WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Havoc Talks New Mobb Deep Album, Prodigy's Legacy, 50 Cent, Jazmine Sullivan + More 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:00.680 Don't know. 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:05.840 Every day up waiting up the Breakfast Club, finish for 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:11.000 y'all done morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.200 the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Law La Roses 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:15.560 here as well. We got a special guest in the building. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:17.200 We have hav It here. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:18.720 Having what's up brother us going on? 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:20.279 How you feeling real good? 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:20.840 Real good? 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.520 Having from Mob Deep of course, new album Infinite out 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:25.680 on this Friday. 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:26.520 That's right. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.360 So many questions, so many questions. So let's start off 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.280 with with first, how did you put this album together? 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:32.960 Oh? 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:34.879 Man, it was It was a long time in the 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.640 making because, you know, after the untimely death of Prodigy, 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:38.920 you know what I mean, It was something that I 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.360 wanted to do, but it took me a minute because 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.680 of you know, the family was in the grieving process. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.720 But to make a long story short, linked up with 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.720 alc Alchemists and we knew we had to start, you 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:51.920 know what I mean, start the album. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:53.120 So flew out there. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.280 I had a couple of songs already, you know what 0:00:55.280 --> 0:01:00.000 I'm saying, some verses from a Prodigy's family, and Alchemists 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:01.880 had a ton of verses already, so we just started 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:03.440 putting it together and just breaking it down. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.680 How did you I was gonna ask, how did you 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.240 pick which verses? Like when you're going through Prodigy, you know, 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.120 verses that we've never heard? How you picked which ones? 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.600 Because we were anticipating hearing it, right. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.080 I mean it was kind of hard because I mean, 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.000 to me, you know what I'm saying, all Prodigy verses 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:18.880 is dope, you know what I mean? 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:20.280 So it was hard. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.520 I mean because we ended up with like what twenty 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.520 five songs and you know, ended up with fifteen, but. 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:27.720 I don't know, you. 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:29.360 Know, just the best ones, you know what I mean, 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.039 out of Prodigies versus if I could pick, it was 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:33.000 really hard thope. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.920 Now with any of these songs done already from y'all already, Oh, 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.199 these were all you had to get every new verses 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.679 from you know, whether his daughter I see his daughter raps, 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.000 his family or alchemists. 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.919 I mean, you know, I thought that I was getting 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.200 most of the verses was like unheard verses, but like 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.280 one of them was like you know, released like fourteen 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:50.840 years ago. 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:51.760 So you know what I'm saying. 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:55.240 We took wipe the dust off and you know, rocked 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.560 with the songs or whatever, but most of them is 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.440 just versus that nobody never heard before, especially you know what. 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:05.520 I'm saying, something Al has like it's like crazy versus 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:06.200 like for real. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.160 But you know, I was giving some verses from the 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.840 family and I just you know, technology, you could just 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.840 take a verse if it's like ninety two bpms, you 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.840 could put it down an eighty eight, or you could 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.399 speed it up to one hundred, so it's like kind 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:18.000 of seamless. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.040 How was the family were doing this? Did the family 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:22.960 want a new mob Deep album out where they cool 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.840 with it or they were like they was cool with it. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:27.840 They was cool with it, but they just wanted to 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:29.960 make sure that they was part of the process and 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.400 that they wasn't left out. So you know, the first 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.400 time that we started working on an album, we had 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.880 Prodigy's daughter there, you know what I'm saying, and getting 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.839 her blessings, and she was, you know, she was kind 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:41.720 of got a little emotional when she was hearing her 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.280 fall the you know what I'm saying as me and 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.840 I was getting emotional listening to Prodigy talk like you know, 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:48.960 Acappella talk about yo, I see you on the other 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:50.560 side and you know, I love you. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:51.680 It's crazy. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.240 How was your relationship with before he passed? 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.000 It was actually I feel like I got my friend back, 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.040 you know what I mean, because right before he passed, 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.520 like real talk, we was shopping in Whole Foods, you know, 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:03.200 trying to get on. 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:03.959 A healthy path. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.840 And he after we did that, he knocked on my 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.120 hotel though, like he never comes to my room. 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.560 Came to my room, and we was just kicking it, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:12.560 like just trying. 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.200 To go down a healthy journey because you know, we 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.000 had had, you know, a little dust up before that. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.360 What was that dust up for? Because I always was saying, 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.600 like Mob Deep is that one crew r like them? 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.639 They are never like they just so from the same area. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.760 They didn't been through beefs and this and that and 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:30.680 problems with money, like they didn't been through it all. 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.440 So I figured they outre have one group that like Nah, 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.040 but y'all had a little situation at one point. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.840 I just say this, like when it comes to alcohol, 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.080 just stay away from social media. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.240 You know what I'm saying. It just lay that alone. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.800 Some things like brothers go through things, but that's supposed 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.360 to be behind the scenes, you feel me. So it 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.560 was just built up frustration and me taking to social media, 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.640 like I wasn't taught to go to social media, and 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:55.680 they are all my differences. So that's something that I did. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:04:00.240 And Prodigy kept it like real classy like with it. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.080 He was, you know what I'm saying, a class general 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.920 where that he didn't even engage in that little dust stuff. 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.920 But you know, it was a little strain on a relationship. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:10.920 We broke up for like a year, then we came 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:14.720 back together toward and then slowly but surely just kept 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:15.920 building that brotherhood back. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:17.800 And after that breakup, how did y'all get back together? 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.800 Like what was that conversation? Who reached out first or 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:20.560 who put y'all together? 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.360 Because we both got friends in common, right, so it 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.400 wasn't like yo, okay today, y'all go to meet up. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:26.400 It was like that. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.520 Gradual, gradual, graduate, graduate, and then we just end up 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.240 in the studio together, you know what I'm saying, And 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.360 it was like nothing never happened, right, Like the beat 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:34.880 is up and we just like, yeah, you know what 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.080 I'm saying, So we're gonna through X, Y and Z 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.400 and you know what I mean. But we did get 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.599 a chance to kind of like talk. You know, you know, 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.880 I know him since I was fifteen, you know what 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.440 I'm saying. So that was like my brother brother for real, 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.919 you know what I'm saying. And it was just crazy 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:56.000 when he passed. How close we was getting before that. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:57.799 And y'all were in Vegas when we passed, right. 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:58.839 Yeah, we was in Vegas. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.039 We had just did this, like, you know, one of 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.520 those shows I think iced t be throwing those tours. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.480 With a lot of the old school artists or whatever. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:10.200 Nordy was did ray Kuonic Ghosts and he wasn't feeling well, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.120 and you know, I just thought it was just like 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.400 one of those regular Sigacell crisis and he'll be back 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.600 home in New York. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:18.960 Yeah? 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.000 Is there because I know that this is uh you 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.279 work with Master Pil to drop this. Is there anything 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.120 just because this is also people are looking at this 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.400 as like a comeback project or like a return project, 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.120 but it's also a tribute as well. Is there anything 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.680 when people are listening to the music from Prodigy that 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.800 we haven't heard, like when you were putting together and 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.760 producing all of this, Like what was the message you 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.400 wanted his fans to get from him in hearing him again. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.200 Well, you know, I don't think that it was so 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.800 much of me, like wanting a message to be put 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.559 out there about Prodigy. The fans know what they wanted, 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.640 you know what I mean, Like I'm constantly getting harassed 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.400 by the fans, like yo, when you're putting out that 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.279 Mam Deep album. I mean, look, I don't got no 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:00.960 control over that, you know what I'm saying, Like I 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:02.440 don't own Prodigy versus. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.040 So it was a process, you know what I mean. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.040 But you know, I hope that you know, the supporters 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.440 get from it, like Yo, you know, p was one 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.839 of the illest MC's out there, and I think that 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.120 you know, he had some unfinished business, was there. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.000 What was the pressure like for you if any, because 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.040 this has been what since twenty fourteen since you're. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.320 Yeah, the pressure was crazy, you know what I'm saying, 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.680 because of course, you know, the music landscape been changed, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:25.520 you know what I'm saying, Oh Ma all Deep, But 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.680 we stay in our lane. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:29.200 You know what I mean. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.360 And I just kind of like, that's all I wanted 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:32.960 to do, is just stay in our lane. I try 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.600 to go above and beyond and trying to sound like 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.599 I'm doing some drill music or something like that, you 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:37.920 know what I mean. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:39.320 I just wanted to stay mall deep. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.000 Now you did this still with NAS's Mass Appeal. She 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.320 just mentioned, Yeah, how involved was NAS with this project? 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.680 And why did y'all decide to sign with the NAS 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.320 to do the collaboration with Massapell. 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.719 Nas kind of like took the hands off approach, you 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:54.200 know what I mean. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:56.640 We trusted Nas, you know what I mean. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:07:00.080 We know, of course obviously since the beginning, you know 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.920 what I mean, from the top, and he in position 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:03.479 right now, you know what I mean, So we, like 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.520 tons of people would have did them all deep album, 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:07.960 you know what I mean. But at the end of 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.480 the day, it was like who do we trust? I 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.440 trust NOAs you know what I mean. I'm like, okay, 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.800 he over there, Mass Appeal. We sat with them and 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.360 it wasn't about the money. It's just more like who 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.960 would do justice to the project, you know what I mean? 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.320 And we trusted Nods for that, and you know, he 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.400 took a hands off approach. But when it was time to, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.760 you know, give a little bit of critique, he gave it. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.760 He did two verses on it as well three three 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.600 verses on Yeah, I mean three verses for nas. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:34.680 You know what I'm saying. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.080 I think that's a good way to go out, you 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.000 know what I mean. On the ma All Deep album 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:42.160 and that was cool, you know, featuring her, Georgia Smith, 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.560 you know, due two phenomenal artists, and Porter Henny y. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.120 You know Clips as well was on the album as well. 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.400 I wanted to I see a lot of your stories 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:53.320 have been going viral. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.040 The last couple of days. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.920 Right, of course, the Park stories always go viral, the 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.720 jay Z stories go viral. But the mind frame back 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.400 then when you felt like the West Coast was taking 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.080 a stab at the East right, and y'all said, nah, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.640 this can't happen. Break that down, because y'all will probably 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:09.280 wanted the first to jump out the window and be 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.680 like we riding all day long, and how difficult was 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.840 it when y'all were torring and going to these markets 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.920 and seeing these people, And did you ever run into 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.520 any of the people that you shot at me on record? 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.840 I should say, yo, check it out. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.360 Like when you in places like Minneapolis and you see 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.160 people throwing up gang signs and holding up TUPOC posters, 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:28.640 you don't even know if you're gonna make it out 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:28.840 of it. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.120 You understand on what I'm saying. So that's that, you 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:31.640 know what i mean. 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.319 Never mind going to the West Coast, you know what 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.760 I'm saying. But you know, back in those days, we 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:37.560 was in our twenties. 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:38.920 You know what I'm saying. We invincible. 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:43.200 We like what we got beef is on. I'm surprised 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.920 more artists in New York didn't come out swinging. You 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.720 understand what I'm saying. This is NYC, and yeah, we 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.760 love our West Coast brethrooms for sure, but we gonna 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.120 let you know. If you clap with us, we're gonna 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:53.560 clap back. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:54.120 You know what I'm saying. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.880 You know, a couple of artists came represented New York, 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.240 but not in a way where were like, yops, y'all 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.520 kick Adella, Like nah, you know what I'm saying, We're 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:03.040 not letting. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:03.160 You do that. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.439 But it was it was it was a test, you 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.760 know what I'm saying, Because it was it was serious 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:09.480 back then. 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.280 People was getting shot and things of that nature. But 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:13.920 we came out. We we survived it. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:15.839 And you never ran into anybody on the West Coast. 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.160 You never ran into a park back and it ain't nobody. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.840 Nah, And it's not like we was hotting, you understand 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.880 what I'm saying, Like we went, we was in La. 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.560 We had to be in La, you know, to promote 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:26.439 the project. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.880 But he passed you know what I'm saying, Like when 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.600 the People was about to be on we came out 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.480 with a project that's we was about to Hell on 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.080 Earth and he got shot, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.520 That kind of just made everything like. