1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the forty Niners You've Got Male podcast presented 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: by Manscaped. I'm your host, Lindsay Polaris, and today we 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: have a special guest on the podcast. Joining me for 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: this episode is former forty Niners and Cal Golden Bears 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: football play by play announcer Joe Starkey. Joe, we met 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: just a few weeks ago before your retirement from a 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: storied radio career. How are you enjoying all the free 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: time on your hands? Well, you know, because of the 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: nature of the business, And it doesn't even affect me 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: at this point because since I'm only doing in college 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: games now, just to be the off season no matter what. 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: So what I'm probably concerned about is a long about 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: July and August when everybody's getting the ref up to 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: go back into action and probably say, well, what am 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 1: I gonna do it now? For God? Alright, So right 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: now it's a normal time for you to just be 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: have a little extra time on your hands. And that's 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: fine because I can watch all the games. I was 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: reading through your long list of broadcasting words, and it's 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: a lengthy one. It's a great resume, safe to say 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: you've seen some football. Can you put into words, what 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: a joy it's been to cover the sport of football 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area for basically your entire career. Yeah, 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: it is actually phenomenal to be this funny. I never 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: I never thought this would happen. I was turned out 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: as a banker working in southern California. When I left 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Chicago that was offered a job on the West coast, 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: got into recruiting for Mittel Toys, and then moved over 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: to Union Bank. And when I got to the bank 30 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: after a couple of years, I just had it in 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: the back of my head, is some more along the 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: line I'd like safe adly to run and sport gap 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: differ could work. And uh, I got some to happen 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: along the way. The California field hockey team needed a 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: broadcaster in the fall of seventy two. I had spent 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: a couple of years making tapes at the Forum in 37 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: l A and A, the Okland, Californa Marina, and I 38 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: thought they were good enough to resubmit to see if 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: I get lucky, and I sent them to Charlie Finley 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: and Eple like a w N radio and a station 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore, But somehow I got the job, and 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: a few things had to fall into place over the 43 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: years that left me on the road to being able 44 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: to broadcast the forty Niners for twenty two years. Are 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: there any similarities between banking and broadcasting? Well, maybe from 46 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: travel because I was a recruiter hit, but but that's 47 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: about it. Then they aren't in both. Uh. You know, 48 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: I guess you could say that if you're going to 49 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: be a recruiter, you also have to have some things 50 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: that people are willing to listen to and respect down 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: because you're trying to get them to join the organization. 52 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: And obviously, with you a sportscast, you want them to listen. 53 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: You want them to believe that you tell them the truth, 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: that you're dealing with intechrity and telling you things exactly 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: as they are. And I think I've always done that. 56 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: You said a few things had to fall into place 57 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: for you to eventually be a sports broadcaster for the 58 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. When you got that news that 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: you were going to get the nod to do that, 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: do you remember that feeling? Oh? Yeah, it was. You know, 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: I've been almost waiting around for an opportunity like that, because, 62 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: for example, while I was doing hockey for the Seal 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: hockey team in the seventies. Um I decided I do 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: really wanted to take a running football, and so I 65 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: started sending out resumes and I sent our resume, is 66 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: uh not an exaggeration, looking to every single NFL team 67 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: in the country and see, maybe I'll get lucky. And 68 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: I did because that in the off season between seventy 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: six and seventy seven, I got a call from the 70 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings and they asked me if I would be 71 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: interested in doing the games in Minnesota. That got one 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: of my tapes, and they was an interesting situation because 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: they told me that this is a one year higher 74 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: because they had a guy named Ray Scott too many 75 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: in the audience. I remember he was always a voice 76 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: of the Packers and he had left Green Day and 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: he's gone to Tampa to do the Tampa team in 78 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, which is quite new at that point, and 79 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: but he had a contract that said he could leave 80 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the seventy seven season and go 81 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: back to Minnesota. So very up front they said this 82 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: is a one year job. Do you want to take it? 83 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: I said, well, of course, it's the NFL it'll get 84 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: me started and give me an opportunity, And then an 85 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: opportunity paid off a big time. A few more years 86 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: later when k g O Radio, I got the rights 87 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: to the forty Niners and I was able to join 88 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: Monton Simmons and Wayne Walker as the third man on 89 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: the broadcast in um N So you were with the 90 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: forty Niners from seven to the end of that two 91 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: thousand eight season, if I'm correct, you got to see 92 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: the height of the Cowboys forty Niners rivalry. Could you 93 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: educate us on what that was like in the early nineties? 