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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: We are joined by Republican Senator and presidential candidate Tim Scott.

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Speaker 2: Senator Scott, good to have you back on the program, Sir.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much, Thank you both for having

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Speaker 3: me back. Excited to be back.

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Speaker 2: So we want to talk to you, obviously about the

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Speaker 2: race and all of that. You know in a moment here,

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Speaker 2: how it's going running for president and all that. But

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Speaker 2: I did want to start, if I could, with your

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Speaker 2: reaction to the Supreme Court ruling today on admissions and

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Speaker 2: the use of race as a factor. What are your

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Speaker 2: biggest takeaway, Senator, I.

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Speaker 3: Think the biggest takeaway from me is that progress in

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Speaker 3: America is palpable. We can literally feel the progress in

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Speaker 3: the air. I thank God Almighty that the story of

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Speaker 3: America is not the story of an original sin. It

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Speaker 3: is a story of redemption. We see that playing out

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Speaker 3: every single day as we continue to strive towards a

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Speaker 3: more perfect union. And frankly, today is better than yesterday.

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Speaker 3: This year is better than last year, this decade is

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Speaker 3: better than last decade. So Judging people on the content

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Speaker 3: of their character, not the color of their skin, is

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Speaker 3: what I consider being an American.

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Speaker 1: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: And so when you actually look at this, there are

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Speaker 4: overwhelming majorities of Americans who agree with you. We were

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Speaker 4: talking about that earlier in the program, even a majority

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Speaker 4: of Democrats. And certainly I'm sure you've seen the vote

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Speaker 4: that happened in California in twenty twenty two which shot

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Speaker 4: down affirmative action as well. Why do you think the

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Speaker 4: far left wing of the Democrat Party has so taken

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Speaker 4: over that argument on their behalf when it doesn't even

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Speaker 4: represent what their own party believes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the things that we have to get

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Speaker 3: uncomfortable with. We need to be uncomfortable with the fact

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Speaker 3: that the Democrats and the radical left are willing to

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Speaker 3: use finies race as a weapon for power, not thinking

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Speaker 3: about progress. And why I say we need to be

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Speaker 3: uncomfortable is that conservatives are specifically conservatives like myself. We

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Speaker 3: need to be stepping out and speaking up about the

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Speaker 3: importance of the American journey. The less continue to look

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Speaker 3: in the rear view mirror of life and look for

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Speaker 3: ways to bring up our painful past and to posit

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Speaker 3: to the American people that this is our future. The

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Speaker 3: good news is that the people in California reject that premise,

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Speaker 3: and the entire nation rejects that premise. Can we measure

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Speaker 3: progress or must we resign ourselves living in the past.

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Speaker 3: Americans have decided we're going to live in the future

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Speaker 3: and in the presence, not in the past. And let

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Speaker 3: me just say this. I understand the importance of progress

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Speaker 3: from a racial It's one of the reasons why I

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Speaker 3: celebrate the progress that we have seen in this country.

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Speaker 3: My grandfather's America is very different than my mother's America,

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Speaker 3: and my mother's America improved so much. For my America.

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Speaker 3: The good news is we are serious about perfecting this union.

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Speaker 3: But the Democrats and the frankly the radical left, they're

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Speaker 3: so drunk on power, they're so interested in control that

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Speaker 3: they sometimes weaponize very sensitive issues of race or gender

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Speaker 3: and say, you can't be black if you don't vote

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Speaker 3: for a Democrat, you can't be a woman, you don't

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Speaker 3: vote for a Democrat. That's just a lie.

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Speaker 2: Speaking the Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, he's running

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Speaker 2: for president and senator.

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Speaker 1: With that in mind, I wanted to ask.

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Speaker 2: You You know, there are a bunch of different candidates

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Speaker 2: now on the Republican side, but Donald Trump is far

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Speaker 2: out ahead in in the polls, certainly on the national polls.

