1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan cow Calaian. Here's 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: cal iguanas fell from the sky in Florida last week, 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: but it wasn't a sign of the apocalypse or a plague. Instead, 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: it just got a little chilly green. Iguanas aren't native 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: to South Florida, and it's legal to kill them throughout 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: the year, but controlling the population of large invasive lizards 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: is a problem, which is why wildlife managers were happy 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: to see a cold front moving in earlier this month. 10 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: As with most cold blooded critters, iguanas enter a state 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: of torpor if the temperature gets too cold. Tempts dropped 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: into the mid to low thirties during the cold snap. 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: This was enough to cold stun many of the iguanas 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: living up in the trees and bring them tumbling down 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: to Earth. Biology with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: Commission were prepared. They issued an executive order a few 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: days before that allowed Floridians to collect as many iguanas 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: as they could, stuff in a cardboard box or a 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: dog kennel, and bring them to designated drop off locations. 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: You'd normally need a permit to keep a live iguana, 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: but this executive order exempted residents from that requirement. After 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: the cold snap ended, the Commission reported that they'd received 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: five one hundred and ninety five invasive green iguanas, most 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: of which were left at the Sunrise location near Fort Lauderdale. 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: The lizards were either transferred to permit holders and sold 26 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: or euthanized. No one knows exactly how many iguanas are 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: in the Sunshine State, but I've seen estimates as high 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: as one million. Five thousand. Won't do much to curb 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: that population, but that wasn't the only reason that FWC 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: launched this campaign. Every news outlet in the country ran 31 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: coverage of the following iguanas, which helped spread the word 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: about the problem lizards, and hope fleet encourage more Floridians 33 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: to get rid of them on their own. You don't 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: need a permit or license to hunt iguanas on private property, 35 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: and I've heard it's a pretty darn good time like 36 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: slow motion squirrel hunting. Although I've never killed one, I 37 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: have eaten the kind of backstraps, tail meat, and legs. 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: I would put it right up there in a slightly 39 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: tougher dark meat chicken catfish cap of territory, kind of 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: like frog leg a little more chickeney. Very good, well 41 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: worth eating for sure. This week we've got resuscitation, black 42 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: Bear's Policy, listener Mail, Catalina, mule Deer, and so much more. 43 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: But first I'm gonna tell you about my week. And 44 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: my week finds me in Charleston, South Carolina, where we 45 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: are attending the Southeast Wildlife Expo, talking public lands and 46 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: waters with a bunch of folks, and as I tend 47 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: to do in these parts of the world, look at 48 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: a lot of old stuff. Montana is a young place 49 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: in comparison, just cruising around looking at old houses, old sidewalks, 50 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: old buildings, easily entertained. What can I say? Part of 51 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: the mission down here is tod you know, just spread 52 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: the good word of public lands and waters and wildlife 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: and drum up some support awareness for those things, backcountry 54 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: hunters and angler's role in protecting our access and our 55 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: opportunities on public lands and waters. But we'd also like 56 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: to see a new South Carolina chapter of BHA. A 57 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: few years ago the South Carolina chapter was real strong, 58 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: folks moved away and she kind of fizzled out, which 59 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: happens in the volunteer world. But there's a lot of 60 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: good work to be done in this state. Spoke with 61 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: several water keepers last night as we listened to old 62 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: Paul Puckett pluck away with his band. Guy's a great artist. 63 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: Never knew he had a pretty darn good band too. 64 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Good timelinelas night Fellas. So lots of local work in 65 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: the state. That's part of the reason to have a chapter. 66 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: Another part of the reason is that when crazy ideas 67 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: to sell off our public lands pop up, we need 68 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: every state, including South Caroline, to stand up and holler. 