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.600 And y'all like to switch singles because they said the 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.760 single was La La Right he got killed or. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.120 Shot right, because it was no, it was drop a 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:46.960 gem on them, drop a gym on it was drop 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.480 a gym on it. We put that out and it 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.680 was going on fire, like you know what I'm saying. 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.960 You know, quite saying another station, but I'm. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:54.720 Just this history. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.960 Yeah, so it was it was going viral so to 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.640 speak for back then, you know what i mean. But 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.280 then he got shot and it's like, yo, son, let's 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.160 pull the record, like me and Pete like, yo, let's 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.480 pull it. Not even the label saying that, And we 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:10.960 pulled the record and then eventually he definitely passed away. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:12.440 So it was like damn, but we put it on 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.000 an album. 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:15.480 And pulling the record. I mean, I know it's common 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.040 sense to be like, okay, you're pulling it because now 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.679 things are like so serious. But in that moment where 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:23.320 y'all made that decision, the conversations, like I think a 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.200 lot of people hear these stories too, and it just 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:26.920 sounds like it's not kind of like almost like a 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.960 folk tell to us. But you were like in that moment, 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.360 like what's the feeling of like is it okay? We 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:33.959 want to pull it because we just don't even want 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.280 to be involved in this anymore, even though you're already there, 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:37.520 or is it like out of respect? 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:41.079 Like what's the real like like for real, for real? 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.160 Yeah, like why pull it? Because at that point, y'all 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.400 are already like we hear we doing this, like we're 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:46.280 poking out our chest. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.679 Look, at the end of the day, he was a brother. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:50.439 He was our brother. 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.400 Like we might have beef with them and all of that, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.360 but we don't wish death on nobody. 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:55.440 You understand what I'm saying. 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.240 And we're not that thirsty like to be like shit, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.440 whatever he did, like keep a movie like that would 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.560 have been bad taste anyway, you know what I'm saying 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:04.640 it have been tasteless, so we. 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.400 Just like, nah, this just pull it, you know what 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.800 I mean? You know your relationship with Big was not 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:14.480 the best, but what you mean was it good? Because 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.160 I thought the relationship wasn't necessarily the greatest. You and Big, 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:17.840 oh for real? 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:19.880 Me me and BMG we got the same birthday. 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.880 Oh, I didn't know that. Did y'all ever have conversations 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.319 to say, because y'all were both getting shot at like crazy? 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.200 Did y'all ever have conversations like let's do this together 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:29.280 right now? 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.400 Unfortunately? That's another one that passed away so early. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.520 You understand what I'm saying, because you know, Puff said, Yo, 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.320 come to the studio. I need you to do some 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.280 music with Big. I didn't even know the locks gonna 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.439 be on the song last Days. So I'm in there 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.720 doing that. He in another room because I guess he 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.280 was recording like crazy back then. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:48.160 You know, you know what I mean. 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:52.760 So we never got a chance to really have a conversation. 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.240 We went on tour together, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.040 The last memories I have are Big is being in 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.520 Ohio and were supposed to go on but Big was 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.679 like f that I'm going on before y'all because they 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.040 spraying Mason the crowd like like like you know, like 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:08.960 the gang members is wild that I ain't even know 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.640 Ohio had gangs like that, but those are the memories 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.760 I have on him. So we didn't get a chance 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.720 to like really kick it kick it. But I think 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.800 if had he lived longer, we would have probably been 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.040 partying together, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.360 Same birthday, Gemina to me. 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.360 How did watching you know the depth of Tupac and 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.839 then a Biggie change how you felt about just being 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.800 an artist at the time, Like were you scared? 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.520 But didn't change cause y'all ain't stop beefing. Y'all kept going. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:33.760 Y'all never stopped. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.360 Nah, you know what. To be honest with you, it 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:41.520 was like I felt it was mad disrespectful. You understand 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:42.000 what I'm saying. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:46.080 For Like, it's like, no, like you just killing artists 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:47.320 like y'all just you know what I'm saying. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:48.480 I understand, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.439 Artists is human beings, but it's like no respect for 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.640 the artists, like y'all just murking the artist. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.840 So that had me super. 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.800 Concerned, Like you know, I'm like, wow, like it's you know, 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.880 you already got your concerns when you going on to 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.480 making sure you're safe, but now just people just get 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.800 out of here, like by you going you nah, that 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.280 was crazy? 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.199 You know what I always wanted to ask. I always 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.120 tell everybody if we have a hip hop conversation, my 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:13.800 favorite beat EV and I think I told you before, 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.160 it's shook Ones. Right, It's just when you think of 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.680 hip hop, there's nothing that out hip hop shook ones. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:22.040 Just the raw, just uncut. It doesn't sound like it's 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.640 ever filtered. It was just doesn't feel like it's never mixed, 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.720 and it just feels like that. But I also feel 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.320 like when a lot of times when they talk about 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.960 some of the greatest producers in this industry and in 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.120 the game, they don't mention you, right, how does that 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.880 make you feel? Because they'll mention, they'll mention the Dres, 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.840 they'll mention so many other people, but I never a 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:42.920 lot of times I don't hear habit. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.199 I mean, you know, it could get frustrating, you know 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.640 what I'm saying. It gets frustrating, you know, when your 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.800 name is not being mentioned when you feel like it 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.960 should be mentioned. But at the same time, we never 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.320 got nominated for Grammys. And I'm sure we had albums 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.320 that was platinum at gold during the time when the 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.440 other artists wept gold and that, you know, and we 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:03.679 never got nominated. 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.320 So I just feel like it's in the same vein. 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.880 But you know what, my piers, you know what I'm 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:09.800 saying when I see them, Like I just seen Doctor 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.360 dra the other day, he like, Yo, you inspired me. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.719 And I'm looking at him like, like, you know what 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.199 I'm saying, like you inspired me? But I feel him. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.760 I understand what he's saying, because we all inspire each other. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.960 So things like that kind of negate the frustration I 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.960 feel of not being mentioned because I could see somebody 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:28.600 like Doctor Dre and they be like, yo, son, like 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.320 you know what I mean, And that's all I be needing. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.400 That's all you need say. They were Prodigy with lyrics. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.360 I think a lot of people don't necessarily understand how 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.680 nice he was lyrically, and he doesn't get into a 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.480 lot of those conversations as well either. He don't. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.320 But then you have somebody like Jay Z. 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.480 If you ask him a question about Prodigy, he'd be like, 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.320 Prodigy was one of those ones, you. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.280 Understand what I'm saying. 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:52.400 So when people don't involve him in a conversation, but 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.400 they rapper's favorite rapper is screaming their name, like not 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.280 screaming they name, but giving them the credit. I think 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:02.760 sometimes that's that's the just dude. Sometimes eventually the generation 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.240 is just gonna come after us when they start doing 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.200 their little investigation like we used to do with the 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.240 Maybe not tell you because you're a little younger, but 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.640 you know, with the seventies, like we pulling like James 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.400 Brown were pulling all these stylistic blue Magic, They're gonna 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.560 start pulling those mob deep records and be like, damn, 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:19.040 what's this? 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:20.880 This sounded crazy. I didn't know all that other stuff. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.120 They're supposed to be top forty, you know what I mean. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.840 And how you mentioned Jay? How did that beef ever start? 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.000 And do you ever regret never producing for a whole? 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:30.200 Is that one of the things? 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.640 Off top? Of course, you know what I'm saying. As 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.440 a producer, you want to produce for the best. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.560 Of producer for every New York great, but right. 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.680 Right, that's that's the one I'm chasing, you know what 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:40.040 I mean. 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:45.840 But shout out the whole. But look, when that beef happened, 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:47.720 I had to stay with my brother. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:48.720 How did it start? 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:49.560 Oh? 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.760 It started because back to what we was talking about 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:57.000 with the you know, stupid crust, the buildings, and then 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.560 we came with La La, and then I think Prodigy 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.720 seen an all the cool with uh. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:02.640 Matter of fact, I. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.880 Think jay Z said something in his line about New 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.800 York and sought since he didn't appreciate it. And then 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.400 he says something in a magazine that called hold out 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:12.840 his name. 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.280 Oh is it? You know what I'm saying, This is 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:17.920 a call tax sport. He you know what I'm saying. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.320 He and his prolem he going right back at Prodigy. 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:22.600 So it just started right there. 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:24.840 Do you feel like that beef hurt Bob Deep. 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.600 I'm not gonna say that it hurt mall Deep, but 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.040 it could have did a little nice little delay, you 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.880 know what I mean, Because when you got somebody like 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.560 that just coming at you, you know what I'm saying, 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.920 it's like it's start chipping away at you know that Almah. 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.320 I always wanted to know what Na said during that 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.480 time when you because y'all all be fing together right 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.520 the nads ever say yo, let's do this together. Like 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:48.680 what was that conversation? 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.200 Like, nah, he was on his lone wolf real quick, 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:52.840 you know what I mean. He came out with that ether. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.000 It was like, you know what I mean, nobody saw 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.840 it coming, you know what I mean, we never ever 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.840 had a conversation about like Yo, yeah, man, let's let's 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:01.320 go get them. 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.800 Let's jump them, let's jump them. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:08.119 Now that said, what what myths about mob deep do 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.919 you hear and you don't correct or you hear you 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.000 kind of laugh at I know, there's the one with 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.320 the high hat sound and like the burner and still 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:18.840 I'm still kind of confused about that. Was it a 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:19.320 real burner? 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:19.480 Was? 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.120 And I saw two different answers at one point in time. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:23.720 But there's a lot of myths out there about you 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.240 guys that you sometimes you say are better than the 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:27.600 actual story. So you just let it rock. 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.000 I mean the one that you just said with the stove, 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:31.720 like you know what I mean, Everybody keeps saying like, 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.040 it's the stove, it's the stove. I'm not going to 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.439 tell them if it's the stove or not. I just 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.639 love the mystique of the stove. It's like that's a 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:39.840 people like what. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:40.800 The hell y' so? 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.440 And shook Ones part two. There's the flicking sound and 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.320 it sounds like you, you know, you crank up the 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:49.600 stove and like kick. Yeah. So at one point I 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.200 thought I saw an interview from you and you said 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.480 that it was a stove and you recorded it. I 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.119 think I was drink champs. And then I saw another 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.640 interview where you were like it was a high hat. 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.360 That you used, right, yeah, yea. I'll be mestling with them, 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:01.800 you know what I'm saying. I just I just be 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.480 messing with it, like I'm never going to reveal that one. 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:09.840 Why because just the you know, it sounds better, you know, 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.200 than the than the actual truth. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.320 So, and I know, you guys got the comic book 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.919 series that kind of leans into all of the myths 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:20.639 about mob Deep is you guys, slick Rid ghost Face Nas. 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.800 It's like a one time only series. So are y'all 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:24.919 talking about more of the myths in that limited comic 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:26.720 book series or is it just something that. 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:28.720 Well when they was making it, they was asking me, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.240 like what you think your strengths would be if you 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.040 would be you know what I'm saying a you know, 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.159 a superhero or whatever, and it was asking me what 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.640 I think prodigy strengths would be, and I just kind 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.840 of gave them that, like, you know, everybody wanted to fly, 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.560 be like Superman or have some kind of secret power, 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:44.480 you know what I mean. So I don't think it 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.640 added to us like any kind of myth, but more 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.400 along the lines of, like. 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.240 If you had superpowers, what would which one would you pick? 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:52.760 Got you? I thought it was going to lean into 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:54.679 like all of the old, like the hip hop stories 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.720 that we hear that we don't ever get real answer. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:57.800 That's a good angle. 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.240 I like that might have to massive pill love to start, 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.360 you know what I mean, revamp. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.119 Some of the I did with the rollout right now 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.239 that you're doing because a lot of those conversations are 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.200 coming back up, people are learning it for the first time. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.320 How different is it for you now promoting your music 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.040 and having these conversations with social media versus you know, 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.680 not even the last album, but like early on days 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:19.800 when y'all were running around. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:21.880 I mean, it's way different because now you know, back 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:23.720 in them days, we didn't have no social media. 