,

902
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 5: but a lot of times, like Bill Belichick's very strategic

903
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 5: right about what he says, how he says it, everything's calculated.

904
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 5: I think Ron Rivera needs to study under that form

905
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 5: of thinking and probably tweak his media skills just a bit.

906
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: Right. This is remember the zen Master Phil Jackson. Yea

907
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: would great example, right, he would say things and he's

908
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: sending messages and that's not this. Ron Rivera is just

909
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: stepping in it. And that's the thing. Man, As a

910
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: head coach, you got to eliminate distractions. You can't create them.

911
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: He just created a thing. If we fast forward to

912
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: the regular season and it's week five and it's heated

913
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: and the enemy has words with Terry McLaurin or whoever,

914
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: it's a thing. Yeah, we're gonna revisit these comments. Just

915
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: not smart. Now as far as b enemy's coaching style,

916
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting too. So Hall of Fame

917
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: left tackle Joe Thomas with the Browns. He was on

918
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: the Dan Patrick Show and he was talking about what

919
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 2: coaching styles really work for players in the NFL.

920
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 11: Kyle Shannan was the best coach I ever had, because

921
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 11: when you walked out of his meetings and you walked

922
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 11: onto the field on Sunday you felt like you were

923
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 11: more prepared. And that's the best motivation that any pro

924
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 11: athlete can get. And so really your style doesn't matter.

925
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 11: Whether you're Bill Belichick, whether you're just a nice softie,

926
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 11: whether Eric Bienemy and you're a yeller, like, none of

927
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 11: that really matters. And the players don't care about any

928
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 11: of that. What they care about is you proving that

929
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 11: you're putting them in a better position than the player

930
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 11: that they're going to be going against him.

931
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

932
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting, Rich, and you can speak

933
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: to this more than anybody. I think that makes a

934
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 2: ton of sense and it right. Joe Thomas elaborated and said,

935
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: that's why I'd really like to know exactly what the

936
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: enemy is saying. Is he saying things that are putting

937
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: players in better positions or is he so intense that

938
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: the message is getting lost just by the way he's

939
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: conveying it. But the particulars do matter at the end

940
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: of the day, though, It's about the information, not the delivery.

941
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I that is it.

942
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: Look, clarity is the most important part of this. If

943
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 4: you're shouting something but it's being clearly stated. It doesn't

944
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 4: really matter how emotionally you feel about the information. You

945
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 4: got to go out there and perform. This is the NFL.

946
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 4: You know, there is no higher platitude to get to.

947
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 3: So if you.

948
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: Don't like it, it's kind of like tough tough noogies.

949
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 4: But if you have a head coach who's going to

950
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 4: publicly undermine his offensive coordinator and maybe side with the

951
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: players publicly, maybe even before privately, like inside the doors

952
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: of the franchise, well maybe he got a chance as

953
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: a player to change things. But what Joe Thomas is

954
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: talking about is what I think everybody is chasing inside

955
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 4: of the building, which is clarity. You just want to

956
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 4: be clear on what the directions are, what are the expectations.

957
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 4: It's like when you're training a puppy, or you're raising kids,

958
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 4: or you know you're you're offering employees guidelines, I mean,

959
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: in any other business, if your employees, or your kids,

960
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 4: or or or your pets don't understand expectations, like I mean,

961
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 4: am I supposed to poop inside the house.

962
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 3: Or outside the house?

963
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 4: If that's not clear, guess what when you find a

964
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: big load in the middle of the kitchen floor, man,

965
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 4: it's on you. It is, you know, with a kid. Honestly,

966
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 4: like with a kid, we've not been there. But when

967
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 4: bedtime is all over the place, like you know, sometimes

968
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: you're tucking them in at seven thirty, sometimes you're talking

969
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: them in at nine to thirty, and there's a two

970
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 4: hour range. They're not gonna be in a rhythm. They're

971
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 4: not going to understand what's expecting. So like when all

972
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 4: of a sudden they're up until ten thirty one night

973
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 4: and you're blaming them for not getting settled, It's like, no, no, no, no,

974
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 4: it's your problem because you're being haphazard with expectations. The

975
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 4: same could be said about coaching, and Joe Thomas hit

976
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 4: the nail on the head. I think there's going to

977
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 4: be less people upset with any coach who's going to

978
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: coach hard, as long as they coach effectively. But we're

979
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 4: also in a different time, and you know, this part

980
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 4: of the story that we haven't discussed yet is the

981
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 4: fact that there's a lot of players coming out of

982
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: college football who have been coddled, who haven't really been

983
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 4: yelled at, and this is culture shock for a lot

984
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 4: of them.

985
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and I'll throw a third part of this

986
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 5: story that makes it dynamic and interesting. The last how

987
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 5: many years has Eric Bienemy had arguably the ivory tower

988
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 5: of Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

989
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: This his battery mates.

990
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 5: Ye, a little bit of a different vibe going from

991
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 5: the penthouse of Super Bowl champions and MVPs and arguably

992
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 5: one of the best offensive minded head coaches in the

993
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 5: game as kind of your your tutor, your mentor, and

994
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 5: now you're on an island with Sam Howell and Ron

995
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 5: Rivera and a battered offensive line and good receivers. But

996
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 5: let's be honest, the situation is very different. It's like

997
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 5: walking on eggshells. It's easier to crack one when they're

998
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 5: not Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, you know, found giving

999
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 5: you the foundation of it. It just it's a different

1000
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 5: vibe for him. And I don't want to say that

1001
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 5: this is one of the reasons why maybe he didn't

1002
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 5: get one of those head coaching jobs, But I think

1003
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 5: I wasn't in those interview rooms, so I don't know

1004
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 5: what went down. But maybe the style, thetation that people say, yeah,

1005
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 5: Eric can be a little tough, like well, maybe we

1006
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 5: need a little more, you know, I just I think

1007
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 5: all of these things all kind of align with all Right,

1008
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 5: it's gonna be growing pains going from the Chiefs and

1009
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 5: Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes to Washington.

1010
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 3: It is.

1011
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 5: And I think this is just part of that process

1012
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 5: for Eric, who's kind of an again offensive coordinator position.

1013
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 5: When you have Andy Reid is your head coach and

1014
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes is that quarterback, it's like, all right, just

1015
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 5: go do your thing, guys. Now he is really being

1016
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 5: relied upon to be the guy that cooks up the

1017
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 5: stuff that tastes really good on NFL Sundays, and right

1018
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 5: now the cooking maybe is a little bit bland, or

1019
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 5: maybe it's a little too spicy.

1020
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: I guess well. And the last thing I'll say about

1021
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: it is I've heard a lot of Hey, this is

1022
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: Ron Rivera getting ahead of the storm.

1023
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 5: Huh.

1024
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: He sees that the enemy might be next in line

1025
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: for his job, and that's why he strategically threw him

1026
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 2: under the bus. And it's like, if you think that through,

1027
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: that's not it. Because if Ron Rivera doesn't win a

1028
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: lot this year, he could very well be out of

1029
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: a job. We've got new ownership over there with the commanders.

1030
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: So if he's out of a job, what does he

1031
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: care whether it's be enemy or any.

1032
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 5: But usually the coordinators do not survive that. That's right,

1033
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 5: you know, the new head coach would break in a

1034
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 5: new staff.

1035
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: Right, Like, why would he bring in a guy just

1036
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: to run him over and then you know, destroy his

1037
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: chances to be the next guy in life. That doesn't

1038
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: make any sense. So this was just the classic example

1039
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: of Ron Rivera not having foresight and knowing how things

1040
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 2: were going to land. That was it, and he didn't

1041
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: understand the full gravity of the situation. He still doesn't

1042
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: understand it. He's like, I think you guys are making

1043
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 2: too much out of this. It's like, coach, you can't

1044
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 2: still think that he does. That's what he thinks. We've

1045
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: got rich Orenberger, Penn State All American. Jared Smith is

1046
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: with us FSR betting analyst who pulled out his uh

1047
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 2: what Cardinals Broncos preseason game bet.

1048
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 5: I was watching that from the hot tub of my

1049
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 5: apartment complex last night. I was screaming like a crazy person.

1050
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 5: They probably thought someone was getting robbed.

1051
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: Someone knocks on the door, what's going on in there?

1052
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: It's the Neucci.

1053
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 5: No, it was in like the open like you know,

1054
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 5: like the pool area has a hot tub, and I

1055
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 5: was with a couple of friends. We were watching the

1056
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 5: end of the game and I was screaming it was awesome.

1057
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's when you know you're invested in.

1058
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: That's what I'm paying.

1059
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 7: No.

1060
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: Coming up next was not playing this guy a good

1061
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,239
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1062
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Speaker 2: we've got Desmond Ritter of the Atlanta Falconkins getting zero

1069
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: playing time last night. Huh So he had four starts

1070
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: last year, it's a little over are one hundred passing

1071
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: attempts in his NFL career and no PT no PT

1072
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: last night. And what I'll say is I would have

1073
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: preferred to see him out there a bit, you know,

1074
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 2: just get a series or two, because let's be honest,

1075
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: it's not like he has a world of experience out there.

1076
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 2: But I think the other side to that argument is

1077
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: if you put him out there, well, you gotta put

1078
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: v Jon Robinson out there, you gotta put the starting

1079
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: offensive line out there, you gotta put Drake London out there,

1080
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: you gotta put, you gotta put, you gotta put. So

1081
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: I get it why they didn't, but I think with

1082
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: such young talent, let's not act like a series or

1083
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: two is the most death defying stunt of all time,

1084
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Sometimes we build these preseason

1085
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: games up where the injury factor is just cranked up

1086
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: to twenty seven on a scale from one to ten,

1087
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, the risk factor. I think

1088
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: a series or two would have made more sense than

1089
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: no playing time last night.

1090
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 4: There's an argument to be made for that. There's also

1091
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 4: an argument to be made against it, And that argument

1092
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 4: for some coaches is, well, look, if we're not going

1093
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 4: to put him in with the full complement of his

1094
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 4: offensive starters, what message are.

