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Speaker 1: then and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal Poison Girls.

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Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over

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Speaker 1: there in the Chicago Burbs, the one the only Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good?

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Speaker 2: And full disclosure because this is a show about honesty.

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Speaker 2: We all may I probably make a lot more mistakes

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Speaker 1: Three? Two? Have you ever listened to a podcast where

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Speaker 1: really not much I can do at this point. But no,

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Speaker 1: other shows in full disclosure, because this is a show

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Speaker 1: about honesty. Yes it is. The words that I stumbled

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Speaker 1: long Monday afternoon. But yes, I've heard the edits okay, good.

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Speaker 1: It's the It was the annual text slash call after

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, today also happens to be a day in

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Speaker 2: the solid verbal. I'm happy to tye. I had to

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Speaker 2: But I'm here to explain whatever you need now.

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Speaker 1: way of news, Daniel, No, neither do. I am ready

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Speaker 1: to bracketologize, bracketologize. So the tournament, the actual basketball tournament starts,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to I have sixteen items in my sixteen

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Speaker 2: the sixteenth seed is not the least likely in my mind.

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Speaker 2: especially sixteen plus Clemson long scrimmage plays allowed. They allowed

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Speaker 1: Oh man, this is extremely difficult. There is no chance

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm on twelve here. There's just no way Kentucky's

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Speaker 2: No Oh you're doing this in quadrants? How are you

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Speaker 1: We still have seven verses ten, three verses fourteen? Is

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Speaker 1: twelve titles for Oregon. They've already won two.

429
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Speaker 2: They would add that crown, the triple crown, or fourteen

430
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: plus total wins for two of the three other Pacific Northwest.

431
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: I think it's the Cascade Cup. I forget what they

432
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: call it. Washington Schools fourteen plus total wins for the

433
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: Washington Schools, or a pack twelve crown this year for Oregon,

434
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: making it three straight.

435
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: Ooh, by the way, there's a decided twelve Days of

436
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: Christmas feel to this game. Now that I'm great. It

437
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: took me four matchups for five matchups now to catch

438
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: on that this is what you were doing. But okay,

439
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: so we're going pack twelve title for Oregon versus fourteen

440
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: or more total wins for the Washington schools. I think

441
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: I go Oregon here.

442
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: Really, you don't like the trending directions of Wazoo and

443
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: you so Wazoo had a completely abysmal defense this past year,

444
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: and that one in three shortened season, completely abysmal. That's okay,

445
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 2: that can be improved upon. Defense is about effort. Washington

446
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: had an efficient offense, but no huge playmakers, and defensively

447
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: probably not where they should have been. They got pushed

448
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: around a little bit upfront. So well, Washington and Wazoo,

449
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: we're talking about an average of seven wins apiece, you know,

450
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: nine for U DUB five for Wazoo. That's fourteen eight and.

451
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: Six ten four. Feel great about Washington. I'm not crazy

452
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: about Wazoo. That's the thing. That's the thing that I

453
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: have trouble without. I know, That's why I'm not crazy.

454
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about Wazoo, and I'm I'm mixed on Washington.

455
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: You seem to be higher on Jimmy Lake, but I'm

456
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: kind of mixed on Washington myself. But yeah, yeah, well

457
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: even still, I think you're higher on the Huskies than

458
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: I am. Like the I like the hire of Jimmy Lake.

459
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed at all to Jimmy Lake. Everything we've

460
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: heard has been really positive. I like it they promoted

461
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: from within, that they established continuity. But last season quote

462
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: unquote last season four games whatever they played, like, that's shit.

463
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: Not you can't take anything from last season seriously, in

464
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: my view, it kind of all goes out the windows.

465
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: So I feel like we still don't know a whole

466
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: lot about what Washington's going to look like under Jimmy Lake.

467
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: We know they've got a quarterback coming in that everyone's

468
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: very excited about, but I just there's too many variables there,

469
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: and I really just know they have a quarterback that

470
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: exists already there. I know, yeah, I know, But Washington

471
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: is clearly the better of the two schools in that equation. Wazoo.

472
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm just.

473
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: You kind of need to find five or six Wazoo wins,

474
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: which is becoming difficult. So if you want to say

475
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: Utah State and was it Prairie State. That's who they're

476
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: playing Week two. Oh, excuse me, not Prairie Portland. Excuse me,

477
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: I didn't recognize the Vikings logo. Portland State and Utah State.

478
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: Good shot, Uta State first year coach, and Blake Anderson.

479
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: We'll see. I like Milake Anderson.

