WEBVTT - Hangin' With The 'Boys: Drew Pearson Stops By 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.400 Before listening, ask a doctor if your heart is healthy 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:10.080 enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the boys, 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:14.200 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:19.360 in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:27.120 Shannon Gross Monday at the Star. We have one hell 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:31.840 of a show today. We are joined right now by 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.680 Brian brought us. We're gonna talk a little combine and 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.760 then in a little bit where you're gonna have the 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.160 original eighty eight. Drew Pearson's gonna join the show. Kurt 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:46.920 is on site with him conducting an interview that or something. 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.680 We'll find out what that's about, and they will be 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:54.000 here probably fifteen or twenty minutes. What's going on with this, 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:58.680 Mike Douglas, That's a good question. I'm watching it. I'm 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:03.200 watching the board mover around mysteriously on the game. Are 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.160 you there here? Hello? Okay, I'll just keep going. We'll 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.080 see what happens here about me? You got me here? 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.560 Can I do here? What about Nate? Is Nate here? Okay? 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.360 Talking today? Are you there? N talking? What happened? I 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:21.479 was talking? I was talking? He wasn't talking? Oh man, 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:23.880 braun As. How was the trip you just got back? Right? 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:27.080 It was good? Yeah, we got back yesterday. The we'd 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.840 stay through. I was telling you guys, we'd stay through 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.520 if they let us. Uh, the NFL kicks us out 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.600 Saturday night. We did our draft shows all on all 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.479 last week and then uh yeah, we'd hang in there, 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.240 but they say, you know, you need to go somewhere else, 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.160 so they send us on home. But it's good to 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.560 be back. Um, when'd you guys go up? We went 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.040 last Tuesday, had a lot of content, got ahold of 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.640 Stephen Jones, kind of ran some things down about him 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:54.160 and some situations with him and does then we got 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.280 Jerry at the end of the week. Had some good 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.240 stories in between, some evaluations and stuff up. It was 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.200 pretty good week for Scottboys dot Com. And hope everybody 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:03.880 went back and kind of checked out the stuff that 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:05.360 we were doing. Yeah, you guys did a hell of 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.640 a job. Thank you, congratulations on that. Thank you appreciate that. Awesome. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:13.639 So I know, uh wow, I know Nate's gonna have 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.800 a ton of questions for you, and I hope they're good. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.280 Oh no, no, always good. I know, I know if 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.520 he asked me if this is the question I'll get. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.120 He wants to know who you who? You got us? 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.760 Take it at nineteen? No, No, I'm not, I'm not. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.360 I'm a word about it. What's the question I do 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:32.000 not want to hear today? Uh, I'll just put it 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.640 like this. If you ask them about a guy that's 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.000 that that place that's running, and he say, does does 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.800 he look good? Brod's gonna get mad at you because 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:44.160 they all look good in panties? I mean he's short. No, 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.680 that's the thing. An, No, that's who look good? They're 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.120 all good. If you if you come and you go, 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.640 who look good? That's a lazy question. Yeah, that's all. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.440 That's a lazy question. What about who surprised you? That's 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.760 even better. That's a better question because and and that's 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.600 and that's the angle you need to take about this 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.040 and again and I'm not trying to be a jerk. 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.880 I'm just saying, you get that question, you go it 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.560 could and you know what I could do. I could 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.200 ruin your show. I could start at player one, you 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.400 go all the way down to three twenty five if 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.800 that's in there. Yeah, oh yeah, I could go through him. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:15.280 I go through them all But what we got to 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.680 remember about the combine, the most important thing is the 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.480 medical stuff, you know, and this week we learned at 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.320 a potential first round pick, Maurice Hurst, the defensive tackle 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:27.560 from Michigan, has a heart condition and I was told 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.679 it's very similar to what Hank Gathers had, who was 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.040 at Loyo the Merrymouth that passed away. So he's going 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.080 to the Cleveland Clinic. That's one of the world renown 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:43.000 hospitals for heart patients and stuff. So we'll see. The 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.280 doctors are going to tell him he could either play 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.400 or he can't play. There's no in between. I know 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.520 this morning on the mail bag, people are asking us, well, 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.480 could you take him in the fifth round. No, he's 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.560 either got a heart that can play or a heart 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.760 that can't play. Wow. So that's where we are. But 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.200 that was a potential first round player that was you know, 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.680 was knocked out because of the medical Maybe there'll be 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.480 some other ones down the road. But you know, that's 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.080 that's big because a lot of people that had Maurice 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:12.080 Hurst defensive tackle mock to the Cowboys at eighteen. That's 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:13.640 when you guys kind of make fun of me who 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.920 they're gonna take at eighteen if I said Maurice Hurst, 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.599 maybe not Maurice Hurst. Now, so yeah, it's but it's 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.760 a it's unfortunate. It's good to see these guys run around. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.160 But the thing to me is the most important thing 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.120 is the film. Okay, we saw Barkley, the running back 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.120 from Penn State, have an incredible workout. You see that 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:35.919 type of workout on tape. Now there's some guys here that, 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:37.720 like I say, they will work out that didn't work 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.160 out as good, but their tape is much better. That's 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.479 that's where you have to That's where I think you 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.200 have to be careful about the combine. The kid Griffin 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.680 from from UCF from Central Florida, Chakeem Griffin, who is 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.559 a linebacker. He's got the handicap he has one hand. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.440 It was a birth defect, you know. And so now 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.159 you know he's gone from being like a guy that 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.320 we all talk about out as a third round player, 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.400 fourth round player, to people saying, hey, Brian, can you 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.560 take him at nineteen because of the workout. You love 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.480 the intangibles, you love the workout. The tape is good, 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.240 but you have to figure out what you would do 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.520 with a six foot two hundred and twenty seven pound 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.200 linebacker that might not be a starter. You can't take 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.440 a guy like that in the first round. You can't. Now, 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.400 you could take it out depending on what position he 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.960 plays as a will linebacker, that's his best position. You 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.200 have one of the better will linebackers in the league 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.600 playing for you right now. You can't say, well, hey, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.760 let's move him to Sam. Hey let's move him to mic. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.120 That's not this guy's thing. So you have to be careful, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.640 make sure the tape matches what you're seeing in the workout, 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.000 and then and then be able to kind of adjust 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.520 the guys from there. I'm on with you one hundred percent. Man. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.120 I used an analogy while talking to him this morning. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.320 Nate Newton will not work out well. Nate Newton on 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.159 the underwear Olympics will not work out well. But Nate 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:01.080 Newton on tape will impress you. That's what I think. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.560 That's where I think you have to You know, Orlando 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:07.919 Brown University of Oklahoma tackle terrible workout, But if you 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.560 watch the tape, it's a lot different to how he plays. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.080 He does play with power, he does play with some mobility. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.680 He's got a little lateral slide to him. But you 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.960 watch him go through the drills, he's got awful. Let 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:22.039 me ask you this, that's a great point. How how 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.520 much is this just for show and just getting to 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:27.080 see the guys in person and interview, and how much 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.000 because it is guy can play, he can play, He 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.960 could play, he could play. Yeah, And that's the thing 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.279 about it is you've got a lot of guys. I'll 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.080 give another example of guy. There's a guy named Dylan Cantrell. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:40.080 He's a wide receiver from from Texas Tech. I haven't 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:44.279 studied Daling Cantrell. Dylan Cantrell is sixty three, two hundred 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.840 and twenty six pounds. He runs right about a four 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.359 to five nine, which under wide receiver things would be 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.440 you know that that's slow, that's not good. But then 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.680 you look at the other measurable parts of him though. 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.000 His vertical jumps thirty eight and a half ten ten 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.120 on the broad jump six five six, and the three 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:05.039 cone drill is outstanding four h three in the short 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.479 shuttle is rare for a wide receiver that tall and 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.200 is sixty shuttle is ten eight five, which is another 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.400 rare thing. Okay, if you watched, if you if you 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.640 didn't know, if you just said Dylan Cantrell runs a 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.640 four or five nine, you would say, okay, we got 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:20.800 to move on. But then you got the other things. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.520 What this combine will do. It will make you go 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.160 back and watch guys. It'll make you go back and say, 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.040 why did I not have where? What did I not see? 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.680 I see the lateral I see the lateral quickness, I 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.760 see the ability to burst the explosive. Does the tape 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.160 show me that? That's where the combine could be very useful. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.960 I talked about the medical stuff being verily important because 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:48.240 now we learned that Maurice Hurst has a threatening heart condition. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.080 Well but now, but also though I've had the opportunity 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.680 to interview some guys too, I've sat down and talk 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.400 to I think the medical and the interviews, and then 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.200 what the little bit numbers some of these guys, as 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.080 we don't have accurate heights and weights on. Now we 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:05.680 have accurate heights and weights, and now we have a 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.600 little bit of a time with some speed. If you 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.160 really like a guy, I'm gonna go to Florida A 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.200 and M and work Nate Newton out. If his his 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.560 workout might be bad you know it might be bad, 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.520 but I'm watching Nate Newton the player, and I'm going nah, 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.880 nah nah no, this guy's he's no. The tape's better, 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.560 tapes better on this guy. So I'm gonna make my way. 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.440 I'm gonna went my way down there to Florida and 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.360 I'm gonna work him out and I'm gonna say, Okay, 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.720 my eyes are right. He's a good football player. I 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.040 don't need to let the I don't let the times 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.120 affect how I'm going to see him as a player 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:40.520 and see that. That that's why to us, to us 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.040 it's a dog and pony show, but to the train 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.280 and it's a professional, it's not. Yeah, And that's why 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:48.960 you know, you know, I'm not saying a lot because 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.240 you're asking on the right questions. You are, that's right questions. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.040 That's why I'm sitting over there like good one, good one, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.719 you know. Yeah, And and Broddess is gonna give it 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.800 to you straight up. And that that's why people say, well, 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.240 have you watch a lot of the combine? Yeah? And 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:06.120 I'm like no, no, because everybody looks good to me. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.920 And then you take you take the guy, the Griffin 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.120 kid that ran the four three eight, And you know 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.640 I'm following it. Oh man, da da da, And I'm 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.240 saying to myself, no, yeah, I already know because I 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.400 knew a little bit about him at UCF, you know. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:27.400 And uh, nobody runs harder, work harder, this, that another. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.040 But he don't And I hate to tell you, but 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.320 he don't play at four to three nine on what 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:36.439 I've seen, Yeah, he's I will say this. He has 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.920 explosive quickness. There's there's some stuff that you watch him 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:44.320 play on you know, on film, and there's a lot 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.160 of really positive traits. If you're gonna draft him, and 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.520 it's not just because of the handicap the one hand, 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.360 you have to have a plan for him, and I 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.480 think it's let him play off the ball and let 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.000 him run. That's the thing if you're asking him. And 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.760 it's not that he won't fight blocks, but at his size, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.840 it's tougher for him to get off blocks when people 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:08.079 get on him. That's upbreaks. If he was sixty two, 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:13.760 sixty three you you you you. I'm not saying you 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.480 would draft him, but you will move him up. Well, 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.000 let's let's get an example a guy that is that 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.320 big and a lot of cowboy fans have a lot 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.080 of people have been talking about this guy, Tremaine Edmonds 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.000 from Virginia Tech now Virginia Tech. I mean to me, 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.760 Tremaine Edmonds can play all three spots. Play the SAM, 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.240 you can play the mic, you could play the will. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.440 Considering something's happening to you're likely not gonna get back. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.720 Anthony Hitchens, see better figure out a way to find 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.840 a mic linebacker. I don't think you want to move 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.679 Stean Lee back to mike linebacker. I think you want 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.360 to keep him at the will and let him do that. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.560 But Tremaine Edmonds is six to four, he's two hundred 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.680 and fifty three pounds. His arm linked is thirty four 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.000 and a half. Okay, And now, okay, I see it. 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.000 I got a tall guy, big guy, long arm, So okay, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.880 I can see a guy that plays off blocks as well. 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:04.880 But you get to, like to say, four or five 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.640 four for a guy that big, that's pretty good right there. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.800 But then you start to get into some of the 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.840 other things about him, though, and you're like nine nine 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:15.760 on the broad jump. That for a guy that big, 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.800 that's not a very explosive guy. But see the numbers 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:24.040 don't say explosive on the jumps and stuff, but what 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.560 but you watch him on tape, he plays explosive. So 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.640 it's it's it's one of those things you're kind of like, again, 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.200 you use these numbers as a guy to kind of say, Okay, 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.560 do I need to go back and look at some 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:41.920 of these guys and do I And I'm not a yeah, 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.920 do I do I do? I'm not making up. I'm 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.439 not trying to say, oh, wait a minute, he ran 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.200 a four three eight at the combine. Well, you could 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.480 see the Griffin kid play that fact, I mean, you 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:53.720 could see him play with that kind of that kind 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.000 of a burst, that explosiveness. But then again, some of 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.720 these other guys you're like, I know the tape and 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.800 then but you got to make sure the competition too. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.080 You know, for example, the kid from the kid from 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:10.400 San Antonio from ut San Antonio that that that everybody's Davenport, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.280 that everybody's talking about. You know, here's a guy that 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.560 that to me is a really really really interesting player. Again, 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.680 he's six five almost six six, two hundred and sixty 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:25.320 four pounds, you know, four five eight in the forty. Yeah, 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:29.280 so then you're starting to see, Okay, the twenty shuttles 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:33.000 the things where you have to have lateral Julie, he 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:38.559 has the same twenty shuttle four four one as Bradley Chubb, 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:44.600 who is the big time North Carolina State. Everybody's talking about, Okay, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.080 who could be Who's gonna be the first defensive end 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.200 off the board. Every saying Bradley Chubb's going to the 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.880 Colts at three. That was that's the big buzz. Everybody's 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.040 got him as a top five player. But you look 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.840 at Marcus Davenport, You're saying, he, well, here's a big man. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.760 Bradley chubbs six four, two hundred and sixty nine pounds, 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.199 very similar type guy. But David Ports a little bit 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.800 maybe a little bit a little bit later on. Yeah, 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.320 but he's he runs a four four one. And these 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.679 are the things you see, you know, four to four one, 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.600 excuse me. In the twenty shuttle. That's the lateral agility, 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.800 you know, that's how you see, that's pass rushers, that's 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.440 ability to get around the corner, to move, to plant 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.839 your foot, get back, you know, redirect and all that. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.480 So again, numbers are all part of just trying to 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.839 make an evaluation of the player. And when speaking of 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:37.880 defensive players, Uh, the what's the you've seen is what's 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.760 his bend ability? You know what I mean? Yeah, what's 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.719 and what versus Chubb? What have you seen? Chubb's got 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.760 a little bit. Chubb's got that little bit more of 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.559 that of ability to dip the shoulder as a as 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:52.640 a former, the thing to give offensive lineman problems is 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.880 when you don't give when you have to face a 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.280 guy that doesn't give you any hitting sets right man 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.440 in the yeah, it would, Yeah, he he need you 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.480 need when Nate's blocking, he needs to know that when 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.320 his left hand hits that his right hand's gonna hit 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.960 something right. And these really good ones have the ability 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:15.520 to dip and get almost sideways. And now Nate's struggling 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.200 because his left hand not a half you know what 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.760 hits him. And now he's thinking, oh my god, I 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.080 gotta come with the right. And then the right goes 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.480 behind or goes over or goes you know. And now 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.280 he's a one hour and football player. And these guys 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.120 are gonna win because they're dip low, they've got the 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:36.440 shoulder down, and they've got an angle to the right 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.240 to the course right. Yeah, he's Nate's pushed Chubb into 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.520 a sack. Yeah. Is that the drill they run when 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.360 they put the hula hoops down on the ground. Yeah, 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.480 that's the whole idea, is how low can you run 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:52.000 and still maintain body control and balance, because that is 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.800 the one thing. DeMarcus Ware was one of the best 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.440 I've ever seen at the de Marcus Ware had an 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:02.080 ability to attack you and they'll get real small. But 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.120 then once he got on the outside other side of 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.080 the tunnel, he was onto your quarterback. And that's the 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.280 that's what the good ones do. If you play tall. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.480 Nate Newton loves you all that man, Nate the tar 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.960 you get the more. And that's where you watch when 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:18.080 you watch these defensive lineman who went yesterday, if you 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.160 really watch them in the drills, they did all kinds 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.560 of bendy drills to see and you can and that's 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.800 what shuttles tell you a lot about though, that ability, 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.480 the three cone, the short shuttle, those change your direction. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.640 What's your what's your favorite drill to watch the whole combine? 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.920 My favorite drill? I there's a couple of when it 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.160 depends on what position you watch. Were just watched the 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.880 gauntlet drill. And I was trying to explain to you 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.040 guys about and you I think you guys picked up 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.360 on it after about the third guy that was weaving 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.720 like he was a Bourbon Street drunk right like he 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:49.760 was walking down him and there it sounds like, yeah 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.040 from experience, yeah, well yeah, you know, yeah, go down 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.440 Bourbon Street kind of kind of weave, you'd weave down 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.800 the middle of the street. The guys should have the 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.280 ability to stay straight, have confidence in their hands that 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.640 defensive backs receivers. If you see a guy constantly weaving 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.960 and fighting the ball, those ball skills are not there. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.680 I love that drill. I absolutely love that. I love 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.880 the drills where I love I talked about the twenty shuttle, 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.880 the lateral stuff because in the three cone, because if 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.360 you can't bend and get down, because you got to 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.800 touch the line to get and burst to get to 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.120 the next line. If you can't bend down to get 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.040 to the line, have you done this? You've done this 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.000 drill a ton, right, and you couldn't been down well 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.800 enough to get and then they kept bringing you back 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.280 because you kept missing the line. Right, Mats covering his 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:40.560 face say this, Let me say this as if you 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.400 have a parent has a kid, they can work on 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.440 the three cone. No, no, no, if you have a 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:50.080 parent to have a kid and you know that your 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.880 kid got the ability to be a big guy a 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.640 line on the defensive lineman offensive lima. I try to 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:00.280 tell people, if you can start them with flexibility, there 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.600 you go, there you go, stretching style, work in these 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.919 count of these drills. Yo, kid would be because in 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.040 high school they don't teach him no more. He's how 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.240 about bending? Yeah, how about flexibility? Knees? Now, everybody's in 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.960 the two points stand by sign the NFL get him. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.719 They're like, oh my god, whatever hedentities. Yeah, send him 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.640 to yoga class. Yeah, there's a guy hurt. It would 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.680 not hurt. There's a guy in this draft and im 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.040 and I'm looking at him right now. Is Colton Miller, 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.800 offensive lineman from Ucla. R Colton Miller. He looked like 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.800 he looked like a wide receiver. He's an offensive lineman 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.240 from UCLA. Some people have him in the first round 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.720 of their mock drafts. He's six eight and a half. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.560 He's three hundred and nine pounds. What six eight and 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.120 a half, I'll say it again. Thirty four arms, ten 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.920 and three quarter hands right four to nine eight. We 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.720 actually four nine five is his forty yard dash. Okay, 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.920 thirty one and a half of the vertical, ten one 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.560 on the broad, seven three four in the in the 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.960 three cone, and then four four nine in the shuttle, 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.680 and those are really good times for a big, tall 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.359 offensive lineman. The problem with Colton Miller is he plays 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.080 like he's like he's that like that straight now, there's 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.040 no bending. Get your iron out, lay him down. Yeah, 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.160 that's exactly what he is. He's like a flag pole. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.879 He's a six state flagpole. He plays so tall and 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.520 you watch people and he did he did twenty four 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.639 times on the two twenty five and that, you know, 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.480 for a guy it's got thirty four inch arms. That's 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.560 not bad. I mean, that's that's getting the you know, 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.520 long arm guys have a bad if you see those numbers, 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.720 and it's like he didn't do very many bench reps. 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:33.560 A long way to go, got a long way to go, 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.440 gotta push that way a long way. So but Colton Miller, 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.640 he Nate says, he plays like an ironing book. He's 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.840 so vertical in the way he plays and people get 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.280 into him and they drive him to the quarterback. Yeah, 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:51.280 but everybody's like Colton Miller. Five. He watched the tape. 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.880 Watch the tape, and Colton Miller is like a welcome mat. 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.320 Sometimes might as well have welcome across his chest. You know, 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.000 you know when that's had to tell a parent. And 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:06.879 this is what's so frustrating frustrating? Yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:12.920 the word, what's I liked it? Extra frustrating? I was 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:16.960 I wasn't drafted anyway because asked whether I want to 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:18.520 be a dog or cat, and I don't know what 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:21.560 to say. Was my mom attractive? Of course she was. 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.720 She was my mom. Oh that's wrong, you're a dog. 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:26.359 You're no cat, You're a daughter. Asked me to do 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.159 now you want your mom? I'm like, okay, if that's believe, 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:33.400 I mean, come on man. But anyway, I hate scouts, 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:38.720 don't you. Well no, I love scouts because well I 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.719 tell that the college scouts were better than me than 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.520 the pro scouts. Yeah, because the college scouts got Arizona 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.160 State in order to damn George, all of these guys 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.240 can't recruit me when I went to Florida, and then 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.840 then the pro Scouts treated me like garbage. You want 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.600 to be drafted, no work? Yeah, but anyway, Wow, what 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.000 was I gonna say, hey to my band? And flexibility 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.959 of parents and stuff like that. Your mother's were straded. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.399 What bothers me? Man or dog? That's when you try 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.840 to when you try to tell a parent, Yeah, this 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.320 is what you can do to help your child right now, 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.760 he's eight nineteen. If you do this here religiously three 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.480 times a week, is stretched before and out the work. 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.719 I said, if you do this, your kid will be 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:23.080 at least have a chance to be better. Yeah, don't 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:25.480