1095
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: We saying to him?

1096
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 4: Also, you know, if we're going to put him out

1097
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: there and we're going to use the preseason and build confidence,

1098
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 4: you know, him self, confidence the team, confidence in our

1099
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: starting quarterback, you know, whether or not he plays, is

1100
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 4: a huge indicator as to where you're at as a franchise.

1101
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: Now.

1102
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: I think Sean Payton's approach in Denver is different than

1103
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 4: it is in Atlanta. Right now, you know, you have

1104
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 4: a team that I think really needs to completely reconstruct

1105
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 4: the culture, whereas maybe you feel like you have your

1106
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 4: culture a little bit more in place. Again, it all

1107
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 4: comes down to the head coach and his feelings on

1108
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 4: these things, and also some of the coordinators and the

1109
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 4: other influential people around the football program. Because if there

1110
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 4: is people making an argument, you know, whether it's your

1111
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 4: offensive or defensive coordinator, like, hey, our guys need work.

1112
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 4: So I know you don't normally like to burn the starters,

1113
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 4: but we need to get them out there for.

1114
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: A couple of series just so I can.

1115
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 4: Make sense of some of the you know, the decision

1116
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 4: making that we need to make ahead of ahead of

1117
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 4: the season. It's a mixed bag in certain cases, but

1118
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 4: I wouldn't read too deeply into it. I would say

1119
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 4: that it's natural for a coach to make this decision

1120
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 4: and for people to furrow their eyebrows at it, and

1121
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 4: then come the regular season, we all forget how much

1122
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 4: playing time anybody got in the preseason because at the

1123
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 4: end of the day, does it really matter. Yeah, sure,

1124
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 4: but not as much which as we make it out

1125
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 4: to during these four weeks.

1126
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 5: I agree. I think the recency bias of the NFL

1127
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 5: is back we want to see these guys gives us

1128
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 5: a little bit of a skew. Sure, you sent him

1129
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 5: out there for a drive, but let's say he did

1130
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 5: go out there for a drive and he was one

1131
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 5: of one and they ran the ball a couple times,

1132
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 5: then they punted like okay, Like it wouldn't change my

1133
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 5: opinion either or. And I think the big indicator for

1134
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 5: me is the fact that Taylor Heineke didn't even play.

1135
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 5: It was Logan woodside the whole game. It didn't even

1136
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 5: play the second string quarterback in that game. So it

1137
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 5: felt like an organizational decision that we are just going

1138
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 5: to go with the backup, backup, backups in these cases.

1139
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 5: And it is interesting because I think the one thing

1140
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 5: that I do glean from preseason is I start to

1141
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 5: formulate opinions on each head coaches. I'll call it profile

1142
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 5: or persona for example, Sean.

1143
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: Payton starters are playing the whole time. Go out there

1144
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: and get as a touchdown.

1145
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson, Arthur Smith, first team, second team quarterbacks, you're good.

1146
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 5: Take the night off. Jon Robinson, top ten pick. You're good,

1147
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 5: take the night off.

1148
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: Right like it.

1149
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 5: It gives us a glimpse into the psychological profile of

1150
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 5: Arthur Smith compared to where Sean Payton is right now,

1151
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 5: which is like all gas, no break, like Robert Salah,

1152
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 5: whereas Arthur Smith maybe a little more patient approach to

1153
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 5: the season, maybe a little more kid gloves for his

1154
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 5: young quarterback, trying not to throw them into the fire

1155
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 5: too early. Maybe that's over protective and coddling. You could

1156
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 5: make that argument. But I think what it's doing is

1157
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 5: it's giving us a little bit of a glimpse behind

1158
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 5: the curtain of what's going on in Atlanta right now.

1159
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 5: They don't feel one hundred percent confident with throwing their

1160
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 5: guys out there. Maybe they need more work on something else.

1161
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 5: Maybe the offensive line soon in is. I don't know

1162
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 5: what that answer is, but it does kind of give

1163
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 5: us wow. Sean Payton put Russell Wilson out there for

1164
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 5: a four series and neither the first or second team

1165
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in Atlanta got once snap against the Dolphins.

1166
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: It's just it's so funny to.

1167
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 5: See the start contrast in coaching styles in the preseason.

1168
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: Okay, for a second, put yourself in the shoes of

1169
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: a die hard Falcons fan. Okay, I want to see, Okay,

1170
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: fair as it relates to what you think would help

1171
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: the team the most with the regular season approaching, right,

1172
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: which would be your preference? Would it be what happened

1173
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: last night? Zero playing time for the top guns? Or

1174
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: a series or two? I' la Deshaun Watson got one

1175
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: series with the Browns. Mahomes will get at least a

1176
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: series with the Chiefs, which is pretty telling. I would

1177
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: as a Falcons fan, I would with Desmond Rider. He's

1178
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 2: got four starts under his belt in the NFL. Let's

1179
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: get him a driver too. That would be my preference.

1180
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: If I'm a diehard Falcons fan.

1181
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: I get it, you know, I I don't. I don't.

1182
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with that. As a fan, I want

1183
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 4: to see I want to see the players play. I mean,

1184
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 4: especially if you're a season ticket holder, especially if you

1185
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 4: are forced to buy you know, two or three extra

1186
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 4: home games depending.

1187
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: From ticket holders. Now they just want people to come.

1188
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, that I mean, they're part of the package.

1189
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 3: You gotta buy them. You gotta buy them if you're

1190
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 3: buying the package.

1191
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: One team was giving them away for free one year.

1192
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: I remember it's it's brutal man, and that one was like,

1193
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: what were we Thinking's not Jarrett as our marketing director,

1194
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: that's for sure.

1195
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,959
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, it's it's one of It's one of these

1196
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 4: things where where as a fan, you want what's best

1197
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 4: for you. And that's understandable because what, like, honestly, what

1198
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 4: do you care necessarily about, you know, the psychology of

1199
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 4: a football player. Throughout the course of a practice week

1200
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 4: in the preseason, you're not really thinking about it. You're

1201
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 4: thinking about, gosh, you know, I want to see what

1202
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 4: all these new toys look like that we got under

1203
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 4: the Christmas tree in April. You know, Draft time comes,

1204
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 4: we're excited about Beijon Robinson.

1205
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 3: Well, we're not gonna be able to see him until

1206
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 3: the regular season. He's a rookie. Get him out there

1207
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 3: so I can at least get a taste.

1208
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 4: I need my fix, you know what I mean, Like

1209
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 4: as a fan, I completely understand it. But as a practitioner,

1210
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 4: you know, you you you gotta be careful, you know.

1211
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 4: I mean, depending on the type of you know, uh,

1212
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 4: mental profiles you have inside of your football program. You

1213
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 4: gotta do what's right now. I'm not even saying that

1214
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: maybe Desmond Ridder wanted to play. You know, maybe Desmond

1215
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 4: Ridder was like chomping at the bit to get out

1216
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 4: there and throw some footballs around, and Arthur Smith was like, nah,

1217
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 4: we're not doing that. We're not up to that part

1218
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 4: of the process yet. You'll get time in the preseason

1219
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 4: I promise you, but we're not doing that right nowt B.

1220
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 3: Jonn Robinson same thing.

1221
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 4: I'm fairly certain he wants to see what it feels

1222
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 4: like to put on a Falcons jersey instead of a

1223
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 4: Longhorns jersey and be running the football against real NFL talent.

1224
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 3: You know.

1225
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 4: It's it's a process though for some of these coaches,

1226
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 4: how far of a leash they're gonna let out during

1227
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 4: the preseason. And so the philosophy in Kansas City, obviously

1228
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 4: with Andy Reid, who you can't argue with his success

1229
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 4: is different than Arthur Smith's, is different than Robert Salaz,

1230
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 4: is different than Bill Belichick's is different than you know,

1231
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 4: Damika ryans it it doesn't matter who's the coach. Well,

1232
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 4: I should say all that matters is who's the coach,

1233
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: because essentially they're making all these decisions. It almost it

1234
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 4: almost doesn't matter who's the players, is the way to

1235
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 4: say it, because you're just sort of cogs in a wheel.

1236
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 4: They're gonna replace you at some point, and they're gonna

1237
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 4: keep going with the philosophy that they feel works.

1238
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 5: I love how you phrased it, the process rich because yeah,

1239
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 5: I'll put it in gambling terms. Every week during college

1240
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 5: football NFL season, I have a process. It's very repeatable.

1241
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 5: The games happen on Saturday and Sunday, the lines drop

1242
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 5: later Sunday night. The process repeats Monday morning. We go

1243
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 5: through it, we do the prep, we do this, we

1244
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 5: do that, and then we reach eventually a spreadsheet that

1245
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 5: has these are the best picks of the week in

1246
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 5: terms of my process, and that has nothing to do

1247
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 5: with playing quarterback in the NFL. My point being, Arthur

1248
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 5: Smith's process is very different than Sean Payton's process.

1249
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 3: YEP.

1250
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 5: Their process as how they work through the problem. Each gambler,

1251
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 5: each broadcaster, has a different process for how they go

1252
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 5: through their show and how they prep and it doesn't

1253
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 5: make one guy's process right or wrong. The results will

1254
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 5: eventually tell that. And to be fair, Sean Payton's results

1255
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 5: have been pretty good. Arthur Smith's results, I'd still say incomplete.

1256
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 5: We don't know enough yet, I think. But also, this

1257
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 5: is Sean Payton's second run around. I don't want to

1258
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 5: keep going back to Sean, but it just it shows

1259
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 5: the stark difference in how those coaches go through their process.

1260
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 5: Where Sean Payton has a calculated approach to how he

1261
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 5: is running his preseason.

1262
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: The starters are going to play the most.

1263
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 5: Most of any team in Week one, whereas the Falcons

1264
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 5: didn't even play their second string quarterback in week one

1265
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 5: of the preseason. It just shows the different approaches that

1266
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 5: these head coaches take.

