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Speaker 1: radio right, let's get some draft going, and the great
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Speaker 1: what else I can say after all that, let's go.
Speaker 1: So we're all here and we are all ready to
Speaker 1: draft them up. We're gonna get a lot of Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns and a lot of Indianapolis Colts action here pretty
Speaker 1: soon as the Cowboys are sitting at number fifty right now.
Speaker 1: We got a bunch of picks before we get there,
Speaker 1: and a lot of different ways we can go to
Speaker 1: start this off. We can set up our best available players,
Speaker 1: we can talk about the Dallas Cowboy needs. A lot
Speaker 1: of different ways we can do this. Brian brought us
Speaker 1: step one. What are you thinking? Yeah, I'm thinking right
Speaker 1: now if you're I'm just as you said. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at my best available players as we close this up
Speaker 1: last night, Harold Landry, I'm looking at my top fifty
Speaker 1: Harold Landry, the defensive end from Boston College. As we
Speaker 1: go around, I'll get into a little bit about what
Speaker 1: scouts around the league or thinking about Harold Landry. I
Speaker 1: do have some thoughts there about that. I then think
Speaker 1: about James Daniels, the center from Iowa. Another guy I
Speaker 1: asked scouts about have some ideas about him as well,
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, Connor Wayams sound like I got a pretty
Speaker 1: good offensive line here that I'm working on, and then
Speaker 1: Courtland Sudden that would probably round out my top five
Speaker 1: guys that would be available. We just spoiler right now,
Speaker 1: and Will Hernandez is going in the second pick in
Speaker 1: the second round, right, I just go ahead and pencil
Speaker 1: that one. Giants. Yeah, I mean spoiler, it's got it
Speaker 1: happens a nice pick. Yeah. The tough part is that
Speaker 1: I think as all of us are looking at our
Speaker 1: boards and some of our favorite players, you're naming them
Speaker 1: James Daniels, Will Hernandez, Connor, Williams. Wait a minute, there's
Speaker 1: three of them. Yeah, we're not that far away from picking.
Speaker 1: They might go real fast. Let me ask you this though,
Speaker 1: if you're the Giants and your Dave Gentleman, when you
Speaker 1: looked at your board and you see her Nandez there
Speaker 1: right now. I know he drafted Barkley. We all like Barkley,
Speaker 1: But what if he drafted Quentin Nelson and then you
Speaker 1: got Hernandez sitting there, and then you went and got
Speaker 1: Nate Solder in in free agency. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: that offensive line looks pretty good. Done it? You just
Speaker 1: don't have a running back to run behind them. Well no,
Speaker 1: but there's plenty of running backs. I think that we're
Speaker 1: gonna get some running backs in this Drake could take
Speaker 1: one in the third round. Carry on, Hey, how about
Speaker 1: geis something like that? The great Ronald or here? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Act gotta get him here. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, Okay, you're right, But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there, there's sure. Yeah, No, you're right.
Speaker 1: We we We've talked about the Giants a bunch and
Speaker 1: that offensive line seems to be to be. You want
Speaker 1: to help Eli Manning get that offensive line good again,
Speaker 1: you know. Oh but nobody wanted to talk about this
Speaker 1: last night, though everybody was all on board the sacred No,
Speaker 1: we didn't want them to fix the offensive line. No, no,
Speaker 1: we did. Well, I'm just I'm just throwing it out
Speaker 1: there as a as something. If you know, you're Dave
Speaker 1: Gettleman and you see your team having issues, you know
Speaker 1: there you go. So all right. So for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Kevin Turner, Jason Witten is or isn't still an active
Speaker 1: football player. How much is your mind changing on what
Speaker 1: you're looking at for the Cowboys tonight? I believe we're
Speaker 1: giving him the weekend to think about it. Right. It's
Speaker 1: a great timing because there's nothing going on this weekend.
Speaker 1: You know. For me, I don't really want to go
Speaker 1: tight end with one of my three premium picks. And
Speaker 1: if that's controversial, I'd like to apologize. But for me
Speaker 1: at fifteen and eighty one, maybe if Goddard was there,
Speaker 1: it's just to me, they're so tightly grouped together. There's
Speaker 1: not one that really jumps out and separates himself from
Speaker 1: the pack. To me, personally, and for what this offense
Speaker 1: does they asked, they're tied into block quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Let's let's move away from that. Let's let's evolve as
Speaker 1: an offense and move away from that. Let me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask Dave this, if Jason Witten's not here, and
Speaker 1: if you're not using a premiere pick on a tight end,
Speaker 1: are we going to see a schematic change from the
Speaker 1: Della Cowboys because Jeff Swam and Rico Gathers and Blake Jarwin,
Speaker 1: are we are we gonna lean twelve personnel. Still i'd
Speaker 1: be interested to see because and I brought this up
Speaker 1: earlier today too, is it makes me think about the
Speaker 1: Ryan Switzer pick because how much did we talk about
Speaker 1: like ten personnel, Yeah, and two slot receivers Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: and Ryan Switzer. You didn't see a whole lot of
Speaker 1: that last year because Jason Witten is not a guy
Speaker 1: that ever take leaves the field. But if he is
Speaker 1: in fact not on this team, I don't necessarily think
Speaker 1: it changes what they do with their tight ends. I
Speaker 1: think when they use a tight end, they they'll do
Speaker 1: it the same way, and they can even use two
Speaker 1: tight end sets because there will be enough guys here
Speaker 1: to do that at some point. But maybe they're willing
Speaker 1: to not have a tight end more often than they
Speaker 1: have been. I don't. That's just something that comes to
Speaker 1: mind for me. Dane Brugler, your best tight ends available
Speaker 1: and where you would pick them for the Cowboys. My
Speaker 1: top tight end is available. That's Dallas Goddard, who was
Speaker 1: named after the Dallas Cowboys. Ironically, he's a thirty fourth
Speaker 1: overall player, so I think that we're gonna see him
Speaker 1: off the board pretty quickly. I think his floor is
Speaker 1: the Dolphins at forty one. If you want to get
Speaker 1: Dallas Gardard, you have to or forty two. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: you need to get above the Dolphins at forty two.
Speaker 1: That's your two end, your three, right, Yeah, up to
Speaker 1: forty two unless you're given up like what three fours,
Speaker 1: maybe two fours this year on a four next year.
Speaker 1: You know, that's probably going what it's gonna take to
Speaker 1: get up in front of Miami. And it's that's even
Speaker 1: if Godard lasts at that point. After that, then we
Speaker 1: have Gisecki, and Gisecki's would be a totally different type
Speaker 1: of tight end for this group. You know what, the
Speaker 1: run game is such a big part of what they do.
Speaker 1: Gasecki's not your traditional inline guy who's going to help
Speaker 1: you in the run game. He's more your mismatch weapon
Speaker 1: through the air. So Gisecki, I mean, you don't want
Speaker 1: to rule him out, but he would just be a
Speaker 1: different type of tight end for this group. And then
Speaker 1: if they wait till the third round, that's when you
Speaker 1: start talking about you and Thomas. You're Mark Andrews that group.
Speaker 1: Can we go back to Kat's point though, which is
Speaker 1: that I don't know y'all tell me, And I mean
Speaker 1: we talked about this this morning when the Witten news
Speaker 1: was first hitting the airwaves. Does this change how you
Speaker 1: feel about that? You mean, you try and pull the
Speaker 1: trigger on a tight end right now tonight? You have
Speaker 1: to be more open to it. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think you make a decision in terms of, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to come up with a tight end tonight.
Speaker 1: But if Goddard starts to slip a little bit, if
Speaker 1: you're in the third round and you really like Ian
Speaker 1: Thomas like I do, you know, I think you need
Speaker 1: to absolutely consider it, especially if you get wiped out
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Anthony Miller, these guys are off
Speaker 1: the board or you know. I think it's something that
Speaker 1: you are at least a lot more open to now.
Speaker 1: I've talked to several people who have told me that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were doing extra homework throughout the day today
Speaker 1: on these tight ends, making calls, just doing a lot
Speaker 1: of extra homework, making sure because they it's not like
Speaker 1: they didn't do any work on the tight ends. They
Speaker 1: have a board, yeah exactly, They've put grades in all
Speaker 1: these guys. But now, I mean, I don't blame them
Speaker 1: for not considering a tight end in top three rounds.
Speaker 1: I understand that completely, But now things are different, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a tight ends a lot more
Speaker 1: of a postile. Does this throw a wrench? Though? In
Speaker 1: the Courtland Sutton talk trying to go I mean, Dane,
Speaker 1: I wrote about this. I think you've got to find
Speaker 1: a way the Courtland Sutton, we kind of had the
Speaker 1: Colts earmarked at thirty six thirty seven. Dane came on
Speaker 1: earlier day says, now, I'll think about more. At forty one.
Speaker 1: Forty one's a pick. We can maybe grab the tight end.
Speaker 1: If you want to go up. Forty one should also
Speaker 1: be the spot. It looks like to me the Raiders
Speaker 1: are in business to trade. They're okay, yeah, call us up.
Speaker 1: They're not going to take value for their pick. They
Speaker 1: should have took a two and five last night. They didn't.
Speaker 1: It took a three and o five. They're moving around,
Speaker 1: so take advantage of that. If teams are going to
Speaker 1: value the pick as much, go up and see if
Speaker 1: the Raiders will play with you at forty one. But
Speaker 1: does it? In my mind, I'm asking you guys too,
Speaker 1: does this throw a wrench? And them going and saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton has been their guy all along. I think
Speaker 1: the biggest challenge right now is when you potentially pile
Speaker 1: in tight end. There's such a big need, and we're
Speaker 1: talking about guys like Courtland Sutton, We're talking about Dallas Goddard,
Speaker 1: We're talking about guys you would have to go get
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases. That means you're two and
Speaker 1: you're three for this pick right now. Whichever one it is.
Speaker 1: Let's say it's Courtland Sutton. Great, you got your receiver.
Speaker 1: Jerry was talking about, you need next. Sweet, you feel
Speaker 1: good about the player you got. They're awesome. Still needed
Speaker 1: a tight end, Still want to left guard, still want
Speaker 1: there's still there's so many things they want. And I
Speaker 1: feel like outside of Day two, we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: Day three and there's gonna be names on the board
Speaker 1: that we like. We've seen it the last two years.
Speaker 1: Sure celebrations on Anthony Brown and Xavier Woods. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: guys that NFL teams are gonna bank on to contribute
Speaker 1: their Day one and Day two. So if you're gonna
Speaker 1: use both your Day two picks for one player on
Speaker 1: a team with this many needs, that's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot tougher. Now. I don't think anything's different. I mean
Speaker 1: that logic is right. It is gonna be hard to
Speaker 1: address all your needs. But I think if the opportunity
Speaker 1: presents itself, I think they'll still do it. Receiver, Yeah, end,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I'm not saying it's impossible, but
Speaker 1: I don't. Necessarily. I think they like Courton Sutton. So
Speaker 1: but my point that they it's blinding him on the
Speaker 1: tight end and at eighty one they could think, well,
Speaker 1: let's just grab a tight in. I'm not gonna have
Speaker 1: any Well, yeah, question you have to jump. The big
Speaker 1: question is how much do they like Courtland Sutton? Because
Speaker 1: I agree with you, I think he's their top receiver
Speaker 1: entering today on the board. Yeah, but the question is
Speaker 1: how much is there a gap between Sutton and then
Speaker 1: Chark and Miller and the rest of these guys. Do
Speaker 1: they like Sutton enough where they want to go up
Speaker 1: and get him or they content staying at fifty and
Speaker 1: taking one of the wide receivers there if Chark falls
Speaker 1: to them, or even taking a different player waiting to
Speaker 1: the third round for James Washington or a gallop or
Speaker 1: one of those guys. But see, and I hear what
Speaker 1: you're saying, But and I feel like you saw this
Speaker 1: play out last night with their basic lack of interest
Speaker 1: in trying to get anybody other than Layton vander esh
Speaker 1: to us. To us, it's like, well, you could have Miller,
Speaker 1: you could have Sutton, you could have Chark, and to them,
Speaker 1: it could be it's Sutton or nobody. And we saw
Speaker 1: that the last time they did this was for DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 1: That I mean, they gave up two big time picks
Speaker 1: because they thought he was the only guy that really
Speaker 1: fit the criteria for what they wanted. So how you
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised rankman the order, how you would take it, Thomas,
Speaker 1: Goddard or Sutton, Goddard, Sutton, Thomas, I agree, Goddard, Sutton,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Thomas is definitely third for me. Goddard or
Speaker 1: Sutton Goddard. I'm putting Sutton one just and I don't
Speaker 1: even like Sutton that much, but I just I'll worry
Speaker 1: about tight end later. In all honesty, I went, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think wide receivers easier to worry about later. But
Speaker 1: to the point of the roof, what did his team
Speaker 1: worry about Why did his team worry about tight end?
Speaker 1: Why did it take somebody had? Yeah, but see, I
Speaker 1: had no idea my argument, and I think you're right.
Speaker 1: But shouldn't they been prepared for guy's been playing the
Speaker 1: league for fifteen years? Well, every time they traded. Shouldn't
Speaker 1: been a guy. Shouldn't Dallas Goddard have been a guy
Speaker 1: that they've talked about? They were a tight end, burned out,
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh no, there's no I think Joe
Speaker 1: and flower Mount's tight end burn out right now, right,
Speaker 1: And so that's sure. I think that's why this team
Speaker 1: is But follow me, follow me here. I guess this
Speaker 1: is the point they wanted to get rid of this
Speaker 1: tight end. This is the point I'm trying to make. Whoa,
Speaker 1: whoa wait, whoa what are we gonna do? You want
Speaker 1: to run about of town now that he's going out
Speaker 1: of Yeah. I don't know if it's necessarily true, but no,
Speaker 1: excuse me. I don't know if it's right. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they will be right, but I think there's
Speaker 1: some truth to the fact that they like the young
Speaker 1: guys they have here, and so even if they're surprised
Speaker 1: at not having Jason Witten on this team if he
Speaker 1: does retire, because, like Kevin said, he's gonna think about
Speaker 1: it apparently. But even if they're surprised, I don't know
Speaker 1: that they're panicking. And I mean, okay, maybe they're doing
Speaker 1: homework on tight ends, but I would be I would
Speaker 1: be fairly surprised to see them do something drastic to
Speaker 1: get a tight end. I agree with you. I think
Speaker 1: that you could look for a tight end on Day
Speaker 1: three in the fourth round. Dalton Schultz the two best
Speaker 1: blocking tight ends in this draft Dislee and Izo, so
Speaker 1: they could go that direction if they wanted to do that.
Speaker 1: So they have a lot of options, not just tonight.
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Speaker 1: It is time for the second round of the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft and the Cleveland Browns. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Are on the clock? Should we on the clock? The
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns should be on the clock at this point.
Speaker 1: I think so. The Dallas Cowboys are gonna pick number fifty,
Speaker 1: but we gotta start with Cleveland because they're the ones
Speaker 1: who get to pick a player now, and they're off
Speaker 1: to a good start. Sashi Brown left them with a
Speaker 1: lot of picks before they showed him the door. Two
Speaker 1: picks already today Baker Mayfield or yesterday Baker Mayfield number
Speaker 1: one overall, and Denzel Ward, the cornerback out of Ohio
Speaker 1: State at number four overall. A little bit of a
Speaker 1: surprise with Bradley Chub on the board, But when you're
Speaker 1: owing sixteen, they still have needs. Dane. If you're the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, start us off on what you're looking at.
Speaker 1: I think you could go in a lot of different directions.
Speaker 1: They have three picks tonight, two here coming up. I'd
Speaker 1: be shocked if they don't take a defensive lineman with
Speaker 1: one of them. They got their corner in the first,
Speaker 1: so they could go pass rusher interior defensive line. They
Speaker 1: need help on offense running back, could use a receiver,
Speaker 1: and then on the offensive line, Joe Thomas has gone retired,
Speaker 1: so they need more tackle help. They have death all over,
Speaker 1: they really do. It's almost like they didn't win any
Speaker 1: games last year. Maybe you could say that. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: And especially with a new general manager, he wants his guys,
Speaker 1: and so even when if a position looks like it
Speaker 1: could be a strength on this team, it's it might
Speaker 1: not be because John Dorsey wants to bring in his guy.
Speaker 1: So really everything's on the table. And with thirty three
Speaker 1: thirty five, they're getting a lot of action with this
Speaker 1: these picks, they're getting a lot of calls. A lot
Speaker 1: of teams looking to move up. Could be for Harold Landry,
Speaker 1: could be for one of these running backs. So it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked if the Browns end up dealing thirty
Speaker 1: three or thirty five. Here Now for a team that
Speaker 1: brought in Carlos Hide, Duke Johnson is to change a
Speaker 1: pace back. We do have a lot of good backs available.
Speaker 1: Does Carlos Hide stop you from picking one of these backs,
Speaker 1: whether it's Darius Guys, Ronald Jones, Chubb from Georgia, any
Speaker 1: of those. No, it should And Duke Johnson's in a
Speaker 1: contract year, so there's no guarantee they'll be able to
Speaker 1: put the great extensions. Sorry, yeah, of course, but they're
Speaker 1: working on an extension. Who knows if it'll get done.
Speaker 1: So you know, the running backs possibility, Nick Chubb's on
Speaker 1: the board. I think that's that's an option. I keep
Speaker 1: going back to pass Rusher passed on Bradley Chubb in
Speaker 1: the first round, Josh sweat Here, Lorenzo Carter, Sam Hubbard,
Speaker 1: those are all possibilities. But Brian, Yeah, I forgot my
Speaker 1: question for Brian some Dave, what's up? No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I was just I'm feeling that the shock of last night,
Speaker 1: was it not Harold Landry? Yeah, let me if I
Speaker 1: can expand on that. I talked to several scouts around
Speaker 1: the league about that, and the one underlying thing is
Speaker 1: the Commissioner's making his way to the podium to open
Speaker 1: this campaign. But I was told not a glass eater.
Speaker 1: That was a big, big thing about Landry. They they
Speaker 1: felt like that the things that happened to him, that
Speaker 1: the tape wasn't as good, there were reasons he didn't
Speaker 1: play as hard. They felt like he quit on his teammates,
Speaker 1: and so that was a little bit of a guy
Speaker 1: a little bit of a question about him again, a
Speaker 1: couple of guys said, not a glass, Heather, looks that
Speaker 1: the commissioner is gonna give us a few words here
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Speaker 1: Two things. One Aeneas Williams very millennialish there he was
Speaker 1: going with the phone camera video and trying to get
Speaker 1: the crowd hype. And two Bob Lily, for his age,
Speaker 1: looks good. He's the only guy that doesn't look like
Speaker 1: he's lost a couple inches of height. You know, you
Speaker 1: start to stoop a little bit in the age, but
Speaker 1: Bob Lily is straight up and down. He sure did.
Speaker 1: He looked great up there. And I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: Denis was, Hey, if you had a Hall of Fame jacket,
Speaker 1: would you kind of wear it every day? Yeah? Would
Speaker 1: like grocery store that kind of hanging out masters guys
Speaker 1: would too, Patrick reed, I would have worn it too.
Speaker 1: Back to Cleveland, Browns is one of the best available players.
Speaker 1: Because Harold Landry, the concerns have got to be fairly
Speaker 1: big because when you talk about pass rush in the NFL,
Speaker 1: it's king. Yeah, but Marcus Davenport had somebody give up
Speaker 1: multiple first rounders for him. And Harold Harold Landry is
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. Is very good for him to still
Speaker 1: be on the board. They're serious, it is. And and
Speaker 1: like I've talked about, they really worry about what he
Speaker 1: did with his teammates there at the end. That was
Speaker 1: several scouts said that. And and the fact is how
Speaker 1: much does he really love football? You know? And that's
Speaker 1: and that was another question there. They said, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was banged up, but you know where was the production? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had productions sixteen, no production seventeen. I asked about
Speaker 1: the injury. They're like, nah, guy just you know, guy
Speaker 1: just didn't play as well. So you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: we all understand we don't get to have the interviews
Speaker 1: and stuff. But it was it was to a man
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, hey, this guy is is the
Speaker 1: word glass eater? Was? You know? Was I mean tough
Speaker 1: guy and all that, and you know, Dane even talked
Speaker 1: about we did we broke down the player yesterday. It
Speaker 1: was more about okay, doesn't you know, doesn't take on
Speaker 1: blocks well, gets washed out, maybe maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: lack of toughness. Stare playing versus the run. Yeah, he'll
Speaker 1: give up the edge and if you can run right
Speaker 1: at him, and so I think that's he's a liability.
Speaker 1: And if you're a really good pass rusher, you know,
Speaker 1: you can live with it. But if you're just a
Speaker 1: complete liability versus run, which I think he is a
Speaker 1: lot of the times, that really worries you. You factor
Speaker 1: in what you were talking about from scouts, and you know,
Speaker 1: not a huge shock that he's not off the board.
Speaker 1: But again, if he can give you pass rush value, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna last very long tonight. Sure,
Speaker 1: I'll take him. We'll figure out the runs. No, and again, hey,
Speaker 1: we all serve him a meala glass and we'll get it.
Speaker 1: Trying to put quarterbacks on the ground. But the thing is,
Speaker 1: though we you know, we watched the tape. We see
Speaker 1: the tape. We try and to evaluate the best we
Speaker 1: can go back, look at sixteen, look at something. This
Speaker 1: are the things that scouts know about these players that
Speaker 1: we don't know. You know, but you know, you try
Speaker 1: and figure things out and to the best, you know,
Speaker 1: we have an idea what's wrong with Hurst? The defensive
Speaker 1: tackle from from Michigan. And this is one thing I
Speaker 1: felt like that throughout the night, we were surprised every
Speaker 1: draft has that one guy. We are surprised why he's
Speaker 1: still there. And and you know, talking to some people,
Speaker 1: I gave you the reasons why I think scouts think
Speaker 1: he's that one now. And Maurice Hurst, who you just mentioned,
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle from the University of Michigan. To me,
Speaker 1: he was the best interior disruptive force in this draft class. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's still hanging around. So the best undertackle in this draft.
Speaker 1: What can you give us on the reason? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's the fattening of the heart, is what it is.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, and this is something that if it's corrected,
Speaker 1: his career is over. He's played with this. So he
Speaker 1: has to you know, you have to determine, you know.
Speaker 1: And there's Dane and I have kind of run this down.
Speaker 1: There's several teams that do have him off the board.
Speaker 1: But there's some teams that are willing, okay to say
Speaker 1: where would you take him? You know, and this is
Speaker 1: they but they know the condition and uh, we'll see
Speaker 1: how it all plays out. But as you said, Jeff,
Speaker 1: this is a hell of a football player. He's a
Speaker 1: very disruptive player. You throw on the tape, it's not hard.
Speaker 1: Where is he? Oh? There he is? First play? You
Speaker 1: know where he is? Those types of guys you like,
Speaker 1: It's just so unfortunate because his name would have been
Speaker 1: called by Now where would you take him? I've always
Speaker 1: had this, I've always had this thought about the fourth
Speaker 1: round being like that. But I think you have to
Speaker 1: maybe hit this guy a little bit early. I you know,
Speaker 1: what if even still if he okay, the bigger question
Speaker 1: do you think scouts have a bigger question about his
Speaker 1: heart or Griffin's hand? Here Hurst's heart. And that's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say is, yeah, this isn't Shaq Griffin
Speaker 1: or Jalen Smith where you're like, well, but scouts might
Speaker 1: concerned about a one handed guy. But he's played at Michigan.
Speaker 1: What I mean. I know, I know he's played at Michigan.
Speaker 1: But like, and if I'm understanding the issue correctly, he
Speaker 1: could die. Yeah, he could die. He just had to
Speaker 1: trust your medical stuff. Yeah, you know, so it sounds
Speaker 1: like one of those things if you just let him
Speaker 1: play like he did at Michigan. It could go and
Speaker 1: it could be absolutely fine if he opts to get
Speaker 1: whatever is best. Jeremiah Trotter, Jeremiah Trotter that we drafted
Speaker 1: him in Green XU me in Philadelphia nineteen ninety. I
Speaker 1: know it's back in the day, but that's my experience.
Speaker 1: We drafted Trotter. I had a doctor tell me, Brian,
Speaker 1: he's got a knee. I don't know if he's gonna
Speaker 1: play ten games or ten years. He played ten years.
Speaker 1: You know, there's and I hey, well, I learned my
Speaker 1: lesson about Jalen Smith by the way, too. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: learned my lesson about you know, doctors say this doctor,
Speaker 1: I get it. Always trust your doctor. Yeah, but their
Speaker 1: doctors should say, you know, the guy could play, you know,
Speaker 1: and you have to determine. And you're right, Dave, You're
Speaker 1: absolutely right. I had a scout tell me, just find around,
Speaker 1: find around whatever, whatever, whatever around that's comfortable. Do you
Speaker 1: find around? Cleveland picks in at thirty three, Dan, you
Speaker 1: mentioned some offensive line. You know that's something. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good that some of the best
Speaker 1: players in the border OFFENSI envinement. They have guards, so
Speaker 1: they need tackle Conor Williams is still there, Tyrold Crosby.
Speaker 1: After that, Corbett and Madison. It would Madison be a guard,
Speaker 1: Corbett guard guard. So I mean, how could you pass
Speaker 1: over the court? Was a tackle in college, but yeah,
Speaker 1: he was Nevada. We watched him play tackle. He was
Speaker 1: a right tackle there. People thought about him. He's you
Speaker 1: talk about a tough guy. Yeah, yeah, he's next Richardson.
Speaker 1: I guess it. Seem's gonna play him at guard, Lando Brown,
Speaker 1: Jamarco Jones, Martine. How about that if he took Brown?
Speaker 1: How about Zeus's son playing for the for the Cleveland rounds,
Speaker 1: that'd be great. Well, we always get fooled by the shot.
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta do better with the Commissioner's a
Speaker 1: commission I always he'll be here when he gets here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the cameras are messing with us, but he will be
Speaker 1: here when he gets here. So the Cleveland Browns are
Speaker 1: the team that is on the clock. They got two
Speaker 1: of the next three picks. The Giants are gonna be
Speaker 1: after Cleveland and Dane. You got a pretty good feeling
Speaker 1: you know where the New York Giants are gonna go.
Speaker 1: And it makes all the sense in the world that
Speaker 1: they would fortify that offensive line exactly because that's what's
Speaker 1: been holding them back for how long years? They have
Speaker 1: needs at left guard and right guard. So yeah, they
Speaker 1: play him either way. Will Hernandezka is going to be
Speaker 1: an immediate upgrade. So if he doesn't go here to
Speaker 1: thirty three, which I don't think he would be, the
Speaker 1: Browns are set at guard. Giants lands right in their lap.
Speaker 1: Other top guys available, according to me, James Daniels, the
Speaker 1: center guard from Iowa, Ronald Jones, and I could get
Speaker 1: to him Jeff two if before the commissioner hits up
Speaker 1: about James down. There's another guy. When I asked about
Speaker 1: why would you take Ragnall over Daniels, and they say
Speaker 1: Ragnall is a is a four athlete but an eight
Speaker 1: character person and and and a salt of the earth guy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what about Daniels. Daniels is an eight guy
Speaker 1: excuse me, an eight player, eight athlete, but four on
Speaker 1: the character side. Character but the competitive, tough, competitive exactly
Speaker 1: looks like the picks in mm hmm. WHOA. So Austin
Speaker 1: Corbett is a guy that I think we'd kicked around
Speaker 1: as somebody you might want to take that played tackle
Speaker 1: at Nevada that you could kick inside to play guard.
Speaker 1: But Dane, you're saying for the Browns, if you're a
Speaker 1: team that's set it guard, I guess they're gonna take
Speaker 1: him at tackle and run him out there at tackle.
Speaker 1: I think so. And that's interesting because he walked on
Speaker 1: the Nevada and red shirted in twenty thirteen behind Joel Bitonio,
Speaker 1: who is the Browns left guard and so, and then
Speaker 1: he went on to start four years at left tackle
Speaker 1: for Nevada. So yeah, I'm eager to see if they
Speaker 1: think that he can stay outside and play tackle. Do
Speaker 1: they want to shuffle the interior the offensive line and
Speaker 1: maybe kick one of the other guys somewhere to a
Speaker 1: different position. That that's interesting. Pick eager to see what
Speaker 1: they want to do there. Now this did you see who?
Speaker 1: Did you think you could play tackle? Do you think
Speaker 1: it's strictly interior? I thought he was more of an
Speaker 1: interior guy. But you know that. I, hey, I understand it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I totally get what John Dorsey's trying to do.
Speaker 1: He's trying to get a tough He's trying to get
Speaker 1: some tough guys. In there. I mean, that's and this
Speaker 1: guy right here is he'll come off the ball, he
Speaker 1: can get some movement in the running game, he finishes
Speaker 1: his block, he's got some pop in his hands. Giants
Speaker 1: picks in by the way, we'll see that here in
Speaker 1: a minute. But I tend to see the guy that
Speaker 1: kind of struggles a little bit with his balance. But
Speaker 1: he's not on the ground. He's not one of those
Speaker 1: sloppy fall around on the ground guys. But you know
Speaker 1: what you can you can deal with this guy. I
Speaker 1: think play a tackle. He played left tackle the games
Speaker 1: I watched. He wasn't terrible. Looks like the Commissioner's already
Speaker 1: at the podium. Oh hey, wow, here we go. It starts.
Speaker 1: You knew this was coming. What I tell you the
Speaker 1: job spoiler burglar, And there is one of your cowboy targets.
Speaker 1: And if you're like me and thought that fifty would
Speaker 1: be a great place to find your starting left guard,
Speaker 1: they are starting to go because Corbett was one of
Speaker 1: those guys. Will her Nandez was one of those guys.
Speaker 1: And so now two picks into the second round, we
Speaker 1: thought we had a lot of possession. Uh what is it?
Speaker 1: We thought we thought we had a lot of depth
Speaker 1: at that position where hey, let's see what happens, and
Speaker 1: let's see if you're gonna have a guy fall into
Speaker 1: your lap at fifty, if you're gonna have to go
Speaker 1: get a guy, Well, we're two picks in and we're
Speaker 1: two picks down at at a spot that you would
Speaker 1: like to see fall. You're I think you're you're crazy, Jeffrey,
Speaker 1: not You're you're well intentioned, But I don't. It never
Speaker 1: lined up here, and that's Corbett. I don't know, am
Speaker 1: I crazy? I once you decided to not take an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman at nineteen, I just don't feel like the
Speaker 1: draft lined up well for the Cowboys to take a
Speaker 1: guard here, unless unless they're gonna do something nuts like trade,
Speaker 1: which I don't think they're gonna do. And I think
Speaker 1: they're ace in the hole that they can move lyle Collins.
