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Speaker 1: M What's griftin mcconman, I'm Robert Evans. This is Behind

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Speaker 1: the Bastards, the show where every week we talked about

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Speaker 1: the very worst people in all of history. And I

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Speaker 1: also try out a new introduction. This one was not

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Speaker 1: as inspired as the other ones, for which I apologize.

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Speaker 1: I I just couldn't come up with another. What's boiling

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Speaker 1: my pigannus is today? Which is ironic because I boiled

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Speaker 1: some pigannuses this morning to eat for breakfast. Sharne, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing today? That sounds so literally, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: so good, so good. It is delicious. You know, they're

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Speaker 1: basically calamari. They're so they're like kinda tangy and tender tender.

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Speaker 1: Oh you don't eat meat, well, boiled pig gannuses are

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Speaker 1: barely meat. I mean they're vegan. I'd say we've already

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Speaker 1: just the last episode we were on, we mentioned but

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Speaker 1: holes pretty late into the episode. But we're just right

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Speaker 1: out the gate just talking about both holes again. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're right out the gate, which and you know, when

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Speaker 1: you think about it, Scherine, right out the gate could

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Speaker 1: even be a butthole reference. Yeah, when you poop what happens.

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Speaker 1: It goes right out the gate. It goes right out

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Speaker 1: the gate into what's it called the ivory, ivory throne,

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Speaker 1: the ivory throne or the top the hood of a

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Speaker 1: cop car wherever you prefer to go to the restroom.

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Speaker 1: I don't judge, or at least poop on their cars.

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Speaker 1: That seems a little bit less aggressive than fucking them, um,

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Speaker 1: because you know, consent and stuff. Um. Anyway, my guest

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Speaker 1: this week is Sharne Lonnie Units, co host of the

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Speaker 1: ethnically ambiguous podcast Cage Fighter, and uh, facts a fact.

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Speaker 1: You're a fact? Facts. I said fact like like, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm the co host and yes, it's facts are both facts. Yes, Uh,

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Speaker 1: listeners will be interested to know that Sharine only does

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Speaker 1: recording sessions with tape around her knuckles covered in broken

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Speaker 1: glass in case she needs to get into a cage fight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's actually that was coffential information that I only shared with,

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Speaker 1: uh my colleagues. So I'm glad you've shared that with

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Speaker 1: the whole world. Now I guess my secrets out. I'm

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Speaker 1: a badass. You do a lot of damage to the

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Speaker 1: microphone stands. So we we've we've been having some issues

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Speaker 1: as a result of all the glass on your wrists.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm sorry. I already paid back the office.

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Speaker 1: I gave them the money to to to repair the microbone.

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Speaker 1: And it's not my problem anymore, you know, it's there's

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Speaker 1: speaking of people who are everybody's problem. You know who

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about today, Serene, I do, Oh

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Speaker 1: I do. We're revisiting an ex of mine that we

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Speaker 1: talked about before we had an intimate but brief relationship

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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, where we both discussed him.

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Speaker 1: Uh and now he's back in my life. What can

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Speaker 1: I say? Um? Now, now he's back in all of

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Speaker 1: our lives because he refuses to leave. Today we are

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Speaker 1: talking about our dear friend and special boy, Jacob Wool.

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Speaker 1: Special boy, what a special special boy. Punch of my face.

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Speaker 1: When we when we last talked about Jacob, I ended

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Speaker 1: that episode with the line. As of this episode, Jacob

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Speaker 1: Wowl is still under investigation by the FBI. He is

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Speaker 1: also still on Twitter now today, in the Year of

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Speaker 1: Our Lord twenty nineteen, only one of those things is

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Speaker 1: currently true. Jacob Bowl is no longer allowed on any

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Speaker 1: social media And we'll get to y in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But first let's talk about his trip to Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: So on February nineteen, conservative grifter slash filmmaker Ali Alexander

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Speaker 1: created the Investigate ilhan Omar fund on his right wing

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Speaker 1: news and politics website Culture and You're done. Well, does

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Speaker 1: it change your mind to know that his right wing

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Speaker 1: news and politics website Culture has spells culture with three

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Speaker 1: t s. The fuck why? I I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I assume there's an explanation the spelling it with three k's, Like,

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Speaker 1: what's the well, I mean, I have a point, You

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Speaker 1: have a point, Alie Alexander is is not a white guy,

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Speaker 1: so he can't be racist. So, I mean, that's just

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Speaker 1: that argument there has just wiped out immediately. He probably

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Speaker 1: we should have no issues with the documentary he makes

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Speaker 1: about ilhan Omar. That's true, you know, you know, he

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Speaker 1: probably doesn't see color. He probably uh has a lot

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Speaker 1: about because his experience is just so much more valid

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Speaker 1: his investigation of elhan Omar had had no racial tinge

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Speaker 1: immigrate to the United States. Now, there was no evidence

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Speaker 1: this claim. However, Alie Alexander solicited twenty five tho dollars

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Speaker 1: these claims. That team wound up consisting of Jacob Wool

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Speaker 1: and Laura lumer Dream Team. Yeah, if you're unaware of

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Speaker 1: Miss Laura lumer Um. She is a twenty five year

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Speaker 1: old fake journalist most famous for badly handcuffing herself to

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Speaker 1: harassing representative Omar. She was so bad at handcuffing herself

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Speaker 1: when she when she handcuffed herself to the door, her

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Speaker 1: didn't know how to operate handcuffs or doors very well,

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Speaker 1: so she only handcuffed herself to one side of the door,

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Speaker 1: so Twitter employees were able to continue to enter and leave.

