1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Before listening, ask a doctor if your heart is healthy 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the boys, 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Shannon Gross Monday at the Star. We have one hell 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: of a show today. We are joined right now by 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Brian brought us. We're gonna talk a little combine and 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: then in a little bit where you're gonna have the 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: original eighty eight. Drew Pearson's gonna join the show. Kurt 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: is on site with him conducting an interview that or something. 11 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: We'll find out what that's about, and they will be 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: here probably fifteen or twenty minutes. What's going on with this, 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: Mike Douglas, That's a good question. I'm watching it. I'm 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: watching the board mover around mysteriously on the game. Are 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: you there here? Hello? Okay, I'll just keep going. We'll 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: see what happens here about me? You got me here? 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Can I do here? What about Nate? Is Nate here? Okay? 18 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: Talking today? Are you there? N talking? What happened? I 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: was talking? I was talking? He wasn't talking? Oh man, 20 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: braun As. How was the trip you just got back? Right? 21 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: It was good? Yeah, we got back yesterday. The we'd 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: stay through. I was telling you guys, we'd stay through 23 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: if they let us. Uh, the NFL kicks us out 24 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Saturday night. We did our draft shows all on all 25 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: last week and then uh yeah, we'd hang in there, 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: but they say, you know, you need to go somewhere else, 27 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: so they send us on home. But it's good to 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: be back. Um, when'd you guys go up? We went 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: last Tuesday, had a lot of content, got ahold of 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, kind of ran some things down about him 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: and some situations with him and does then we got 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Jerry at the end of the week. Had some good 33 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: stories in between, some evaluations and stuff up. It was 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: pretty good week for Scottboys dot Com. And hope everybody 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: went back and kind of checked out the stuff that 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: we were doing. Yeah, you guys did a hell of 37 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: a job. Thank you, congratulations on that. Thank you appreciate that. Awesome. 38 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: So I know, uh wow, I know Nate's gonna have 39 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: a ton of questions for you, and I hope they're good. 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, always good. I know, I know if 41 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: he asked me if this is the question I'll get. 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: He wants to know who you who? You got us? 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Take it at nineteen? No, No, I'm not, I'm not. 44 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm a word about it. What's the question I do 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: not want to hear today? Uh, I'll just put it 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: like this. If you ask them about a guy that's 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: that that place that's running, and he say, does does 48 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: he look good? Brod's gonna get mad at you because 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: they all look good in panties? I mean he's short. No, 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: that's the thing. An, No, that's who look good? They're 51 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: all good. If you if you come and you go, 52 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: who look good? That's a lazy question. Yeah, that's all. 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: That's a lazy question. What about who surprised you? That's 54 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: even better. That's a better question because and and that's 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: and that's the angle you need to take about this 56 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: and again and I'm not trying to be a jerk. 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you get that question, you go it 58 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: could and you know what I could do. I could 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: ruin your show. I could start at player one, you 60 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: go all the way down to three twenty five if 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: that's in there. Yeah, oh yeah, I could go through him. 62 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: I go through them all But what we got to 63 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: remember about the combine, the most important thing is the 64 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: medical stuff, you know, and this week we learned at 65 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: a potential first round pick, Maurice Hurst, the defensive tackle 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: from Michigan, has a heart condition and I was told 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: it's very similar to what Hank Gathers had, who was 68 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: at Loyo the Merrymouth that passed away. So he's going 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Clinic. That's one of the world renown 70 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: hospitals for heart patients and stuff. So we'll see. The 71 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: doctors are going to tell him he could either play 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: or he can't play. There's no in between. I know 73 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: this morning on the mail bag, people are asking us, well, 74 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: could you take him in the fifth round. No, he's 75 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: either got a heart that can play or a heart 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: that can't play. Wow. So that's where we are. But 77 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: that was a potential first round player that was you know, 78 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: was knocked out because of the medical Maybe there'll be 79 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: some other ones down the road. But you know, that's 80 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: that's big because a lot of people that had Maurice 81 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: Hurst defensive tackle mock to the Cowboys at eighteen. That's 82 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: when you guys kind of make fun of me who 83 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna take at eighteen if I said Maurice Hurst, 84 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: maybe not Maurice Hurst. Now, so yeah, it's but it's 85 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: a it's unfortunate. It's good to see these guys run around. 86 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: But the thing to me is the most important thing 87 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: is the film. Okay, we saw Barkley, the running back 88 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: from Penn State, have an incredible workout. You see that 89 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: type of workout on tape. Now there's some guys here that, 90 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: like I say, they will work out that didn't work 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: out as good, but their tape is much better. That's 92 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: that's where you have to That's where I think you 93 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: have to be careful about the combine. The kid Griffin 94 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: from from UCF from Central Florida, Chakeem Griffin, who is 95 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: a linebacker. He's got the handicap he has one hand. 96 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: It was a birth defect, you know. And so now 97 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: you know he's gone from being like a guy that 98 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: we all talk about out as a third round player, 99 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: fourth round player, to people saying, hey, Brian, can you 100 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: take him at nineteen because of the workout. You love 101 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: the intangibles, you love the workout. The tape is good, 102 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: but you have to figure out what you would do 103 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: with a six foot two hundred and twenty seven pound 104 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: linebacker that might not be a starter. You can't take 105 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: a guy like that in the first round. You can't. Now, 106 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: you could take it out depending on what position he 107 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: plays as a will linebacker, that's his best position. You 108 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: have one of the better will linebackers in the league 109 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: playing for you right now. You can't say, well, hey, 110 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: let's move him to Sam. Hey let's move him to mic. 111 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: That's not this guy's thing. So you have to be careful, 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: make sure the tape matches what you're seeing in the workout, 113 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: and then and then be able to kind of adjust 114 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the guys from there. I'm on with you one hundred percent. Man. 115 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: I used an analogy while talking to him this morning. 116 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: Nate Newton will not work out well. Nate Newton on 117 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: the underwear Olympics will not work out well. But Nate 118 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: Newton on tape will impress you. That's what I think. 119 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: That's where I think you have to You know, Orlando 120 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: Brown University of Oklahoma tackle terrible workout, But if you 121 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: watch the tape, it's a lot different to how he plays. 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: He does play with power, he does play with some mobility. 123 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: He's got a little lateral slide to him. But you 124 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: watch him go through the drills, he's got awful. Let 125 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: me ask you this, that's a great point. How how 126 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: much is this just for show and just getting to 127 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: see the guys in person and interview, and how much 128 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: because it is guy can play, he can play, He 129 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: could play, he could play. Yeah, And that's the thing 130 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: about it is you've got a lot of guys. I'll 131 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: give another example of guy. There's a guy named Dylan Cantrell. 132 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: He's a wide receiver from from Texas Tech. I haven't 133 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: studied Daling Cantrell. Dylan Cantrell is sixty three, two hundred 134 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: and twenty six pounds. He runs right about a four 135 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: to five nine, which under wide receiver things would be 136 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: you know that that's slow, that's not good. But then 137 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: you look at the other measurable parts of him though. 138 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: His vertical jumps thirty eight and a half ten ten 139 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: on the broad jump six five six, and the three 140 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: cone drill is outstanding four h three in the short 141 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: shuttle is rare for a wide receiver that tall and 142 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: is sixty shuttle is ten eight five, which is another 143 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: rare thing. Okay, if you watched, if you if you 144 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: didn't know, if you just said Dylan Cantrell runs a 145 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: four or five nine, you would say, okay, we got 146 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: to move on. But then you got the other things. 