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Speaker 1: and I have, I guess just the record physical record,

423
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Speaker 1: like I take it from the National Board of Review

424
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Speaker 1: Aweards honestly ten of ten. Yeah, like photos in it

425
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: and all of this stuff. Um, I was like the

426
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: physical product but also the music. Yeah. Um, what else

427
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: I have. So I had like a makeup artist, like

428
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: like pre coronavirus obviously, and she was like looking around

429
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: my apartment like do you work in movies? And I

430
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: was like yes, and like look you at like a

431
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: Succession poster on the wall and a Jackie poster. I'm like,

432
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean no, um, it was so embarrassing. But yeah,

433
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I just like movies that

434
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: are fun to talk about and also things that just

435
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: like stick in my brain. And I don't know, I

436
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: just I can't let stuff go. You like, just I

437
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: like what I like so specifically I know same. I

438
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: trust I identified with this, and I think what you

439
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: like and are is you like stunts? You like things

440
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: that are going to be that are easy polls like

441
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: I think like once lady got got turned around and

442
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: said what and he said, just want to take another

443
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: look at you? You probably felt like a sort of elation, right, yes,

444
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: oh yes, as send to a higher level of being.

445
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: It's like drama, And to me, that's what makes movies good.

446
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: And that's why I like, like if it's a little

447
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: campy or stupid, as long as it's memorable and it

448
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: made you feel something like, give me movies like that

449
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: nine times out of time. I think absolutely, absolutely yes.

450
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: But I feel like Hunter has the same ear for

451
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: phonetics the way that Matt and I think we do.

452
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: Where like Matt and I like connected over the way

453
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: people deliver lines. But Hunter wrote a whole Vulture piece

454
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: about the way Peter Peter Starsard says what do we accomplish?

455
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: In Jackie? And like that's like and it's only because

456
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: of the way he delivers that line or the way

457
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: he pronounces accomplished, right, like dig into this. Yes, So

458
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: in Jackie, it really does not make sense to me

459
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: why Peter stars Guard is there um playing Bobby Kennedy,

460
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: because it just like does not he does not like

461
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: match the energy batal department in this movie, so it

462
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: kind of feels like an odd match. Um. But he

463
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: has this scene where he's like very distraught and he

464
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: turns around and like with utter serious says, what are

465
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: we accomplished? And it's like and that's like not even

466
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: how it said. But here in my brain, it only

467
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: matters how it travels through times, does It doesn't matter

468
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: how it was said. It matters how it travels through

469
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: time and space. Yes, it's just like so just wrong,

470
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: and I can't get enough of it. I just I

471
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: love the meeting of like this very serious, very like

472
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: Oscar Baity movie. And I say that with love because

473
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: I do love this movie and the way that he

474
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: is like so obviously out of his depth, but the

475
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: way that he's like still going for it, but the

476
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: way that it just like stops your heartbeat. It's so wrong.

477
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: I love this. It's that one line that plays on

478
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: a loop in your head. Yes, and that's what leads

479
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: to the damn chain of pieces. I'm actually reading yours

480
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: on Closer right now. So can you what is the

481
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: one line Closer that plays on a loop in your head? Oh,

482
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: my gosh, there's so many and Closer because I was

483
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: active on Tumblr and yeah and it was. We can

484
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: say the reason why Closer really hits is because it's

485
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: one of the horniest movies of all time and because

486
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: everyone in it is hot, which is important. Um, and

487
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: Closer it's Oh, it's like the classic line, um, lying

488
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: is the most fun a girl can have without taking

489
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: her clothes off. She's got a ton and she makes

490
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: the most out of literally almost everything she's given, which

491
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: is like it's a very stagy like written movie. But

492
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: she does, she does give you I Don't Love You Anymore,

493
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: goodbye and Hello Stranger, and there's just a lot going

494
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: on and it's it is camp and it is sort

495
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: of like it's again it's they happen in the movie,

496
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: but they travel through time. And even the way she

497
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: says my name is Alice Airs, You're like, whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

498
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: Mike Nichols, it's sober that it's in Mike Nichols movie.

499
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: To me, it's always been like, it doesn't it doesn't

500
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: fit into the Mike Nichols like like you know, sort

501
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: of like whatever that it just doesn't. It just it

502
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like one of his things anyway. That's just

503
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: my straight observation. Everything every line in that movie is like,

504
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: so it's so pithy. It's like the hottest person you

505
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: know on their most clever day, and it's like, just

506
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: give me like a slice of that, the hottest person

507
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: you know on their most clever day. Yeah, I mean,

508
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: it's just definitely something people would say. Then we have

509
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: in Social Network. You did a piece on Social Network

510
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: which is let's gut the Frigging Nerd, which again, it's

511
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: one of those things that jumps out. I just watched

512
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: the Solcia Network the other night and I was like,

513
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: there's something about this movie, and it's like, I don't

514
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a need to be quotable, but

515
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: it's like sometimes it's like when a movie is trying

516
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: to be quotable, you have to say, oh, honey, you

517
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's every Er and Sorkin movie.

518
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: But but but this one like works because the story

519
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: is compelling and it's like it I feel like it

520
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: does speak to our generation, which is something I think

521
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: that should be sort of um noted when when something

522
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, I guess it's hard to note when something

523
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: is speaking for your generation and feels of the moment

524
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: in the moment. But it's like when you look back

525
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: at the Oscars of that year and you see that

526
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: the King's speech took best picture of that year, It's

527
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: like that movie could have been made any time, with anyone,

528
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: by anyone. It felt like Sorkin writing about Facebook in

529
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: that way. At that time, I felt like a moment

530
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: that we didn't appreciate, and so I'm willing to forgive.

531
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: It's like little little moments where it's so impressed with

532
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: itself because it should be. It like is impressive, it's good. Well,

533
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: all the Army Hammer and maximung Gelli scenes are I

534
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: don't care for and it must have been like that

535
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: it was hard to shoot around Army playing both parts

536
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: twins or whatever, and so like both of them feel

537
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: roboutic in this way. Um, but social it's soberd to

538
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: watch it now and to like hear things like friend

539
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: request or remember like like the scenes where they would

540
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: come up with these like now like the relationships, and

541
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh yeah, like someone had to come

542
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: up with that and like probably felt excited. I don't

543
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: know that's it's. I think it's someone probably a vulture

544
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: wrote about how it's like a more relevant watch now

545
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: than it was when it came out yes for our

546
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: Fighting Movie Club a couple of weeks ago. But I

547
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: think it is. I mean to Matt's earlier point. I

548
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: think it is a movie and a script where the

549
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: dialogue takes itself as seriously as the people saying it.

550
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: That makes sense, like I think perfectly matched to write

551
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: someone who is like arrogant, obnoxious and like thinks everything

552
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: they say is actually so quotable, because like they're writing

553
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: their own history as they're living it. And that's like

554
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: I think why it's it's like a prescient movie because

555
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: that's how we live now. It's like to be documented

556
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: and recorded. I also think that he is a really

557
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: I I really like his work because and this is

558
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: the way I would sort of consider Shonda Rhymes too.