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:24.760 We didn't have none of that. 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.240 So you know, the things that we're doing now, like 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.760 hitting mad, podcasts up and things of that nature. Is like, 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.639 it feels kind of different, but it's the work that 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.159 you put in when you're putting out a project. 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:36.680 You know what I'm saying. 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:38.680 I love doing it. I love this time, you know 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.440 what I mean. I get to really, you know, show 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:43.920 what mab deep is all about. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.719 What artist came to you for a beat and you 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:48.920 turned them down and then you kind of went back 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:50.240 and like, damn, I should have did that beat? Was 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:51.400 there any one of those artists? 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:55.040 Uh? Damn, I don't. I don't think so. I don't 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:55.359 think so. 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:59.000 You know, when I do work with artists, you know, 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.040 not out of ten, I'm feeling them, you know what 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.919 I mean. But if I didn't want to work with 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:06.840 the artists, they definitely didn't hear back from me. 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:07.480 You know what I'm saying? 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:09.040 What beat did you give away? You wish you didn't 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:10.400 give away? You would have kept to yourself? 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.880 Nah, I or every track there that I gave away 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:16.479 I was fine with, you know what I mean. 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.000 I don't think I gave away anything now. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:20.600 I always I always like to ask because these are 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:22.440 my two favorite beats, My two favorite hip hopp beats. 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.480 I want you to break down when you created shit 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.840 ones and when you create a choir star right? And 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.800 whose choice was it to put of every artist out 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:33.480 there while little chmp. So let's start off with breaking 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.600 down ship ones. So where were you when you made it? Create? 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:37.879 When you made shit ones? And did you know that 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:38.760 was gonna be what it was? 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:39.760 Shook Ones? 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.520 I made that in my in Queen's Village, in my 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.240 mom's apartment where I grew up at right, thirty records 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.400 all over the floor, scratch pop, vinyl. Didn't even really 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.399 know what I was doing. Then the crew came in 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.560 the crib Prodigy all in this, say what's this? I 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:54.920 was like, Oh, it's whatever, whatever. I'm about to turn 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:56.760 the computer, you know, the drum machine. No no, no, no, 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.400 no no, don't don't don't turn it off. 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.840 Keep it. Kept it. We did a song to it. 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:04.360 Actually we had to Shook one part two, and then 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:07.159 part one, and then this became part two and it 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.080 took off. I had no idea what was going to 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:13.800 do that quiet Storm. I ran out of samples, you 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:15.639 know what I mean, I ran out of anything to sample. 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:19.560 So I'm just looking at this sugar Hill Gang record, Like, damn, 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.520 let me just try you for now, because that's a 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.639 record that I always passed, like you know, white lines 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.000 and all of that. Nobody's not putting that on, you 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.159 know what I mean. So put that on, sampled it. 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.840 I said, let me slow it down maybe like you know, 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.240 slow it down, throw some rim shots to it, and 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:36.840 just did it. 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:38.240 Didn't think nothing of it. 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:40.920 Prodigy used to come to my house go in the 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.280 basement to the studio while I'm sleep and then when 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:44.959 I went down, he's like, yo, have what's this. I 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.280 was like this whatever, It wasn't nothing, and he did 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.960 a whole solo song to it, and then we ended 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:54.119 up making it the first single on I believe it 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:57.399 was Murder Music. And I was kind of a little 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:59.560 upset by then because Chris Lighty, God bless the day. 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:01.080 He was like, yeah, we making this the first single. 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:02.879 I'm like, yo, I'm not on it. You know what 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:04.920 I'm saying. He was like, you made the beat. 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.960 And I think that was the time when now everybody's 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:09.960 just looking at me as a producer and not even 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:13.159 a rapper. So that was a that's another story, you 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:14.879 know what I mean. That I'm getting looked at it 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.119 just as a producer when I just be trying to, like, 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:19.359 you know, write my life away on the paper. 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:20.520 But it's all good. 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:22.280 And then how did y'all get what was the decision 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.000 to put Little Kim? Why Little Kim of all the 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:26.160 at that time? Why Kim? 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.159 I mean, come on, ever, you know what time it is. 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:29.680 We go to the club right now, I'm mall deeps 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:31.720 in the clubs. It's a saucetrege sveets right, you. 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:32.280 Know what I'm saying. 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:34.200 So we like, yo, we need to we need to 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:36.520 get the chicks involved. Who could get who? We could 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.639 get Little Kim? And she agreed to do it. 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:41.399 That I went to the studio, I seen her in 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:45.200 there writing her verse. She sung a hookover. I'm telling 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.399 you that record took off off like you couldn't. 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:50.440 It was genius. It was to the day where you 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.040 could put out a street record and it could be 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.840 a single. And this day is Kim's one of Kim's 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:58.480 biggest verses. It just connects hot, damn hole, here we 0:22:58.600 --> 0:22:59.040 go again. 0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:01.840 And she got that little the dance that she do 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.560 to this day, to this day, to this day. 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:06.600 Yeah, I was thinking about you. You mentioned like going 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:08.600 in the club and like using that and bringing that 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:10.840 back into the music. Maybe some artists do that now, 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.040 but I think a lot of artists are geared toward 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.960 like TikTok and numbers and research because the industry has changed. 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.000 And he always talks about how lit the club scene 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.560 in New York was, and all the artists and all 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:22.000 the things. 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.680 Like I was tell her that everybody used to be outside. Yeah, 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:28.760 when we were always columbing like it was, there were 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:31.440 no I would say, Richard broke it was. It would 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:33.960 be the dude from the block on the left side, 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:37.480 right mob deep on the right, in this corner, kimming 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:40.000 them on this side. You would see Knaves was always 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.080 in the cup by himself somehow, some way, wiggling in 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:44.600 and out. You would see the lost boys. You just 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.359 see so many. You would see everybody in the club, 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.560 and you would see how music reacts. And like you said, 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:54.160 it wouldn't matter you play the Gangster's record. Girls was rapping, 0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.080 dudes is rapping, And we would go from club to 0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:59.120 club night tonight. It was just a feeling in New York. 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.520 I always tell about that. You just could never change. 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.080 It was just something about that. 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.159 I mean, it was an amazing time, you know what 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.520 I mean. Like when Street Records was you was able 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.840 to dance to it. You didn't have to make a 0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.719 radio record, you know what I mean. But once your 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:19.119 record took off in the clubs, you was kind of 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:21.000 like pretty much out of it. I think the clubs 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:24.760 dictated hits, which. 