1267
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1268
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 5: If I had to bet which team will have a

1269
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 5: better record this year, I probably picked the Broncos, but

1270
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 5: the Falcons probably What would you take? I think I

1271
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 5: would take the Broncos over there. I'll be honest. I

1272
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 5: think I think Denver is going to have a better

1273
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 5: year than people think they might.

1274
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: That might be a dead heat, you know it could

1275
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,479
Speaker 2: be about the quality of those divisions NFC South. True,

1276
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: I'm more favorable.

1277
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 5: I think it's I'm not as high on the Falcons

1278
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 5: as everyone else's, but I can be swayed seeing you

1279
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 5: hear a lot of these opinions.

1280
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: I feel like my opinions.

1281
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,439
Speaker 2: But Jared, do you hear a lot of positivity about

1282
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: the Falcons?

1283
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 5: I do?

1284
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do.

1285
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 5: In the sharp betting markets, the Falcons win total has

1286
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 5: been bet up considerably. I think the Falcons are one

1287
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 5: of the most talked about buzz teams in the offseason

1288
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 5: in terms of their win total.

1289
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: Is wrong.

1290
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 5: This team is flying. You don't see win totals in

1291
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 5: the NFL move a full win very often. Yeah, Atlanta

1292
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 5: has come close to that.

1293
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: It's almost like they drafted a stud running back.

1294
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: In the top ten. Trolling fascinating.

1295
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 2: It's just a troll job. Okay, don't don't take the bait.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, I won't take the bait.

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Speaker 1: Even I already talked it.

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Speaker 5: I'm hungry at the breakfast time.

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Speaker 2: Well, you talk about process here, We're gonna find out

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: in great detail right now, the process that Isaac Lohenkron

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01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: has a producing award winning update after award winning update

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Speaker 2: here he is right now.

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Speaker 8: A lot of detail in this one, and I really

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01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 8: think the universe. It's more the universe coming up with

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01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 8: this stuff that I just can't even make up. And

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01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 8: all have to do is tell the people about it,

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01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 8: as you will find out moments from now, as we

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Speaker 8: start with the quarterfinals of the Women's World Cup and

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01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 8: host nation Australia advancing for the semi five with a

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Speaker 8: penalty kick shootout win over France. It went ten rounds

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01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 8: twenty penalty kicks total before Australia one of the shootouts

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Speaker 8: seven to six. It was the longest shootout in World

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Speaker 8: Cup history. Men's or women's. England then defeated Columbia two

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Speaker 8: to one. NFL preseason Friday night, the aarson A Cardinals

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01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 8: defeated the Denver Broncos eighteen to seventeen. Russell Wilson completed

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01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 8: seven of thirteen for ninety three yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 8: Washington Is seventeen fifteen win at Cleveland. Brown's rookie quarterback

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Speaker 8: Dorian Thompson Robinson another strong performance, completed nine of ten

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01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 8: for one to two and a touchdown. Jordan Love completed

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01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 8: seven of ten for forty six yards and a touchdown

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01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 8: pass and the green Bay Packers thirty six to nineteen

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01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,520
Speaker 8: win at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 12: We're gonna play you.

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Speaker 8: A highlight from that game, but it's an off the

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Speaker 8: field highlight. The Great Kevin Harlan is the Packers' preseason

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Speaker 8: television announcer, and we're gonna play you the telecast coming

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Speaker 8: back from commercial, and the camera shot settles in on

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Speaker 8: a lady fan who is a green Bay Packers fan.

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Speaker 8: And this lady fan is wearing what I am delicately

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Speaker 8: describing as a brazier made of cheese.

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Speaker 12: Cheese, green Bay Packers Packers fan.

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Speaker 5: So here is ipress How you danced around that one? Yeah?

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01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I was tap dancing with him. So

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Speaker 12: here is Kevin Harlan's reaction.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati, A beautiful night and all.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, A beautiful nightie Cincinnati's first.

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Speaker 8: Down highlight, Kevin Harlan amazing rendered speechless by a green

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Speaker 8: Bay Packers fan. In Major League Baseball on Friday night,

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 8: the Seattle Marritgers made it eight straight wins with a

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01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 8: nine to two win over the Baltimore Orioles. The Los

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01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 8: Angeles Dodgers made it six straight wins with a six

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Speaker 8: to one win over the Colorado Rockies.

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Speaker 3: Hold on.

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Speaker 8: All right, finally, fellas, I'm told we have a golf update.

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01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 8: Let's listen to this golf update.

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Speaker 4: When I'm on the course and it's getting hot, I

1347
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 4: like to drink Longball double.

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Speaker 12: It's hard iced tea, super hard. Well, here to break

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01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 12: that down, Fox, lets that from.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: We do a free round of golf with Big Rich

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 4: TD and Fletch Uh. That's our our morning show in

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01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 4: San Diego.

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Speaker 3: And we we.

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01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 4: Have this drink called long Ball hard iced Tea that

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01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 4: endorses us and it sets up the rounds of golf.

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01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 3: So when duty calls, gentlemen, you.

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 4: Go hit the golf golf course with a with a

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01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,919
Speaker 4: long long ball hard.

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Speaker 3: Iced tea and you play some golf. And that's exactly

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Speaker 3: what we did on Thursday.

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Speaker 8: But here to paint a picture, Rich is being far

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01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 8: too modest because to paint a picture, Rich was executing

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 8: a no look poor.

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01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,839
Speaker 12: So he was looking at the camera wall.

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Speaker 1: Pouring it as broadcasting.

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Speaker 8: The cameraman was deeply concerned that it was going to spill,

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Speaker 8: and he poured it perfectly so the phone reached the

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Speaker 8: exact top of the cup without spilling, but it was

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Speaker 8: a no look, poor brilliant jow.

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Speaker 2: It's as fest It's almost like he had done that

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Speaker 2: before it.

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01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 12: This is what pete that day.

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01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 2: This looks like I'm sorry, I'm not bragging.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Isaac.

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Speaker 5: Goodness gracious, I found a way to slip that into

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Speaker 5: the update.

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Speaker 2: By the way, great job by Kevin Harlan. Right, she's

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: brazier man.

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Speaker 5: He needs to be protected at all costs when he

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01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 5: does the calls of the people streaking across the field.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so good. He did one in the Super Bowl.

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: Amazing, it's great.

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01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: That was the Tampa Kansas.

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Speaker 5: Is my favorite boy by play guy for some time now.

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01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 5: I I I don't know if we know him at all,

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01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 5: but if we can set up a meet and greet

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01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 5: with me and Kevin Harlan, I would be like it

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01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 5: would be it would make all my dreams come true.

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Speaker 1: As a chess chest.

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01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: He's bear chested and banging his chest.

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01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 3: He's at the thirty at the twenty.

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01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: Banning his chest. A treasure of American broadcasting.

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01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: One of my favorite was gosh, do you remember when

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01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 2: it was for the one seed?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: So, I think he was doing a Chiefs game, and

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01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: he might have been commenting on the Dolphins game because

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Speaker 2: it impacted who was the number.

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Speaker 4: One seeded doing yeah by play, Yeah, play by play.

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01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: Guy was like, which guy, game are you calling? He's like,

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01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm calling both games, or.

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01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 3: That's great's awesome.

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01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 2: We got rich Orenberger pen stayed All American Master, No

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01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 2: look poorer. I guess we could say we've got Jared

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Speaker 2: Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No coming up next.

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01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: The numbers on this athlete are staggering and we're not

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Speaker 2: even talking about within his sports details on the way.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's kurchested and panting his chest. It is Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Saturday live from the Tirack dot Com studios Here on

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Speaker 2: to do with golf. As far as Phil Mickelson is concerned.

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Speaker 2: It has to do with gambling. Wow, So a new

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Speaker 2: book coming out with a professional gambler, Billy Walters. So,

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01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: Billy Walters and Phil used to be boys. They had

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Speaker 2: a falling out. It's a long story. And so Billy

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01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: Walters is airing some dirty laundry, if you will. He's

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Speaker 2: writing a book called Gambler Secrets from a Life of Risk,

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01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: and so you gotta have something spicy for it to

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01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 2: stand out and get noticed and sell. And so he's

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Speaker 2: got all these nuggets about Phil Mickelson, who is a

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Speaker 2: gambling madman over here. According to Billy Walters, over the

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Speaker 2: span of three decades, Phil Mickelson wagered as much as

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01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 2: one billion dollars with a B and lost upwards of

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01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars. And then he's got even more

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01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: specific nuggets where Phil he wanted to bet on Team

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01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 2: USA in the twenty twelve Ryder Cup when he was

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01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: on the team, and Billy Walters said, are you bleeping

1434
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 2: kidding me?

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 3: Over here?

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: You out of her mind? I don't want anything to

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01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 2: do with it.

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01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,839
Speaker 5: Billy Walters, the voice of reason for Phil.

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01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 2: Mixeles, I know it, I know. To me the book

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01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 2: Life of Risk And then whoa are you crazy? That's

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01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 2: too risky, that doesn't quite add up, But uh, take of.

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01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 3: It what you will.

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01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: There's no doubt that Phil has put down chunk after

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01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 2: chunk after chunk on many different sporting events in his time.

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01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 2: What do you think about this?

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01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 3: Rich?

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01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:20,799
Speaker 5: Uh?

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01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 4: You know what, Look, as long as you're not hurting

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01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 4: anyone else, and you're not ultimately doing you know, damage

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01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 4: to yourself that that will result in disaster, then I

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01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 4: think you should be allowed to do whatever you want,

1452
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like I I definitely look,

1453
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 4: we have laws in place to protect you from yourself,

1454
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 4: you know, so ultimately nobody wants anybody to be hurt

1455
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 4: by by your actions, including on you onto yourself. But

1456
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 4: it's a free country. If he wants to bet away

1457
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 4: his winnings or frankly win and and and and continue

1458
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 4: to grow his fortune, who am I to stand in

1459
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 4: his way? It's not what I'm into. I'm not I'm

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01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 4: when I wager on anything, it's it's not even near

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01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 4: the sort of amounts that we're talking about. I mean,

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01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 4: we're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars swings in

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01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 4: one bet. You know, Phil's made a lot of money though,

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01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 4: so again, maybe if I was at a different platitude

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01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 4: in my life financially, maybe I would feel differently, but

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01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 4: maybe not. It's but it's a personality thing, and and

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01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 4: Phil has that kind of risk taker personality. This is

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01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 4: something we've known about Phil. Anybody who paid attention to

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01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 4: the sport of golf has known that Phil's a big gambler.