147 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: What this combine will do. It will make you go 148 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: back and watch guys. It'll make you go back and say, 149 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: why did I not have where? What did I not see? 150 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: I see the lateral I see the lateral quickness, I 151 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: see the ability to burst the explosive. Does the tape 152 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: show me that? That's where the combine could be very useful. 153 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: I talked about the medical stuff being verily important because 154 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: now we learned that Maurice Hurst has a threatening heart condition. 155 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Well but now, but also though I've had the opportunity 156 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: to interview some guys too, I've sat down and talk 157 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: to I think the medical and the interviews, and then 158 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: what the little bit numbers some of these guys, as 159 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: we don't have accurate heights and weights on. Now we 160 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: have accurate heights and weights, and now we have a 161 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: little bit of a time with some speed. If you 162 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: really like a guy, I'm gonna go to Florida A 163 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: and M and work Nate Newton out. If his his 164 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: workout might be bad you know it might be bad, 165 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: but I'm watching Nate Newton the player, and I'm going nah, 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: nah nah no, this guy's he's no. The tape's better, 167 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: tapes better on this guy. So I'm gonna make my way. 168 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna went my way down there to Florida and 169 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna work him out and I'm gonna say, Okay, 170 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: my eyes are right. He's a good football player. I 171 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: don't need to let the I don't let the times 172 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: affect how I'm going to see him as a player 173 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: and see that. That that's why to us, to us 174 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: it's a dog and pony show, but to the train 175 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: and it's a professional, it's not. Yeah, And that's why 176 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I'm not saying a lot because 177 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: you're asking on the right questions. You are, that's right questions. 178 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: That's why I'm sitting over there like good one, good one, 179 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And and Broddess is gonna give it 180 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: to you straight up. And that that's why people say, well, 181 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: have you watch a lot of the combine? Yeah? And 182 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm like no, no, because everybody looks good to me. 183 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: And then you take you take the guy, the Griffin 184 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: kid that ran the four three eight, And you know 185 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm following it. Oh man, da da da, And I'm 186 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: saying to myself, no, yeah, I already know because I 187 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: knew a little bit about him at UCF, you know. 188 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: And uh, nobody runs harder, work harder, this, that another. 189 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: But he don't And I hate to tell you, but 190 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: he don't play at four to three nine on what 191 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: I've seen, Yeah, he's I will say this. He has 192 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: explosive quickness. There's there's some stuff that you watch him 193 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: play on you know, on film, and there's a lot 194 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: of really positive traits. If you're gonna draft him, and 195 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: it's not just because of the handicap the one hand, 196 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: you have to have a plan for him, and I 197 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: think it's let him play off the ball and let 198 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: him run. That's the thing if you're asking him. And 199 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: it's not that he won't fight blocks, but at his size, 200 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: it's tougher for him to get off blocks when people 201 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: get on him. That's upbreaks. If he was sixty two, 202 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: sixty three you you you you. I'm not saying you 203 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: would draft him, but you will move him up. Well, 204 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: let's let's get an example a guy that is that 205 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: big and a lot of cowboy fans have a lot 206 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: of people have been talking about this guy, Tremaine Edmonds 207 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: from Virginia Tech now Virginia Tech. I mean to me, 208 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds can play all three spots. Play the SAM, 209 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: you can play the mic, you could play the will. 210 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: Considering something's happening to you're likely not gonna get back. 211 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchens, see better figure out a way to find 212 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: a mic linebacker. I don't think you want to move 213 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: Stean Lee back to mike linebacker. I think you want 214 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: to keep him at the will and let him do that. 215 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: But Tremaine Edmonds is six to four, he's two hundred 216 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: and fifty three pounds. His arm linked is thirty four 217 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: and a half. Okay, And now, okay, I see it. 218 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: I got a tall guy, big guy, long arm, So okay, 219 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: I can see a guy that plays off blocks as well. 220 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: But you get to, like to say, four or five 221 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: four for a guy that big, that's pretty good right there. 222 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: But then you start to get into some of the 223 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: other things about him, though, and you're like nine nine 224 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: on the broad jump. That for a guy that big, 225 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: that's not a very explosive guy. But see the numbers 226 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: don't say explosive on the jumps and stuff, but what 227 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: but you watch him on tape, he plays explosive. So 228 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: it's it's it's one of those things you're kind of like, again, 229 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: you use these numbers as a guy to kind of say, Okay, 230 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: do I need to go back and look at some 231 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: of these guys and do I And I'm not a yeah, 232 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: do I do I do? I'm not making up. I'm 233 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: not trying to say, oh, wait a minute, he ran 234 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: a four three eight at the combine. Well, you could 235 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: see the Griffin kid play that fact, I mean, you 236 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: could see him play with that kind of that kind 237 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: of a burst, that explosiveness. But then again, some of 238 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: these other guys you're like, I know the tape and 239 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: then but you got to make sure the competition too. 240 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: You know, for example, the kid from the kid from 241 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: San Antonio from ut San Antonio that that that everybody's Davenport, 242 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: that everybody's talking about. You know, here's a guy that 243 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: that to me is a really really really interesting player. Again, 244 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: he's six five almost six six, two hundred and sixty 245 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: four pounds, you know, four five eight in the forty. Yeah, 246 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: so then you're starting to see, Okay, the twenty shuttles 247 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: the things where you have to have lateral Julie, he 248 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: has the same twenty shuttle four four one as Bradley Chubb, 249 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: who is the big time North Carolina State. Everybody's talking about, Okay, 250 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: who could be Who's gonna be the first defensive end 251 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: off the board. Every saying Bradley Chubb's going to the 252 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Colts at three. That was that's the big buzz. Everybody's 253 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: got him as a top five player. But you look 254 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: at Marcus Davenport, You're saying, he, well, here's a big man. 255 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Bradley chubbs six four, two hundred and sixty nine pounds, 256 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: very similar type guy. But David Ports a little bit 257 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit a little bit later on. Yeah, 258 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: but he's he runs a four four one. And these 259 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: are the things you see, you know, four to four one, 260 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: excuse me. In the twenty shuttle. That's the lateral agility, 261 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, that's how you see, that's pass rushers, that's 262 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: ability to get around the corner, to move, to plant 263 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: your foot, get back, you know, redirect and all that. 264 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: So again, numbers are all part of just trying to 265 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: make an evaluation of the player. And when speaking of 266 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: defensive players, Uh, the what's the you've seen is what's 267 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: his bend ability? You know what I mean? Yeah, what's 268 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: and what versus Chubb? What have you seen? Chubb's got 269 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. Chubb's got that little bit more of 270 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: that of ability to dip the shoulder as a as 271 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: a former, the thing to give offensive lineman problems is 272 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: when you don't give when you have to face a 273 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: guy that doesn't give you any hitting sets right man 274 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: in the yeah, it would, Yeah, he he need you 275 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: need when Nate's blocking, he needs to know that when 276 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: his left hand hits that his right hand's gonna hit 277 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: something right. And these really good ones have the ability 278 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: to dip and get almost sideways. And now Nate's struggling 279 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: because his left hand not a half you know what 280 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: hits him. And now he's thinking, oh my god, I 281 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: gotta come with the right. And then the right goes 282 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: behind or goes over or goes you know. And now 283 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: he's a one hour and football player. And these guys 284 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: are gonna win because they're dip low, they've got the 285 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: shoulder down, and they've got an angle to the right 286 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: to the course right. Yeah, he's Nate's pushed Chubb into 287 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: a sack. Yeah. Is that the drill they run when 288 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: they put the hula hoops down on the ground. Yeah, 289 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: that's the whole idea, is how low can you run 290 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: and still maintain body control and balance, because that is 291 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: the one thing. DeMarcus Ware was one of the best 292 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: I've ever seen at the de Marcus Ware had an 293 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: ability to attack you and they'll get real small. But 294 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: then once he got on the outside other side of 295 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: the tunnel, he was onto your quarterback. And that's the 296 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: that's what the good ones do. If you play tall. 297 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: Nate Newton loves you all that man, Nate the tar 298 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: you get the more. And that's where you watch when 299 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: you watch these defensive lineman who went yesterday, if you 300 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: really watch them in the drills, they did all kinds 301 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: of bendy drills to see and you can and that's 302 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: what shuttles tell you a lot about though, that ability, 303 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: the three cone, the short shuttle, those change your direction. 