94 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: They want was absolutely incredible? In fact, you know, I'm 95 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: interesting that um if your if your association is with 96 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: the forty Niners in that rivalry, Dallas is the ultimate enemy. 97 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: You know, they cost this spark too many games. That 98 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: one story that I think is sort of the situation 99 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: several years ago, my wife and I were on coming 100 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: home from a trip to Florida and we have to 101 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: go change plane in Dallas. As we walked to the 102 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: Dallas airport, my wife looked at me, says, what's the 103 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: matter with you? It says, you You've got to look 104 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: on your face like you want to shoot somebody and 105 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: were You're probably right, because I hate everything about Dallas. 106 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: For example, the one year I did the Vikings, the 107 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: Vikings got to the NFC Title Game and lost the Dallas, 108 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: so I missed the Super Bowl there a couple of 109 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: times as the forty Niner broadcaster, we didn't get to 110 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl because of Dallas. So they have cost 111 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: me several Super Bowl opportunities. And I have no love 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: for Dallas at all on the record, absolutely no love 113 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: fring Joe starchive the Dallas Cowboys. In that twenty year 114 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: gap of not seeing the Cowboys in the playoffs, do 115 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: you think that that rivalry has kind of toned down 116 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: or not so much. I'd be surprised if uh. Well, 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: I probably depends on age too, because you've been around 118 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: as a forty Niner fan for a significant amount of time. 119 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: You know the whole history you go back to into 120 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: obviously the first classic game when Dwight Clark steals the 121 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: game without the incredible path in the nineteen anyone playoffs, 122 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: the great Paths from Joe Montana, Dwight guess to go 123 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: way up in the air to catch and starts the 124 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: nner a dynasty beginning because Dallas had owned the Niners 125 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: pretty well before that. In fact, it beating him a 126 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: couple of times in NFC championship games that kept the 127 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: Niners from getting the championship and to Super Bowls, And 128 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: so that was the catalyst that turned the rivalry into 129 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: something very special. There's an entire history of the feelings 130 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: between the team that are probably stronger than they are 131 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: in a lot of rivalries, and it surprisingly so because 132 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: they're not in the same division. When you're playing twice 133 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: every year, Joe, I have to ask, what is your 134 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: memory of last season's wild card matchup? And do you 135 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: anticipate Dallas looking for a total revenge game in this 136 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: NFC Divisional round on Sunday. Well, I think inevitably when 137 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: you're when you play a team over and over again 138 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: in a short period of time, the rivalry gets far 139 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: more kept. If they're spread out over a long period 140 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: of time, you don't know a lot about it. You're 141 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: really having a chance to build up the net is, 142 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: so to speak. I think that does make a difference. 143 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: And so I think that because of what happened last year, 144 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: the intensity the game is likely to be very, very strong. 145 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: And I know forty and n their fans above all else. 146 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: If there's anybody they want to beat in the entire NFL, 147 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: it's definitely the Cowboys. I think that rivalry because it 148 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: has been poled so many NFC championship games, it may 149 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: be a difference through so many years were one of 150 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: the other guts of the Super Bowl. I think this 151 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: is a really special relationship because last year's game was 152 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: so competitive, it was under different circumstances though took place 153 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: in Texas. This time around, it's going to be at 154 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: Levi Stadium. What type of atmosphere do you expect from 155 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: the fans here on Sunday? Well, I love the San 156 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: Francisco fans because they are They're very vocal that they're 157 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: very you know, they played straight. Uh, they're not They're 158 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: not nasty. Um. I think everybody shows a lot of class. 