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Speaker 1: When the police showed up, they asked Twitter like, do

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Speaker 1: is not an SNL skit or this is our reality

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Speaker 1: that this is Yeah, this dumb bitch. Yeah. So this

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Speaker 1: is the team. This is the dream team that Ali

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Speaker 1: Alexander assembled to investigate Ilhanna Omar's background. Um As, Luma

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Speaker 1: and Wold took to the streets of Minneapolis, they began

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Speaker 1: to fill the Internet with hilarious periscope videos of their adventures.

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Speaker 1: Here's one video clip of Jacob telling the world about

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Speaker 1: the Sharia police, who he believes absolutely exist in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Again,

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Speaker 1: I can't emphasize enough. He's claiming, this is happening in

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Speaker 1: don't know how this works. But the Islamicist forces here

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Speaker 1: Somali communities, and they're enforcing Sharia lat And let me add,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see all this in the video we're producing.

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Speaker 1: We've got two camera guys there over here and over here,

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Speaker 1: uh and and and much more production crew, you name it. Now,

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Speaker 1: here's another clip of Jacob Wohl and Lord Lumer talking

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Speaker 1: of the dangerous Islamists that they say are absolutely following

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Speaker 1: them around the streets of Minneapolis. Yes, yes, you have to.

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Speaker 1: We've got a top notch security team here to get

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Speaker 1: the funk are you? Yeah? I wanted those back to

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Speaker 1: we all had fun, those of us who followed Jacob

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Speaker 1: Bowl on the Internet watching the ridiculous videos they put out.

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Speaker 1: There was no evidence, ever, provided that his security team existed.

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Speaker 1: There was no evidence provided of Sharia police enforcing Sharia

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Speaker 1: law and fucking Minneapolis. Jacob Bowl did show up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jacob Bowl did show up at one point in a

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Speaker 1: video wearing a fancy bulletproof vest, which was embarrassing to

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Speaker 1: same brand of bulletroof vest. Um. Yeah, we claimed we received.

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Speaker 1: If I were you, I would never share that fact

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Speaker 1: it's it's a nice vest. Uh, it's frustrating. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: all that vest ever wanted to do with stop bullets now? Uh.

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Speaker 1: Woll claim to have received numerous death threats while investigating

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Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar, and when the twenty three minute documentary importing

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Speaker 1: so called threats, which read, I hope you fucking know

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Speaker 1: of my city, you piece of ship. Now. Now, sure

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Speaker 1: he wrote that death threat. Uh, but we'll get to

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Speaker 1: pulled from the Internet due to several crimes that Jacob

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Speaker 1: Will committed on video. I did find one breakdown of

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Speaker 1: the film's claims against representative Omar by journalist Tony Webster.

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Speaker 1: interviewees and right wing video that aimed to end her career.

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Speaker 1: She's held events, she's had a lot of coverage. She's okay,

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Speaker 1: ilhan Omar's career. But he and Laura Lumer's claims that

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Speaker 1: to rent armored cars were successful in drumming up thousands

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis is an eye his stronghold. And then, on February

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Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, USA Today published an interview with Jacob

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Speaker 1: Wool titled this twenty one year old tweeted lies about

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Speaker 1: Robert Mueller and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Now he's eyeing the election.

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Speaker 1: The article opened by focusing on Wohl's latest lie. Yeah

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Speaker 1: now he is, Yeah, he's at what age would you guess?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's because being a gross criminal grifter ages

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Speaker 1: you like, look at Paul Redd. Paul Red's like fifty five,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Paul Redd has ever been mean to anyone.

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Speaker 1: He's just pure. Yeah, Jacob wol is just a piece

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Speaker 1: of ship. And so he looks like he's in his thirties.

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Speaker 1: I really thought he was in his thirties. This baby

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Speaker 1: is a crime. You can't file fake death threats against

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Speaker 1: yourself and report them to the police. Or you can,

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Speaker 1: but it's illegal. So Jacob Will by admitting in an

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Speaker 1: interview that he made fake threats and then creating incredibly

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Speaker 1: obvious fake Twitter accounts, and then using those incredibly obvious

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00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: fake Twitter accounts that he bragged about to threaten to

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Speaker 1: murder himself and then going to the police with it,

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Speaker 1: had committed an incredibly obvious and very well documented crime,

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Speaker 1: which is just a hoot. Is he going to get

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Speaker 1: any repercussions for this crime? That's a great question. Is

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Speaker 1: he still making fucking YouTube vlogs? What's the That's what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about right now. Actually, um, so it

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Speaker 1: does seem like he might actually eventually face some some

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Speaker 1: real repercussions. Young Turks journalist Ken Klippenstein filed a Foyer

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Speaker 1: request for documents pertaining to Surefire Intelligence, which is the

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Speaker 1: fake intelligence firm that Wol created to slander Robert Mueller.