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:26.239 Is not as much anywhere. And I know you got 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.160 the tour that you're going on with Ray Kwan. 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:30.920 Yep, we got that the thirtieth anniversary of the Cuban 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.879 Links and the infamous album We're Gonna do the US, 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:35.680 you know about like eighteen. 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:37.240 Dates or whatever, and that's dope. 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.560 Actually got rehearsal with Ray Kwan later on today, you 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:42.200 know what I mean, because we taking it serious, like 0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:43.920 you know, we some ogs. You know, she gotta do 0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:45.440 our two steps, make sure we're good. 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.520 I wanted to know too when you signed with fifty, 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:51.720 When y'all did the deal with fifty, Yeah, break that down. 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.240 And while y'all decided to sign that deal, and where 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:55.720 were y'all at that point as far as. 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:56.240 Mob deep to you. 0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:58.359 I mean, if you get off of some ferraris, you 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:03.159 gotta go side the deal absolutely, but nah, fifty called me. 0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.119 We was free agents at that point. I think we 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:06.000 had been on jove. 0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.520 If we sold one hundred and fifty thousand records the 0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.560 first week, that wasn't good enough for job today. I 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.480 mean that's like probably platinum or something like that. 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.280 Absolutely, but it was. 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:17.720 Happy with exactly, So I guess we was ahead of 0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:22.080 our time or not whatever it is. But fifty called me, 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:24.879 and I had already worked with fifty, like maybe a 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.520 year before that before he was bubbling on the mixtaps, 0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:29.840 I remember, and he was one of my favorite artists, 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.320 you know what I'm saying. We did bump that and 0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.800 clapped those things or whatever, and that was supposed to 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:36.880 be for my solo album, loud Folded never came out. 0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:38.600 And then the next thing, you know, a year later, 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:42.159 somebody ain't fifty cents just going bubbling, right, So we 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.680 kept that relationship going, and by the time we became 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:46.959 free agents, gave me a call said I don't want 0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:47.600 to sign y'all. 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.439 He swept us up into the g unit. Umbrella went 0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.359 on tour and restless history. 0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.600 Why how come you never signed more artists? Because you 0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:58.880 you were the producer, you were the artist. How could 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.680 you could have I'm sure signed fifty early on besides Bennoy, 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.960 who did y'all true? You know what it is? 0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.440 I guess I haven't ever found the artist that I 0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:09.600 truly like, yo, like I can. 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.200 I just don't want to sign somebody just to sign somebody, 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.159 like I guess my my bar is high, you know, 0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.800 I really want to sign that artist. Now, this is 0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:19.879 an artist that I did want to sign that she 0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.520 wasn't signed at the time. It was a Jazmine Sullivan. 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:26.000 She just came into like right because back then I 0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.600 was like getting people to throw reference vocals and Steve 0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.520 I was working with stevebej and he knew her and 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:33.879 got her to the studio and I. 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.879 Was like, god damn. I was like, Yo, she's nice, 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:37.520 you know what I mean. 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.000 But she's one of those artists that you know it's 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.840 going to get a major record deal and get signed. 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:44.640 You got to come with the business if you want 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.520 to sign a Jazmine cellibent. But for instance, like, I 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.960 don't run across artists like that all the time, and 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:51.720 those are the artists that I really would have, you 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:53.680 know what I mean? And they feud fall between. 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.240 So you didn't sign her only because the deal situation 0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:57.840 was gonna be what you thought should be. Like, how 0:26:57.880 --> 0:26:58.520 did that not move? 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:00.720 I wasn't ready, you know, I'm saying, I ain't gonna 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.480 lie for you know, female artists is like hot maintenance. 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:04.640 You know what I'm saying. It come with a lot, 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.200 you know what I'm saying, not to you know what 0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:06.560 I'm saying. 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:10.480 I mean cause you got gam and branding. And I 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:16.040 will say, although Jasmine Archie is a little different, but 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.600 Jasmine Sullivant is one of the best singers period in 0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:21.720 the game, right. But I feel like it took people 0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.280 so long. It was hotels for me when people even 0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.119 started recognizing her the way that they should have. And 0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.240 she had been working for so long before that, so 0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.240 I'm sure a lot of money was poured into that. 0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.160 So I understand what you're saying, But y'all didn't even 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.200 have a conversation and attempt to see like what she 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:36.480 would save to your offer. 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:39.680 I had the conversation in my mind, you know what 0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.680 I'm saying, Like I wish that I you know, because 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:44.560 I was just you know, I was in my own way, 0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.440 you know what I mean. But the artist in me 0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:49.399 wanted her to shine, you know what I mean, and 0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.280 not even you know, try to get in her way. 0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.720 But you know that's what it is, like I never 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:55.600 come across. 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.639 All this or that caliber. It's really hard, right, Like 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:00.879 you know, so I want. 0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.359 To go back to the fifty sign y'all conversation. I 0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.760 know when you guys signed with fifty and drop music. 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:09.160 A lot of the fans were happy about that, yeah. 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.240 Because you know what I always say it like this, 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.200 fans are like your parents, right, they never want to 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:16.760 see the kids grow, right. 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.000 Oh, I want you to stay my baby, Please don't 0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.960 get older. And that's what artists are to the supporters 0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:23.960 and fans, right. They never want to see them go. 0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.560 Outside the box or grow a little bit commercial, right, 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.760 because it is just ruined, you know that that relationship 0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:34.040 that they have. And I believe that the our fans, right, 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.359 because it probably was a mix of the audiences together. 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.080 Like on one hand, fifty is grimmy, right, like he 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.640 got the streets on lock, but then he went super commercial, right, 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.760 and sometimes you know the streets they kind of resent 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.040 that commercialness, you know what I'm saying of an artist 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.200 going that big because they just want that foundational music, 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.040 and they probably were scared that once we signed a 0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.360 G unit that we was probably gonna become this commercial group. 0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:01.880 But it couldn't have been further from the truth, because. 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.320 The point of y'all sign of that deal was you 0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.320 wanted that expansion of the of the business. Do you 0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.800 feel like at that point, y'all make it? Because when 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:09.680 you released from the contract, there was no more business 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:10.520 with fifty after right? 