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Speaker 4: The same way anybody who pays attention to the game

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Speaker 4: of basketball has known that Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley big gamblers.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's only recently been sort of hitting mainstream media,

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01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 4: or I should say, like, you know, it's become more

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01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 4: pop culture. But this is stuff that's twenty thirty years

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01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 4: old now in terms of the information being available if

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01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 4: you went looking for it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it kind of correlates to gambling becoming more mainstream

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01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 5: and now we're seeing a lot more of these athletes

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01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 5: that maybe feel a little more comfortable coming out of

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01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 5: the woodworks a little bit. But to put this story

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01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 5: in perspective, so Billy Walters, for those of you that

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01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 5: don't know, you're not a big you know, you're not

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01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 5: into really the gambling community. Billy Walters is probably the

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01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 5: Doyle Brunson of sports betting is how I would compare it,

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Speaker 5: if you want to make a poker reference. He is

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01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 5: the Babe Ruth of sports betting. He is one of

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Speaker 5: the most legendary figures. And for years it was under wraps,

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01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 5: and then he had irs problem. And now he's, you know,

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01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 5: kind of going through the back nine of his life

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01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 5: and he's telling some of these stories.

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Speaker 1: And this book is I mean, I've already pre ordered it.

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01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 5: It is must see TV in book form, and I

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01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 5: can't wait to read some of the things that he's

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01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 5: been through over the years, specifically with Phil. I'm going

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01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,560
Speaker 5: to read you an excerpt from the book that describes

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Speaker 5: Phil's gambling habits and Brian, you gamble a lot.

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01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: I gamble a lot, Rich. I know you like to dabble.

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01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 5: This line almost made me stop in my tracks and say, wow,

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01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 5: Phil really has a problem. On one day in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 5: June twenty second, Phil made.

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Speaker 1: Forty three bets on Major League.

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01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 5: Baseball games, resulting in one hundred and forty three thousand

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01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 5: dollars in losses. Now, I know, grant scheme for Phil,

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01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:48,440
Speaker 5: that's like ten dollars for us. But I've been gambling

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01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,799
Speaker 5: on sports since I was in high school. I cannot

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01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 5: recall a day where I've ever placed forty three bets

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01:18:55,160 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 5: in one day. That is impressive, or Garrett, I don't

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01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 5: know what at Jibewoni is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is wild. That is wild. And man, you

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01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 2: think back to twenty eleven. I don't know how crazy

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Speaker 2: they were with props at that time. Can you remember

1512
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 2: back to that?

1513
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: A lot of sides and totals.

1514
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 5: Well, but the props market is very recent. Probably it

1515
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 5: was a lot of first five and run lines and totals,

1516
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 5: I would guess, right, you know, because betting money lines

1517
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 5: in baseball can be tough. Some of them are really

1518
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 5: highly juiced in one direction depending on the game. But

1519
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 5: totals and first fives and run lines tend to be

1520
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 5: a little more fairly priced, I would say, especially the

1521
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 5: run lines.

1522
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope some of them were Nerfy's.

1523
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 5: I always bet nerf Is back in when I was hot.

1524
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,799
Speaker 1: The existed for years.

1525
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 2: It almost regains gambling itself with the whole Mickelson situation. Here,

1526
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: someone is lying through their teeth. It's Illy, either Billy

1527
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 2: Walters or it's Phil. Specifically about the Ryder Cup. When

1528
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: Billy Walters brings this up, and that's oddly specific. Where

1529
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: in twenty two obvious said Phil wanted to bet four

1530
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars on Team USA to be they lost,

1531
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 2: that they lost by a strod ridiculous. So either either

1532
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: Billy is lying and saying you don't want to be

1533
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: Pete Rose, or Phil is lying when he came out

1534
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 2: with the statement and said he would never undermine the

1535
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 2: integrity of the game. Somebody is lying through their teeth,

1536
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: And if it's Phil, now would be the time to be.

1537
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: He's already wearing black, going to live. You might as

1538
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 2: well just shrug your shoulders and be like, yeah, I tried,

1539
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 2: good thing I didn't get that in We would have lost,

1540
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 2: right and laugh it off. All right, come it up next.

1541
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1548
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers had co coach Kyle Shanahan. He revealed

1549
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 2: that a contingency plan for the forty nine ers, should

1550
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: they have made the Super Bowl or had brock Purty

1551
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 2: gone down at any point during the season, was to

1552
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 2: call Philip Rivers wild out of retirement and say, hey,

1553
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: suit up seventeen, let's go. So with brock Purty getting

1554
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: hurt in the NFC Championship game, we were pretty close

1555
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 2: to that possibly happening, where it would have been what

1556
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,719
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes with the Chiefs and Philip Rivers of the Eagles.

1557
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 2: Now I know what you're thinking, is well, that game

1558
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 2: was a route that wasn't even close. Well what if

1559
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: rock Perty got hurt in the fourth quarter and the

1560
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: niners Is held on and clung to a ten point

1561
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 2: lead when he went down, You know what I mean? Like,

1562
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 2: we weren't that. We were a game away from Philip

1563
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: Rivers coming up of retirement to possibly starve for the

1564
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: Eagles in the Super Bowl. That is wild.

1565
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,839
Speaker 4: Well we've seen this before, and I mean not maybe

1566
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 4: as dramatic as all that, but Eric Weddle didn't play

1567
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 4: a snap for the Los Angeles Rams, and then the

1568
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,520
Speaker 4: safety came out of retirement and played throughout the postseason

1569
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 4: for them and won a.

1570
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 3: Super Bowl with them. Yeah.

1571
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 4: And oddly enough, they're both you know, former San Diego

1572
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 4: Chargers Weddell and Rivers.

1573
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: Is that a former team out of years too?

1574
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 3: Rich? Yeah, Yeah, I played with both of those guys.

1575
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Eric Weddle and Philip Rivers both and and what

1576
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 4: I'll say about both of them, the reasons why it

1577
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 4: was possible for Eric Weddle or even feasible for Kyle

1578
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 4: Shanahan to dial up Philip Rivers agent number or or

1579
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 4: his number, is because you're talking about two of the

1580
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 4: smartest football players I've ever played with. I mean, these

1581
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 4: are guys who they just understand the language of football.

1582
01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 4: And there is there is Look, there is a different

1583
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 4: language in every locker room. Every playbook is different. Every

1584
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 4: playbook has their own nuances and language unto itself. But

1585
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 4: there are certain guys in their minds they have the

1586
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 4: Rosetta stone. It doesn't matter what system they're playing in,

1587
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter where they're playing, it doesn't matter who

1588
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 4: they're playing with. They can speak the language. And Phillip's

1589
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 4: one of those guys. He connects with players really quick.

1590
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 4: He obviously could be handed a playbook ahead of time

1591
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 4: and have a grasp on it before he's called into action.

1592
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 4: That's something I imagine was at least discussed between him

1593
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 4: and Kyle Shanahan, depending on how many conversations they had. Yeah,

1594
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 4: so this is actually to me, it would have been

1595
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 4: a really smart contingency plan for the forty nine ers

1596
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 4: had they escaped the NFC Championship Game with a win,

1597
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 4: because then you're hopeless to the super Bowl against Patty Mahomes.

1598
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's just.

1599
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 4: A reality if you don't have a quarterback, a healthy

1600
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 4: one against Patrick Mahomes. Because remember Josh Johnson also got

1601
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 4: knocked out of that game with a concussion as well.

1602
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 4: So even if they had survived, who I mean, I

1603
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 4: guess you would if you don't sign anybody, I guess

1604
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 4: you would try to get Christian McCaffrey prepared if you

1605
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 4: can't if nobody's ready to go. Yeah, so crazy situation.

1606
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 4: I think it would have worked. It would have been

1607
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 4: a lot of fun to see. But you know, that's uh,

1608
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 4: that's one that's one that's gonna get left on the

1609
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 4: h the bookshelf.

1610
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 3: In terms of what could have been in the NFL.

1611
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think what the line would have been,

1612
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 5: Like how much do you downgrade the Niners or upgrade

1613
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 5: them from brock Perty to Philip Rivers?

1614
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I don't know.

1615
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 5: I think a field goal down would be my would

1616
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 5: be my first guess, Like you maybe take a field

1617
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 5: goal away like from for for perspective, when when the

1618
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 5: Packers that that one week went from Aaron Rodgers to

1619
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 5: Jordan Love. It was a touchdown and a lot of

1620
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 5: really smart betters thought that was too big of a move.

1621
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 5: And I think the Packers did end up covering that

1622
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 5: game against the Chiefs, but it was a full touchdown

1623
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 5: move from Rogers to Love.

1624
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe field goal the Rivers thing, listen.

1625
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like there's probably a lot of

1626
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 5: quarterbacks we're talking about Matt Ryan in that vein. I

1627
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 5: think Tom Brady gets mentioned every week about could he return,

1628
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 5: will he return?

1629
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: When will he return?

1630
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 5: These quarterbacks, the last thing to go is the jump shot, right,

1631
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 5: That's what they say in basketball and for the in

1632
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 5: the NFL, I think the last thing to go is

1633
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 5: your arm. Like I think these guys probably could go

1634
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 5: out there and chuck it around the yard. Still, it's

1635
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 5: that recovery, it's the legs, it's the hits that they

1636
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 5: take that just takes its toll over time, and that's

1637
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 5: why they probably wouldn't be able to play the position

1638
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 5: for a long stretch at the age that they're at.