480
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: Portland State's a likely win. An Arizona at home November nineteen,

481
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: likely win. Outside of that, we've got BYU that's sandwiched

482
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: in there between Stanford and Arizona State on the road

483
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: in October, and then it's at Cal at Utah USC

484
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: Oregon State at home. So if you want to say

485
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: Oregon State and what Cal in terms of close calls,

486
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: enough that gets you to five maximizing five, which means

487
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: you need nine from U.

488
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: Doub right.

489
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: Oregon has a pretty big question market quarterback, new defensive coordinator,

490
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: a good amount of experience on offense overall, and a

491
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: pretty high talent level on defense. I'm going to go

492
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: for schedule. I'm going with Oregon. I'm going to go

493
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: with your ducks, Dan, I'm going to go with your ducks.

494
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm not sure. Against the bites of the apple theory,

495
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm crazy about Oregon either, right, Like,

496
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: how do we feel about Anthony Brown leading the Orgon Ducks.

497
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: You think that's a good situation.

498
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: I don't think they're a top twelve team in the

499
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: country with Anthony Brown, but I think they can win

500
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: games and position themselves somehow if they win the correct

501
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: games to win the North and give themselves a shot

502
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: at winning the conference. But my understanding is Anthony Brown

503
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: will start, and depending on the development of ty Thompson

504
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: or I mean it's probably ty Thompson his development early

505
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: and roly big time quarterback freshmen, depending on his development

506
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: and readiness, They'll make a decision at some point. But

507
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: Anthony Brown's obviously the guy with Tyler Schuck transferring, So

508
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: I think they are overall in a B minus quarterback situation,

509
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: which can be good enough to win a bunch of

510
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: games in the Pac twe twelve, but nothing important nationally

511
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: seven ten seven or higher final regular season rank of

512
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

513
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: Or lower going the other one.

514
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: I got a toffee though Michigan, Penn State, or Wisconsin

515
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: finish with ten plus wins one of them any of

516
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: those three. It's seven ten seven is the regular season

517
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: rank or higher for Notre Dame. Ten is the number

518
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: of wins for either Michigan, Penn State, or Wisconsin.

519
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: Oh, it's it's one hundred percent. The ten plus wins.

520
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 1: There's no chance Notre Dame is going to be finished.

521
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: Kade McNamara, Sean Clifford, Grammertz, Oh God, why do you

522
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: have to do that to me? Yeah? First off, Sean

523
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: Clifford is not going to be the quarterback? Can get

524
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: Can we get get that out there? I think quarterback

525
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: James Franklin made a comment that I saw floating around

526
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: on Twitter earlier today, so friends were sending it around

527
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: that James Franklin wants to see what to Kwan Roberson

528
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: and Christian Vio can can do out there. Quote. We

529
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 1: want to feel like we can put those guys in

530
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: a game and win with them. So I interpret that

531
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: as they're gonna they're gonna give them a serious look.

532
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: Can we just agree that Penn State's going to be

533
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: done with Sean Clifford and it's going to be one

534
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 1: of these other guys. I don't know if that necessarily

535
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: makes them better, but it's not going to make them

536
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: any more disorganized on offense, especially now with your series.

537
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: So they're gonna win ten games Penn State with a

538
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: brand new quarterback. I don't feel great about that, But

539
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: so is that the team of those three that you

540
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: feel best about. I feel pretty good about Penn State. Yeah,

541
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: I do. I do, And if I'm ranking them in order,

542
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: I probably go Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan.

543
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: You're not a Kade McNamara. I know it's but I

544
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: like cawde and or JJ McCarthy and becoming five star freshmen.

545
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: Not yet, Okay, that could change by week one.

546
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: But and you don't think Jack Cone can lead Notre Dame.

547
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what their schedule looks like to a

548
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: high ranking, a playoff ish ranking.

549
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: All right, let me pull this up. Rose bull Cone,

550
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: Rose king Cone, King Cone. King Cone is the official Moniker. Sorry,

551
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm pulling this up. My gut reaction was, there's no

552
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: way but road tilt against Florida State, Toledo, Perdue, Wisconsin. Okay,

553
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: some crossover Cincinnati and Virginia Tech, USC North Carolina, Navy,

554
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: Virginia Georg. Oh my god, they could go. They could

555
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: go twelve to zero. With this man, you are going

556
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: to make a fool out of me here. You're going

557
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I might have to. I didn't realize the

558
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: schedule looked like this.

559
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, who are the likeliest losses for Notre Dame on

560
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: that schedule?

561
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: Cincy? That's market Freeman. He knows that team. USC. Yeah.

562
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: Can I answer USC twice? I don't. North Carolina lost

563
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: everybody with the exception of Seam Howell. Yeah, so they're

564
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: sort of in rebuilding mode. The defense actually has interesting

565
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: pieces though it does. But this this feels like easily

566
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: a ten and two season for note rightwause they do

567
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: bring a lot back. Yeah. Man, fine, I'll go Notre Dame.

