Speaker 1: Don't know.
Speaker 2: Every day up waiting up the Breakfast Club, finish for
Speaker 2: y'all done morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne
Speaker 2: the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Law La Roses
Speaker 2: here as well. We got a special guest in the building.
Speaker 2: We have hav It here.
Speaker 1: Having what's up brother us going on?
Speaker 2: How you feeling real good?
Speaker 1: Real good?
Speaker 2: Having from Mob Deep of course, new album Infinite out
Speaker 2: on this Friday.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: So many questions, so many questions. So let's start off
Speaker 2: with with first, how did you put this album together?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, it was It was a long time in the
Speaker 3: making because, you know, after the untimely death of Prodigy,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It was something that I
Speaker 3: wanted to do, but it took me a minute because
Speaker 3: of you know, the family was in the grieving process.
Speaker 3: But to make a long story short, linked up with
Speaker 3: alc Alchemists and we knew we had to start, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, start the album.
Speaker 1: So flew out there.
Speaker 3: I had a couple of songs already, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, some verses from a Prodigy's family, and Alchemists
Speaker 3: had a ton of verses already, so we just started
Speaker 3: putting it together and just breaking it down.
Speaker 4: How did you I was gonna ask, how did you
Speaker 4: pick which verses? Like when you're going through Prodigy, you know,
Speaker 4: verses that we've never heard? How you picked which ones?
Speaker 4: Because we were anticipating hearing it, right.
Speaker 3: I mean it was kind of hard because I mean,
Speaker 3: to me, you know what I'm saying, all Prodigy verses
Speaker 3: is dope, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So it was hard.
Speaker 3: I mean because we ended up with like what twenty
Speaker 3: five songs and you know, ended up with fifteen, but.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you.
Speaker 3: Know, just the best ones, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: out of Prodigies versus if I could pick, it was
Speaker 3: really hard thope.
Speaker 2: Now with any of these songs done already from y'all already, Oh,
Speaker 2: these were all you had to get every new verses
Speaker 2: from you know, whether his daughter I see his daughter raps,
Speaker 2: his family or alchemists.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I thought that I was getting
Speaker 3: most of the verses was like unheard verses, but like
Speaker 3: one of them was like you know, released like fourteen
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We took wipe the dust off and you know, rocked
Speaker 3: with the songs or whatever, but most of them is
Speaker 3: just versus that nobody never heard before, especially you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, something Al has like it's like crazy versus
Speaker 1: like for real.
Speaker 3: But you know, I was giving some verses from the
Speaker 3: family and I just you know, technology, you could just
Speaker 3: take a verse if it's like ninety two bpms, you
Speaker 3: could put it down an eighty eight, or you could
Speaker 3: speed it up to one hundred, so it's like kind
Speaker 3: of seamless.
Speaker 2: How was the family were doing this? Did the family
Speaker 2: want a new mob Deep album out where they cool
Speaker 2: with it or they were like they was cool with it.
Speaker 3: They was cool with it, but they just wanted to
Speaker 3: make sure that they was part of the process and
Speaker 3: that they wasn't left out. So you know, the first
Speaker 3: time that we started working on an album, we had
Speaker 3: Prodigy's daughter there, you know what I'm saying, and getting
Speaker 3: her blessings, and she was, you know, she was kind
Speaker 3: of got a little emotional when she was hearing her
Speaker 3: fall the you know what I'm saying as me and
Speaker 3: I was getting emotional listening to Prodigy talk like you know,
Speaker 3: Acappella talk about yo, I see you on the other
Speaker 3: side and you know, I love you.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: How was your relationship with before he passed?
Speaker 3: It was actually I feel like I got my friend back,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because right before he passed,
Speaker 3: like real talk, we was shopping in Whole Foods, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to get on.
Speaker 1: A healthy path.
Speaker 3: And he after we did that, he knocked on my
Speaker 3: hotel though, like he never comes to my room.
Speaker 1: Came to my room, and we was just kicking it,
Speaker 1: like just trying.
Speaker 3: To go down a healthy journey because you know, we
Speaker 3: had had, you know, a little dust up before that.
Speaker 2: What was that dust up for? Because I always was saying,
Speaker 2: like Mob Deep is that one crew r like them?
Speaker 2: They are never like they just so from the same area.
Speaker 2: They didn't been through beefs and this and that and
Speaker 2: problems with money, like they didn't been through it all.
Speaker 2: So I figured they outre have one group that like Nah,
Speaker 2: but y'all had a little situation at one point.
Speaker 3: I just say this, like when it comes to alcohol,
Speaker 3: just stay away from social media.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It just lay that alone.
Speaker 3: Some things like brothers go through things, but that's supposed
Speaker 3: to be behind the scenes, you feel me. So it
Speaker 3: was just built up frustration and me taking to social media,
Speaker 3: like I wasn't taught to go to social media, and
Speaker 3: they are all my differences. So that's something that I did.