69 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: I sure would, as a landlocked Montana kid, holler on 70 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: South Carolina's behalf if news came down that public access 71 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: to the ocean or Francis Marion or Sumter National Forest 72 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: or the Cape Roman Wilderness was all of a sudden 73 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: going to be privatized and sold off, You darn sure 74 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: I would be calling senators and raising Holy hell on 75 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: your behalf. But it's our behalf too, because these lands 76 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: are held in trust for us the people, and we 77 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: got to make sure that folks understand they have a 78 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: rightful sense of ownership, that of course comes with the 79 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: responsibility of being a steward of those lands. Now, if 80 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: you I think those areas that I named off here 81 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: in the southeast twenty nine thousand acre Cape Roman Wilderness 82 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: for instance, is a special area, you got to keep 83 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: in mind that that is just how people feel about 84 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: the Boundary Waters Canoe Area in Minnesota or big tracks 85 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: of Bureau of Land Management land out west. They're very 86 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: special for those of us who use them and for 87 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: those that don't but happen to like clean air, water 88 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: and the benefits of biodiversity. What do you think, paulin 89 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: h crops kids, and speaking of boundary waters. By the 90 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: time you hear this, we may have a vote in 91 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: the Senate. So please use the BHA action alerts at 92 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: Backcountry Hunters dot org and call the Capitol switchboard two 93 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: two two two four three one two one. While you're 94 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: at it, do me a personal favorite and call Senator 95 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: Danes and she he here in Montana and tell them 96 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 1: to leave our wilderness study areas alone. Senator Steve Danes 97 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: has a bill he's pushing to remove the federal Wilderness 98 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: Study Area designation that covers one hundred thousand acres of 99 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: good hunting and fishing terrain in the home state. A 100 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: way to make them less good for the stuff we like, 101 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: as in hunting and fishing would be to remove that 102 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: WSA designation. Moving on to the mouth to mouth desk. 103 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: A South Texas hunter went viral on social media last 104 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: week for using CPR to save the life of a 105 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: white tail buck. The video was posted by an account 106 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: called Lone Star Outdoor Show, and the caption said the 107 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: hunter's name was Adolpho Lozano. In the video, Lozano walks 108 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: up to young buck who's managed to get his head 109 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: stuck in the square openings of a wire fence. The 110 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: problem is the deer's head is so high that its 111 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: hind legs can barely touch the ground. The deer is 112 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: still alive, but it won't last much longer. Its tongue 113 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: is hanging out the side of its mouth, and it's 114 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: wheezing and gasping as Lozano carefully lifts it up, tilts 115 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: its head so its antlers can clear the wire fence, 116 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: and lays it on the ground. He stands back and 117 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: looks at it for a few seconds, but it looks 118 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: pretty nearly dead. His mouth twitches a little, otherwise it 119 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: lies still. Lozano proceeds to perform a form of CPR 120 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: I can confidently say as not Red Cross approved. He 121 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: starts by puckering his lips and slathering on a little 122 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: lip gloss, the real shiny kind, I'm kidding. He starts 123 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: by picking up the deer's head by its antlers and 124 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: shoving its face in the ground. That not producing the 125 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: desired effect. He does ten or twelve chest compressions before 126 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: grabbing the deer's antlers and shaking its head again. He 127 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: then picks it up by his back legs, shakes it, 128 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: puts it down, and goes back to chest compression. The 129 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: deer remains unresponsive, and it's not looking good for Bambi's dad. 130 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: You can see Lozano hesitate for a minute before moving 131 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: to the final step. He grabs the deer's snout in 132 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: both hands and blows it into its nose three times. 133 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: You can see the chest rise as he pushes air 134 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: into its lungs, and the animal shutters to life. Lozano 135 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: holds its head for a few seconds, gives two more 136 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: rescue breaths for good measure, and the deer sits up, 137 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: it looks around, gets its bearings, and returns to the 138 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: land of the living. Do mouth to mouth? I don't know, 139 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: there's nowhere. Some of the commenters pointed out that Lozano's buddy, 140 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: the guy holding the camera, could have been a lot 141 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: more helpful, But you already got one person there in 142 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: harm's way. Antlers are pointy, and those deer have a 143 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: lot of power, so I don't know if I blame 144 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: the guy. It's not like you'd call nine to one one. 145 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: It's hard for the general public to understand, but hunters 146 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: do love the animals they chase, and they don't want 147 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: to see them suffer. Hats off to you there, Lozano. 