1639
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 5: But I bet if you asked Tom or phil or

1640
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 5: Matt Ryan, hey you got one game, that's it, go

1641
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 5: out there and leave it all out there, I bet

1642
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 5: all of them could go out there and probably give

1643
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 5: us a pretty yeoman's effort and probably play the game

1644
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 5: a little bit better than maybe we would think at

1645
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 5: the ages that they are currently at. Tom obviously being

1646
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 5: the most senior of the bunch, But I just think

1647
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 5: the quarterback position is unique in that sense because it's such.

1648
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: A cerebral position.

1649
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 5: As long as you can think and as long as

1650
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 5: that arm still got a little bit zip to it,

1651
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 5: a lot of these guys could probably go out there

1652
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 5: and give you a game.

1653
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1654
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 2: Well, the crazy thing is this would have been legacy

1655
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 2: type stuff. If he and I said the egos before,

1656
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:38,799
Speaker 2: if it's Chiefs and forty nine ers and Philip Rivers

1657
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: goes out there like he would have a legitimate shot

1658
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: with that supporting cast. I know, even coming out of retirement,

1659
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 2: they would have had a legitimate shot to win that game.

1660
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 2: And the thing with Philip Rivers is you look at

1661
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 2: his all time numbers. I mean, he's sixth in career

1662
01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: passing yards. He's sixth in career passing touchdowns. It's a

1663
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: different era, but he's got more yards than Marino, one

1664
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 2: more touchdown pass then Dan Marino, you know what I mean,

1665
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 2: Sixth all time in both prestigious categories, and yet it's

1666
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 2: really a shoulder shrug when it comes to his Hall

1667
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 2: of Fame candidacy, there are a lot of people are like, eh,

1668
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: you know what hurts him a lot is his draft class.

1669
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: Eli has two rings, Big Ben has two rings, but

1670
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: Phil put up numbers. Yet his legacy is sort of

1671
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 2: like he was good, but where's the playoff success. If

1672
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 2: he came off the couch and won a ring against Mahomes,

1673
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 2: Andy Reid and the Chiefs with the Niners, that would

1674
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 2: have been a script from a movie that you would

1675
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 2: have walked out from saying this is just stupid, and

1676
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,480
Speaker 2: we weren't that far away from that being the reality.

1677
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean, but just think about best practices

1678
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 4: and best options. I mean a guy who his most

1679
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 4: recent stint in the NFL was jumping in during the

1680
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 4: pandemic with the Indianapolis Colts after playing all those years.

1681
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 3: For the the the.

1682
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 4: Chargers and having automatic success. Now granted, he knew Frank Reich,

1683
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 4: he was his offensive coordinator in San Diego at that

1684
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 4: time before Frank left for Philadelphia and then obviously took

1685
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 4: on the head coaching job in Indianapolis, but he jumped

1686
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 4: right in there with the Colts and they had success. Yeah,

1687
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 4: the last time we saw him was in a playoff

1688
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 4: game against the Bills. You know, so Philip Rivers, you know,

1689
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 4: he went out, He went out, he retired. His final

1690
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 4: moments were in the playoffs. So it's kind of like

1691
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,879
Speaker 4: picking up right where he left off now again appearing

1692
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 4: in a super Bowl. Very different situation, but I agree

1693
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 4: with you it would have been a legacy defining moment

1694
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 4: had the forty nine Ers found a way to survive

1695
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 4: the Eagles, because then all of a sudden, you're talking

1696
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,719
Speaker 4: about a guy with unfinished business coming back for one

1697
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 4: two week ramp up and playing in inarguably the biggest

1698
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 4: game of his life, and it could have serious impacts

1699
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 4: on how he's remembered and uh, and where you know,

1700
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 4: where he fits in in the history of the NFL.

1701
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 4: It's a fun story, man. And I agree with what

1702
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 4: Jared said. I think the grind that you hear quarterbacks

1703
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 4: talk about, the mental fortitude it takes to lock in

1704
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 4: for those seventeen weeks of the regular Season's that's the

1705
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 4: toughest part, the recovery from the hits, the games where

1706
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 4: you play bad, and how much it affects you, the

1707
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 4: fact that you know more more so than in some

1708
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:47,759
Speaker 4: cases than even the head coach. A quarterback is going

1709
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 4: to is going to sacrifice a lot of hours with

1710
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 4: their family in order to be at the top of

1711
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 4: the mountain, especially the great ones.

1712
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 3: You know.

1713
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 4: So it's it's a huge sacrifice. And and but but for

1714
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 4: one game, one game only, Yeah, I mean that it's

1715
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 4: it would have been It would have been really really

1716
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 4: exciting to see what the results would have been.

1717
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 5: I'm glad we didn't get it, though, really, I like this.

1718
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 2: Are you tell me you got a chance between and

1719
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 2: it was great? But going in, like, we don't know

1720
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 2: how the Super Bowl unfolds, right, would you rather have

1721
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 2: Mahomes Jalen Hurts, you know, Chiefs Eagles, which is a

1722
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: good compelling storyline, or Philip Rivers coming out of retirement

1723
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 2: for the Niners. Oh give me the Niners.

1724
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: Legal you know why.

1725
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 5: And don't get me wrong, I love the story and

1726
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,640
Speaker 5: there is some multiversal reality out there where that is

1727
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 5: actual truth. But I think the Eagles getting to the

1728
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 5: Super Bowl and putting Jalen Hurts in that position is

1729
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 5: setting up the next chapter better.

1730
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: It would have been a nice close to Philip Rivers' chapter.

1731
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 5: But now we get the Eagles, and I don't want

1732
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 5: to call it a dynasty or whatever, but in terms

1733
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 5: of the NFC, they are the class of the NFC

1734
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 5: because their quarterback situation is a little more settled, I

1735
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 5: think than San Francisco's and I think they now have

1736
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 5: this chip on their shoulder which shuts up very nicely

1737
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 5: for this season. So I'm more of a forward thinking person,

1738
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 5: and I I it's close. It's close, Brian, But I

1739
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 5: think the Super Bowl we got and the future of

1740
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 5: the league, especially in the NFC with the Eagles now

1741
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 5: being this dominant team, I think is a better storyline

1742
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:33,719
Speaker 5: long term.

1743
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, there's no argument against going forward like that.

1744
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 2: Phil would have been literally one and done right.

1745
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 1: One quickie and out.

1746
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 2: But for that one game and that one storyline there

1747
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 2: is it would have been good in history of the

1748
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 2: NFL that would come.

1749
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 1: They would have got.

1750
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 5: I don't know if Phil would have been able to

1751
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 5: keep up like to meet Jalen Hurts running the ball

1752
01:31:58,600 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 5: and his mobility in that game.

1753
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: Again the Chiefs was the big reason they stayed in

1754
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: that game.

1755
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 3: But it's a completely different offense though.

1756
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 4: If you think about you know, Jalen Hurts, what he's

1757
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 4: reliant on to do is to run the football as

1758
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 4: effectively as he passes it. I mean, Philip Rivers, he

1759
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 4: would have been back there distributing dimes. You would assume

1760
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 4: to Christian McCaffrey and.

1761
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 5: George to defend though, right, you get two weeks to

1762
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 5: defend that, to defend that.

1763
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 2: It's not the Bears out there. The Chiefs are not

1764
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 2: the eighty five Bears.

1765
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, their defense I mean.

1766
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 2: And no pass pretty good that No one was good

1767
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 2: in that game. There was no heat on those quarterbacks

1768
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 2: with the field being the way it was.

1769
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a strange game actually to be to

1770
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 5: be fair, I think the field conditions probably would have

1771
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 5: favored of Philip rivers pass.

1772
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, the iron iron deer would have been

1773
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 2: distributing back there.

1774
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Now yeah, I mean you get all

1775
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 3: the juices are flown.

1776
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 4: It would have been fun because also you got to

1777
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 4: remember Philip, he's a bit of a gamer man. Like

1778
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 4: crash talking Phil out there. I mean it would have

1779
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 4: been a blast. But yeah, like these are the things

1780
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 4: that are unique to the quarterback position, maybe that you're

1781
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 4: not going to You're not going to talk about a

1782
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 4: forty year old, two year retired offensive lineman, you know,

1783
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 4: like hey, or.

1784
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 5: Even Eric Weddle, which was a fantastic story but didn't

1785
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 5: slap the same.

1786
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 4: No, did not, Yes, exactly correct. I mean, very very

1787
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 4: cool story, amazing finish to what may warn him a

1788
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame bid in its own right. It's just

1789
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 4: it's just different when it's a gunslinger coming back for

1790
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 4: one last hurrah.

1791
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 2: Crazy, no doubt about that at all. Crazy. It's a

1792
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 2: crazy storyline. And it didn't even happen. I know, I

1793
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 2: like imagine if it did happen.

1794
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: Second, something that didn't even happen, you know.

1795
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 2: Welcome to sports radio. Sometimes So we've got rich Orenberger,

1796
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:59,799
Speaker 2: Penn State All American, a master spokesperson for various products

1797
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:03,919
Speaker 2: in the San Diego area. We've got Jared Smith FSR,

1798
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 2: betting analyst, the proud owner of Jackpot, who is on

1799
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 2: the making right now.

1800
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 5: Actually, no, he came in and he's sleeping on the couch.

1801
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 2: Look at that. We're talking well behaved. Look at the

1802
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 2: strides old Jackpot. It's making. And I learned something from

1803
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 2: the mean streets of North Carolina. Huh, didn't know that before.

1804
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 2: But there was a tweaky through out there.

1805
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 3: Very nice.

1806
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 5: So he was rescued from He was rescued by an

1807
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 5: organization that takes in dogs from various parts of the

1808
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 5: country and then shipped them to New Jersey, which is

1809
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 5: where the shelter is located. And Jackpot was rescued from

1810
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 5: North Carolina and then shipped up to New Jersey to

1811
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 5: me there now I'm in Vegas. He has seen the

1812
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 5: world in his two years of a half years of life.

1813
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm Brian.

1814
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 5: No.

1815
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 2: I was babysitting two cats, but we have moved there.

1816
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 5: What happened to the cats?