Speaker 3: And Prodigy kept it like real classy like with it.
Speaker 3: He was, you know what I'm saying, a class general
Speaker 3: where that he didn't even engage in that little dust stuff.
Speaker 3: But you know, it was a little strain on a relationship.
Speaker 3: We broke up for like a year, then we came
Speaker 3: back together toward and then slowly but surely just kept
Speaker 3: building that brotherhood back.
Speaker 2: And after that breakup, how did y'all get back together?
Speaker 2: Like what was that conversation? Who reached out first or
Speaker 2: who put y'all together?
Speaker 3: Because we both got friends in common, right, so it
Speaker 3: wasn't like yo, okay today, y'all go to meet up.
Speaker 1: It was like that.
Speaker 3: Gradual, gradual, graduate, graduate, and then we just end up
Speaker 3: in the studio together, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 3: it was like nothing never happened, right, Like the beat
Speaker 3: is up and we just like, yeah, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, So we're gonna through X, Y and Z
Speaker 3: and you know what I mean. But we did get
Speaker 3: a chance to kind of like talk. You know, you know,
Speaker 3: I know him since I was fifteen, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So that was like my brother brother for real,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And it was just crazy
Speaker 3: when he passed. How close we was getting before that.
Speaker 2: And y'all were in Vegas when we passed, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we was in Vegas.
Speaker 3: We had just did this, like, you know, one of
Speaker 3: those shows I think iced t be throwing those tours.
Speaker 1: With a lot of the old school artists or whatever.
Speaker 3: Nordy was did ray Kuonic Ghosts and he wasn't feeling well,
Speaker 3: and you know, I just thought it was just like
Speaker 3: one of those regular Sigacell crisis and he'll be back
Speaker 3: home in New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is there because I know that this is uh you
Speaker 4: work with Master Pil to drop this. Is there anything
Speaker 4: just because this is also people are looking at this
Speaker 4: as like a comeback project or like a return project,
Speaker 4: but it's also a tribute as well. Is there anything
Speaker 4: when people are listening to the music from Prodigy that
Speaker 4: we haven't heard, like when you were putting together and
Speaker 4: producing all of this, Like what was the message you
Speaker 4: wanted his fans to get from him in hearing him again.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I don't think that it was so
Speaker 3: much of me, like wanting a message to be put
Speaker 3: out there about Prodigy. The fans know what they wanted,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I'm constantly getting harassed
Speaker 3: by the fans, like yo, when you're putting out that
Speaker 3: Mam Deep album. I mean, look, I don't got no
Speaker 3: control over that, you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 3: don't own Prodigy versus.
Speaker 1: So it was a process, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But you know, I hope that you know, the supporters
Speaker 3: get from it, like Yo, you know, p was one
Speaker 3: of the illest MC's out there, and I think that
Speaker 3: you know, he had some unfinished business, was there.
Speaker 4: What was the pressure like for you if any, because
Speaker 4: this has been what since twenty fourteen since you're.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pressure was crazy, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because of course, you know, the music landscape been changed,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Oh Ma all Deep, But
Speaker 3: we stay in our lane.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And I just kind of like, that's all I wanted
Speaker 3: to do, is just stay in our lane. I try
Speaker 3: to go above and beyond and trying to sound like
Speaker 3: I'm doing some drill music or something like that, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to stay mall deep.
Speaker 2: Now you did this still with NAS's Mass Appeal. She
Speaker 2: just mentioned, Yeah, how involved was NAS with this project?
Speaker 2: And why did y'all decide to sign with the NAS
Speaker 2: to do the collaboration with Massapell.
Speaker 3: Nas kind of like took the hands off approach, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We trusted Nas, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We know, of course obviously since the beginning, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, from the top, and he in position
Speaker 3: right now, you know what I mean, So we, like
Speaker 3: tons of people would have did them all deep album,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, it was like who do we trust? I
Speaker 3: trust NOAs you know what I mean. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: he over there, Mass Appeal. We sat with them and
Speaker 3: it wasn't about the money. It's just more like who
Speaker 3: would do justice to the project, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And we trusted Nods for that, and you know, he
Speaker 3: took a hands off approach. But when it was time to,
Speaker 3: you know, give a little bit of critique, he gave it.
Speaker 2: He did two verses on it as well three three
Speaker 2: verses on Yeah, I mean three verses for nas.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think that's a good way to go out, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. On the ma All Deep album
Speaker 3: and that was cool, you know, featuring her, Georgia Smith,
Speaker 3: you know, due two phenomenal artists, and Porter Henny y.
Speaker 2: You know Clips as well was on the album as well.
Speaker 2: I wanted to I see a lot of your stories
Speaker 2: have been going viral.
Speaker 1: The last couple of days.