148 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: Maybe someboday that deer will return the favor. Moving on 149 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: to the bare desk, I have another lightning quick update 150 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: on Florida's recent bear hunt. The Fish and Wildlife Commission 151 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: just released some additional stats, and I wanted to cover them. 152 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: The Department received applications for the hunt from fourteen thousand, 153 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: nine hundred and ninety six individuals, ninety seven percent of 154 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: whom were Florida residents. Those fifteen thousand people submitted one 155 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty three thousand, four hundred and fifty nine applications, 156 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: which means each person submitted an average of eleven. The 157 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: agency issued one hundred and seventy two permits, resulting in 158 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: a per permit success rate of only zero point one percent. 159 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: All fifty two harvested bears were killed by Florida State residents. 160 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: Forty five of the bears were harvested on private land, 161 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: while seven were harvested on public Forty nine were killed 162 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: with the rifle, two were killed with shotgun, and one 163 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: enterprising hunter killed one with a bow. The heaviest male 164 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: and female bears both came from Collier County. The boardwig 165 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: to whopping six hundred and ninety seven pounds, while the 166 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: sal weighed three hundred and forty pounds. All in all, 167 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: it sounds like a successful hunt. As we reported previously, 168 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: the animal rights crowd snatched up some of the permits, 169 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: so the true success rate was likely higher than the 170 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: reported thirty percent. But it doesn't sound like anyone in 171 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: the FWC is making noise about ending the hunt, so 172 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: I'd expect Florida to continue holding a bear hunt every 173 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: year for the foreseeable future. Chalk that up as a 174 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: win in the hunting Access and Opportunities calumn. Moving on 175 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: to the embezzlement desk, a former treasurer of a conservation 176 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: organization called Pheasants for the Future is being accused of 177 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: embezzlement after investigators say he stole one hundred and seventy 178 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: four thousand dollars from the organization. Local media reports that 179 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: fifty two year old Michael W. Johnson was charged with 180 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: misapplication of entrusted property for money he allegedly took between 181 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and twenty twenty five. In case you missed it, 182 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: I should reiterate that we're talking about a group called 183 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: Pheasants for the Future. That's Pheasants for the Future, not 184 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: Pheasants Forever. Still. Pheasants for the Future is, according to 185 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: its website, the largest sportsman's group in North Dakota. They've 186 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: been around since nineteen eighty two, working to restore and 187 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: preserve a pheasant habitat in one of the country's best 188 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: upland hunting destinations. Marcus Nelson, the group's president, said in 189 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: court documents that he spoke with Johnson when they realized 190 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: someone had been skimming off the top. Johnson allegedly admitted 191 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: to the crime, saying he had been using the funds 192 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: to pay employees at a separate business he owned at 193 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: the time. He apologized and said he'd pay the money back, 194 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: but the damage had already been done. He was removed 195 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: from the organization, and court documents indicate that Nelson and 196 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: the group's vice president approached the Minor police with theft 197 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: accusations against Johnson. He was charged with a Class A felony, 198 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: which carries a maximum possible sentence of twenty years in 199 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: prison if convicted. One hundred and seventy four large ones 200 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: isn't chump change for anyone, but especially not this group. 