568
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: Damn it. Why do you seven? Yeah? Yeah?

569
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, So do we only have one left for round matchup?

570
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: We've got a two verses fifteen here. Oh and then

571
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: we also have six eleven and we have six eleven,

572
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 1: So let's do six? Will go? Next six to eleven?

573
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: Next six total years of Lane kiff and in Oxford, Mississippi.

574
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: So he needs five more twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,

575
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: twenty four, or twenty five. You'll give him six total

576
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: years or eleven combined wins in the next two years

577
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: in Knoxville.

578
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: In Knoxville, not.

579
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: For Lane Kiffen for Tennessee and overall, not just home games.

580
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: A six winner and a five winner on average, Tennessee

581
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: can win seven this year. It's likely that they're going

582
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: to hit or eclipse that number.

583
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: I don't think Lane Kiffin's going to stay at Old

584
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: Miss for six years? What's the job though? I don't know.

585
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: You think he's getting fired for some sort of No,

586
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: I think acties. I think he step up for Lane?

587
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: What school hires him? What school wants all the good,

588
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: bad and weird of Lane Kiffin? What's that jump up

589
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: from Ole Miss Florida?

590
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: Damn, Allen's going to be around at Florida. He'sami Florida State.

591
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: Oh man, maybe it might be the NFL, could be

592
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 1: the NFL. I just don't see him staying for six

593
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: years at Old Miss. And I like the Old Miss job.

594
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: He obviously does. He m he had his pick of

595
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: the proverbial litter there, but probably not Saban retirement Bama.

596
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't see them going to Do you think they

597
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: would give Lene a look? No? I don't think so,

598
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: not the way things ended, I don't think. I don't

599
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: think he would do that, So.

600
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: I think they're probably I think they might go as

601
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: far as letting Nick Saban have that voice in that

602
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: conversation if he wants it.

603
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: I think I gotta go. I think I gotta go

604
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: with Tennessee being Tennessee wins.

605
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we need like a if things are rough

606
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: because of how thin the roster is, we need to

607
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: hit five or four or five this year, which is

608
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 2: a tough ask.

609
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: That's a thin roster right now. Yeah, but you could,

610
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: you could cobble together. You could go very easily four

611
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: wins this year in seven next year. Are you do?

612
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: You have the schedule in front of you and yours

613
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: Tennessee football schedule. They could win four games this year, though,

614
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: couldn't they Bowling Green who just lost Brian van Gorder

615
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: like the.

616
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: Night before spring right right, So that's additioned by a

617
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: subtraction to me, pitt uh TNTC.

618
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: Is that Tennessee Tech? Is that Tennessee Tech the Golden Eagles? Yeah,

619
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: they call it. They have Southma, they have Vandy on here.

620
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: They could win easily three four, So I think I

621
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: think five is likely. They're at least going to win

622
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: one more. Five is likely. Yeah, and they and if

623
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: we're assuming the best, they would improve upon that mark

624
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. I'm looking at the schedule now, yeah,

625
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean Ball State, Pit, Army, U T. Martin. But

626
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: just penciling in Pitt as a loss to Tennessee. No,

627
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm penciling in as a win. No, I'm saying you're

628
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: saying Pitt. You're penciling as a loss. Pitt is losing

629
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: to Tennessee in this game. I am yeah, Oh my god,

630
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: I think I think I go Tennessee here. There's just

631
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: there's no chancelling staying there for six years. Give me

632
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: the next matchup in the second round. Well, we have

633
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: do the two and fifteen yet, don't we oh two fifteen?

634
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Here we go? Two regular season wins over

635
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: Oklahoma schools by Texas. Texas plays both Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

636
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: Actually I think it's in consecutive weeks. The Oklahoma State

637
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: game is in Austin, and as we all know, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas, Oklahoma,

638
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: whatever your preference, as it is every year in Dallas.

639
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: You're saying they beat both Oklahoma schools.

640
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: Yes, regular season, So any potential rematch in a conference

641
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 2: championship game does not count. Regular season?

642
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: Oh, okay or or fifteen total games played by Oklahoma,

643
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: So they could lose to Texas hypothetically in this scenario

644
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: and still play fifteen games to go, you know, eleven

645
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: to one when the conference championship game end up in

646
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: the playoff, win a game, go to the national championship game.

647
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: So this means it's just games played. It's essentially saying

648
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: Oklahoma National Championship game birth or Texas beating Oklahoma and

649
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State in consecutive weeks. Wow, I don't think, man,

650
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: that's tough. I don't think Texas is going to and

651
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: zero Okay and beating both the Oklahoma schools during the

652
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: regular season, and I feel Oklahoma. I feel more strongly

653
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: about that then I do Oklahoma's prospects of making the

654
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: national Championship game because still Spencer Rattler back start a

655
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: lot of younger guys last year.