Speaker 2: Right, of course, the Park stories always go viral, the
Speaker 2: jay Z stories go viral. But the mind frame back
Speaker 2: then when you felt like the West Coast was taking
Speaker 2: a stab at the East right, and y'all said, nah,
Speaker 2: this can't happen. Break that down, because y'all will probably
Speaker 2: wanted the first to jump out the window and be
Speaker 2: like we riding all day long, and how difficult was
Speaker 2: it when y'all were torring and going to these markets
Speaker 2: and seeing these people, And did you ever run into
Speaker 2: any of the people that you shot at me on record?
Speaker 2: I should say, yo, check it out.
Speaker 3: Like when you in places like Minneapolis and you see
Speaker 3: people throwing up gang signs and holding up TUPOC posters,
Speaker 3: you don't even know if you're gonna make it out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: You understand on what I'm saying. So that's that, you
Speaker 1: know what i mean.
Speaker 3: Never mind going to the West Coast, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But you know, back in those days, we
Speaker 3: was in our twenties.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We invincible.
Speaker 3: We like what we got beef is on. I'm surprised
Speaker 3: more artists in New York didn't come out swinging. You
Speaker 3: understand what I'm saying. This is NYC, and yeah, we
Speaker 3: love our West Coast brethrooms for sure, but we gonna
Speaker 3: let you know. If you clap with us, we're gonna
Speaker 3: clap back.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know, a couple of artists came represented New York,
Speaker 3: but not in a way where were like, yops, y'all
Speaker 3: kick Adella, Like nah, you know what I'm saying, We're
Speaker 3: not letting.
Speaker 1: You do that.
Speaker 3: But it was it was it was a test, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Because it was it was serious
Speaker 3: back then.
Speaker 1: People was getting shot and things of that nature. But
Speaker 1: we came out. We we survived it.
Speaker 2: And you never ran into anybody on the West Coast.
Speaker 2: You never ran into a park back and it ain't nobody.
Speaker 3: Nah, And it's not like we was hotting, you understand
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like we went, we was in La.
Speaker 1: We had to be in La, you know, to promote
Speaker 1: the project.
Speaker 3: But he passed you know what I'm saying, Like when
Speaker 3: the People was about to be on we came out
Speaker 3: with a project that's we was about to Hell on
Speaker 3: Earth and he got shot, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That kind of just made everything like.
Speaker 2: And y'all like to switch singles because they said the
Speaker 2: single was La La Right he got killed or.
Speaker 3: Shot right, because it was no, it was drop a
Speaker 3: gem on them, drop a gym on it was drop
Speaker 3: a gym on it. We put that out and it
Speaker 3: was going on fire, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know, quite saying another station, but I'm.
Speaker 2: Just this history.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was it was going viral so to
Speaker 3: speak for back then, you know what i mean. But
Speaker 3: then he got shot and it's like, yo, son, let's
Speaker 3: pull the record, like me and Pete like, yo, let's
Speaker 3: pull it. Not even the label saying that, And we
Speaker 3: pulled the record and then eventually he definitely passed away.
Speaker 1: So it was like damn, but we put it on
Speaker 1: an album.
Speaker 4: And pulling the record. I mean, I know it's common
Speaker 4: sense to be like, okay, you're pulling it because now
Speaker 4: things are like so serious. But in that moment where
Speaker 4: y'all made that decision, the conversations, like I think a
Speaker 4: lot of people hear these stories too, and it just
Speaker 4: sounds like it's not kind of like almost like a
Speaker 4: folk tell to us. But you were like in that moment,
Speaker 4: like what's the feeling of like is it okay? We
Speaker 4: want to pull it because we just don't even want
Speaker 4: to be involved in this anymore, even though you're already there,
Speaker 4: or is it like out of respect?
Speaker 1: Like what's the real like like for real, for real?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like why pull it? Because at that point, y'all
Speaker 4: are already like we hear we doing this, like we're
Speaker 4: poking out our chest.
Speaker 1: Look, at the end of the day, he was a brother.
Speaker 1: He was our brother.
Speaker 3: Like we might have beef with them and all of that,
Speaker 3: but we don't wish death on nobody.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And we're not that thirsty like to be like shit,
Speaker 3: whatever he did, like keep a movie like that would
Speaker 3: have been bad taste anyway, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 3: it have been tasteless, so we.
Speaker 2: Just like, nah, this just pull it, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? You know your relationship with Big was not
Speaker 2: the best, but what you mean was it good? Because
Speaker 2: I thought the relationship wasn't necessarily the greatest. You and Big,
Speaker 2: oh for real?
Speaker 1: Me me and BMG we got the same birthday.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that. Did y'all ever have conversations
Speaker 2: to say, because y'all were both getting shot at like crazy?
Speaker 2: Did y'all ever have conversations like let's do this together
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 1: Unfortunately? That's another one that passed away so early.
Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying, because you know, Puff said, Yo,
Speaker 3: come to the studio. I need you to do some
Speaker 3: music with Big. I didn't even know the locks gonna
Speaker 3: be on the song last Days. So I'm in there
Speaker 3: doing that. He in another room because I guess he
Speaker 3: was recording like crazy back then.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So we never got a chance to really have a conversation.
Speaker 3: We went on tour together, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The last memories I have are Big is being in
Speaker 3: Ohio and were supposed to go on but Big was
Speaker 3: like f that I'm going on before y'all because they
Speaker 3: spraying Mason the crowd like like like you know, like
Speaker 3: the gang members is wild that I ain't even know
Speaker 3: Ohio had gangs like that, but those are the memories
Speaker 3: I have on him. So we didn't get a chance
Speaker 3: to like really kick it kick it. But I think
Speaker 3: if had he lived longer, we would have probably been
Speaker 3: partying together, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Same birthday, Gemina to me.
Speaker 4: How did watching you know the depth of Tupac and
Speaker 4: then a Biggie change how you felt about just being
Speaker 4: an artist at the time, Like were you scared?
Speaker 2: But didn't change cause y'all ain't stop beefing. Y'all kept going.
Speaker 2: Y'all never stopped.
Speaker 1: Nah, you know what. To be honest with you, it
Speaker 1: was like I felt it was mad disrespectful. You understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: For Like, it's like, no, like you just killing artists
Speaker 3: like y'all just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I understand, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Artists is human beings, but it's like no respect for
Speaker 3: the artists, like y'all just murking the artist.
Speaker 1: So that had me super.
Speaker 3: Concerned, Like you know, I'm like, wow, like it's you know,
Speaker 3: you already got your concerns when you going on to
Speaker 3: making sure you're safe, but now just people just get
Speaker 3: out of here, like by you going you nah, that
Speaker 3: was crazy?
Speaker 2: You know what I always wanted to ask. I always
Speaker 2: tell everybody if we have a hip hop conversation, my
Speaker 2: favorite beat EV and I think I told you before,
Speaker 2: it's shook Ones. Right, It's just when you think of
Speaker 2: hip hop, there's nothing that out hip hop shook ones.
Speaker 2: Just the raw, just uncut. It doesn't sound like it's
Speaker 2: ever filtered. It was just doesn't feel like it's never mixed,
Speaker 2: and it just feels like that. But I also feel
Speaker 2: like when a lot of times when they talk about
Speaker 2: some of the greatest producers in this industry and in
Speaker 2: the game, they don't mention you, right, how does that
Speaker 2: make you feel? Because they'll mention, they'll mention the Dres,
Speaker 2: they'll mention so many other people, but I never a
Speaker 2: lot of times I don't hear habit.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it could get frustrating, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It gets frustrating, you know, when your
Speaker 3: name is not being mentioned when you feel like it
Speaker 3: should be mentioned. But at the same time, we never
Speaker 3: got nominated for Grammys. And I'm sure we had albums
Speaker 3: that was platinum at gold during the time when the
Speaker 3: other artists wept gold and that, you know, and we
Speaker 3: never got nominated.
Speaker 1: So I just feel like it's in the same vein.
Speaker 3: But you know what, my piers, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying when I see them, Like I just seen Doctor
Speaker 3: dra the other day, he like, Yo, you inspired me.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at him like, like, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like you inspired me? But I feel him.
Speaker 3: I understand what he's saying, because we all inspire each other.
Speaker 3: So things like that kind of negate the frustration I
Speaker 3: feel of not being mentioned because I could see somebody
Speaker 3: like Doctor Dre and they be like, yo, son, like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And that's all I be needing.
Speaker 2: That's all you need say. They were Prodigy with lyrics.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people don't necessarily understand how
Speaker 2: nice he was lyrically, and he doesn't get into a
Speaker 2: lot of those conversations as well either. He don't.
Speaker 1: But then you have somebody like Jay Z.
Speaker 3: If you ask him a question about Prodigy, he'd be like,
Speaker 3: Prodigy was one of those ones, you.
Speaker 1: Understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So when people don't involve him in a conversation, but
Speaker 3: they rapper's favorite rapper is screaming their name, like not
Speaker 3: screaming they name, but giving them the credit. I think
Speaker 3: sometimes that's that's the just dude. Sometimes eventually the generation
Speaker 3: is just gonna come after us when they start doing
Speaker 3: their little investigation like we used to do with the
Speaker 3: Maybe not tell you because you're a little younger, but
Speaker 3: you know, with the seventies, like we pulling like James
Speaker 3: Brown were pulling all these stylistic blue Magic, They're gonna
Speaker 3: start pulling those mob deep records and be like, damn,
Speaker 3: what's this?
Speaker 1: This sounded crazy. I didn't know all that other stuff.