201 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: According to their twenty nineteen tax records, which is the 202 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: latest year available, their total assets that year only amounted 203 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: to one hundred and forty eight thousand dollars. Imagine what 204 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: that group could have done for conservation with an extra 205 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy four thousand. Moving on to the 206 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: mail bag listener, Craig from Minnesota is a bone to 207 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: pick with folks out west, but not for the reason 208 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: you might think. Here's what he has to say in 209 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: an email. When Western Public Lands were on the chopping 210 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: block this summer, I called my Senators and reps, and 211 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: I voiced my opposition. My family did, my friends did, 212 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: many other Minnesotans did. I have been on two Western 213 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: l kunts, but the lands on the chopping block were 214 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: very likely lands I would never set foot on. But 215 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: I called and I stood up for that land. I 216 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: am disappointed in Western folks because I did not see 217 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: that same battle cry and rally for these mining rights 218 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: outside the Boundary Waters Canoe area, even though the Boundary 219 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: Waters is actually the most likely to be visited by 220 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: people from all over the I also am sadden to 221 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: see how Montana Representative Ryan Zinki stood strong for public 222 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: lands when it mattered to him, but now that it 223 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: is in Minnesota, he voted yes to remove these protections 224 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: from the Boundary Waters. I hope the fight is not 225 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: over for the Boundary Waters when something comes up for 226 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: it again, as it certainly will now with the mining 227 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,359 Speaker 1: restrictions lifted. Potentially, I should say there, I expect Westerners 228 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: and people from all over to get his worked up 229 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: about this, as we did for the land that we 230 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: will likely never set foot on and is certainly not 231 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: in our backyard. Minnesota is the west of the Midwest. 232 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: We have so much public land, and it is an 233 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: absolute treasure for Minnesota. Call your western state senators and 234 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: demand they vote know on this Craig, I get the frustration, buddy, 235 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: Obviously not true that everyone out west is sitting docile 236 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: on this one. It's really interesting to know, like we 237 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: have two Chapter leaders in Arkansas, for instance, who were 238 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: former fishing guides, paddling guides in the Boundary Waters. So 239 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: there's a group in Arkansas that is advocating like hell 240 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: to stop this mineral withdrawal in the Rainy River watership. 241 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: They have a personal connection to it. And what Craig 242 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: points out, it's not in everybody's backyard. So what I 243 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: like to say is think of those backyard issues when 244 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: things like this pop up, and make that comparison for 245 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: your senator. In this case, I've been super super impressed 246 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: by and this is no surprise Randy Nuberg, Mark Kenyon, 247 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: Steven Ronella talking about boundary waters, plus tons and tons 248 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: of other folks. But Craig does have a point. All Americans, 249 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: no matter where you live or plan to hunt, should 250 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: take steps to protect our public land, wildlife habitat, even 251 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: if you'll never set foot in the boundary waters. You 252 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: should care about protecting them. I know that ongoing attacks 253 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: can feel overwhelming, but you are making a difference. If 254 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: we can win this boundary Waters fight on the heels 255 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: of last year's victory, it will send a powerful message 256 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: to our leaders in Washington. You can't threaten our most 257 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: pristine wilderness areas without hearing from hunters, anglers, and other 258 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: public land users, not just from those who will be 259 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: most impacted, but from Americans across the country. Moving on 260 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: to the Alabama desk, a few updates from Alabama this month. First, 261 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: some good news. HB one point eight one, a bill 262 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: that would significantly reduce mud dumping and Mobile Bay, has 263 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: passed the state House and Senate and has been signed 264 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: by Governor k Ivy. Some background, Mobile Bay is to 265 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: be dredged periodically to keep shipping channels deep enough for 266 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: boats to get through, but that dredging produces huge volumes 267 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: of sediment that must be disposed of. Until recently, that 268 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: dredge spoil was released back into the water of the 269 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: bay through so called thin layer replacement, a technique that 270 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: opponents dubbed mud dumping. Residents have worried that depositing that 271 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: sediment has been taken a major toll on wildlife in 272 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: the Bay. Charter Captain Patrick Garmison recalled the effects of 273 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: mud dumping in the northwestern part of the Bay starting 274 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, telling Fox News ten quote, there was 275 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: giant oyster reefs all out there that are no longer there, 276 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: and we're now fourteen years from having that