559
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: It's like they get dazzle, you know what I mean,

560
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: Like this is the movies, and so we should be

561
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: entertained by the way that people speak and act and react.

562
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: And so I think that's sort of whenever anyone's like,

563
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: do people talk like this, I'm like, people don't. Aren't

564
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: in movies all the time, and so we can be like,

565
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: for example, that first scene we talked a lot when

566
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: we did our list, one of the most impactful moments

567
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: in culture history, as we've said it is Rooney Mara

568
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: and the Social Network. And it's like you would if

569
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: you were her in that movie, you would walk away

570
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: from that table five minutes conversation because it's so insane.

571
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: But I do love that the movie is like, watch

572
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: what a spectacular asshole he is, and like we're going

573
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: to write it spectacularly, So I'm into it. Oh, let's

574
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we'll come back and

575
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: ask Hunt with the question. Okay, it's time to the

576
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: question and we're back. So now let's ask Hunter Harris

577
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: the question. I'm so excited and curious to know what

578
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: the answer is. Hunter, What is the culture that made

579
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: you say culture is for me? This is the formative

580
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: culture that made you step into a cultural direction. Okay,

581
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I promise I'm not pandering, but it's

582
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Brockovich. Oh my god. Okay, let's tell you. You

583
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 1: don't know how many times I watched Aaron Brockovitch between

584
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: ages like twelve and fifteen. It might have been at

585
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: least I mean it was minimum twice a week. Wow,

586
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: I broke the DVD. I did have a portable DVD player.

587
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: Then I watched it on UM and I'm just telling you,

588
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: I saw that movie and it was like, Okay, here

589
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: we go, here we go? Now what was it? Two questions?

590
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: What was it about it that hooked you so? And

591
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: another thing is what why was that movie so available?

592
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: Didn't it feel like it was always on? Like for

593
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: some reason people are age that like, didn't we're not

594
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: the demographic for that, but we have such a sort

595
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: of vocabulary for it. My theory is, before Hunter goes,

596
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: please answer those questions, but my theory is that it

597
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: is the quintessential based on a true story movie. I

598
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: think not not like maybe not it's not the most

599
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: important or biggest one, but like to me, it feels

600
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: like it's about what this one person did and I

601
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: don't know, like came from her circumstances to do this thing,

602
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: and she's like and it's great cinema just to walk

603
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: to just just watch Julia Roberts like curse and be

604
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: that woman. That's my like, yes, a morphous theory, but Hunter, yes,

605
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: what like, what is the appeal the perennial appeal to you?

606
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: I think I think it's accommoation everything you guys just

607
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: said that it was always on TV as felt that

608
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: way for a certain amount of time, and before it

609
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: was even always on TV, it was always like at

610
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: my local Blockbuster and I would just see it and

611
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: not know what it was um And then I just

612
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I love Julie Roberts. I think she's like

613
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: even the performances of hers that I don't like, I

614
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: love Um Closer is like kind of one of them.

615
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I think that it is like

616
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: seeing an incredibly famous person in a new way and

617
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: seeing them how you always kind of suspect or hope

618
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: they active life on screen. I think that's part of it.

619
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: Um And also, like is a Steven Soderberg movie, Like

620
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: it is just so watchfol it has so much momentum,

621
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: and and she is like how everyone wants to be

622
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: Like you want to be like that, like fun and crass,

623
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: and you want to have her boobs and you want

624
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: to have her legs, and like even when I'm like,

625
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: I guess Aaron Eckhart is hot, I don't know. Honestly,

626
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: I completely forget he's even in it until he appears

627
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: on screen every single time. I'm like, so the Julia Show,

628
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: and I think, like it really is a perfect storm

629
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: because it's a Julia Roberts who was the biggest star

630
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: in the world be you heard that she was getting

631
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: incredible oscar worthy reviews, So there's that. Then you see

632
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: what it is and she is super sexed up and

633
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: she's cursing, So there's like this edge that you're curious

634
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: about that's like sort of when it goes hand in

635
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: hand with everything else, you're like, how could this not

636
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: be the moment? And then when it like fulfills itself

637
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: by being a box office success and getting the Oscars,

638
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: it like cement its moment in history. And I have

639
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: to say I am ashamed and embarrassed that it did

640
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: not make the list. Wow. Yeah, absolutely agree. I mean,

641
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: like it's I feel like that is the among the

642
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: more quotable films of that period right as well, just

643
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: so happens, I think I look nice And as long

644
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: as I have one assen city too, that's okay with you.

645
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: Those ties anyway, Never forget that's all you got, lady,

646
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: two wrong feet and ugly shoes. Dazzle me. This is

647
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You have to dazzle me. What is

648
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: the line where she's like, um oh fuck, it's like

649
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: the other lawyer and she's like, how did you get

650
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: like six D and fifty three signatures? Blow jobs? Okay, okay,

651
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: that's what he says. What makes you think you can

652
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: just walk in there and get what we need? I know,

653
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: I know you're talking about. And then she said, I

654
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: perform six sexual favors. I'm quite tired. Yes, very good,

655
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: very good. And also I mean her talk about dazzled me.

656
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: The monologue that she delivers to Aaron a cart when

657
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: he asked for her number. Oh yes, that with all

658
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: the numbers I just gave you. I'm guessing zerious times

659
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: you're going to call it. You know, Shawanda studied that

660
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: specific monologue. And also it's like such a like a

661
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: perfect match of like type of dialogue and performer like

662
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: she is. You can tell, and I love Julia, but

663
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: you can tell whether it's explicit or implicit. She can

664
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: be I'll you know, she can get what she wants

665
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: and she's Julia Roberts. She's Julia Roberts, and like I

666
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: have heard every now and then that like you know,

667
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: she can be sort of like she gets what she wants.

668
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: She is the biggest movie star in the world. And

669
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: you know you don't get that. I think by being

670
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: necessarily the nicest person in the room. But who who

671
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: needs the nice care I don't. I want someone who

672
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: can do what she does in Aaron Brockovich and she

673
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: can speak to me however she actually wants to for

674
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. I saw that movie and

675
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: it just like set my brain on fire. I was like,

676
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is China, so we all know

677
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: what is exactly. I honestly, especially now with coronavirus, I'm like,

678
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to snitch Aaron Brockovich every single day, Like

679
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: this is not how things are supposed to be run. Yes,

680
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: we all have to be Aaron brocko in this time.

681
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: I just have to. I think the most electric moment

682
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: in the movie for me is where Ed fires her

683
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: and she she storms in and she goes, what was

684
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: I supposed to do? Checking every two seconds? Yes, it's

685
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: called accountability. I'm not talking to you, bitch. It's that

686
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: scene is so perfect and that performance, Oh my god.

687
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: And Farrell put some respect on her ferrel Conchata's name

688
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: because she was also iconic two and a half men Fish, Yes,

689
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: and rest in peace, rest in piece, any rest in piece.

690
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: He's fantastic. And also, wait, we're forgetting about the miss

691
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: Wichita monologue with the flannel and the crown, which I

692
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: actually I went to school for screenwriting. I went to

693
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: school for for TV writing, and I had I had

694
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: like a minor in screenwriting. Is weird the way that

695
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: NYU dramatic writing worked Like I studied all of it.