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Speaker 1: The FBI refused Ken's records request, and he gave the

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Speaker 1: excuse that they couldn't give him the records because those

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Speaker 1: records pertained to an ongoing criminal probe, which means there's

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Speaker 1: an FBI criminal probe going on into Jacob wol fake

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Speaker 1: intelligence company and his attempt to slander Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Um. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Jared Holt, another journalist who covers the far right quote,

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00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: tweeted Clippinstein's threat about his foy A denial letter and noted,

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00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: funny I got a similar response from the State of Minnesota,

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00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: which means there's an ongoing investigation to Jacob Bowl's activities.

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Speaker 1: In the state of Minnesota for the fake death threats.

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Speaker 1: So it does seem like the wheels of justice might

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00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: slowly be turning towards Jacob Wol getting in trouble for

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00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: committing constant incompetent crimes. Ever so slowly not fast enough. Now.

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Speaker 1: February was a crowded month for Jacob Wol. It ended

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Speaker 1: with yet another press conference from him and Jack Berkman,

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Speaker 1: this one at Sea Pack, the annual gathering of conservatives

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Speaker 1: and people who want to ogle conservatives in a safe,

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00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: well lit building. By this point, wolves griffs had become

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00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: obvious enough that Seapack barred him from doing any event

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00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: at the conference itself, so instead he and Berkman held

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Speaker 1: their press conference in the busy lobby. Uh. Nothing really

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Speaker 1: happened at the conference. Laura Luomer screamed that she and

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00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: Wol deserve to get their Twitter accounts back. Jacob Wohl

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00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: tried to claim that the Muller investigation was done with

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00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: and everyone should instead focus on their investigation of ilhan Omar.

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00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: The journalist and attendants, however, just wanted to know if

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Speaker 1: he was being investigated by the FBI for my money.

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Speaker 1: The highlight of the event was a man in an

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Speaker 1: ill fitting suit Wall had paid to pretend to be

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Speaker 1: a bodyguard, wearing a single Apple AirPod in his ear

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Speaker 1: to pretend that he had like one of those one

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Speaker 1: of those secret service things going on. Wow loves hiring

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Speaker 1: fake bodyguardsthetic. M hm. Also, it's obviously an AirPod, Like

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Speaker 1: it's not like we all know what they look like. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's Jacob Ble is a perfect example of a very

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Speaker 1: dumb young man who thinks that because he's incapable of,

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Speaker 1: you know, thinking at a higher level than his own

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Speaker 1: brain works at, assumes everyone is as dumb as he

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Speaker 1: is um, which is very dumb. So Jacob Wohl would

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Speaker 1: be fooled by some and wearing an Apple AirPod in

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Speaker 1: one ear, pretending to be a secret service type agent,

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00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: but sadly no one else's well now. For about a

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00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: month or so after this press conference, it seemed like

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00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: Jacob Bowl might be fading into obscurity. But then in

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Speaker 1: late April, The Daily Beast published an article revealing his

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00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: latest scam, an attempt to slander Democratic candidate and mayor

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00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: Pete butter Jig with sexually assaulting a young man who

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Speaker 1: was too drunk to consent, So another false Raith allegation,

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Speaker 1: which is what cool people do. I think I think

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00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: he is unable to be forgotten about ultimately, Yeah, because

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00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: like he didn't want to go into obscurity. That's not

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00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: his deal. He's like even though that video was like

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be on Twitter anyway because I

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Speaker 1: want to I want to be anti fragile also like

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00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: a dumb word. But uh, he misses Twitter so much.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine like Donald Trump being banned from Twitter. No,

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00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: these people thrive on their dumb opinions, just like thwart

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00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: into the air. And he if he doesn't have Twitter,

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00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: he has to be in the media somehow. And that's

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00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: that's just whole his all fucking stick. That's that's his lifeblood,

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00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: you know. That is like it's all about attention for him.

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00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: It's the only thing that he cares about. And to

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Speaker 1: the to the point that like that's part of why

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00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: none of his grifts really work in the long run,

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Speaker 1: because he's a he's incapable of thinking things out. Like

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Speaker 1: Roger Stone would probably be down to file fake sexual

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Speaker 1: assault allegations against someone, but he wouldn't do it. Twice

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Speaker 1: in a year after the first one explodes, he would

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Speaker 1: be more canny about it. He'd spend more time setting

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Speaker 1: it up. Uh, he'd make it harder to catch, and

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00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: he wouldn't immediately commit the same grift like five months

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00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: later after the first month failed, because he's just a

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00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: little bit smarter than that. Like he's not smart, but

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Speaker 1: he's a little But also like, uh, maybe he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: even have been the face of it, you know what

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00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Like he doesn't need Like the fact that

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00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: Jacob wool needs to be the face and the person

515
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: that's coming out with this news is just indicative of

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00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: a personality that needs attention more than anything else. He's

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00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: not looking for the truth or anything else. He wants

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00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: to be this face of of revelation in bullshit. You know. Yeah,

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00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: he wants to be facing down a bunch of press

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00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: guys dressed in a suit. Uh. He wants to feel

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00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: like an FBI agent, but without like the air power

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00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: or investigating anything. Yeah, Like he there's there's all these

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00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: pieces of other careers like politics and journalism and law

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00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: enforcement that he wants to end, like it the finance

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00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: industry that he wants to have, But the only pieces

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00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: he wants of them are like the public facing pieces

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00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: that he's seen in movies. He doesn't in none of

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00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: the jobs that he wants to do. Does he actually

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Speaker 1: want to do the work? Keep in mind he I mean,

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Speaker 1: has he gone to any type of schooling or anything

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Speaker 1: to accomplish any type of actual I don't know. Like

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00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: he's just a rich kid, like flaunting around his much money.