304 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: What's your what's your favorite drill to watch the whole combine? 305 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: My favorite drill? I there's a couple of when it 306 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: depends on what position you watch. Were just watched the 307 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: gauntlet drill. And I was trying to explain to you 308 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: guys about and you I think you guys picked up 309 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: on it after about the third guy that was weaving 310 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: like he was a Bourbon Street drunk right like he 311 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: was walking down him and there it sounds like, yeah 312 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: from experience, yeah, well yeah, you know, yeah, go down 313 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: Bourbon Street kind of kind of weave, you'd weave down 314 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: the middle of the street. The guys should have the 315 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: ability to stay straight, have confidence in their hands that 316 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: defensive backs receivers. If you see a guy constantly weaving 317 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: and fighting the ball, those ball skills are not there. 318 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: I love that drill. I absolutely love that. I love 319 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: the drills where I love I talked about the twenty shuttle, 320 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: the lateral stuff because in the three cone, because if 321 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: you can't bend and get down, because you got to 322 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: touch the line to get and burst to get to 323 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: the next line. If you can't bend down to get 324 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: to the line, have you done this? You've done this 325 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: drill a ton, right, and you couldn't been down well 326 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: enough to get and then they kept bringing you back 327 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: because you kept missing the line. Right, Mats covering his 328 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: face say this, Let me say this as if you 329 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: have a parent has a kid, they can work on 330 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: the three cone. No, no, no, if you have a 331 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: parent to have a kid and you know that your 332 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: kid got the ability to be a big guy a 333 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: line on the defensive lineman offensive lima. I try to 334 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: tell people, if you can start them with flexibility, there 335 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: you go, there you go, stretching style, work in these 336 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: count of these drills. Yo, kid would be because in 337 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: high school they don't teach him no more. He's how 338 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: about bending? Yeah, how about flexibility? Knees? Now, everybody's in 339 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: the two points stand by sign the NFL get him. 340 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, whatever hedentities. Yeah, send him 341 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: to yoga class. Yeah, there's a guy hurt. It would 342 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: not hurt. There's a guy in this draft and im 343 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at him right now. Is Colton Miller, 344 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: offensive lineman from Ucla. R Colton Miller. He looked like 345 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: he looked like a wide receiver. He's an offensive lineman 346 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: from UCLA. Some people have him in the first round 347 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: of their mock drafts. He's six eight and a half. 348 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: He's three hundred and nine pounds. What six eight and 349 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: a half, I'll say it again. Thirty four arms, ten 350 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: and three quarter hands right four to nine eight. We 351 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: actually four nine five is his forty yard dash. Okay, 352 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: thirty one and a half of the vertical, ten one 353 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: on the broad, seven three four in the in the 354 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: three cone, and then four four nine in the shuttle, 355 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: and those are really good times for a big, tall 356 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. The problem with Colton Miller is he plays 357 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: like he's like he's that like that straight now, there's 358 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: no bending. Get your iron out, lay him down. Yeah, 359 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: that's exactly what he is. He's like a flag pole. 360 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: He's a six state flagpole. He plays so tall and 361 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: you watch people and he did he did twenty four 362 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: times on the two twenty five and that, you know, 363 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: for a guy it's got thirty four inch arms. That's 364 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: not bad. I mean, that's that's getting the you know, 365 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: long arm guys have a bad if you see those numbers, 366 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: and it's like he didn't do very many bench reps. 367 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: A long way to go, got a long way to go, 368 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: gotta push that way a long way. So but Colton Miller, 369 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: he Nate says, he plays like an ironing book. He's 370 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: so vertical in the way he plays and people get 371 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: into him and they drive him to the quarterback. Yeah, 372 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: but everybody's like Colton Miller. Five. He watched the tape. 373 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: Watch the tape, and Colton Miller is like a welcome mat. 374 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes might as well have welcome across his chest. You know, 375 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: you know when that's had to tell a parent. And 376 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: this is what's so frustrating frustrating? Yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever 377 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: the word, what's I liked it? Extra frustrating? I was 378 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't drafted anyway because asked whether I want to 379 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: be a dog or cat, and I don't know what 380 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: to say. Was my mom attractive? Of course she was. 381 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: She was my mom. Oh that's wrong, you're a dog. 382 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: You're no cat, You're a daughter. Asked me to do 383 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: now you want your mom? I'm like, okay, if that's believe, 384 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean, come on man. But anyway, I hate scouts, 385 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: don't you. Well no, I love scouts because well I 386 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: tell that the college scouts were better than me than 387 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: the pro scouts. Yeah, because the college scouts got Arizona 388 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: State in order to damn George, all of these guys 389 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: can't recruit me when I went to Florida, and then 390 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: then the pro Scouts treated me like garbage. You want 391 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: to be drafted, no work? Yeah, but anyway, Wow, what 392 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: was I gonna say, hey to my band? And flexibility 393 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: of parents and stuff like that. Your mother's were straded. 394 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: What bothers me? Man or dog? That's when you try 395 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: to when you try to tell a parent, Yeah, this 396 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: is what you can do to help your child right now, 397 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: he's eight nineteen. If you do this here religiously three 398 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: times a week, is stretched before and out the work. 399 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: I said, if you do this, your kid will be 400 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: at least have a chance to be better. Yeah, don't 401 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: do it. Well, the coach said, they do they look 402 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: do they look through you like you're like they're looking 403 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: through the back of your head. Yeah? Yeah, they Well, 404 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: the coach said, and I gotta guard it does this 405 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: and d Yeah, he's right. I get on ben At 406 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: about this all the time because Bennett now is transitioning. 407 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: He'll be a freshman high school in transition. Bennets brought 408 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: us the sun. Yeah, he trans brings him to training 409 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: camp every year. He'll be there for the next month. 410 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: He loves me, Bet and he loves brought us. Yeah. 411 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: It's that is the truth. That is the truth, and 412 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: so like, you know, try to help him, you know, 413 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: like he's gonna go to the Manning passing camp and 414 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: Thibolow Louisiana. I'm trying to help him that way. But 415 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: I told him, I said, look, and how much do 416 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: you love baseball? And he goes, that's okay, I mean 417 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: I like playing it. I said, you know, you'd get 418 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: in track and he goes, Dad, I'm come on, I'm slow. 419 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean, so that's the point. They will teach you. 420 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: You might not be fast, but they will work on 421 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: your flexibility. They will work on your footwork. Yes, and 422 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: you might get you might get mauled in every event 423 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: you ever play in, but you will be training to 424 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: work on your feet and your flexibility. Tom Brady got mauled. 425 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: To look at him, go, I remember that. You know 426 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: you look at the combine with Tom Brady. I remember 427 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: that combine. You know you can watch some of the drills. 428 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was like the ironing board guy out there. 