696
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: And I had a screenwriting teacher refer to this moment

697
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: as some a really good example of when you get

698
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: sort of the motive, the underlying motivation of a character.

699
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: And she referred to moments in other screenplays as the

700
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: miss Wichita monol moment. And that comes like in the

701
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: middle of the movie. Yeah, we were watching some of

702
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: the movie and she was like, and this is miss

703
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: Wichita And I was like, you're rock incredible. I don't

704
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: know about that one. There's a lot of money we

705
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: gave to the institution. Um, but yeah, no that Um

706
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: what does she says? She says, um, are you going

707
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: to be something I have to Are you going to

708
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: be another thing I have to survive? Because I'll tell

709
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: you the truth, I don't think I'm up to it.

710
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: I think about that all the time, Like if milk

711
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: goes bad, it's like, are you gone? I'm telling you

712
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: that's when I call him, because truly, it's like it

713
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: sticks in my brain. Yeah, yeah, you should write about that.

714
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: Would it be like a like like a one line

715
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: that plays in a loop, or would it be like

716
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: a more holistic giview of it? Because you need to,

717
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: like you love this movie. It's clear I do love

718
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: this movie. How would you want to approach it? I

719
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: don't know. It might be a one line thing or

720
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: I just oh my god, I love this movie. It's

721
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: just so good. You know what's interesting to think about

722
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to Julia Roberts. I feel like, because

723
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: she was like the A list actress when we were

724
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: sort of growing up, we feel like she was always

725
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: around UM kind of her like big moment right like

726
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: after Mystic Pretty Woman, and so she became like a

727
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: huge star. But when Aaron Brockovich came out, she had

728
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: only been famous for like ten eleven years, and so

729
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: it's really interesting to think, like, this is the time

730
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: and an actress's career when they sort of coronate her,

731
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I read one time

732
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: that the mean age of the Best Actress winner is

733
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: twenty nine, which when you're younger doesn't seem like like crazy,

734
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: but then when you get hit thirty, you're like, Wow,

735
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: the moment in an actress's career year when they decide

736
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: this is the moment we're rewarding her as like roughly

737
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: ten years in when they're twenty nine they win Best Actress,

738
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: they have the moment and then there's that period afterwards.

739
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: So it's like two things with Julia. It's like understanding

740
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: that that's where she was at that moment. We just

741
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: thought she was like the A list actress, always was

742
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: always just going to be. But like the decisions that

743
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: she's had to make sense that moment on her career

744
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: when she was a not only just the box office

745
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: phenomenon of the nineties, but also she ended the nineties

746
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 1: winning an oscar and that it's been twenty years since

747
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: that happened and she has still been able to sort

748
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: of like be interesting, Like I think that her performance

749
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: in Homecoming is one of the better TV performances we've seen.

750
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: And to talk about her in August Osage County, and

751
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: you know, she's really decided to stick with developing as

752
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: an actress and not like do box office, box office,

753
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: box office, or or be behind the scenes person. But

754
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: it's interesting the way that these hands are dealt to

755
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: young women because the industry is like figure it out now,

756
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: like we're not going to help you as much. It

757
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: feels right. But it's interesting to me to think about

758
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: Julia in the past twenty years, since I'm only now

759
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: realizing that's how long it's been since Aaron Brockovich. See

760
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: that hurt when you said years, doesn't it hurt? You

761
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: could have just rounded down, not said anything at all,

762
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: But it's important to note you could have said she

763
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: got the statue in one, so it's only could. I

764
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: could have softened the blow a little bit, but I refuse.

765
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: It's Corona and I'm I'm I'm delivering hard blows. It

766
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: has been two decades since Aaron Brockovich fever. It feels

767
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: just like yesterday. The all. The other thing I want

768
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: to say about Aaron Brockovitch Is as a movie is

769
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: that it shows like the real so cal I think

770
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: where it's like, right, I feel like you're seeing like

771
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: what l A Is actually like and it's not disclamorized

772
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: version of it, but it's like the very grounded realist

773
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: like Steven Soderbergh, like here's like the way that like magic.

774
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: Mike was like, this is kind of the real Vegas

775
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: and kind of in all it's gritty glory, like you

776
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: were seeing like Irvine and I don't know, just like

777
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: or Inland Emmpie kind of California. Am I making any sense?

778
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: Was Magic? Mike and Vegas. The second one, oh no, no, no, yes, yes,

779
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: never Tampa cut that famously, Tampa, no, don't cut it

780
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: out like the real we see the real raw, And

781
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: then I meant Tampa Steven Soderberg's Tampa. Well, now my

782
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: point is completely Well he is like that that visual

783
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: style that always makes it look like it's like five

784
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: thirty you know what I mean, Yeah, you're about to

785
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: be yes, yes, you, and you've been working all day.

786
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: In every shot when she would get home, like and

787
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: those like horrible shots of like her going through her

788
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: apartment like that was like the cockroaches running around. I

789
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: so anxious and tense for her. When she gets hit

790
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: by the car. I mean that's at the end of

791
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: a workday. Yeah, that's at the end of a workday.

792
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: The filter says she's been working a bunch and also

793
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: not for nothing. But this is part of the script

794
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: that she really sells, is when the cockroach runs across

795
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: the drains and she throws the plates and she goes

796
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: who lives? Like this? When she's when she's trying to

797
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: find a new job and she's just like looking at

798
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: the newspaper and just it with her left hand. I'm like,

799
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: you go left handed? Doesn't make sense, But I just

800
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: love that line. That asshole smashed in my fucking neck, open,

801
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: open and shut when she goes um when she's commonly

802
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: giving her testimony and she goes and he came around

803
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: the corner like a bad out. And then and then

804
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: the guy is like a surgeon, spends his days saving lives.

805
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: And then he says like, oh, you have two kids

806
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: or you have three kids. She's like yeah. He's like, oh,

807
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: are their father is a father helping out? Yeah? Which one?

808
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: You know? There's two? What's your point? And also, wait,

809
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: another iconic part of the movie We Can't Forget is

810
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: iconic Mark Helgenberger performance R Jones performance R Jones. Yes,

811
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: Mark and Cherry both really deliver. I mean when when

812
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: she tells Mark there's a problem with the water and

813
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: then Mark runs out and she says, the kids girls

814
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: get the pool and out of the pool, Get out

815
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: of the pool. Yeah, what an amazing film. I might

816
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: have to watch that soon. I might have to watch.

817
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: My boyfriend has never seen it, okay, neither has mine,

818
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: and he won't watch it with me. Why I'm actually

819
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: going to make him watch it with me. And yet

820
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: you can come over. Yes, he knows that if we

821
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: watch together. I'm just gonna quote every lie. But did

822
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: that with like half of the social network? Does your

823
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: boyfriend love you? Then he should let you? Do you

824
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: live together? Now we get personal, Hunter, I have to

825
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: say something so out of pocket and maybe inappropriate. You

826
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: have such a beautiful laugh, and this is your blessing

827
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: the ears of everybody who gets to hear your laugh now, Hunter, Okay,

828
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to toot my own horn, but yes,

829
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: you have excellent laugh and I love to laugh. Say

830
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: it loud, Laugh it proud. That's actually title of say

831
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: it proud. Oh my god. So to think that, um,

832
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Brockovich, Um, the film is now twenty years old,

833
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: has shaken me to my core. But I would like

834
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: to know um in the past year or so, because

835
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: it's been like a pretty light year for movies, Like

836
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: what have you said? What has come out? Has anything

837
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: this year been like to you? Notable? Or you kind

838
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: of forcing yourself to watch television these days because the

839
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: prestige has had to move to the small screen or

840
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: or are you into Quimby? I feel like when you

841
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: said Quimby have to like say it three times, like

842
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: quippy quippy quimby, You're not like cursed it. It's hard

843
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: to just say it once. Um Okay, I don't know.