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00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: He's just a rich kid who's dad is like a

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00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: lawyer who advised Donald Trump on stuff, who wants to

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00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: do shady, gross politics stuff and doesn't actually want to

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00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: work hard. Yeah, that's Jacob Wol. Yeah. What a man,

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00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: What a man, What a man, What a mighty good man. Now,

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00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: the fake allegations against Pete Butter jig blew up in

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Speaker 1: Wolve's face because the young man they picked to make

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00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: the allegations, a Republican himself, went to The Daily Beast

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Speaker 1: with recorded audio of Wolan Berkman trying to convince him

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00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: to lie about a sexual assault. Oh my god. Yeah,

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00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: the guy recognized wol immediately and was like, well, I

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00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: gotta take this meeting, but I'm just gonna record everything

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00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: they say and go to this guy like this. Yeah,

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00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm alright, with this guy quote. The source who

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00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: spoke to The Daily Beast said Berkman and wol made

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00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: clear that their goal was to kneecap butter Jig's momentum

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00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: in the presidential race. The man asked to remain anonymous

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00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 1: out of a concerned that the resulting publicity might imperil

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00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: his employment, and because, he said Wollen Berkman have a

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00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: reputation for vindictiveness. So several days before the Beast article

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00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: could run, a young man named Hunter Kelly published a

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00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: post on Medium alleging that Pete Butterjig had assaulted him

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00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: in February of this year. The post was tweeted by

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00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: a Trump advisor and by Jacob's dad, David Wool, and

557
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: wound up on Big League Politics, the right wing political

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00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: conspiracy website. Journalists and and instantly recognized some things that

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00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: looked pretty spishy about these allegations, like the fact that

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00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: Kelly's Medium and Twitter accounts were both less than a

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00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: month old, and that the main person he'd interacted with

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00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: on social media was Jacob Wool. Can you be more obvious?

563
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: Are you? S's so bad at this. He's so bad

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00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 1: at this, Like it almost upsets me. It almost upsets

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00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: me that someone with that much money and and connections

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00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: can't get like one thing right, like not not not

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00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: a single aspect of any of this right. Like there's

568
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: terrible guys like Paul Manaford who you look at in

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00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: your like their monsters, but at least like most of

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00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: the things they've done worked like this, they're not an

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00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: idiot like he's a more. Yeah, he doesn't deserve any

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00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: part of his wealth or any part of his entitlement

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00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: or privilege like he is. He's just Yeah. You can

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00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: say about Roger Stone and Paul Manafort. They don't deserve

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00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: their wealth or or their success that they've had, but

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00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: they at least deserve to be famous because the things

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00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: that they've done have had an impact on history. Jacob

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00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: wool is like that person without ever having an impact.

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00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: He's done nothing but like give journalists something to giggle over.

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00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: He's just flailing. He's flailing for attention. Yeah, it's it's

581
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: pretty sad. Now, Um, that doesn't mean I'm gonna stop

582
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: laughing about him, because I need something to laugh about.

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00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: And uh and these this really wipes the payday loan

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00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: staying out of my mouth. Oh we're gonna We're gonna

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00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: keep going on here. The Daily Beast managed to track

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00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: down the real Hunter Kelly, who said that the accounts

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00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: created in his name were not under his control. He

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00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: eventually posted a message to his Facebook timeline titled I

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00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: was not sexually assaulted quote to keep it brief for now.

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Speaker 1: I was approached by a political figure to come to

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Speaker 1: d C to discuss political situations from the standpoint of

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Speaker 1: a gay Republican. When I arrived, they discussed Peter butter

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Speaker 1: Jig and started talking about how they would be working

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00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: a campaign against him. I went to bed and woke

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00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: up to a fake Twitter at real Hunter Kelly and

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00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: an article that I in no way endorsed. He wrote,

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00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: I have since left and him working on a formal

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00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: statement to give to everyone, including the butter Jig family.

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00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Kelly claims that Wohl and Berkman basically flew him the

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Speaker 1: d C and then printed up a fake statement they

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00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: wanted him to sign that then posted the statement without

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00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: his permission, according to the Daily Beast quote. He went

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00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: on to say that they also tried to get him

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Speaker 1: to sign off on a script for a press conference

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00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: over his protests, but he called his family to come

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00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: get him and then fled. This is the second person

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00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: that's felt like they had to flee the presence of

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00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: Jacob Bowl and Jack Berkman. Now what's interesting to me

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00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: is that both of the men Woln Berkman tried to

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00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: con into reporting butt a jig were Republicans, Trump supporters,

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Speaker 1: Even it seems that Wole and his partner just sort

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00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: of expected that their fellow conservatives would be down for

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00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: any kind of grift that hurt Democrats, even if it

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00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: meant implicating themselves in an obvious crimes concocted by idiots

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00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: with the history of having their crimes instantly exposed. The

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00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: audio recorded by the Daily Beast source gives some insight

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00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: into precisely how Wol tried to sell these young men

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00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: on engaging in a criminal conspiracy to falsify rape allegations. Quote.

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Speaker 1: When the source expressed reluctance, they assured him the scheme

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00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: would make him wealthy, famous, and a star in Republican politics.