159 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: You know our places where rivalries get to the point 160 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: where they're just nasty and ugly and there are flights 161 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: that break out and all those kinds of things. But 162 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: I think supporting not of fans have always shown great 163 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: integrity and class in all rivalries over the years that 164 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: they've had the various teams, and I think that they'll 165 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: cure like crazy for their team and hopefully win and 166 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: hopefully nothing beyond that lappen and they will be a 167 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: happy day for our side. You obviously traveled with the 168 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: team throughout all those years. Can you to quantify how 169 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: much of a difference home field advantage really is. I 170 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: think it means a heck of a lot, because there's 171 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: an atmosphere around the home game with everybody's sharing for 172 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: your side that definitely lifts up the players. I don't 173 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: think it's a doubt about it. I think I think 174 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: it's there's nothing coincidental about the fact that in virtually 175 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: every major sports teams tend to play better at home 176 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: and they do on the road. Sometimes you can use 177 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: that coaches haven't been able to through the years, always 178 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: kind of created atmosphere around the room saying, you know, 179 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: everybody else there's gonna hate is uh, they're gonna bully 180 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: like crazy, they're gonna treat you like dirt. So you 181 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: use that as a weapon to win the game. And 182 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: I think the greatest weapon is to have the home 183 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: team crowd screaming your names and sharing for you. I 184 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: think that has a major impact and often can make 185 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: the difference in the game if it's closed, because I 186 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: think it keeps the players at a high levels. They 187 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: generate that intensity from the fans, and I think it 188 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: keeps and going even when things look like they're talk 189 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: So looking ahead specifically to this upcoming matchup on Sunday, 190 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have a number of offensive weapons Tony Pollard, 191 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott on the ground, see the lamb, and Dalton 192 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: Shultz through the air, among so many others. What challenges 193 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: does their balanced attack present for the Forts? Well, you 194 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: know right now. I think the forty nine aircast graded 195 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,479 Speaker 1: team right now that absolutely outstanding. So many different categors. 196 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: We have long we have Pro bowlers on defense, we 197 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: have Pro bowlers on often, we have great balance. I 198 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: think that we're getting great leadership from the coach. I 199 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: think that right now the team is that in many 200 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: ways out of peak because they believe in themselves, their 201 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: their quarterback has become one of the great stories in sports. 202 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: What needs accomplished so far? Uh, and the matchups I 203 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: think they're closed, but I really think, I really think 204 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: they have more talents right now. I think that the 205 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: edge and particular eight UH getting our running back from 206 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Stamford here coming mast the area has been an incredible 207 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: plus fer sampatistic. That's one of the great signings and 208 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: I think in many ways to transform the team and 209 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: make much much stronger product. I think it's no coincidence 210 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: that they are undefeated since Christian McCaffrey has been fully unleashed. Uh. 211 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: Speaking a little bit more on Dallas, Dak Prescott and 212 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: his offense coming up their best game of the year, 213 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: arguably four touchdown passes for him thrown against Tampa Bay 214 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: forty three point three passer rating. What does the forty 215 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: Niners defense have to do to make sure that Dallas 216 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: does not repeat that production again on Sunday. Well, I 217 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: do think that there is a danger there because as 218 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: good as our defense is, I think that's what we've 219 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: been burned. It's usually been by a pampaing quarterback, where 220 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: somebody who's uh, I've been able to do something in 221 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: the air that you might not expect. I think what 222 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: they're going to have to do is they're going to 223 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: have to, above all, help keep the pressure on it. 224 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: It's got to be running for life on a regular basis. 225 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: If I thinking a thinker, he's got talent and certainly 226 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: capable of a big game and showing them for quite 227 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: a while now so, but if they keep the heat 228 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: on him, I don't think that they can match out 229 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: Stride for striding scoring. Manscaped is the official below the 230 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: waste grooming partner of the forty Niners. Try manscaped and 231 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: get off and free shipping with code forty niners at 232 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: manscaped dot com. That's code forty niners off at manscaped 233 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: dot com. You touched upon brock Purdy's historic rise and 234 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: now he is undefeated in his seven appearances for San Francisco. 235 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: In all your years of broadcasting, I'm sure you've seen 236 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: unconventional stories, But how unique is the season that is 237 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: brewing here in Santa Clara. Oh? I think it's it's 238 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: a book, a movie, you know. It's the kind of 239 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: thing like the movie about that Notre Dame. What was 240 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: that years ago where they got the came off the 241 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: Benson to be the quarterback for Notre Dame and Winston game. 242 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: I think he's in that telegram and I'm very familiar 243 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: with the history of the uh the irrelevant role that 244 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: he fields as the finals draft pick, because the man 245 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: who started that program is a former forty niner. I 246 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: don't people remember that would even know that that a 247 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: former forty niner years ago and turned the irrelevant, irrelevant 248 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Bowl into something special. And he has a great party 249 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: in the off season. Form and history says that the 250 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: honors a real eye that if you're the