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Speaker 2: It's welcome to the not even Aisha and your host

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Speaker 2: Rob Shooter, and it is Wednesday, which means our your

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Speaker 2: friend Donnie Meacham joins us. Hey, Donnie, are you there? Hello? Hello.

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Speaker 1: I know we're gonna do something different this week, and

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Speaker 1: you're used to me carrying the show for Rob. I

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Speaker 1: know it just gets really difficult this week. You know

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Speaker 1: it's a little summer end of summer cold or far cold, because.

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Speaker 2: I had one of those a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 2: and you helped me through, so we didn't spread it

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Speaker 2: over the zoom. I hope, Donnie. But it's good to

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Speaker 2: see you and thank you for joining us. Have lots

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Speaker 2: of sweet tea and some honey. You'll feel better. I'll

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Speaker 2: send over a cupa after we finish. What time is it,

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Speaker 2: my friends? It is tea time. A big story at

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Speaker 2: the top of the show, so sure Mendos is opening

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Speaker 2: up about the beautifully complex journey with sexuality and heartfelt

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Speaker 2: concert speech. So Sean took a moment during his tour

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Speaker 2: stop in Colorado to address the long standing speculation about

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Speaker 2: his sexuality, emitting quote, I'm still trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: So before performing his new song The Mountain The twenty

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Speaker 2: old shared a candid speech with his fans, explaining that

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Speaker 2: growing up in the spotlight left little room for self exploration.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting, he said the following quote. I was really

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Speaker 2: young when I started. He was about fifteen years old,

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Speaker 2: he said. The truth is I didn't get to do

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Speaker 2: a lot of things that other fifteen year olds do,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't get to discover those parts about myself.

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Speaker 2: He added that sexuality is a very complex thing and

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Speaker 2: he resisted the urge to put it into boxes. Now,

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Speaker 2: we should be careful here. We have known about Shawn

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Speaker 2: Mendees for a long time. We do not out people

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Speaker 2: on this show. We did not talk about their sexuality

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Speaker 2: until they're ready to. But I think we've all heard

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Speaker 2: these rumors, this speculation, and he's heard it too. He

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Speaker 2: knows what people are saying and he knows the truth

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Speaker 2: as well. So I think this is an important first step,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's gonna make him happier. Being your

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Speaker 2: authentic self is always a good idea. What do you think, Tony, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Think I mean, I find it is a little funny

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Speaker 1: that him like trying to clarify the rumors or whatever

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Speaker 1: just actually made them more confusing, which I love. But

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Speaker 1: you know, here's the thing. I think we've all kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, heard whispers, heard rumors. But I think

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Speaker 1: at this point though, with Sean, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever he's doing, he's Canadian, so let's not forget that.

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Speaker 1: They're you know, a little more open up there. But

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Speaker 1: also I just think he's you know, he's young, so

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Speaker 1: he's like fluid. He's just is like, Okay, if it's

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Speaker 1: a man, cool, if it's a woman, cool, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: And I think that the party's trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: now and yeah, it can be annoying though if I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it's annoying for him, but it's like, oh he's

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Speaker 1: Gay's gay's gaining and he's like no, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do like men, but like women do, so like,

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Speaker 1: don't well, don't force me to do one or the other.

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Speaker 2: Our generation were gay or straight, Donnie. The younger generation,

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Speaker 2: people in their twenties today are more fluid. Andrew Garfield's

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Speaker 2: a good example. Spider Man is now dating again. I'm

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Speaker 2: told he's dating both men and women. Shawn Mendus here

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Speaker 2: seems a little bit more fluid than we were oriigionally

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Speaker 2: led to believe. But I am glad. I am glad

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Speaker 2: that he's talking about this because we knew, we knew

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Speaker 2: about this, We didn't want to out him. We didn't

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Speaker 2: out him, which I truly believe is an honorable thing

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Speaker 2: to do. I'm told my sources tell me that surprisingly,

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Speaker 2: it was Camilla Cabello who really convinced him to start

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Speaker 2: thinking about this stuff. And when they were dating, it

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Speaker 2: was clear to her that this was a guy who

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Speaker 2: was struggling with his sexuality. That they never were going

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Speaker 2: to get married. They had a lot of fun together,

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Speaker 2: but she's turned now into his best friend, which I

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Speaker 2: think happens a lot with gay men. Donnie. When we

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Speaker 2: were fourteen or fifteen, that's when you start to figure

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Speaker 2: but when you're about thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, that's when experiences

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Speaker 2: do agree it's so interesting that he was denied those

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, there's a lot of people, especially

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Speaker 2: This is not something from Liberace's generation or Elton John's.