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Speaker 1: Wol cited the national recognition given to Christine Blassie Ford

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Speaker 1: after she accused Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh of sexual

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Speaker 1: assault during his confirmation hearings last year. The source did

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00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: not agree to participate in the scheme, but Roll followed

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00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: up with a phone call a day or two later

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00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: to see if he could recommend friends or associates who

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00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: might be a good fit to play the victim and

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00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: the hoax. I do I do want to I do

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Speaker 1: want to bring up the fact that in our previous

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Speaker 1: episod but Payday Loans, when they were trying to con

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Speaker 1: the Economist to write that article about them, in their

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00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: response email, they promised fame and everyone's going to be

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00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: knocking on your door or like whatever, like that's all

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00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: that's their ploys, Like you're gonna get so famous from this. Also,

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Speaker 1: Christine Waldi Ford was fucking like crucified by the media

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Speaker 1: that I can't imagine. I can't imagine a worse kind

637
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: of fame to get the thing that she had. It's

638
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: saying like it seems like it was an unspeakable night,

639
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: mayor for her and her family, which shows the kind

640
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: of person Wool is because I really don't think I

641
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: think he was telling the truth and that he believed

642
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: that she got famous and it was a good thing,

643
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: because I think he's incapable of seeing any kind of attention.

644
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: It's bad, and she did get a lot of attention,

645
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: and so that's a bad press is still pressed in

646
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: his Yeah. Yeah, So he sees this woman being like

647
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: attacked by the entire right wing media ecosystem and like

648
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: like but the president of the United everyone knew her name. Yeah,

649
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: and so he's jealous of yeah, Which there's a core

650
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: of something deeply sad and pressing there. Very pathetic. It's

651
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: very pathetic given given the world we live in. I'm

652
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: not for a goddamn second going to feel bad about

653
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: Jacob Woarl just going to laugh about him too. Again,

654
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: clear the worst bastards out of my head. While we uh, yeah,

655
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: we talked about this. So the Daily Beast looked into

656
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: the phone number that Wol called from. It traced back

657
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: to a company, Potomac Intelligence Group, which claimed to be

658
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: a political and corporate intel firm just like Surefire Intelligence.

659
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: Minutes after The Daily Beast reached out to Wool about

660
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: Potomac Intelligence, the website was taken down. So, if you

661
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: know anything about Jacob wol you know a little thing

662
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: like repeatedly being revealed as a fraud wasn't going to

663
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: stop one of his grifts. Wool and Jack Berkman next

664
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: announced a press conference. It would be hosted in the

665
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: driveway of Berkman's house in northern Virginia. Two days before

666
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: the event, Yeah, they've gone from like a holiday in

667
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: for the molar one to like the lobby of c

668
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: pack a driveway a driveway. Uh, the fucking stupid Fox, stupid,

669
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: stupid Fox um. Two days before the event, Berkman tweeted

670
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: a link to an event bright page called protest against

671
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: the Homophobic Bigots. This was apparently an event organizing page

672
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: for a protest against the press conference being hosted by

673
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: Jacob Wool and Jack Berkman. Berkman claimed that the page

674
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: was evidence of a real plan for hundreds of leftist

675
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: protesters to disrupt their super important press conference. We will

676
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: not surrender to the mob. We've called an extra security

677
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: to guard our safety and that of our partners in

678
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: the media. Now will Summer, the journalist who's probably done

679
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: the most to cover wolves. Various gripts noted that quote.

680
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: Before Berkman's tweet, no other Twitter account had promoted the

681
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: event page. Another reporter, Jason Duckman, found at the event

682
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: bright page had been started by someone using the email

683
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: address Woll think tank at gmail dot com. It gets

684
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: and just try to cover your tracks. Just try to

685
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: make a fake email account. You know how many fake

686
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: emails like accounts I've made, like a ten percent off discount,

687
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: like some fucking new site or something like. It's very

688
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: easy to make an email account, very easy. It's incredib

689
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: It takes seconds, Jacob, like, it takes seconds. Come on, man, God,

690
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: just upsetting. Yeah, it's it's frustrating. When what was confronted

691
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: about this, he claimed, I've never used event bright in

692
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: my life. It was created by a troll. We're gonna

693
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: get to the rest of the story, but first, you

694
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: know what's not an incredibly lazy and instantly spotted grift, Sharine,

695
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: the products that sponsored the ship. Sponsors sponsors, not grifts

696
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: at all. In fact, the products that actually deliver a service. Yeah,

697
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: we need him as a fellow podcaster. I get it.

698
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: Just support your support your hosts. I love a product,

699
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: I love a service. Uh, here they are and we're back.

700
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: So on the literal day I wrote this script, Jacob

701
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: Wohl and Jack Berkman held their very important press conference

702
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: in Berkman's very impressive driveway. The proceedings were interrupted several

703
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: times by a garbage truck emptying Brookman's trash, and by

704
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: several low flying airplaness why most professionals do not host

705
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: press conferences and driveways. Wolan Berkman refuted the claims that

706
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: they had basically kidnapped Hunter by pointing out that they

707
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: bought him a Starbucks frappuccino and an expensive haircut. What

708
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: did yeah. They then segued seamlessly to stating that they

709
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: were investigating Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren and Biden's case,

710
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: they think he might have parking since they invited all

711
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: candidates to submit themselves to investigations in order to gain

712
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: the sure to be coveted wol Berkman's Seal of approval.