429 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: But but tom Brady developed, you know, he developed some flexibility, 430 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: some bend, some some bit to be able to play 431 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: with your knees bent. And that's what I'm saying, Like, 432 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, he's right, He's given parents the right advice 433 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: because I'm the same way I'm thinking about, Okay, take 434 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: Bennett out of baseball, put him in track. I mean, 435 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm about take him over that Michael Johnson school. Say 436 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: I tried to bag my baby boss king dude trade. Yeah. 437 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: Now now, now I say, your boy as leaving to 438 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: go to the pros. Yeah, I say, I bet he flexible. Yeah, 439 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: I bet he can be in ye. And now you 440 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: look at me now, Oh yeah, it don't matter where 441 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: you come from, Brian him, I'll find you. Yeah, they 442 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: will find you. Oh No, that's that's that's that's the 443 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: absolute truth. I mean because I've I've even talked about 444 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: moving into other locations, like being a parent, just so 445 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: he had an address, and He's like, no, I like 446 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: going to school. So I'll do whatever I have to 447 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: do for my kid to have success. My kid might 448 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: only play high school football, he might not ever be 449 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: to get to go to the Combine. But like Nate says, 450 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: you give advice, right, you get it. I'm not. I'm 451 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: not stupid enough. I'm not stupid to not listen to 452 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: Nate Newton. He's been there, right, you know, I've seen it. 453 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: With my own eyes. So anyway, the combine, that's that's 454 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: kind of what it's happen. What so what are the 455 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: next steps? Combine? Didn't they bring walk people through what 456 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: happened from the organization. Now we go from the combine 457 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: to the actual pro days and and and it's really 458 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: more important for guys that maybe didn't have a great 459 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: forty time. Guys will come to they'll go to their 460 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: own facility, they'll train better scout scouts will work with them, 461 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: they'll get better numbers, they'll get lower numbers. It's really 462 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: important for these quarterbacks. You know, Sam Darnold, the quarterback 463 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: USC did not throw in the combin, but the other 464 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: quarterbacks did. Hey, I'm off for the competitive quarterback. If 465 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna throw, great, But they'll go they'll have these 466 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: pro days and these guys not a ball will hit 467 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: the ground. But this is a this is a tough 468 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: environment to throw football in because, hey, you're throwing the guys, 469 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: you're a little bit of the mercy of the receivers. 470 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: You can never work with these guys and you might 471 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: get a run just because your last name begins with 472 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: a D. And they do it in alphabetic order to 473 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: match you with receivers. You might get three guys when 474 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: you're three throws might not be very good. Yeah, can't 475 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: run a route to take it open. And I say, 476 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen, the Wyoming quarterback who had a 477 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: really good you know, the arm strength and all that, 478 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: he had a little bit of a benefit because he 479 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: had better receivers. He threw to it the combine then 480 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: he did at Wyoming, and so people kind of change that. 481 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, the next thing is we'll have the pro days. 482 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: We got free agency coming up March twelfth, so that 483 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: that'll no, that'll affect, but that'll affect the draft. That'll 484 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: affect the draft. So some people kind of supplement they 485 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: get guys, maybe you won't see them going. But yeah, 486 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: we're fifty some odd days and draft right now. When 487 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: do they bring the players in April? It's the end 488 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: of March, first week in April. They will bring those 489 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: guys in. What is that? What is that process? That's 490 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: the thirty visit thing that that you're allowed to bring 491 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: a guy in really not. They have a thing called 492 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: Dallas Day that they're allowed that's where they can work 493 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: these kids out. Dallas Day. They can work the kids out. Now, 494 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: you could work a kid out at your facility if 495 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: you want to bring one of your thirty in, but 496 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: he has to be from your hometown, like Courtland's Sutton 497 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: from from SMU. If they wanted to work him out 498 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: at Ford Center in the Ford Center, they could do 499 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: that because he's a local kid. Now, they can't take 500 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: a receiver from US or Michigan one of those places 501 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: and bring him in because he's not from here. Okay, 502 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: so if he lives here, well, if he went to 503 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: high school here, if he went to high school with 504 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: to high school here, he can do it high school here. Yes, 505 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: if it's if the longest the DFW is your home, 506 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: they can work you out here. But the thirty visits 507 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: mainly is to just to get to know Jerry Stephen Jones, 508 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: sit down with them, visiting all that kind of. They'll 509 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: be walking around over here to the cafeteria, We'll get 510 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: to see the kids and then the Dallas Day though, 511 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: is more about physical workouts for maybe guys that are 512 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: down the line that they might be late draft picks 513 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: or a priority free agent. Did the Cowboys bring Cole 514 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: Beasley and Floyd He did? Yeahallas Day, Yes, he did. Yeah, yeah, 515 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: So when's the draft show this week? We go tomorrow. 516 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: I know we usually go before you guys on Monday, 517 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: but we have the combine wrapping up. We're gonna wrap 518 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: it up tomorrow, Dame Brigo, David Helme and myself. We'll 519 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: get that done ten am tomorrow, So saying am tomorrow, 520 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: stay tuned for that brought us. We appreciate it, man, 521 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for making Thank you man. I appreciate you. Guys, 522 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: we come back. We will have a legend and a 523 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: legend on the show. If you didn't get nothing else 524 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: out of this show. To remember flexibility, flexibility, flexibility on 525 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: hanging with the boys give me hard to find the 526 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: right resource for learning about important financial matters. 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What 536 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: does it mean to be a Dallas Cowboys fan? It 537 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: means you've got the passion and the heart to do 538 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: your part supporting the Boys no matter what. That's why 539 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: when the game's on the line, you're on your feet, 540 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: whether you're at home or in the stands. Actually, you're 541 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: more than a fan. You are a member of Cowboys Nation, 542 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: and so is AT and T doing their part to 543 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: keep you connected to America's team all season. Law AT 544 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: and T is a proud member of Cowboys Nations. Ice Cold, 545 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper and the Dallas Cowboys go way back. They 546 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: belonged together like Texas and Football, Silver and Blue shotgun 547 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: formations and Hail Mary's. Having a Cowboys football party without 548 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper is like having Thanksgiving without the Cowboys. Basically, 549 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: we wouldn't recommend it. So next time you have a tailgate, homegate, 550 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: or whatever else kind of gate, grab some ice Cold 551 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper for you and your friends to enjoy. It's 552 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys tradition. Doctor Pepper the one you crave. 553 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: To work this big land. You need equipment with values 554 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: rooted as deep in Texas soil. As you are like 555 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: John Dear compact tractors with a six year power train, 556 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: warrant to in big features that help you work less 557 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: so you have more time to do what you love. 558 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: John Deer was first in the Texas fields and we're 559 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: proud to be on the field as the official agg 560 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: and turf equipment of the Dallas Cowboys. Find Texas sized 561 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: deals and my John Dear Dealer dot com slash football terms, conditions, 562 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: exclusions and warranty limitations apply seem to love for details. 563 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: Back to hanging with the bulls. Here comes the blitz 564 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: Roger going deep for drill down the sideline twenty five 565 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: put ten put down Dallas Cowboys and you would not 566 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: believe the spike. The Drew Pierson just put on that ball? 567 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: What was that, Douglas? That was a Drew Pearson touchdown 568 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: from October nineteen seventy seven hosting Washington at Texas Stadium. 569 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: I missed that. Could you play any game? Yeah, I'll 570 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: tell you what good play it twice. You know you 571 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 1: are a big deal when they have a piece of 572 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: artwork in the star that has your likeness on it. 573 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: If you've never been to the star. The hail Mary, 574 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: frame by frame is hanging about forty feet in the 575 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: air all the way down to the bottom floor. So 576 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: if you ever come check that out, you can even 577 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: see there's an orange being thrown at Drew catching the 578 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: ball and I started to catch that too, did you, 579 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Drew that? I like that? Wow, that is a super piece. 