844
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: It's like it's been such a weird year because literally

845
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: nothing has come out do the Oscars. It's so weird.

846
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, they're I don't. I think it's going

847
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: to be such a weird award season that it's like

848
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: not even gonna actually end up happening. Um. I mean

849
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: the last movie I saw in theaters was never Barely

850
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: sometimes always the Eliza Hitman UM like abortion teenage like

851
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: drama said in New York City that I really loved um.

852
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: And then before that, I was like really hype off

853
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: of The Invisible Man. Yes, okay, I don't watch horror,

854
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: but I heard it lit it up. It It's like

855
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: been a minute since I was like, what were scared?

856
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: I was scared, but I was also just like so

857
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: just floored by everything that happens. I couldn't. I couldn't.

858
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean she could. She could very well be nominated

859
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: for an Oscar for that if nothing else comes out

860
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. I mean, we could

861
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: be seeing that. I think sure, I mean, maybe we'll

862
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: get um tenant in you know, a month. Where do

863
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: you stand on the tenant discourse? Okay? I I feel

864
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: like it is gross and unethical and immoral to try

865
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: to release a blockbuster movie in the middle of a

866
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: global pandemic. That's just how I feel, and I cannot

867
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: imagine anything more irresponsible. And I'm saying this to someone

868
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: who wants to see the movie also understands when, what

869
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: time we're living in? Um. But ultimately I think it

870
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: will be as satisfying as a rather Christopher Nolan movie.

871
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: And then some guy will trying to explain it to

872
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: me and I'll say, you know, it is what it is, um,

873
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: and how satisfying our Christopher Nolan movies too. You write

874
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: as you except pre explanation of front by this asshole,

875
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: whoever that person? Maybe? How are you a fan? I? Yes,

876
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: I generally am a fan. I didn't like Interstellar. I

877
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: didn't like the Prestige, but I did like Dunkirk enough,

878
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: and I liked Inception enough and um oh Insomnia. I

879
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: liked to the Pacino one. Right. I'm surprised you didn't

880
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: like Interstellar more though, because they gave you. They gave

881
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: you some dazzling, some dazzling drag in that movie. I

882
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: feel like when like when Anne Hathaway tearfully explains that

883
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: one of the one theory she has is that love

884
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: is the answer, right, And the Ellen Burson scenes at

885
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: the end are just so they really go there and

886
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: person is in a hospital on like a ring like

887
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: planet or something, or yeah, it's beautiful. It is drag.

888
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: It's dragan. You did not enjoy it as much as Dunkirk,

889
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: which I hated. I thought at least Dunkirk was like

890
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: cool to look at. Um. And also every guy in

891
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: dunker just like looked like someone I knew, So I

892
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: was like, whatever, Um, he's like the crooked teeth version

893
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: of my friends. I guess, um, you know what. I

894
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: just remember. Timothy shallow May is an Interstellar Oh yeah,

895
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: you play the Sun. He's one of the kids. Oh god,

896
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: it's so crazy to think that Timothy Shallowmy was just

897
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: recently a working actor who you could see in such

898
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: series as Homeland and did parts of Interstellar. And now

899
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: he's like the moment in the moment, where do you

900
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: stand on the Timothy Shallowmy versus Lucas hedges of it

901
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: all Oh my god, I bet you have takes. I

902
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: M a tough question. Lucas hasn't been in anything. He's

903
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: been enough to compare them. Okay, all right. The last thing,

904
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: Lucas stays out of the conversation though, you know what

905
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He does. He keeps to himself. Yeah, well

906
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: he's not He's not a capital S star. I mean,

907
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: this is our star and actress debate. Timothy Shalloming is

908
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: a star and Lucas Hedges is an an actor as Yeah,

909
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: I think that's true. I think Lucas could be a star.

910
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: He just chooses like not to be. He does have big,

911
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: working actor energy. He is so good that I think

912
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: he takes away from his own stardom because he's so

913
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: sunk into the walls of the products. Like for example,

914
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: I just watched Lady Bert again the other night, and

915
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: this scene with Lucas Hedges, like when he's auditioning with

916
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: giants in the sky, it's like you just you take

917
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: for granted that he just feels like a kid doing it,

918
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: and it's this, it's this genius performance of like that.

919
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: I think he pulls off even better than Sarsha, which

920
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: is like kid sort of trying his best to do

921
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: this but still thinking about the fact that he's auditioning.

922
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: It just feels so authentic. And then his coming out

923
00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: scene to Sercha, it hurts my chest. How good he

924
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: isn't it? It's just so good. And Timmy when he

925
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: comes into the movie is just like this swagger is

926
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: just dripping off of him, and you get immediately why

927
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 1: she would like this kid. But I think it's also

928
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: because we're seeing these people through her eyes. And when

929
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: she's talking to Lucas, she's like, he's sensitive. I love him.

930
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: We have named a Star together. And then she sees Timmy,

931
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: she's like, oh, he's like hot, we need to get

932
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: this together and really doesn't have time for me. And

933
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: it's like that sort of nagging that he does. Oh man,

934
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: he's so good at it too, He's so good. Unfortunately, unfortunately,

935
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: why do we stand well because it's like he because

936
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: I want to because I get why you said it.

937
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: But let's just examine as a trio, like what what

938
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: how do you solve a problem like Timothy, it's not

939
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: even a it's not a problem. It's not a problem.

940
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: It's not a problem. But don't think it's good to

941
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: be star so quickly. Yeah, right, yes, thank you being right.

942
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: I think I like the progression of Lucas hedges where

943
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: it's like not made for an oscar early in his career,

944
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: is super talented, but also like, isn't like on the

945
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: cover of I mean, is on the cover magazines in

946
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: the same way that like Timmy is, you know, the

947
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: fashion of it all is where it sorts like the

948
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: sort of groundbreaking fashion presence that is Timothy Shallim I

949
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm not really ready for, but I also understand that

950
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: I better get ready for it because I have understood

951
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: now that he will be around for the next I'm

952
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: gonna say forty. I think she's here to stay. Lucas

953
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: can pull off the pie fashion when he wants to,

954
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: like the g Q cover, like those those looks amazing.

955
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's very much just to like

956
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: totally reduce this down to something terrible. It's like it's

957
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: very much a Jackie Maryland dichotomy. We're working interest. I

958
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: was going to say, like like Leo, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes,

959
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: that no, that's absolutely better, yes, yes, yes yes, although

960
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: did not really compete with Leo for like the Hearts

961
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: of America. I mean, I don't think so in the

962
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: same way, but I think good while hunting definitely in gender.