Speaker 1: Not that I want them to, but that ace in
Speaker 1: the hole I think prevents them from feeling a ton
Speaker 1: of urgency about it. So I get and I respect.
Speaker 1: Your just made me sad because I have this list
Speaker 1: of guards and the next two on the list I
Speaker 1: had to change the color of their names on my
Speaker 1: board because now they're going I can't have them as
Speaker 1: I don't think you were ever gonna have them. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. Uh, and you're certainly not
Speaker 1: what a negative not with that negative attitude. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I felt like on the Draft show, we
Speaker 1: were really pushing guards very early. We were we were
Speaker 1: pushing Will Hernandez was our first favorite at nineteen, kept pushing.
Speaker 1: Looks like the Brown's pick is in here at three,
Speaker 1: at two thirty five. Excuse me, Jeff, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: felt like on the we were really pushing hard on
Speaker 1: this and here we go, Jim Brown making his way
Speaker 1: back to the podium, John's Dorsey and Jackson. Forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: we'll be out of here. Yeah, here we go. Yep, man,
Speaker 1: there you go. That's a surprise to some because I
Speaker 1: know there was there's a lot of people that would
Speaker 1: have Darius Guys as the next best running back available.
Speaker 1: I had Ronald Jones. But we're starting to hear things
Speaker 1: about Darius Guys. I worried about geist is off the
Speaker 1: field stuff, David what off the field stuff? I'm just saying, OK,
Speaker 1: I know we missing something here. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: ask you, I stand to be corrected. But I'm very
Speaker 1: very plugged into the LSU. I know you are. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Is there some guys you never heard
Speaker 1: one thing about that? I mean, teammate great, His teammates
Speaker 1: love him. He I mean, he's a passionate dude. I know,
Speaker 1: I don't know much. He plays a lot of Fortnite.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm he's not He's not at the stadium tonight.
Speaker 1: He I think his family's at US Sports bar watching
Speaker 1: picked it. Hey, I just said picked it? What the
Speaker 1: hell is that? What is um? I? I hope my
Speaker 1: guy is getting madder and madder. I can't believe he's
Speaker 1: going to be the fifth or maybe sixth running back taken.
Speaker 1: I think it's more of the company he keeps, type
Speaker 1: of thing, you know, like his he comes from, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a rough part of Baton Rouge. His brothers
Speaker 1: in jail for a drive by. His dad was murdered. Like,
Speaker 1: I think that's an inspiring story to me. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I know, And I think that, Like, it's not that
Speaker 1: he's a bad guy, it's more the company that he keeps,
Speaker 1: you know, the people that are around him. I think
Speaker 1: that might be what turns off some teams from guys.
Speaker 1: Oh man, dude, I'm not saying that's not no, I
Speaker 1: mean that sounds racist to me, I mean hot. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry if that sounds like a hot take. But uh,
Speaker 1: kid comes from a terrible, terrible background, and like I said,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's never been arrested, He's never been you know,
Speaker 1: no charges or anything like that, pulling himself out of
Speaker 1: a terrible situation to become I think the second best
Speaker 1: running back in this draft class. And if that's why
Speaker 1: he's falling, and hey, I'm not you know, I'm not infallible.
Speaker 1: If there's something there that teams know about that, I
Speaker 1: don't mea culpa. But I've never heard one bad word
Speaker 1: about the kid. Scout ahead, No, just I mean, if
Speaker 1: that's if, if he's guilty by association, that's terrible. That's
Speaker 1: the worst thing ever. Scouting report on the running back
Speaker 1: that the Browns did take kat Nick Chubb running back Georgia.
Speaker 1: I see him is more of a grinder, not the
Speaker 1: big play type of guy. Maybe the guy who can
Speaker 1: potentially be a bell cow type of back. You didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily have to do it in college because he had
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle. But that's your guy who could tote the
Speaker 1: note for twenty five, carries a game if you needed
Speaker 1: him to. I was a little bit surprised when I
Speaker 1: saw at the combine that he was as fast or
Speaker 1: faster than Sony Michelle, because I felt like, hey, Michelle,
Speaker 1: looks like the guy who's more bursty. Not only the speed,
Speaker 1: but Vertical was like thirty nine. Yeah, it was tested
Speaker 1: really well, and I thought, to me, the best thing
Speaker 1: he had going for him on tape is I thought
Speaker 1: he might be the best low tackled feeder of the
Speaker 1: running backs in this draft. Clus tough man if you
Speaker 1: try to go low and off him like Tank. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the balance and the ability to stay up, it's it's strong.
Speaker 1: It's a strong lower body. I think the Browns just
Speaker 1: got tired of people complaining why they passed on Chubb,
Speaker 1: so they made sure it didn't happen in the second round.
Speaker 1: The first round, so we'll get the We'll get his cousin,
Speaker 1: Nick Chub in the second round. Had to get h
Speaker 1: Chubby in Cleveland. Colts back to back picks coming up,
Speaker 1: and I thought Roquan Smith was a good destination for
Speaker 1: them at pick six yesterday they ended up getting Quinton Nelson,
Speaker 1: which to me the number one player in the draft
Speaker 1: instead of Roquan the number three player in the draft.
Speaker 1: To me personally interesting to see what they do at
Speaker 1: thirty six and thirty seven. Will they trade one of
Speaker 1: those picks? Uh? Will they try to go linebacker? They
Speaker 1: do need some linebacker help. They did get um, you know,
Speaker 1: they added Eberflus to the to the defense and things
Speaker 1: like that. So I think linebacker could be a good
Speaker 1: place to watch right here for the Colts. So for
Speaker 1: the cults, I also think you might want to look
Speaker 1: running back. I know that one just went and it's
Speaker 1: a league that doesn't value the running back too much.
Speaker 1: But with a guy like Darius Guys available, with Ronald
Speaker 1: Jones available, if you want to think about that in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: I think that's possible. Pass rush, defensive end, a linebacker.
Speaker 1: You mentioned running back. They're starting running back right now
Speaker 1: is Marlon Mack. Uh Frank Gore's in Miami. Uh, the
Speaker 1: running back dep charted. Indianapolis needs some help, So Marlon Mack,
Speaker 1: Josh Ferguson, Matt Jones, um, Christine Michaels. I mean they
Speaker 1: need some help in the League. See Mike Dave Helmet's
Speaker 1: favorite guy. He just stops by every team. I thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna run for fifteen hundred yards here in Dallas.
Speaker 1: Well that's what every fan base thinks when they get exact.
Speaker 1: Every fan base is like, listen, this guy's really got it.
Speaker 1: This guy was picked what was he picked? Thirty three?
Speaker 1: He was a high He was a pretty high pick.
Speaker 1: Fifty three was a second round pick. Put him behind
Speaker 1: this line. So the cults are set up to do
Speaker 1: some damage here. Back to back pick and the Dane
Speaker 1: Burglers seven round mock trap at thirty seven, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: so we're at pick thirty six. This is a this
Speaker 1: is a kind of where we thought about. Yeah, Sutton
Speaker 1: right here at Daniel Dane so ty hi there the
Speaker 1: top guy. Yeah, and then they have a little behind him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think that would grant, but that's not They
Speaker 1: could really use a guy with some size. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: would make sense in Indianapolis. So the pick is in.
Speaker 1: When the commissioners up there, we'll go to the podium
Speaker 1: and see what Indianapolis is doing. But they got back
Speaker 1: to back picks here, and then following them we will
Speaker 1: have Tampa Bay Chicago, Denver, Oakland, Miami as we make
Speaker 1: our way towards number fifty, and we're gonna be keeping
Speaker 1: our eyes on the trade value chart pretty much the
Speaker 1: entire night until they get to fifty to see because
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of names coming off the
Speaker 1: board that you really like. On Jeff Is, we notice
Speaker 1: in the war room inside the Ford Center at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, the curtain is down on the camera,
Speaker 1: so they are obviously have started this draft with maybe
Speaker 1: some thoughts in mind. They might be working their board
Speaker 1: a little. It looks like the commissioner is gonna walk
Speaker 1: through the podium and give us a pick. Roger with
Speaker 1: the thirty sixth pick, so was I wow, oh wow, okay,
Speaker 1: well that was um So that's the guy I was
Speaker 1: picking at eighty one, Darius Letters. Wow that we thought,
Speaker 1: maybe you have to take him at fifty. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: might have to go at fifty. That was my eighty
Speaker 1: first pick in the Cowboys seven round. Mack also the
Speaker 1: fake out of all fake outs because an LSU running
Speaker 1: backs had the name a second pick, second pick let
Speaker 1: the podium. Yeah, okay, okay, we just what the first
Speaker 1: five picks of the second round three guards, Yeah, Corbett, Hernandez,
Speaker 1: and now Bradon Smith. You better get those offensive lemon quick.
Speaker 1: We've been saying this entire way. If you don't get
Speaker 1: your offensive lineman soon, you're gonna be missing out. If
Speaker 1: you try to wait to the next round, we'll fall
Speaker 1: back to Cole Madison and we'll have to take him
Speaker 1: at eighty one or maybe sooner. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: a couple of these Colts players here. Darius Leonard First,
Speaker 1: I'll get started with Darius Leonard, guy that at South
Speaker 1: Carolina State a year ago. You're talking small school, but
Speaker 1: you're talking six two two thirty athletic guy. And I
Speaker 1: think that's kind of the way you're going in the
Speaker 1: NFL today with linebackers. As you're looking for athletic guys
Speaker 1: that you think are going to be able to help
Speaker 1: you in coverage and if you're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: be that three down player, you've got a ton of
Speaker 1: value in the NFL now. So even if a lot
Speaker 1: of people are going to think that's a little bit early,
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's a little bit early. And
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm one of his bigger fans for
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard but that's going to be the linebacker to
Speaker 1: the Colts and then Braden Smith to play guard. Who
Speaker 1: wants to hit the scouting report on Braden Smith, Dane,
Speaker 1: that's a guy you really liked. You and I got
Speaker 1: in a discussion one day on the Draft show. I
Speaker 1: kind of felt like that he was a kind of
Speaker 1: a guy that got tossed around a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: played tackle, played guard. Uh, you know you watch Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. You are a fan of his, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I liked it. I thought he was writing
Speaker 1: that mix in the second round and here he goes
Speaker 1: top forty. He played tackle, he played guard, kind of
Speaker 1: mismatch mixmatched him all over the line. And what I
Speaker 1: liked best was when you watch Auburn and they needed
Speaker 1: a big run, they went behind the right guard. They
Speaker 1: went behind big seventy one. Not the most physically impressive
Speaker 1: just with his power, He's not going to simply overwhelm guys,
Speaker 1: but he moves well. I right kind of get put
Speaker 1: self in position so he can wall off run lanes
Speaker 1: I had when I broke him down. I look at
Speaker 1: my notes, I had so many more strengths than weaknesses
Speaker 1: with him, and so I this is not too early
Speaker 1: for me. I liked this pick here for the Colts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go the opposite way on with Dane a
Speaker 1: little bit. I do agree with some of the things.
Speaker 1: I felt like he was a guy they kind of
Speaker 1: caught blocks, and you know, he has to keep a
Speaker 1: wide base to get any type of push, you know,
Speaker 1: And I felt like his feet were a little bit
Speaker 1: all over the place when it came to trying to block.
Speaker 1: I thought he was struggle with sustained a little bit.
Speaker 1: Games I watched where Georgia, Texas A and M Clemson
Speaker 1: and Lsu. I think he generally will take his man
Speaker 1: where he wanted to go, but he'll struggle with some
Speaker 1: space blocks on screens. They used him as a puller.
Speaker 1: He got a little bit over extended at times. But
Speaker 1: I thought he needed to be attle bit better with
Speaker 1: his hand. So I'll be a little bit interested. I
Speaker 1: had some guards a little bit better on my board
Speaker 1: than Braden Smith. But you know, we'll see Danny and
Speaker 1: I kind of see him a little bit different player.
Speaker 1: Indianapolis two offensive lineman in the first thirty seven picks
Speaker 1: of the struss, so Tampa Bay is on the clock.
Speaker 1: We'll be back with the pick and continued coverage. Here
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Speaker 1: dot Com and one oh five three The Welcome Back.
Speaker 1: It is coverage of the NFL Draft rounds two and three.
Speaker 1: Here Jeff cavan All alongside Dame Brugler, Brian brought Us,
Speaker 1: Kevin Turner, and David Hellman. We're gonna take you through
Speaker 1: every single pick and the latest one, which just happened
Speaker 1: is running back Ronald Jones going to the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Buccaneers from USC And if you guys will excuse me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hog the ball for a second because I'm
Speaker 1: offended that it says forty time, four six five. When
Speaker 1: he gets picked. The guy pulled up with a hammy
Speaker 1: in the forty, he runs in the four fours. He
Speaker 1: elected to run it. Watch him play. He pulled up,
Speaker 1: He elected to run it. He pulled up. All I'm
Speaker 1: saying Ronald Jones was my second favorite back in this class,
Speaker 1: and if you're just talking about running the football and
Speaker 1: the field. For running the football, he was my top
Speaker 1: running back in this class. I think when I watched
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones, I saw a guy he doesn't get caught, decisive,
Speaker 1: creative and tight spaces, great feel, incredible feat. I love
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones when he's running the football. A little bit
Speaker 1: undersized at two h five or so, but just watching
Speaker 1: that dude play football, you are going to see a
Speaker 1: guy play running back with the field that you dream
Speaker 1: of when you play running back. Are they running zone
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay? Because if they are, He's gonna kill it.
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones is an awesome player. All right, thanks, welcome back, guys.
Speaker 1: Hell And then the Broncos are now here we go.
Speaker 1: They're up on the h It looks like it says
Speaker 1: the Broncos's the Bears. It's a Bear selection. It's Mike Singletary.
Speaker 1: Can't play with him, can't win with him? Oh that
Speaker 1: one hurts? What I don't know? No, you need to
Speaker 1: stop it. Why does it hurt? Why can't we be
Speaker 1: hopeful it only hurts if you thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: happen in the first place. Why can't we have like things?
Speaker 1: Oh that hurts that. Roquan Smith went like, of course
Speaker 1: he did. At thirty nine, Dave, we had a chance.
Speaker 1: No he didn't. Weances James Daniels is gone and that's
Speaker 1: probably too late for him. At thirty nine, I thought
Speaker 1: he was the best center in the draft. And if
Speaker 1: you're gonna pla him at guard, great, he's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: You're gonna pla him at gard because they've got a
Speaker 1: pretty good center with Cody white Hair. Right. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we thought maybe Quintin Nelson in the first
Speaker 1: Uh he goes to Quintin Nelson goes to the Colts
Speaker 1: a few picks earlier. They wait till the second round.
Speaker 1: James Daniels follows to them. I brought us this wing
Speaker 1: your favorite players. This is one of my favorite players
Speaker 1: of drafting. It really. It was very disheartening to me
Speaker 1: to hear people talk about him, especially in my scout Buddies,
Speaker 1: about why he would potentially not have gone in the
Speaker 1: first round. This guy's got great feet and he positions himself.
Speaker 1: He can reach wide techniques. He gets movement on his
Speaker 1: man when he put him on the nose. He can
Speaker 1: wall guys off. I mean his base will get a
Speaker 1: little narrow fall back inside to adjust into fair, but
Speaker 1: he can watch his man out of the play. This
Speaker 1: guy's an outstanding position blocker's an athlete to get to
Speaker 1: the second level. He finished his blocks there, he adjusts
Speaker 1: to the twist. I mean, there is a lot to like.
Speaker 1: Movements not a problem for this guy. And again the
Speaker 1: questions will be about him is though, does he have
Speaker 1: the toughness? Does he have the toughness to be a
Speaker 1: guy that down after down in the National Football League?
Speaker 1: The talents there, the scouts question a little bit more
Speaker 1: about the toughness of him. We'll see how it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you see that a little bit with his game.
Speaker 1: The athleticism is there and not necessarily a ton of
Speaker 1: power at all times. But like he's the guy who
Speaker 1: at center is out there reaching a three tech de tackle,
Speaker 1: getting his head across and making a big hole for
Speaker 1: the runners s extension. It's a technical He's good. He's good.
Speaker 1: He's a good player. He's a very good player. Are
Speaker 1: you okay? I'm I'm recovering that you keep driving the
Speaker 1: steak into my heart. I'm just a realist. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: have loved him. I did's out a name, out a
Speaker 1: name where team's gonna have Texas as Connor Williams guard
Speaker 1: or taty Well, Dave, can I have him? Well? Let
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you this. Take him all day, Dave Hellman,
Speaker 1: talk about what you saw the Pro day in Austin.
Speaker 1: I just love I mean, I think he's an athletic dude,
Speaker 1: like I just whatever, dear, And honestly, let's say he
Speaker 1: is there at fifty, which I'd be kind of surprised.
Speaker 1: I'd be kind of surprised if they picked him for
Speaker 1: that matter, even if he was there, But just draft
Speaker 1: him and figure it out again. You talk about they
Speaker 1: love the flexibility here, and if you want to put
Speaker 1: him at guard, you can try him. If you want
Speaker 1: to let him play some tackle, I think he could
Speaker 1: do that too. I just think he's just a really
Speaker 1: impressive like he looks he looks like he's got the
Speaker 1: athleticism to play tackle in all honesty, but I think
Speaker 1: he could do a little bit of everything. So we
Speaker 1: are creeping closer to pick number fifty. And if you're
Speaker 1: tracking at home and you're not sure who's still available,
Speaker 1: well Courtland Sutton hasn't been taken yet. No, the s
Speaker 1: MU wide receiver still available, Williams hasn't been taken yet.
Speaker 1: You're whining about the run on offensive lineman. Nobody's touching
Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Don't call it whining if it is,
Speaker 1: I am. If you're the Cowboys, you were waiting for
Speaker 1: Courtland something to fall out of the top forty. Once
Speaker 1: he does that, that's when you think about trading up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's because that's we're getting to that threshold where Dane
Speaker 1: was talking, and it's and it's right now. He had
Speaker 1: it at forty one with Oakland. The picks in for
Speaker 1: Denver that's at two forty and so the threshold. I'm
Speaker 1: not putting words in your mouth. Then you thought about
Speaker 1: maybe Oakland there as a spot to to go up
Speaker 1: at forty one. Yeah, whether it's Goddard, whether it's Sutton,
Speaker 1: go up and get your guy. But you know, then
Speaker 1: you're done for the day. Yeah. Well, no, if you're
Speaker 1: going up that far, you're done. I mean I think
Speaker 1: you could do you can creative, Yeah, a couple of
Speaker 1: fourth rounders next year, Yeah, exactly. So that's what I
Speaker 1: would try to do right all the next year's picks.
Speaker 1: Because we're here today we want to pick. That's the
Speaker 1: Saints mentality. I'll once again remind everybody that the war
Speaker 1: room inside the Ford Center at the Star in Frisco,
Speaker 1: the camera is, the cover is on. So as you
Speaker 1: know we've made here, what does that one, two, three,
Speaker 1: four or five six, seven picks? We have not seen anything,
Speaker 1: any activity at all in this war room. So saying
Speaker 1: the nights and covered up, yeah, let's let's see. You
Speaker 1: know again, there's a lot of speculation about could they
Speaker 1: trade and to go up? Could there be some speculation
Speaker 1: about what's going on with a certain defensive back in
Speaker 1: the Great Northwest. So we have not seen anything as
Speaker 1: these center as the draft has been has been going on.
Speaker 1: Usually we kind of have an idea as we get
Speaker 1: close to their pick, but they have kept the kept
Speaker 1: the war room under wraps. Right. If they wanted Courtland Sutton,
Speaker 1: don't you think that's kind of the name we've had
Speaker 1: in our heads all day? If they wanted court and
Speaker 1: Sutton Sutton, and that the kind of I mean, the
Speaker 1: trade wis happened by now. If you wanted in that,
Speaker 1: I think you got to wait until you can get
Speaker 1: there with your three I mean well, or even less
Speaker 1: than that, or less if they wanted to trade both
Speaker 1: fourth round picks on the trade value chart, you're there
Speaker 1: fifty and both fourth round picks works out perfectly for
Speaker 1: pick forty. Okay, so you're in the ballpark right You're
Speaker 1: in the ballpark for you right now. So what about
Speaker 1: for you guys personally? Would you like that move with
Speaker 1: guys like Anthony Miller, Christian Kirk, Michael Gallup. I prefer
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller. Yeah, I always I try to project what
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys would do. I'm not super high
Speaker 1: on Courtland Sutton. I never have been. Um so me,
Speaker 1: I would not do it, but I think they would
Speaker 1: consider themisser's walking to the podium with the Broncos pick
Speaker 1: two forty. Look how big that free safety is. That's
Speaker 1: a tall drink of that water. Wow, Daney, people give
Speaker 1: me crap for my puns. Was like, he's still alone.
Speaker 1: Oh darns. Yeah. So for what the Cowboys wanted to do,
Speaker 1: that one might hurt. But I think for a lot
Speaker 1: of the guys in this room that kind of that's
Speaker 1: okay because it just means that you can sit at
Speaker 1: fifty and you might have to pick one of the
Speaker 1: guys we like better. I'll tell you what the draft show.
Speaker 1: That's what we call. That's a good call. I mean
Speaker 1: you had, I mean, Dane felt like that forty one
Speaker 1: could be the spot and that that to me, that's
Speaker 1: on the number right there. So good job at analyzing
Speaker 1: where that player potentially could have ended up. That's what
Speaker 1: we call a happy pen throw. That's you throw your
Speaker 1: pen across the room first three Theatric's sake, but you're
Speaker 1: at I'm I'm now that he's a Denver Bronco and
Speaker 1: godspeed to him. I hope he has a great career.
Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, you're kind of the You're kind of the
Speaker 1: white receiver whisper of the group, the white receiver, the
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Okay, oh I thought he said white, the
Speaker 1: wide receiver whisper of the group. What do you What
Speaker 1: do you got on this guy? On Sutton? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: like Sutton. I just I feel like Sutton is especially
Speaker 1: for this team. I want to be Dak friendly, right,
Speaker 1: and I feel like Dak friendly in today's NFL, and
Speaker 1: not just Dak friendly, but a lot of quarterback friendly.
Speaker 1: Is guys that are going to give you separation off
Speaker 1: the line scrimmage, and I'll tell you what. At the combine,
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton's three cone time gives me hope about him
Speaker 1: being that at some point. I just don't see that
Speaker 1: guy today. I see a guy that can go down
Speaker 1: the field and win fifty fifty balls you want to
Speaker 1: throw him screens and slants like that's okay. And athletically
Speaker 1: he's good. The forty times not great. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: beat you at speed, but he is an athletic guy,
Speaker 1: and I think his ceiling is high. I just think
Speaker 1: today you're watching a guy that you got work to
Speaker 1: do against press coverage, You got work to do as
Speaker 1: a route runner. There's just you got to develop him. Now.
Speaker 1: Once you develop him, you might get a heck of
Speaker 1: a player. For as big as he is. He sure does,
Speaker 1: you know, shoulder pads kind of get jacked a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, and defensive backs in his face kind of
Speaker 1: rock him back a little bad, that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: Don't see a ton of press coverage with you, Sure don't.
Speaker 1: And I guess I'd say we should be careful. High
Speaker 1: five and the Cowboys not getting Courtland Sutten right. Whoever
Speaker 1: was doing that because that could be the guy in
Speaker 1: five years who's the best wide receiver of the group.
Speaker 1: They did a lot of work on him, the fewer
Speaker 1: fivers in this draft, who has number one potential if
Speaker 1: he improves as a route runner and the testing numbers
Speaker 1: suggest that he can. It's just about muscle memory, it's
Speaker 1: about technique, the mechanics of the position, becoming a better
Speaker 1: route runner. I think he absolutely can. It's just uh,
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of time and with coaching, can
Speaker 1: he do it? So now we've got the Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: are the team that is on the clock. Would be
Speaker 1: it would be really funny if the room came up
Speaker 1: now that that picks out, they're just like, all right, turns,
Speaker 1: they're all open. Yeah, we're each side a minute though,
Speaker 1: and we felt like though if they needed a tie end,
Speaker 1: they'd have to get ahead of Miami. Am I correct
Speaker 1: about that? Dane? I think for me, Dallas Godder is
Speaker 1: a perfect fit at what forty two to Miami? They
Speaker 1: need a tight end. Yeah, that's a good spot for him.
Speaker 1: So if they really are serious about Dallas Goddard, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you need to trade up to this. Tennessee
Speaker 1: is now in. Oh. Yeah, Tennessee is going to be
Speaker 1: the ones making the pick. You called it, Brian, you
Speaker 1: said the Raiders were open for business, for business to
Speaker 1: take a new job and not want a draft. That's
Speaker 1: a really good Okay, Tennessee, let's think about them real quick.
Speaker 1: What we got, Miller, They're good? I mean, what's going on?
Speaker 1: What are we thinking about Tennessee. Tennessee took Rashaun Evans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's coming from fifty seven. They got a number of
Speaker 1: defensive needs, and I can see them looking wide receiver
Speaker 1: as well. I know they took Corey Davis last year,
Speaker 1: but that is a pretty thin receiving corps. They need
Speaker 1: a linebacker they need uh, or they took a linebacker
Speaker 1: in the first with Evans. They need pass rush? So
Speaker 1: is this Landry Landry Sweat? Uh? You know one of
Speaker 1: the pass rushers that would make sense. Well, let's like
Speaker 1: say number I guess they could go a number of
Speaker 1: different directions. Uh, you have one linebacker, I mean you
Speaker 1: could take another one funny wide receiver. I think John Robinson,
Speaker 1: the general manager of the Titans, he understands how the
Speaker 1: Patriots think. Yeah, he jumped ahead of them in the
Speaker 1: first round. Sure it is to get Rashaun Evans. Sure,
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots would have drafted Patriots picking two picks.
Speaker 1: So he jumped ahead of Patriots again here in the
Speaker 1: second maybe for a pass rob to get to get
Speaker 1: ahead of what the what the Patriots might do in
Speaker 1: two picks. Who are the pass rushers you're talking about here?
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Landry Landry Hubbard, ub Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: Bravel is an Ohio State guy, and I think he
Speaker 1: was at Ohio State when they were recruiting Hubbard. So
Speaker 1: he knows plenty about the player. Well, handshakes all around
Speaker 1: in the in the Tennessee war room right now. Mike
Speaker 1: Brable though, uh he is uh, looks like that. He's
Speaker 1: kind of looking down into here comes to pick though
Speaker 1: at two universe. Why looking good too? He said, Honor,
Speaker 1: But Harold Lander, Harold Landry is finally coming off the
Speaker 1: board to Tennessee Titans. Can we clear this up? Dane
Speaker 1: and the beast is our guy, Harold Landry. It's not
Speaker 1: Honor Landry, it's Harold guy you scouted named Honor Landry.
Speaker 1: There is not at least I don't think so. So
Speaker 1: Harold Landry's off the board. How about that poor guy
Speaker 1: he's watching his draft. Isn't that a guy mispronounces his name?
Speaker 1: You know, as you would have to be vy that
Speaker 1: it would be nice if you got your name right.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's sweating it too much. He's
Speaker 1: just happy to be draft. What do we talk about?
Speaker 1: The Titans need a pass rusher. They get the pass rusher, linebacker.
Speaker 1: They got the linebacker in the first, moving ahead of
Speaker 1: the Patriots to do so, they do so here in
Speaker 1: the second, thinking maybe he would go to the Patriots
Speaker 1: and two picks makes sense. And you've talked a lot
Speaker 1: about Landry. How is he? Does he have the dog
Speaker 1: in him necessary to hold up at the NFL level?
Speaker 1: You know? Does he have the toughness because rarely in
Speaker 1: the NFL? Are are you feeling one hundred percent? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like the Dolphins that their pick is going
Speaker 1: to be in. We'll probably have to wait for it
Speaker 1: here for a minute, but that you know what, Tennessee
Speaker 1: You're right, Dane, You you said it. They moved up.
Speaker 1: They had Tennessee had a purpose of what they were
Speaker 1: going to do, and they probably had an idea that
Speaker 1: New England sitting behind him, was going to go for
Speaker 1: a guy like Landry, you know, and from a from
Speaker 1: a film perspective, Like you said, we don't have all
Speaker 1: the information about what people think about the guys themselves,
Speaker 1: but from a film perspective, you see Harold Landry in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and he may be the best pure pass
Speaker 1: rusher in this draft. You know, Bradley Chubb is obviously
Speaker 1: a more complete player, but when you talk about just
Speaker 1: speed off the edge, turn the corner flat into the quarterback,
Speaker 1: Harold Landry's probably the best in this class to get
Speaker 1: something like that in the forties. If he turns into
Speaker 1: what he can turn into in the NFL, you got
Speaker 1: phenomenal value. If you're the Tennessee Titans. I almost don't
Speaker 1: care what you gave up. I'm well, and that's true.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're trading up, it's always what's the price.
Speaker 1: But I'm a big fan of both of their picks
Speaker 1: so far, Rashaun Evans and Harold Landry. Maybe Rashaan Evans
Speaker 1: will handle the toughness for both of them. And it's
Speaker 1: a good point. You got you got a glass eater
Speaker 1: and Harold alright, I'm sorry, And Rashaun Evans, yeah, you
Speaker 1: sure doing that. Dolphins up at forty two, we are
Speaker 1: eight picks away or so from the Cowboys picking up fifty.
Speaker 1: We were talking tight end earlier. Yeah, something the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Dane is all over this one. I believe the Goddard
Speaker 1: pick you think is coming up right here? Goddard just
Speaker 1: sicky right, yeah? I mean, aren't those the two best
Speaker 1: tight ends left? I mean, if you or it could
Speaker 1: be the guy Andrews let me according to my need sheet,
Speaker 1: tight end, this is the This is the tight end
Speaker 1: Dutch chart in Miami right now. Marki's Gray A J.
Speaker 1: Derby and some guy name gave An Escobar n I
Speaker 1: really thought he was gonna thrive. Dare you so? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean it's not a very good looking situation there,
Speaker 1: Uh tight end. I think it makes all the sense
Speaker 1: in the world with Goddard staring them in the face.
