WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Butler Addition Leads 500th Show 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.480 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Ahead. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:10.400 He got Jack. This is the big red Rain presented 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:14.560 by Satanford in Gilbert. Harry's gonna score touchdown. Then so 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.400 for Bets goes up and begs the game. When it 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:22.880 cast Flurry Luncheon does it again. The Rage is brought 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.520 to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Or are you 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:31.040 Satanford State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:36.640 hundred State Farm and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts. Visit Hacy 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:45.360 Cardinals dot com, Slash podcasts, The Rods Rising Guard, Temperatureizing Vision, 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:50.760 Flurry Rage taking over. Here's Paul CALVC. Get the popcorn ready, 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.519 It's gonna be a show and Ron will flip. It 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.960 doesn't get any better than that, boy, unleash the far. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:06.840 The weather forecast says, the skies are cloudy, little chilly 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.400 out there a little bit, but the Cardinals offseason, Ron 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:16.400 Wolfley is clearing up. Is heating up? Good for you 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.600 in your thin blood. Don't tell me you're from Buffalo. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.639 You always are wearing a jacket when it's under seventy 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:26.280 eight degrees. Buffalo boy, always a Buffalo boy. You can 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.880 turn off the fog. Lights on your f one fifty 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:33.399 because the roster is now coming into focus. You can 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.520 see ahead where the Cardinals are going. You can see 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.319 where they have landed. Oh wait a minute, there was 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.720 a stop for a cornerback earlier. Today there were some 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.680 tight end news cleared up as well, a little draft 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.000 clarification as well. And how about this week in general, 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.320 Ron Wolfley, you definitely have not been as productive as 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.360 the airs on a Cardinals this week, as they have 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.440 addressed multiple spots will get into it. It's not just 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.360 the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.000 We are satan Ford, Paul Calvc, Ron Wolfley. It is 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:10.760 show number five hundred in the history of the Big 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.959 Red Rage. Wolf Well, you know what, Pobaby, it only 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.560 seems very momentous that show number five hundred would have 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.680 as much news as the Arizona Cardinals have today. I 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.840 could not believe it, Paul, the news that just kept 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.280 coming down about the Arizona Cardinals. And here we are, 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.200 show number five hundred, and we talked about clearing up, 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:34.600 heating up. We even have a backup quarterback potentially news. 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.240 So up and down there's the Indy five hundred and 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.680 then there's the five hundredth episode of The Big Red Rage, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.480 and we're gonna get into it. We're gonna go down 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:48.080 memory lane. We're gonna revisit some of the all time 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.160 great moments in the history of this show, which goes 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.359 almost two decades. Now, think about that, and then we're 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:59.240 gonna talk about what's front Burner and Wolf. You tell 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.960 me when they signed Malcolm Butler, that obviously filled the 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.399 biggest hole that was left at this point in the offseason. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.040 Malcolm Butler come on down a one year deal with 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.440 the Arizona card Yeah, Polly, it's so interesting because right now, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.000 I don't know if you're reading the tea leaves of 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.160 all of these signings in these moves that Steve Kim 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.360 and the Arizona Cardinals have made so far, but one 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:26.560 thing screams out to me in almost all of these signings, Polly, 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:28.679 and that is there's going to be a change of 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.840 culture inside that locker room. There's going to be a 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:36.360 lot more physicality. When you talk about Malcolm Butler, you 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.680 talk about him just as a corner, Polly, start talking 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.600 about him being a physical press man, corner or a 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.640 guy that's going to be physical and be able to 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.680 hold up and cover two schemes where you've got that 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.720 roll up corner and any type of play, any type 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:55.160 of perimeter play that comes towards that number two corner, 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.320 that covered two corner. He's got to force everything inside. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.520 You need to feel a goal corner to do that 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.520 right now. Top end speed gonna be a little bit 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.800 suspect with Malcolm Butler, but this is a guy that 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:12.080 gets it done via savvy and just being smarter than 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:17.400 you are. And starting with JJ Watt, the physicality, the energy, 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:21.600 the intensity a Rodney Hudson who is a maller at 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.480 the center position. Yes, they added up Brian Winters. I mean, 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.040 the dude is pulling f three fifties, you know, World 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:33.440 Strongman competition type stuff. How about you know, purposely going 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.880 after and resigning Marcus Golden. All right, Junkyard Dog, You're right, Wulf. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.240 There is a pattern here, Darrell Daniels bringing him back 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.760 as that second tight end, ad move tight end, more 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:49.120 blocker than receiver. They're not just building a team, they're 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.720 building a culture. I agree with you, and we'll get 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.840 into what Malcolm Butler does for the Arizona Cardinal's next 0:04:54.839 --> 0:05:02.039 the big red rage shown number five hundred. The poll 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.440 is hit the Patriot one the quarterback Wilson is in 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:09.039 the shotgun information Lynch will flank into his left two 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.360 one to the near side, one to the fall. In 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:15.039 the shut gun, there's the Snappe's felled high control interston. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:21.440 It's intercepted by Fulcol Butler. Welcome, Butler is intercepting Listen 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:26.760 Wilson at the goal line. Twenty second slift. Parler does 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:31.120 an unbelievable job getting inside and I'm surprised that Russell 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.279 Wilson through it here. Harler read the play perfectly, one 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.200 behind the pick and ran right to where the slam 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:42.359 was going to be prone. Beast Mode was surprised that 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.680 Russell Wilson threw that ball right there. That's how Super 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.919 Bowl forty nine ended at State Farm Stadium. And that 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:55.560 was just the beginning of the career of Malcolm Butler, who, 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:59.440 if you remember, was an undrafted rookie that season out 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:06.320 of West Alabama and a Super Bowl clinching interception to 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:10.400 win for the Patriots with the Seahawks at the goal line. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.400 Wolf I was at at that game. I was in 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:16.080 auxiliary media. You're never It's never good when you're on 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.560 auxiliary media seating. I was a good three rows from 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.720 the top of the stadium and it happened right in 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.240 front of me, although I had my binoculars watching it 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.880 from that point. And you've never seen a fan base 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.760 so distraught. It's one thing to lose a game at 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.240 the end. It's another thing to lose a Super Bowl 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.039 at the very end on the final play. And there 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.039 you go Malcolm Butler and that's the play of his 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.880 career so far after one year with Tennessee, signs in 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.160 the line that has dotted today and he's the newest 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.120 Arizona Cardinals, not just cornerback, but he's going to be 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.520 your number one corner going into this season, no doubt 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.400 about it. Bali, you know, it's so fascinating I knew 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.320 about this. Is Malcolm Butler. Once again, this guy is 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:58.080 a tough, tough dude. He's a tough corner. He's a 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.640 pretty big corner. When you think of five eleven one 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.000 ninety poly that's a pretty good size for a cornerback 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.560 right there, and once again, tough. A guy that is 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:10.400 an alpha male the locker room, the testosterone that is 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.200 going to be floating around the Arizona Cardel's locker room 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:18.000 this year in twenty twenty one is so impressive, it's unbelievable. 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:22.080 This guy is a man's man, a man's corner, if 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.360 you will. Polly, very very physical guy. Once again, doesn't 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.880 have the top end speed that maybe he once possessed. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.760 He's got average speed right now, I think when you 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.640 consider the totality of his position, but he gets so 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:41.560 much of it done based on knowing scheme, knowing route combinations, anticipation, 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.840 knowing where to be. This is a very very smart 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:49.480 football player. And of all the guys, and I said this, Polly, 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.080 before this signing right here, I said this. I said, 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.200 of all the corners that are out there right now 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.640 and are available, the one guy that I'm interested in 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.680 is Malcolm Butller. Well, guess what maybe you spoken into 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.760 existence because speaking of before this signing, here's Steve Kime 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.960 on Monday the Arizona Cardinals gym answering a question about 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.080 the Cardinals corner situation. At that moment. You know, every 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.480 team has holes, and one thing you don't want to 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.200 do is you don't want to panic and do things 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.600 that are put you in a tough situation from a 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.440 cap standpoint, So we'll continue to monitor the market. There's 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.200 different avenues that we can take, whether it's through free agency, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.320 trade options, or even the NFL draft. Look, the supply 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.800 was out there. It was a matter of waiting what 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.280 would come to him. And if you believe the reports, 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.360 he signed a one year deal Malcolm Butler with a 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.760 Cardinals worth a maximum of six million a base of 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.360 three point five million according to multiple reports. So Tennessee 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.079 let him go. He had a cap number of fourteen 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.960 point two million, So as much as they might have 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:55.360 wanted to keep them, it just wasn't feasible under their cap. Yeah, 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.480 and see was a free agent man. That is a 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.520 great point, Paul, It really is, because we know the 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:03.360 salary pinch. Of course, that is happening with every NFL team, 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.439 And when you've got a guy that may not be 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.400 a shutdown corner. And I wouldn't call Malcolm Butler a 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.079 shutdown corner at this point in his career. I don't 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.480 think Malcolm Butler would call himself a shutdown corner at 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.480 thirty one years of age right now. I don't think 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.600 he'd do that, Polly. But when you're paying somebody like 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.840 that fourteen million and you can save over ten million 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.440 dollars on the cap the way that the Tennessee Titans did. Yeah, 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.640 in this climate right now, you could see that coming. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.720 I want to say one thing about this Polly last 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.520 year a bit of a bounce back year for Malcolm 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.959 Butler in terms of getting his hands on a lot 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.199 of footballs. I think it's so important when you look 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:43.720 at cornerbacks. How many passes defense does a corner have? Polly, 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.959 and you would think of Pat P when Pat p 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.320 came into the league right his first three years in 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.800 the league, would just say that Pat P was really 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:55.520 an exciting developing corner and all right, Paul, Yeah, a 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.880 lot of his rookie year, obviously he wasn't Pat he 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.520 the Pro Bowler act corner, but yeah, after that rookie year, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.319 absolutely he was the shutdown guy. The first three years, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.720 teams are gonna Tessac Corner, Tessac Corner, tests at corner, 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.960 and suddenly Pappy by year four he had proven he's 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.080 one of the best shutdown corners in the game. And 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.160 he didn't get tested a lot. But the first three 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.360 years he had thirteen passes defense that tells me a lot. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.280 He was targeted. He's a rookie. Go after him. You 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.840 know what. Thirteen times got his hands on a football, 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.199 knocked it down in his second year in the league. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.880 Sixteen times Paul knocked it down his third year in 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.280 the league, another thirteen times got his hands on a football, 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.080 knocked it down, and then it just drops off the 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.800 table from that point forward. Why because so many teams 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.760 were not targeting Pat p Right, Malcolm Butler is gonna 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.439 get targeted. Nobody's gonna look at Malcolm Butler said, Oh, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.160 he's a shutdown corner. Don't throw it over there. They're 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.160 gonna do it. They're gonna throw it over there. He 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:59.520 had fourteen passes defense last year. Paul, this is a 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:04.360 guy who may not physically be a supreme talent anymore, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.400 but this is a guy that will get it done 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.680 with his brain. I'll take that all day. And he 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.439 has ball skills a feign interceptions last year. He tweeted 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.280 out today quote I bawled at the age of thirty. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.440 I think I can ball harder at thirty one. And 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.360 then after the news broke, he tweeted out, can't wait 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.679 to wear that red, talking about signing with the Cardinals, 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.800 and he's a guy with a dozen playoff games worth 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.440 of postseason experience under his belt. Ron willfully so not 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.640 going to be surprised. Yeah, he's got that going for him. 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.120 And your point earlier about him being physical. One hundred 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.880 tackles last year between Robert Alford and Malcolm Butler, and 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:42.800 we know Byron Murphrey will put his hat on you. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.080 I mean, that's a pretty physical group of corners. Just 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.560 another guy that will stick his face into the fire. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.520 Darren Urban next on show number five hundred and the 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:58.600 Big Red Rage, You're flying solo tonight, But it doesn't 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:03.520 mean you don't have big news to announce for trand Berry. Yeah, 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.800 I just want to I wanted to make this nice 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.440 special m I wanted to do it here on this show. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.520 This show is very special to me. I've done this 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.800 show for five years with two great co hosts and 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.640 the producer that has been great, and they made this 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:19.520 show spectacular. They made it part of my life and 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.320 I'm very thankful for that. And I just wanted to 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.280 do these guys in honor and letting them know and 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:29.200 go publicly that I've played my last game a professional football. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:34.520 I'm retiring for real. Yeah, there you go, aways and gentlemen, 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.000 the official announcement right here are the Big Grade Rage 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:42.400 for Bertrand Berry falling into a career after twelve glorious 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:48.679 seasons in the NFL. And yes, that is deserving. Thank you, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.120 Thank you, guys, thank you. I love that. Circa two 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.480 thousand and nine. It is show number five hundred in 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.480 history of the Big Red Rage, a show that started 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.439 circa two thousand and one. That year Ron Wolfley Pat 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:06.400 Tillman was a guest, not the Big Red Rage. Think 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.959 about that. Think think about some of the hosts over 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.720 the years. Bertrand Berry five years, Kwami Lasseter, Dexter Jackson 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:19.400 and Quan Bolden, Adrian Wilson, Carrie roose Coleis Campbell obviously 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.280 had a great run. Carlos Dansby was tons of fun. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:27.160 DJ Humphrey's most recently has been so dynamic in so 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.280 many ways. And tonight presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.200 We are santan Ford. We're talking about the Cardinals news 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.640 this week today and looking back over the last two decades. 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.840 Polly I just listened to that right there and tier 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.920 Rop and knowing what a great guy and how much 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.560 I love bertrand Berry right, and I know you feel 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:47.200 exactly the same way knowing how much he loved the game. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.439 I'm tired up right here listening to that all over 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.520 and then you hit me with Pat Tillman. I mean, 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.920 what are you doing with Paul? I still have the 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.640 still have the jersey? Remember you presented us with autographed 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:02.719 jerseys that nice to commemorate his retirement. It was it 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.160 was a big deal. And uh, you know he he 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.360 put his best into this show every Thursday night and 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.240 we've tried to do the same, led by producer Jim 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.400 Almahundro and uh, to talk about that and to look 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.280 at the news from today, let's bring in Darren urban 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.960 Asy Cardinals dot Com, Cardinals Insider, It's all about You, 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:25.640 presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert and uh, Darren, you know, 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.560 whether whether it was Larry packing the house in a 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.600 Big Red Rage and telling us about some of the 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.600 contacts on his phone from Tiger Woods to President Obama, 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:37.600 to Warren Buffa, to two guys like to Pat Tillman 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.400 and to even Max hall Ax. Hall even had an 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.720 appearance on the Big Red Rage. So it's been a 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.960 little bit of everything over the last twenty years. I 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.760 remember when I was working for a newspaper and going 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:55.840 over to Jilli's and seeing any last I mean, it's 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.440 it's amazing, the staying power of the show. And I 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.480 do I remember Bert friends night. I may or may 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.240 not have been tipped off that the news was coming, 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.360 and I had a I was actually playing in an 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.040 adult basketball league and I actually was sitting in my 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.040 car waiting for him to officially announce it so I 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:13.800 could post it to the site before I went in 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.360 and play basketball. But it's really been an amazing run. 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:18.960 You guys have done a great job with it, and 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.880 here's to another five hundred shows. Hey, there was that 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.920 one time at Jillies was the final year of Dennis 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.560 Green and Cardinals were off to a tough start, inc 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.240 or a one in seven and Bertram Berry made some 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:35.000 very pointed direct comments on the big red rage comments 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.440 and when National I remember that going back to that venue, 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.840 and then there was National News today. Darren Malcolm Butler 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.200 is an Arizona Cardinal. Give us your reaction and thoughts 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:49.360 after writing about an easy Cardinals dot com. I'll be 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:54.280 honest I'm a little surprised with Malcolm Butler's price tag. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.520 It's he's a little bit more affordable than I thought 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.360 he was going to be. That's why I didn't think 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.320 he would necessarily be somebody that the Cardinals were going 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.520 to be able to target. And quite frankly, you know, 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.400 is he's still in his prime? Probably not. But I 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.040 do think that they did a nice job to kind 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.840 of rebound off of losing Patrick Peterson and bringing in 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.760 a guy that you figure will probably be able to 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.400 be your number one cornerback for the time being, obviously 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.640 only one year deal, and you get him in there, 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.960 and I think everybody kind of breathe a little bit 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.480 more of a sigh of relief. I think you can 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:29.120 work with the situation better now going forward. And they 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.400 may not be done at cornerback. They might get another 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:35.560 vetter in here, but if you know you've got Butler there, 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.760 then all of a sudden, you've got a lot more 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.520 leeway in terms of what you might get out of 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.160 Robert Offord, You've got Byron Murphy in the slot. I mean, 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.320 there's still things to do, there's still a draft to go, 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.480 but I think you're in a much better place right 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.640 now than you were twenty four hours ago. You know, 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.120 I look at the cornerback position overall, and I am 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.000 really really encouraged right now because I get to leave 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.080 Byron Murphy. Of course in the slot. I think that's important. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.600 I think you need that third corner or of course 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.320 that nickel corner. Now is more of a starter. They 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.280 look at him as a starter. He gets so many 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.440 snaps in a game. And to be able to leave 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.600 Byron Murphy there and have Robert Alfred on one side 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:16.440 and Malcolm Butler on another, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully Robert Alfred 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.000 is going to remain healthy, Oh my goodness, if that 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.760 will only happen right now. This is a guy that 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.199 I'm so impressed with his skill set. I love everything 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.480 about him. And by the way, when he was in training, camping, 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.280 he was practicing, he was there was nobody that was 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.520 having a better camp in my opinion than Robert Alfred 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.080 before he got hurt. And now all of a sudden, 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.200 two years in a row, it's been a disaster. I 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.920 understand that. But if there's somehow, some way he can 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.640 actually play and hold down a corner, and now with 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.360 Malcolm Butler, who knows you might be able to get 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.440 somebody at number sixteen