963
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: This kind of like goodwill towards yes, just like wanting

964
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: to see Matt Damon just win right, very that and

965
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: Matt was coming in as like a student was like

966
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: someone who wrote this exactly. I think that's part of it, too,

967
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: academic fish, academic fish. We of course have have not

968
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: seen that Damon right. Another thing, I think that's okay,

969
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't really because they have an Academy award, yeah,

970
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: which does not we need the follow up. And also

971
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: it's like I don't know the fact that Matt Damon

972
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: has rarely ever been on that behind the camera or

973
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: like writing anything since Like to me is like, well,

974
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: did we sort of make it look like these boys

975
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: really slater at their young age than just to kind

976
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: of make them stars? Of course maybe that was part

977
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: of it, yeah, okay, Or we could say what no

978
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: one wants to say, and it's that Ben is the talent.

979
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: I think there could be something to that. There is

980
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: because the unfortunately Ben does have some talent when he

981
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: wants to employ that or when he wants to do

982
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: a Paparazzi walk with Onto Armis, which is also cinema.

983
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: Pretty much he is. I mean, Ben I have like

984
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't give it to you. Um. In terms of stardom,

985
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: we definitely have moments. One of my favorite moments in

986
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: any of his performances is him as Batman when he

987
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: goes to serve Gala Dot a drink and pours a

988
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: quadruple into a glass with just like the most lived

989
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: in thing I've ever seen, and you sort of see

990
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: in her eyes when he's pouring the drink, She's like, uh, huh, okay,

991
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: we're going for it. And it doesn't feel directed to me.

992
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: It just feels like something that just happens. Well, he

993
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: did not win for directing, did he an Oscar? No? No,

994
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't even nominated for It was a controversy the

995
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: Hollywood Foreign Prescatory War, and the Oscar said not yet.

996
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: And that's how you know that hurts. They don't have

997
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: it together when it comes to the directing nominations. I mean,

998
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: it's been said a million times about how many times

999
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: they've passed over women, but I mean the fact that

1000
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: and he's getting recanceled. It seems because because when a

1001
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: writer said something, I guess, but the fact that Mel

1002
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: Gibson was recently nominated for Best Director, like for Hacks

1003
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: Origin fifteen, I believe it was, and really it was

1004
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: more recent than Yeah. Yeah, I think it was the

1005
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: fact that we allowed that one. It's just like wow,

1006
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: that and and that not being the number one controversy

1007
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: of that moment, like is insane. The fact that they

1008
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: had but he was still round tables, he was still campaigning.

1009
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: It's like that was so recent. I mean, it blows

1010
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: my mind. People conveniently seem to forget when powerful, rich

1011
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: white men do these sorts of things, and like, yes,

1012
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: people are vocally upset about it, and like there's a

1013
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: conversation about it, but they do not seem to face repercussions.

1014
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: Because no matter what, if you're nominated for Best Director,

1015
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: which is the highest award for leadership in our industry,

1016
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: then you have not faced consequences for that. Like maybe

1017
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: he's not acting as much anymore, that's not really a

1018
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: consequence for what he has done and seems to continue

1019
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: to do, like because he's still reaping huge benefits in

1020
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: other areas. Yes, yes, this yes, berserk crazy crazy, Okay,

1021
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: I feel like we need I need to hear it

1022
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: from Hunter's ears, and I kind of tried to from

1023
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, from Hunter's mouth to my ears. Um, I know,

1024
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I sort of asked this in

1025
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: some form earlier, but like, what, like why Star is Born?

1026
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: Why why this A Star is Born? What do you

1027
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: what is it? What is it about the characters? I mean,

1028
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: Jackson made like a fixture and like the Hunter Harris

1029
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: like Twitter narrative. Um, I just I really just want

1030
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: to hear you sort of extemporate extemporaneously talk about A

1031
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: Star is Born to me and what and what's so

1032
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: perfect about it? Well, okay, I think it is. I

1033
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: honestly just liked being surprised by things, and I was

1034
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: I did not expect to like A Star is Born.

1035
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: I did not. I think I'd seen only the Judy

1036
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: Garland version before, and I was like, okay, I'd heard

1037
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: all this drama behind the scenes. I was like, I

1038
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: don't care about Bradley Cooper. I'm like, I mean, Telephone

1039
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: is the most important song to ever have been recorded,

1040
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: but I'm not a huge like little monster. And then

1041
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: I just walk into this movie five minutes and I'm

1042
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: like oh, this is not going to go well for me.

1043
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: Um it because it was so good and I was like,

1044
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: I was just so want over by how big it is,

1045
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: how loud it is, how earnest it is, which is

1046
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: like not a word I even like to leave my

1047
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: lipt um. But I was like, this is like a movie,

1048
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: Like we're watching a real movie that is like so

1049
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: carefully and intricately put together. Um and like the music

1050
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: was really good, and and then it's just like, you know,

1051
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: talking about a movie is to me the best part

1052
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Speaker 1: of it. And I could walk out of that movie

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01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: and truly just there's so many theories about like are

1054
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: they sleeping together? Do they actually hate each other? Do

1055
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,479
Speaker 1: they go to the same colorist? Is Arena Shake about

1056
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: to leave Bradley Cooper? Like all of these things? And

1057
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: then it's like they do the Oscar performance and You're like,

1058
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: this is truly the most intimate thing that I've ever seen,

1059
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: so definitively. What is your opinion on what happened with

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01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: their relationship throughout the process that was a star sports?

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01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: And where are they now? I think I think maybe

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01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: they were kissing. They were kissing, but then I think

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01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: it was just you know, intensity passion in the moment.

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01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that Dave Chappelle is in this movie,

1065
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: it's like also crazy. There's a lot that's insane about

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01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: It's like the fact that Lunelle is like one of

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01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: my favorite movie, like thank thank god, an I think

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01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: it's okay. Anthony Ramos plays the friend that for some

1069
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: reason was listening to Yonkers by tired of the creator

1070
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: just fully into the year twenty was in the movie

1071
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: Yes It's what It's what plays when Lady Gaga goes

1072
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: to his room, knocks on the door, says, what do

1073
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: I do? He's he can't have sex, and it's like,

1074
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: who was listening to younkers? Okay? Got it? Got it?

1075
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: Got it. That's a mystery that I still want to solve.

1076
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: Maybe that was Anthony bringing that in? Sure did I misinterpret?

1077
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: I feel like Anthony's character was gay? He was gay? Okay,

1078
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: he was gay? Interesting? Got it? Got it? Got It?

1079
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: I feel like what I'm talking about, and this is

1080
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: the one other movie that we could have this debate about,

1081
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: I feel years later, honestly, Yeah, and then the conversation

1082
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: will continue because it's my favorite to talk about. It's

1083
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: so much time to talk about. I mean, I can

1084
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: I can remember tweets Hunters tweets, she goes Jackson, Maine

1085
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: at the Grammys. Um, and then it's the gift. It's

1086
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: the video of the person in their car going this

1087
01:02:51,000 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: is so this, you can have so much fun with

1088
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: this movie and her turning around to say what he

1089
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: could say anything his meme. It arrived at the right

1090
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: point for me. Trailer was so good, the best of

1091
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: all time. And also not for nothing, but for the

1092
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: trailer too, not only like promise something amazing, but then

1093
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: the film delivered on that moment, that that moment that

1094
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: Ah is forever film history still. Yeah, and her performance

1095
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: is she's great, She's great. Is that as we've said before,

1096
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean fully improvised, like like unhinged, unhinged scene, unhinged dialogue.