1817
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 2: They're still back in Champagne. But but but good news.

1818
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 3: The Uh.

1819
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 2: The owners of the home. They reached out to us

1820
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 2: and said, hey, if you're in town, just stop on by.

1821
01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 2: You can see the cats. Cato made my day. Made

1822
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 2: my day with Hey, we're just strolling by Champagne. You

1823
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 2: mind if we visit the cat I mean visit you.

1824
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 2: You know we have to play it off.

1825
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,839
Speaker 1: Like take the cats out for like a nipping.

1826
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:13,520
Speaker 2: That's right, all right, come it up next. He looked good,

1827
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 2: but looks can be deceiving. It's Fox Sports Saturday here

1828
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, it is Fox Sports Saturday

1829
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 2: live from the Tireck dot Com studios here on Fox

1830
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. I'll tell you what. If I'm in a

1831
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 2: bad mood, just throwing some peade Pablo for me, huh,

1832
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 2: the North Carolina, I'll just be like, you know what,

1833
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 2: it's not that bad. You know, I'll get a new dog,

1834
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 2: you know whatever.

1835
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,480
Speaker 1: I just got Why he's playing North Carolina?

1836
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 5: Man, Iowa, you are your your your your knowledge of

1837
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 5: geography is just genius.

1838
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 2: Uh, it's on top of his game. That's how he

1839
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 2: gets down that Iowa Sam, how about this, We're gonna

1840
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 2: take you to Green Bay. It doesn't really have the

1841
01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: same you know, same thing there as North Carolina now,

1842
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 2: but definitely how about Jordan Love. Jordan Love last night

1843
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 2: Packers quarterback statline is pretty good. Was seven for ten

1844
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 2: forty six yards touchdown. It's only two drives. But what

1845
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 2: stands out is, you know, if you look into it

1846
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 2: a little bit more, if you just watch Sports Center,

1847
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 2: you see a nice touchdown throw Romeo Dobbs back of

1848
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 2: the end zone, tight coverage. It's like, okay, nice Jordan Love.

1849
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 2: But as head coach Matt Lafleur pointed out something, he

1850
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 2: threw a deep ball and it was broken up by

1851
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 2: the safety DA's Hill, and Lafleur said, it did look

1852
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 2: like an accurate ball, but what can he do to

1853
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 2: maybe hold that safety just another step so we can't

1854
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 2: make a play on that ball. So he's talking about

1855
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 2: the details, right, the nuances where with your eyes you

1856
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,719
Speaker 2: hold that safety a little longer, you deliver the same

1857
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: ball and it's a a deep shot, it's a thirty

1858
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: plus yard gain. So those are the little things that

1859
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 2: you sometimes losing the shuffle of the hysteria of man,

1860
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 2: this guy look good. Look at that touchdown throw. It's

1861
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 2: on SportsCenter, nice and you're thinking this might be Okay, well,

1862
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 2: you know the nuances and also the fact that they

1863
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 2: were facing mostly backups. That's why I would I proceed

1864
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 2: with caution here. I wouldn't be exactly giddy just yet

1865
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 2: for Jordan Love taking over for Aaron Rodgers. That's just me, though.

1866
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 2: Where do you guys come out on that?

1867
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 4: I forget the movie that this is from. But there

1868
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 4: are layers to this, right, you know, this isn't This

1869
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:45,799
Speaker 4: isn't Uh, we're not talking about rudimentary you know, addition, subtraction, division,

1870
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 4: multiplication mathematics. When it comes to NFL quarterbacking, it goes

1871
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 4: as deep as you want it to go, or as

1872
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 4: you're capable of going. I mean to the point where,

1873
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 4: you know, looking off of safety, I mean, this is

1874
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 4: stuff that's being done at college level, sure, you know.

1875
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 4: I mean you're opening up throwing lanes with your eyes.

1876
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 4: Is things that they are now teaching high school quarterbacks

1877
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 4: at the seven on seven level, you know. So, I

1878
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 4: mean we're not talking about something that's all that advanced really,

1879
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 4: you know, when when you're talking about exotic blitz that

1880
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 4: are game plan specifically for a quarterback or for an

1881
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 4: offense to exploit pass protections or to exploit, you know,

1882
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,759
Speaker 4: personnel alignments on the field.

1883
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 3: You know, maybe maybe.

1884
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 4: There's a team that likes to go three receivers into

1885
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 4: the boundary, meaning when you're on one hash, you have

1886
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 4: a shorter field to defend. So it means you could

1887
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 4: send an overload blitz from that side of the field

1888
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 4: and get a safety rotation to cover up for you know,

1889
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 4: some of what you're going to be missing by sending

1890
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 4: more off edge. Like those are the sort of things

1891
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,640
Speaker 4: that now you're getting into the nuance. Now you're really starting.

1892
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 3: To to you know, take a part a.

1893
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 4: Team based on tendencies or weaknesses of a quarterback or

1894
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 4: ability to get the ball out under pressure or whatever.

1895
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 5: It may be.

1896
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 4: Like like they are still in my mind with Jordan

1897
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 4: Love stuck on like Aaron Rodgers' rookie year, you know

1898
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like because he or Aaron Rodgers year three,

1899
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 4: but with a maybe with a less talented player out

1900
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 4: the shoot. It doesn't mean that he can't in ten

1901
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 4: years be where Aaron Rodgers is now. It doesn't mean

1902
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 4: that maybe he has potential to overtake what Aaron Rodgers

1903
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 4: has done in this league. But right now they're in

1904
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 4: Green Bay man, they're starting from scratch, and so it's

1905
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 4: going to be a long road to where they were

1906
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 4: when Aaron was the signal caller.

1907
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think they want him to be Aaron Rodgers.

1908
01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 5: I don't think he can be so Like, if that's

1909
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 5: the goal, Hey, we need you to get up to

1910
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 5: the Aaron Rodgers level really quick, Well, they're they're gonna

1911
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 5: fall short.

1912
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 1: Of that goal.

1913
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 5: I think the Packers, in my opinion, the identity is

1914
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 5: going to change this year. I think it already started

1915
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 5: to change last year. Let's be honest, Aaron Rodgers didn't

1916
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 5: have a great year through a ton of picks, red

1917
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 5: zone interceptions, very uncharacteristic, made a ton of mistakes that

1918
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 5: made him, frankly look a little rookie ish. I think

1919
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 5: the Packers' success this year is twofold one. Sure, they

1920
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,679
Speaker 5: need progression from Jordan Love throughout the season. He needs

1921
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 5: to improve. That's obvious. But maybe what's not obvious is

1922
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 5: the rest of this Packers team. Let's be honest. This

1923
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 5: is an offensive line that returns all five starters from

1924
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,600
Speaker 5: a unit that was top ten last year. Now they

1925
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 5: were a very banged up unit. Back to Aari and

1926
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 5: Jenkins and those guys need to stay healthy. Can't really

1927
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,719
Speaker 5: predict the injury luck, but the talent in a vacuum

1928
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 5: is a top ten offensive line. I think the defense

1929
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 5: is fantastic. Kenny Clark and Preston Smith are elite up front.

1930
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 5: They just got with Sean Gary back from pup off

1931
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 5: the ACL and the secondary has jay r Alexander, who

1932
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 5: might be one of the best cover corners in the league,

1933
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 5: and Rasull Douglas, who's a pretty darn good number two.

1934
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 5: My point being, I don't think the identity of the

1935
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 5: Packers is well Jordan love better win us this game

1936
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 5: like Aaron Rodgers would. I think it's more Jordan, don't

1937
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 5: lose us the game because there's enough talent with this

1938
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:28,679
Speaker 5: Packers team. Frankly, I think they're the most talented team

1939
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 5: top to bottom in the division. I really like the

1940
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 5: other pieces, so just don't screw it up, Jordan, and

1941
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 5: I think things will be okay in Green Bay this year.

1942
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 2: I think this This reminds me of me. Okay, this

1943
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 2: reminds me of the last two places we've lived. So

1944
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 2: my girl and I we rented a house, as you know,

1945
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 2: in Champagne, Illinois for three months and it was nice.

1946
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,440
Speaker 2: And now we've moved to a different place in Peoria, Illinois.

1947
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 2: We'll be here for two months. Radio Vagabond, What can

1948
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 2: I tell you?

1949
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 3: Right?

1950
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 2: But the point is this. When we moved into the

1951
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,639
Speaker 2: new place, the latest one, you notice all the things

1952
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 2: that are nice with it, like, oh, man, look at

1953
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 2: this ceiling. That's really nice. It's some engineering right there,

1954
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 2: very cool. And oh look at this, it's a nice place.

1955
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 2: But after a couple of weeks you notice everything that

1956
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 2: this current place doesn't have that the last place. Did

1957
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 2: you notice, Oh man, we don't have a garage, we

1958
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 2: don't have a grill, we don't have a lake, or

1959
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 2: cats or little things like door water where you just

1960
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 2: go up to the to the that's what I call it.

1961
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 2: You put your glass up to the thing and you

1962
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 2: get the water and boom, we're in business. It's just

1963
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 2: bottled water now for us. So that's the way I

1964
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 2: think this year plays out for the Packers is right now, hey,

1965
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 2: we got this defense, and when we got this running game,

1966
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 2: and you're gonna find out real quickly. Man. Having a

1967
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 2: top quarterback to throw touchdown passes and critical moments of

1968
01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 2: the game kind of important. I kind of missed that

1969
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 2: right here without Aaron Rodgers, with Jordan Love, and Rogers

1970
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,640
Speaker 2: took a step back, there's no doubt. But for his standards,

1971
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 2: twenty six touchdowns twelve picks was like, oh gosh, what

1972
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 2: double digit interceptions? That hardly ever happens with Aaron Rodgers.

1973
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 2: They would kill If Jordan Love puts up twenty six

1974
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 2: and twelve this year, I think they're gonna be a

1975
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 2: lot like the Patriots, where it's play effective defense, run

1976
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 2: the ball effectively, sprinkle in the passing game, but don't

1977
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 2: rely on it as heavily as some other teams do.