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Speaker 2: Why are you the best candidate in this race? In

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Speaker 2: this competition? You know, I mean, you're a guy that

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Speaker 2: you Republican colleagues have a tremendous amount of respect for,

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Speaker 2: and I think your story about just your vision of

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Speaker 2: America is very, very compelling. But why are you, Senator

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Speaker 2: the best option to be the next commander in chief

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Speaker 3: Well? Number one, I think I'm the most likely candidate

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Speaker 3: one of the things that we've found out on the

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Speaker 3: positive message with a backbone and anchored in the conservative

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Speaker 3: and live my American dream. In order for that to

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Speaker 3: CRETI it opportunities, and protect the America that we love

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Speaker 3: that starts with our southern border. I will say without

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Speaker 3: any question, I have worked on legislation as the legislator,

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Speaker 3: flow of sentinel across our southern border leading to the

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Speaker 3: to exist as an existential threat to more than seventy

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Speaker 4: We're talking to Senator Tim Scott. Senator, you've gotten ripped

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Speaker 4: quite a lot. I think the last time we had

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Speaker 4: Barack Obama basically taking shots at you too, or President,

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Speaker 4: What did you think about that?

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Speaker 3: Well, the highest compliment that a Republican can get when

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Speaker 3: they when they pull out former President Obama, the most

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Speaker 3: being too positive, for being unrealistic about what America can

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Speaker 3: The good news is the truth of my life disrupts

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Speaker 3: their narrative and disproves their lives. He came out because

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Speaker 3: as my numbers continue to increase, as my visibility becomes stronger,

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Speaker 3: people see me as the most likely candidate to beat

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden, and they want to stop me in my tracks.

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Speaker 3: So I look at it as a high compliment that

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Speaker 3: they're bringing out their best and their brightest.

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Speaker 2: Senator Scott, what would be the centerpiece you will, or

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Speaker 2: perhaps the central message of the economy that you'd preside

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Speaker 3: Well number one, we would do everything that Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: honest with you, his decisions print and spend four trillion

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Speaker 3: for the average American family of ten thousand dollars in

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Speaker 3: less than two years. I would do exactly the opposite.

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Speaker 3: I would turn to spigot off. We stop printing and

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Speaker 3: and dictators and bullies for oil and gas. We would

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Speaker 3: do it ourselves in America. We would lower taxes because

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Speaker 3: Biden increased those taxes. We would make permanent the tax

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Speaker 3: two trillion dollars of tax cuts. We would make those permanent.

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Speaker 3: And we would make sure that every child in every

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Speaker 4: Building on that last part, we talk a lot about

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Speaker 4: college and university. Everybody has a choice about where they

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Speaker 4: get admitted. You can apply lots of different places. Why

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Speaker 3: So word that comes to my mind is hypocrisy. There

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Speaker 3: are better words us than that one, but let's just

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Speaker 3: you said it so well. These are the same folks

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Speaker 3: who believe in PELL grants for private schools for any

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Speaker 3: the PELL grants for college. Why not arm every single

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Speaker 2: Senator Scott, what is your feeling on the Biden administration

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Speaker 2: approach to the war in Ukraine? And what would you

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Speaker 2: want to do as Commander in chief if assuming when

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Speaker 2: What should US policy be in Ukraine?

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Speaker 3: Well, one thing President Biden has not been able to

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Speaker 3: interest in Ukraine, and it starts with degrading and decimating

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Speaker 3: It keeps our soldiers safe. And if we can decimate

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Speaker 4: Today, Senator Scott. Last question for you. Buck mentioned Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump is leading. A lot of our listeners right now

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Speaker 4: would actually love for you to be Donald Trump's vice president.

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Speaker 4: I know you don't start to run for president to

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Speaker 4: you think a president Tim Scott should do if they

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Speaker 4: right response in your mind to that that potential potential outcome.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you what I've already done in the past,

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Speaker 3: is this is what you can expect from from my administration.

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Speaker 3: When they told me that President Trump was guilty in

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Speaker 3: would do it again. But more importantly, what we've seen

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Speaker 3: today is this Department of Justice being weaponized against a

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Speaker 3: We need a Department of Justice that we can have

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Speaker 3: confidence in. I would fire Merrick Garland because America fired

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton voices of Sanity an Insane World.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. You just

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Speaker 1: Uh in my mind, and uh, we Clay, we.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise it just would me say, you owe me a steak?

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Speaker 4: Here's the guy I'd put in second place right now.

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Speaker 4: choke hold.