happened, and 277 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: it hasn't rebounded. This state bill works hand in hand 278 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: with a recently passed federal law sponsored by US Senator 279 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: Katie Britt, which mandated that the Army Corps engineers had 280 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: to use seventy percent of the dredge spoil for Mobile 281 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: Bay for a quote unquote beneficial use think creating additional 282 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: wetlands or reversing erosion. But the law didn't specifically define 283 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: what beneficial use means, so this state law prohibits mud 284 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: dumping itself from being designated a beneficial use. A big 285 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: win for clean water down south. On the other hand, 286 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: other bill racing through the Alabama legislature is SB seven 287 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: to one, which would prohibit state agencies from establishing environmental 288 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: protections more stringent than existing federal protections when there aren't 289 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: any federal guidelines in place. Any new state rules would 290 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: have to pass much higher scientific standards than any other states, 291 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: defined as the best available science and the weight of 292 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: scientific evidence. Even if the decisions of the Alabama Department 293 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: of Environmental Management do meet those thresholds, the agency now 294 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: has to go through the rigamarole of demonstrating that every 295 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: time they make a rule. This will make it a 296 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: lot harder for the department to limit toxic chemicals from 297 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: ending up in Mobile Bay, even if there's going to 298 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: be less mud there. Unfortunately, this one has already passed 299 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: the state Senate and will go to a vote by 300 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: the House on Thursday, February twelve, which is before this 301 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: podcast comes out. But Alabama's find out how your state 302 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: reps voted on this one SB seven to one and 303 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: keep that in mind the next time you go to 304 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: the ballot box. Final note from Alabama. Last week we 305 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: covered the bill that would create a bear hunt in Mississippi. 306 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: I said that all the states surrounding Mississippi, including Alabama, 307 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: already had a bear season, but listener Dalton Adams wrote 308 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: in let me know that in fact, Alabama does not 309 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: yet have a bear season, and he linked to information 310 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: about ongoing research led by the Department of Conservation and 311 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: Natural Resources in Auburn University on black bear populations in 312 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: the state, focusing on gathering accurate population data and supporting 313 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: good habitat to establish a stable number of bears. Dalton 314 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: said he hoped that if Mississippi goes ahead with the season, 315 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: Alabama might move in the same direction. Our writer and 316 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: researcher Alex Tilney regrets the error, especially because black bears 317 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: are a favorite topic of his. Unfortunately, there are a 318 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: few seemingly trustworthy websites that wrongly assert that Alabama does 319 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: have an open hunt for bears. This is a good 320 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: reminder that these days on the Internet, you better find 321 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: trustworthy sources and stick with Big thanks to Dalton for 322 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: writing in and let's hope that Alabama's bear hunt happens 323 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: before too long. Over to the charismatic Invasive Species Desk, 324 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: brought to you by Sunny Catalina Island. Starting this fall, 325 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: professional sharpshooters will be coming to California's Catalina Island to 326 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: completely eradicate the local population of mule deer. California Fish 327 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: and Wildlife recently approved the plan put forward by the 328 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: Catalina Island Conservancy, the entity that owns eighty percent of 329 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: the state controlled island. Mule deer were brought to the 330 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: island in the nineteen twenties to establish a hunt, and 331 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: with no natural predators there, their numbers grew. The Conservancy 332 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: argues that the deer have become unsustainable and that the 333 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: eradication is necessary to protect the endangered plant species endemic 334 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: to the island. Pepe Barton, communications director for the conservancy, 335 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: told the La Times quote, when deer eating native plants, 336 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: those are being replaced by invasive a annual grasses, and 337 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: then those dry out quickly and burn easily, and then 338 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: as a burn comes through, the native plants that are 339 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: trying to grow back are eaten down again. Catalina Island 340 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: is home to some of the rarest plants in the world, 341 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: including the Catalina mahogany, which got winnowed down to just 342 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: seven surviving mature plants by two