580 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: When the first time I saw that, you know, I'm 581 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: not kidding, brought tears to my eyes because to be 582 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: honored and commemorated like that, something that will be there 583 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: long after I'm gone and all that kind of stuff, 584 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty special. Yeah, nobody, nobody in that regard does 585 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: it like the cowboy man, I tell you, but he 586 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: has that same type of deal in one of the 587 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: local taverns. Oh is that right? What they got him? 588 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: Turning one up top of the bottles? Even know where 589 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: that is ortalized? It Christie's And I'm making an ortograph 590 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: before we leave. I didn't tell you, but this is 591 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: a story for another time. Me and Kurt actually hung 592 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: out last week. Last week, Christie's Wow came to Uptown 593 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: for for his anniversary and wh man, we'll get into 594 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: that later later. So, Drew, what are you? What are 595 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: you up to these days? Man, what's keeping you busy? Well? 596 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 1: UH doing a lot of appearances and things like that, 597 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: and blessed to UH continue to do that and just 598 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: open up a spot at DFW Airport in Terminal E 599 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: Drew Pearson Sports eighty eight Grill eight five and that's 600 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: been open for two months now. I need to come. 601 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: We just got nominated by the DFW Airport Concessions as 602 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: the Airport Bar of the Year or the National Food 603 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: and Beverage Airport Fooling and Beverage Awards, so we're excited 604 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: about that. I try to hang out there as much 605 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: as I could, intermingle with the travelers as they come through. 606 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: I was watching the championship games out there to AFC 607 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: and NFC Championship game with all the fans or some 608 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: bad weather going on in the area at that time, 609 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: a lot of rain, and just before I guess it 610 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: was a Brady making his comeback against Jacksonville, the satellite 611 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: went out, you know, and everybody come on, you can't 612 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: get satellite. That was not a good time to be 613 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: at the spot, But most of the other times it's 614 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: been great being there, intermingling with the travelers as they 615 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: come through DFW. That's awesome. So before these guys start 616 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: getting into questions, I want to know the story behind 617 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: the draft. And you just giving it to those Eagles fans? 618 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: How did that? Was that? Just spur of the moment? 619 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: Had you planned? Now, I had planned on saying what 620 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: I said, but I had never planned on delivering game. 621 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be nothing like that as 622 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: far as uh, the response that the Philly fans gave me. 623 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: Once I was introduced to make that pick. Yeah, and 624 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: when I come around that corner um after the commissioner 625 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: announced up next as the Cowboys and the second pick 626 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: the sixty picking the second round. By the time when 627 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: he got back backstage, you know, he said, are you 628 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: ready for this? I said, well, I'm used to get 629 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: him booed in Philadelphia, so that should make me feel 630 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: right at home. But I didn't know it was gonna 631 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: be like that. Okay, And I went down that ramp 632 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: Nate and came around that corner. Who they sorry, And 633 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: every step I took to get closer to the podium, 634 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: the booze got louder and louder. And now by the 635 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: time I get to the podium, now I'm fired AMPI mean, 636 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: where's where's Hermit? I wrote a round on him right now. 637 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: I was so fired up they threw me a chief steak. 638 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get. That's something. I was so fired up, 639 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: and I didn't plan on delivering what I said. I 640 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: was going to take advantage of this time on national TV, 641 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: and I wanted to do the Cowboys right because I 642 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: felt honored that they selected me to make this selection. 643 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: All the great Cowboy players, including Nate right here, they 644 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: could have chosen for that opportunity, that honor, but they 645 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: selected me. So I wanted to do him right. So 646 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: on the flight up there, I'm saying, well, you know, 647 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: maybe I should do a little more than read the cards. 648 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: So I was gonna I wanted to gig them about 649 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: being an undrafted free agent, you know. So I wanted 650 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: to say that, but I also wanted to give respect 651 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: to the organization, and so that's why I had planned 652 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: on saying what I said. But there's no way I 653 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: had planned on saying it that way. And as the 654 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: booze got louder and I got louder, and next thing 655 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, I'm yelling I'm fired up. They're fired up, 656 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: and turned out to be a moment that was awesome. Yeah. 657 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: Now you're an ambassador for this year's right. Yeah, I'm 658 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: co ambassador with the great DeMarcus Ware And a lot 659 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: of that has to do with the Cowboys involvement with 660 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: this drafting community giving back to the community through Arlington 661 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: is D and other isds around mentoring and things of 662 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: that nature. And Cowboys. Of course, they're gonna do it 663 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: a little different, you know, and ain't gonna be just 664 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: about the draft and announcing players. They're gonna try to 665 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: get the community and then do some things extend it 666 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: a little more than just the draft and take advantage 667 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: of the opportunity and exposure. You're gonna get the cost 668 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: of the draft. Yes, So I'm excited about that and 669 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: appreciative again of that opportunity. Wow, man, I just sid 670 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: it all day and listen to him. Any more questions? Man? 671 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean is it's like, yeah, Well it goes out, man, 672 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: it goes how many places we go out? Douglass, I 673 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: got to watch my language. It's the internet. You're fine. 674 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Whatever said anything Shannon hadn't said five or six. Okay, 675 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: we're in good shape. I have to ask you why 676 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: we have you here. I mean, you're you're the original 677 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: eighty eight. You've faced a lot of the same pressures 678 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: that Dez is facing now. I mean, how do you 679 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: see this? Everybody's talking about Daz? Will they keeping? Will 680 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: they not? What do you how do you read this? Well? 681 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, uh, it was a tough season, you know, 682 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: for Daz individually and for the team and for the 683 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: offense in particular the passing game, and you know it 684 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: wasn't it's down from the previous year and that type 685 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: of thing. So you know, when it's over and you 686 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: have that disappointment, you got to point to fingers somewhere, 687 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: and unfortunately the fingers have really been pointing at Daz, 688 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: you know, like he's the reason the passing game hasn't gone, 689 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: or he's the reason we didn't make the playoffs or 690 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: something like that. So if that's the conversation, if that's 691 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: what's going on, man, you know, I think we might 692 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: need to take advantage of that. Okay, what I mean 693 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: by that is, I know, with this AD eight and 694 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: I know with Michael eighty eight, if somebody's talking negative 695 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: about us and telling us we can't do something, that's 696 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: all the motivation we need to prove them wrong. And 697 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: I know Daz wearing eighty eight. If we give him 698 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: another opportunity to show what he can do and be 699 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: that receiver he was before the last couple of years 700 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: when injury started accumulating, and that's you know, that's a 701 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: deadly sin for a wide receiver. You know, we don't 702 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: want any injuries to our legs or hands. Those are 703 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: our bread and butters. Sometimes the accumulation of those things, 704 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: you know, we have to make adjustments in our game. 705 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: I think Dez will do that. But if he's hearing 706 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: all this negative talk and they work it out where 707 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: he does come back, boy, I think we're going to 708 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: get a heck of a football player because he's going 709 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: to be motivated to prove people wrong. And that's what 710 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: the double hs are all about. And I know Dez 711 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: has that DNA in him and that's what got him 712 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: to where he is now. And so he just asked 713 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: to work hard get it back. And if the opportunity 714 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: is here for him to play again, man, let's take 715 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: advantage of that. Was it in your career? Was it 716 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: any situations like that where it became down. I know 717 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 1: they didn't mean to have the free agency now that 718 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: then that we have now. But was any moments like 719 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: that in your career where he's where people say, well, 720 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: we don't know if Drew got it now? Well, yeah, actually, Nate, 721 00:36:54,239 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: that's a good, good question because in eighty three, actually 722 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: it turned out to me my last year and