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be top forty, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And how you mentioned Jay? How did that beef ever start?
Speaker 2: And do you ever regret never producing for a whole?
Speaker 2: Is that one of the things?
Speaker 1: Off top? Of course, you know what I'm saying. As
Speaker 1: a producer, you want to produce for the best.
Speaker 2: Of producer for every New York great, but right.
Speaker 1: Right, that's that's the one I'm chasing, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: But shout out the whole. But look, when that beef happened,
Speaker 3: I had to stay with my brother.
Speaker 2: How did it start?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: It started because back to what we was talking about
Speaker 3: with the you know, stupid crust, the buildings, and then
Speaker 3: we came with La La, and then I think Prodigy
Speaker 3: seen an all the cool with uh.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I.
Speaker 3: Think jay Z said something in his line about New
Speaker 3: York and sought since he didn't appreciate it. And then
Speaker 3: he says something in a magazine that called hold out
Speaker 3: his name.
Speaker 1: Oh is it? You know what I'm saying, This is
Speaker 1: a call tax sport. He you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He and his prolem he going right back at Prodigy.
Speaker 1: So it just started right there.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like that beef hurt Bob Deep.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say that it hurt mall Deep, but
Speaker 3: it could have did a little nice little delay, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Because when you got somebody like
Speaker 3: that just coming at you, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: it's like it's start chipping away at you know that Almah.
Speaker 2: I always wanted to know what Na said during that
Speaker 2: time when you because y'all all be fing together right
Speaker 2: the nads ever say yo, let's do this together. Like
Speaker 2: what was that conversation?
Speaker 3: Like, nah, he was on his lone wolf real quick,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. He came out with that ether.
Speaker 3: It was like, you know what I mean, nobody saw
Speaker 3: it coming, you know what I mean, we never ever
Speaker 3: had a conversation about like Yo, yeah, man, let's let's
Speaker 3: go get them.
Speaker 2: Let's jump them, let's jump them.
Speaker 4: Now that said, what what myths about mob deep do
Speaker 4: you hear and you don't correct or you hear you
Speaker 4: kind of laugh at I know, there's the one with
Speaker 4: the high hat sound and like the burner and still
Speaker 4: I'm still kind of confused about that. Was it a
Speaker 4: real burner?
Speaker 3: Was?
Speaker 4: And I saw two different answers at one point in time.
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of myths out there about you
Speaker 4: guys that you sometimes you say are better than the
Speaker 4: actual story. So you just let it rock.
Speaker 3: I mean the one that you just said with the stove,
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, Everybody keeps saying like,
Speaker 3: it's the stove, it's the stove. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: tell them if it's the stove or not. I just
Speaker 3: love the mystique of the stove. It's like that's a
Speaker 3: people like what.
Speaker 1: The hell y' so?
Speaker 4: And shook Ones part two. There's the flicking sound and
Speaker 4: it sounds like you, you know, you crank up the
Speaker 4: stove and like kick. Yeah. So at one point I
Speaker 4: thought I saw an interview from you and you said
Speaker 4: that it was a stove and you recorded it. I
Speaker 4: think I was drink champs. And then I saw another
Speaker 4: interview where you were like it was a high hat.
Speaker 3: That you used, right, yeah, yea. I'll be mestling with them,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I just I just be
Speaker 3: messing with it, like I'm never going to reveal that one.
Speaker 3: Why because just the you know, it sounds better, you know,
Speaker 3: than the than the actual truth.
Speaker 4: So, and I know, you guys got the comic book
Speaker 4: series that kind of leans into all of the myths
Speaker 4: about mob Deep is you guys, slick Rid ghost Face Nas.
Speaker 4: It's like a one time only series. So are y'all
Speaker 4: talking about more of the myths in that limited comic
Speaker 4: book series or is it just something that.
Speaker 3: Well when they was making it, they was asking me,
Speaker 3: like what you think your strengths would be if you
Speaker 3: would be you know what I'm saying a you know,
Speaker 3: a superhero or whatever, and it was asking me what
Speaker 3: I think prodigy strengths would be, and I just kind
Speaker 3: of gave them that, like, you know, everybody wanted to fly,
Speaker 3: be like Superman or have some kind of secret power,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I don't think it
Speaker 3: added to us like any kind of myth, but more
Speaker 3: along the lines of, like.
Speaker 1: If you had superpowers, what would which one would you pick?
Speaker 4: Got you? I thought it was going to lean into
Speaker 4: like all of the old, like the hip hop stories
Speaker 4: that we hear that we don't ever get real answer.
Speaker 1: That's a good angle.
Speaker 3: I like that might have to massive pill love to start,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, revamp.
Speaker 4: Some of the I did with the rollout right now
Speaker 4: that you're doing because a lot of those conversations are
Speaker 4: coming back up, people are learning it for the first time.