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Speaker 2: Just some of the details here. The Williams, who is

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Speaker 2: now walking free, and just to reiterate, I think that

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Speaker 2: is the right decision in this case. This is the

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Speaker 2: Brooklyn District Attorney's office that was weighing in on this one, which.

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Speaker 4: To be fair buck his mom. The Williams mom said

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Speaker 4: that Daniel Penny shouldn't be charged either. So she's been

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Speaker 4: consistent here as well. Do you have that quoting to

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Speaker 4: her credit, she's saying, both of these guys are trying

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Speaker 4: to make to protect themselves and make the subway safer.

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Speaker 2: You're starting to see this more and more where knew you.

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Speaker 2: Workers in general, of white, black, Asian, of all backgrounds,

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Speaker 2: are like, we just all want to be safe on

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Speaker 2: the subway.

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Speaker 1: Yep. They don't want they don't want white people being assaulted.

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Speaker 2: They don't want black people being assaulted, Asian, Hispanic, you

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Speaker 2: know New Yorkers. We want everybody to be safe on

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Speaker 2: this They have that right to not be in this

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Speaker 2: kind of Look. I know it's never going to be perfect.

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Speaker 2: There's always going to be criminals in any society. The

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Speaker 2: eight point five million people, there's gonna be some, but

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Speaker 2: it's far too common, it's far too regular, and we're

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Speaker 2: seeing this right. We're all aware the uh Woodrago uh Oodreago,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's one of the I don't know how

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Speaker 2: to pronounce his name, but Oodreago came up to it,

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Speaker 2: just to be clear, came up to Williams and said

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Speaker 2: something very crass to his girlfriend. So he initiated an

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Speaker 2: aggressive exchange with the girlfriend, and then Williams said, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, basically, don't say something. Don't don't don't say that,

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Speaker 2: and then o'dreago started trying to choke Williams and punched

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Speaker 2: his girlfriend in the face. You know, every guy listening

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Speaker 2: to this knows this situation. You know, it's all bets

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Speaker 2: are off time. If some if a man is punching

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Speaker 2: your girlfriend, your wife, your sister, you know, your female

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Speaker 2: colleague in the face, you got to do whatever you

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Speaker 2: got to do to interview and stop that right away.

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Speaker 2: And I just look at this and I say to myself,

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Speaker 2: you know, Jason Williams's he's a young black man, and

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Speaker 2: New Yorkers want Jason Williams on their subway car. They

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Speaker 2: want a guy who's going to stand up for himself.

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Speaker 2: They want a guy who's going to stand up for

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Speaker 2: his girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Like this is.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's mining his business, he's trying to just

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Speaker 2: go about his day. He didn't start any problem with anybody,

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Speaker 2: and he stood up for himself and somebody else and

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Speaker 2: someone lost their life in this. But you're not allowed

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Speaker 2: to try to choke and punch people. Daniel Penny's also

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Speaker 2: someone that people want on their subway, as you point out,

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Speaker 2: including Williams's mother. Yep, the disparate treatment here is very

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Speaker 2: hard for people to ignore under the circumstances.

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Speaker 4: I think that's right. And again we've said this from

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Speaker 4: the beginning. The only reason anybody knows Daniel Penny's name

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Speaker 4: is because he's I'm sorry, I said Jason was, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna say Jordan Williams. Pardon me, there's Jordan Williams.

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Speaker 1: Is his name.

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Speaker 4: The only reason people know Daniel Penny is because he's white,

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Speaker 4: and the only reason that he was charged with the

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Speaker 4: crime is because he's white. I mean, this is the

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Speaker 4: exact example of Lady Justice not being blind, right. Alvin

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Speaker 4: Bragg is charging Daniel Penny because he's a white guy

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Speaker 4: who choked a black guy. And by the way, if

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Speaker 4: this guy on the subway had also been white, this

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Speaker 4: wouldn't have been a story. If the guy who choked

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Speaker 4: this guy had been black instead of Daniel Penny wouldn't

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Speaker 4: be a story either. It's only a story because a

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Speaker 4: white guy did it to a black guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Williams. You look at the backgrounds

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Speaker 2: of these individuals. Williams no criminal record of any comment whatsoever,

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Speaker 2: never been in trouble with the law. Yet he knew

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Speaker 2: that he had to carry a knife on the subway

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Speaker 2: because of exactly a situation like this. Possibly Rising couldn't

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Speaker 2: count on the authorities to keep the subway safe enough.