656
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Sure lost their best defensive player in Ronnie Perkins, though

657
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: terror on the edge.

658
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't play defense anyway. What differences is Oh,

659
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: that's not true at all. What difference does it make?

660
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: That's not true at all. This is an improved defense, sure,

661
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: sure it is. I'll go Oklahoma.

662
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: Here for the record, I think you're wrong about the

663
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: Oklahoma defense. So this what you're saying, though, is also

664
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 2: Oklahoma can max lose one game in the Big Twelve,

665
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: and Oklahoma will beat some combination, not some combination, but

666
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: one of these schools. They'll beat Ohio State, they'll beat Clemson,

667
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: they'll beat Alabama, they'll beat whoever may come out of

668
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve unscathed throughout eleven and one twelve one.

669
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: They'll beat Georgia, they'll beat I don't Notre Dame. There'll

670
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: be one of those types of schools in late December,

671
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: early January, Texas, A and M.

672
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: I still think that's more likely than Texas going to

673
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: and oh LSU because they got the offense. You know

674
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna two games, it's all it takes. Yeah, but

675
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: Texas hasn't beaten both them.

676
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: No chance they were an overtime or however many overtimes

677
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: against Oklahoma last year, and I believe that didn they

678
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: bleat Oklahoma State. Yeah, not crazy overtime game, sure, I

679
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 2: just I don't see any chance. Okay, no chance, no chance,

680
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: two games, No chance they'll be in a rhythm by then.

681
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: It's October, October, October, thank you, Yes, Texas did indeed

682
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: beat Oklahoma State in overtime last year.

683
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 1: It was a a crazy game, all right. So let's

684
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: go back through then and let's do it. Round two.

685
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: You got we've got the sixteen or sixteen or more

686
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: long scrimmage plays allowed by Clemson. Yep versus nine plus

687
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: win Duke Accus Tech, give it to me. I think

688
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: I go Duke Acuse Tech.

689
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: So now you think this is less likely you're you're

690
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: taking the bites off the apple.

691
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Duke Accuse Tech. Three three teams combined,

692
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: giving me a chance to get to nine or more wins. Okay, next, next,

693
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: we've got the fighting corn boilers thirteen combined wins makes

694
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: me giggle. Yep versus Georgia twelve wins, fighting corn boilers

695
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: thirteen combined wins. I think I go george corn Boilers.

696
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: Which of those those boiler of boilers of corn that fights?

697
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: Which Which of those do you feel is going to

698
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: be pulling their own weight the most? Pulling their own

699
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: weight the most? Yeah?

700
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: Like, is Illinois really carrying perdue in Nebraska?

701
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: Tosa? Probably the unforeseen thirteen.

702
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: And going to come up with something Nebraska's shoulder in

703
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 2: the load.

704
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah I do. Okay, because look, Nebraska and Purdue they

705
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: could each get five wins. Illinois got to get three.

706
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and they still hit that. So yeah, corn

707
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Boilers right here.

708
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: Corn Boilers over Georgia and high success level. Okay, next item.

709
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: We've got three straight pack twelve titles for Oregon versus

710
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: eleven combined wins in next two years in Knoxville.

711
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So this it's requiring what is what is the

712
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: easier path searching out and finding those eleven wins in

713
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: two years? You can go five and seven, six and six,

714
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: you hit it. You can be unexceptional and win this matchup,

715
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: or you have to be at least good if you're

716
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: Oregon to hit this one. So basically, what I'm saying is,

717
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 2: are you betting on the shine of mediocrity or.

718
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: Positivity? The attraction of positivity? Hm? Wow, I'm going eleven

719
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: combined wins? Eleven combined wins? Okay, you're going with the

720
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: high floor rather than the low bar. That's correct. Okay.

721
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: Next matchup? Oh god, this one Oklahoma with fifteen games

722
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: played versus Notre Dame rest Championship, Notre Dame playoff or

723
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: playoff A J oh god, I hate this one. It's

724
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: got to be Notre Dame. It's it has to be

725
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

726
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: It has to be Notre Dame. So Oklahoma one of,

727
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: if not the only. I'm trying to think, like, depending

728
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: on how you classify Georgia, but certainly JD. Daniels didn't

729
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: start the season, Oklahoma is either the only or if

730
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: I'm forgetting somebody to bring back their starting quarterback.

731
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that's right, that's right. So that sort of

732
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: continuity is really attractive. See. No, you don't break through

733
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: until you do. This is why this is bull You're

734
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: arguing both sides of the coin here. You're doing this

735
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: to me on purpose. Yeah, of course, continue. I'm just

736
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: trying to give you my viewpoint trying to give you.