Speaker 1: Giseki if they want to go in that direction. Again,
Speaker 1: Gaiseki is not going to be your traditional inline guy.
Speaker 1: But if you can scheme him correctly, and I think
Speaker 1: Adam Gase could uh line him with the backfield, put
Speaker 1: him in the slot. He can do a little blocking
Speaker 1: for who would be of those guys the best scheme
Speaker 1: fit what you're talking about. I think they could scheme
Speaker 1: either one. It's just you know, his Adam gaze is.
Speaker 1: You know, he is smart enough as a play caller,
Speaker 1: an offensive core offensive guy where he understands their strengths
Speaker 1: and he can scheme them. So I just think comes
Speaker 1: down to which one they like more, you know, did
Speaker 1: they want more of an inline guy or they want
Speaker 1: more of a mismatch weapon down the field? Yeah, Goddard
Speaker 1: versus Giseki, if that's the direction they're going here. At
Speaker 1: tight End, I'm just going through my board trying to
Speaker 1: figure out and answer for the people who do the
Speaker 1: Cowboys one at this point and I'm looking at my
Speaker 1: board and the guy's left. I love some of these receivers.
Speaker 1: I got a few. I mean, yeah, there's no shortage
Speaker 1: of guys that good shape. Dallas Goddard's there, Connor Williams
Speaker 1: is there, Ronnie Harrison the seven and eighty nine, So
Speaker 1: hit some math on us there. Let's see what fifty
Speaker 1: seven and eighty nine should get you second and a
Speaker 1: third for a sixteen spot jump yet to number forty one,
Speaker 1: So we'll see what the math is on that. But
Speaker 1: when it comes to cowboys and guys that you're kind
Speaker 1: of waiting on and seeing, Hey, who do you who
Speaker 1: are you really interested in right now? I think for
Speaker 1: me it's guys like Goddard, Anthony Miller, uh, Michael Gallup,
Speaker 1: Connor Williams. If depends what you think about Maurice Hurst,
Speaker 1: what your doctors think about Maurice Hurst, Ronnie Harrison. Your
Speaker 1: got golden, but we got the Dolphins. We got the
Speaker 1: commissioner at the podium with pick number forty two. Where's it? Good? One?
Speaker 1: There we go go? Well, I think for this room
Speaker 1: that is quite all right. That a tight end when
Speaker 1: it wasn't Dallas Goddard. If you're the Dallas Cowboys, you're
Speaker 1: getting closer. You're getting closer, You're getting closer, and Dane's
Speaker 1: top tight end is still available on this draft. I
Speaker 1: think what pushes gisicky up, and maybe it didn't push
Speaker 1: him up, but the combine that he had you don't
Speaker 1: really see on tape, the numbers that he put up
Speaker 1: at the combine, that he's a four or five guy
Speaker 1: with elite change of direction and all. You don't really
Speaker 1: see that from You see the big guy, and you
Speaker 1: see the ability to go up for the football and
Speaker 1: shield guys out. But I don't think you saw elite athleticism.
Speaker 1: But much like Courtland Sutton, you'll get those testing numbers
Speaker 1: and you say it's in there. Right if we can
Speaker 1: coach him up technically and as a route runner, there's
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of ability in here for Mike Gisiki,
Speaker 1: I think, Dane, Dane, you were surprised that the Patriots
Speaker 1: made both of their picks yesterday, right, not Well, it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like they're gonna make this one. It looks
Speaker 1: like we are due for a trade here from what
Speaker 1: we're seeing. Uh, it's a Detroit Detroit and there's a
Speaker 1: tight end. There's the tight end, Dave. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: didn't do that on purpose. This is a Dave Dave
Speaker 1: does is it? Definitely for a time every time they
Speaker 1: need a tight end badly, Dane. He said the tight
Speaker 1: end depth chart was a mess there too. Let's look
Speaker 1: at the tight end depth chart. Yeah, and the pre
Speaker 1: and our pre show today in our pre show, the
Speaker 1: Draft show by Miller lte At when we did this afternoon,
Speaker 1: Dane identified two teams that needed tight ends. He said,
Speaker 1: Detroit and the Dolphins. It looks like that they're going
Speaker 1: to Detroit was picking fifty one. Yeah, they knew, okay,
Speaker 1: with the Witten news how to get ahead of Dallas
Speaker 1: and fifty how to get up there? The depth chart
Speaker 1: for the Lions at tight end because no more Eric Ebron,
Speaker 1: Luke Wilson formerly of Seattle, and then le Vine Toyol
Speaker 1: of the Foul, formerly of the Foul. So Luke Wilson
Speaker 1: the actor. Yeah, we also there's two Ells and Wilson
Speaker 1: in his last name. Half true. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Trade.
Speaker 1: You can hear it in my when I say Wilson, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. It was Willson, right, I did? I heard that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we've got this pick coming in. We've got a trade.
Speaker 1: We've got the Detroit Lions picking at number forty three.
Speaker 1: Overall the Cowboys will pick at fifty. Still in good shape,
Speaker 1: whether you've got a guy on the board that you
Speaker 1: really like, or whether you're thinking about a trade for
Speaker 1: a safety. And they're showing us that Mike Gisiki can
Speaker 1: dunk a basketball. That's what they want us to do.
Speaker 1: The volleyball, you can do it. I'm waiting for the
Speaker 1: volleyball highlights. Yeah, volleyball. He's gonna spike it if they
Speaker 1: ever get to it. I'll tell you what though, he's
Speaker 1: an absolute terrible blocker. Well, yes, I mean that is
Speaker 1: that is something I mean. And again, if you know
Speaker 1: he does not want to stick his nose in there,
Speaker 1: he would go play half man on you block it.
Speaker 1: There's times when Penn State brought him down inside to
Speaker 1: wham people and he really wanted no part of that.
Speaker 1: So play patty cake. Yeah, I mean he is a
Speaker 1: getting away try and you know, stay keep his feet moving.
Speaker 1: But there's no power to his game. For big, old
Speaker 1: tall guy, he just does not care about blocking very much.
Speaker 1: What else do they need out there in Detroit besides
Speaker 1: tied end? Let's see what they do in the first round.
Speaker 1: Took the center. Dane Brugler gave me a chart any
Speaker 1: defensive line pass rush, passterior defensive line, tight end, d tackle.
Speaker 1: Uh you put running back on here too, Dane. They
Speaker 1: do need a running back. Uh. They finished last in
Speaker 1: the league last year in Russia. Maybe the value of
Speaker 1: the second best running back worked out. Guy, we're at
Speaker 1: the podium. I like that. Oh it's Beverly Hills cop
Speaker 1: right there. I mean, that's not Eddie Murphy. But that's
Speaker 1: his jacket. Yeah, thank you. They cut away to be No,
Speaker 1: it's I mean Axel Foley. Great movie. He's good. On
Speaker 1: to see Beverly Hills copy have a hat that sends
Speaker 1: that duct time on it. Where are we going with us?
Speaker 1: Hold on Jack White please okay, Dane Brugler special tight
Speaker 1: end going here. All due respect to uh Darius guys,
Speaker 1: he remains on the board. Carry on Johnson. I love
Speaker 1: he's such a good player. He's when you watch him,
Speaker 1: he's a little leggy and he's not the most graceful
Speaker 1: athlete between the tackles, but he's so patient, he's so instinctive,
Speaker 1: and he is He might be the toughest, the physically
Speaker 1: toughest running back I have ever evaluated. You have to
Speaker 1: off the field, and he's the opposite of what they've
Speaker 1: been trying to do before. That hasn't really worked for him.
Speaker 1: Theo ritic and it was undersized, Yeah, undersized and try
Speaker 1: to win with quickness the first round guy Frank rag Now, yeah, toughness.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get tough. Yeah in Detroit and carry on,
Speaker 1: john and we'll run the ball very tough for you. See.
Speaker 1: I thought the best trade of him was the vision.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you you watch It's when you watch
Speaker 1: Albert play. It's almost like slow motion. And then they
Speaker 1: hand in the ball and it opens up and then man,
Speaker 1: he is up and through. So I'll see another thing too,
Speaker 1: really soft hands catching the football. You know, you throw
Speaker 1: him screen stuff underneath. He can make some things happen.
Speaker 1: But I really really like this guy. I'm with Dane
Speaker 1: on that. I really really am. Well to my friend
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman, I say this, if uh Darius guys doesn't
Speaker 1: have a legitimate off the field problem, somebody's gonna get
Speaker 1: a steal fairly soon. You would, you would think, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, what is you know? The rumor is that
Speaker 1: now six the whole combine thing about I mean, there
Speaker 1: were reports out that he lied about that question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did schefter that that the league. The league couldn't
Speaker 1: confirm that anybody asking that trade here, Oh yeah, got
Speaker 1: a trade. Let's just Washington's pick originally, which will be
Speaker 1: pick forty four. It's now going to be going to
Speaker 1: San Francisco. So let's think about San Francisco here, right now, boys,
Speaker 1: let's think about San Francisco and talk about San Francisco
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Speaker 1: Let's go right to the podium for the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers selection. Really enjoyed, okay. Ante Pettis is a wide
Speaker 1: receiver that goes which I'll be honest, don't mind. And
Speaker 1: I like Dante Pettis. I'm gonna say, yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: mind because they're better receivers. I don't mind because Anthony
Speaker 1: Miller is on the board and Michael Gallup is on
Speaker 1: the board. I mean, Christian Kirk is on the board.
Speaker 1: Jeff D. J. Chark is on the board. Jeff's belly
Speaker 1: aching about the offensive lineman aside. I'm gonna be set
Speaker 1: up to. I mean, Star Williams is still alive. He
Speaker 1: set up the draft a guy you really like here.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the curtains still down in the
Speaker 1: war room. We have not seen it all the way
Speaker 1: to their pick. I mean, I'm assuming when it gets
Speaker 1: to their time that they will raise that. But I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, I like Dante Pettis. That's at least the movement, balanced,
Speaker 1: body controls, sideline awareness, high point the ball, he'll adjust.
Speaker 1: I think he'll carry his routes inside. He can go low.
Speaker 1: I mean they'll struggle with some of the contested ball.
Speaker 1: Doesn't always play very strong, but he helps the quarterback.
Speaker 1: He helps the quarterback win in trouble. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: seen him run around, get open and uh and Browning
Speaker 1: the quarterback has found him for some big place, slow
Speaker 1: bringing the way he plays, I like the way you
Speaker 1: can escape as well. Punt return value. Also, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think you're wrong with anything that you said. I
Speaker 1: just think they're better receivers out there. Sure, I bad
Speaker 1: just one of my guys there. I mean, that's not
Speaker 1: a problem. Number forty five is gonna be Green Bay
Speaker 1: on the clock. Right now. We got forty five, forty
Speaker 1: sixty seven, eight forty nine, So five more players can
Speaker 1: go off the board before the Dallas Cowboys are on
Speaker 1: the clock. They could always move up, they could move back,
Speaker 1: but right now, five players go off the board before
Speaker 1: you pick reset our board. How is it looking, let's
Speaker 1: not include maur resharst Okay, we'll just say he's off.
Speaker 1: Darius Geiss one, Josh Jackson two, Dallas Goddard three, Isaiah
Speaker 1: Oliver for Anthony Miller five. That would be my top
Speaker 1: five available. Yeah, let's go. I got Connor, Williams and
Speaker 1: Goddard as my two guys that I would kind of looking.
Speaker 1: I know we've been talking about them. Anthony Miller guys
Speaker 1: and Gallup would be my five packers took. Oh for me,
Speaker 1: I go ahead, I've they've they've covered who's the best
Speaker 1: on the boards. Took Jirey Alexander yesterday. Yes, they're still
Speaker 1: so bad in the second and dairy. So to me,
Speaker 1: it's Jackson secondary offensive line. Josh Jackson makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense here we go from the universe. Oh my god, huh,
Speaker 1: none of them know, they don't know. Too young for
Speaker 1: that mess. A value, I tell you what. That is
Speaker 1: A team that said, you know what, we weren't good
Speaker 1: enough at corner last year. So jaire Alexander and round
Speaker 1: one from Louisville. Josh Jackson out of Iowa. In round two,
Speaker 1: I forgot are loading up. He was there. Good for
Speaker 1: him being here he gets to finally here his name
Speaker 1: called and Dallas native. Yeah yeah, good for him. A
Speaker 1: couple that together. Don't forget that, um, Kevin King was
Speaker 1: one of their high picks last year. So to say
Speaker 1: they're just trying this again, they're reacting because Darius, Demerius
Speaker 1: Randall and Quinton Rollins just didn't work out. So Kevin King,
Speaker 1: JayR Alexander and Josh Jackson now your cornerbacks for the Packers.
Speaker 1: And Josh Jackson all American, full size, over six foot.
Speaker 1: The ball production, you can't doubt the ball production. He
Speaker 1: will be six fastest defended eight interceptions, so he'll go
Speaker 1: get the football for you. The one thing that I
Speaker 1: think some of us would question is one he seems
Speaker 1: more like a zone cover three sort of corner, not
Speaker 1: a man guy. And the physicality is a big question mark.
Speaker 1: That's a guy that I've saw plenty of time that
Speaker 1: he doesn't look like he wants a big part of contact, right, No,
Speaker 1: I think you're spot on it. When he plays zone
Speaker 1: is a chance too, and this is why some teams
Speaker 1: evaluated him as a free safety. When he has a
Speaker 1: chance to be off the ball and really break down
Speaker 1: what's going on. In front of him, he's outstanding, but
Speaker 1: when you ask him to play man, that's where you
Speaker 1: see some separation. And that's where he struggles a little bit,
Speaker 1: not as comfortable, and maybe he'll get there, but right
Speaker 1: now he is a zone corner trying to play man,
Speaker 1: not a guy that has the ability to play both.
Speaker 1: So now let's take a look at what the board
Speaker 1: looks like in front of the Cowboys. Here you got
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. They are the ones that are
Speaker 1: on the clock. Now. Then you'll have the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers, Indianapolis Colts, and then Dallas Cowboys Chiefs
Speaker 1: coming up. This is the first time Kansas City's picked
Speaker 1: in this draft. Now they're getting Nancy. Yeah, Kansas City
Speaker 1: would like to pick a player. Let's get a look
Speaker 1: at their team needs and see if we can get
Speaker 1: a decent field just defense, defense in general with him.
Speaker 1: That's unusual. The Bengals usually stand there and make picks.
Speaker 1: But looks maybe this is where we see that we
Speaker 1: talk about the pass rushers Terrey Lorenzo, Carter, Josh Sweat.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is where we see the pass roger come
Speaker 1: off the board. Tombahlly, he gone justin Houston, you know,
Speaker 1: winding down, not quite the same player that he was.
Speaker 1: Could say d Ford's in the final year of his deal.
Speaker 1: Maybe see passed Rusher time flies. Now you're saying d
Speaker 1: D four to his last year of his deal. Well, yes,
Speaker 1: Frank Clark the final year of his deal, really been
Speaker 1: doing this song. Let me ask you this though, is
Speaker 1: I mean the Dane on the chart here you're talking
Speaker 1: about center guard. Is it possible? Is this where they
Speaker 1: give Connor Williams? Sure you know, Is this where all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they worked him out as as a
Speaker 1: possible pick. It is possible. I think their knees on
Speaker 1: defense are so pronoun But no, I think that's a
Speaker 1: good name to put out there because that they need
Speaker 1: they need. I mean, is Connor Williams at this point
Speaker 1: better than the guys you're naming right well, which and
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that. I'm gonna do my selfish
Speaker 1: thing where I turned this toward the Cowboys for a second.
Speaker 1: I know y'all did your best. Five Yeah, let's take
Speaker 1: a look. Throw for me the names and we're coming
Speaker 1: up on fifty soon. The names that we know that
Speaker 1: Cowboys have shown interest in who are still there? Huh
Speaker 1: it looks like since so Cincinnatis swapped third rounders. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean okay. Con Connor Williams is a guy that
Speaker 1: they've had contact with. He's a local prospect. He came
Speaker 1: to Dallas day. Christian Kirk is a guy they worked out.
Speaker 1: DJ Chark is a guy they worked out. Anthony Miller
Speaker 1: they met with at the combine. I believe, yes, which
Speaker 1: and hey in the second round. That's that'sn't good enough.
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, a lot of thirty visitors are off
Speaker 1: the board, but I do think there are there's an
Speaker 1: impressive number of guys still available who I mean they've
Speaker 1: brought in on visits they've had at their facility. So
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that is curious to me. I wonder
Speaker 1: if they follow that, you know here with their pick
Speaker 1: coming up in a few minutes, did you guys see
Speaker 1: Brielance Speaks is more of an inside guy or outside
Speaker 1: gay because that's another guy who visited. Is that a
Speaker 1: that's a guy who should he be in? I see
Speaker 1: him as a guy that hopefully we don't even talk
Speaker 1: about today. Hey doesn't make that so he doesn't make
Speaker 1: DA eighty one, right, I wanted to talk about him
Speaker 1: at one sixteen. Yeah, exactly, I mocked I mocked him
Speaker 1: here at once. We did that. Yeah, we mocked him.
Speaker 1: I mocked him here in the fourth and here to Dallas.
Speaker 1: Also a second round, no, no, no, the folk round,
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys. Yeah, you said all the pass rushers too.
Speaker 1: Gwart's Armstrong's name, ye who we didn't talk about. That
Speaker 1: seems early for him. Yeah, what about two Ray from Rutgers.
Speaker 1: That's to raise in that mix? Uh, if we just
Speaker 1: get to throw our guys out there. Duke is G
Speaker 1: four from Wake Forrest, that demand that his name be mentioned.
Speaker 1: These are the day two pass rushers that are going
Speaker 1: to come off the board here. It's just a matter
Speaker 1: of when. And again the Chiefs have the need that
Speaker 1: could make sense. They need you know, Derek Johnson's no
Speaker 1: longer there, and they need help on the inside. They
Speaker 1: need corner help. They can use more depth upfront and
Speaker 1: defensive line. So I think all three levels needs help
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. Wouldn't surprise me if any direction they
Speaker 1: went here on defense and the pick is in again
Speaker 1: their number forty six here, so we'll have forty six,
Speaker 1: forty seven, eight nine, you got four players names you're
Speaker 1: gonna hear before the Dallas Cowboys hit the clock. If
Speaker 1: they stay put at the war room back online, they're
Speaker 1: not back. This is the first time we've seen them all.
Speaker 1: Damn night. Hey, guys. Rod Marinelli looks like a bouncer
Speaker 1: at the club standing behind guys. Same to you, guys.
Speaker 1: That's both defense. That's a shard in there as well.
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli looks like he's about to mess somebody up.
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, well, now what about your defensive players? Here?
Speaker 1: Pains that. There you go, there's your there's your hint
Speaker 1: about again, Chris roh Shard. There have they shown any
Speaker 1: interest in the Shepherd kid, the defensive table from Fort
Speaker 1: Hayes State? They have had, they have they have, Yes,
Speaker 1: he was one of the guys. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's one of my few second rounds on defense. That's
Speaker 1: why I asked. I don't know if they brought him in,
Speaker 1: but there was there was enough I know. I'll see
Speaker 1: how on Twitter there was enough buzz about them being interested.
Speaker 1: The top defensive players on my board Isaiah Oliver Corner
Speaker 1: from Colorado, Ronnie Harrison, safety Alabama. Harrison Phillips defensive lineman Stanford.
Speaker 1: Did I miss Carlton Davis. Carlton Davis corner Auburn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard, Ohio State looks like the picks in here
Speaker 1: for Kansas City on the trade I should feel old.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I see what he did there. He listens
Speaker 1: to our show of a guy that we wanted in
Speaker 1: the fourth round, and they decided to take him in
Speaker 1: the second. He said they would have someone speak to
Speaker 1: the team priest, and the priest speaks, Yeah, interior defensive
Speaker 1: line is a need for the Kansas City Chiefs, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Brelan speaks, which, with all due respect
Speaker 1: to the young man, we think that's a couple of
Speaker 1: rounds earlier. Looking at my board though, and those interior
Speaker 1: defensive tackles there's not a ton of them. Less sure.
Speaker 1: YEA real quick tweet from Jason lachanfora getting some word
Speaker 1: the TMZ might have an unflattering story about Geiss that
Speaker 1: could be published soon, which may be something to do
Speaker 1: with team steering. Clear Okay, it's very vague, so we
Speaker 1: shall see whatever. Jason Lackerford's right like ten percent of
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, that's generous, all right. Well, we're in
Speaker 1: we're in the war room. They're inside the Ford Center
Speaker 1: at the start Frisco. Uh. You know, everybody looks very
Speaker 1: calm right now. I love Nathan Sheperdick here. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: the fact that the defensive coaches, these are some hints,
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of just need to focus in
Speaker 1: a little bit now on the on the defensive players.
Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just say this. And and Boise State
Speaker 1: is not your typical non power five school. I mean
Speaker 1: they're a little more they got a little more umph
Speaker 1: to them. But Boise State and Fort Hayes State, as
Speaker 1: you go, that would that would well, it would just
Speaker 1: it would be a departure from what the Cowboys do.
Speaker 1: Let's do it all right, who are in Arizona on
Speaker 1: the podium at the podium. Yeah, here we go. Selfie
Speaker 1: at the podium. I like it. Yeah, he's the Millennium Well,
Speaker 1: I like it. I believe for the Christian Kirk pick,
Speaker 1: we're gonna turn our attention to Kevin Turner because he
Speaker 1: was your wide receiver number two. Yeah. Draft, And Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen has a pretty good target to throw too. Right now.
Speaker 1: I get the concerns about him not being able to
Speaker 1: maybe play the X although his build is stocky enough
Speaker 1: that you know, I'm not terribly concerned about him getting
Speaker 1: off pressed. But he's tiny, you know, five ten and
Speaker 1: a half. I totally get and do it well. I
Speaker 1: think he's the type of guy though, you just get
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands and let him go. The
Speaker 1: phone is ringing. It looks like Will McClay is handing
Speaker 1: it over to Steven Jones. Maybe somebody trying to figure
Speaker 1: out if they can get this pick from Dallas. If
Speaker 1: Steven hangs that thing up quick, he says he's got
Speaker 1: his player and he's gonna move on. If he gets
Speaker 1: a little bit longer. If he flips it, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a long sheet of paper in front of him,
Speaker 1: which is a trade chart. And so he's listening right now,
Speaker 1: probably a little smile on his face. Let's see if
Speaker 1: you want to give us, gotta give us way more
Speaker 1: than that at the end of the day. Yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Usually Steven, if he's got his guy, he'll take that
Speaker 1: phone and put it down quick and uh, let's see
Speaker 1: what in fact is going on here. But he's having
Speaker 1: an in depth conversation right now. Is that anybody is
Speaker 1: that that's not Paul Alexander talking to Jerry. Is it it?
Speaker 1: It looks like it is. Well, if it is, it is,
Speaker 1: I'll talk about Connor Williams. That there's Paul Alexander, the
Speaker 1: offensive line coach. So I mean you got Marinelli and
Speaker 1: Chris Richard, but they're not in a conversation. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: here we go lts at the podium with the commissioner. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's my guy. Light On didn't have enough pass rush already,
Speaker 1: that's my guy. Yes, Noosu. My favorite thing about Niosu
Speaker 1: is when you look up I don't know if he
Speaker 1: quite cracks the top of the leaderboard, but when you
Speaker 1: look up passes defended in college football, he's towards the top.
Speaker 1: It's because he's just got the instincts coming off the edge,
Speaker 1: you have to bat the ball down the top. Like
Speaker 1: fifty uh passes defended list in college football, you have
Speaker 1: forty nine defensive backs and one linebacker and that's in Woasu.
Speaker 1: And you're right, he's near the top. He just has
Speaker 1: an innate ability to find the passing lane, get his
Speaker 1: hands up. Not great sack production, but you know he
Speaker 1: finds a way to impact, whether it's getting his hands
Speaker 1: up in a line of scrimmage. He's gonna stand up
Speaker 1: play that outside linebacker role for the Chargers in the
Speaker 1: three four. It makes some sense, all right, So no
Speaker 1: wo su is the pick there at number forty eight.
Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles trading in front of the Cowboys, trading
Speaker 1: in front of the Cowboys for number forty nine, Please
Speaker 1: don't take Dallas Goddard, And they absolutely could. They couldn't
Speaker 1: use the tackle. Yeah, they can use the tackle. I
Speaker 1: mean what I worried about them taking Goddard at thirty
Speaker 1: two is their second tight end. Yeah, they were making
Speaker 1: that pick. They run a lot of two tight end
Speaker 1: sets from Getterson's office. Burton's gone, what's his name, Sellek retired?
Speaker 1: That makes some sense. I don't think this makes the
Speaker 1: Cowboys flinch. Just with looking who as in that room
Speaker 1: right now, this seems unusual to me. They are just
Speaker 1: hanging out. Well, not only that, but just usually by
Speaker 1: the time you're I mean, they're basically on the clock, right.
Speaker 1: It's odd that there's two different types of coaches in here.
Speaker 1: There's a trade going down. There's an offensive coach and
Speaker 1: two defensive coaches, and none none of them look super happy,
Speaker 1: like they look like they're in a holding pattern, like
Speaker 1: what's what are we doing here? I think they're waiting
Speaker 1: to see if one goes, if something something happens, they're
Speaker 1: going to go to the other and they want to
Speaker 1: know about it quick again Stephen Jones, and it has
Speaker 1: been on the phone a couple of different times. It
Speaker 1: looked like there was nothing really extensive. From that. Walter
Speaker 1: Julief on the far left is given an explanation. That's
Speaker 1: Lionel Vital to his left, and they're kind of getting
Speaker 1: Will McClay is over on that far right, next to
Speaker 1: Charlotte Jones. Anderson's Hall on the phone. Chris Hall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he'll call the player too. So I want to
Speaker 1: throw this out. I know Jeff just said, you know,
Speaker 1: don't draft Dallas Goddard, Philly, don't do that. But I'll
Speaker 1: take Connor Williams if you want to leave him there.
Speaker 1: Felt Philly could use a tackle though. Yeah, they're I mean,
Speaker 1: Jason Peters is nine thousand years old. Starting to get
Speaker 1: some smiles in there now from Steven Jones. Excuse me.
Speaker 1: Chris Hall will be working. He's worked with Robert Blackwell,
Speaker 1: who's got at the table for the cowboys. Who's got
Speaker 1: the card? So he will be the once they make
Speaker 1: the pick. Chris Hall there in the bottom right, he will,
Speaker 1: he will hand he will tell Robert Blackwell who to
Speaker 1: write the card and they'll send it in. But again,
Speaker 1: Walter Julife on the far left, he's the National Scout.
Speaker 1: He is at University of Texas grad by the way,
Speaker 1: and he was at the pro day for the University
Speaker 1: of Texas Texas. Dude, yeah, so he is. He is
Speaker 1: standing up here. He's got a little bit uh, probably
Speaker 1: feeling it. He's having to make some opinions here. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen Rod Marinelli or Chris rah Sharton move in
Speaker 1: the last three minutes and they're just standing still back
Speaker 1: there by the way. TMZ has said that they don't
Speaker 1: have a story coming, So okay, looking for is batting
Speaker 1: a thousands? Okay, yeah for a holy cow? All right,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones. He is now on the phone again, so
Speaker 1: maybe somebody trying to get up. Chris Hall is still
Speaker 1: holding with Robert Blackwell. They're waiting. This is or there.
Speaker 1: Walter's standing up now, I mean yeah, and it's and
Speaker 1: let's see. Will McClay is gonna go get the player.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like they're gonna stand in here. If
Speaker 1: I'm guessing they're gonna make the pick. Will McClay will
Speaker 1: call the player, as we heard in the secret audio
Speaker 1: last night, he gets the player, and then he'll hand
Speaker 1: the phone to Jerry Jones. Uh if in fact that's
Speaker 1: the case. So let's see what happens here. But who
Speaker 1: is excited right now? Oh, Walter Julife just got a
Speaker 1: pat on the back from the secondary coach the Eagles
Speaker 1: when school where he would get Texas. Okay, the Eagles. Oh,
Speaker 1: handshakes all around and they are shaking the hand of
Speaker 1: the offensive line coach. Yeah, Paul alexand this this is
Speaker 1: this got a little Connor Williams maybe written all over it. Here.
Speaker 1: It's fine with that. The Eagles went ahead of the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I think for the tight end. Okay, here he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go. Let's see who in fact it's gonna
Speaker 1: make this pick for the Eagles. By Jerry on the phone,
Speaker 1: they picked the player. Uh, hey, kicker, you send a
Speaker 1: kicker to do this? Oh wow, inaccurate? Uh, it's about
Speaker 1: what about the twenty five year olds? Hayden Hurst was Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the rich get richer there him off. We cut
Speaker 1: him off. Not just the rich getting richer, but drafting
Speaker 1: a guy who was literally named after the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: on the day you're Hall of Fame tight end, Yeah,
Speaker 1: might have called it quits, but yeah, Dallas wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: take him. I don't think. I don't think so. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I think Dallas. I think they're totally okay with what
Speaker 1: just happened. I don't think they have any bit of
Speaker 1: a problem what's going on here right now. So this
Speaker 1: puts the Cowboys on the clock. We've seen Paul Alexander
Speaker 1: in there. We've seen uh, defensive coaches in there, but
Speaker 1: there the handshakes for Paul Alexander all around the line. Coach.
Speaker 1: Is there any offensive lineman you would consider here not
Speaker 1: named Connor Williams. I think we're across the board. He's
Speaker 1: our favorite guy here an offensive line. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: pick a lineman here, and it looks like they are handshakes,
Speaker 1: it's Connor will It should be Connor the Copel Native.
Speaker 1: Bring him home, and that's probably gonna get an A
Speaker 1: plus around this room. Is it not absolutely solid? I
Speaker 1: think it's on my board. He's what we were talking.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going back aways. But Brian, you and
Speaker 1: I went down to Austin, like you mentioned earlier, we
Speaker 1: watched him work out. Yeah, we was impress. We were
Speaker 1: not only talking about drafting him at nineteen, we were
Speaker 1: talking about using him as trade bait for a team
Speaker 1: that wanted to get him at nineteen. Right, So for
Speaker 1: you to tell me that if he is the pick
Speaker 1: at fifty, a super athletic guy who could be a
Speaker 1: tackle and a guard and maybe even play some center, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that, Picks. Didn't I tell you not to
Speaker 1: belly ache and wine? You told me we weren't going
Speaker 1: to get a guard, sir, your right idea, And now
Speaker 1: we're about to get a great left After all of
Speaker 1: that whining or right tackle or right tackle, whichever way
Speaker 1: they choose to play it, this offensive line is going
Speaker 1: to be the strength of this team again and one
Speaker 1: of the best in the league again. Pick is in.