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Speaker 2: This is something that's going on today and it takes

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Speaker 2: enormous courage to do this. Sean did not have to

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Speaker 2: do this. He's doing very well. He's got new music

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Speaker 2: at on tour, and so he didn't have to do it.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to do it inside us. Tell me it

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Speaker 2: was time, And it wasn't the speculation. It wasn't the

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Speaker 2: rumors that forced him out. Nothing forced him out here.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to be outed by a weekly magazine.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes celebrities tell you something before the press can I

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Speaker 2: poked around. Nobody intended to do this story. This was

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Speaker 2: his choice. He finally wanted to talk about it. He's

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Speaker 2: obviously been thinking about it for a long time. He

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Speaker 2: can thank his ex Camillacabello to nudge him in the

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Speaker 2: in the direction here that will lead to happiness. But

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Speaker 2: I think, Donnie, this is all good news. Whatever the

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Speaker 2: outcome turns out to be here. Whatever he decided, I

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Speaker 2: think this is all good news.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited though, because so Sean lives by me here

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Speaker 1: in West Hollywood. Hell though, but so I would see

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Speaker 1: him all the time, and then he when he kind

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Speaker 1: of disappeared for that like mental health break, I really

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Speaker 1: wouldn't see him. And this is the thing about Shawn

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Speaker 1: Mendez is pictures or like if you see him perform,

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Speaker 2: A little he's massive, no, like six foot two. This

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Speaker 1: And he is built broad shoulders. So every hello, it's

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Speaker 1: heder secret and you want to see Sewan Mindez. Every

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Speaker 1: Sunday at the Farmer's Market on Melroe's Place, there's he's there.

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Speaker 1: He walks around everybody kind of glances like this.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he saw you too, Maybe he saw you. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's why he did this speech.

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Speaker 1: We ran into him, I ran We were always running

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Speaker 1: into each other. It's funny enough. About six months ago,

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Speaker 1: we were always seeing each other. And there's this cute

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Speaker 1: and I randomly would go there, maybe like every other week,

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Speaker 1: and then that day he would always go too, and

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Speaker 1: I saw him again and I went, are you stalking me?

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Speaker 1: And he went but and I was like, why are

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Speaker 1: you stalking me? And he was like no. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh well, I was like we see each other other

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Speaker 2: Oh well, now maybe he might be a little bit

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Speaker 2: more open. You've got a big mouth. You'll tell everybody.

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Speaker 2: I like this. It's complicated. Sexuality is complicated. I can't

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Speaker 2: imagine dealing with all this and being a star, being

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Speaker 2: at school, Donal. And it's very difficult. It's very difficult

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Speaker 2: We think it's easy if you're straight. You think it's easy.

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Speaker 2: If you're an out gay person like ourselves, Donny, it

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Speaker 2: feels easy. But if I think back to when I

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Speaker 2: was fourteen or fifteen, it wasn't. It was really, really complicated,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think that much has changed here. I'm

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Speaker 2: really impressed Sean has done this, and I'm also too

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Speaker 2: impressed that the media knew. We've known this for several

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Speaker 2: right thing to do here, which brings us to our

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Speaker 2: was whispers, there was rumors. Personally, I'm not surprised, but

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Speaker 2: Camilla Cabello. I love that song Sengarita. Did that throw

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Speaker 2: you off the track a little bit? Here? Are you surprised? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Rob or our Facebook page which is Naughty Gossip, and

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Speaker 2: Donnie Love, what are you working?

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Speaker 1: I mean, real quick? A lot of our listeners across

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Speaker 1: other listeners, I think about our old friend and co worker,

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Speaker 1: Taylor's Trekker, who came out as a let's been late

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Speaker 1: in life. It's it's difficult for anybody. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: And so you told it's wrong. Do you told it's

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Speaker 2: wrong your whole life? You grow up watching horrible things

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Speaker 2: I think my my family are shameful of some of

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Speaker 2: the things they would say about gay people, not realizing

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady? So we all know Giselle Bunchen is pregnant

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Speaker 1: Joaquim Valente. But Tom, now what was Tom? Thinking?

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Speaker 1: There's no web that he wasn't doing this on purpose?

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Speaker 1: So after things like everywhere. He posted lyrics from Landslide

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Speaker 1: by the Dixie Chicks, which fine, which is accompanied by

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Speaker 1: three heart emojis, but in the lyric that says, can

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Speaker 1: the child within me rise? Above can I sail through

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Speaker 1: the changing ocean tact like? Oh, but there's no way

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Speaker 1: he didn't see that. She I know she told him

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Speaker 1: before we know I'll know that that we've been out there,

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Speaker 1: but she told HER's no way he chose that exact

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Speaker 1: moment to put that right now, Landslide by the Dixie

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Speaker 1: cho There's no way. I'm me, boy, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: And this is silly?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I laugh when celebrities try to be coy

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Speaker 2: or really clever. Just say congratulations, Grazelle. I would post

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Speaker 2: a beautiful picture of her lovely family and say, this

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Speaker 2: is going to be really exciting, this big, beautiful, blended family.

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Speaker 2: He'll always been alife because they share two kids together.

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Speaker 2: And so I would just be really nice about this

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Speaker 2: or say nothing. If you don't think something nicer, you

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Speaker 2: don't have to say anything. But it does make me left.

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Speaker 2: These celebrities, Oh, I think they're so clever, so witty,

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Speaker 2: so coy, so silly. That's what it is. I know.

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Speaker 2: And the timing of it is so silly and so off.

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Speaker 2: Tommy say something nice is saying nothing at all. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Moving along, Liam payne struggles with addiction have resurfaced after

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Speaker 2: his netflick show has been pushed back, so multiple sources

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Speaker 2: close to Liam have disclosed that the former One Direction

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