1097
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: It could not have possibly been written. That's my theory.

1098
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts Hunter on the way that

1099
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: the movie ends? Yeah, like like in terms of that,

1100
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: I'll never of again of it all, Like, do you

1101
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: agree that the movie sort of lost its way in

1102
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: the in the second half or it does not matter

1103
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: to you? No, No, it definitely does lose it's direction,

1104
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: but it almost makes me love it more because if

1105
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: it's flaws, because it was so close to being so perfect,

1106
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: I think that I'll ever love again. It is like, uh,

1107
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, not to bring it back, but it is

1108
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: just a fake Whitney Houston song. Yes, and yeah, it's

1109
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: like that PARTA seems like a little bit too like

1110
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: Hollywood to me had its own iconography until it was

1111
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: trying to be other things for some weird rea it

1112
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: was like Shallow was so its own visual and it

1113
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: had its own visual identity until she gets and maybe

1114
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: this is a comment I doubt it, but until she

1115
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: gets just like usurped by Hollywood and gets that new manager,

1116
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: then it feels like from that point on, not only

1117
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: does she feel like not the character we've known, but

1118
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: the movie doesn't feel like the movie we've and watching.

1119
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: And if you were really gonna give him the benefit

1120
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: of the doubt, you would say this is a comment

1121
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: on how um things lose their voice and becomes sort

1122
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: of amorphous after a while when you allow like money

1123
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: to dis Yeah, right, that there's that. But also I

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01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: just think it just maybe wasn't a very good second

1125
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: half of the movie. No, after the Ali Billboard, it

1126
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: kind of loses the sense of itself. It couldn't heighten.

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01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: That is the inflection point because I don't know, Matt,

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01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: were you in the theater with me, But I remember

1129
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: seeing that and just gasping. I was just like, oh

1130
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: my god, like this movie is off the rails now,

1131
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: like this billboard is ridiculous. Well, the billboard I think

1132
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: was the last acceptable thing in the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1133
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And then because it was just like this moment,

1134
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: it's like we understand she is now like joke famous,

1135
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's like we get it. And that's

1136
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: because because that's when you knew that she did not

1137
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: have a last name, right, she does have a last name?

1138
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: Well she main no no what her maiden names? No? No?

1139
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: Um okay. One of my sources sent me an Academy

1140
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: screening Q and A where Bradley Cooper says her last

1141
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: name is Kimpana, which is one letter different than his

1142
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: mom's name. It's just the kind of Stampa is like,

1143
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: so on then believe her name. They had to take

1144
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: it away from God, she would not have been able

1145
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: to stop. I think that what the problem for me

1146
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: of the Ali billboard is that the billboard plus the

1147
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: hair the Manager, plus that scene where Jackson Maine says,

1148
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: if you don't dig deep into your fucking soul, it's

1149
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: like it's just it's also on the nose. Get it right.

1150
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: We're supposed to think that she's this, this and this. Also.

1151
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: The movie I think, very stupidly does have the attitude

1152
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: that pop music is dumb. But I think it it's not.

1153
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,959
Speaker 1: It's not the not the own. I think they should

1154
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: have struck right. But Hunter, you were gonna say, I

1155
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: was going to say that. In interviews, Bradley Cooper defended

1156
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: the pop songs and Lady Gaga didn't, and Diane Warren

1157
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: defended the songwriting. That is really fascinating. I mean, yes,

1158
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: and yes, you're right, Matt. Like Gaga, if if if

1159
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: her name had been Alan Compon, if the if the

1160
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: last name was figured into the final movie, Gaga on

1161
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: every single press stop would have been like, it's actually

1162
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: it's actually Bradley's mother's name. We changed it one letter.

1163
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you almost wish that it had been so

1164
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: that we could hear her talk about like how she

1165
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: identified even more because it was an Italian last name

1166
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: and it was actually Bradley's mother, so that was special. Um,

1167
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: but ultimately, that's the weird thing about the movie that

1168
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: I think they got really wrong is like the reason

1169
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: that Lady Gaga is such a force, and like the

1170
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: reason she hit so hard and it stayed so hard

1171
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: is because she made fun music that was from her spirit,

1172
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: made people dance and like that, it seems weird that

1173
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: she would be the one to be like and then

1174
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 1: she sells out because we know that's not making pop music,

1175
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: isn't selling out And he was so clearly what's what

1176
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: was wrong about that situation? Like he was not right

1177
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: in trying to continue to micro manage her and like

1178
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: maybe she didn't get involved with the right people. But

1179
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I said, Act two completely just

1180
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: I think it just made the wrong choices, that's all.

1181
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: And ultimately we have to look forward to the sequel.

1182
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: We have to look forward to the sequel. The three

1183
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: of us love it so much. It's one of our

1184
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: favorite movies. I think it's the only movie recreation like

1185
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: in terms of the original ones, they don't have a sequel.

1186
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: I do want to see what Ali Main does from here.

1187
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: Soph album for sure, Yeah, yeah, who do we think?

1188
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: Who do who do we think the co star is

1189
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds. I think that would be beautiful. I don't

1190
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: know why I said that. That's just the first word

1191
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: that I thought of. I love that. Your reaction to

1192
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds just an what about? Um? I don't know,

1193
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: I have to think about. Okay, Yeah, who do we honestly,

1194
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: and we put it to the readers, who would you

1195
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: like to see star in the sequel to A Star

1196
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: Is Born? That I can announced now that three of

1197
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: us are writing. Yes, Oh that's fun. We should write

1198
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: it and then do I zoom a reading? Um, so

1199
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: it is time at this time take a short break

1200
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do I don't think so honey. And

1201
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: we're back with Hunter Harris, and on this episode we're

1202
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: going to do I don't think so honey, because that's

1203
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: what we do on all episodes. We've actually taken a

1204
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: week break from I don't think so honey. Actually we're

1205
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: a two week break even. Oh yes, And so it's

1206
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: time and um, bone do you have taken this week?

1207
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: I have one? Do you? I would about to go,

1208
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: I'll go first, but but um, you know I feel

1209
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 1: that I don't think so honey, sort of like and

1210
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: given new energy because we can now be a topical

1211
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: and I can speak to something that's in the news cycle. Okay,

1212
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: that's perfect, so feeling. I love when everyone's talking about this.

1213
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: I love when you go topical and if and I

1214
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear your take on this. This is

1215
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I don't think Sony as time starts now,

1216
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. People who talk about Hamilton's

1217
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: like gets Starbucks. Hamilton's is not hamilton is not McDonald's.