713
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: That's that's literally what they referred to it as is

714
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: the wool Burkman Seal of Approval, which I can't imagine

715
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: anything more prestigious, Like I can't that sounds that sounds

716
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: really legit. It does. Like all their press conferences, this

717
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: one fizzled out with nothing of value having been presented.

718
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: The closest thing to a scoop was the ominous claim

719
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: that Berkman's home would be the center of the election.

720
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: His home, Yeah, he claimed his home was going to

721
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: be the center of the election. Should have ever heard

722
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: of of of the election? Your house? Yeah? My driveway,

723
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: my lawn. God fuck off. If like me, you're one

724
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: you're wanting to know exactly what Jacob Wowle and his

725
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: bumbling sidekick Haff planned for two thousand twenty, I have

726
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: some good news for you. A few days before Wol's

727
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: latest grift collapsed in on itself, a document was leaked

728
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: to The Daily Beat, a brochure for something called the

729
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: Arlington's Center for Political Intelligence BUILD is a conservative political

730
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: intelligence and advocacy organization. The a c p I claimed

731
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: to be able to impact political outcomes for the benefit

732
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: of conservative candidates. As you've surely guessed by now, the

733
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: Arlington's Center for Political Intelligence is really just Jacob Woll.

734
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 1: In this document, which was essentially an attempt at raising

735
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: funds for his new company, Will claimed that a c

736
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: p I would, among other things, operate a troll farm

737
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: all the Internet research agency infiltrate their operatives into democratic

738
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: campaigns and execute high impact publicity stunts to insert stories

739
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: into the mainstream media that all sounds like things wall

740
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: Is capable of doing, and he just doesn't know how

741
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: to want to stop or how to stop. He's addicted. No, no,

742
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: he's addicted to grifting and also terrible at it. Now.

743
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: Will claimed that the a cp I needed one million

744
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: dollars in funding from investors in order to care wry

745
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: out its important mission. The document went out to lay

746
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: out a number of plans, obviously cribbed from Russian actions

747
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: laid out in the Molar report. Wol wants to use

748
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: bot networks to build large accounts that poses leftists and

749
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: then tell people at the last minute not to vote

750
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: in That's actually a plan he laid out was to

751
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: like pay bots to build fake leftist Twitter in Instagram

752
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: accounts and then tell everybody unlike November Onet, not to vote.

753
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: Brilliant scheme, yeah, yeah uh. He notes that the strategy

754
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: was utilized by the Internet Research Agency with moderate effectiveness

755
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: in two thousand sixteen, but with a superior handle on

756
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: American cultural nuances, a c p I will be able

757
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: to have a devastating impact on democratic candidates. So basically, like,

758
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: because we know that social media, we're going to use

759
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: it means yeah, and it's it's what's really funny to

760
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: me is that he repeatedly references the Internet Research Agency,

761
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: but then like kind of slams them for not understanding

762
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: American culture and stuff and be like, we'll be better

763
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: than them because we know America better. When it's like, dude,

764
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: the Internet Research Agency succeeded in all of its goals,

765
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: and you have fucked up every single grift you've ever

766
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: tried to carry out. Don't don't pretend you're better than

767
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: the Russians at this stuff like they got away with it,

768
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: just the sheer level of ego on display. I want

769
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: to know what a daily, what a day is like

770
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: in Jacob Woul's life, Like I want to know, like

771
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: if he puts on a shirt being like today's a day,

772
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: Today's day. Everyone respects me, you know, the days of

773
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: the day people see me as a serious political operation.

774
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: That day will never come, jail. I'm so sorry. I'm

775
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: not sorry because you your garbage now. In the document,

776
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: Will claims to have invented a totally new method of

777
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: spreading fake news, which he calls feeding it up the chain.

778
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: He lays it out in like a really long and

779
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: complex flow chart, but the whole thing boils down to

780
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: lying to people about having damning stories and then hoping

781
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: that you get mainstream media coverage from stoking rumors. Yeah exactly,

782
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Uh. It's kind of sad, but revealing in

783
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: the document that wol wol is incapable of seeing anything

784
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: but virality is a measure of success. I'm gonna quote

785
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: from a chunk of the document. With the advent of

786
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: and popularization of live streaming via Periscope, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube,

787
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: it has become possible to synthesize manipulated events that garner

788
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: enormous amounts of attention. A textbook example of this tradecraft

789
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: took place on November twenty nine, two eighteen, when right

790
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: wing activist Laura Lomer handcuffed yourself to Twitter HQ in

791
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: New York City after being banned from the site. The

792
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: stunt became the number one trending topic on Twitter and

793
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: resulted in hundreds of articles being published and countless minutes

794
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: of cable news coverage being broadcast around the world. In

795
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: a calculated move, Loomer selected New York City is the

796
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: place to execute the stunt, where journalists are plentiful and

797
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: able to quickly arrive at the scene to broadcast the

798
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: event on Periscope and Facebook. Within fifteen minutes of handcuffing

799
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: herself to the doors of the Twitter HQ, Lmur was

800
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: surrounded by dozens of mainstream and alternative media journalists who

801
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: are broadcasting the event, namely on periscope two hundreds of

802
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: thousands of people. Within the first hour of the stunt,

803
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: Laura Lumer was the number rue twinding topic on Twitter worldwide.