1978
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,839
Speaker 2: That's their formula for success, but it gives you a small,

1979
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:40,720
Speaker 2: limited range of margin for error. And that's where I

1980
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 2: think the Packers are this year. And look, they have

1981
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,679
Speaker 2: talent defensively, but they've been underachieving. And if they've got

1982
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 2: to rely on the defense the running game, they're the

1983
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 2: Patriots of the NFC. That's how I see it shaping

1984
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 2: up for them this season.

1985
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 4: When you look back on Aaron rodgers year last year,

1986
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 4: it's a lot easier to credit some of the early

1987
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 4: season issues to his young receiving corps than it is

1988
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 4: to Aaron Rodgers, because we've come to expect great things

1989
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 4: from Aaron Rodgers, and he's been the common denominator for

1990
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 4: a lot of success in Green Bay, you know, and

1991
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:21,759
Speaker 4: kind of the same thing going on with Russell Wilson

1992
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 4: in Denver.

1993
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 3: You know, last year was an aberrant year.

1994
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 4: He's been pretty good his entire season, and then he

1995
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 4: goes and he works with Nathaniel Hackett and he looks

1996
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 4: like a completely different quarterback. So we're willing to give

1997
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 4: quarterbacks like a Russell Wilson the benefit of the doubt.

1998
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:38,879
Speaker 3: We'll blame Nathaniel Hackett.

1999
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 4: We're willing to give Aaron Rodgers the benefit of the doubt,

2000
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 4: will blame the young receiving corps. We're not gonna do

2001
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 4: that with Jordan Love, and neither will these coaches. These

2002
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 4: coaches are going to look at his stat line, or

2003
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 4: really not his stat line, but they're gonna look at

2004
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 4: the film and they're gonna say, all right, who do

2005
01:44:55,720 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 4: we trust more here? Jordan Love or the the veteran

2006
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 4: running back Jordan Love or the these receivers this offensive

2007
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 4: line seeing it through their collective lens, or Jordan Love.

2008
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 4: In terms of pass protection and things that need to

2009
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 4: get done on the field, Like, he's got a lot

2010
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 4: to prove still, so if he struggles, a lot of

2011
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 4: the blame is going to be placed on him. Like, yeah,

2012
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 4: Aaron used to bail us out here, and the reason

2013
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 4: why we can't get to x or Y is because

2014
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 4: he's not mentally capable of getting us to x or Y.

2015
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:30,679
Speaker 4: We've got to wait for his maturation process to take place.

2016
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 4: Some teams have a lot of grace that they're able

2017
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 4: to give a quarterback Matt Lafleur. I mean, let's face it,

2018
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 4: an underwhelming season last year, the final season of Aaron

2019
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 4: Rodgers tenure in Green Bay. We'll see what happens this

2020
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 4: upcoming season, but we know what NFL stands.

2021
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 3: For, not for long. So if Jordan Love all of.

2022
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:55,719
Speaker 4: A sudden doesn't look like a suitable replacement for Aaron Rodgers,

2023
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 4: the person that they're going to start coming down on

2024
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 4: is Lafloor.

2025
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:02,759
Speaker 3: They're gonna start.

2026
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 4: Saying, well, oh well, maybe we need to make a

2027
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 4: change at coach.

2028
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 3: That's how these things work.

2029
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 5: There's a big year for the floor it is. I

2030
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:14,400
Speaker 5: don't think there's any doubt about that, and I think

2031
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 5: it kind of it kind of puts you on an

2032
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 5: island when you don't have the guy that can kind

2033
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 5: of bail you out, And a lot of that makes sense.

2034
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,799
Speaker 5: And we're different, like I from. Based on this conversation,

2035
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 5: it's obvious that the three of us, I'm on a

2036
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 5: very different side of the Packers train than you two are,

2037
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 5: and that's good because it's gonna give us some healthy,

2038
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 5: healthy competition to keep up with. This year, I think

2039
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 5: I'm higher on Green Bay than most are, and I

2040
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 5: think it's because of the rest of the roster, and

2041
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 5: I think, overall, and I'm looking at some numbers that

2042
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 5: backed this up macro wise, quarterback play and offense in

2043
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 5: the league has taken a dip in recent years. Last

2044
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 5: year was the lowest points per game we've had since

2045
01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen, and it's just I think, over we're all

2046
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 5: quarterback play in the league. We had this explosion of

2047
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 5: rule changes and offense and quarterbacks and air raids, and

2048
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 5: now we're starting to see the regression a little bit.

2049
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 5: The defenses are catching up, the schemes are changing a

2050
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 5: little bit, there's more on tape, and let's be honest,

2051
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 5: the quarterback play, I think is a little bit diluted

2052
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 5: compared to what we've seen in prior years. I don't

2053
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 5: know if there's as many great quarterbacks as there were

2054
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 5: a few years ago. I think that list is dwindling.

2055
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 5: There's a lot more average ones today that are getting overpaid,

2056
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:35,600
Speaker 5: like Dak Prescott's first one that comes to mind, but

2057
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 5: not producing at the level that we expect them to.

2058
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 5: I think Jordan Love at the end of the year

2059
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 5: is going to be one of those average to mediocre

2060
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the league. And I think if the rest

2061
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 5: of the roster for Green Bay plays above expectation, I

2062
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 5: think it's gonna be a better year. Because if we

2063
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 5: keep talking, all I hear in the offseason is how

2064
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 5: the Jets are overvalued because Aaron Rodgers comes there and

2065
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 5: now everyone thinks they're gonna win the Super Bowl. Well,

2066
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 5: if the Jets are overvalued for gaining Aaron Rodgers in

2067
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 5: terms of the market perception, then the inverse has to

2068
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 5: be true. The Packers have to be undervalued losing him,

2069
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 5: because we're overvaluing what Rogers means.

2070
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 1: Now.

2071
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm ready to do that yet,

2072
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 5: but last year was not a great season for him.

2073
01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 5: You want to blame the receiver shore. You want to

2074
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:20,759
Speaker 5: blame the four shore. He had a very healthy offensive

2075
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 5: line and a very productive offensive line, really more productive

2076
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 5: than healthy, and he had a really good defense in

2077
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 5: a really good running game, and he didn't get the

2078
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 5: job done in big spots.

2079
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:30,759
Speaker 1: And I'm curious.

2080
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 5: I hope the Jets are fantastic with him this year,

2081
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 5: but I'm still skeptical and I'm a little more optimistic.

2082
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 5: I guess with Jordan Love.

2083
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 2: Here's let me say this real fast. They didn't think

2084
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,640
Speaker 2: about it this way until you said that, Jared. So

2085
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 2: if you don't like this, I blame you.

2086
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 5: Okay, it's fair.

2087
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 2: It's it's easier for a quarterback to prop up the

2088
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 2: rest of the roster than it is for the rest

2089
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:53,839
Speaker 2: of the roster to prop up the quarterback. It's easier

2090
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 2: saying it can't. It's just easier. Look at Tom Brady

2091
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 2: going to Tampa, took over a seven to nineteen. They

2092
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl the first year he was there, Right, So,

2093
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 2: if you look at it that way, quarterback is the

2094
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 2: sports bra of the sports world. Okay, that's what it is.

2095
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 2: It boosts everything up and you look and you're like, wow,

2096
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 2: look at this, Like that's what the quarterback can do

2097
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 2: for the rest of the roster. And then sometimes when

2098
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 2: you eliminate the push up braw you're like, what's going

2099
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,680
Speaker 2: on here? Like that's the way it can work. And

2100
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 2: that's what I wonder about with the Packers this season.

2101
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 2: If they don't have a better quarterback play, think about this,

2102
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 2: the Steelers. The standard is the standard. We've had three

2103
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 2: decades of studley quarterback play with the Green Bay Packers,

2104
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 2: and so to not have that, to have something worse

2105
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 2: than they had with Rogers twenty six and twelve in

2106
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 2: an eight to nine non playoff year, I just have

2107
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 2: a hard time seeing the rest of the roster boosting

2108
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 2: the quarterback position when it's easier the other way around. Yeah,

2109
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 2: but what's the go ahead? Richard, Mike, I'm sorry, Mike.

2110
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 4: Tomlin looked at pointed out he looked a lot better

2111
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 4: when Ben Roethlisberger or right, that's a great quarterback. Bill

2112
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 4: Belichick looked a lot better with Tom Brady.

2113
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2114
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 4: It's it's rare that a head coach, you know, who's

2115
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 4: considered great, runs into a period of time where he's

2116
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 4: working with a blow average quarterback.

2117
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 3: And you're like, oh, you know what.

2118
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 4: No, he's still great, Like quarterbacks cure a lot of

2119
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 4: what al's a football team, not just an offense, and

2120
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 4: so man a big year for Matt Laflor.

2121
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 5: I agree with your with your sentiment. But we don't

2122
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:39,440
Speaker 5: know Jordan Love's acumen yet. He hasn't played like that.

2123
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 5: That cat Jordan Love might be better than all of them,

2124
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 5: don't That's I love this.

2125
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 2: We don't know. He's thrown eighty three passes in his

2126
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 2: NFL career. He's throwing to all these first or second

2127
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 2: year guys, Like, what do you think that's gonna turn

2128
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 2: out to be? Is that gonna be just production on fire?

2129
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 5: Like I don't, I don't. I honestly, Jordan Love, like

2130
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 5: you just said, the quarterback raises the game of everyone

2131
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 5: around him. If Jordan Love is great, he will make

2132
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:11,600
Speaker 5: those first and second year guys look pretty good. And

2133
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 5: the expectation is the expectations. The win total the Packers

2134
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 5: is seven and a half. They won eight games last

2135
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 5: year with a below average season from Aaron Rodgers. I

2136
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:24,640
Speaker 5: think an average season from Jordan Love, they can get

2137
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 5: to eight wins again this year.

2138
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 2: I give you, I'll give you a great stat around

2139
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:33,679
Speaker 2: the corner first, though, the great Isaac loewen Kron spinning

2140
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 2: us around the sporting world in freaking style. Baby, I loo,

2141
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 2: what's going on?