737
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to arm you with all of the possible

738
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: context and information. Knowledge is power, Okay, yep, yeah, I'll

739
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: go Notre Dame. I don't know what do you think.

740
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 2: If I'm deciding between Jack Cone Notre Dame winning likely

741
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: eleven plus or Oklahoma realistically going thirteen and one to

742
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 2: reach game number fifteen, that a blemish won't affect their

743
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: title run. But to say that they're going to be

744
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: fourteen and h is probably a lot considering that they're

745
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: not a complete team right now.

746
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: So you go Notre Dame too. I think I'm going

747
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

748
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: I think it's really hard to do what I'm asking

749
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: Oklahoma to do now. They're a playoff team and Notre

750
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: Dame has been a top seven team, what two of

751
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: the last three years, to last four years, whatever it is,

752
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: so Notre Dame's barrier to entry. I'm looking up their

753
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: schedule right now because I didn't have it when you

754
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: said Cincinnati and USC were the toughest two.

755
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: Cincinnati USC there's a game against Virginia Tech, I think

756
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: on the road. That doesn't bother me that much. Where

757
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: Wisconsin game. There's a Wisconsin game, the USC games at

758
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

759
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so we've got a Wisconsin game against a legitimately

760
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: very very good defensive coordinator who knows in some form

761
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: Jack Cone.

762
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: Right.

763
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: We like Jim Leonard. We think he's a promising there.

764
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: He's a young defense wearing but really good. So we

765
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: have Jim Leonard Wisconsin defense. We have non Marcus Freeman

766
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 2: Cincinnati defense. We've got pretty good but definitely talented USC

767
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: defense with a really good quarterback, and that game is

768
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: in South Bend. We've got Sam Howell, who struggled with

769
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: more talent last year, to consistently move the ball and

770
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: score touchdowns against Notre Dame. We have a Notre Dame

771
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: team with their own new defensive coordinator. Mind you, but

772
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: I don't know how much Stanford scares you. Virginia at

773
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: this point, Navy. Navy's an interesting maybe let down look

774
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: ahead sandwich, I guess. But yeah, the back half of

775
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: their schedule seems fine, but you know that's not an

776
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: amazing middle season stretch of Wisconsin, Cincinnati, Virginia Tech on

777
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: the road USC North Carolina. Now four of the five

778
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 2: of those are at home, unless there are some neutral

779
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 2: site that I'm not seeing. So I don't love tough

780
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: five game stretches. But even still, there's no that the

781
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 2: loss isn't obvious unless you're a big believer in Wisconsin.

782
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: I guess it's not obvious. I hate that. I hate

783
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: that you put me in this situation, but the answer

784
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: is probably Notre Dame. It's got to be Notre Dame,

785
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: all right.

786
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: The down still down. Florida State, Cincinnati replacing key guys.

787
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're down to the semifinals here. Okay, what's

788
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: the matchup? Nine plus win Duke Accuse Tech versus thirteen

789
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: combined wins for the fighting corn boilers.

790
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: That came together nicely. It's almost used the apple biting.

791
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: No, no, we've got three bites of the apple in

792
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: both cases. I think I go nine win, nine plus

793
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: win Duke Accuse Tech. It's a low bar, lower bar

794
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: to clear. Yeah, I think that's the answer here.

795
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: But I think the the competence quotion is probably higher

796
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: with Nebraska and Purdue. I don't think Duke is trending

797
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: in the right way. The Syracuse offense is such a

798
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: mess still, and Georgia Tech is just a propensity to

799
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: let the bottom fall out, even with their you know,

800
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: you know how I feel about Jamior Gibbs. But okay,

801
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: you're going with that nine win.

802
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: Ducuse Tech lower bar three wins apiece. Okay. And if

803
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: you get a school like a Georgia Tech that you

804
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: know plays hard, has played hard, really hard the last

805
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: two years, m hm, they get bull eligible, it's a

806
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: near certainty that you're going to hit. Okay, Duke Accuse

807
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: Tech through to the finals, Dan through to the finals.

808
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: Duke Acuse Tech second matchup here, yep, eleven combide wins.

809
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: Next two years in Knoxville or Notre Dame ranks seventh

810
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: or higher.

811
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: So once again, it's excellence versus mediocrity. Eleven combined wins.

812
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: You get to pick this one. Don't make me do this.

813
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: Because does Tennessee's non conference twenty twenty two schedule exist online?

814
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Who is it?

815
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: Ball State, Pit Army, UT Martin. So even if you

816
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: want to play it super conservatively, that's three wins. What

817
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: it's three wins? Is not a Tennessee team that just

818
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: lost to the Panthers of Georgia State. I'm assuming the

819
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: best here. Okay, forgive me. They shouldn't lose I just

820
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: whistled they shouldn't lose the Ball State Army or UT Martin.