because 723 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: I had that car accident in eighty four, had forced 724 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 1: to retire. But yeah, Butch Johnson, they were talking about 725 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: taking Butch and putting them in my spot, you know, 726 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: I mean all offseason they're talking about this. We get 727 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: to the preseason. You know, back in the day Nate 728 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: we played preseason, we had we had six of them 729 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 1: to get I'm glad they dropped it down to four. Yeah, 730 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, so it was a process every 731 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: year going through the preseason. You played you know, so 732 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: many quarters or snaps early and then as you built 733 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: up to the end of the the preseason, now you're supposed 734 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: to play three quarters because coach Landry wanted you to 735 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: get the field of starting a game, playing through a 736 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: half of a game, then going in the locker room 737 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: making adjustments, and coming back out in the second half 738 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: and getting ready to play well in the final preseason game. 739 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: In eighty three. I come back out in the second half. 740 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: They put Butch Johnson in there, and I'm upset. Okay. 741 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: And after the game, I go in there and talked 742 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: to Dan Reeves, who was the receiver coach, and I'm 743 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: laying it on him. All right. Everybody in the locker 744 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: room could hear me and all this and uh, but 745 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: they were telling me that Butch was They wanted Butch 746 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: in there. Dan Reeves was really pushing Butch. But that 747 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: just motivated me. I felt this through the off season. 748 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: I had the best offseason I had every I didn't 749 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 1: even drive my car, Okay, when I went to the store, 750 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: I ran whenever. You know, I'm gonna get grocery. I'm 751 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: carrying groceries. I was. I said, I'm gonna be in 752 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: the best shape I could possibly be because Butch was 753 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: talking all this noise, He's gonna take my job. So 754 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: that motivated me. And I started out the season. I 755 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: had thirty thirty catches in the first five games, and 756 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: for us back then, that's a lot. And because I 757 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: was ready to go and I put Butch down here, 758 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: so anytime the motivate even coming in as an undrafted 759 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: free agent, somebody's telling me. You know this is now, 760 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: I'm AD eight. But no one knows what ADI eight's 761 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: all about then. But now you're trying to set a legacy. 762 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: When you come in as an undrafted free agent seventeen 763 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: rounds of the draft, bourn and fifty two players, you know, 764 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: somebody's telling you you ain't good enough. You know that 765 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: I've forgotten that me that motivated me as well. Yeah, well, 766 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: Butch Johnson went to Denver with Dan Reeves. It's like, okay, 767 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: so you want him, you got him? Yeah. Well, actually 768 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: at first they traded. This is even after my car 769 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: accident in eighty four, that Butch had talked so much 770 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: noise and burned so many bridges. They still traded him, 771 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: knowing that I was not going to make it back 772 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: and play again. They traded him to the Houston Oilers 773 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: and then the Oilers. Uh he got cut by the 774 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: Oilers and Denver picked Oh wow, yeah, and so you 775 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: know Butcher's original, Yeah, just crying the whole time. You know, 776 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: he played behind me and Tony for eight well me 777 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: eight seasons. You know, he was always pushing us, and 778 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: that was good, you know, the competition, seditiveness that's good 779 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: because he was good. You know, you could be talking 780 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: to him right now instead of me, that's how good 781 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: he was. But after a while, I said, hey, he 782 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: ain't gonna get nothing over here over there. Tony said, 783 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: why are you sending him over here? Tony went to 784 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: going a little deeper, a little fast. He said, why 785 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: are you sending him over here? I said, well, you 786 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: want nothing over here? Yeah. Yeah, you gotta find whatever 787 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: you can to motivate yourself. And I think, if you know, 788 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: Dez is a cowboy going forward, I think he'll be 789 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: a motivated Dallas cowboy and tried to prove a lot 790 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: of when Dez was a rookie. I remember hearing you 791 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: do a postgame show and people were asking about you know, 792 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: when when somebody comes in and tackles Des he doesn't 793 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: go down and he takes about three extra hits, and 794 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: you said, well, he'll learn not to do that. Well, 795 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: he never learned, and maybe that's one of the reasons 796 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: he's had the injuries he's had throughout his career. Yeah. 797 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: Maybe so. Yeah, he was pretty reckless as a runner. 798 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: But in the NFL, you know, you got to a philosophy, 799 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: theate to live to play another day. Okay, you know 800 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta know when to hold them, know when 801 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: to fold them. In the NFL, and if you can 802 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: fight for that extra yard, yeah, you gotta go get it. 803 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: You know, that's our that's in our DNA, that's how 804 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: we are built, right to keep fighting and stuff like that. 805 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, if you if 806 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: you're fighting for that extra yard and you know that 807 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: guy's coming, and you know back in the day, you 808 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: know they could stand you up and hold you here 809 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: they coming, damn you know, so you had to know 810 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: when the duck and get down. You gotta make business 811 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: decisions sometimes business decisions. But that's what Daz has to do. 812 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: Now he's an older receivers not the same. Yeah, so 813 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: now you got to make adjustments. And one of the 814 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: adjustments that is when you know, take the hit or 815 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: go down or something like that, fight for the extra yard. 816 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: I never would condone anybody running out of bounds. I 817 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: hate when I see that, you know, especially with a 818 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: receiver or running out of bounds, and they could cut 819 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: back and they run out of the run out of 820 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: bounds and they could get that four or five yards. 821 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: And now you say well, I didn't know. Big deal. 822 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: While you get down to inside the red zone, you 823 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: know you're now the four or five yards make a 824 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: big difference. Right. What's what's one thing that's changed in 825 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: the game now from when you played that you see 826 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: something that really stands out to you? Just to practice, 827 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: the time, the commitment to practice and meetings and stuff 828 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: like that. I know they're here most of the day, 829 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: but how much times put on the practice field, you know, 830 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: I think it's limited by the collective bargaining agreement. Yeah, uh, 831 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: you know the owners they'll give you that. Okay, you 832 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: don't want you want less practice time, Fine, we'll give 833 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: you that. You know, we we'll take bigger cut of 834 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: the share of the money, but we'll give you less 835 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: practice time because they don't care about you once you 836 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: sit on that field. Because if you don't, if you 837 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: get go on the field with the limited practice time, 838 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: you go out there in Nate and shorts and T 839 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: shirts and a helmet and trying to get prepared to 840 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: play at the NFL game at NFL speed between those 841 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: NFL side lines, you know you ain't prepared for it. 842 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: One of the questions they asked me is how many 843 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: how could you only miss three games in eleven years. Well, 844 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: we were in were conditioned for the physical part of 845 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: the game. We hit in practice even in throughout the season. 