Speaker 1: Officially we've known that, but the thing is officially end. Yeah.
Speaker 1: All we all we are waiting is for them to
Speaker 1: actually take the podium and say it. But I think
Speaker 1: our context clues are telling us what's in and here's
Speaker 1: Walter again. Walter Julith is the University of Texas grad
Speaker 1: and is the product podium. Here we go family, his
Speaker 1: family Assistant program, which offers character those greeting of the
Speaker 1: military loved one, thank you, there you go, I loved
Speaker 1: And they announced him as a guard at the podium.
Speaker 1: And if you plug that guy in it left guard
Speaker 1: with lylat right tackle, Tyring at left tackle, Zach Martin
Speaker 1: and Travis Frederick, you are right back to having one
Speaker 1: of the best offensive lines in the league. This is
Speaker 1: an A plus picks, all right. The fact is this
Speaker 1: young man's playing is listed as a tackle. Does that
Speaker 1: mean Lile Collins now plays guards? They announced him as
Speaker 1: a guard at the podium, they said, Connor Williams, I see,
Speaker 1: I see the tea right there next to the name,
Speaker 1: right at the podium, they said. But let's the same thing,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones the press conference. You figure it out if
Speaker 1: I mean, put them out there, and if you decide
Speaker 1: Connor Williams could play right tackle better than Lyell whatever.
Speaker 1: But I love the thought of this big dude playing
Speaker 1: left guard. I'll see it. That's you talk about Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith at left tackle and Connor Williams at left guard.
Speaker 1: That's the most athletic left side of an offensive line
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. That's nuts. Yeah, I like this pick
Speaker 1: a lot. I feel really good about it. I've you
Speaker 1: look at the way this draft is set up, you know, Jeff,
Speaker 1: going back to what I keep making fun of you for,
Speaker 1: it didn't it did not look like a talent like
Speaker 1: this would be there for them at fifty. It looked
Speaker 1: like you're either gonna have to make it. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to make that pick between nineteen and thirty five.
Speaker 1: That's why they play the game's day. You're right, That's
Speaker 1: why they play the game. The way it was set up,
Speaker 1: it looked like it was either gonna be nineteen to
Speaker 1: thirty five or maybe you gotta wait to get an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman until the fourth round and instead pick fifty
Speaker 1: is a guy that some people talked about as a
Speaker 1: first round pick. I called his games when he was
Speaker 1: a high school he was a senior. I did Teddemrick
Speaker 1: and I did the Copel football games, and it was
Speaker 1: an amazing athlete, amazing player. Then went down to Texas.
Speaker 1: A lot of people had this guy potentially as one
Speaker 1: of the top offensive lineman coming out in the draft.
Speaker 1: If I'm not right, if I'm not wrong about that
Speaker 1: Dane about you know, and things he got hurt in
Speaker 1: the USC game. I'll tell you what an athlete. And
Speaker 1: again Dave and I went down to the Pro day.
Speaker 1: They worked him out as the Saints, worked him out
Speaker 1: as a center, worked him as a guard. He's got
Speaker 1: great flexibility in the hips, he bends his knees and
Speaker 1: everything you want extend. I just think this is an
Speaker 1: outstanding pick for the Cowboys. Though there was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, they said, you know, Jerry Jones even said,
Speaker 1: do we allocate more resources for the offensive line? Someday
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to maybe think about this. But they
Speaker 1: went out and got him one, with this young man outstanding.
Speaker 1: Love it, love it, love it, love five everyone. We
Speaker 1: did it. They'll be back on the clock at eighty
Speaker 1: one now that we've gone nineteen and fifty, and it
Speaker 1: matches up really well with what you needed to address.
Speaker 1: You needed a linebacker who could play three downs. You
Speaker 1: needed this offensive lineman. Now you need a tight end
Speaker 1: or wide receiver. And I know, I know, we gallop
Speaker 1: we've been talking about all right, let's not get ahead
Speaker 1: of us. I'm ahead of myself. But I know we've
Speaker 1: been talking shot, We've been talking about receiver for so long,
Speaker 1: but it is important. But again, for the millionth time,
Speaker 1: I think you can win games with the guys that
Speaker 1: are on this team right now. I do think you
Speaker 1: needed an upgrade on the offensive line, and I think
Speaker 1: you needed some depth at linebackers. So I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying this is you know, home run, grand slam,
Speaker 1: knock it out of the park. But I don't see
Speaker 1: any reason why you should be upset about what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have done so far. How does this team win
Speaker 1: games next season? Out of the ball And we saw
Speaker 1: how band aiding up that whole offensive line last year
Speaker 1: worked out for him. Yeah, yeah, this is what you do.
Speaker 1: Marcus Martin, good death, Cameron Fleming, good depth. Right, let's
Speaker 1: go win. Yeah, I mean, I just this is about
Speaker 1: this is Dak friendly. Is what this is. We talk
Speaker 1: about that a lot. This as Zeke friendly as it
Speaker 1: gets right here, let's go and I love it. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm pumped. I'd wanted to get it off as alinement
Speaker 1: if some sort I just didn't think they would do it,
Speaker 1: even if, like in my case, I had the Cowboys
Speaker 1: first round pick. As a guy in a top fifty,
Speaker 1: he'd probably be around thirty five. For me. Connor Williams
Speaker 1: would have been ahead of him. If you just take
Speaker 1: away the rounds they were picking, you say, hey, two
Speaker 1: rounds have happened and you got Layton Vanderesh and Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: Are you happy? Absolutely? I'm a happy draft at this point.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna wait on their third round pick, or
Speaker 1: if they're gonna trade up, if they're gonna move around.
Speaker 1: But right now, the Chicago Bears are on the clock
Speaker 1: at number fifty one. Their pick is in, and we'll
Speaker 1: have that pick and the others behind it when we
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Speaker 1: You got Jeff Cavanaugh, Dane Brugler, Brian brought us, David
Speaker 1: Hellman and Kevin Turner with you. And we will be
Speaker 1: with you for every single pick if you missed it.
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys got Connor Williams, the Texas left tackle.
Speaker 1: I would imagine he's the left guard here, but they
Speaker 1: got him at number fifty overall, which to us is
Speaker 1: an incredible value, great pick, and we are loving it
Speaker 1: here at the start in Frisco. Right now, the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears are on the clock pick number fifty one. That
Speaker 1: pick is in. It is Anthony Miller, wide receiver out
Speaker 1: of Memphis and Dane. It's all of our guys, but
Speaker 1: it's your guy. You love Anthony Miller in my third receiver.
Speaker 1: I loved what the Bears did last year at trabisky
Speaker 1: and then my boys shaheen at tight end on day two.
Speaker 1: They're killing it again this year. Roquan Smith and the
Speaker 1: first James Daniels and Anthony Miller here in the second
Speaker 1: love what the Bears are doing. Ryan Pace is doing
Speaker 1: an outstanding job as GM and Miller. That's two ones
Speaker 1: and a two on my board. Yeah, Smith, Daniels, Miller,
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller was a is a top forty pick on
Speaker 1: my player on my board. A guy who flashes little
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. I don't say that lightly. There's a lot
Speaker 1: to like about him. What he offers looks like the
Speaker 1: picks in for the Colts. Here, this is a pick
Speaker 1: that got from Baltimore or is this a trade? Let's see.
Speaker 1: I mean the culture is making a selection here two
Speaker 1: fifty two, so this is now the picks are moving quickly. Here.
Speaker 1: It's Komoco Toure the Rutgers. A defensive end, which is
Speaker 1: a guy what did he have a shoulder issue? Shoulder?
Speaker 1: He had a shoulder repaired and I believe it was
Speaker 1: the right shoulder, right And watching him on tape, he
Speaker 1: lines up there on the left side and I watched
Speaker 1: him use that right arm to straight arm people left
Speaker 1: and right, so it looked repaired to me. And Komoco
Speaker 1: Toure is a guy that I didn't think was talked
Speaker 1: about leading up to this draft. And as the numbers
Speaker 1: are telling you, if you're on the TV, seven tackles
Speaker 1: for loss in four sacks. To me, those numbers don't
Speaker 1: do justice to how good he looks as a pass
Speaker 1: rusher on tape. That guy looks like he's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to get after the quarterback in the NFL. Good
Speaker 1: looking body too, if you know when you talk about
Speaker 1: him and how he looks well but no, but he
Speaker 1: can like really bend, he dips his shoulder, gets real
Speaker 1: load of the ground to run around the corner. So
Speaker 1: can absolutely Can I interject here and do my Dave
Speaker 1: thing again? Absolutely Dave thing your partner's crew, go ahead,
Speaker 1: going back to our Connor Williams pick here at pick
Speaker 1: fifty for the Dallas Cowboys. University of Texas Longhorns. Shout
Speaker 1: out Clarence Hill, it's his birthday. He gets a Longhorn
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday. Chill or Terrence, as Jerry calls him. Sometimes, Um,
Speaker 1: talk to me, Okay, we just said that this guy
Speaker 1: can do it all. Talk to me about how you feel.
Speaker 1: If he's gonna play left guard, give me a report
Speaker 1: on that. If he's gonna play right tackle, give me
Speaker 1: a report on that. What do you think suits him
Speaker 1: in those two pursuits? I like him best more and
Speaker 1: think about it. The more I think at left guard,
Speaker 1: I think that's such an ideal fit for him. He's
Speaker 1: just a little short armed to tackle right right is
Speaker 1: good enough, but not thirty three is kind of the benchmark.
Speaker 1: So he hits it, but not ideal like you said, um,
Speaker 1: he's very athletic, he moves well, he's got some nasty too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he will fish, he will finish. I mean the echo
Speaker 1: of the whistle. So uh yeah, I mean this is
Speaker 1: this is I was. I was, you know, you guys
Speaker 1: know me. I was against offensive line in the first round.
Speaker 1: Did not like the value there here getting Connor Williams
Speaker 1: at fifteen. But to your point, Dan, and to your credit, though,
Speaker 1: you said you didn't feel they had to get something
Speaker 1: a little bit better than a band aid, and you
Speaker 1: didn't feel like though with the addition, and I might
Speaker 1: disagree with you just a little bit about you know,
Speaker 1: about Martin. I think he's a little bit better than
Speaker 1: a band aid. But to your point, you know, you said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm on board now if they get somebody that is
Speaker 1: better than the band aid. And you know, and Connor
Speaker 1: Williams is clearly better than a band aid. I mean,
Speaker 1: he this is a guy that again, I just keep
Speaker 1: going back to that work. The tape is really good
Speaker 1: and the workout. I'm watching him work out at guard
Speaker 1: I'm watching him snap the ball at center. Yeah. Proday
Speaker 1: in Austin. I mean, we did our whole big series
Speaker 1: about that. And you can go back and watch Cotter
Speaker 1: Williams going through the drills and you're and you're seeing
Speaker 1: a flatback player at an ankle bender, a knee bender.
Speaker 1: You're not see he They asked him to go all
Speaker 1: the way to the ground, put your rear all the
Speaker 1: way to the ground, just standing. I can't do that,
Speaker 1: and he just goes without even without even I mean,
Speaker 1: just whoop right down to the ground. And that just
Speaker 1: shows you the guy's got some flexibility in his lower body,
Speaker 1: and I think that's really important to play in the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Twenty sixteen tape was outstanding. Twenty seventeen tape
Speaker 1: not as much, but you had some injuries mixed in there.
Speaker 1: But just the player, the talent to tape he put together.
Speaker 1: That's that's an awesome value at number fifty that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys got there. So now we have Tampa Bay and
Speaker 1: the pick is in. We'll have the pick when pick
Speaker 1: number fifty three comes in for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: So far in this draft, Tampa Bay has taken Vita
Speaker 1: Veya from Washington to play nose tackle, and they've taken
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones the running back. Jeez, this is their third
Speaker 1: pick in this draft and may have a bay is
Speaker 1: kind of that's it. That's not bad. I mentioned something
Speaker 1: real quick. You may uh so, Noral Thomas, Yeah, is
Speaker 1: coming gone? Is it? I'll take Connor Williams Well, I say,
Speaker 1: time to write that off though, worthless. Jerry Jones, Jerry,
Speaker 1: they do have the war room. Camps still open for us,
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a smissing somebody. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: it's emptied out in there. They're making a barbecue running
Speaker 1: and I'm happy to see Jerry Jones sitting right there
Speaker 1: in the middle of Steven and Jason Garrett and Jerry Junior.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what though, and Will McClay. They
Speaker 1: should be proud the way they the way they operated
Speaker 1: that one. All right, here's the Buccaneers on the clock. Two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh love it. Love of that player, Love that pick.
Speaker 1: Katie tell us about MP Stewart from North Carolina. Smart
Speaker 1: player would probably have to be better off, you know,
Speaker 1: inside in the slot, but you just never really seem
Speaker 1: get beat. He's a guy who has really good instincts.
Speaker 1: He's he reminds me in a different way of Golden
Speaker 1: and just like their instincts now fast they play, they
Speaker 1: kind of make up for maybe a little bit below
Speaker 1: average speed, a little bit of quickness, but they're just
Speaker 1: so good at seeing things quickly and getting in the
Speaker 1: mix and making a play. He's just a really, really
Speaker 1: good football player. We also for you, guys, now we
Speaker 1: have we get this for every draft pick, but the
Speaker 1: audio when the players get called by Jerry, by coach Garrett,
Speaker 1: by everybody there in the war room. We have the
Speaker 1: secret audio for you. This is Connor Williams from the
Speaker 1: University of Texas. We'll have that for you later. We'll
Speaker 1: have secret audio for you later. We will have it.
Speaker 1: It is going to exist, and we'll have it for
Speaker 1: you later. But so MJ. Stewart the last guy picked
Speaker 1: by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which means we are on
Speaker 1: the clock at number fifty four in this draft, and
Speaker 1: that will be the Oakland Raiders back on the clock. No,
Speaker 1: it will not sins Cincinnati Bengal. This was a trade
Speaker 1: that they meet earlier with Kansas City. I remember, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so the Cincinnati Bengals have the pick in and as
Speaker 1: soon as we have it, you will have it. Best
Speaker 1: players available going around the room. Dane, what you, well,
Speaker 1: let's just go to the podium as the pick is
Speaker 1: gonna be Cincinnati trade for that guy, like man, there
Speaker 1: you go, wait wait for safety, wake Forest free safety.
Speaker 1: We talk about how free safeties finding those prospects can
Speaker 1: be really tough these days in college football. But Jesse
Speaker 1: Bates is one of those guys that really came onto
Speaker 1: the radar and a lot of people had him as
Speaker 1: a second third round player and at free safety. He
Speaker 1: is going to be headed to the Cincinnati Bengals. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: Dame Bugler had turned me on to that guy. I
Speaker 1: think you got a good you got a good idea
Speaker 1: about the player. Well, I was watching watching him throughout
Speaker 1: the season. Is the Florida State game in October. I
Speaker 1: was watching as who the heck is this chcher soft? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's making plays up and down the field. And so
Speaker 1: that's that's the game that turned me on to him.
Speaker 1: And then h you like the tape former baseball player,
Speaker 1: former center fielder, that's exactly how he plays the free
Speaker 1: safety position. So you worry a little bit about and
Speaker 1: run support. Only two hundred pounds will he be able
Speaker 1: to hold up physically. But he's a guy that trusts
Speaker 1: what he sees, he goes and he makes plays. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, guys, I thought that to me, I
Speaker 1: thought he was really a true free safety, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the one thing I'm like you talk
Speaker 1: about the ball skills. I think he has a feel
Speaker 1: for positioning himself for tackles, plays with it, you know it,
Speaker 1: plays with his offhand, knocked the ball away. Like the
Speaker 1: way he carries himself. He's not afraid to step up
Speaker 1: and make a play. He's always around the ball, can
Speaker 1: play up back. But I'd like to see him a
Speaker 1: little bit more at single high look, you know again
Speaker 1: because of the maybe a little bit a bit of
Speaker 1: the speed. But it looks like the Carolina Panthers are
Speaker 1: on the clock here at the podium at two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those offensive lineman drop a lot of weight. When it's
Speaker 1: all said done, Carolina Panthers their selection. Somebody wants an
Speaker 1: LSU player. Here we go. We got an LSU players
Speaker 1: off the board, right, and he's going to Carolina. And
Speaker 1: I tell you the first who would have guessed before
Speaker 1: Chark or guys Jackson, who wins in a foot race?
Speaker 1: Done Jackson or DJ Chark or a cheetah? Oh, or
Speaker 1: a cheeta. I'll take Dante. You'll take Dante Jackson four
Speaker 1: to three guys, He's let it run fast. He's one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five pounds, so he's later. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: if you add ten more yards, Chark might get him
Speaker 1: with strides. Jeff, do you have this guy Dante Jackson?
Speaker 1: Let me get to the notes on Dante Jackson. I
Speaker 1: know I had him as a second or third round player.
Speaker 1: Really twitched up really yeah. Yeah, and when you can fly,
Speaker 1: there's always value to that. Mean, that was part of
Speaker 1: what we really liked about Anthony Brown. When you watch
Speaker 1: guys on the outside and the goal is so many
Speaker 1: times you just run across the field from a dB,
Speaker 1: and that's hard to cover. When you have that type
Speaker 1: of athleticism, you can recover. You'll take false steps, but
Speaker 1: when you have the makeup speed, uh, it really helps
Speaker 1: you as a dB. So I've seen Dante Jackson get
Speaker 1: bullied a little bit against Notre Dame. But he's a
Speaker 1: guy that's five to eleven. He's played it probably one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five pounds, so he doesn't have the
Speaker 1: big body, but he's just got he's got incredible makeup speed,
Speaker 1: the movement skills. Can get a little grabby, but he can.
Speaker 1: He can flip the hips quickly, changes direction effortlessly, stays
Speaker 1: in the pocket with anybody. If he doesn't get pushed off,
Speaker 1: he'll play press man. My biggest knock on would be
Speaker 1: just getting moved around by receivers, and that happens when
Speaker 1: you're one hundred and seventy five hundred and eighty pounds.
Speaker 1: But that speed, the ability to cover, he's he's a
Speaker 1: good one. He's gonna be a good one. Quick question
Speaker 1: about the whole race. Are we taking into account that
Speaker 1: the cheetah, the humans are are are not in the
Speaker 1: food chain, so cheetah is not going to attempt I'm
Speaker 1: going to run, Cheetah. It's just gonna run. It's just
Speaker 1: gonna run. Yeah, give me the cheetah. Okay, what that's
Speaker 1: what you get with Katie and Kevin. What if it's
Speaker 1: twenty there they are running twenty and the cheetah runs forty.
Speaker 1: Give me Dante Jackson Okay, oh no, and then charker
Speaker 1: Cheetah take the cat, and second take the cat. Always
Speaker 1: take the cat. What if it's an LSU tiger chasing
Speaker 1: hey Mike, Mike the seventh. He's a growing boy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the Patriots are on the clock. Uh there it's
Speaker 1: down two pick number fifties three usually day three is
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get too many picks left. We just got
Speaker 1: part Williams. You're feeling good. Dane is now giving you
Speaker 1: the side eye for like going into the cheetah talk
Speaker 1: with the Cheetahs. I worked with a bunch of clowns.
Speaker 1: He did bring up the cheetah. It was his move.
Speaker 1: I emphasize the speed Dan. Dane's gonna have the draft
Speaker 1: meeting like the players do, and they play this tape
Speaker 1: for him like this is this is who you associated.
Speaker 1: It was clearly Dante Jackson verse d J. Chark though
Speaker 1: until Dane threw the Cheetah in there. But real quick,
Speaker 1: New England, this has been passing around this picks amazing.
Speaker 1: New England is basically just in there like they're they're
Speaker 1: just making trades with people. Yeah, not taking anybody. This
Speaker 1: was La to Buffalo to Tampa Bay to New England.
Speaker 1: Does this pick? Yeah, I can't keep track of it.
Speaker 1: I'm out of space and my honestly, you're OCD like me.
Speaker 1: This sure bothers the hell out of me. I don't
Speaker 1: have any rooms to write the name of the team.
Speaker 1: It's not an NFL draft unless your trade. Unless your
Speaker 1: sheets look like just margin you re you redo them.
Speaker 1: Is what you do at the end of it, when
Speaker 1: it's all said you and you go back and make
Speaker 1: a nice copy of it. But now you just if
Speaker 1: anybody's at the Lincoln Place at the Star, that's where
Speaker 1: I left my sheet. So you have a great piece
Speaker 1: of graft memorabilia with the first round picks written on him.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm glad I didn't give you anything really responsible, ye,
Speaker 1: so enjoy that. It's a nice piece of memorabilia. Patriots
Speaker 1: on the clock. The pick is in in round two,
Speaker 1: pick number fifty six of the twenty eighteen NFL and
Speaker 1: which this is. I think this is It's a great
Speaker 1: part about covering the Cowboys. I feel like not all
Speaker 1: NFL teams have media members from all over the world
Speaker 1: weighing in on them. Oh yeah, so Albert Albert Breer
Speaker 1: from Sports Illustrator, who used to cover the Cowboys. He says,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a fun storyline, but the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: never taking Dallas Goddard, which we said. He said, the
Speaker 1: choice was which this is? This would be why Chris
Speaker 1: Richard and Rod Marinelli were in the room. It was
Speaker 1: between Connor Williams and Stanford's Justin Reid Eric Eric's little brothers.
Speaker 1: So interesting thought. And we know they need a safety.
Speaker 1: So I feel like that that might have killed the
Speaker 1: earl Thomas talk. Okay, then if that's the case, then
Speaker 1: they've got two safeties on their board that they're that
Speaker 1: they're in love with tar various more more has to
Speaker 1: be one of them, and then Read would be the other. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so maybe okay, now up to get read now depending
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you've got the screens down in the
Speaker 1: war room. Fourth, get you up to about seventy in
Speaker 1: that range, get you about eleven. May well, you gotta
Speaker 1: it's kind of like in the first in the second round,
Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta sweat out the first six or
Speaker 1: seven picks of the third. But if you if he's
Speaker 1: still there, I mean if and like I said, that
Speaker 1: is that is not usual to have defensively two different
Speaker 1: coaching groups in the room at the same time. So
Speaker 1: I don't know that's something to watch, all right, So
Speaker 1: we're waiting on the Patriots selection. Here at number fifty
Speaker 1: six overall in the twenty eighteen NFL Draft, do we
Speaker 1: have any Well, we're at the podium here, here we go.
Speaker 1: What up? Do? What up? Do? Sure? All right? All right?
Speaker 1: Here had some more tiny corners. You're going one of
Speaker 1: the it's the it's the tough physical corners. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: little bit undersize good play. That's what Duke Dawson is
Speaker 1: at the University of Florida, and he's going to be
Speaker 1: a New England Patriot under five foot eleven, but a
Speaker 1: guy that could play the nickel for you, a guy
Speaker 1: that is super competitive, not afraid of the contact, can
Speaker 1: cover like it. I like him. Duke Dawson is a
Speaker 1: good one. New England being off the clock means that
Speaker 1: at number fifty seven overall in the NFL Draft, we
Speaker 1: are waiting on the Oakland Raiders. And this pick came
Speaker 1: from this Tennessee Titans say, this is where Oakland traded
Speaker 1: back to. Yeah, so Oakland will be picking here. It
Speaker 1: used to be Tennessee's pick. And let's go around for
Speaker 1: our sheet to see what we think the Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: might have. It feels like every time the Oakland comes
Speaker 1: up on the clock that they just trade out of
Speaker 1: the pick. Well, they got Colton Miller, they don't need
Speaker 1: any more play great shape. Oh they gotta pick it's in.
Speaker 1: Oh it's about time though. That's good. That is good
Speaker 1: to know. Let's take a look at our boards here
Speaker 1: and try to figure out who are some of the
Speaker 1: best players still left that they could target. If you
Speaker 1: were the Oakland Raiders, tell you what both of their
Speaker 1: top running backs are going to be thirty by the
Speaker 1: end of the year. If Darius Guys has enough value
Speaker 1: for you here, he has enough value for me. Let's
Speaker 1: had value for about a round, about a round and
Speaker 1: a quarter. So yes, let's see what the Raiders are
Speaker 1: gonna do. It looks like they are on their way
Speaker 1: to the podium for pick number fifty seven. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: will be, this will be. This would be funny. Willie
Speaker 1: Brown will have a happy Mother's Day games absolutely right,
Speaker 1: give it to him, Willie give me the lets. I
Speaker 1: think the league might rethink this, No, I think right
Speaker 1: down the road. There you go, the first non combine
Speaker 1: invite to be drafted. Little Sam Houston State Action PJ
Speaker 1: Hall going to the Oakland Raiders. Dane tell us about
Speaker 1: p J. Hall. You want to talk about production, I mean,
Speaker 1: he has remarkable production at the FCS level. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pull up these numbers. They're just unbelievable what he did
Speaker 1: at the FCF level. Four year starter in fifty five starts,
Speaker 1: eighty six and a half tackles for loss. Okay, eighty
Speaker 1: six and a half, forty two sacks, nine forced fumbles,
Speaker 1: thirty three passes defended and then blocked kit blocked kicks
Speaker 1: on special teams fourteen ridiculous numbers for this guy. And
Speaker 1: so he's his build is a little bit different for
Speaker 1: a guy that's six foot three hundred and eight pounds,
Speaker 1: and they played him differently. You know, he played outside,
Speaker 1: he would play stand up at three hundred pounds, and
Speaker 1: so he can push the pocket. I actually thought the
Speaker 1: motor was a little bit inconsistent. But he's a little
Speaker 1: bit of short guy, short arms, played a little bit
Speaker 1: out of position. But what you're saying that production, holy
Speaker 1: cap And when the pro day numbers. Yeah, at three
Speaker 1: hundred eight pounds, four seven six forty yard dash one
Speaker 1: six six ten yard thirty eight vert thirty six on
Speaker 1: the bench, he needs technical refinement for sure. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the problem. I think he's got really good
Speaker 1: initial quickness. I captured the edge. I would like to
Speaker 1: see what you're talking about, Jeff. He needs get rid
Speaker 1: of the blocker a little quicker. They can wash him up.
Speaker 1: The field needs to play this hands little bit better.
Speaker 1: He'll hustle and make a tackle. He's got some power
Speaker 1: in that body though, to hit the gap and go.
Speaker 1: But you know, when he's on the move, that's where
Speaker 1: I think he plays the best. You know, and you're
Speaker 1: watching film, You're watching Houston Baptist, Houston Baptist and Carnate Word,
Speaker 1: and you know people like that. But I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: he you're the right. The production is there, and but
Speaker 1: he's going to need a lot of technique work there
Speaker 1: when he gets to the Oakland Raiders. Maybe my favorite
Speaker 1: thing about the modern NFL draft is that it seems
Speaker 1: like the entire league, meaning players, is following along with
Speaker 1: this the same way we are. Zeke Elliott just tweeted
Speaker 1: at Connor Williams and said, let's go get our rushing
Speaker 1: title back. I like the sound of that. Our rushing
Speaker 1: title pretty great. Okay, not like, but there's no connection there?
Speaker 1: Well there will be, Okay, Okay next year. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: just go get it all right. Now, let's hit it.
Speaker 1: We have the secret audio of the Connor Williams pick
Speaker 1: the University of Texas tackle selected by the Cowboys, number
Speaker 1: fifty overall. Let's hear him on the phone finding out
Speaker 1: that he's a cowboy. Yeah, got somebody wants to talk
Speaker 1: to you, Dallas Cowboys. Hold on, we have it's played
Speaker 1: over the year, so we have the a lot of Falcons.
Speaker 1: The pick is in Cowboys yesterday. Yeah, that's their only
Speaker 1: pick so far, right as Calvin Ridley has been picked
Speaker 1: there by the Falcons, so other needs a little bit
Speaker 1: all over the place. Let you look at defense, you Phillips,
Speaker 1: you're looking for a big defense. Make a lot of
Speaker 1: sense here. That would make a lot of sense here.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the top rated D tackle I think
Speaker 1: on a lot of boards at this point, if we're
Speaker 1: not counting Maury's Hurst, Nathan Shepherd, and then some of
Speaker 1: the other nose tackles that I know, some of us
Speaker 1: like Dedrin Senat Derek Noddy from Florida State. So let's
Speaker 1: see they kept breaking into Shepherd. Yeah. I was staying
Speaker 1: there thinking about him. He's one of my is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite guys. Anybody surprised Mason Rudolph still on
Speaker 1: the board. No, yeah, no, I watched him. No, I
Speaker 1: watched him play. He's not a very good player. So
Speaker 1: now I'm with you. I'm a surprised because I know
Speaker 1: how the NFL. No, you're right, And if Kyle Aletta
Speaker 1: or Mike White goes before Mason Rudolph, I wouldn't be shocked. No,
Speaker 1: I don't wouldn't be shocked. They should absolutely, So we're
Speaker 1: waiting on the Atlanta Falcons pick there at number fifty eight.