last pick 251 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL draft, you're not likely to be on 252 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: a roster for very long. And so that what he 253 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: has accomplished is something short of stational. And yet when 254 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: you see him play it, when you started looking at 255 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: it and say, well, how did he ever get to 256 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: be last? Yet such control, he's got the discipline, he 257 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: understands the offense, he reads things well. He'd made the 258 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: mistakes as any rookie will on the thing in the 259 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: big picture, he really has an amazing graph of the 260 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: offense in a very short time. What growth have you 261 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: seen in him from his first start against Tampa Bay 262 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: in Week four team to now preparing to make his 263 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: first second playoffs start? I should say, oh, I think 264 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: what happened to any athletes and maybe maybe almost in 265 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: any profession. If you have success, success builds upon success 266 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: and you start believing in yourself. So if you're draft 267 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: as the last man in the NFL. You're probably thinking, Wow, 268 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: can I even get a job on a roster? Can 269 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: I get to the practice squad? Will I ever get 270 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity? And so he got his opportunity, and what 271 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: he's done with it is nothing short of phenomenal. Because 272 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: let's get real here, if he'd had even one bad 273 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: game out of his first two where nothing was working, 274 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: is pretty good odds that he would never move to 275 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: the position he is now. And he had to be 276 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: sharp from the beginning. He was getting his camps to 277 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: be like an understuder understudy on Broadway, a chance to 278 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: get out there and show what you can do. And 279 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: he delivered. And so now he's building with confidence every game. 280 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: And even better, he's got the confidence of all his teammates. 281 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: Everybody believes it. I'm sure that even if they saw 282 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: him practice he looked good. You got to show it, 283 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: Jimmy pal On on the field, and he's done that. 284 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: You touched upon just the dominant defense that San Francisco 285 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: has had this year they closed out the regular season. 286 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: Is the top ranked defense. Can you speak to just 287 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: top to bottom, the immense talente that is on that 288 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Well, I think again that's the 289 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: testaments to the forty Niner's front office and that uh 290 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: he said a year ago that this team with in 291 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: such a perfect situation. I think a lot of people 292 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: would have been a little technical because they they oh, yeah, 293 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: well they got some players, but they've been coming together 294 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: yet and all that. I think that they knew what 295 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: they wanted and when out and got it. They build 296 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: in the gaps where they needed to, and now it 297 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: is a complete team. I don't think there's many people 298 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: when the who covered the NFL watched the NFL, we 299 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: don't believe that the strength maybe almost better on defense, 300 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: then it is not often mutions we've gotten better on 301 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: offense and sending some guys to the Pro Bowl. I 302 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: think the defense is just sensational right now. They are. 303 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: They're as good as some of the forty Niner defenses 304 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: of the past that were the Super Bowls. Manscape is 305 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: the official below the waste grooming partner of the forty Niners. 306 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: Try manscaped and get off and free shipping with code 307 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: forty niners at manscaped dot com. That's code forty niners 308 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: off at manscaped dot com. That's actually what I wanted 309 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: to ask you, how does this ers defense compare to 310 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: some of the greats that you've seen throughout your career? 311 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Um right now, and I would say the right right 312 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: up there. I mean we've had We've got the individual 313 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: stars and superstars with great records, and several guys in 314 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I mean the Brian Young just 315 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: went in. As we know, um, the whole history of 316 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: defenses that were every bitutes important that I success the 317 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: side of the ball, and this group I think could 318 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: be in that category for a few more years. So 319 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: much to look forward to here And Joe, will you 320 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: be joining us on Sunday? I forgot to ask watching 321 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: on television injury okay, and just to close this thing out, 322 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: what's your prediction for Sunday. I don't think that they 323 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: can keep us up the scoreboard, and I don't think 324 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: they're going to get a lot of points. So I 325 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: could see something like maybe, first of all, we have 326 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: a great kicker too, so I can see forty nine 327 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: is get one point, and I can see Dalla's being 328 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: held to fourteen to seventeen. Oh we love that prediction, 329 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: all right? Well, that is the prediction for the ninth 330 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: postseason meeting between the Dallas Cowboys and forty Niners from 331 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: longtime broadcaster Joe Starkey. Joe, thank you so much for 332 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: joining me on this podcast. Thanks for tuning into the 333 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: forty Niners. 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