846 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: We got that we're rolling for the division title Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 847 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: we're in full pads. We're popping on that first step, 848 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: you know. So we're conditioned to handle the contact. And 849 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: I think with the limited practice and the things that 850 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: these coaches can do with players in practice, I think 851 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: in the long run, it hurts the players once they 852 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: step on the field. That's why you see so many 853 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 1: injuries in the beginning of the season. Your whole players 854 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: out in preseason. You don't want any contact this and 855 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: how what the game is contact. Now you go go 856 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: in again to an NFL sidelines and the contact is 857 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: real at NFL speed, and you get hit for the 858 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 1: first time in six weeks, you know there's a good 859 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: chance injury might happen. So that's the biggest thing I 860 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: don't like it about the game is that the limited 861 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: practice time, the limited time to formulate teams, the changing 862 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 1: of players on a consistent basis. God blessed these coaches 863 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: to keep coaching players up because he can, you know, 864 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: do the whole course of the season, you're you're filling in. 865 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: You're filling in because you know you're going to have 866 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 1: to deal with injuries and you got to find players 867 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: to fill in. I guess that's why Will McClay got extended, 868 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: because you know, I mean, that's a big job now 869 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL to continue to find talent to replace 870 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: talent because some injuries and things of that nature. Yeah, 871 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: ye had. We also hear a lot of talk about 872 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and does finding that chemistry at connection you 873 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: play with two of the greatest and Starbuck and White, 874 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: does it really make a difference having that connection, that 875 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: chemistry with the quarterback. Absolutely? Absolutely, you gotta have it, 876 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: and it's all about it's all developed here in the 877 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: facility in the building, and it ain't like going to 878 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: dinner and all that kind of stuff. I didn't need 879 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: to go to dinner with Roger. You know, by the 880 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: time practice ended, I've been with this guy eight nine 881 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: to ten hours a day. I don't need to be 882 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: in the house. Well, hey, I see you later, Roger. Okay. 883 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: But you know when we were there, we worked, you know, 884 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: before practice, running routes. I mean, we had to get 885 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: out there early. You know, before the team got out there, 886 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: we're running routes, working on things that we'd have in 887 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: the in the game, playing new things. And even though 888 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: the old routes, I can't tell you how I'm wrong. 889 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: How many times when run that eighty three routes ten yards, 890 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 1: start rolling it to twelve or the sideline. Our time 891 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: timing was so impeccable, and it was because the reps. Reps, 892 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: that's all receiving is running routes over and over and over. 893 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you want your receivers 894 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: to get open and have a chance to be successful, 895 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: you got to give them routes to run. Okay, you 896 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: can't have a limited route tree all right. Tony Hill 897 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: had the same route tree as Drew Pearson, but Johnson 898 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: had the same route three is all of us. You know, 899 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: It's not like we have a route three for this 900 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 1: guy because that's all he can run, and that might 901 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: be limited to three routes. Now, you know, we had 902 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 1: a ten route route tree from one to zero, and 903 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: everybody ran those routes. Everybody was required to know how 904 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: to run those routes. Everybody practiced those routes, so Therefore, 905 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: you know when I had this ship to the slot 906 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: or Butch go to the outside. He could run the 907 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: same routes. So I would run if I was out there, 908 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: and now I'm running the same routes he could run 909 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: if he was in the slot. And Tony Hill and 910 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: we are, we are in the change. We didn't have 911 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: the guys staying on the same side like he doing. 912 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: He spread seeing, he spread offenses mostly nowadays. That's in college. 913 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: In high school, you and and and everybody don't had 914 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: the same ability to learn. Uh, everybody in the same 915 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: had the same i Q. But I found out because 916 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: I want the smartest guy on and in our classroom, 917 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we had some guys that just knew the game. 918 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: But through them and through good coaches, I was forced 919 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 1: to learn the game and I was forced to learn 920 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,240 Speaker 1: some things, especially when it came to the whole big picture. 921 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: This is why you're doing what you're doing, because over 922 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 1: here is doing what they're doing. And it all comes again. 923 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: So when when when Dad has to this season, it's 924 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a cram session. But he has to understand 925 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: why you have to know the whole route tree, because 926 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: if you can run every route making it almost look 927 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: the same in certain instances, that opens up other things 928 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: for other people. But if they say, okay, well Dad's 929 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: gonna do a deep out, He's gonna just run straight 930 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 1: down the field, what does that do for you other 931 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: guys in the same way with the other guys. Okay, 932 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: Kobe's he's just gonna run an option route. That's what 933 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: you're doing every third now, Jason, when we know you're 934 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: just going four or five yards down the scene, what 935 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 1: creativity is that? Now? And and you know these coordinators 936 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: that defensive they you know, they had all offseason to study. Yeah, 937 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: they had to tape, they had stuff there. So now 938 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: what they're studying is the things you do well, not 939 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: the stuff you don't do well. They're trying to take 940 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: away the good stuff and things you do well. So 941 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: what do you do as an offense? You know, you 942 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: know you got to make adjustments? And every year we 943 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 1: went in the training camp, Yeah we kept the same 944 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 1: basics to the offense, but we knew, okay, that eighty 945 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: three route all right, this time we're going to run 946 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 1: it and work on it with Drew in motion as 947 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 1: opposed to standing out there, you know, or Drew coming 948 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: across the backfield running it it excuse me, in motion, 949 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, and you come up with different ways to 950 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: make adjustments because you know your opponent is going to 951 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,320 Speaker 1: make adjustments in trying to stop you. So you now 952 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: you got to come up with ways to beat that 953 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: because now what do you say, Well, we're not going 954 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: to throw the ball and Drew anymore because they're concentrating 955 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: on him. No, you got to find a way to 956 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: get it in there. And uh, you know, Roger, some 957 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: of the best routes are the best things that we 958 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: hit were when we were in double when I was 959 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: double covered. I thought we come out the huddle and say, 960 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 1: hope we get double covered because now you got that 961 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: cornerback bumping you. He let you go. Now you're up 962 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 1: on the safety. Oh my god. You know what I'm saying, 963 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: that's like stealing. You know the reason he's a safety, 964 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, oh, Rod, just bring it. 965 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,479 Speaker 1: You know, we wouldn't want to run on him because 966 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: now you just get that ball in my hands. You know, 967 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 1: everybody talking about the radius, every saying no, I told Roger, 968 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: area code, get it in that area code. Okay, yeah, yeah, 969 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 1: I don't know what that radius is, but I think 970 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: it's a little bigger than the natural receiver's radius and 971 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: its arm extended. You just get it there. And here's 972 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: another thing. Roger never ever threw a bad pass or 973 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: Danny White either. It was always my fault if I 974 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: didn't catch it. I come back to that hull. It's 975 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: my fault. Rod, I should have had it. I should 976 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: have had Well, that's same with Mike was Yeah, that's 977 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: saint Man. Might be like my bad Trump and my 978 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: bad I got it. Yeah, and yeah, I'm kind of 979 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: mentality you have to have as that man, the man 980 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: at the break position, because you're setting the tone for 981 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 1: the rest of the receivers. I knew I was at 982 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 1: guy even't talking twenty Hill was bad. Okay, we both 983 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: went over a thousand yards and seventy nine. I was 984 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: going to the Pro Bowls and then Tony comes. Now 985 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: he's going to the Pro Bowls. But the point is 986 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: we had two Pro Bowl receivers out there and it 987 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: made us better. Yeah, and that's what that's kind of 988 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: what you want. So well, Drew, this has been awesome, man. 989 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for stopping by, Kurt, Thanks for thanks for 990 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,439 Speaker 1: bringing him by. Yeah, I'm probably gonna depart two. I'm 991 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,720 Speaker 1: walking mister Pierson out here. Let's give him his highlight. 992 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,479 Speaker 1: He missed it, Okay, all right, let's give it again. 993 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: Kare comes to Blas Roger going deep for drill down 994 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 1: the sideline twenty twenty five put ten put touchdown. That 995 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: was Cowboys, And you would not believe the spike. The 996 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: Drew person just put on that ball. You know what 997 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 1: I did? I will I think his name was, Yeah, 998 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: it was Gerald Williams, the cornerback, and I beat them 999 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: pretty bad down the sideline. But I did the windmill 1000 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 1: spike and came right to my leg. Yeah, and it 1001 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: was a bad, bad spike. Yeah that day. 