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Speaker 2: The other guy. Career, you know, career criminal, lots of arrests.

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Speaker 2: It's never a surprise when these things happen. You know,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't come.

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Speaker 4: Out of hit a woman, buck out of nowhere. Right,

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Speaker 4: If you're gonna hit a woman, you're typically going to

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Speaker 4: have had a criminal history in your past. Just just

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Speaker 4: tossing it out there. Most people out of nowhere don't

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Speaker 4: suddenly decide to strike women. It's typically something that somebody

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Speaker 4: who has a violent criminal past is doing.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Neely punched a senior citizen female in the face,

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Speaker 2: broke her nose in her eye socket, and that was

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Speaker 2: one of many many times he was arrested, but the

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Speaker 2: city of New York decided they didn't want to punish

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Speaker 2: him too harshly. We'll close up here with a few

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Speaker 2: something on the on the like lighthearted.

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Speaker 4: Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get

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Speaker 4: your podcasts. Welcome back a Clay Travis buck Sexton show.

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Speaker 4: Lots of serious conversation today, and I know a lot

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Speaker 4: of you are probably like, man, it's Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot you can.

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Speaker 4: I be a little bit sick maybe tomorrow, buck lot

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Speaker 4: of sickness coming up on Friday, a lot of I'm

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Speaker 4: not going to be.

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Speaker 1: Able to do my normal job.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing how often that happens when you got what

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Speaker 4: for many people is going to end up being a

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Speaker 4: four day weekend with Monday the third and then the

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Speaker 4: fourth coming up.

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Speaker 1: So we'll try to entertain you on Friday. Wall I'll

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Speaker 1: be in hanging out.

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Speaker 4: But I saw this clip yesterday afternoon, and I thought

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Speaker 4: it was emblematic of where we are headed, which is

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Speaker 4: a lot of people who aren't traditionally political are now

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Speaker 4: comfortable ridiculing doctor Fauci for all of his lies.

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Speaker 2: But I gotta ask you before you get to this,

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Speaker 2: the greatest all in Saturday Night Live talent of all time,

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Speaker 2: not greatest career, the best at doing Saturday Night Live.

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Speaker 4: That is such a tough question, right, because I'm sure

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Speaker 4: many of you are yelling out answers in your radios

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Speaker 4: all across the country right now. It's hard to also

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Speaker 4: not consider future career, right because so many of these

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Speaker 4: guys and girls go on to really incredible post careers.

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Speaker 4: The first name that I thought of when you said

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Speaker 4: this was Eddie Murphy.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. I think, if you're looking at totality of career,

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Speaker 1: very tough to beat Eddie Murphy. He's the most successful

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Speaker 1: person to ever be on SNL.

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Speaker 2: I think Mike Myers, if you're talking about dollars in

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Speaker 2: dollars out, would certainly be in the running as well.

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Speaker 4: With Fair Austin. You look at the volume of movies

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Speaker 4: he's done.

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Speaker 2: But the Austin Powers franchise became we don't. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: get a lot of play these days, but for a

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Speaker 2: while it was a massive phenomenon. And then obviously Wayne's

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Speaker 2: World too is pretty big. I look, I brought it

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Speaker 2: up because I think for me and now this goes

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Speaker 2: to what era.

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Speaker 1: You know, we got people watching who are like Blue

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Speaker 1: She's the best, or you know or Check.

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Speaker 2: No one thinks Dana Android, No one thinks Chevy Chase,

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Speaker 2: dan Ackroyd calling I'm throwing a flag on Clay's Chevy

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Speaker 2: Chase comment. That guy, no way, he had like a

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Speaker 2: couple of things he was okay, but anyway, dan Ackroyd Yeah, Danakwood, super.

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Speaker 4: Talent, Chris Carley, Dana Carvey. There's a lot of big

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Speaker 4: time names.

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Speaker 1: I go to see.

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Speaker 2: For me, if you're talking about just content that they

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Speaker 2: produced on the show, I think Dana Carvey is the

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Speaker 2: most talented SNL single cast member on SNL all time for.