day. I would imagine they're looking 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.320 at some of these young corners at number sixteen going 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.600 into the draft, right, Yeah, you would think so. But 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:00.600 you know, the issue is going to be whether one 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.240 of those guys is still around at sixteen, or in 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.280 Farley's case, whether he's healthy enough that you want to 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.040 take that gamble, because I don't I don't know at 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.439 this point if Horn or Certant is going to be 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:16.720 there and you could get a guy in the second round. Obviously, 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.040 dealing Mason Cole gets you another draft pick, so you've 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:20.840 got a little bit more leeway there. Although that's a 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.600 sixth rounder. You know again, you've got you've got whatever 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:26.800 it is. A month before the draft happens, it's a 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.600 lot of time between not only being able to draft 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.359 guys but also sign other free agents, and you know, 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.280 we'll see. I agree with you on Alford to be 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.040 nice if he could, if he's able to get back 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:38.879 to where he was. But I mean, even that that 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.040 great training camp you're talking about, Wolf, I mean, we're 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.520 going to be talking about two years removed from that 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.560 by the time I get back to training camp this time, 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.200 so we'll up to see. I know, Darren Irban, Cardinals 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.720 insider on the Big Red Rage. As someone pointed out 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:54.240 his Pro Football Focus coverage grade, Malcolm Buttner's seventy two 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.520 point seven would have led all Cardinals defensive backs. Think 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.520 about that. Think about the fact Tennis, he was at 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.359 the bottom of the league in sacks and the Cardinals 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.800 were number four in sacks. How much does that help 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.160 a dB A corner right come up better and look 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.440 better on film when you have that pass rush and 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.199 the Cardinals looked to have fortified that. How about the 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.840 other side of the ball, Darren and what the Cardinals 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:20.080 did this week and recently here the offensive line today, 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.159 Let's just start with a trade of Mason Cole to 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.879 the Vikings for a six rounder. I mean, clearly, once 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.640 they got Rodney Hudson in their own trade, they had 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.720 a blood of offensive lineman, and with as few picks 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:34.760 as they had, with all the trade that they had made, 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.080 it made sense to move Mason Cole. I think they 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.119 had given him ample time to kind of show what 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.960 he was going to give them. It wasn't there. I'll 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:45.520 be honest, I wasn't sure if they were going to 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.280 be able to get a draft pick for him. So 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.000 the fact that they did even a six, I thought 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.000 that was a good move by Steve Khan because he 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.600 just wasn't going to be in your plans and he's 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.840 going into the last year of his contracts. So I 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.960 think that's a benefit. Now they've got six draft pick 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.399 instead of just five, and granted four of them are 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.760 in those last three rounds, but you can hopefully make 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.480 some of that work, and who knows, maybe it gives 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.639 you some ammunition to do some other things. And you 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:15.320 say some money right by Jettasine Mason Cole, Yeah, I 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:17.800 mean it's it's the cap space. I mean, I think, 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.560 I mean, it's it's never bad to save a little money, 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.679 but the cap space that they're saving, and once you 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.480 once you figure in him going out and then somebody 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.640 replacing him in the top fifty one things, it's it's 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.399 about one point three one point four million dollars in 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.120 cap space. But we've talked about this a million times, Paul. 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.679 I mean, you need as much cap space as you 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.800 can get at this point, and so that can only help. 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.720 And I do think if the if the what's out 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.640 there with what Malcolm Butler's contract is, which was up 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.800 to six million, which means it's it's worth less than 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.520 that in terms of guarantees. I think you got him 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:53.879 on a pretty good deal and also too right just 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.879 the fact that Brian Winners and Max Garcia are back 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.639 right there. I saw Mason Cole as a guy that 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.560 might battle for that right guard position, but maybe a 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.400 guy that was going to back up, be a move guy, 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:08.919 a guy that can play center and guard of course, 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.440 and maybe right now it's Brian Winners and Max Garcia 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:16.000 that will cover that. Correct. That's what makes sense to me. 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.439 And ultimately, if you go into training camp with a 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.359 bunch of extra gise, you're going to be trying to 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.280 trade them at some point for a pick when you 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.360 realize somebody's not going to make the team. And then 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.479 by that time teams can could possibly wait you out 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.040 because they know you're going to cut them. So I 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.000 think be proactive and getting an extra draft pick in 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:37.520 this draft makes a lot of sense. A little bit 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.200