Speaker 1: The order behind them. We'll be waiting on the Washington Redskins,
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Minnesota Vikings, the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the Cleveland Browns will round out
Speaker 1: the second round before we get geared up for the
Speaker 1: third round. Here go, we are at the podium, Michael Vick,
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, They're all taking their shots. Huh. Go. I
Speaker 1: think he was pretty high for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I say, Oliver Colorado, you had if I remember right,
Speaker 1: he had the ball production. But you're talking about a
Speaker 1: guy with the size, You're talking about the length and
Speaker 1: how did he test it the combine? Was he a
Speaker 1: speed guy too, sah okay, but the length? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he didn't have great uh ball skills in terms of interceptions,
Speaker 1: only two I believe over his career. But a guy
Speaker 1: that's always seemed to be in arms length. And when
Speaker 1: we watched Woozier and Witherspoon and Tedrick Thompson does Colorado
Speaker 1: DB's last year, it was twenty six that flashed as
Speaker 1: a sophomore this past year at a solid year uh
Speaker 1: and I believe it was Michael Gallop. They don't have
Speaker 1: to show the highlightskins Galliston Gallops quarterback is struggling to
Speaker 1: get the ball out on time. Michael gallowise he would
Speaker 1: he would destroy him. Hey, respect, respect is deserved because
Speaker 1: he called Gallop called the corner Colorado corner the best
Speaker 1: corner he faced all year. So okay, we now have
Speaker 1: a special guest that's going to be joining us the
Speaker 1: fiftieth overall pick in the NFL draft, and your newest
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy, Connor Williams, is with us. How you doing, Connor?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Thank you for having me. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm blown away. I'm on cloud nine right now,
Speaker 1: What was it like when you heard that phone ring
Speaker 1: and it's Jerry Jones telling you you're gonna be a
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy? I mean, it was it. I mean it
Speaker 1: was incredible. My area coaching nine seventy two and I
Speaker 1: saw a nine seventy two number, and so at first
Speaker 1: wasn't sure, and then got on the phone with him,
Speaker 1: and I mean just blown away and shocked and having
Speaker 1: my family around, just instant tears from everyone. Yeah, and Connor,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. I mean, obviously you're
Speaker 1: he lived right down the road in Capel. Obviously be
Speaker 1: thrilled to pick anywhere, be picked by anybody, but I
Speaker 1: mean the hometown team. What's the relationship been like with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys during this process? And other than you know,
Speaker 1: being from Dallas, did you have any inkling that this
Speaker 1: might be where you wound up? Of course with their
Speaker 1: think going on and when asked this, if you have
Speaker 1: a favorite team, I've grown up in Dallas. I mean,
Speaker 1: of course I was Dallas Cowboys fan. But you can't
Speaker 1: pick favorites. But I mean I've I've been born and
Speaker 1: raised a Dallas Cowboys fan, and I was fortunate enough
Speaker 1: to be able to attend a local prodey or the
Speaker 1: local day um at the Star, and I went with
Speaker 1: the O line coach, and I worked with O line
Speaker 1: coach and formed a good relationship and didn't hear much
Speaker 1: from then, and so once I got that number, it
Speaker 1: was a complete shock and a pleasant shock at that. Connor,
Speaker 1: I know, being from this area, though you're probably pretty
Speaker 1: familiar with now your new teammates, that's you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to go into the huddle with and look at. Any
Speaker 1: thoughts about guys like Zack Martin and Travis Frederick and
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith, You're gonna be h're gonna be kind of
Speaker 1: looking to you and you're looking to them. Any thoughts
Speaker 1: about those guys you're about to play with. I am,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm stoked because the Dallas O lin has been
Speaker 1: the backbone of O line in the league for years.
Speaker 1: And being able to learning from Travis and Tyron and Zach,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's incredible. And U I mean,
Speaker 1: whenever I'm asked what's my favorite olnan in the league,
Speaker 1: I love watching Tyrant. He's an amazing, amazing player, and
Speaker 1: so to be able to learn from them and learn
Speaker 1: how to be a pro every day. I'm just so excited. Yeah, Connor.
Speaker 1: On the NFL Network, on the screen it says tackle
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, but at the podium they said guard Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: What is Connor Williams a guard or a tackle? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm coming in wherever the coach needs me, wherever if
Speaker 1: he's right tackle, right guard, wherever he needs me. And
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not anything. I am what he wants me
Speaker 1: to become. So I saw that Zekiel Elliott has already
Speaker 1: reached out to you on the Twitter to say that
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys are coming for the rushing title. This
Speaker 1: team likes to run the football. How much fun is
Speaker 1: that for an offensive lineman to hear? I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love to be able to block
Speaker 1: for Zeke And I mean he makes you look good
Speaker 1: and you make him look good. All right, Connor will Congratulations,
Speaker 1: I'm being the newest Dallas Cowboy. Not a long trip
Speaker 1: up here to the star, so I'm sure we'll see
Speaker 1: you soon. Man. Congratulations, Yes, thank you. All right, there
Speaker 1: you go, the latest Dallas Cowboy. Connor Williams with us
Speaker 1: right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com and one oh
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Speaker 1: we will continue to monitor because one of the guys
Speaker 1: who we are shocked was still hanging around just went
Speaker 1: off the board. We'll talk about that next. You're listening
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Speaker 1: Our coverage of the NFL Draft continues here on Dallas
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Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, alongside Dame Bruglar Bryant, brought us David Hellman
Speaker 1: and Kevin Turner. As we can recap some of the
Speaker 1: last few picks in case you've missed any. Connor Williams
Speaker 1: is the Cowboys selection at number fifty to complete that
Speaker 1: offensive line. Anthony Miller to the Bears at fifty one.
Speaker 1: The Memphis receiver Kimoco Terre. The edge from Rutgers is
Speaker 1: an Indianapolis Colt MJ. Stewart. The corner from North Carolina
Speaker 1: is a Tampa Bay buccaneer Jesse Bates. The safety from
Speaker 1: Wake Forest is a Bengal Dante Jackson. The corner from
Speaker 1: LSU is a Panther Duke Dawson. The corner from Florida
Speaker 1: is a Patriot PJ. Hall Nose tackle Sam Houston State
Speaker 1: is a Raider Isaiah Oliver from Colorado. The corner is
Speaker 1: a Falcon. The Washington Redskins select Darius Geiss running back
Speaker 1: LSU towards the end of the second round. Whatever the
Speaker 1: reason is that he got here, I'm sure we'll find
Speaker 1: out at some point, because it ain't the tape Darius
Speaker 1: guys deserved to me long ago. It's it's all over Twitter.
Speaker 1: You can see it. I mean, you know Ian Rappaport
Speaker 1: reporting vague things about maturity issues and unreported incidents at LSU.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm welcome to eat Crowe if stuff
Speaker 1: comes out at some point in time. But I'd never
Speaker 1: heard a word about any of this until he started
Speaker 1: sliding down the draft board. And I know people who
Speaker 1: know things in Baton Rouge, That's where I'm from. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, maybe it's something, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: BS as I sit here now. But Washington just got
Speaker 1: a hell of a player at a partner. So so
Speaker 1: now you got in the NFC East. Ezekiel Elliott runs
Speaker 1: it for the Cowboys, Darius Geiss runs it for the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins, and sae Quon Barkley runs it for the
Speaker 1: New York Giants. We are going on for the last year,
Speaker 1: though we might find a new Eagle. Eagles got some
Speaker 1: picks left to make this draft too, and they need
Speaker 1: a running back now. The Pittsburgh Steelers pick has also
Speaker 1: been in. It is the wide receiver from Oklahoma State,
Speaker 1: James Washington, who I think in NFL draft circles when
Speaker 1: you study players is a really interesting evaluation. Who wants
Speaker 1: to give a go at James Washington. Katam made an
Speaker 1: interesting point how we thought they would draft in Oklahoma
Speaker 1: State offensive player, but maybe the quarterback, but they didn't.
Speaker 1: They went with the wide receiver and this makes sense.
Speaker 1: You know they traded Martavis Bryant yesterday. They went with
Speaker 1: a new deep threat, a guy that is really good
Speaker 1: going down the field, finding the football, tracking and completing
Speaker 1: the catch, strong hands. You just worry about him in
Speaker 1: a pro style system. Uh, you know, we have to
Speaker 1: learn a full route tree. That's gonna be the biggest
Speaker 1: obstacle for him. But I think the athleticism, he has
Speaker 1: enough strong hands. It's just a matter of will he
Speaker 1: be able to transition. A lot of big twelve receivers
Speaker 1: have not been able to do that. James Washington might
Speaker 1: be able to and if he does, he could be
Speaker 1: a steel At this point, still about twenty picks away
Speaker 1: from where the Cowboys would pick. Could this be the
Speaker 1: start of a wide receiver run? Oh? For sure. I
Speaker 1: mean this is jar He's not lasting much longer. Can't gallop,
Speaker 1: There's no way right Equanimbius, Saint Brown, DJ Chark, Michael Gallop,
Speaker 1: Trey Kwon Smith for me, maybe DeShawn Hamilton, and you
Speaker 1: got a bunch of the full size guys whoever you like,
Speaker 1: Simi Cobb, Javon Wims. I don't know where everybody else
Speaker 1: has those guys graded, but that's a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: that for me, belong right around this area or in
Speaker 1: the next twenty to thirty Gallop, Chark and Brown, Saint
Speaker 1: Brown for me, if you're giving me the if you're
Speaker 1: saying three receivers again, Gallop, Chart and Saint Brown would
Speaker 1: be the guys I'd go with. And so now where
Speaker 1: are we. Who do we have on the clock. It's
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and their pick will be in I believe at
Speaker 1: sixty one there, Jeff Okay, So Jacksonville's got to pick
Speaker 1: in at sixty one. There are four picks remaining in
Speaker 1: the second round before we'll roll into the third round.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and the clock pick number sixty one. We just
Speaker 1: await the pick. Let's reset the big board. Some of
Speaker 1: the best players available. Dane Brugler, I think we reset
Speaker 1: the board. We look at it and again, not including
Speaker 1: more rehearsed here with his issues going on with the heart.
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison, top player on my board safety Alabama, Harrison
Speaker 1: Phillips the defensive tackle from Stanford, Carlton Davis corner Auburn,
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard defensive end, Ohouse State, Equaminius, Saint Brown, Notre
Speaker 1: Dame wide receiver, and Tyrell Crosby tackle Oregon. And I
Speaker 1: throw Nation Nathan Sheppard in there. Uh, those was a
Speaker 1: seven players. They are all all my top forty players
Speaker 1: are gone. All of those are between forty one and fifty.
Speaker 1: And let's take it to the podium. The Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell, and it appears Mark Brunel. Yeah, we're approaching
Speaker 1: the podium. He trapped that guy in Green Bay. Great voice,
Speaker 1: I mean said he wasn't gonna last long. How about
Speaker 1: zero more picks? DJ Chark out of LSU the wide receiver,
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what if you average twenty yards
Speaker 1: a catch and you're six two sixty three, that's enough
Speaker 1: right there for a team to like to make you
Speaker 1: don't for top six year. So don't forget about the
Speaker 1: four three five forty yard dash or was it four
Speaker 1: three two? It was? Yeah, I think it was two
Speaker 1: four three two. He's something gross, absolute burner, and he's
Speaker 1: a full size guy. The NFL. If you make big plays,
Speaker 1: you score points on that drift and congratulations the NFL
Speaker 1: coming around. Three of the last seven picks have been
Speaker 1: LSU guys, So those teams will improve with one of
Speaker 1: the best universities in the nation. Am I correct about that?
Speaker 1: David quarterback? Absolutely? Shut up. Leave Danny Atling alone. But
Speaker 1: I mean it's funny. I'm and I'm not saying it's
Speaker 1: a perfect can fly. I mean that that just okay,
Speaker 1: you lost Allen Robinson and the Bears, and now you
Speaker 1: got him back, like, I mean, that's you got. That's
Speaker 1: what Blake Mortal does is he says Leonard Fournette's very
Speaker 1: happy about That's Alan Robinson will go puck the ball?
Speaker 1: Thought different obvious eight. I'm not saying it's a team
Speaker 1: that's got to come to Dallas. Here. Stay there. That's
Speaker 1: Steed Westbrook. Yeah, this is another kind of in that
Speaker 1: same vein type of receiver, except full size version. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little little bigger. So now we have the pick
Speaker 1: is going to be in for Mike Zimmer and the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. They are there at number sixty two. I
Speaker 1: want to take a chance to revisit. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: mean does that qualify as a run on receivers? We
Speaker 1: got two in a row and three in the last
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen. Not like the way the Vikings are
Speaker 1: doing things. Every time their name has coming up, they've
Speaker 1: they've just gone make the pick. N't make the pick?
Speaker 1: If Minnesota, I love you what you're doing, skull bro
Speaker 1: Keith Allard and I got kid to feel free technique
Speaker 1: galore right there. Oh, TV's furious that they're picking so fast.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh no, poorly organized? How do you feel
Speaker 1: about this? Because this is not quality. We don't have
Speaker 1: time for bits the athletic man. I will send this
Speaker 1: scouting report to Brian Broadus, who I believe is the
Speaker 1: biggest Brian O'Neill fan. Yeah, I you know what. I
Speaker 1: initially I really like this guy, and then the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl seeing him live boy, and a little bit I
Speaker 1: soured a little bit just because of the way he
Speaker 1: played with power and when people were playing against him.
Speaker 1: But this guy's are right. I mean, he was a
Speaker 1: left tackle initial quickness, He's able to mirror slide, he
Speaker 1: could do all the athletic things you want. He can
Speaker 1: get outside, keep his feet going. He stays after his block,
Speaker 1: but there's times where he'll just back. He'll overshoot his
Speaker 1: guy a little bit. Technique is outstanding though, hand's feet
Speaker 1: work well together, can keep rushers off his body and
Speaker 1: make his man move his man around the coureback kind
Speaker 1: of ease a movement on the twist and stuff. But again,
Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like that the problems that
Speaker 1: he will have is people knock him back some in
Speaker 1: past sets and he doesn't have the strength of the
Speaker 1: inside cut off that you know. Again, He's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that doesn't end up on the ground. Really
Speaker 1: good athlete though, but the game a little bit stronger.
Speaker 1: So I think that the Vikings got him a pretty
Speaker 1: good little tackle, last little a long tackle. Last time
Speaker 1: they took a tackle at a pit didn't work so well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: t J. Clemings, I got a bad foot. That was
Speaker 1: my guy too going in the draft. I liked him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am the sorry, I'm the champion of the you
Speaker 1: can wait on Receiver club? Are you? But are I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not worried champion is about to retire. I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about it. But are you paranoid about the names
Speaker 1: coming off the board at receiver right? Not? If the
Speaker 1: NFL continues to not like Michael Gallup as much as
Speaker 1: I do, I'll just wait it out. At eighty one,
Speaker 1: I see trey Quan Smith, I see Derees Fountain, I
Speaker 1: see Ze Brown, Sat Equanimius, Saint Brown, Michael Gallup. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not worried about this yet. Now, if Saint
Speaker 1: Brown or or Gallup come off the board sometime in
Speaker 1: the near future, then I'm a little worried then. But
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are still okay, Yes, because it
Speaker 1: sits yesterday we thought it picked seven, the Buccaneers would
Speaker 1: take Derwin James, right, Yeah, we all kind of locked
Speaker 1: in on that, right, the NFL community as a whole
Speaker 1: was pretty locked in on We did Via, then they
Speaker 1: did Ronald Jones, and then they did him j Stewart.
Speaker 1: Could safety be a place to go? Justin Reid's still
Speaker 1: on the board. Yeah, more still on the board. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you our offensive line if you want to go.
Speaker 1: Tyrell Crosby's on the board, and I think I think
Speaker 1: that he is a guy that deserves to go here,
Speaker 1: if not earlier. But yeah, you still got good players
Speaker 1: on the board. I'd tell you from a cowboy perspective
Speaker 1: is I'm looking at the board. We're watching the wide
Speaker 1: receivers kind of get picked off one by one. But
Speaker 1: one of the spots where you're still looking really good
Speaker 1: is if this team's willing to take their one technique. Yeah,
Speaker 1: third round, you've got Harrison Phillips, Dedrin Senat, Derek Noddy, Faticasi,
Speaker 1: Settle B. J. Hill, Yeah, Poona Ford, you got a
Speaker 1: lot of in Cincinnati. That's just my pick, and that's
Speaker 1: he may be a little bit later down the road.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you've got some guys that once you
Speaker 1: start making your way to eighty one, there are some
Speaker 1: guys still worthy of that pick. You've got edge players
Speaker 1: still worthy of a pick pretty soon. I know, I'm
Speaker 1: surprised we haven't seen the pass rusher run. Uh with
Speaker 1: sweat oun quo. Uh. You know all these just a
Speaker 1: straight carter and sweater, straight measurable picks through like that
Speaker 1: was one would make men love those guys, you know,
Speaker 1: being a pass rushers, you think that they'd be overdrafted.
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm a little surprised we haven't seen
Speaker 1: a run on some of these pass rushers. I'm proud
Speaker 1: of the NFL for not just we're not just drafting
Speaker 1: combine numbers just yet. Hold off, well, what time they
Speaker 1: drafted combine numbers. The worst player of the bunch, Terrell
Speaker 1: Edmonds can play. I'll fight every one of you, Terrell Edmonds,
Speaker 1: even though when I was watching Dan but he can play.
Speaker 1: But he can play. It's a tree. Have a trade yeah,
Speaker 1: Pikes in, so yeah Brown trade out. That thing goes
Speaker 1: to the Colts where at the point of where if
Speaker 1: it's offensive lineman or a cornerback or high five in
Speaker 1: here in the metroplex. Yeah, the guys who can go
Speaker 1: off the board that you likely won't also snatch up
Speaker 1: the linebackers. I know you may want another one later, Katie,
Speaker 1: Do you still want Shaq Griffin with a third round
Speaker 1: pick even though? Okay, so yes, that's a yes. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this though, and again, Ronde Barber at
Speaker 1: the podium for the Buccaneers, it could be Tiki. There
Speaker 1: you go. Now there is an Oh that's gonna be
Speaker 1: the second cornerback taken by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They
Speaker 1: took MJ. Stewart. Now they're gonna take Carlton Davis. So
Speaker 1: Stewart probably a nickel guy. Carlton Davis is your full
Speaker 1: size outside physical press man. This Auburn. I like this
Speaker 1: guy a lot. Dane. You passing the eye test, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what he does. Size, athleticism. Uh, he needs
Speaker 1: technique work. A lot of times he finds himself off balance.
Speaker 1: But you're just you're drafting the measurables here, just the
Speaker 1: raw skill. I think there's a lot to like here.
Speaker 1: Ball skills need to get better, but they just don't
Speaker 1: make many athletes that can move like that at that size,
Speaker 1: they can play the corner position. This guy didn't give
Speaker 1: any ground. You watch him play. I mean a long guy,
Speaker 1: they just can stay with him. He's got range, the
Speaker 1: quickness to body control. I mean for a big, rangy guy.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that he could just turn. He
Speaker 1: could open turn, run physical, a little separation a game,
Speaker 1: but I mean he could deny his guy. I liked him.
Speaker 1: I like Duke Dawson, but I like this guy better
Speaker 1: than Duke Dawson. You know that was picked earlier. M J.
Speaker 1: Stewart and Carlton Davis to the Bucks and that division
Speaker 1: where you now have Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley and Mohammed Sanu.
Speaker 1: You got the Saints and what they're running out there.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Dez Bryant at the end of that. Maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a sucker for win a team like
Speaker 1: the you know, the Cowboys last year just went dB heavy.
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, after the Panthers let go
Speaker 1: of Josh Norman, they drafted like seven cornerbacks. I love
Speaker 1: it when a team is just like, we're gonna fix
Speaker 1: this today. We're gonna take care of this problem, right,
Speaker 1: now I just I love it all right. The final
Speaker 1: pick in the second round belongs to the Indianapolis Colts
Speaker 1: that has picked sixty four overall and they are on
Speaker 1: their way to the podium. We got Roger Goodell with
Speaker 1: the card in hand, Indianapolis Colts Round two pick sixty
Speaker 1: four overall the end of the second round. Not a
Speaker 1: bad player, great player, be everything, nation, gbag nation, a
Speaker 1: good one, Okay. Ty Lewis goes about four rounds. That
Speaker 1: feels kind of high for him. High. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a ten year pro. He'll probably never make a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: But you know exactly what you're getting with him. He's
Speaker 1: stout against a run. He's gonna push great push off
Speaker 1: the edge. You can play him inside on third downs.
Speaker 1: He's just a solid player. Again, might not ever make
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl. Did you just describe Tyrone Crawford's kind
Speaker 1: of what's kind of what it sounds like you describe
Speaker 1: which good play, solid Day two player, good player, not
Speaker 1: earned himself an extension? Yeah, No, you're right. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I'm looking at me and it says lines up
Speaker 1: all over in the rushman package. Knows outside. Nothing about
Speaker 1: him stands out, just a really okay player. He's just
Speaker 1: he's just got enough to be a solid player. Taykwon Lewis,
Speaker 1: So we shall see. He's number sixty four. And now
Speaker 1: we are preparing for the third round. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders that are gonna kick off the third round.
Speaker 1: Sixty fifth overall. They have picked Colton Miller and PJ
Speaker 1: Hall to this point, so that's one guy that can't
Speaker 1: play and one guy from sam Houston State for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: They are on the clock. It's sixty five overall. And
Speaker 1: as we go to the third round, we have a
Speaker 1: couple of couple of players that we were often mocked
Speaker 1: in the first round still available, Lorenzo Carter from Georgia
Speaker 1: and Mason Rudolph Oklahoma State. And I just feel like,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just it makes sense, you know, if
Speaker 1: the world makes sense again, neither of those two players
Speaker 1: made sense in the first round and they didn't even
Speaker 1: go in the second round. So I feel feel a
Speaker 1: little bit better. And for the sake of that other
Speaker 1: first round type of players still on the board. Murice
Speaker 1: Hurst from Michigan, that could be bad. I want Dane,
Speaker 1: did you have Taekwon Lewis ahead of Sam Hubbard. No, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I've got the wrong Ohio State guy coming
Speaker 1: off the board here, But we got more picks to go,
Speaker 1: and somebody's gonna end up picking the better players when
Speaker 1: they end up on the clock. It's gonna be great. Okay,
Speaker 1: So eighty one where the cowboys are? If you wanted
Speaker 1: to take pick one sixteen get I'm saying, if we're
Speaker 1: getting excited about something here, who are you moving up for? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, let me tell you where I can
Speaker 1: get Okay, okay, we can get to you know, seventy
Speaker 1: sixty nine seventy that's kind of the range there. I
Speaker 1: don't have a feeling who I'm moving up for. Do
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to get up to get
Speaker 1: trevarious more? I don't know about a tight end. You're
Speaker 1: interested in Mark Andrews? You interested in me and Thomas
Speaker 1: one of those guys and Thomas? I I would sit
Speaker 1: and wait, I would too, Mark Andrews more than me
Speaker 1: and Thomas, Sir. He doesn't block for this offense. He
Speaker 1: blocks a little bit. He guys are They lined him
Speaker 1: up in line in the Georgia game and he was
Speaker 1: willing to block. I don't think he cares about blocking
Speaker 1: at all. I'm confusing, plus is just sicky, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: am I crazy? And I mean there's a lot of
Speaker 1: picks until we get to eighty one. But safety feels
Speaker 1: like the play for me, just based on the fact
Speaker 1: that I hope, do you make a move for read
Speaker 1: maybe I mean if he falls, if that, if if
Speaker 1: Albert Brewers, and that's what Chris Richard was in there
Speaker 1: to talk about. If he continues to fall, I make
Speaker 1: a move, or we know they liked their various more
Speaker 1: third round sounds like a good range for him, and
Speaker 1: then I don't have a reason to think that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys love him. But Ronnie Harrison's a pretty damn good
Speaker 1: value at eighty one in my opinion. According to Mike
Speaker 1: Mayock's Top one hundred, he is at number thirty four
Speaker 1: right now. Mason Rudolph would be at thirty seven. You
Speaker 1: talk about it first at forty two, but again we've
Speaker 1: documented Hurst. I think you just have to take him
Speaker 1: out of the play. Shepherd is very interesting to me.
Speaker 1: The Fort Hayes defensive tackle three fifteen pounds. You know
Speaker 1: someone has got I mean, they're gonna get incredible value
Speaker 1: with that guy. I hate to use that. Phillips is
Speaker 1: another guy there, naughty. He's got all those defensive tackles
Speaker 1: in that spot together, and I don't disagree with him.
Speaker 1: Right there, there's some good tackles. I mean, we talked
Speaker 1: about those one technique guys. Yeah, this might be the
Speaker 1: This might be the round where we see some of
Speaker 1: those quick bites. So not. I just I watched his
Speaker 1: and I'm like my guys, she's in the backfield every
Speaker 1: single time. My favorite players in the draft. So third,
Speaker 1: third round, there's gonna be some value here. Get ready,
Speaker 1: Raiders are at the podium. I love the Raiders. WHOA
Speaker 1: North Carolina A and T tack Parker Colton Miller and Parker.
Speaker 1: Brandon Parker from North Carolina A and T. Dane scouting
Speaker 1: report on our small school. Wait a minute, is this
Speaker 1: tart Cohen school? He blocked for Tree? Oh? I like him? Then,
Speaker 1: I bet he did a great job. I bet he
Speaker 1: hated twet Cohen Like man, I was blocking over here
Speaker 1: and you ran six directions? What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Brandon Parker hit us with it? Uh, four year starter,
Speaker 1: A guy who played left tackles, saw a lot of
Speaker 1: action he has. He might have the longest legs of
Speaker 1: any player I've ever evaluated, and so that causes him
Speaker 1: to play high a lot high hips and he'll get
Speaker 1: himself in trouble. And that's the biggest worry I have
Speaker 1: with him, is why I him a fifth round grade.
Speaker 1: I was not high on Brandon Parker. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna have trouble against NFL pass rushers. But hey, the
Speaker 1: Raiders went with Colton Miller and Brandon Parker. Two traits guys.
Speaker 1: Brandon Parker six eight, three hundred and five pounds, thirty
Speaker 1: five inch arms. It's interesting picks for tackle, you know what.
Speaker 1: I the two tackles that Dave Da've gone. And this
Speaker 1: reminds me very much of Raiders of old. This reminds
Speaker 1: me of Al Davis being on the clock and doing
Speaker 1: things like that. And I just, I mean, yeah, I'm Dane.
Speaker 1: I had a fifth round guy here, and but he
Speaker 1: plays really so st right legged. Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: just you watch to you know, and but you know
Speaker 1: he can bull this guy when he gets into him.
Speaker 1: But I just I just feel like there's just not
Speaker 1: a lot of power. He's kind of a soft punch guy,
Speaker 1: and he has problems with his balance. I think if
Speaker 1: you're a tackle, you got to be able to have
Speaker 1: some balance, and you know, he just doesn't have that.
Speaker 1: His arm lenked is what saves him. His arm lenked
Speaker 1: will keep rushers off him. But when they get to him, though,
Speaker 1: that's and that's when the power and the punch and
Speaker 1: all that stuff that's a little bit of a problem.
Speaker 1: It's the New York Giants on the clock now, and
Speaker 1: so far in the draft they've got sae Quon Barkley
Speaker 1: and they've gotten Will Hernandez, so they're off to a
Speaker 1: really good start if they're gonna try to run the ball.
Speaker 1: I really, you know, I said last night, and I
Speaker 1: still I'm not convinced sae Quon Barkley is the right
Speaker 1: pick for them in the long run, but adding Will
Speaker 1: Hernandez to that equation makes me like it a hell
Speaker 1: of a lot better if I mean, I think that'll
Speaker 1: be a something that Joe Banner tweeted yesterday at the
Speaker 1: is a spot on The Giants are gonna love the
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley pick the next two years, and then in
Speaker 1: year three they're gonna be like, ah, we should have
Speaker 1: took the quarterback exactly, but they're gonna love the next
Speaker 1: two years. If you're if you're the Giants here and
Speaker 1: the pick is in but we don't have it yet,
Speaker 1: would you double down on that offensive line and spend
Speaker 1: the biggest problem Tyrell Crosby, the organ tackle is here.
Speaker 1: I would just go ahead and turn that card in
Speaker 1: the Giants that they have the left tackle figured out,
Speaker 1: in the center figured out right. That's it, and so
Speaker 1: will Hernandez will answer one of the guard questions. You
Speaker 1: still have issues at right tackle and whatever guard, whatever
Speaker 1: other guard positions. So yeah, Tyroll Crosby, I think at
Speaker 1: this point especially is excellent value. They're also going to
Speaker 1: a three four, right, they're gonna they're gonna be a
Speaker 1: three four team, three four base yeah, So you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of different options here. Their pass rushers that
Speaker 1: we like for a three four team, yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be nice, or some base ends that we would like
Speaker 1: they're yeah, they'll have they'll have some good options here
Speaker 1: for the New York Giants, and hopefully they'll pick a
Speaker 1: terrible player that would be ideal a wide receiver, or
Speaker 1: they're gonna take Dez Bryant at some point, or are
Speaker 1: we gonna don't. I don't see Dez Bryant there. I
Speaker 1: really really don't. Okay, so I'm sure I'm seeing. We
Speaker 1: could go outside line, outside linebackers, rushers, quarterback, of course,
Speaker 1: but at this point you would just be taking another
Speaker 1: Davis Webb, wouldn't you. You're not taking the future if
Speaker 1: you're taking a guy here, maybe interior d line three
Speaker 1: four defensive ends. Their pick is in when the commissioners
Speaker 1: up there, we will know who they take, and we'll
Speaker 1: work our way closer to the Dallas Cowboys pick. The
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns are gonna pick after the Giants, then the Texans,
Speaker 1: and then the Giants again. And they are at the
Speaker 1: podium now with pick sixty six. They drafted him at
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, So weird had a cool face mask. Here
Speaker 1: we go. Oh you knew this was coming. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: mentioned going to a three four George and he's from Georgia,
Speaker 1: but we mentioned it. It's a three you're going to
Speaker 1: a three four and you're looking for pass rush. So
Speaker 1: you take Lorenzo Carter, who the way they used him
Speaker 1: at Georgia probably wasn't the best way to use a
Speaker 1: guy like him, But incredible athlete six five, two fifty.
Speaker 1: Just line him up at outside linebacker and let him
Speaker 1: rush the passer. That's what he needs to be doing well.
Speaker 1: And I think he's I want to use him. I
Speaker 1: don't want to use him just as a pass rusher though,
Speaker 1: I mean because ball, yeah, everything, because he has he
Speaker 1: has the range, the athleticism. Uh, let him drive, you know,
Speaker 1: use him as a you know, the offense doesn't know
Speaker 1: what's coming. You know, some plays. I'm gonna let him
Speaker 1: rush off the edge on some plays, let him drop us.
Speaker 1: He can do a lot of things. I think exclusively
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. I just worry about does he
Speaker 1: have the power to do that, because he's not a
Speaker 1: power guy who's going to convert that speed to power
Speaker 1: move offensive linemen, especially in the NFL. Couldn't do it
Speaker 1: at Georgia. I just I don't. He's just he's a
Speaker 1: better athlete than a polished player. And so I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: stand him up, let him play in space, let him
Speaker 1: do a little bit of everything. It might be the
Speaker 1: best thing to do with him. The Houston Texans are
Speaker 1: on the clock now, and somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: They's selective player Hello, Texans, what are your team needs?