821
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: They shouldn't lose the Pit either, but they could.

822
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: What do you mean, shouldn't lose to Pitt. Pitt's been fine.

823
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: They've been a five hundred program.

824
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if not better worst case scenario, it's a

825
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: three win non conference slate for them. Okay, Army Army

826
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: has been pretty decent. They're not. Okay, can you please

827
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: answer the question, Dan, so, am I taking the Notre

828
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: Dame or I'm going Tennessee? I think I think Tennessee's

829
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: the answer here. I'm going Tennessee.

830
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: I think it's tough for teams without the upper upper

831
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: upper level of talent and depth thereof to go to

832
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: the playoff and back to back seasons.

833
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: So I think Notre Dame will go ten and two

834
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: with that schedule and missed the playoff. So that brings

835
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: us to our final. Although they could go they could

836
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: finish number seven in the country at tenant too, which

837
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: is all I'm asking here. This brings us to our final. Then, yeah,

838
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: we've got nine plus wins, excessive mediocrity. Yeah, Duke accues

839
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: Tech with nine plus wins or eleven or more wins

840
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: in Knoxville over the next two years. Dan, Oh, this

841
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: is tough. I still extreme difficult Tech.

842
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: Duke accuse Tech because of the four non conference games

843
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: they play. What if I were to say, it's only

844
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you have all three schedules

845
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: in front of you, only FBS games count, so you

846
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: have to take away.

847
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: All you can't change the rules. Now, Well, I'm just

848
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: asking it's just a wrinkle, that's that's no. I would

849
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: probably go no. I would probably say no if you

850
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: have to take off FCS matchups. No, I'm not feeling

851
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: as good about that. But you know, Duke did not

852
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: have a good year last year. He did not have

853
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: a RIP year last year. But they play North Carolina

854
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: A and T in Kansas this season. Those should both

855
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: be w's. Then we move over, hold on, let me

856
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: finish this. Then we move over to Syracuse, who also

857
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: did not have a great year last year. But again

858
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: looking at the schedule, they've got a game against Ohio

859
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: and the Albany Great Danes. So we're not counting that though. No,

860
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: we still are counting that. You can't change the rules

861
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: on me. Yeah, that's two more wins. And then we

862
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: go over to Georgia Tech. And I like Georgia Tech.

863
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech is building under Jeff Collins or I think

864
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: playing hard week in and week out. They've got games

865
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: here against Northern Illinois, Kanesaus State, they play Duke, who

866
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: they should be able to beat. I mean, it's not obvious, Okay.

867
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: So here's what you do need. This is added context.

868
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: If I may it's not obvious. Oh no, twenty twenty

869
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, these three teams added up to five wins.

870
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen, the added up to seven wins.

871
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: You scoundrel. This is tough. This is I think I

872
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 1: assume too much. But I'm still going Duke a QS

873
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: Tech in I am still going Duke que Tech.

874
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: By the way, that was I was using ACC Conference

875
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 2: games to get those numbers. If you want the full

876
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 2: I should have been obviously my question. I wasn't, so

877
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm giving it to you. So it's three, five and five.

878
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: So it was thirteen two years ago. Okay, okay, If

879
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: that makes you feel any better, okay, okay.

880
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: I feel better. No, okay, I still go Duke Accuse

881
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: Tech here.

882
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: If I made it ACC games only, would that change anything? Yes,

883
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: So you would go Tennessee to hit eleven overall the

884
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 2: next two years before you would take ACC wins between Duke,

885
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 2: Syracuse and Georgia Tech.

886
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: To equal nine.

887
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was six overall last year between those three.

888
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: I think Syracuse won and ten Duke to a nine

889
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech three.

890
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 1: I think I go Tennessee in that case, I think I'd.

891
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: Have to Tennessee's eleven over Duke Accuse Tech's nine ACC wins.

892
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. Okay, so Tennessee eleven

893
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: wins is overall your champion. No, Duke acus Tech is

894
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: still much Duke acus Tech is your overall champion unless

895
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: ACC games are used. Yeah, Duke Accus Tech, what an

896
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: unexpected What are they a nine seed? Yeah? Because it's nine.

897
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't see it anything.

898
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: But okay, so the nine win Duke acus Tech is

899
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: your We have no name for this game our item bracket.

900
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: Okay.

901
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: Wow, I did not expect that from making this bracket.

902
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: I definitely didn't. Yeah, I actually expected.

903
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: This is the most love of Duke acus Tech is

904
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: going to get all year. Oh man, we need to

905
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: keep track of this somewhat. I'll keep this document. I'll

906
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: create a Google doc so we can track it over

907
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: the course of the year. All right, I have it.