804
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: So he sees lumurs actions at Twitter HQ is a

805
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: huge success because it was popular, like the whole thing

806
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: that he like, it turns him on to be like,

807
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: whoa she went to a place that had so much

808
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: media coverage or whatever. Also, I can't get over the

809
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: fact that she described it as an activist like that

810
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: that's activism now, Like oh god, But like the attention

811
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: wasn't people getting angry that she had been banned and

812
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: demanding that Twitter reinstate her because that didn't happen. It

813
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: was just everyone laughing at her for and then moving

814
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: on with their lives because it was funny. Like that's

815
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: the thing, was like Jacob and that, like everything that

816
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: he says in this document is something that like actual

817
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: bad actors have done successfully to influence politics in America

818
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: and elsewhere. The ideas aren't unworkable, they're just dumb because

819
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: Jacob is dumb and can't pull any of them off

820
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: and doesn't understand the difference between Laura Luomer handcuffing herself

821
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: to Twitter HQ and being laughed at and the Russians

822
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: mounting a campaign to artificially inflate the popularity of third

823
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: party Democratic candidates like what's your fucking name? The Jill

824
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: ste Yeah, in order to like draw votes away from

825
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: the Democrats. Like one of those things is debatably effective.

826
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: The other one is just a joke. But he doesn't see.

827
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: All he sees is that they both got attention. Jill

828
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: Stein got attention, Laura Luomer got attention. So that's the

829
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: same thing. His mind is one dimensional. His mind is

830
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: truly cannot compute complex thought. Yeah, so is gonna be fun? Um?

831
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean no, it's not. He's going to be the

832
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: worst year of all of our lives. Is that we're saying.

833
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm just excited for what they're going to grift next. Right, Uh,

834
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: Laura Luma is gonna to strap herself to something. I'm

835
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: going to guess that Jacob Wohl where it will accuse

836
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: every single Democratic candidate of sexual assault by the time

837
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: the year is over, um, which should be a lot

838
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: of fun. I can't wait to see who ships on

839
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: whose trust? You know. Oh, I'm looking forward to who

840
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: ships on whose chest. I hope we get to see

841
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: Jacob Wol arrested um by the FBI for crimes. But

842
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm not holding my breath. Um. I think what he's

843
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: done is is so laughable. It's definitely crimes. But I

844
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: feel like the American justice system does not take him

845
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: seriously because it's so laughable and because I mean, we're

846
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: laughing at him too. But the reality is there's still

847
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: crimes and he has not been faced with any type

848
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: of justice or or any type of of of Like

849
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: the reason why he keeps doing it is because no

850
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: one is stopping him. Yeah, He's faced no consequences other

851
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: than like, like, I mean, his life other than being

852
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: a grifter is over. Like he at this point like

853
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: there's nothing else he can ever do with himself. Jacob

854
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,479
Speaker 1: Wohl can't go back to college and get another job

855
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: doing something legitimate, because we have hours of him being

856
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: Jacob Wol. It's the same thing with Laura Lumer, where

857
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: like Laura Lumer is famous right now for screaming on

858
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: info Wars that her life is ruined because she's been

859
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: kicked off of all social media and stuff for all

860
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: these insane and racist stunts she gets up to, and

861
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, your life is ruined because you ruined

862
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: it by yeah, by doing fucked up things to people

863
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: Like It's it's like a rapist being like, well, my

864
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: life is ruined now because I'm a convicted rapist, and

865
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, your life is ruined, but like because

866
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: you're because you're raped, people like don't you shouldn't have

867
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: done that, Like people, and you got caught, which is

868
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: what they're they're probably because they got caught. You accused

869
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: a random woman of being a terrorist repeatedly, and we're

870
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: partly responsible for huge numbers of death threats being filed

871
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: against her. Uh, that's libel. You can't you're not allowed

872
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: to do that. You in trouble, Like this is actually

873
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: an instance. Yeah, that's what's aggravated is that they don't

874
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: they don't learn their lesson, and you you have to

875
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: be pretty bad, is a right wing grifter these days

876
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: to get banned from Twitter, Like that should tell you

877
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: how bad Laura Loomer and Jacob Wool are. Like they

878
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: they got banned from like Paul Watson still on fucking Twitter.

879
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: The fact that they have not like that that they

880
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: managed to get like forced Twitter to take action means

881
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: that they were pretty egregiously violating the services rules. And

882
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: in Wohl's case, he was literally bragging about breaking Twitter's

883
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: rules to a journalist for a major outlet and it's like, yeah, dude,

884
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: of course you get banned like that's not I mean,

885
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: or be permanent forever because it's part of me. Is

886
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: kind of upset because our last episode that we did,

887
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: we got like pretty good attention from I feel like

888
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: Jacob Wol retweeted us and like common they are the ones.

889
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: Nothing they've done recently has been interesting, So I'm not

890
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: going to talk about them more. But we did we

891
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: did get to slam the crass and Stein's directly, which

892
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: was satisfying. It was satisfying because they because they were

893
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: just all over it. Yeah, but I mean, Jacob Wool

894
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: and Laura Loomer, it's truly just an example of white

895
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: privilege as as its worst. Because nothing happens. Like if

896
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: they were any other ethnicity or or nationality or anything,

897
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: they would have way more attention legally, and that's the truth,

898
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: Like I oh, absolutely, without a doubt. And because they're

899
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: just rich white folk, they get untouched. And that's what's infuriating,

900
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: is because white for the black of a better word,

901
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: like white collar crime or whatever you want to call it.