Speaker 1: I see offensive tackle as one of them, and Tyroll
Speaker 1: Crosby's the one i'd pick. Oh, we are at the
Speaker 1: podium and it's Cleveland or no, Yeah, Cleveland's before Cleveland
Speaker 1: did a trade with the Colts. Oh, here you jump
Speaker 1: the gun, Jeffrey. I'm sorry, sir, it's okay. Just make
Speaker 1: the damn come on, Oh the music man, that'll be
Speaker 1: a reach for me. Chad Thomas of Miami Dane Brugler,
Speaker 1: what do you think a stout basse end a guy
Speaker 1: who's gonna offer some power at the point of attack.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has the juice to bend
Speaker 1: the edge on a consistent basis and win with speed.
Speaker 1: But you like the traits. This is what you're what
Speaker 1: you're drafting. Here, pack's power in his hands, he'll play
Speaker 1: the run. There's a lot to like about him. Surprised
Speaker 1: he's coming off the board ahead of a few other
Speaker 1: guys available, but understand the traits. Does this count as
Speaker 1: a run on ends for you, Dane, given that you
Speaker 1: don't love the guys that are coming off the board. Probably,
Speaker 1: but I guess you know some of the ones were
Speaker 1: still available. Sweat and oquarn quo. I'm surprised some of
Speaker 1: those guys are not coming off the Hubbard uh edge
Speaker 1: of four. So I think some better players are out there.
Speaker 1: Chet Thomas is one of the more interesting players in
Speaker 1: the draft to me because of my music nut and
Speaker 1: he could go be a music producer if he wanted to.
Speaker 1: That was a concern a lot of teams have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can you play? He played ten instruments and he's produced actual,
Speaker 1: like good music that's out there, like official, not just
Speaker 1: underground stuff like he's produced it. And if football doesn't
Speaker 1: work out, he can always go do that. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. That's I hate that about the NFL, that
Speaker 1: that's seen as a red flag, like, oh, football is
Speaker 1: the only thing you're allowed to care about. Easily, he's
Speaker 1: not allowed to release an album. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: if we're being honest, it's realistic. You're putting together fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster. You would prefer fifty three Shawn Lee cyborgs. Sure,
Speaker 1: they wake up, they football, They they go home. They football.
Speaker 1: That sounds miserable, night sound miserable. But they're gonna win podium.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no sweating, Oh there you go. There you go.
Speaker 1: They probably just sat there and took the best player
Speaker 1: available with their first pick in the draft. Texans to
Speaker 1: not have a pick in the first sixty seven, and
Speaker 1: they did. Okay, coming away with read here in the
Speaker 1: early third that that that kills our hint, our hint
Speaker 1: that we saw Chris Richard in the war room an
Speaker 1: hour ago. That was a guy they were talking about
Speaker 1: taking it fifty. He's gone at sixty eight. So back
Speaker 1: to the drawing board, back to Michael Gallop when we go,
Speaker 1: let's do it. I still I still think safety isn't
Speaker 1: is in play? Tight end is in play? Would you
Speaker 1: go safety? If it was more of a box safety?
Speaker 1: Would you go Ronnie Harrison on this football team? If
Speaker 1: he's still I wouldn't either. I don't have a reason
Speaker 1: to think that they want Ronnie Harrison. Okay, uh Golden,
Speaker 1: would you guys put Golden on this football Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is the Rashaan Golden. I know book
Speaker 1: club in here. Well, here we go Byron Jones. What's
Speaker 1: all this? He's so quick, a great time at the combine,
Speaker 1: but his instincts don't work at free safety. Golden's times
Speaker 1: not exciting, but he makes up for it because his
Speaker 1: instincts are incredible. Nickel guy, though, isn't he could he
Speaker 1: could play free safety. I'm convinced he could play free safety.
Speaker 1: He sees things faster than anyone else. I'll buy you
Speaker 1: all a milkshake if the Cowboys draft for Sean Golden,
Speaker 1: I will throw a massive pizza party. If they take
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, oh that's fine. I'll buy all the Papa
Speaker 1: Johns you guys. But I think I mean they want
Speaker 1: a center fielder if they draft the safety. Tight end
Speaker 1: is something I'm looking at New York John receiver obviously,
Speaker 1: all right, Theodah, that's one of those uh nose tackles
Speaker 1: that was on the board there. I know. I think
Speaker 1: I've mocked him to the Cowboys three times this spring.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, that NC State d line was absolute stacked
Speaker 1: and BJ Hill was a big part of it as
Speaker 1: the better defensive tackle in that group. And now we
Speaker 1: have the San Francisco forty nine ers are their pick
Speaker 1: is in and the Broncos are on the clock. We'll
Speaker 1: get those picks when we come back. You're listening to
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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers pick seventy. Their pick
Speaker 1: is in when it is announced, we will have it
Speaker 1: for you. We're waiting as pick eighty one belongs to
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and let's kick it around the room.
Speaker 1: If you guys have a short list of a dream
Speaker 1: pick at this point, because I do. I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at my second round grades that are left and Michael
Speaker 1: Gallop wide receiver, Colorado State, Nathan Shephard, d tackle Fort
Speaker 1: Hayes State, layer, Sam Hubbard, Ohio State defensive end, Duke
Speaker 1: Asgia four Wake Forest defensive end or the four I
Speaker 1: would consider. Ronnie Harrison, the Bama's safety is the second
Speaker 1: round for me. Crosby the tackle at Organs, the two
Speaker 1: Rashawn Golden at Tennessee is a two. That's all the
Speaker 1: guys I have as second rounders, and those three. I
Speaker 1: think I'd be less inclined to pick because you're talking
Speaker 1: box safety, nickel guy, and offensive tackle, and the other
Speaker 1: four probably helped his team more. And let's reset the
Speaker 1: wide receiver board real quick. Top three, Top five available
Speaker 1: on my board. Equaminius St. Brown, Notre Dame, Michael Gallant
Speaker 1: Colorado State, Trakwon Smith, UCF Dashawn Hamilton Penn State, and
Speaker 1: then Dion Kane Clemson. So those are the five wide
Speaker 1: receiver available on my board. As we get closer and
Speaker 1: closer to eighty one. Yeah, Gallop, I'd go Gallop, Saint Brown,
Speaker 1: and Smith and Cobbs would be my four. The forty
Speaker 1: nine ers at the podium, Drew Pearson opened up a
Speaker 1: can of worms. Good run, head guy right there. Today's NFL.
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to cover Fred Warner b Yu.
Speaker 1: That's a linebacker they can cover. We will not come
Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah, even on special teams. He might
Speaker 1: play offense. He's not coming off. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's gonna play offense. You'll have to force him to
Speaker 1: come off the field. Look at him carry the ball
Speaker 1: right there after what was it after an interception? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a few of us. Uh, He's just he's
Speaker 1: a really good player in coverage. You worry about point
Speaker 1: of attack, but let him play that overhanging outside line
Speaker 1: backer position. He can cover in the slot, he can
Speaker 1: cover tight ends and backs. A big fan of Fred Warners.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a nice pick for San Francisco getting
Speaker 1: some of that linebacker help with the issues going on
Speaker 1: with Ruben Foster. And speaking of linebackers, this is a
Speaker 1: start watching for Keim Griffin right now. That's a good Well.
Speaker 1: I just want to gloat and be a Homer for
Speaker 1: a second because no, no, no, no, no Cowboys talk,
Speaker 1: which okay, Josie Jewels still out there. But take a look,
Speaker 1: take a look at the board, and again, this is
Speaker 1: not a deep linebacker class. If you hadn't drafted Layton
Speaker 1: vander Esh at nineteen, how good do you feel about
Speaker 1: what what's there for you right now? If you're trying
Speaker 1: to address that problem here? On day two, Darius Leonard
Speaker 1: went sooner than you thought he would. Fred Warner just
Speaker 1: went off the board. I don't you still had Jefferson
Speaker 1: if you thought about it. You don't like Mali Christ
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? I mean, is that the podium go Broncos
Speaker 1: are on the podium at the podium. How about that?
Speaker 1: There you go. Royce Freeman, the organ running back is
Speaker 1: going to be a Denver Bronco. Their draft so far
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb in the first round, Courtland Sutton in the
Speaker 1: second round, and now Royce Freeman in the third for
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, which is going to put who is
Speaker 1: at number seventy two overalls? New York Jets are now
Speaker 1: going to be on the clock as Royce Freeman is
Speaker 1: the latest one off the board. Who wants it? Who
Speaker 1: wants the Royce? I don't anyone love him. I don't
Speaker 1: think I got him a fifth round? Yeah you love
Speaker 1: the production. I mean the guy hits set so many
Speaker 1: records in the Pac twelve. Uh, there's so much to
Speaker 1: like about him from that perspective, and just look at
Speaker 1: the resume. But what's special about him? You know, like,
Speaker 1: what does he what's his best trait? What do you
Speaker 1: like best about what he does? It's not overly quick,
Speaker 1: the power is average. He's not gonna break a lot
Speaker 1: of tackles. It's just I come away just liking him,
Speaker 1: but not loving him. And I would have a hard
Speaker 1: time turning in that pick here. But he's a very
Speaker 1: accomplished player, there's no question about that. I didn't see
Speaker 1: a home run hitter at all with this guy, and
Speaker 1: then I didn't. I didn't. He's not gonna make many cuts.
Speaker 1: He's kind of a one speed guy. I thought he was. Again,
Speaker 1: he's about terrible pass blocker. This guy is that his
Speaker 1: technique is not good. He doesn't stay in his blocks.
Speaker 1: He's a one shot guy. He didn't handle blitzwell. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you play a guy that doesn't have
Speaker 1: speed and can't pass block and brought a swell. We
Speaker 1: just took a running back there. I'm not saying they
Speaker 1: would do it, but the two running backs the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have been tied to Hines from uh In State and
Speaker 1: um Edo Smith from Southern miss Right, I don't think
Speaker 1: they'd do that here. But just because a running back
Speaker 1: just went syah see, I mean early for Edo and
Speaker 1: then I mean, if you want spot for Hines, if
Speaker 1: you want Hines, you'd probably have to take him here.
Speaker 1: But and I was just you know, we've talked about
Speaker 1: that so many times. This is such a deep running
Speaker 1: back class. It's just seems it seems awfully early to
Speaker 1: take a third running back for this team. Let's take
Speaker 1: a look around at the Cowboys people that they've shown
Speaker 1: interest in that are still available, that we think are
Speaker 1: going to be relevant at this point. What are some
Speaker 1: of those names? Nihem Hines is one of them, the
Speaker 1: running back. I don't think we're talking enough about the
Speaker 1: one techniques that are gonna be here that there's plenty
Speaker 1: still gonna be left on the board, even at Harrison
Speaker 1: Phillips not I think if we want to include naughty
Speaker 1: in that discussion, find a Cossie. I think there's plenty
Speaker 1: of one techniques in that conversation we had Jets at
Speaker 1: the podium, No love them. One of my favorite players
Speaker 1: this year. Such a great story going starting in Canada. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jets are having themselves a nice, nice draft started in Canada.
Speaker 1: You know, it took a few years off. He started
Speaker 1: as a linebacker at a high school. So much to
Speaker 1: like about what he brings now he dominates on tape,
Speaker 1: sure does. I mean there's just no Division two blockers
Speaker 1: that could handle him. And he lined up a nose tackle,
Speaker 1: lined up outside. It's a little bit of everything, and
Speaker 1: so you at the Senior Bowl is big for him.
Speaker 1: To see how he would do, and he dominated through
Speaker 1: two practices before he broke his hand. So yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: see it on the screen right now, just blowing by
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez like it's nothing. He's an older guy. Shots
Speaker 1: fired at Will Hernandez. Sorry, giants. He's just a really
Speaker 1: good player, and at this point in the third round,
Speaker 1: that's a steal. So Nathan Shepherd and Sam Darnold or
Speaker 1: the players the Jets have gotten today. They didn't have
Speaker 1: a two, did they. They trade her all their twos
Speaker 1: they go up to get Darnolds. Okay, So Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: and Nathan Shephard is their draft all so far. That
Speaker 1: puts the Miami Dolphins on the clock. They have Minka
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and Mike Gisicki, the Penn State tight end, have
Speaker 1: been their picks so far. So the Miami Dolphins on
Speaker 1: the clock at number seventy three, and that pick is
Speaker 1: in so as soon as we have it, we will
Speaker 1: let you know who they are taking. I'm I'm kind
Speaker 1: of happy, and nothing against Nathan Shephard at all, but
Speaker 1: I'm kind of happy he went off the board so
Speaker 1: Brian wouldn't get mad when the Cowboys didn't take him
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's what would have happened. You're
Speaker 1: gonna laugh at me here, but I had him over
Speaker 1: Brian the Florida defensive lineman differ in the first round.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna laugh at you, but that is surprising. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he was as a hell of a vote
Speaker 1: of confidence two. I really, I really did. I just
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of violence to that guy. You know.
Speaker 1: I give me a guy that's gonna go in there
Speaker 1: and cause problems and be strong. I think he could
Speaker 1: have played the one. I think at three hundred fifteen pounds,
Speaker 1: I think he could play the He's got those the
Speaker 1: traits for the three. So disruptive guy. I'm gonna follow
Speaker 1: his career. Mike mckegney, congratulations, my old NFL europe buddy
Speaker 1: made a good pick there, all right. So, looking at
Speaker 1: the Cowboys board or at our boards, and with cowboy
Speaker 1: relevance to it, some of the guys that they have
Speaker 1: shown interest in that are still the highest rated up
Speaker 1: guys here for us, who are we looking at? Who
Speaker 1: are our cowboy interests? Our visit? How many visits do
Speaker 1: we have left? I just think Tavaris More, there's one
Speaker 1: name that we've tagged for at eighty one for a
Speaker 1: long time. Um, so you know it's risky to sit
Speaker 1: and wait on him, but I just feel like that
Speaker 1: is something that we've kind of seen for about a
Speaker 1: week and a half now, just kind of ready to
Speaker 1: go that at eighty one, perfect value for him and
Speaker 1: get your free safety competition for him and Xavier Woods.
Speaker 1: I would say it free safety. What has worked for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys so far as sitting and waiting. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we're very patient. They really wanted late and Vanders they sat,
Speaker 1: they got him. They really wanted Connor Williams. They sat,
Speaker 1: they got him at some point, you because you wonder
Speaker 1: they don't. We don't expect them to use all ten picks,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe just why not why not throw a
Speaker 1: six rounder in there and move up a couple of
Speaker 1: spots just to get rid of one pick and you know,
Speaker 1: guarantee you get your guy. But yeah, it seems like
Speaker 1: they feel more inclined to sit put, which we'd see
Speaker 1: who falls real. I mean, I'm reading off the list guys,
Speaker 1: and not all these are thirty visits because some of
Speaker 1: them are local guys. But Derees Fountain, h Edo Smith,
Speaker 1: Niam Hines, Uh, Antonio Callaway. That's that seems way too
Speaker 1: early for for all that baggage. Michael Gallup was a
Speaker 1: private workout. I'm just telling you. I think they worked
Speaker 1: out every freaking receiver in football. Tell Um, who else?
Speaker 1: Who else? Uh? DeShawn Hand how about this one? And
Speaker 1: I promised Dan, I'm not being a homer arden Key.
Speaker 1: I took him in the sixth round. You don't draft
Speaker 1: players a drug problems. Yeah, that's a good point. Well,
Speaker 1: this team has. What about ones that showed up out
Speaker 1: of shape for the year when they were trying to
Speaker 1: go get their NFL money and they were overweight and
Speaker 1: not explosive. No, I didn't say they should. I said
Speaker 1: that he was a thirty visit and he's available, uh
Speaker 1: to to various mores out there. Tracy Walker's out there,
Speaker 1: Kaiser White, the West Virginia safety is out there. Uh,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Elliott? Who well, I mean that's so yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean that's kin your range. Give me your top
Speaker 1: available players. What's your board look like at this point? Again,
Speaker 1: marisearchs not included Ronnie Harrison, Harrison Phillips, Sam Hubbard, Equal Media,
Speaker 1: Saint Brown, Tyrell Crosby, o'karon Quill, edge rusher, Oklahoma, Rashawn
Speaker 1: Golden Tennessee, Gallup Colorado State, so not South Florida, Juicy
Speaker 1: Jewel and Orlando Brown? Would you put? Would you pick
Speaker 1: another linebacker? I think they have to double dip. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I why not? I mocked starters. I mocked that two linebackers.
Speaker 1: Linebacker they draft is a chance to start here just
Speaker 1: because of the injoying factor. And I've I've sat here
Speaker 1: and watched this Dolphins at the podium, he's announcing the thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: Jerome Baker. If there's a big Jerome Baker fan in
Speaker 1: the room, speak up, because what I saw was an
Speaker 1: athlete that I didn't think was a great football player.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna play lineback. He looks pretty running around,
Speaker 1: he's undersized, he can really run. But that number, just
Speaker 1: get the number very dirty. I didn't see a real
Speaker 1: good football player. I would have taken a chance on im,
Speaker 1: probably in the fifth m. But you know that's uh,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the third here, we're talking about top
Speaker 1: seventy five. I guess I'm not surprised because he is
Speaker 1: such a good athlete. It's an upside pick if he
Speaker 1: has a free lane to the ball carry you haven't
Speaker 1: had a lot in the NFL. Yeah, it looks pretty,
Speaker 1: it does, guy, but he's not even for a guy
Speaker 1: that's range. He's not even really accomplished in coverage. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't get it. I think there's
Speaker 1: much better linebackers available on the board. So you know, sorry, Dolphins,
Speaker 1: hopefully I'm wrong. How about take people on square? You know?
Speaker 1: How about though you know he won't do that. He
Speaker 1: won't do that, That's what I'm saying, And he can
Speaker 1: work through the trash. He'll put himself in position he
Speaker 1: didn't finish. I mean, I see a guy who plays
Speaker 1: a little light is a hard time when he has
Speaker 1: to deal with size. Effort to take on blocks is
Speaker 1: poor blockers just pushing past the hole. I didn't think
Speaker 1: he was wearing coverage. Dame was talking about that we're
Speaker 1: at the podium with the Redskins. Whoa, it sounds so
Speaker 1: mad about that podium? What does huh? I mean, man,
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. I think I liked him more
Speaker 1: than you guys did with Christian. He has really long
Speaker 1: arms and light feet just a matter and he's very young.
Speaker 1: He just needs to improve the technique and so hopefully
Speaker 1: he doesn't get pushed on the field early. But this
Speaker 1: is an upside pick. I think that you give him
Speaker 1: his offensive line coach or in Washington, Bill Callahallahan running
Speaker 1: game with that guy. Let mister Callahan get his hands
Speaker 1: on drunk Christian. I think in two years you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a starting tackle this guy play. It's funny. He
Speaker 1: lines up to the boundary side. Yeah, they flipped tackles
Speaker 1: back really yeah, yeah, anybody. Yeah, he tends to duck
Speaker 1: his head a little bit and it ends up off
Speaker 1: bounce a little narrow bass guy. I thought he really
Speaker 1: could extend on the rusher though. Tries to sit down
Speaker 1: his man, but can get walked at times. Long arms
Speaker 1: since Dame was talking about, really helps him. But you
Speaker 1: know he can he can knock people off balance. So
Speaker 1: I think that you're right. I think you like him
Speaker 1: a little bit more than I do, But you're right.
Speaker 1: An upside pick. There chiefs at the podium, right, he's
Speaker 1: a real player. Right, there's a little differently, Oh, Jeffrey,
Speaker 1: that's one of our nose tackles off the board. Derek
Speaker 1: Noddy of Florida State. If I remember right, he didn't
Speaker 1: test well to combine. But you watch him on tape
Speaker 1: and you are talking about a powerful dude that he's
Speaker 1: a force when it comes to stop in the run.
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a big She's always pick guys like this.
Speaker 1: I am a big Derek Noughty fan, you know, to
Speaker 1: be a cowboy. The Cowboys are only one out of
Speaker 1: thirty two teams, like other teams get to draft good players,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. No, that's okay. Because Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup is on the board. I'm gonna get him in
Speaker 1: the fourth round. Watch. I'm gonna be the only guy
Speaker 1: that really likes it best. I'm gonna be devastated. They're
Speaker 1: gonna take him. It's gonna be incredible. We're all gonna
Speaker 1: love it. All right, we're creeping close now the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys back that's coming back on the cloth. Could this
Speaker 1: be the quarterback? To earlish? Well? Who who'd they take
Speaker 1: last pick? Uhh? Yeah to night James Washington. Sorry, it's
Speaker 1: hard to keep it together for a minute. The Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers to pick his in and we are at the podium. Wait,
Speaker 1: so that trade with the Seattle yes, yeah, that probably
Speaker 1: kills the Earl Thomas thing not. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: we all kind of assumed it was dead, but they
Speaker 1: moved back three spots. What what do you think they
Speaker 1: got for it? Again? A former We got defensive coaches
Speaker 1: in the Cowboys war room. We did last time too.
Speaker 1: It's true. So all right, Mason Rudolph is going to
Speaker 1: hang out with James Washington, his teammate in Pittsburgh. I'm
Speaker 1: in the AFC North. I don't feel good about Baltimore
Speaker 1: getting Lamar Jackson. I feel okay about the Steelers getting
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph. I'm not too scared by that. Last time
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers drafted a big twelve quarterback, Landry Jones
Speaker 1: worked out how you kind of expect. Not a huge
Speaker 1: vote of confidence in Josh Dobbs. Huh yeah, I think
Speaker 1: weak that this sn last year and fall back on
Speaker 1: that NASA degree that he's got. You know, it looks rockets.
Speaker 1: Looks like the Bengals have the next two picks. Unless
Speaker 1: I'm off somewhere, Steeler is traded in front of Cincinnati
Speaker 1: these two picks to get the quarterback they were worried
Speaker 1: Bengals might grab Mason Rudolph discussed last night. Jeff, you
Speaker 1: brought this up. If you're a Bengals fan, don't you
Speaker 1: maybe a little tired of Andy Dalton? Yeah, yes, I
Speaker 1: would think so. But I don't know what your option
Speaker 1: is right now if you're gonna replace him. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess third round, I can take Kyle Aletto with
Speaker 1: one of these two picks. Maybe he brought us you
Speaker 1: would prefer Mike White with one. Yeah, I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of Mike White. And if you're yeah, I had Mike
Speaker 1: White in the third round, and you know Mason Rudolf
Speaker 1: and the fourth and I had let ahead of Mason Rudolf.
Speaker 1: And I agree with Dane the guy he stands there
Speaker 1: and the receivers are open, he throws it down the field.
Speaker 1: You know, I had good for him, but I just again,
Speaker 1: I just don't see a guy I would be a
Speaker 1: little bit worried about him having to make some of
Speaker 1: those tight window throws. It just gets everything's open for him.
Speaker 1: It's just way open, and and you know it's easy.
Speaker 1: I think some of the stuff that you were scared
Speaker 1: about with Baker Mayfield, you know, I trust me. I
Speaker 1: like Baker Mayfield so much more. But Mason roof, I
Speaker 1: think it's a hard read for these uh for these
Speaker 1: uh these big twelve quarterbacks. Right, guy, do you recognize
Speaker 1: the guy sitting right under the star next to mister
Speaker 1: Jones governor? Is that really? And I think that's Graig Abbott?
Speaker 1: Oh damn. Yeah, well I'll be damned not expecting that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna make the pick here. Well I'm here. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here trying to figure out what that might mean
Speaker 1: for their conversation. And it's the governor. Okay, So what's
Speaker 1: it means? If it means I don't pay attention to politics,
Speaker 1: took the University of Texas guy the last pick, that's
Speaker 1: a good point. Okay, all right, who's the local guy
Speaker 1: who taking eighty one? Chris Rochard and Roger Ellie are
Speaker 1: once again back in here, and I take a Republican.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be safety. This has got to be
Speaker 1: a safe I don't see I don't see an offense. That'say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what were you gonna be there? I think? So? Is
Speaker 1: the value? Is the value on Ronnie Harrison too much
Speaker 1: to ignore even though that's not the type of the
Speaker 1: Now there you go. You have too many strongs on
Speaker 1: you have it's you have all strong Yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: have a free Okay, But then again, how about Garrett's
Speaker 1: relationship with with Nick Saban? Yeah, but do you draft
Speaker 1: a guy you don't want because your buddies with Nick Saban?
Speaker 1: It was good to get Rolando mcclin in here, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: It's a good hey, he had a damn fine twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen seasons. Sir, he shared my favorite Cowboys ever. I
Speaker 1: would like to go fishing with Roland. Oh yeah, he
Speaker 1: knows how to fish. The opportunity ever presented, would I
Speaker 1: would give? If I could pick, like any story to do.
Speaker 1: I would want to spend a weekend fishing with Rolando McLean.
Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously he'd let me write about it.
Speaker 1: Be great. Yeah, he probably would. I'm saying, as long
Speaker 1: as he could take a glance over it, kind of
Speaker 1: proof read it. God, that sounds scary. Take a couple
Speaker 1: of things out. I mean, last time Paul Alexander was
Speaker 1: in this room, and I don't see an offensive coach.
Speaker 1: That's okay. I didn't recognize the governor, but he's not
Speaker 1: a Cowboys offensive coach. So he's well known to be uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a defense guy. I don't know anything about
Speaker 1: the governor's football background, sir, without googling. But yeah, the
Speaker 1: war room, we got Jerry talking to the governor. Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones is coming across the table. Jason Garrett is getting
Speaker 1: involved in the governor conversation or at least observing it.
Speaker 1: McClay is trying to run a draft. Well, it's like,
Speaker 1: hey guys, hey, hey, hey, hey, the annoying thing about
Speaker 1: kind of close. So what's the deal with the Texas
Speaker 1: when they when they drafted Layton vander Esh the linebackers
Speaker 1: coach here is a guy by the name of Ben
Speaker 1: Bloom actually ran into him today, given Layton a tour
Speaker 1: of the building. They didn't call him in here for
Speaker 1: that pick. And so between Chris Rochard and Rod Marinelli,
Speaker 1: you cover all three levels of the defense because Chris
Speaker 1: is the passing game coordinator and the dB coach, Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli is your pass rusher coach. So it's hard to
Speaker 1: really divine what this means other than that you're probably
Speaker 1: going defense. Let me set the scene here a little bit.
Speaker 1: There in the war room inside the Ford Center at
Speaker 1: the Star at Frisco, Chris Hall once again is on
Speaker 1: the phone. He is on the phone with Robert Blackwell,
Speaker 1: who is at at and T Stadium. He's video director
Speaker 1: representing the Cowboys, and he will hand in the card.
Speaker 1: It looks like that the Bengals selection is in, So
Speaker 1: Chris has got Blackwell queued up as soon as they
Speaker 1: get to that pick, and then he will fire it off.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the podium and the Cincinnati Beings. Hopefully
Speaker 1: they'll make two pigs. Did I say Sam Hubbard was
Speaker 1: going to go to the Cincinnati Bengals? I believe you did.
Speaker 1: Did you said Sam Hubbard is going to go to
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati because say Rangles who they're taking the first round?
Speaker 1: Make it out the pick. Let's go back to the podium. Oh,
Speaker 1: they worked him out. They did, They sure did. They
Speaker 1: were down there the workout and Austin when we were
Speaker 1: there on our Triangle tour. Yep. And so yes, Malik Jefferson,
Speaker 1: I think that's a good range for Malik Jefferson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard, this feels like he could be the best
Speaker 1: player available. MALIEK. Jefferson. This is about the spot where
Speaker 1: you take a chance on that sort of athlete and
Speaker 1: what he could be if you could get him. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say instinctually right, but read react, respond
Speaker 1: to the play, Like, if you could get that part
Speaker 1: of the game right for him, you could end up
Speaker 1: with something very good. And what we've been telling Longhorns fans, uh,
Speaker 1: you know the entire process is the third rounder. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's I think you're you're spot on. This is exactly
Speaker 1: where you take him outside of the top seventy five.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a good spot for him. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna be someone that's gonna be expected to come in
Speaker 1: from day one and be the guy, but he could
Speaker 1: develop into that. So that's pick seven, twenty seven, and
Speaker 1: seventy eight. We got seventy nine eighty and then the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, so they are three picks away. Let's sneak
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Speaker 1: That is two picks in a row. They've taken the
Speaker 1: top player on my board. All right, Connor Williams and
Speaker 1: then Michael Gallup. Let's party Michael Gallup. We get a
Speaker 1: pizza party. You do? Yeahza listen. I will figure out
Speaker 1: the date and I will invite the entire Metroplex because
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup is one of my favorite players in this draft.
Speaker 1: Talk about that is a dude that I think everybody
Speaker 1: here would say something similar. If you're looking for a weakness,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to point you to. No, he's
Speaker 1: not six foot three. No, he doesn't run a four
Speaker 1: to three. But he's a good route runner. He's a
Speaker 1: physical player, he's good after the catch, he'll catch it contested,
Speaker 1: he can line up across the formation. I'm a huge
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup fan, and he's gonna get snaps in his
Speaker 1: first year here with the Cowboys, and he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a big part of the passing game going forward. I
Speaker 1: love the pick. Yeah, I think you're spot on. And
Speaker 1: I wasn't on board with you guys in a second round,
Speaker 1: but here in the third round, I think it's a steal.
Speaker 1: It's a great pick here. You kind of summed them up.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that really distinguishes him, like from a size,
Speaker 1: speed standpoint, but he understands his skill set. He's very detailed.
Speaker 1: He gets the most out of what he can do.
Speaker 1: And you look at the production over twelve hundred yards
Speaker 1: the last two years Juco guy, So the last two
Speaker 1: years at Colorado State, there's a lot to like with
Speaker 1: what he could do at the numbers four four five,
Speaker 1: at the forty yard dash ten eight and abroad thirty
Speaker 1: six in divert six nine five three cone six one
Speaker 1: two h five. Really good pick here in the third round.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, this guy is really good
Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands. He can adjust to
Speaker 1: it too. He'll go low and get it. He can
Speaker 1: run deep routes. He pushes off for space, he can
Speaker 1: get off the line, he gets through double teams. He'll
Speaker 1: take routes inside and he'll go get it. I like
Speaker 1: how he slaps the hands away at the defensive back
Speaker 1: to to win off the ball. He knows how to
Speaker 1: do those types of things. He'll come back and go
Speaker 1: get it too. Start stop quickness. He finds ways to
Speaker 1: make it plays. I think he's a really good route
Speaker 1: and this is something that this team desperately needed. They
Speaker 1: needed a guy that could separate in routes and be
Speaker 1: a good route runner. I think Michael Gallop I had
Speaker 1: him in the second round. He was in my top fifty.