1218
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: Hamilton's is not this commercial bullshit. We get it. You're

1219
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 1: a democratic socialist, you hate money. Oh that does not

1220
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: mean you need to fucking rail on Hamilton's like it's

1221
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: fucking mass media. Hamilton's was created from the souls of

1222
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: artists of color. And every time you get on there

1223
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: and you say fuck this and you say Hamilton's, what

1224
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: you're saying is you haven't seen it, because had you

1225
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: seen it, you'd be shouting in the streets. You'd be

1226
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: campaigning out there for night at least Gold's very to win.

1227
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't care what she's eligible for, whatever it is,

1228
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 1: you would be basking. You would be respecting Lynn Manuel Miranda,

1229
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: because yes, he may be a quote unquote irritating presence

1230
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: to you. But he is also a genius. And Hamilton's

1231
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: is not something that you can talk about in terms

1232
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: of like, oh, it's eating up the media narrative. It

1233
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: is a work of art. I don't think so hard

1234
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: And that's one minute, thank you, And did you feel

1235
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: this is happening a little bit? And there's this weird

1236
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 1: phenomenon where people are taking cover behind Tony Morrison hating

1237
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 1: it to be like wokeal we be like, oh so see,

1238
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: like it sucks, like I don't know it could both

1239
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: things could coexist where like, yeah, Tony Morrison hated it

1240
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: for whatever reasons she hated it, but also like it

1241
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: could be like a good musical written by you would

1242
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: never leave the theater after saying Hamilton's and say Funk

1243
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: that I didn't like that, because it's literally blood, sweat

1244
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: and tears and emotions and performed so beautifully mistaking Lee

1245
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: and it's so obviously like looking at the way you

1246
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 1: can um perform theater and trying to find new ways

1247
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: and innovations on that idea. So that for you to

1248
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: say like Funk that I didn't like that, or act

1249
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: like it's something negative for the world that's so annoying

1250
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: to me, and people talking about it like it's McDonald's

1251
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: is so crazy, like it's this to be consumed and

1252
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: not just like an artistic achievement. And I guess it's

1253
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: ultimately like says something about its artistic achievement that it's

1254
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: gotten to that point. But this isn't like some it's

1255
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: not garbage. And so if you're out there thinking it's garbage,

1256
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: like you should watch it and you can watch it

1257
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: on Disney Plus now. So but anyway, yes, no, not

1258
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 1: that I'm promoting it. It doesn't need my promotion. Like

1259
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,879
Speaker 1: maybe it's like uncool for me to say, stop attacking

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01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: this extremely popular thing. But the people that are like

1261
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: eating up the space on Twitter saying how Hamilton's n cool,

1262
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: It's like that is one of the least cool things

1263
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: you could say. I think everyone's just having a good

1264
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: time like reliving it like that. That's just been what's

1265
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: nice about it for people who have seen it, it's

1266
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: it's been nice to just like just relive it and

1267
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, like I do get to see

1268
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: it with Philippa and she's doing great. Maybe I have

1269
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: like an emotional attachment to it because when I saw

1270
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: it it was two days after Pulse, and I remember

1271
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: thinking it was like I had never felt that bad,

1272
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: Like after the Pull shooting. I was like so devastated.

1273
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: And there is like a lot in it about gun

1274
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: violence obviously, um, and so like there were there was

1275
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: the these segments of the show that I thought carried

1276
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: a little bit more weight because of what had just happened,

1277
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: and I was so emotionally raw, and it is such

1278
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: an emotional show, so it's not like um. But but

1279
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: then again, I don't feel like I'm out here defending

1280
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: it because I have an emotional attachment to it. I

1281
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: just think it's ridiculous to consider something that obviously came

1282
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: from like some like a love of something with any

1283
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: other commercial bullshit. That's like taking away from people who

1284
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: who endeavor to see it or like buy into watching it,

1285
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? For sure? For sure, Hunter,

1286
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: what is your opinion on Hamilton's I have no opinion.

1287
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: I've never seen you like, I don't give a fuck.

1288
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm along for the ride. No, I was gonna watch

1289
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: it probably this week. Actually like it? Do you like theater? Okay?

1290
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: That's that's fine, and that I actually respect that we

1291
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: actually respect that. We'll find out if I respect you

1292
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: after you're I don't think so this is okay, Yeah,

1293
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: this is um. This is going to be an extemporaneous

1294
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: one is it usually is extemporaneous. Can't wait for extemporaneous

1295
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: b and yang and his I don't think so honey

1296
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so Honey calling me kiddo

1297
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: in any sort of flirtatious capacity, it's I feel like

1298
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: it's I don't know. I mean, I'm not used. I'm

1299
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: not over here using daddy that often either, Like I'm

1300
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: not acknowledging any generational gap in my sexual parlance with people.

1301
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: So kiddo feels like the opposite of daddy. But it's

1302
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 1: sort of offensive for the same reasons. It's not offensive,

1303
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,759
Speaker 1: but I'm saying it offends me for the same reasons.

1304
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: Calling me kiddo, I think it just kills the sex

1305
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: for me. I'm like, okay, so you are going to

1306
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: fantilize me in this way that he feels a little troubling,

1307
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: and I don't really want that as part of our dynamic.

1308
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: And you're calling me kiddo. I don't know do you.

1309
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: It feels like you're in It feels like you want

1310
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, what's his face, like Lenny

1311
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: Kravitz and Hunger Games or something? Does he say that?

1312
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: I feel like he does. He might not actually say

1313
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: called Jennifer Lawrence kiddo in the movie or in the books,

1314
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: but I feel like he would, and that just makes

1315
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: me feel uneasy. I love Lenny Kravitz and Hunger Games

1316
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: and he's very sexy, but just for for someone I

1317
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: met off, you know, tender to call me kiddo, I

1318
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,879
Speaker 1: don't want it. And that's honey. Of course, Lenny Kravitz

1319
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: was never more sexy or than when he was in

1320
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: the Hunger Games. Yes, absolutely, yeah, I hadn't thought of

1321
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,560
Speaker 1: that before bowing that. It's like it's like and like

1322
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 1: I for some reason, I don't mind it when someone

1323
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: calls me the and the the handful of times someone

1324
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: has even facetiously called me daddy, I'm like, oh ha ha,

1325
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: that's funny, and like, hopefully I won't have an issue

1326
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: with it when I as I get older, but or

1327
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: as I hope to be called it as I get older,

1328
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: But to be called kiddo now at my age I

1329
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: just I don't. I don't enjoy it. I don't it

1330
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: sounds patronized. Yes, that's absolutely exactly right. I feel that

1331
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: what they're saying is like, Hey, in my initial interaction

1332
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: with you, I'm letting you know that I'm the authority

1333
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: figure in this relationship, which is which is not a

1334
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: conversation we've had prior. No, we have not laid out

1335
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: the terms of this exactly. Hunter, I think it's time

1336
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: for Hunters. I don't think so honey. Okay, Oh, and

1337
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: I feel a stirring, I feel a quickening. Okay, this

1338
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: is Hunter Harris's I don't think so honey, her time

1339
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: starts now. Okay, My I don't think so Honey is

1340
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: about Mr Joseph Gordon love It. I think so Honey not.