908
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: I have see what I nailed thing, and maybe somebody

909
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: out on the Patreon can help us out as well.

910
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: First dot com.

911
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: But uh also I want to know what anybody Patreon

912
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 2: non Patreon, who they have winning and where we really

913
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 2: messed up our bracket.

914
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, where they have who they have winning? This bracket

915
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: and who they have winning the actual bracket too. Oh,

916
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: are we doing that? I don't know if we're doing it,

917
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: but I'd like to know what I'm missing and like

918
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: who the sleepers are, because generally what I'll do I

919
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: don't usually watch a lot of college basketball because it's

920
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: not that I have anything against it, but by the

921
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: time basketball season rolls around, I'm just looking for like

922
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: sports detox for a couple months after what we do

923
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: throughout the fall and into January. It's not really what

924
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: you've been watching just watching Netflix. Man, tell me what

925
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 1: you've been watching and watching this marriage or mortgage show?

926
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: Did you yet?

927
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 2: I watched twenty minutes of it, Jody, and I was

928
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: watching it while feeding the little guy. Yeah, it's incredible, frustrating.

929
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have an opinion about it.

930
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: It's so the concept marriage or mortgage is you have

931
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: a certain amount of money to either spend on a

932
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: down payment for a house or the house itself I

933
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 2: don't even know, yeah, or for the for like a

934
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: super nice wedding.

935
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: That's correct. Yeah, And then what they do is they

936
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: try to sweeten the post a little bit. So is

937
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: it a full house or is it a mortgage or

938
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: or is it a down payment? It's well they're saying,

939
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: we have X amount of money to use on a

940
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: down payment, got on a wedding, and then it's it's

941
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: very much a love it or leave it type show

942
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: if you've loved or listed excuse me if you've seen

943
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: some of the old shows. And I forget what network

944
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: that was, but HGTV something like that. Yeah, yeah, And

945
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: instead the spin off is you can either devote that

946
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: money to your wedding where they're going to jump in,

947
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: they're going to get you a great deal with all

948
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: sorts of perks a wedding or your dreams, or they're

949
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: going to get you a nice deal on a house

950
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: where you know the owners or the builders provide some

951
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: concessions too. What's frustrating about it?

952
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: I think it's a really good I mean, I think

953
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: it's always obvious to me that you should spend money

954
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: on something you're going to be using for decades rather

955
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 2: than a single day. But I understand having a nice wedding,

956
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: So what is frustrating to about it?

957
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: What's frustrating to me is that, and keep in mind,

958
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: I come from like both sides of our family are

959
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: very traditional, right, so the prospect of like buying a

960
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: house before marriage is not really something that was much considered.

961
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: But it's just so obvious when you're looking at these

962
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: two like maybe in hindsight, well they're engaged, right, they're engaged. Yeah,

963
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: in hindsight, out of bounds to say we should look

964
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 1: for a house. In hindsight, I'm looking at these selections

965
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: and I'm screaming at the television at eleven thirty at night.

966
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: Take the house, Take the house, Take the They take

967
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: the wedding, they take the What is the rationale of

968
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: the people who take the wedding? They just they're just wowed.

969
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: They're just wowed. Yeah, oh they got us the troths seduced.

970
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: Oh I did see that was when I saw I

971
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: think in Nashville. Yeah, who cares about the trolley, it's

972
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: probably cold. Just take the damn house.

973
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: What and be careful what you say? What percentage would

974
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: you now in retrospect, cut your wedding by financially if

975
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: you could put it to your mortgage?

976
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean we've talked about this, okay, and I

977
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: talked about this while watching the show. What was your total?

978
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: What was your total attendee list numbers. I don't like

979
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: two hundred. It wasn't that many. Now I forget the four.

980
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: What would your new number be? Knowing that you could,

981
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, book a smaller venue and order less food

982
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: and rent fewer chairs, all that kind of stuff. We've

983
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: we've had the conversation before, where you a sixty person wedding.

984
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: If we'd do it all over again, we'd get it

985
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: done at the courthouse and then throw a party in

986
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: the backyard. It's so obvious. It is obvious, but it's

987
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: less frustration. How many people could you invite to your backyard?

988
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: Though every lister of this show could probably No, you

989
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: have a big yard, we get it, no idea, okay,

990
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: but at least the number of people who came to

991
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: the wedding. Okay. Wow.

992
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: By the way, I have noticed, and I don't know

993
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: if there's a specific reason for this, Maybe it's just

994
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: because there's fewer episodes. Have you noticed that Netflix reality

995
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: shows have way better production value than your typical cable No, it's.