902
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, just let's just say white skinned crime. Yeah,

903
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know if this counts as white collar,

904
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm not sure what kind of collar Repeatedly faking

905
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: rape allegations is, Like I don't I really don't know.

906
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: Like they've invented a new kind of white crime. And

907
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: it's yeah, I will say. Speaking of the Krassenstein's and

908
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: Jacob Wool, one of my favorite moments on Twitter last

909
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: year was um Kim Clippenstein, the FOYA journalist with young

910
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: Turks who like revealed that the FBI had an open

911
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: investigation into Wool, got into a fight with him on Twitter,

912
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: and uh, Jacob Wol mistook him from one of the

913
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: Krassenstein brothers because their last names are vaguely similar. Oh

914
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: my god, and so Wol was like why don't you

915
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: just like get up to another grift with your brother?

916
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: And Clippenstein responded, you know, the only difference between you

917
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: and the Krassenstein's is their their grifts don't immediately explode

918
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: in their faces. And then Brian Krassenstein responded by just

919
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: saying boom, Yeah it was really good. Wow, it was

920
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: one of those moments that makes Twitter worth it. So

921
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: he like low key admitted to grift ing better. I

922
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: think he was just too dumb to really know what

923
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: was going on in the conversation and just saw that

924
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: somebody had attacked someone attacking him. Like, I really don't

925
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: think he understood what was being said. But Ken Clippenstein

926
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: is a great follow on Twitter, so check him out.

927
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah not he not any relations is not a

928
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: completely different last name. Yeah wow. Anyway, that's the episode, Serene, Well,

929
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: thank you better after the payday loan stuff. No, I'm

930
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: still mad, but I'm always mad. My default is just anger. Um,

931
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on to revisit our our sheep

932
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: in Wols clothing. He's just a dumb little sheep. He's

933
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: just he's just a dumb little sheepy sheep, sheepy sheep.

934
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: It's almost insulting to sheep honestly, But yeah, I wouldn't

935
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: want to. I wouldn't want to tar sheep with that brush.

936
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: Sheep provides so many useful things. Wool and they're kind

937
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: of cute. Sheep's milk, yeah, sheep's oil. Yeah, and they're concrete.

938
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,479
Speaker 1: I think, genuinely, I think they are more intelligent than wol.

939
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: I have never seen a sheep fuck itself over in

940
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: the same fashion that Jacob Bowl has. Usually they just

941
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: eat plants and mind their own fucking business, huddle together

942
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: for warmth in the winter, which is a more successful

943
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: strategy than Jacob Bowl has ever executed. Wow, what a

944
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: ship show? Well, what a show? Get some plugables to Yeah,

945
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: follow the podcast that I co host, Ethnically Ambiguous and

946
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: listen to us. We talked about elhan Omar a lot,

947
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: especially with the recent stuff that's been going on um

948
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: and why everything against her is pretty much a facade

949
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: but um. You can follow us Ethnically Ambiguous UM or

950
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: Ethnically am Big m B I G on Instagram ethnically

951
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: and am A m B on Twitter. You can follow

952
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: me at shiro hero on Instagram and shiro Hero six

953
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Speaker 1: six six on Twitter. It's s h E R O

954
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: h E r o uh. Yeah, and thanks for having me, Robert.

955
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: This was splendid. Even though you're not in the same

956
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: room as me. I feel like we've bonded today. We

957
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: have bonded today, and there's only one thing that conceal

958
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: the kind of bond that is built over listening to

959
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: Jacob wool stories, and that is celebratory. Sophie have grabbed. Yeah,

960
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: Sophie have grabbed the role of bagels. See, when you've

961
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: been working together as long as Sophie and I have,

962
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: you just know what the other person wants. I'm gonna

963
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: yell in anger, and you throw the bagels. When I

964
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: give my angry bagel throwing, I'm going to try to

965
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: get the sound on on my mic. Okay, go, okay,

966
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a pretty perfect sound. Yeah perfect. Oh my god,

967
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm so satisfied with how that went. Yeah, I'm very

968
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I mean not really, but you know, I'm

969
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: the bagel have made me happy. Yeah, that's that's the

970
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: beauty of throwing bagels. They really they really cleanse the

971
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: soul's palate. They cleanse the soul's palate. Good baked, good

972
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 1: we'll do that. You know, that's why they called baked

973
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: goods because they're good. That is why they're called baked goods.

974
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 1: They're not baked. No, No, baked bads are well actually

975
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: baked bads. Or when I try to make baked goods

976
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: because they usually get high and forget that, the evans on.

977
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: But it is bad. That is bad. That is bad.

978
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: Not a great strategy. Speaking of great strategies, I'm not

979
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: making an a plug. I don't know why I use

980
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: my add plug. Boys. You can find me on Twitter

981
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: at I right, okay. You can find this podcast on

982
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at at bastards pod. Uh. You can

983
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: find us on the internet and find the sources for

984
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: this episode at behind the Bastards dot com. You can

985
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: buy a t shirt at the Public I have a

986
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Speaker 1: awaits us all called it could happen here check it out. Uh.

988
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the episode. Until next time. I Love

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Speaker 1: about You.