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:10.800 No? 0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:12.960 And was that because of the way that the fans 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:13.600 reactor or. 0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:15.200 No, no, no, No, It wasn't because of that. 0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.960 I think it was a lot of different factors surrounding 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.680 that whole G unit In the scope thing, you know, 0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.720 I think fifty was getting pushed back at in the 0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:27.880 scope regardless of anything because he was just so you know, 0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:32.080 strong minded, you know what I mean. And at that time, 0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.760 it's like, okay, we sold this amount of records, all right, 0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:36.880 you know, got ahead, do what y'all need to do, 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.880 because fifty was fighting really hard to push us, and 0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.120 he was getting a lot of pushback, Like MTV wasn't habited, 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:44.600 you know what I mean. 0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:48.200 They was like, play what mall deep with? You know 0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:49.960 what I'm saying, And he would just sneak us. 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:51.760 On TRL with him. You know what I mean, Like, 0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:53.320 come on, you know what I mean. They didn't want us, 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:57.440 did Why because we don't fit into the job of 0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:00.440 music y' yeah we don't. We We from the streets, 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:01.280 like you know what I'm saying. 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.640 They like, you know, they you know, they gate keeping 0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.720 a little bit up there. They like, Nah, were good. 0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:07.960 You know what I'm saying, Give us somebody else. 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.560 Do you feel like because I asked a question to 0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.920 get here, do you feel like because of the box? 0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:15.720 I guess that the fans kind of put you guys in. 0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:18.920 It hurt my deep as a business looking back then 0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:20.120 to where things are now. 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.560 Man, it's different ways to look at that. I would 0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.520 say no, right, because staying true to your fan base, 0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.440 it's cool, you know what I'm saying. I mean, you 0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:31.840 don't really want to do nothing outside of that. Like 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.200 I'm not trying to make no pop records with like 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.360 Christina Aguilera and all of that stuff. I mean, you 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.640 know what I mean, because it's not who I am now. 0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:40.959 The music just becomes fake, you understand. 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.800 But if I was of that, then sure we'll make it. 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:45.880 Like certain artists was able to do that, but that 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.960 wasn't mall deep now, and if we was gonna go 0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.280 that direction, we should have started that early on. 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.800 But that wasn't mal deep. We started grassroots from the bottom. 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.280 Like you know, I do. Got a question. You produce 0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:01.840 for Big fifty, Nas, Meth, Kanye, Wes, Eminem, ll, Mariah, 0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.200 just the name of a few. Who is your favorite 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.160 to work with besides producty? Who was your favorite to 0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.000 work with with with production? And why? 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:09.440 Uh? 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.120 My favorite artist to work with that I produced for, 0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:19.240 I would have to say, Uh, probably was like Jadakiss, Wow, 0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:22.720 a little Kim, because those are artists that I really 0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.360 respect and revealed. I mean, like Jadakiss is like one 0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.680 of the best lyricists out there, so like to work 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:35.760 with him. You know, it's a pleasure because he compliments 0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.280 your beat so well. You could give him a trash 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:39.080 beat and he make. 0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:40.440 It sound good. You understand what I'm saying. 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.680 So it was it was really a pleasure because he 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.840 and he you know, he's kind of humble when it 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:46.920 comes to you know, being in the studio and the artist. 0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.600 He he wanted the producer to take him in that direction. 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.960 Now you're very humble and now with production what was 0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:54.160 your favorite beat to produce? 0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:56.320 Why? 0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:01.480 You know what I'm saying by Jada Kiss because I 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:03.600 just you know, it wasn't really too much of a 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:05.040 big deal for me when I made the beat. I 0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.440 mean the beats not don't got crazy bells and whistles, 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.640 but as you can see it, it's minimum production. But 0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.360 he just turns it into this whole big production, you 0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:17.080 know what I mean. With Anthony Hamilton. Then he's questioning, 0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.520 going why why this is why that? You know at 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:20.920 the times when we got a lot of questions. 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:22.239 So I love doing that for him. 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:26.720 Also wanted to ask, right, besides why, what was the 0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:28.680 most difficult track to get cleared? 0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:29.800 To get clear? 0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:30.480 To get clear? 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:36.840 Uh, the most difficult tract to get cleared probably was, 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.160 Uh we did a print sample one time. 0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.720 Uh hell. 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:47.680 So you had to send it to Prince. 0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.640 Yeah yeah, yeah, we said there and he was like, hell, 0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:52.320 I was at the studio with you and every day, 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.480 but little bro, we ain't clear that Prince. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:32:55.720 --> 0:33:02.600 it was me and Snoop was there too. Snoop made 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.880 the post to what happened. So I was in the 0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.440 studio with time Electric Lady, Electric Lady. 0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.920 I think he even owned the studio at one point. 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.120 It's right there on West Fall Street or whatever it was. 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:15.280 So I'm in there, we're working on the album. I 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.640 figured what album it was. And one of my homeboys 0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:19.560 that I used to just have driving me around was like, yo, 0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:21.640 princes outside, I'm like, get that out of there. 0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:26.080 You're crazy, you bugget yo. Prince walked in my session, yo. 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.400 Like pants on and he didn't. 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.720 He didn't have leather pants on, but he was like 0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:33.960 my height, and I'm sure, like you know what I'm saying. 0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.680 I was like, damn, but you know, but his presence 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.600 is just like crazy. And he started helping me. 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.719 With the keys and playing on the keys and then 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:44.840 just whist the way he just left. That. 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.200 Didn't even get a picture with him, No nothing back then. 0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.600 I don't even think the phones was ready for pictures 0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:50.880 back then, you know what I mean. 0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:52.760 But that was my Prince story. 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:54.360 So what was the beat? So he so, y'all, Actually 0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:55.320 it was some song that. 0:33:55.520 --> 0:34:00.240 Ended up I think that should not kill Yeah. 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.800 Yeah, I forgot where it ended up at, but you know, 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.920 it was snoop on the record, prints on the keys 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.200 and we just wrap it and you wouldn't even be 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.600 able to tell that Prince placed any keys on it 0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.080 because it was just really simple. But the fact that 0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.320 he did, you know what I'm saying, is something that 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:16.800 I definitely would never forget. 0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.880 That's crazy. I thought you're gonna say god Fall the Part. 0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.759 Three, Well, that was a hard tape for the Clad too. 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.120 That How did you because that was my movie. 0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.400 I mean, that's that's Steve Rifket magic. You know what 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:28.759 I'm saying. 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.160 Steve Rifket, he know how to do business to clear 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.560 some samples. So we definitely cleared that. 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:36.360 I saw a report that that song actually wasn't that 0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.680 on the Infamous Archives, but you guys didn't improve it. 0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:41.560 Maybe it was. 0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.000 I it's so long ago, I don't even remember. But 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:45.719 you you're probably right, you know what I mean? 0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:47.640 So fuzzy. 