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Speaker 4: Me, which ties in well with this clip. This is

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Speaker 4: Dana Carvey and this is David Spade. They have a

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Speaker 4: podcast and this was an interlude. I think the podcast

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Speaker 4: buck because I've listened to a couple of these before. Actually,

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Speaker 4: they just interview comedians who have had time on Saturday

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Speaker 4: Night Live. And one of my buddies that works it

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Speaker 4: out kick Chad Wirow, and I listened to a couple

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Speaker 4: of them. We were on a long car trip and

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Speaker 4: I was like, this is really good. I think they

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Speaker 4: had Maya Rudolph on and a couple Anyway, this was

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Speaker 4: part of an interlude as they were discussing and getting

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Speaker 4: ready for their guest.

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Speaker 6: Listen, you know what I knew there was trouble when

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Speaker 6: anyone that came to our country didn't have to get

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Speaker 6: a vaccine. And I go, mm hmm, if you're telling

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Speaker 6: me I can't go to work, but everyone coming in

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Speaker 6: doesn't have to get one a go. Well, once we

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Speaker 6: found out when Fauci said, Okay, I'm sorry, if you've

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Speaker 6: had two boosters and two vaccines, you can get and

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Speaker 6: give COVID to another guy who's had five vaccines and

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Speaker 6: full boosts. A vaccine boosts, So I don't know, it's

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Speaker 6: just more vaccine, but boosters sounds batter. Anyway, a guy

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Speaker 6: with twenty five vaccines would get and give COVID to

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Speaker 6: another guy with twenty five vaccines. That's why I'm introducing

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Speaker 6: the daily COVID shot. Every day you get a shot.

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Speaker 6: By the time you get to your car, you got

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Speaker 6: no immunity. But it's a beautiful thirty nine seconds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, used that a couple of years ago, Buck, when

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Speaker 4: and I were out here making the case. But I

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Speaker 4: do think it's emblematic of where we're headed, which is

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Speaker 4: Fauci's going to become a symbol of ridicule for many people.

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Speaker 2: I yes, for well for the people that have thought

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Speaker 2: this along. Certainly I struggle with this man. I'm I

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Speaker 2: will not let COVID go. You know, I've just refuse

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Speaker 2: to let it go. The lockdowns and the vaccine mandate,

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Speaker 2: the fact that there are no consequences.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean that the fact that not only

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Speaker 2: no consequences, the people who did all that stuff basically

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Speaker 2: all say they would do it again.

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Speaker 1: I see a lot of people. There are people on

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Speaker 1: my flight today with masks on. I see a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that still buy into this.

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Speaker 2: But whenever I start to talk about it, people go, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, move on from that. There's other things that

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Speaker 2: I sit here, I go, guys, you know, we got

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Speaker 2: a trial run of communism for like two years in

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Speaker 2: this country.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty big deal, and it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't come off with with our side looking so good

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Speaker 2: on this one. I'm just gonna be honest with you, meaning,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Conservatives, Republicans, a lot of them went

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Speaker 2: along with it for a while too.

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Speaker 1: It was not good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not only that, buck, but if people can be

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Speaker 4: elected to office, manifest get everything wrong, social distancing, masks,

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Speaker 4: shutting down schools, the idea of fifteen days to stop

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Speaker 4: the spread, all that stuff, and then they all get

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Speaker 4: re elected. What's the point of democracy if there aren't

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Speaker 4: consequences for elected leaders who make the wrong choices when

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Speaker 4: it comes to their judgment because ultimately all of us,

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Speaker 4: everybody out there listening to us, regardless of what your

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Speaker 4: politics is or are, you're voting for somebody to make

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Speaker 4: judgments for you. That's ultimately what the job of a

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Speaker 4: politician is. They are deciders. People put questions in front

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Speaker 4: of them and they say, hey, this is the answer.

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Speaker 4: If somebody makes every decision wrong, why in the world

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Speaker 4: are they getting re elected to keep making decisions. That's

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Speaker 4: my biggest issue with COVID. They got it all wrong

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Speaker 4: and they're still an office and in power.

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Speaker 2: We're already thinking about what a fantastic show we're going

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Speaker 2: to have racked up and ready to go for you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: So before you.

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Speaker 2: Kick off for the Independence Day weekend, come hang with

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Speaker 2: Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you then