thousand and six. Unfortunately, 343 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: the Catalina mahogany doesn't look as compelling on a protest 344 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: poster as a mule deer font. But notably, this wouldn't 345 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: be the first animal eradication on the island. Feral goats 346 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: and pigs were wiped out there by two thousand and four. 347 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: The island also has a population of bison, which are 348 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: both easier to manage and much more of a tourist draw. 349 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: Even the Center for Biological Diversity, usually a stranded animal 350 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: rights group when it comes to wolves and bears, is 351 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: getting behind the eradication. Plant Conservation director Brennan Cummings said, quote, 352 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: if the unique and he replacement native species on Catalina 353 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: are to survive and ultimately recover, the single most important 354 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: thing that needs to be done is to remove the 355 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: non native deer herd from the island. It's interesting, right 356 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: because Center for Biological Diversity probably isn't thinking about this 357 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 1: in terms of predator and prey and uh, you know, 358 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: track record their predator management, you know, connect the dots there. 359 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: Although regulated hunts have taken place on the island for decades, 360 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: they haven't brought deer numbers down to a sustainable level 361 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: because I will tell you the hunt is a pain 362 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: in the butt if you do it the way they 363 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: want you to do it, and the information isn't good 364 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: to say that they've run a regulated hunt in a 365 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: way that hunters would want to do. It is just ridiculous. 366 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: But for the numbers. A thousand deer tags were available 367 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: for California residents in twenty twenty four, only three hundred 368 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: and ninety seven were taken that year, nowhere near enough 369 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: to knock back the approximately two thousand deer who live 370 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: on the island. Deer tough to hunt on Catalina, both 371 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: because much of the island is mountainous difficult terrain, and 372 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: because deer have learned to commute into the populated off 373 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: limit areas of the island during the hunting season, which 374 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: means they're urban deer, right. Fresh Water's kind of limited 375 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 1: out there. It's you know, very desert environment, really cool, 376 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: but if you're a deer that wants any sort of 377 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: green grass, you're probably moving into town. Opposition to the 378 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: measure has made some strange bedfellows. The Humane Society unsurprisingly 379 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: came out against the eradication, but so did Safari Club International, 380 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: which argued that hunting opportunities in southern California were already 381 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: rare enough without losing this mule deer herd. Although you 382 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: can expect to hear more protests before it's all over. 383 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: The California Fish and Wildlife are on board with the 384 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: eradication and an established track record of successful similar efforts, 385 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: this one looks pretty hard to turn back. If you 386 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: want even more on Catalina deer, head over to the 387 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: meat Eater dot com and check out the excellent deep 388 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: dive on the issue by our very own Eli Fournier. 389 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: That's all I got for you this week. Thank you 390 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: so much for listening. Remember to write in to ask 391 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: c Al that's ask Cal at themeatater dot com and 392 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: let me know what's going on in your neck of 393 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: the woods. You know, we appreciate it. And you know, 394 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: if you're not much of a writer, and maybe you 395 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: are listening to this in the car, came up with 396 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: something that you want to say, ask Siri to dial 397 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: four oh six two two zero six four four one. 398 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: That's four oh six two two zero six four four 399 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: one and leave us a message. And lastly, when you 400 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: hear about this state news, pay attention, especially or even 401 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: when I should say, it's not your state, because if 402 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: it can happen there, it can happen in your backyard. 403 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: Get engaged. If you're not going to represent yourself, I'll 404 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: represent you. Just buy that thirty five dollars membership to 405 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: backcountry Hunters and Anglers for me. But even then, you 406 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: may not always like how I represent you, even though 407 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: I think you will. But you know, if you're not 408 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: at the table, you're on the menu. As they say, 409 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: that's all I got for you, for reals this time. 410 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: Thanks again, talk to you next week.