0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:49.240 Yeah, I got some memories. 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.279 No you got I wouldn't you? Do you get paid 0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.120 every time I see one of these stores sell a 0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:56.160 Mob Deep the infamous Mob Deep shirts. Do y'all get 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:56.600 paid over that? 0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:02.040 Well, if it's official merch, yes, But I combat infringement 0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.440 every day, yo, I mean, they just they I mean, 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.960 and it looks so good and so like I want. 0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:08.120 To buy it. 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.760 I'm like, wow, you know, sometimes I go to shows 0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:15.440 and they be having on this merge that I know, 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:16.680 mall deep diss sanction. 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.359 I don't want to say nothing to them, but if 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:23.200 we have a problems imagined wu tang, it's the most know. 0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.400 So these are things that we got to combat every 0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.120 day that people don't even understand. 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:30.640 Like they said, oh, it's so easy to be an 0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:32.680 artist and you y'all just sit back, you go to 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.960 the shows. Nah, there's a business aspect where you got 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.560 to protect the trademark. It's serious. 0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.320 What's the fright? I mean, it is very serious, specially 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.959 because you have so many years of so much history 0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:46.479 and y'all fans spend across so many age ranges. What's 0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:48.840 the fight like right now? Though? Like are there certain 0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:52.680 stores or people like where you even aiming to because 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.480 y'all stuff is everywhere everywhere. 0:35:54.880 --> 0:36:00.440 I mean, look, we we do license deills with certain brands, 0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:05.279 whether it be you know whoever like Supreme or thing, 0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:06.320 and that's another. 0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:06.960 Story, you know what I mean. 0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:10.840 We had a horrible time over there that something happened 0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:12.520 and they used the image and we got sued. 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.760 It was like crazy, But those are things. 0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.520 That you have to like kind of watch out for. 0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:20.000 But we license out the brand sometimes, you know what 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:24.400 I mean. But more than not, infringement is rampant. 0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.799 What Supreme y'all used the picture that y'a didn't taken. 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:30.120 The photographer came back. 0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:34.080 And it was the dragon image, you know what I'm saying. 0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.680 And I kind of forgot about it because I got 0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:39.200 the tattoo, so I'm not even really thinking about it. 0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:43.400 I think in the late nineties early two thousands, they 0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:45.640 had used the image in some group I'm not going 0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.280 to say they name, said oh that's out and nobody 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.680 knows them. They probably got like, no, lie, two hundred 0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.479 followers on Instagram. Nobody knows them, you know what I'm saying. 0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.360 But they took advantage of an opportunity. It is a 0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.799 federally trademarked image, you know what I'm saying. They got 0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:02.040 the rights and they told us back in the nineties 0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:06.200 and say hey stop and then I forgot you forget. 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.960 So pre was like, yo, is this yours? 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.960 I was like, oh yeah, yeah yeah, But you know, 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.839 the lawyers was like, okay, we're gonna check it, right, 0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:16.839 that's the lawyer's job. 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.200 They didn't check it. The lawyer said, like, I'm gonna 0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.600 check it. You understand what I'm saying. I'm like, all right, cool, 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.279 you know, go check it. I'm making beads, like you 0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.799 know what I mean. Go ahead, But you gotta really 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:34.040 be diligent because getting sued is not fun. It's not funny. 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.480 It costs a lot of money. You have to answer it. 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.560 And we settled, of course, and it's just you giving 0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.640 away free money. You understand hard working money. 0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:45.560 So and I meant to ask, you know, with all 0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.880 the stuff that you produced and all of the records 0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.319 that you've done, do you get all your money from 0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.200 that stuff? Cause you had a lot of times that 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.480 when artists do something, they don't get their money. Somebody 0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.359 else gets the money. Do you get all your money 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:57.640 from them? 0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.400 I was fortunate enough to do a publishing deal early 0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.239 that was super fit, right, I didn't sign away all 0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:07.440 my publishing, And I'm down with people that collect diligently. 0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:08.879 You know what I'm saying things. 0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:10.760 But you know, of course, there's going to be corners 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.200 pockets in the world where you're not collecting, and then 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.680 new forms pop up. They like, oh yeah, back in 0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:17.759 the days, y'all didn't know that this was over here 0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:19.480 and y'all could collect the back and there's a bag 0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:23.200 sitting over there like overseas somewhere for whatever it is. 0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.680 But for the most part, we get our bread like 0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:27.960 for real, you know what I mean. 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.080 I hear horror stories and I feel bad for all 0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.320 this and whoever took advantage of them, you know what 0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:32.680 I'm saying. 0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.319 They need to be you know, it's a special place 0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:34.600 for them. 0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:36.440 I was gonna ask, what's the biggest bag you ever 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.320 you ever missed out on, because just business wise, you 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:40.120 didn't plan for that. 0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:45.719 The biggest bag I missed out on was for a 0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.879 super Bowl commercial. They wanted to use the Mab Deep 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.800 music in the super Bowl commercial and for whatever reason, 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.160 a lawyer took too long and we missed out on 0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:55.880 the opportunity. 0:38:55.960 --> 0:39:00.759 So yeah, that hurt still hurt with this album as 0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:02.480 a passion project, because obviously you don't need the money 0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:03.239 if you're still getting paid. 0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:05.080 I ain't say that. 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.200 Infinite is out this Friday, and we appreciate you for 0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:09.719 joining us. 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:09.880 Man. 0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.160 I love these stories and I just love to see 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.360 the growth because I was a kid in Queens and 0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.400 I watch what y'all did, and we we admired that, 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.000 you know, I mean from the driving the cars, the 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:21.960 shooting the shook Ones video to all that we got 0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:23.879 a chance to see it. So the fact that you're 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.480 still heavy and you're still doing it, man, we appreciate you. 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.399 And this is we got a date for the method 0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:29.640 Man Covid Covid album. 0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:30.919 Oh yeah, the memphd Man Covid. 0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:32.680 We don't have a date, but me and him are 0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.440 actively in the studio and he tried to put me 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.399 in the head like I didn't let him, but he said, 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:37.920 we gotta. 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.680 Finish this album for a couple of months for a date, 0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:41.280 but okay. 0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.759 We'll have one. So though, thanks for joining us, though, 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:44.880 thank you, thanks for having me. 0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.400 The album comes out this Friday. It's Havoc. It's the 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:53.440 Breakfast Club. Good morning, every day, Breakfast Club. 0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:54.640 Finish y'all. 0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:54.919 Dump