996
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: Not a reality show, it's not even all They all

997
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: include My favorite, my favorite tell for all Netflix shows

998
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: is duct and value wise, Yeah, they've got the production

999
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: value it's it's way higher. But they've all got the

1000
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: dramatic drone shot at some point, all featured the dramatic

1001
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: drone shot. Yep, every sun seton over Hollywood, every Netflix

1002
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: show has that interesting.

1003
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm watching Dog Day Afternoon. I'm just going through,

1004
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: like I don't have time to sit down and watch

1005
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: an actual long movie because I am, you know, two

1006
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: little guys, and now I'm also tired all the time,

1007
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: so I don't have to like two and a half

1008
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: hours to sit down and watch a nineteen seventy six

1009
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: al Pacino movie. But I am almost done with Dog

1010
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: Day Afternoon and it is great.

1011
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: Have you seen it?

1012
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: No, who's in that's it's al Pacino. There's not that

1013
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: many other famous people in. I'm trying to think of

1014
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: the people in it. I know the guy who plays Sam,

1015
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: his accomplished, his accomplice. Excuse me, it's Sonny and Sam.

1016
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: He's fan because he played Fredo I believe in The Godfather.

1017
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: Now I'm forgetting his name. But I'm trying to go

1018
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: through like classic, amazing movies that I haven't seen that

1019
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: I can just sort of pick up and watch thirty

1020
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: eight minutes of at a time, so it's fantastic. It's

1021
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: really really John Kazzali. Kazali plays the side and he

1022
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: was also Fredo and The Godfather Charles Derning. Believe it's

1023
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: I know it's Sidney Lumette is the director, all time director,

1024
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: but al Pacino and al Pacino's hair it's a sensations.

1025
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: He has like sweaty summer in Brooklyn hair but a

1026
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: giant mop at the same time. And it's an all

1027
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 2: time hair performance from al Pachiaz.

1028
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: Hair hero, okay, an absolute hair hero. So I'm watching

1029
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: that right now. I haven't been watching any other I

1030
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: watched loopin, Loopin, Okay, that was pretty decent on Netflix.

1031
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: Something consistent in my life, by the way, is anytime

1032
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: I want to know what's good to watch, ask your

1033
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 2: single or friends without children, and they'll be like, what

1034
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: are you looking for? Yeah, I have forty seven recommendations

1035
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: and I have no time to watch anything.

1036
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 1: Well, look on that note, so savor it. On that note.

1037
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: We've been talking about the Patreon for Ballers dot com.

1038
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: This is that week where we do it off topic

1039
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: show and oh though we haven't I guess come to

1040
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: agreement on what the topic's going to be. I do

1041
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: know that one we had in the in the clip

1042
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: that we didn't use last time, Whoever was like childhood movies,

1043
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: So right, the Mighty Ducks the Sandlot doesn't just have

1044
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: to be sports, but the influence that some of those

1045
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: movies had in our lives growing up. I think that

1046
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: would be a fun show to do.

1047
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 2: So do you want to limit it? Do you want

1048
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: to sort of narrow the scope to nineties kids sports movies?

1049
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: I could do that.

1050
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: Or do you want it to just be nineties kids movies?

1051
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: Or do you want it to be like Puberty Awakening nineties.

1052
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: But not anything pornographic? Right?

1053
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: Just Tie being sleazy adjacent? No, I mean it could be.

1054
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: Dan being sleezy jacent for what it's worthing.

1055
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 2: I have all the texts from you that I could

1056
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: just read out. Sure, I think we do nineties kids

1057
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: sports movie, nineties kids sports movie, and I think we

1058
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: bring on I'll see if Bill's around, Okay, we'll find

1059
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: somebody to come on with us.

1060
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill or somebody. I love Bill so much. Though,

1061
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: the deal with the deal with the off topic show again,

1062
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: it's only available to Patreon subscribers going out to Verballers

1063
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: Dot com for more information. The last one we did

1064
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: is also available still for Patreon subscribers, and that was

1065
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: youth sports. We talked through this sort of a continuation

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Speaker 1: then kinda yeah, it feels like a natural offshoot. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about ninety sports movies for kids on

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Speaker 1: the show that's going to drop on Friday. For our

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Speaker 1: Patreon subscribers, verballers.

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Speaker 2: Dot com, done, lock it in, give us suggestions and

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Speaker 2: give us your takes.

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Speaker 1: Soliverbletgmail dot com. You can also hit us up on

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Speaker 1: the soliverrable discord if you are part of that Patreon

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Speaker 1: community and let us know your thoughts on social media.

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Speaker 1: As always, for that guy over there, my good friend

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hilden Brand, we will talk

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Speaker 1: to you all on Thursday. In the meantime, stay soler, peace,