Speaker 4: How different is it for you now promoting your music
Speaker 4: and having these conversations with social media versus you know,
Speaker 4: not even the last album, but like early on days
Speaker 4: when y'all were running around.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's way different because now you know, back
Speaker 3: in them days, we didn't have no social media.
Speaker 1: We didn't have none of that.
Speaker 3: So you know, the things that we're doing now, like
Speaker 3: hitting mad, podcasts up and things of that nature. Is like,
Speaker 3: it feels kind of different, but it's the work that
Speaker 3: you put in when you're putting out a project.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I love doing it. I love this time, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. I get to really, you know, show
Speaker 3: what mab deep is all about.
Speaker 2: What artist came to you for a beat and you
Speaker 2: turned them down and then you kind of went back
Speaker 2: and like, damn, I should have did that beat? Was
Speaker 2: there any one of those artists?
Speaker 1: Uh? Damn, I don't. I don't think so. I don't
Speaker 1: think so.
Speaker 3: You know, when I do work with artists, you know,
Speaker 3: not out of ten, I'm feeling them, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. But if I didn't want to work with
Speaker 3: the artists, they definitely didn't hear back from me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: What beat did you give away? You wish you didn't
Speaker 2: give away? You would have kept to yourself?
Speaker 3: Nah, I or every track there that I gave away
Speaker 3: I was fine with, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't think I gave away anything now.
Speaker 2: I always I always like to ask because these are
Speaker 2: my two favorite beats, My two favorite hip hopp beats.
Speaker 2: I want you to break down when you created shit
Speaker 2: ones and when you create a choir star right? And
Speaker 2: whose choice was it to put of every artist out
Speaker 2: there while little chmp. So let's start off with breaking
Speaker 2: down ship ones. So where were you when you made it? Create?
Speaker 2: When you made shit ones? And did you know that
Speaker 2: was gonna be what it was?
Speaker 1: Shook Ones?
Speaker 3: I made that in my in Queen's Village, in my
Speaker 3: mom's apartment where I grew up at right, thirty records
Speaker 3: all over the floor, scratch pop, vinyl. Didn't even really
Speaker 3: know what I was doing. Then the crew came in
Speaker 3: the crib Prodigy all in this, say what's this? I
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, it's whatever, whatever. I'm about to turn
Speaker 3: the computer, you know, the drum machine. No no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no, don't don't don't turn it off.
Speaker 1: Keep it. Kept it. We did a song to it.
Speaker 3: Actually we had to Shook one part two, and then
Speaker 3: part one, and then this became part two and it
Speaker 3: took off. I had no idea what was going to
Speaker 3: do that quiet Storm. I ran out of samples, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, I ran out of anything to sample.
Speaker 3: So I'm just looking at this sugar Hill Gang record, Like, damn,
Speaker 3: let me just try you for now, because that's a
Speaker 3: record that I always passed, like you know, white lines
Speaker 3: and all of that. Nobody's not putting that on, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So put that on, sampled it.
Speaker 3: I said, let me slow it down maybe like you know,
Speaker 3: slow it down, throw some rim shots to it, and
Speaker 3: just did it.
Speaker 1: Didn't think nothing of it.
Speaker 3: Prodigy used to come to my house go in the
Speaker 3: basement to the studio while I'm sleep and then when
Speaker 3: I went down, he's like, yo, have what's this. I
Speaker 3: was like this whatever, It wasn't nothing, and he did
Speaker 3: a whole solo song to it, and then we ended
Speaker 3: up making it the first single on I believe it
Speaker 3: was Murder Music. And I was kind of a little
Speaker 3: upset by then because Chris Lighty, God bless the day.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, we making this the first single.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm not on it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was like, you made the beat.
Speaker 3: And I think that was the time when now everybody's
Speaker 3: just looking at me as a producer and not even
Speaker 3: a rapper. So that was a that's another story, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. That I'm getting looked at it
Speaker 3: just as a producer when I just be trying to, like,
Speaker 3: you know, write my life away on the paper.
Speaker 1: But it's all good.
Speaker 2: And then how did y'all get what was the decision
Speaker 2: to put Little Kim? Why Little Kim of all the
Speaker 2: at that time? Why Kim?
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, ever, you know what time it is.
Speaker 3: We go to the club right now, I'm mall deeps
Speaker 3: in the clubs. It's a saucetrege sveets right, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So we like, yo, we need to we need to
Speaker 3: get the chicks involved. Who could get who? We could
Speaker 3: get Little Kim? And she agreed to do it.
Speaker 1: That I went to the studio, I seen her in
Speaker 1: there writing her verse. She sung a hookover. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you that record took off off like you couldn't.
Speaker 2: It was genius. It was to the day where you
Speaker 2: could put out a street record and it could be
Speaker 2: a single. And this day is Kim's one of Kim's
Speaker 2: biggest verses. It just connects hot, damn hole, here we
Speaker 2: go again.
