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Speaker 1: Everybody has a moment where they put into action all

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Speaker 1: they've practiced, where they step up to a challenge and

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Speaker 1: either succeed or fail. But what are those moments for

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Speaker 1: some of the world's most influential leaders.

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Speaker 2: It was a rough and humble world, and I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I can rise up, I can play this game. And

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Speaker 2: I did play the game.

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Speaker 3: It was great and it was depressing, and it was disappointing.

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Speaker 4: My chair at the time sat down with me and said,

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Speaker 4: succession starts now.

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Speaker 1: I'm Francis Lacua, an award winning journalist. For the last

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Speaker 1: twenty five years, I've interviewed world leaders, bank bosses, even

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Speaker 1: fashion icons. I'm often asking about the news of the moment,

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Speaker 1: but I've always been curious, who are these people as leaders?

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Speaker 1: Join me for the podcast version of Leaders with Francis Laqua.

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Speaker 1: I'll start your week with conversations that explore what drives

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Speaker 1: the world's most influential people, how today's leaders got to

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Speaker 1: where they are, where they're going next, and how they've

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Speaker 1: transformed their organization in the process.

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Speaker 3: Decisions A poor decision is always better than no decision.

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Speaker 2: You have to have truth tellers around you, and you

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Speaker 2: have to be willing to listen.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to be setting strategy in the middle

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Speaker 4: of a transaction, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Do it for the right reasons, don't do it because

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Speaker 3: of fomo.

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Speaker 1: We'll also learn lessons which we can apply to our

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Speaker 1: work and daily lives. So tune into the podcast version

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Speaker 1: of Leaders with Francine Laqua. Catch new episodes wherever you

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Speaker 1: find your podcasts.