2142
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 12: Speaking of spinning? Did I hear what I think I

2143
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:43,839
Speaker 12: just heard? The phrase?

2144
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 8: A quarterback is the sports?

2145
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 3: I sed it up.

2146
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, here's the thing. That's what I meant

2147
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 2: to say. The quarterback is the push up brad of

2148
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 2: But it's freaking Oh, that's exactly.

2149
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 3: What it is.

2150
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 1: I love it, bro I love it.

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Speaker 8: If only John Facenda was it?

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Speaker 5: So what was the man bra then in Seinfeld?

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Speaker 8: What was that?

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Speaker 12: I don't remember that particular.

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Speaker 3: Onstead of the.

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Speaker 1: Iowa Sam for the save.

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Speaker 8: The push up broke very You're like, we got into

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Speaker 8: a whole separate genre here. We start with talking about

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Speaker 8: those quarterbacks. Because in the NFL preseason on Friday Night,

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Speaker 8: the Washington Commanders won in Cleveland seventeen to fifteen. Cleveland

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Speaker 8: rookie quarterback Dorian Thompson Robinson completed nine of ten for

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Speaker 8: one h two and a touchdown Arizona over Denver eighteen

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Speaker 8: to seventeen. Russell Wilson did play in this game. He

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Speaker 8: completed seven of thirteen for ninety three yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 8: Jordan Love completing seven of ten for forty six yards

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Speaker 8: and a touchdown in Green Bay's thirty six to nineteen

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Speaker 8: win at Cincinnati and the quarterfinals of the Women's World Cup.

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Speaker 8: Ghost Nation Australia advanced to the semi finals with an

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Speaker 8: epic penalty kick shootout went over France. The shootout went

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Speaker 8: ten rounds before Australia won seven to six. It was

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Speaker 8: the longest shootout in World Cup history, Men's or women's,

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Speaker 8: a total of twenty penalty kicks. Despite the dramatic victory,

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Speaker 8: Australia head coach Tony Gustavson was stoic and composed moments

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Speaker 8: after the match.

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Speaker 13: I'm so freaking proud about this team, the bravery that

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Speaker 13: they showed tonight.

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Speaker 12: It's not about the medal iron your neck.

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Speaker 13: It's about the hawk beating on the back side of it,

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Speaker 13: and the hawk that beat it tonight. In this team

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Speaker 13: and in this country, unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: England then defeated Columbia two to one. In Major League

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Speaker 8: Baseball on Friday night, at the Los Angeles Dodgers defeated

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Speaker 8: the Colorado Rockies six to one. The Dodgers on a

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Speaker 8: six game winning streak. The Seattle Mariners over the Baltimore

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Speaker 8: Orioles nine to two. Seattle now on an eight game

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Speaker 8: winning streak. How hard is it to win eighth straight

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Speaker 8: games in the Major leagues?

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Speaker 3: Super hard?

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Speaker 12: Fella's back to you.

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Speaker 2: I do like hard.

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Speaker 5: You guys are a lead at this By the way,

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Speaker 5: I am working with the best of the best, in

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Speaker 5: the best of the bet.

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Speaker 1: This is the You guys are the professor.

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Speaker 5: You get the mahomes of the radio industry here.

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Speaker 2: Very nice of you. We've got Rich Orenberger, high end spokesperson,

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Speaker 2: also Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

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Speaker 2: I'm bron coming up. We've got a studeley trio here,

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Speaker 2: a tremendous stat tremendous audio, and hopefully some tremendous picks

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Speaker 2: to earn you some money today. That's all on the way.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Ellie Daily Cruz.

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Speaker 1: He swings and hooks the line drive.

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Speaker 14: Down the right field line, that drops fair and it's

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Speaker 14: into the corner. Here comes Friedle around to score. McLain

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Speaker 14: getting the wave. Here comes the relay throw. It goes

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Speaker 14: to third Dayly Cruz dives in safely with a two

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Speaker 14: run triple to put the Reds on top.

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Speaker 2: Oh, welcome back in. It's Fox Sports Saturday Live from

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Speaker 2: the call as the Reds try to keep up with

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Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers who are leading the NL Central. Hey,

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Speaker 2: top of the hour, keep it locked right here up

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Speaker 2: on game TJ Hushman, Zada, Plexico, Burus, You're in great hands.

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Speaker 2: Props to the crew today, both Benson, our trusted producer

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Speaker 2: Iowa Sam technical producer Isaac Loewenkron on the updates doing

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Speaker 2: a tremendous job. So I thought of you, Jared and

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Speaker 2: your Jets. This was a little video mashup that Bleacher

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Speaker 2: Report put together. Some thing uh Jets predictions from the

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Speaker 2: Jets faithful. Try these on for size.

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Speaker 3: This one's not really a hot take, but the Jets

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Speaker 3: are going to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Not God, not really. I take though, nut They're gonna win.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's like the first episode.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what team is on Hard Knocks, they're

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Speaker 5: winning the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There's also this. This is even hotter.

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Speaker 3: I'm a diehard Jets fan.

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Speaker 5: Forty nine Ers and Jets in the Super Bowl twenty

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Speaker 5: four to seventeen, Jets win.

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Speaker 3: CJ. Moseley at the MVP.

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Speaker 2: CJ.

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Speaker 1: Moseley, MBA, let's have a linebacker?

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Speaker 5: Was the MVP of the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Linebacker Nola's you'd go back to? I think it was

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Speaker 2: Malcolm Smith with the Seahawks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the broad and that was what like the forty

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Speaker 5: six to ten game.

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Speaker 2: That yeah, yeah, forty three eight yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then there's this starts off with the Dolphins fan.

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Speaker 5: Jets worse than the Patriots this year, nothing new because

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Speaker 5: they're used to losing.

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Speaker 3: My son's an idiot sixteen and one.

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Speaker 5: Someone's gonna be eating dinner around the ball outside tonight.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, before we get to our picks, here, here's the

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Speaker 2: tremendous stat this is working against your twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: Packers Jared. Here's the deal. So the wide receivers and

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Speaker 2: the tight ends that Jordan Love will be throwing to,

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Speaker 2: they have an average age of twenty three point four

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Speaker 2: years old. Very young. We're talking first and second year

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Speaker 2: guys mostly. And so if you go all the way

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Speaker 2: back to nineteen ninety, this would be the second youngest

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Speaker 2: core of wide receivers and tight ends to throw to.

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Speaker 2: Then the twenty seventeen Browns who went oh to sixteen, Like, hey.

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Speaker 1: Who's their offensive line and their defense?

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Speaker 5: Though in that in those teams.

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Speaker 2: That sure it matters. But Deshaun Kaiser, who is the quarterback,

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Speaker 2: then if he's throwing to experience guys, and if he's

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Speaker 2: thrown to the Bengals cast of wide receivers, Listen, we've

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Speaker 2: already exisit.

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Speaker 5: The year for us is going to be the Packers

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Speaker 5: win total seven and a half. That is our side

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Speaker 5: bed of the season.

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Speaker 3: It's a big one. I'm in.

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Speaker 2: I'm in. You just let know what you want to lose.

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Speaker 5: Clearly entrenched on the over. Is Ormberger gonna be the

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Speaker 5: the third settler here. You're gonna pase push on seven half.

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Speaker 5: Want to go against the champion of the pick segment

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Speaker 5: last year and out down.

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Speaker 1: The kick off.

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Speaker 2: That could happen. By the way, if you push on

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Speaker 2: seven and a half. I know Vegas doesn't look at

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Speaker 2: it that way, but if you look at the Giants

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Speaker 2: seven one and a half, they technically had nine and

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Speaker 2: a half wins, right because the tie is a half

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Speaker 2: a win, half.

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Speaker 3: A half a win, it's a share of a win. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Good point.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Jared, what is Vegas? If you took

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Speaker 2: let's just say the Giants it was nine and a

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Speaker 2: half was their win total and they went nine to

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Speaker 2: seven and one, they would look at that as a loss,

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Speaker 2: you would they would stay under even though the league

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Speaker 2: looks at it as nine and a half wins.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Vegas in the game. The gambling markets are very

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Speaker 5: black and white. There is no room for gray area.

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Speaker 5: And nine wins is nine wins. Nine and a half

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Speaker 5: means you need to get to ten in order to

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Speaker 5: win the bet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we go rapid fire style. Let's get

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Speaker 2: some bicks in here, Jared. We'll start with you Brewers.

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Speaker 2: Do the Packers right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, I won't do the Packers.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned the Brewers kind of be in that pace

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Speaker 5: center in the in the Nlcentra. They get Brandon Woodriff back.

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Speaker 5: He looked great the other night. He starts again today

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Speaker 5: in Chicago. I'll take the Nerfey in that game. Jesse

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Speaker 5: schlotlet's uh for Chicago an opener. I love when openers

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Speaker 5: start first inning. Usually they come in, they throw beb's,

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Speaker 5: and then they leave the game after an inning or two,

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Speaker 5: and then the yes run first inning with the Dodgers

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Speaker 5: game as a muss plate tonight, Peter Lambert's numbers have

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Speaker 5: not been good, and Tony Gonsolin's trending down, and I

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Speaker 5: think this Dodgers team is due for a breakout. They've

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Speaker 5: gone like five straight games without scoring a run in

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Speaker 5: the first inning, and they have the best first inning

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Speaker 5: run scoring rate in all of baseball.

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Speaker 1: So Dodgers, Rockies, yes run first inning.

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Speaker 3: All right, I got Indiana.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, Indianapolis three and a half over the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 5: I like.

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Speaker 4: I like Andrew rich Anthony Richardson rather as a great

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Speaker 4: offensive elixir. Shane Stiken needs to show this team what

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Speaker 4: it means to win again Alan and digs out on

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Speaker 4: the other side.

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Speaker 2: All right, you give me three seconds. Angels lose and

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Speaker 2: Trey Turner gets a hit, go back out,