Speaker 1: And she got that little the dance that she do
Speaker 1: to this day, to this day, to this day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was thinking about you. You mentioned like going
Speaker 4: in the club and like using that and bringing that
Speaker 4: back into the music. Maybe some artists do that now,
Speaker 4: but I think a lot of artists are geared toward
Speaker 4: like TikTok and numbers and research because the industry has changed.
Speaker 4: And he always talks about how lit the club scene
Speaker 4: in New York was, and all the artists and all
Speaker 4: the things.
Speaker 2: Like I was tell her that everybody used to be outside. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when we were always columbing like it was, there were
Speaker 2: no I would say, Richard broke it was. It would
Speaker 2: be the dude from the block on the left side,
Speaker 2: right mob deep on the right, in this corner, kimming
Speaker 2: them on this side. You would see Knaves was always
Speaker 2: in the cup by himself somehow, some way, wiggling in
Speaker 2: and out. You would see the lost boys. You just
Speaker 2: see so many. You would see everybody in the club,
Speaker 2: and you would see how music reacts. And like you said,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't matter you play the Gangster's record. Girls was rapping,
Speaker 2: dudes is rapping, And we would go from club to
Speaker 2: club night tonight. It was just a feeling in New York.
Speaker 2: I always tell about that. You just could never change.
Speaker 2: It was just something about that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was an amazing time, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. Like when Street Records was you was able
Speaker 3: to dance to it. You didn't have to make a
Speaker 3: radio record, you know what I mean. But once your
Speaker 3: record took off in the clubs, you was kind of
Speaker 3: like pretty much out of it. I think the clubs
Speaker 3: dictated hits, which.
Speaker 4: Is not as much anywhere. And I know you got
Speaker 4: the tour that you're going on with Ray Kwan.
Speaker 3: Yep, we got that the thirtieth anniversary of the Cuban
Speaker 3: Links and the infamous album We're Gonna do the US,
Speaker 3: you know about like eighteen.
Speaker 1: Dates or whatever, and that's dope.
Speaker 3: Actually got rehearsal with Ray Kwan later on today, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because we taking it serious, like
Speaker 3: you know, we some ogs. You know, she gotta do
Speaker 3: our two steps, make sure we're good.
Speaker 2: I wanted to know too when you signed with fifty,
Speaker 2: When y'all did the deal with fifty, Yeah, break that down.
Speaker 2: And while y'all decided to sign that deal, and where
Speaker 2: were y'all at that point as far as.
Speaker 1: Mob deep to you.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you get off of some ferraris, you
Speaker 3: gotta go side the deal absolutely, but nah, fifty called me.
Speaker 1: We was free agents at that point. I think we
Speaker 1: had been on jove.
Speaker 3: If we sold one hundred and fifty thousand records the
Speaker 3: first week, that wasn't good enough for job today. I
Speaker 3: mean that's like probably platinum or something like that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but it was.
Speaker 3: Happy with exactly, So I guess we was ahead of
Speaker 3: our time or not whatever it is. But fifty called me,
Speaker 3: and I had already worked with fifty, like maybe a
Speaker 3: year before that before he was bubbling on the mixtaps,
Speaker 3: I remember, and he was one of my favorite artists,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. We did bump that and
Speaker 3: clapped those things or whatever, and that was supposed to
Speaker 3: be for my solo album, loud Folded never came out.
Speaker 3: And then the next thing, you know, a year later,
Speaker 3: somebody ain't fifty cents just going bubbling, right, So we
Speaker 3: kept that relationship going, and by the time we became
Speaker 3: free agents, gave me a call said I don't want
Speaker 3: to sign y'all.
Speaker 1: He swept us up into the g unit. Umbrella went
Speaker 1: on tour and restless history.
Speaker 2: Why how come you never signed more artists? Because you
Speaker 2: you were the producer, you were the artist. How could
Speaker 2: you could have I'm sure signed fifty early on besides Bennoy,
Speaker 2: who did y'all true? You know what it is?
Speaker 1: I guess I haven't ever found the artist that I
Speaker 1: truly like, yo, like I can.
Speaker 3: I just don't want to sign somebody just to sign somebody,
Speaker 3: like I guess my my bar is high, you know,
Speaker 3: I really want to sign that artist. Now, this is
Speaker 3: an artist that I did want to sign that she
Speaker 3: wasn't signed at the time. It was a Jazmine Sullivan.
Speaker 3: She just came into like right because back then I
Speaker 3: was like getting people to throw reference vocals and Steve
Speaker 3: I was working with stevebej and he knew her and
Speaker 3: got her to the studio and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, god damn. I was like, Yo, she's nice,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But she's one of those artists that you know it's
Speaker 3: going to get a major record deal and get signed.