1341
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: I will not allow that Joseph Gordon Lovett industrial complex

1342
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: to rise again. Here's the thing. I don't think so Honey,

1343
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: because the most lonely I felt is when all of

1344
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: my friends had a crush on him after five four

1345
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: days of summer, and I knew that was a bad movie,

1346
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: and I knew he was a bad mood, and I

1347
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: knew better, but I was shy, so I just went

1348
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: along with but I'm tired of it. I don't think

1349
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: he is a very charismatic actor. I did not like

1350
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: when he hosted SNL make him Laugh. I thought that

1351
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: was very upsetting. I have not forgotten it and it

1352
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: still haunts me to this day. And I don't think so, honey,

1353
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: he's trying to have um he starting to resuscitate his

1354
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: career Hit Record Joe. I don't think so. Oh my god,

1355
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 1: and that is one minute what I don't even know

1356
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: what Hit Record Joe is. I have to come out

1357
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: of saying this is a production company. It's not exactly

1358
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: a production company. It is his I think at one

1359
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: point was a platform where you could like upload videos

1360
01:17:54,640 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: similar to you know whatever, UM like fine TikTok somebody.

1361
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: But it was like a created all of that um

1362
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: and then at some point I think he took the

1363
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: material to make it into his own thing. But now

1364
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: his his Twitter handle is still hit Record Joe, and

1365
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: he still has these like automated tweets soliciting like you know, advice, reactions, whatever,

1366
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: and it's just all so incredibly internet in a eleven

1367
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: that I just cannot Yeah, he really had a moment

1368
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: of sort of a gradual Shallowmang where he really became

1369
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: the one for a little bit, but it didn't feel

1370
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: like it came out of nowhere. He had earned it.

1371
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: He had been on Third Rock from the Sun. He

1372
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: had like done all these Inny movies, remember Brick, Like

1373
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: he had like done all this cool stuff, and then

1374
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: had that moment with five hour days of Summer, And

1375
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: I think what happened was he just started he thought

1376
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: of himself as an autour a little early. I think

1377
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 1: he branched out, fully tapped out. I feel because like

1378
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: in Dark Knight Rise, is like it was fully set

1379
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: up that, like there would be another franchise for him.

1380
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: I comptly forgot he was in that. He was like

1381
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: a Christopher Nolan favorite, remember that. And for some reason

1382
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't remember him in those movies, but I do

1383
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: remember him vividly in Don John. Like Don John to me,

1384
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: Don John was already on the decline. See I love

1385
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: Don John? Is that insane? It's worth it? I feel

1386
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: like it would hit with you because Scarlett Johansson is

1387
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: giving you a certain amount of dragon that movie too.

1388
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: I was talking to I was talking to someone and

1389
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: they just did an impression of like Joseph Gordon Lovitt

1390
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 1: in the trailer where he's like he does this crazy

1391
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 1: accent where he's just like, no can get you the

1392
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: way between me and mom porn or whatever, I don't know,

1393
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: like porn. Yeah, he's like really really he's doing He's doing,

1394
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: He's doing rod Sterling Slash me doing um the comic book,

1395
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: or Snake in the Simpsons, being like nothing with a

1396
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: dash of like Jersey Shore, the dash of Jersey Shore,

1397
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: like I feel like he yes, there's he wants to resuscitate,

1398
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: but to do it now is so interesting, and I

1399
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: feel like he just took a weird left turn and

1400
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: then it was just like producing theater for a while,

1401
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: Like I don't really know, he's not aware of that. Honestly,

1402
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: maybe he would he now because now that we remember

1403
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: he was in Blockbusters, maybe he like, after getting a

1404
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: taste of that, was like, funk this, I don't want

1405
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: to do this right now, and then wanted to sort

1406
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: of do his own thing. But they are interesting choices, Yes, yes,

1407
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: we get the choices have been interesting until you're you're

1408
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: just done with him, you don't want to see him anymore.

1409
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,560
Speaker 1: I have just never seen it for him, so I

1410
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: really there's like nowhere to go. Yeah for me. In

1411
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: regards to Mr Gordon Lovett, I like him and thought

1412
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 1: that this is my own Long Island like trauma, but

1413
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 1: I thought he was so hot and don John, I'm

1414
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: looking for my community out here, oh wow, yeah, but

1415
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: I won't find it in this zoom. For too long,

1416
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 1: long Long Islanders have not had culture that specifically caters

1417
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: to them. Shut up, Bowen, that's what what I'm rude. No,

1418
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: it's the truth. Well, wow, what an episode this has been.

1419
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: I can't think of a better person to kick off

1420
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: our our post two episodes stretch you sort of become.

1421
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 1: This is really the beginning of our new era, which

1422
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 1: is we do It's like our BC is like before

1423
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: the List and after the List we do B L

1424
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: and A L. So this is like year one, A

1425
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: L and yes. And actually I think this is the

1426
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 1: birth of a segment that Matt and I had kind

1427
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: of talked about before. We might do a new thing

1428
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: where we talk about a thing that should have made

1429
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: the list and is in some ways even better than

1430
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: any thing on the list. And I think the first

1431
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: inductee onto that list is Aaron Brockovich. I think so

1432
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: I mean I have to say thank you so much.

1433
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,839
Speaker 1: This is if this is the beginning of a precedent

1434
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 1: where everyone that comes on the show says their culture

1435
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 1: that made them say culture was for them, and then

1436
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: we immediately decide if that's worth putting into the culture list.

1437
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: I love that for us because it gives us an authority. Amazing, Well, Hunter,

1438
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Where can where can they follow you?

1439
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: On damn Twitter? Um? I tweet at Hunter why Harris

1440
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 1: and you should be following? In fact, I think we

1441
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: made a rule of culture a while back, like if

1442
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: you're glowing Hunter Harris, then you don't get it. You

1443
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: don't get it. Also, um, Hunter, your skincare I'm sorry

1444
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: this is another un key thing to say, but your

1445
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: skin care routine? Um? Was it on the cut or

1446
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 1: was it on Strategist? On the cut? And then you

1447
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: hit it into the glass future as well? I mean,

1448
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: skinker queen, Hunter Harris, please check out the routine. I

1449
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: just ordered an ice face mask. Great. Oh I love

1450
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: this really so so do they work? Um? I mean

1451
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: I think they're very soothing. I can actually help with

1452
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: your skin. Oh really? Okay, So I'm looking for like

1453
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: a deep puffer. Get a jade roller, You get a

1454
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: jade roller. Is the jade roller just kind of like

1455
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 1: it's it's lymphatic maybe, but it's if you put it

1456
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: in your freezer and you whip it out morning and

1457
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: night and the cold just sort of like deep puffs

1458
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: and it feels nice. It feels like a nice step

1459
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,560
Speaker 1: of like, alright, I'm gonna try I'm gonna have a

1460
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: cold face for the next several weeks. Okay, we thank you,

1461
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: We thank you. Okay at Hunter My Harris on Twitter,

1462
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Hunter. We always close each episode

1463
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 1: with the song maybe It's time, Oh my god the words?

1464
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Whenever you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Stars Born soundtrack and like the Jackson Man's comes on,

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Speaker 1: you're like this and then you go, oh and everything's

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Speaker 1: better bye or bye