Speaker 1: I'm really happy that third receiver. You guys know how
Speaker 1: I feel about Maryland's Dj Moore, now member to the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. It sounds it sounds like you're describing DJ
Speaker 1: Moore light. Yeah, says not as dynamic, but yeah, very similar.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that's that's what you Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to compare him straight up, but that's
Speaker 1: the type of guy you're getting again. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: not your Courtland Sutton it's not your Equanimius Saint Brown,
Speaker 1: but honestly, the Cowboys had that guy better. Well, I'm interested,
Speaker 1: I am. I'm fascinated by the future of a Cowboys
Speaker 1: team where it's gonna be route running that creates the
Speaker 1: mismatches as opposed to physical size, because and hey, Das
Speaker 1: Bryant's one of the best players in the history of
Speaker 1: the franchise. But we've seen what that looks like. I'm
Speaker 1: intrigued by this offense is going to look interesting because
Speaker 1: you got a bunch of guys who can get open,
Speaker 1: and you got a hell of a left guard to
Speaker 1: help you open up this running game as well. I
Speaker 1: like the way this is shape on my board. He
Speaker 1: was fifty nine overall, so I feel like that's uh
Speaker 1: getting him an eighty one. You gotta love it. Wide
Speaker 1: receiver one. This year we did it Michael Gallop wide
Speaker 1: receiver one for the Dallas Cowboy. You wanna you wanna
Speaker 1: try to predict that depth chart right now? Let's see,
Speaker 1: we will. Let's see where's he gonna start at. He's
Speaker 1: more of an ex play either. I think probably ideally
Speaker 1: he's an X because you see the physicality to deal
Speaker 1: with press coverage and fight through that. With Alan Hearns
Speaker 1: on the roster, do you don't have to run Gallop
Speaker 1: out as your starter on opening day? But I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna play snaps and he's gonna work his way
Speaker 1: in and he's going to end up being the best
Speaker 1: receiver on this roster. This guy's a really good route run.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you couldn't. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know why you couldn't. Again, you find what
Speaker 1: he finds ways to make makes play. This guy's a
Speaker 1: really good route runner. And the fact that he can
Speaker 1: release off the line, I mean, he can make contested plays.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, you give me a guy that's
Speaker 1: a good route runner. I'm gonna put him at Z
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let him. I'm just gonna let him
Speaker 1: wear people out. I think Terence Williams, you know, is
Speaker 1: gonna have to be and you know he's coming off
Speaker 1: an injury. Terrence Williams is gonna have to fight to
Speaker 1: keep his job with this guy, I really really do.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love him after the catch two. Yeah, physicality,
Speaker 1: the toughness, breaking tackles, sure he'll make occasionally, but more
Speaker 1: often he'll run through it. He's a tough dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Dan, and Dane's right. I mean again, here's the
Speaker 1: second round guy on my board, a top fifty guy,
Speaker 1: and they get him here at at three eighty one.
Speaker 1: Come on standing. That's that's doing your work right there.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, off my board, the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: taken three players all off my board. They're all in
Speaker 1: the second round. So with Lateranderish, Honor Williams, and then
Speaker 1: now with Michael Gallas. Uh no, No. The team that
Speaker 1: got for me too three number two is yeah. The team,
Speaker 1: the team that always seemed to get me on the
Speaker 1: top fifty was the the LA Chargers. They hit like
Speaker 1: five of my top fifty guys last year. And there, Ravens,
Speaker 1: you still like our guys a lot. The Cowboys. By
Speaker 1: the way, we're on the clock presented by you Blow.
Speaker 1: We love so much. Were the Lions are at the
Speaker 1: podium Universe once again. Stephen Tillock is gonna make the
Speaker 1: thing basketball. Good player, yeah, really good player. Good player.
Speaker 1: Someone the Cowboys brought in, yep, the safety from Louisiana Lafayette.
Speaker 1: He is a good player. But I'm still in my
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop after my draft is my draft is over
Speaker 1: one other one other thing about Gallup too, He's r KG.
Speaker 1: The right kind of guy, is he? I didn't I
Speaker 1: don't know the character. Talking talking to people at Colorado State.
Speaker 1: They love his presence in the building, what he brings,
Speaker 1: what he offers, plays with a chip. He's a he's
Speaker 1: a worker, so he fits well with what this team
Speaker 1: wants from a character leadership standpoint. I'll take to Tracy
Speaker 1: Walker because I do love the kid. I mean, you
Speaker 1: look at him. He can cover some ground, he'll hit you.
Speaker 1: He'll struggle with some angles at times, but he moves
Speaker 1: pretty easily. You can make tackles in the open field.
Speaker 1: I love the way he could come out of his pedal.
Speaker 1: Nice change of direction. Can be a little bit too aggressive.
Speaker 1: Coverage can be a little shaky, but he'll play out,
Speaker 1: blocks lines up at times in the slot. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We saw a kid last year here, Xavier Woods,
Speaker 1: play safety and playing the slot, so you know he did.
Speaker 1: He did a pretty not a half batch job. If
Speaker 1: you watch the Texas A and M tape, he covered
Speaker 1: Kirk all over the field. That was really good. Ravens Select,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. Ravens are now on the podium.
Speaker 1: Awesome Oklahoma offensive tackle. He said that because Orlando Brown's father,
Speaker 1: zeus H was a member of the Baltimore Ravens at
Speaker 1: one time um and passed away a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Uh so Orlando Brown gets to go and play for
Speaker 1: his dad's team. Uh. Here in the third round, we
Speaker 1: talked about him at length had the historically bad combine,
Speaker 1: but you watch the tape and he just doesn't have
Speaker 1: many bad reps. Tape probably would have gotten him picked
Speaker 1: forty or fifty picks higher than this. The combine probably
Speaker 1: just cost him a round and a half. But when
Speaker 1: you just watch him on tape, behold. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: he's just he's such a monster. He's such a huge
Speaker 1: guy that even when because you can see on tape
Speaker 1: that the athleticism is not great, there's times where he's
Speaker 1: out of position, but just the power in the length,
Speaker 1: he's able to save it because he is so big
Speaker 1: and he is so strong. The tape is a lot
Speaker 1: better than to work out. And I think he's going
Speaker 1: to be a starter in the NFL. I want to
Speaker 1: go back. You know, you're still in your Michael Gallop
Speaker 1: after glow. Now, I mean now I'm back. I came back. Well,
Speaker 1: I want to, I want to take it back. I
Speaker 1: always I have to really all back in the time.
Speaker 1: But that's that's fine. But look at this, and I
Speaker 1: can't help but have flashbacks of last year when you know,
Speaker 1: I assume the Cowboys aren't going to pick again tonight.
Speaker 1: They could, but you look at it. We go back
Speaker 1: to last night. Layton vander esh not a pick that
Speaker 1: gets everybody excited. Obviously, the Cowboys think all their picks
Speaker 1: are gonna be all pros, and that's what Cigars and
Speaker 1: Johnny Walker Blue Yeah, absolutely. Hey, all right, let well
Speaker 1: let's go to the phone. But a pin in that
Speaker 1: where we have the latest Dallas cowb the newest Dallas
Speaker 1: cow I will not calm down, Dane. I tried to
Speaker 1: pick him and the Dallas Cowboys did it, So I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, Colorado State, the newest Dallas Cowboy. How you doing, Michael,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at how about you? We're great. I
Speaker 1: will have you know that the people in this room,
Speaker 1: no forget the people in this room, me especially, have
Speaker 1: been trying to get you picked since they picked at
Speaker 1: number fifty did you know the interest? How did you forget?
Speaker 1: How did it feel when Jerry Jones was on the
Speaker 1: other end of the line. I mean, ones can't even
Speaker 1: describe that. I mean, everybody wants to go play for Dallas.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to go play. But I mean when he said,
Speaker 1: Michael gallup, now, I mean I just crowze up. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to think, what to say? But oh,
Speaker 1: was it? Fiy? Did we see right that you ended
Speaker 1: up on the phone with the governor? Yes? There they
Speaker 1: covered the coffee. How is that a we? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's already one of the best moments of your life?
Speaker 1: Is it hard to process? Like all of us, you're
Speaker 1: on the phone with the governor of Texas? Yes, sir, um,
Speaker 1: you know all I can said it was you know, yes, sir?
Speaker 1: No siry now was about it? I couldn't believe that. So, Michael,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Cowboys fans all across the Dallas area,
Speaker 1: all across the world probably listening to you right now.
Speaker 1: You just just a snapshot of what you're all about
Speaker 1: as a player. Obviously the Cowboys liked you enough to
Speaker 1: draft you the third round. Just what exactly do you
Speaker 1: bring to the table. What do you do best? I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I'd love to going to compete. UM.
Speaker 1: A lot of receivers, you know, some of us are
Speaker 1: you know they say that with a little bit of
Speaker 1: a you know, primima downa side. But you know I
Speaker 1: don't take lightly to that. UM. I like to go
Speaker 1: out there and compete. I like to be a strong body. UM.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm gonna get into Dallas and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give them everything I got. Have they talked to
Speaker 1: you at all about the role? We were kicking it
Speaker 1: around and it seems like you're a guy that can
Speaker 1: line up wherever. But have they talked about what they
Speaker 1: envisioned for you. Well, they didn't want me to cut
Speaker 1: down and help them win bio games. That's what they
Speaker 1: told me. And they said, you know I can do
Speaker 1: that from a variety of ways. So UM, that's all
Speaker 1: I'm just getting lady to do. All right, Michael Will,
Speaker 1: Congratulations and welcome. I'll tell you we in this room
Speaker 1: are incredibly excited to hear your name called at number
Speaker 1: eighty one and looking forward to getting you down here,
Speaker 1: meeting you and seeing you play for the Cowboys. Congratulations, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that very much. All Right, there he goes
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, the best pick in this NFL draft and
Speaker 1: the first guy to call me sir in my life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then when you meet him in person, he's gonna
Speaker 1: not He's gonna take it all back. I picked you, Michael.
Speaker 1: I gotta appreciate you. We gotta like you. They don't
Speaker 1: call you, Jeff. I don't know if that's true. They don't.
Speaker 1: I know, do you believe that you've got a three
Speaker 1: year track record? You believe that? I do believe he
Speaker 1: wills picks though. I mean, we can tell they're that
Speaker 1: laptop's open, they're refreshing his Twitter, they're loveing to the
Speaker 1: draft coverage, they're monitoring my Twitter, and they're making the picks.
Speaker 1: One thing I really like about Michael Gallup is this
Speaker 1: is a guy who has overcome a lot of adversity
Speaker 1: from UH didn't have the scores out of high school
Speaker 1: to go to top school, so I went to JUCO.
Speaker 1: Got hurt, so some of the top Power five programs
Speaker 1: backed off because the Colorado State and all he did
Speaker 1: was produced. So he's had to overcome a lot. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the podium, the Chargers are picking Jones, those
Speaker 1: NC State guys you throw on the tape, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a good watch they have. They had a really
Speaker 1: really good defensive line. I'll take for me, Justin Jones.
Speaker 1: That's early for him. I loved d J. Hill in there,
Speaker 1: Justin Kiver, yeah, Justin Jones. Yeah, but that was an
Speaker 1: incredible defensive line they had it. And Dane had to
Speaker 1: set me straight when I accidentally made a wager during
Speaker 1: the season on the wrong team. He's like, did you
Speaker 1: not know that NC State has a whole lot of
Speaker 1: NFL players on the roster And I said, no, I didn't, Dane,
Speaker 1: it's not draft season yet. There's a lot to like
Speaker 1: about him. But honestly, that kind of made it tough
Speaker 1: at times to evaluate them because they're for future pros. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with Chub and Cantavious Street, and Street might have been
Speaker 1: off the board by now if not for the ACL injury. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna be picked probably at some point tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It just it made it tough at times to evaluate
Speaker 1: them because he saw a lot of one on one matchups. Still,
Speaker 1: though I'm a little surprised. I thought, uh, you know
Speaker 1: we'd see some of these other tackles come off the board. Heck,
Speaker 1: I'd rather take a chance on more reshearsed and it's ticker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: before I took Justin Jones. But yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: talked about it. Dan, You're absolutely right, Hearst. You know
Speaker 1: Senate Phillips, you know, Phil how can a guy? And
Speaker 1: we got the Panthers now on the clock here, podium,
Speaker 1: excuse me, let's go to it. There we go there.
Speaker 1: We're a fan of that in this room. There is
Speaker 1: no do we need to do. We need to talk
Speaker 1: about him again a little bit and what the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers are gonna get go for we kind of already had.
Speaker 1: But to me, that is one of the smarter players
Speaker 1: in the draft, just in terms of how fast he plays.
Speaker 1: His times were a little disappointing at the at the combine.
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm watching it on the NFL network and
Speaker 1: it just said plays faster than times. That's the one
Speaker 1: trait that stood out to me. Always getting in the mix,
Speaker 1: knocking a ball loose, kind of his nose for the
Speaker 1: ball a little bit, we'll tackle. You know, he's he's
Speaker 1: good in the slot. I think he could play free
Speaker 1: safety because I just think he sees things faster. I
Speaker 1: think his rage is a little good. Now you're so
Speaker 1: good on your analysis. Were good there, We got him,
Speaker 1: got him? Yeah. I just the fact is his tape
Speaker 1: was fun for me to watch because when you you
Speaker 1: see guys compete on bad football teams and it scores
Speaker 1: out of whack and he's still you know, getting after it,
Speaker 1: making tackles, trying to get to the ball. He creates turnovers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see a guy that get cover in the slot.
Speaker 1: Carolina knew what they were doing here, a big, nice
Speaker 1: pick by them. Looks like the Ravens are now at
Speaker 1: the podium at eighty six. You guys ready to get weird.
Speaker 1: Let me get this out real quick. They took Hayden
Speaker 1: Hurst first round. Okay, so are they both going to
Speaker 1: be attached to the formation. Maybe you play Mark Andrews
Speaker 1: trying a big wide receivers. There's you a mismatch guy.
Speaker 1: I really, I really like that at Jackson. Go out
Speaker 1: there with some big bodies that can work down the
Speaker 1: middle of the field, just and let him loose. That's
Speaker 1: a Raven style pick too right there. Now, first Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco has to throw it all these guys for one
Speaker 1: year before we can run him out of town. But
Speaker 1: then Lamar Jackson's got some tight ends to hang out with.
Speaker 1: For people that I had this guy in the second round,
Speaker 1: I did too. I think he's a good player. I
Speaker 1: really do. Yeah, I really do. For people that are not.
Speaker 1: But I think this we can stop the Max Williams
Speaker 1: experiment in Baltimore. Yeah, good point. I remember Max Williams.
Speaker 1: People are people are asking me, you know what, there's
Speaker 1: there's ten and eleven picks left before the end of
Speaker 1: the night. Uh that the Cowboys war room does not
Speaker 1: have the look of a place that's considering a trade,
Speaker 1: given that Jerry's been talking to the governor and Will
Speaker 1: McClay is not in the room, so I guess, and
Speaker 1: neither's Chris Hall for that matter. I guess anything's possible.
Speaker 1: But Steven yeah, yeah, well yeah, good point, Stephen Jones. Uh,
Speaker 1: this has the feel of a relaxed war room right now. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's a war room that's had a heck
Speaker 1: of a day. No, no, the first three round, but
Speaker 1: you know, with with two fourth round picks, I think
Speaker 1: it's fair to wonder if they're going to show something. Sure,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it right now, raves back to back.
Speaker 1: Oh ye, well, here we go again. We're at the
Speaker 1: war room. We're looking inside the war room at the
Speaker 1: Ford Center here at the Star in Frisco. Musting out
Speaker 1: the paper. I think Jerry's just showing somebody how it works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well the long again, the long sheet of paper that
Speaker 1: they look at. That is their trade charts right there.
Speaker 1: So Todd Williams is now moving in there. Todd Williams
Speaker 1: is the works in the cap and kind of a
Speaker 1: football operations guy. Really, it does a lot of things
Speaker 1: here for the Cowboys. Everything does everything. So he's setting
Speaker 1: some things up on the phone. Maybe they're having some
Speaker 1: phone issues right now that they're dealing with because he's
Speaker 1: over in front of the bank of phones. Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: was on the phone earlier. Maybe someone calling him and
Speaker 1: saying congratulations for the Michael Gallup pick. That that happens
Speaker 1: every once in a while with him. Can we just okay,
Speaker 1: let's just pull it back. I mean, you love everything
Speaker 1: that's happened tonight, Jeff, I love everything that's happened tonight.
Speaker 1: They literally picked the player that if they let me
Speaker 1: in the room at fifty and said, who would you pick?
Speaker 1: I would say Connor Williams, get any one. I would
Speaker 1: have said, pick Michael Gallup, Stumi Day, No, you're mean
Speaker 1: Todd Williams. Okay, Now he's writing stuff down and he
Speaker 1: is he's the cap guy for the Cowboys, and you
Speaker 1: know they're doing some math over there, and he's he's
Speaker 1: kind of going through some things again. Him and Adam
Speaker 1: Pacifica who you can't see off camera, and you see
Speaker 1: his hands writing down. Yeah, and he's down the corner there.
Speaker 1: Those two guys are responsible for the cap. So they're
Speaker 1: trying to maybe figure some things out here. So let's
Speaker 1: see if it back that's the case. Uh, let's get
Speaker 1: back in this thing. We're not done. It seems hard
Speaker 1: to believe that they're doing anything without Stephen and will
Speaker 1: Which do you think they're waiting for us to tell
Speaker 1: them who the next pick is. Maybe we haven't told
Speaker 1: him who to p Hey, Well, they're listening there listening,
Speaker 1: So to various more would be an option that was
Speaker 1: a visitor that they had that you can project to
Speaker 1: be a free safety in the NFL that could maybe
Speaker 1: start anybody else that you would be super interested in.
Speaker 1: Getting back into this draft for more. That's the guy,
Speaker 1: that's it. That's that's yeah, Dedrince not Yeah. I would
Speaker 1: look at the nose tackles as well. Yeah, defensive helps
Speaker 1: your defensive line, he helps your linebackers. Yeah, he helps
Speaker 1: your front seven. So I'm shocked he's still on the board.
Speaker 1: Four is my only other guy will Tyrol Crosby, But
Speaker 1: that's a tackle. The Cowboys don't need a tackle at
Speaker 1: this point. Would you do the other linebacker? Jenard Avery
Speaker 1: or Josie Jewel? I personally wouldn't but sit and thrown
Speaker 1: it out there. Wow, both in the fifth Huh, Steven's
Speaker 1: back in the house. Um, So if you can bind
Speaker 1: pick one sixteen and pick one thirty seven, that only
Speaker 1: gets you to the end of the third round. So
Speaker 1: you would need more than that. You would need your
Speaker 1: two fourth round picks and then something else to maybe
Speaker 1: get into the playground of Wait, wait, how how many
Speaker 1: how ninety four six picks away? How far could just
Speaker 1: the two fourths get you? Raiders are now they've made
Speaker 1: a trade here, The Raiders are at the podium. Oh
Speaker 1: Dave hey, more power to him. Okay, Oh, I hate
Speaker 1: to do immediate draft grades and all that, but Oakland's
Speaker 1: probably having doesn't doesn't seem great. Well. I think if
Speaker 1: you do the work of evaluating players and then people
Speaker 1: they pick guys that you didn't think highly of, I
Speaker 1: think you have the right to evaluate what you thought
Speaker 1: of their draft. I mean that's what basically what we're
Speaker 1: doing this last three days. If good arden Key shows up,
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a pick, and it's a gigantic
Speaker 1: if it's about arn Key at right, tackling Khalil Mackett
Speaker 1: left left, ascume I guess arn Ket right in and
Speaker 1: then and then if Kalil Mackett left in, if he motivated,
Speaker 1: if he's motivated and out of trumble and I think
Speaker 1: we had this argument Jeff, which you're you're absolutely right
Speaker 1: to criticize him for showing up out of weight or
Speaker 1: overweight and out of practice last year. Dude was a
Speaker 1: monster in twenty sixteen, Oh for sure, for an absolute monster.
Speaker 1: I'm on on level with Errol Landry. I think, so
Speaker 1: if you can coax that out of him, have at it.
Speaker 1: I just don't trust that that's going to happen based
Speaker 1: on everything we know about the guy. If you combine pick,
Speaker 1: we're an eighty seven right now. Actually it's about to
Speaker 1: be eighty eight with Green Bay. If you combine both
Speaker 1: fourths and you're fifth, you could get up to about
Speaker 1: ninety five. Okay, man, so eight picks away. I Dan,
Speaker 1: you know We've been doing this for four years now.
Speaker 1: I'm not a super aggressive drafter, am I. If you
Speaker 1: told me, I mean, all right, let's just assume that
Speaker 1: Tarvarius More is their highest rated safety left on the board.
Speaker 1: Ten guys aren't making this team anyway. I agree. If
Speaker 1: you told me that, that would get me up to
Speaker 1: ninety five. New England loves to trade, if that would
Speaker 1: get me there, and I could just give me a
Speaker 1: badass safety to cap this off with. I'm in Cockers
Speaker 1: at the podium. Okay, two teams. Oran Burks who had
Speaker 1: Now he was a great combine right. Oran Burks was
Speaker 1: incredible workout guy. Tester didn't love the tape, but he
Speaker 1: tested incredibly. So I guess for some you get into
Speaker 1: the third round and you start picking guys where you're
Speaker 1: kind of betting on the athlete. And Burkes had a
Speaker 1: little bit of a strange path because he played basically
Speaker 1: a new position every year, and that kind of a
Speaker 1: testament to what the coaches thought of him, that he
Speaker 1: could do it. I mean they needed someone to play
Speaker 1: their their star position. He could do it. Need someone
Speaker 1: to play free safety. He could do it. They moved
Speaker 1: him to the Zach Cunningham role after he left after
Speaker 1: last year, and he played pretty well as a senior.
Speaker 1: So I think you like the versatility that Oran Burks
Speaker 1: offers and again tested off the charts. You like those
Speaker 1: traits here in the later portion of the third round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I watched him playing The ball tends to go
Speaker 1: past him. You know, I'm not really sure how aware
Speaker 1: he is as a player. You know, it'll overrun some things.
Speaker 1: I thought he lost the ball, you know, a little
Speaker 1: bit lack of instincts there, and a struggle with some
Speaker 1: of those angles, the basic drop stuff. The biggest question
Speaker 1: I have is does this guy see it? How well?
Speaker 1: Does he really see it? And and Dane, maybe it's
Speaker 1: steered to your point, he's having to play a lot
Speaker 1: of different positions. Maybe that's affecting the way he plays.
Speaker 1: All right. So now we have the Rams at the
Speaker 1: podium pick eighty nine. This is their first pick, right, yep.
Speaker 1: They had to get golf. Oh yeah, and they they
Speaker 1: gave away a boatload for Marcus Peters too. Cooks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that pick. I'll tell you what. The Rams
Speaker 1: don't pick all draft, and they make that pick. A
Speaker 1: huge fan of this kid. He wears number sixty eight
Speaker 1: at TCU. I thought he had some of those Doug Free.
Speaker 1: I mean you're kind of like, okay, wait, but he's
Speaker 1: such an athlete at left tackle, he's light footed. You know,
Speaker 1: he gets the outside, he's got the length, he could
Speaker 1: keep guys wide. I mean you think, like for a
Speaker 1: long guy, that he doesn't have some power, but he
Speaker 1: does play with some power. He's very similar when you
Speaker 1: watch Doug Free play early in his career, how athletic
Speaker 1: he was. This kid is that way. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I think the Rams got a heck of a guy.
Speaker 1: They've taken some tackles in this draft and I've been like, ah,
Speaker 1: but that kid right there, big big fan of him.
Speaker 1: I really love the way that he's sort of recovered.
Speaker 1: On tape. You'll see times where guys get into his chest.
Speaker 1: He absorbs a punch and he ends up in a
Speaker 1: place where you're like, oh, but yeah, he sustains it exactly.
Speaker 1: He's able to fight through that. So I'm a note
Speaker 1: Boom fan too. I think that's a good pick right
Speaker 1: there at the end of the third I had a
Speaker 1: fourth round grade on him because there is a lot
Speaker 1: of sloppy play on his tape. Lungeing saves it, he doesn't. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he does have the athleticism the make up for it.
Speaker 1: He's not a sustained player, so there is a mix
Speaker 1: of sloppy and successful snaps on his film. But again,
Speaker 1: you like the resume, you like the traits, and we're
Speaker 1: talking into the third round. That's what you're drafting. An
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. Interesting that Tyrell Crosby's still on the board.
Speaker 1: Unless I missed him somewhere, he's still there. Offensive still
Speaker 1: on the board. Yeah, nothing against note Boom. I'm just
Speaker 1: surprised some Jamarco Jones I had rated ahead of note
Speaker 1: Boom as well, So some good tackle. See, I had
Speaker 1: no Boom, Crosby, and then Jones. That was my order.
Speaker 1: In front across. Oh, I had him in front across. Okay,
Speaker 1: you'd like I think, I you know, I respect with
Speaker 1: Dane's the evaluation. I mean there are many a day
Speaker 1: where he and I sat there and but but I
Speaker 1: just felt and you brought it up about maybe the
Speaker 1: sloppy part of it, but I just felt like, though,
Speaker 1: the guy just such a great athlete. Yes, and then
Speaker 1: because on the other side, the kid on the other
Speaker 1: side is a massive Matt Matt Prior is a massive guy.
Speaker 1: So they had this big tackle on one side and
Speaker 1: a really good ballerina on the other side. Of the
Speaker 1: trio of Tyrell Cross be Harrison, Phillips and Ronnie Harrison.
Speaker 1: Who are you more surprised to still have available Phillips? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Crosby at one point in this werent answers all over
Speaker 1: the place. Yeah, split it up, Yeah, I think um
Speaker 1: and as you four is another guy that I had
Speaker 1: rated pretty high. They're back, I mean they're They're all
Speaker 1: in there, and it's again we're looking at the war
Speaker 1: room inside the Ford Center at the start Frisco. There's
Speaker 1: they've got offensive coaches in there, they've got defensive coaches.
Speaker 1: I feel like they trying to get back. They're trying
Speaker 1: to get back. Yeah, they're trying to get back in
Speaker 1: this thing. They wised up. They wised up to our strategy.
Speaker 1: Though they know that we're watching who comes into the
Speaker 1: war room look here this two fourths and a fifth
Speaker 1: get you to ninety five. I've seen reports on Twitter
Speaker 1: that the Patriots are done drafting tonight. Yeah, the Patriots
Speaker 1: draft at ninety five. I'm in, I'm in their various more?
Speaker 1: Is there an offensive player? I mean, Scott Lenahans, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry the Patriots traded that pick. Will McClay is trying
Speaker 1: to make a point here to the Does he does
Speaker 1: look animated? Yeah? He is banging that fist, that right
Speaker 1: fist on that desk. That counts as a bang the table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's trying one convinced the joke will not get back
Speaker 1: there picking the fourth round here, you want him, let's
Speaker 1: go get him. One day in my life, I want
Speaker 1: to see somebody actually stand up on the table, like
Speaker 1: we use that expression so often. Will might be doing
Speaker 1: it here in a second. See who I mean? Is
Speaker 1: it there? Various more? Is that who they're talking about?
Speaker 1: A free safety visitor? That's you know, Harrison Phillips is
Speaker 1: a really good player available for defensive line? Is really
Speaker 1: really thin though, David, I mean, I mean that's something
Speaker 1: you have to think about here. I Harson Phillips as
Speaker 1: you seems too early to gamble on Mohurst. Oh, Harrison
Speaker 1: Phillips is the kind of guy that Rod MARINOI loves.
Speaker 1: Do you think he'd be making a little more noise
Speaker 1: right now though? Rod's just kind of standing back there
Speaker 1: letting will handle. And you wonder if maybe some medicals
Speaker 1: with Phillips. Uh, I mean he had it, he had
Speaker 1: torn acl He's a big elbow brace too play, and
Speaker 1: he missed the entire two and fifteen season with a
Speaker 1: torn a clum. Maybe that's playing into that why he's
Speaker 1: still available. Here. Let me ask you this, Could they
Speaker 1: be thinking about Hurst here? Maybe here's the Falcons. They're
Speaker 1: at the podium, Yeah, in this room to the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1: What does that add to their draft? All? The Atlanta
Speaker 1: Falcons now have Ridley Isaiah Oliver the corner and Dedrin
Speaker 1: senat the defensive tackle. Take it away. We all like
Speaker 1: don Terry Poe just left free agency. So there you go.
Speaker 1: That fills a hole that's next to Grady Jackson right there.
Speaker 1: But our Grady Jared excuse me, Yeah, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I love this kid again. We talked about his ability
Speaker 1: to attack the gap and he when he played head up,
Speaker 1: you would see him drive the center back into the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Just a hard, hard guy to block there. You know
Speaker 1: that one gap he gets in it, he's up the field.
Speaker 1: He could get sideways and they turned back straight. He's
Speaker 1: a hard guy to move. All right. The Saints are
Speaker 1: on the clock at number ninety one. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back with it. You are listening twenty let's just go
Speaker 1: to the podium, y'all can't keep us sorry. I love it.
Speaker 1: Roman Harper one of my favorite football players ever. Harry
Speaker 1: went gray when he was like twenty four years old.