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You know the big takeaway that I 1061 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,959 Speaker 1: took out of that, Kurt He is saying the same 1062 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: thing that Nate has been preaching since we started on 1063 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 1: this show, which is not to learn the route. I'm 1064 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: telling you if you this is what's so funny, is 1065 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: you remember to catch avan hopperhead gets to forty nine 1066 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: US at first you went to the Super Bowl. M hm, 1067 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:07,240 Speaker 1: this is so funny. Mike in the huddle, call the protection. 1068 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: They called it, they called the route tree and and 1069 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: Mike say, no, Alvin, I'm catching this ball. Go to 1070 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: the other side. They run to the other side and 1071 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,760 Speaker 1: slants the coverage over there. So that puts some Alvin, 1072 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: But Alvin knew Mike's route. Mike knew and they didn't 1073 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: think about it. Yea, they just did it. You got 1074 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: to be able to run all the routes, and you 1075 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: ain't got to be great at every route, but you 1076 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 1: gotta be fishing enough that you that they have confidence 1077 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: that you're gonna come and be at the right place 1078 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: at the right time. So you know, I've seen this offense, 1079 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: and I agree. You can basically run the same routes, 1080 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: but like Drew said, we're gonna run the eighty three 1081 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: route and bring him into that right there, so that 1082 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: makes the mouth of the there man a zone or 1083 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: whatever coverage they want to run. It may switch up 1084 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: just because you start at one place and went to 1085 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: another place, but you still can run that same route 1086 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 1: because you may be running against the coverage. Maybe the 1087 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: coverage may allow you to run that route. Now that 1088 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 1: now that you went into motion. Yeah, he same stuff 1089 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 1: you've been saying for a year. Yeah, hey, keep your 1090 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: base offense, keep keep that, but do some different packages. 1091 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 1: Put him in motion, run run three to one side 1092 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: and to change it up and that is where it dad. 1093 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: And see that ain't got nothing to do with to 1094 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 1: me coaching. That has and that has everything to do 1095 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 1: with the with the player. And how's knowledgeable you are? 1096 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: Because one thing I learned in this league, y'all should 1097 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: know by now. If I am the man, I'm like, oh, no, coach, 1098 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 1: we gotta do something else different here. So you challenge 1099 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: your coach and in turn it challenges you. And as 1100 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: long as you and ye with the offense, they got 1101 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: to get better. So you think the coaches are hesitant 1102 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: to do something things different because maybe the receivers aren't 1103 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: totally nominal. I'm not saying that you want cold B's 1104 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 1: the outside all the time, but Colby's all those outside routes. 1105 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: So can you getting matched up on the lineback out 1106 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: there are safety because we saw that during the playoffs 1107 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 1: where you saw guys wide receivers being matched up like 1108 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: how wide were seing line back on the wide receiver. 1109 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: You know that they're chomping at the bit. You know 1110 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback he's still trying to look away like knowing 1111 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 1: I got this same. You know what I'm saying. So 1112 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: if you, as a player can challenge the coach to 1113 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: give you something new. You know, let's do something different. 1114 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: You know, I need the ball? How do I get 1115 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: the ball? You know? Just it just just the system. Man, 1116 00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: What do you work? What were you working on with him? 1117 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 1: What's your building? We had him, We're working on some documentaries. 1118 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: We had several stories. Actually, we asked him about Tony 1119 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: Dorsett was one. UM. We asked some some stuff about 1120 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: the draft. He had some great stories about that. Um. 1121 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 1: What else. Percy Howard is a former player teammate of his. 1122 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: We asked him about and Everson Wolves, I mean those 1123 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of those four. So he's we need to do 1124 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: a documentary on him. He's he's got some great stories 1125 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: to tell. Yeah, he's not scared to tell him now. 1126 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: He does not lack for confidence. You know what's amazing 1127 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: is just about every big play and it ain't failed 1128 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: me yet when I've listened to him, just about every 1129 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: big catch he's made. He knows a guy who was 1130 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, he remembers, yeah, you know how 1131 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 1: the how the play went down. The guy's name Michael 1132 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,479 Speaker 1: like that too. Nah. I don't think Mike likely because 1133 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: all Mike thinking about it himself. You don't want to. 1134 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 1: You don't care who the guy was, just the guy 1135 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: and True definitely agreed with Vernon Lundquist that that was 1136 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: very nice. Spike, Yeah, he won't remembered it. He wanted 1137 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: to hang out in here after after he got off 1138 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 1: the air to why we were playing as highlights over 1139 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: the uh over the podcast and he was just sitting here, Go, man, 1140 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: I want to sit in here and watch these highlights. Yeah, 1141 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 1: he's great. Where can we watch these documentaries that you 1142 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: got that'll be part of our Deep Blue series? So 1143 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 1: we're working on them now. Probably the earliest had come 1144 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: out as August and then in the fall, so we're 1145 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 1: we got several on the works, so I think they're 1146 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. Awesome, you know, when you're gonna 1147 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: do one on Nate. We needed no, no, No worry 1148 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 1: about Nate. But the thing that has been we've been 1149 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: debating to night and I hate to keep hiding it 1150 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 1: is you know they you know a lot of guys 1151 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: get talked about doing all the season, getting moved around 1152 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And you know, Kurt kind of 1153 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 1: brought your name when you went into Mexico, like do 1154 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 1: we really need no no? And it runs a ship. Okay, 1155 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 1: we don't have much time. We don't have much time, 1156 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: and by next week this will be holding news. You 1157 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 1: asked me to get some, Jerry, and so I found 1158 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 1: a cut Jerry that cuts to the to the bottom line. 1159 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 1: This this is a quick cut. Okay, it's all it's 1160 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Dez and Jerry. He's asked about what's going on with 1161 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 1: des and does he want him back? And he bottom 1162 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: lines it right here and this is this was at 1163 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 1: the cop asked me as I sit here, do we 1164 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 1: want him on the team next year? The answers yes, 1165 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 1: And that's it. Wow, that's that was That was the 1166 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: bottom line. That was the bottom line. I've got a 1167 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: minute twenty cut, but we don't have him minute time. 1168 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Listened to it the whole I'm which, do you listen 1169 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: to it? Yeah? Yeah, it was. It's on Dallas Cowboys 1170 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: that you know it is? How can father uh tone? 1171 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: And and what he's saying is so different than good 1172 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: cop bad that I'm saying, Bro, It wasn't no good cop, 1173 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 1: bad cop. It was one was saying. Yeah, that's prison time. 1174 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 1: So go check that interview out. It's on Dallas Cowboys 1175 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 1: dot com. Jerry. Every year at the combine, he brings 1176 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: the media onto the Cowboys bus and holds court and 1177 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: it's what about a fifty minute interview. Yeah, there's a 1178 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 1: lot of good stuff. Yeah, there's more going on right 1179 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 1: now than you're than you think about when you hear 1180 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: all the things that they ask him. So it's well 1181 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: worth it. Yeah. About nine minutes in, I think is 1182 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: when all the death stuff is. So yeah, check it out. Well, 1183 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: we have run out of time. Kurt, thanks for showing 1184 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: up even though you were late, but it was well 1185 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 1: well worth it. Nate, thanks for bringing it. But I'm 1186 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: just naying, you know, Kurt, No, you want to When 1187 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 1: I find Nate he hangs out, which this is what 1188 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: gets me. Hangs out. Which hosted two shows, two shows 1189 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: I hosted, and you know how uh Douglas described him. 1190 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 1: I was very NPR like, I don't we need you 1191 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 1: here for the energy man? That was solid. I mean, 1192 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 1: so the content was at the speed kind of boring, right, 1193 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 1: So I didn't NPR is just a different time of day, 1194 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 1: different we're at We're right at noon. We're getting people 1195 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 1: ready to we need food, we need Shannon's Happy Yard, 1196 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 1: getting ready to hit the town. Energy. We need to 1197 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: do this show from West any Man isn't as dvs 1198 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 1: Ida Coveny, Grandmama Douglas. Thanks for doing what you do, Kent, 1199 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: thanks for pushing all the buttons. We will be back 1200 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 1: next Monday at eleven I guess yes, normal time, normal day. 1201 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back next week hanging with the Boys. 1202 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1203 01:02:33,720 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. You po