Speaker 1: I love Treik Jon Smith. I think that's a great
Speaker 1: pick for the Saints to put with Michael Thomas and
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. But I also want to point out we
Speaker 1: have at ativity in the Cowboys war room where Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones is on the phone. Rod Marinelli just got a
Speaker 1: pat on the back on his way out of the room.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're coming back up in this draft,
Speaker 1: or if Jerry's on the phone with a player or
Speaker 1: what's going on, but we got action in the Cowboys
Speaker 1: war room for sure. A lot of smiles, a lot
Speaker 1: of smiles. Jerry's still on the phone, everybody. Something is
Speaker 1: happening in the Cowboys war room. Maybe they're coming back
Speaker 1: into this round and they've already picked somebody. Whatever it is,
Speaker 1: there are people excited about it in the war room
Speaker 1: right now, sort of tangentially related. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: he's not a Dallas Cowboy anymore, but we talk about
Speaker 1: why is Dez Bryant not signing anywhere? Teams want to
Speaker 1: see what happens in the draft. Saints just draft Trey
Speaker 1: Kuan Smith. Seems like it would put a dent in
Speaker 1: the thought that Dez Bryant winds up in New Orleans
Speaker 1: sometime later. All right, let's take a quick break here.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll see what's happening with the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys war room because we got action. You're listening
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Speaker 1: our group here, uh, Damee Brugler, Brian Brass, myself, David Hellmann,
Speaker 1: Kevin kt Turner, Jeff Kavanaugh is coming back into the
Speaker 1: into the war room with us here. We talked about
Speaker 1: it before we went to break. There was some activity
Speaker 1: in the Cowboy war room. They look like they're very
Speaker 1: calm right now. Don't see anybody one. It kind of
Speaker 1: chilled out a little bit. Maybe, yeah, maybe they couldn't
Speaker 1: make the deal. Maybe they're trying to go and just
Speaker 1: couldn't go anybody to go with them. So maybe take
Speaker 1: that back, Chris Halls, now jump back on the phone.
Speaker 1: Stealers were at the podium. Let's see him make a
Speaker 1: pick exorcly Yeah, Dane, what does mean? I'm not a
Speaker 1: big fan of the player's soft the fifth and he's
Speaker 1: a soft player, and he's very young. He's just not
Speaker 1: a natural at this football thing. And that's a problem, um,
Speaker 1: especially when you talk about a trenches guy. Tyrell Crosby's
Speaker 1: still on the board. We gotta find out about an injury.
Speaker 1: Something must be going on. I'll find that out, Core four.
Speaker 1: It doesn't go before Tyrell Crosby picking foot in real life.
Speaker 1: This guy's this guy's an offensive tackle. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember we were hearing about him back when, uh
Speaker 1: was it Corey Davis, Right, We're you're hearing about the
Speaker 1: tackle prospect that was going to come out. But then
Speaker 1: watching the tape, I was like, Okay, it's he moves
Speaker 1: really well. The body control, the flexibility, the feat it's
Speaker 1: but there's no power to his game. There's no nasty
Speaker 1: to his game. He's going to get eaten up until
Speaker 1: that changes. And that's kind of a hard thing to change.
Speaker 1: Some guys just don't have it in him. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure he does, and so I would not take a
Speaker 1: chance on that guy until later on the draft. Steelers.
Speaker 1: It's a high upside pick. You're really taking a risk
Speaker 1: though here and there. I'm not a really natural football player.
Speaker 1: That's that's the big prom Dane's absolutely right about him.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that the ESPN is infallible by
Speaker 1: any means. He's not even on their list of best
Speaker 1: remaining offensive tackles right now, it looks like the Jaguars
Speaker 1: pick is in we'll see who. In fact, the Jaguars
Speaker 1: pick here at a at ninety three. It's like sixth
Speaker 1: on my remaining tackles. He's a person, he's a human being, Dave,
Speaker 1: he's a person, he's a guy. He's there. Jaguars will
Speaker 1: take a good player, right, surely they've been doing a
Speaker 1: good job. I'm here lately and the Jaguars are at
Speaker 1: the podium. They picked the fan. It looks like this.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, how much different when they lose
Speaker 1: all the weight? Yeah, hubo, poor guy. My dad has
Speaker 1: six gus. It's a lot of work. Yeah, close, There
Speaker 1: we go, There we go and six girls and a boy.
Speaker 1: Two boys. Oh okay, okay, I mean you sounded very weird,
Speaker 1: like just six girls, but you're yeah, okay, okay. Jacksonville
Speaker 1: is entering, like I mean, well, it's ironic because Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: just picks the guy that y'all don't like. But like,
Speaker 1: it just seems like they just find their way to
Speaker 1: great players who shouldn't still be around. A second round
Speaker 1: guy on my board, d Jhark. We were talking about
Speaker 1: him going in the top fifty. Ronnie Harrison we were
Speaker 1: talking about in the top fifty. They got him at
Speaker 1: sixty two and ninety three. Job security for a Barry
Speaker 1: Church chip in the air now right, Yeah, we're telling
Speaker 1: things out there. Yeah, well, who's their other safety? Great question, Dave,
Speaker 1: Well again, maybe we just maybe we just answered that question. Question.
Speaker 1: Don't don't try to fire my guy, Barry. I love him.
Speaker 1: I'll check the depth chart for you. I got a
Speaker 1: Jaguars depth chart. That's not a problem. We're all over
Speaker 1: it now on the clock. After Jacksonville, we are running
Speaker 1: up on the end of the round. Here you've got
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, San Francisco, Buffalo, Arizona, Houston, Denver, Kansas City
Speaker 1: and out of there. Yeah and see. And now we
Speaker 1: got to remember too, this is when the first time
Speaker 1: we're starting to see the compensatory picks come into play.
Speaker 1: And let's remember compensatory picks can be traded. So picks
Speaker 1: ninety seven through one hundred have the ability to be traded.
Speaker 1: They're owned by Arizona, Houston, Denver, and Cincinnati. So if
Speaker 1: you still want to play a game in this round,
Speaker 1: the committatory picks are available. All right, We now go
Speaker 1: to secret audio of the greatest Cowboys draft pick of
Speaker 1: all time, Number eighty one in the draft, the third
Speaker 1: round pick Michael Gallup, Colorado statewide receiver, the newest Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboy and the greatest pick of all time. Here's when
Speaker 1: he found out. Hello, Michael, somebody wants to talk to you,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. This is Michael Gallop. This is the governor
Speaker 1: of Texas and I'm here. I'm here with Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: and we are proud to say you are a Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboy that I appreciate. I appreciate it. Of course, Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones wants to talk to you, Michael, Michael, Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. And that was our governor of Texas
Speaker 1: that just got on the phone and told you sitting
Speaker 1: right here with me, and he's gonna be to you now,
Speaker 1: Dallas couple. You'll probably very much, Yes, sir, Well, he's
Speaker 1: a great governor. And yeah, I'm in here and let's
Speaker 1: win some ball games. Okay, congratulating. Listen, here here's our
Speaker 1: head coach, Jason Garrett. Michael. Thank congratulations, man, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. You got the governor of Texas calling you.
Speaker 1: You got mister Jerry Jones calling you so special deal man. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: you're ready to work. I'm always ready, always think. I
Speaker 1: know you are. I know you are. That's the big
Speaker 1: reason why we picked You're excited to get you get
Speaker 1: after a lot of noise back there. That's a good sign. Congrats.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hand the phone to Scotland. I had the
Speaker 1: offensive core. Alright, alright, what are you going man? Thank
Speaker 1: you very much, Michael, We're going. Hey, congrats man, I'm
Speaker 1: color I know you will. Hey, We'll see you in
Speaker 1: a few weeks, I guess. And then just get the work, buddy.
Speaker 1: It's time to go right on. Congrats, I know exciting time,
Speaker 1: can you. Hey, someone wants to talk to you. Yeah, Hello, Michael,
Speaker 1: I'm the governor, like not. Hi, this is the Californist. Yeah, Hi,
Speaker 1: this is a someone someone would like to talk. Are
Speaker 1: hanging up the phone because I'm not believing him? All right?
Speaker 1: Alex Kappa by Humbolt State Senior Bowl Guy is headed
Speaker 1: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at number ninety four and
Speaker 1: at number ninety five. We will have the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers on the clock. As we get towards the end
Speaker 1: of day two of the NFL draft forty nine ers
Speaker 1: on the clock, five picks after them, and then the
Speaker 1: round is over. In the war room camera no longer
Speaker 1: shows action. As a reminder, ninety five was the place
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could get to by packaging both of their
Speaker 1: fourth round picks tomorrow and their fifth round picks, and
Speaker 1: ninety five was the place they would they would land
Speaker 1: and would be picking if they would have pulled off
Speaker 1: a trade. The war room is gone now, so and
Speaker 1: what do we say that, you know, with Will McClay
Speaker 1: kind of being a little demonstraated, Yeah, with his hands,
Speaker 1: say pretty much, if we don't go up here to
Speaker 1: get our guy, he's not gonna be available for us tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So Will McClay fell strong about that. And we'll see
Speaker 1: here in the next few picks. If it was one
Speaker 1: of the targets, I think, based on the fact the
Speaker 1: cameras covered it was a guy we know they like,
Speaker 1: they didn't trade up to get him, it means he's
Speaker 1: probably going here and I think we can pick it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. To me though, maybe with the fact that
Speaker 1: they've shut things down, and again this is just speculative,
Speaker 1: but maybe they didn't get anybody to bite on what
Speaker 1: they were trying to sell, trying and you know, and
Speaker 1: and we'll see about you know, Jerry Jones, and you know,
Speaker 1: he'll probably talk about, hey, we tried to move up.
Speaker 1: And then you got some teams that are just you know,
Speaker 1: they're looking at the end. It's the San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine ers now with a selection. This is from the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots at the pub. Oh my gosh. So
Speaker 1: that's who the cowboys probably wanted to get back in
Speaker 1: the round for. They couldn't get it done, and that's
Speaker 1: why the war room is now covered up and shut
Speaker 1: down because they had nothing left to do today. And
Speaker 1: these teams know what other teams want. They know to
Speaker 1: various more and how many visits he went on. They
Speaker 1: know he was a top thirty guy for Dallas because
Speaker 1: he wasn't a combined guy, right, so he got invited
Speaker 1: on a lot of visits. So the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: know that. And there's probably a good chance we all
Speaker 1: know we're speculating. I'll be interested to see what New
Speaker 1: England got for this pick. You know, was it just
Speaker 1: too much? Kat tried to set it up to where
Speaker 1: you know, what was it? Kat? It was two fourth
Speaker 1: and a fifth, two fourths and the fifth. So they
Speaker 1: were trying to move three picks to New England. Kati
Speaker 1: told Francisco, I sue San Francisco, but New England was
Speaker 1: they didn't want to pick anymore. Right, they were done,
Speaker 1: they were off it. So here's such Various More. This
Speaker 1: could have been one of the Garoppolo picks given that
Speaker 1: it's San Francisco. Though, yeah, I'm not completely sure, but yeah,
Speaker 1: New England has been They've been sitting out for a
Speaker 1: while now. So there he goes the safety that you wanted.
Speaker 1: That's that's the fascination of the draft because if if
Speaker 1: John Lynch decides that he likes what the cowboys are selling,
Speaker 1: Various More might be a cowboy right now, and then
Speaker 1: you will see what it becomes of his career. I mean,
Speaker 1: if the Various More goes on to be a pro
Speaker 1: bowler for the forty nine ers, that'll be a fun
Speaker 1: thing to reminisce about in future draft cycles. You guys,
Speaker 1: okay with Xavier Woods at free safety, I am I like,
Speaker 1: I didn't too. I didn't think to Various Moore was
Speaker 1: going to come in and take the job. So well,
Speaker 1: I'm interested in that player, and I'd like to have
Speaker 1: him on the roster. I didn't want that pick because
Speaker 1: I think Xavier Woods would keep that job. But here
Speaker 1: we have the Bills selection at the podium. Fine again,
Speaker 1: this is pick ninety six, just four more picks left
Speaker 1: in the third round. Here we go. That makes lost sense.
Speaker 1: He just seems like a Kyle Williams yeah type of guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that. That makes a lot of sense there
Speaker 1: for the Bills. Excellent value here at nine six overall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna work out just fine for them. That's good value.
Speaker 1: You get Harrison Phillips going to the Buffalo Bills. And
Speaker 1: now in this round we are down to four picks
Speaker 1: remaining in the third round. It doesn't look like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna be involved. We're gonna get an Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs. Final four picks
Speaker 1: of day two. I want to pick back up on
Speaker 1: where we were before that pick, which is talking about
Speaker 1: the safeties, which yeah, I mean, hey, we talked about
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas forever to various more Tracy Walker. Just throw
Speaker 1: in Ronnie Harrison and Jesse Bates if you want to,
Speaker 1: but I feel like all of the vast majority of
Speaker 1: the guys that are gonna give us starting job or
Speaker 1: run for its money don't look like options anymore. Which
Speaker 1: it's okay, I think they need a body in the
Speaker 1: room for sure. It's well, they have to have a
Speaker 1: body in the room. But you know, and I've been
Speaker 1: saying all spring, I don't mean that as a knock
Speaker 1: on Xavier Woods, but it's it's a hell of a
Speaker 1: vote of confidence from the cowboys that they are not
Speaker 1: putting big resources into trying to love our guys. They
Speaker 1: love our guys clearly they do, which I think there's
Speaker 1: two ways you can look at that. It's it's a
Speaker 1: hell of a vote of confidence, and it says a
Speaker 1: lot about what they think about the guy Showers. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Shamille Showers is still hanging around. That says a lot
Speaker 1: about what we do in this room and identifying players.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I on the flip side of that,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. Hope Hope seems like a
Speaker 1: bad strategy sometimes so hoping that he's going to develop
Speaker 1: into what you want him to be. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you hope for the best for all your players,
Speaker 1: but as it stands right now, there's not a great
Speaker 1: backup option if that does not work Byron Jones. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Jeth he's your free safety this year. You need to
Speaker 1: last I checked. We Yeah, but Cavon Frasier, you need,
Speaker 1: we need. There's no doubt they need a body. There
Speaker 1: no doubt. Cavon Frasier and Xavier Woods have four starts
Speaker 1: between the two of them combined, and I think all
Speaker 1: four of those are Xavier Woods, and three of the
Speaker 1: four came at slot corner and not safety. So you're
Speaker 1: basically talking about no career starts. If they were gonna
Speaker 1: put faith in a young player on the roster who
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of experience, would you pick anyone else?
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods is high on that list. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: So as it stands right now, that seems like the
Speaker 1: plan for twenty eighteen. Do you take Brian, What do
Speaker 1: you make of the depth at safety and what they
Speaker 1: might be doing this year as it sits now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was, you know, you wanted to varies more. I did,
Speaker 1: and you know, a matter of fact, you know on
Speaker 1: our mock draft we did for Dallas Cowboys dot Com,
Speaker 1: I picked him in the second round. And I know
Speaker 1: that's probably rich for a lot of people, but I
Speaker 1: felt like that they were gonna flip the safety and
Speaker 1: the cot and the receiver. You know, I was trying
Speaker 1: to kind of think about the depth. And I guarantee
Speaker 1: you when we go out with these guys and kind
Speaker 1: of talk at the end of the day here that
Speaker 1: they were trying to get back into scene to grab him.
Speaker 1: They probably felt like that debt more and and you know, hey,
Speaker 1: this is why the whole thing with but the guy
Speaker 1: in Seattle, I mean that stayed alive. You know, everybody,
Speaker 1: it's the same. It's it's something that we've talked about this.
Speaker 1: How much do you really trust Xavier Woods. I mean,
Speaker 1: we we like Xavier Woods. I think Xavier Woods needs
Speaker 1: to tackle a little bit better, and you know he'll improve.
Speaker 1: But you saw some good things with him in coverage,
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I'm okay, but I would have
Speaker 1: liked to have seen him get somebody like, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody to pair with him. And Jeff Heath would be
Speaker 1: great as he is, but you know, Jeff Heath to me,
Speaker 1: let him be a core special teams guy. Let him
Speaker 1: be that guy. But you know you're probably gonna see
Speaker 1: him and Woods are going to be the stars, unless
Speaker 1: you know, Cavon Frazier steps up and does something. Would
Speaker 1: you give up next year's too for Earl Thomas? I
Speaker 1: mean that's still a possibility, right, we don't have to
Speaker 1: kill it, right, would Well? I think Seattle wants to
Speaker 1: pick in this draft. It isn't I think that the
Speaker 1: reason Seattle would want to even do that is to
Speaker 1: pick it this year. Yeah, I think. I mean they're
Speaker 1: they're a retooling team. I don't want to say every building.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, if I had to guess, Seattle
Speaker 1: has every expectation of making the playoffs this year when
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback like that. So I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's it's hard to imagine the
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas thing coming to Fruition now when you're talking
Speaker 1: about they just spent all three of their most valuable
Speaker 1: picks in this draft. I guess, any I mean, anything's possible.
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna wake up and hear
Speaker 1: that Jason Witten was retiring this morning. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been quite a day. It has been long. That feels
Speaker 1: like about three years ago, so any anything's possible, but
Speaker 1: I don't see it. And so, like I said, I
Speaker 1: would have liked to see the Cowboys put a little
Speaker 1: more resources into safety. But it's hard for me to
Speaker 1: complain when I look at the rest of the draft,
Speaker 1: because you look at Leyton Vanderesh, you feel your biggest
Speaker 1: need uh. Connor Williams, I think you get a steal there,
Speaker 1: and Michael Gallup I think is a steal at a
Speaker 1: position of needs. So yeah, you could say they need
Speaker 1: a safety, but who are you getting rid of? Because
Speaker 1: those are three pretty good picks in my opinion, And
Speaker 1: it looks like the team agreed with you, Brian, and
Speaker 1: they tried to go get the guy. Yeah, couldn't get
Speaker 1: it done. So the Cardinals are now at the podium
Speaker 1: for pick ninety seven, Universe California. First word that one
Speaker 1: was what? Oh? That was how he enounced pit Mason
Speaker 1: Cole the center from Michigan, give us the pick number.
Speaker 1: But that's Mason Cole, the offensive lineman from Michigan. What
Speaker 1: do we think about that? Dane uh was forced to
Speaker 1: play loft how for the Wolverines was really out of
Speaker 1: position there? Much better inside player. I was kind of
Speaker 1: soured at him after the senior boat because he struggled
Speaker 1: during practice. One on ones, guys like U it was
Speaker 1: a shepherd, a few other ones just ate him up consistently.
Speaker 1: He had a tough time, so that really soured my
Speaker 1: opinion of him. But he had a really good career.
Speaker 1: One of the first Michigan players offensive linemen to start
Speaker 1: as a true freshman. There's a lot to like about
Speaker 1: the player as an inside player, center guard. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: kind of felt like though that he was one of
Speaker 1: those guys you initially watched and then it was him
Speaker 1: in Price and then it's all of a sudden, Okay,
Speaker 1: you gotta watch Rag now, and you gotta watch Daniels,
Speaker 1: and then you got a c. Quisenberry from UCLA. There
Speaker 1: were just guys that were like, Okay, he's better, he's better,
Speaker 1: he's better. I think again, you go back. You watched
Speaker 1: the center tape. Uh, he had an assess Danes right,
Speaker 1: he had to play left tackle and didn't think he
Speaker 1: was great at doing that, And I didn't think he
Speaker 1: was really great at at well as at the at
Speaker 1: the center spot. So yeah, all right. George Nacan George
Speaker 1: Jordan Nacan, Central Florida tight end going to Houston be
Speaker 1: my lowest graded player to be drafted so far. I
Speaker 1: had a sixth round grade on him. Older guy played
Speaker 1: a few years in the Texas Rangers Might League Baseball system. Well.
Speaker 1: The fun part here, though, is when we start looking
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys tomorrow. I know we lost a safety
Speaker 1: that we really liked. But if you're the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: you're thinking tight end less, I've missed something, Dane, your
Speaker 1: guy Ian Thomas is still on the ball. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: on top of that, we've still got nose tackles we
Speaker 1: like on the board too. Well, Fatakasi? Is still there
Speaker 1: anybody else that you like that early? When you're talking
Speaker 1: about the fourth round the nose tackles, maybe Tim Settle
Speaker 1: in the fourth. Yeah, that's when you start talking about him.
Speaker 1: My orders fought Acasi and I had him in the fourth,
Speaker 1: and then Ford and Settle in the fifth. I keep
Speaker 1: saying Ford's gonna get picked by the Bengals. Yeah, at
Speaker 1: the at the I know the workout they did the
Speaker 1: same thing they drafted Jefferson. This is a coach scout
Speaker 1: driven department, and I bet you they draft Puna four.
Speaker 1: He had a great workout with the since a thing
Speaker 1: at Austin. Chaquem Griffin, Katie still on the board. We
Speaker 1: still got Chakeem Griffin. I'll see it one sixteen. Chaquim
Speaker 1: just hanging around. You still got receivers. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Stephen Jones was serious when he told us I
Speaker 1: might take two of them. But Equanimius Saint Brown is
Speaker 1: still on the board. Dave Shawn Hamilton is still on
Speaker 1: the board. Derese Fountain, we talked about this team maybe
Speaker 1: doubling up a linebacker. Jewels still there, Griffin is there? Avery.
Speaker 1: Since those are guys, I've got yeah, edge guys. Okaronquo
Speaker 1: is still on the board. H Leon Jacobs. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm alone in my Leon Jacob's love. Jacobs
Speaker 1: is not badass. Yeah, we'll see. Tomorrow's the day of
Speaker 1: the Scouts. We gotta here we go. Still Broncos coming up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Broncos at the podium at ninety nine. Yeah. Ago, Now
Speaker 1: he was a Senior Bowl or a Shrine Game guy.
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He was a Senior Bowl guy. Week had
Speaker 1: a good week there and that surely helped him out.
Speaker 1: Tell us about ye item six uh and always seemed
Speaker 1: to be within arm's length of the receiver. Uh. He
Speaker 1: didn't run as as I expected. He only have four
Speaker 1: or five two. But he's one of the better press
Speaker 1: guys in this draft. Looks fluid, uh, staying attached the
Speaker 1: receiver up and down the field. I'm a fan it's player.
Speaker 1: I think this is a little surprise. He went ahead
Speaker 1: of like an Anthony Averitt, who's my top on the board.
Speaker 1: But uh uh he was the next guy to go,
Speaker 1: and I had a third round grade on him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Holton Hill was a guy like I mean, we know
Speaker 1: about the we know about the off field problems with
Speaker 1: Holton Hill. But Dane's right Averitt, And Harris is another
Speaker 1: guy that I kind of liked there as well. Ahead
Speaker 1: of him at on my board. Yeah, who's Harris? Devin Harris,
Speaker 1: David former Maverick great Devin Harris. Say my board, I've
Speaker 1: been talking for seven hours. Check notes, check my notes,
Speaker 1: figure out who Harris is. I don't have a Harry
Speaker 1: player in there. Ut. I'm sorry, Yeah I could. I
Speaker 1: thinking Devin Dante. I couldn't get his first name right,
Speaker 1: but yeah, Davante Harris from Illinois State. Ye got Yeah,
Speaker 1: We've got one pick left in the third round of
Speaker 1: the NFL drafted is the Kansas City Chiefs. They're on
Speaker 1: the clock pick number one hundred overall. Before this round
Speaker 1: is over and we get ready for tomorrow where the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys still have a bunch of picks. Could do
Speaker 1: something round Yeah, gffin, this is I think, Dane, is
Speaker 1: this the spot where you had Okay, this is this
Speaker 1: is now? Yeah, Kansas City's got this pick. But didn't
Speaker 1: you have Kansas City at eighty six? Yeah? Picking picking
Speaker 1: Griffin going yeah, yeah, they need some linebacker help. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd do it here, but it
Speaker 1: would make some sense. They they've gone defensive line with
Speaker 1: their two picks so far with Speaks and Naughty. Need
Speaker 1: more defensive help. Could be in the secondary, could be
Speaker 1: a linebacker. They need some help at guards center. You
Speaker 1: dona leave Chakeem Griffin in the green room another day.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can pick that way, he said.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can be the last team picking
Speaker 1: Chaquem Griffin said this week he was like, I'll hang
Speaker 1: out as long as it takes. I'm just freaking happy
Speaker 1: to be here. You can pick that way because he's
Speaker 1: the best player on the board can't pick that way. Listen, guys,
Speaker 1: no matter what he's in the green room, we gotta
Speaker 1: take him. Hey. I'm not saying teams have to listen,
Speaker 1: but you're crazy if you don't think NFL of fish
Speaker 1: have those conversations and teams like, hey, yeah, do you
Speaker 1: think that they're texting Kansas City. There have been several
Speaker 1: players that have been drafted his favors in this in
Speaker 1: the NFL draft the last ten years. Awful. It's kind
Speaker 1: of sickening at the end of the third No, not this, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're talking German receiver. Yeah, yes, Minnesota? Is that it? Morits? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What have you heard since that day? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I was told that dude could play. They sure
Speaker 1: got a Super Bowl pretty quickly. He dominated the German league.
Speaker 1: That was the thing, right, Didiver draft him in Minnesota? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was a made for TV thing. I'm surprised he
Speaker 1: didn't make it. You know, I thought that guy had
Speaker 1: a lot I read people one workout. I read somebody
Speaker 1: before the draft saying he had an incredible workout, and
Speaker 1: I thought he had a bright future. So we wait
Speaker 1: on pick number one hundred from the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: I mean, if they go offensive line, is this kind
Speaker 1: of like I mean Madison Maddi Rudolph's brother looking for twins? Yeah, Madison,
Speaker 1: I think that's if you're going offensive line, right, Musby
Speaker 1: got wrong with Crosby is better than one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight at least eight offensive linemen. I had Madison Crosby
Speaker 1: both in the third round. So take your pick there,
Speaker 1: all right. The Chiefs selection is linebacker man. He should
Speaker 1: be a decent cover guy, right, Daniels had more what
Speaker 1: he is. He's almost a safety, you know that, a
Speaker 1: guy that you want that overhang linebacker spot, come down
Speaker 1: play the strong safety role. Uh. Not a great take
Speaker 1: on player's little undersized you know, six little shy of
Speaker 1: six one two and twenty five pounds. Really good athlete,
Speaker 1: and I think he'd be a matchup guy when you
Speaker 1: talk about covering backs out of the backfield or h
Speaker 1: backs tight ends, but more of a mix and match guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be an every down player.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna selfishly I'm sorry. Just you got to brag
Speaker 1: about Michael Gallop for twenty minutes. Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1: I'm not done. I think Dorian O'Daniel, I think is
Speaker 1: the either the fourth or the fifth. Tell me more
Speaker 1: guy that's been drafted so far. I'm I'm I'm excited
Speaker 1: about that. Okay, So the Day two of the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft is in the books. Here on one oh five
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Speaker 1: hanging out with you, gentlemen. We'll go around room real
Speaker 1: quick and have some quick wrap up thoughts on this
Speaker 1: day before we get out of here, and then we'll
Speaker 1: look forward to tomorrow when the Cowboys will be on
Speaker 1: the clock and it'll be presented by you. Blow huh yeah, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Quick takeaways. I'll start Michael Gallup is the
Speaker 1: greatest pick and the history of this organization at number
Speaker 1: eighty one, Connor Williams at fifty was the perfect pick,
Speaker 1: and Layton vander esh at nineteen made sense. You just
Speaker 1: covered it. What I'll do is I'll take a look
Speaker 1: at next tomorrow. The top players available on my board
Speaker 1: Equamenia Saint Brown wide receiver and utter Dame Tyrell Crosby
Speaker 1: tackle of Oregon or coron Quo the player out of Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: Josie Jewel linebacker Iowa, Josh sweat edge defender Florida State,
Speaker 1: Ian Thomas, Indiana tight end, DeShawn Hand defensive lineman Alabama,
Speaker 1: Anthony Averett corner Alabama, Duke Edgia four edge player Wake Forest,
Speaker 1: and one more Niem Hines running back and see State.
Speaker 1: That could be a name we're talking about tomorrow if
Speaker 1: he makes it to the Cowboys pick in the fourth.
Speaker 1: I think just did a great job today. They were
Speaker 1: very patient. Again at the end, they probably tried to
Speaker 1: go up and grabbed that safety but just could not
Speaker 1: make that work. But I like the way they played
Speaker 1: with some patients today. I think tomorrow we always talk
Speaker 1: about this. It's the day of the scout. It's rounds
Speaker 1: four through seven. Dane gave you a lot of great
Speaker 1: names on that board. You'll be interesting to the cow
Speaker 1: with some picks. They've got some ammunition to move around
Speaker 1: here a little bit and try and grab some more
Speaker 1: guys and help their football team. But I think the
Speaker 1: first two days have been a really good start for them.
Speaker 1: I would like to say, first of all, they patched
Speaker 1: up the offensive line, which is something I wanted them
Speaker 1: to commit to. Whether it was round one, round two,
Speaker 1: round three, we kind of learned not to judge drafts
Speaker 1: based on around you. You grated on the whole thing,
Speaker 1: but getting Connor Williams, getting lucky enough to get Connor
Speaker 1: Williams and there, and that's how this team is gonna win,
Speaker 1: and then getting luckier at eighty one, and then getting
Speaker 1: luckier with Michael Gallup at eighty one, but that this
Speaker 1: team wins not through Michael Gallup as much as ze Zeke.
Speaker 1: And that's what they call is better than Zeke. Wow,
Speaker 1: you're an illusional right now. I went over the line
Speaker 1: that's called the Drafters High. Yeah, we've been on for
Speaker 1: a long time. I went over the line. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: definitely aren't going to agree with me. And I don't
Speaker 1: expect any of y'all two because it betrays like the
Speaker 1: very thought of the board, like don't window dress your board,
Speaker 1: don't betray your rankings and all that. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that's what they did, but me personally, like I'm
Speaker 1: just learning to look at especially the first two days,
Speaker 1: it's like a jigsaw puzzle. It goes back to the
Speaker 1: conversation we had back on Wednesday night. Maybe Layton Vanderesh
Speaker 1: wasn't the best guy that you could have taken on
Speaker 1: Thursday night. But if I tell you that it fits
Speaker 1: and you look at the you know, look at the
Speaker 1: rest of the board, and you get an underrated player,
Speaker 1: very underrated player at eighty one. If you look at
Speaker 1: that as a collective value, that's a net positive, I
Speaker 1: think in anybody's mind. And so again to Kat's point,
Speaker 1: you can't judge the nineteenth pick until you see what
Speaker 1: comes after them. Even if Laton Vanderesh was a reach,
Speaker 1: you got bargains with your other two picks, and at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it all makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. I think, I think on it so far.
Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for us from here, and
Speaker 1: we will see you guys tomorrow as we have one
Speaker 1: two is it four more rounds? Yeah, we got four
Speaker 1: more rounds and drafting to do, and you'll have us
Speaker 1: all here with you for every single pick. You've been
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