Speaker 3: You got to come with the business if you want
Speaker 3: to sign a Jazmine cellibent. But for instance, like, I
Speaker 3: don't run across artists like that all the time, and
Speaker 3: those are the artists that I really would have, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And they feud fall between.
Speaker 4: So you didn't sign her only because the deal situation
Speaker 4: was gonna be what you thought should be. Like, how
Speaker 4: did that not move?
Speaker 3: I wasn't ready, you know, I'm saying, I ain't gonna
Speaker 3: lie for you know, female artists is like hot maintenance.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It come with a lot,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, not to you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I mean cause you got gam and branding. And I
Speaker 4: will say, although Jasmine Archie is a little different, but
Speaker 4: Jasmine Sullivant is one of the best singers period in
Speaker 4: the game, right. But I feel like it took people
Speaker 4: so long. It was hotels for me when people even
Speaker 4: started recognizing her the way that they should have. And
Speaker 4: she had been working for so long before that, so
Speaker 4: I'm sure a lot of money was poured into that.
Speaker 4: So I understand what you're saying, But y'all didn't even
Speaker 4: have a conversation and attempt to see like what she
Speaker 4: would save to your offer.
Speaker 3: I had the conversation in my mind, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like I wish that I you know, because
Speaker 3: I was just you know, I was in my own way,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But the artist in me
Speaker 3: wanted her to shine, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 3: not even you know, try to get in her way.
Speaker 3: But you know that's what it is, like I never
Speaker 3: come across.
Speaker 1: All this or that caliber. It's really hard, right, Like
Speaker 1: you know, so I want.
Speaker 4: To go back to the fifty sign y'all conversation. I
Speaker 4: know when you guys signed with fifty and drop music.
Speaker 4: A lot of the fans were happy about that, yeah.
Speaker 3: Because you know what I always say it like this,
Speaker 3: fans are like your parents, right, they never want to
Speaker 3: see the kids grow, right.
Speaker 1: Oh, I want you to stay my baby, Please don't
Speaker 1: get older. And that's what artists are to the supporters
Speaker 1: and fans, right. They never want to see them go.
Speaker 3: Outside the box or grow a little bit commercial, right,
Speaker 3: because it is just ruined, you know that that relationship
Speaker 3: that they have. And I believe that the our fans, right,
Speaker 3: because it probably was a mix of the audiences together.
Speaker 3: Like on one hand, fifty is grimmy, right, like he
Speaker 3: got the streets on lock, but then he went super commercial, right,
Speaker 3: and sometimes you know the streets they kind of resent
Speaker 3: that commercialness, you know what I'm saying of an artist
Speaker 3: going that big because they just want that foundational music,
Speaker 3: and they probably were scared that once we signed a
Speaker 3: G unit that we was probably gonna become this commercial group.
Speaker 1: But it couldn't have been further from the truth, because.
Speaker 4: The point of y'all sign of that deal was you
Speaker 4: wanted that expansion of the of the business. Do you
Speaker 4: feel like at that point, y'all make it? Because when
Speaker 4: you released from the contract, there was no more business
Speaker 4: with fifty after right?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: And was that because of the way that the fans
Speaker 4: reactor or.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, No, It wasn't because of that.
Speaker 3: I think it was a lot of different factors surrounding
Speaker 3: that whole G unit In the scope thing, you know,
Speaker 3: I think fifty was getting pushed back at in the
Speaker 3: scope regardless of anything because he was just so you know,
Speaker 3: strong minded, you know what I mean. And at that time,
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, we sold this amount of records, all right,
Speaker 3: you know, got ahead, do what y'all need to do,
Speaker 3: because fifty was fighting really hard to push us, and
Speaker 3: he was getting a lot of pushback, Like MTV wasn't habited,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They was like, play what mall deep with? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And he would just sneak us.
Speaker 3: On TRL with him. You know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: come on, you know what I mean. They didn't want us,
Speaker 3: did Why because we don't fit into the job of
Speaker 3: music y' yeah we don't. We We from the streets,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They like, you know, they you know, they gate keeping
Speaker 1: a little bit up there. They like, Nah, were good.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Give us somebody else.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like because I asked a question to
Speaker 4: get here, do you feel like because of the box?
Speaker 4: I guess that the fans kind of put you guys in.
Speaker 4: It hurt my deep as a business looking back then
Speaker 4: to where things are now.
Speaker 3: Man, it's different ways to look at that. I would
Speaker 3: say no, right, because staying true to your fan base,
Speaker 3: it's cool, you know what I'm saying. I mean, you
Speaker 3: don't really want to do nothing outside of that. Like
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to make no pop records with like
Speaker 3: Christina Aguilera and all of that stuff. I mean, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because it's not who I am now.
Speaker 3: The music just becomes fake, you understand.
Speaker 1: But if I was of that, then sure we'll make it.
Speaker 3: Like certain artists was able to do that, but that
Speaker 3: wasn't mall deep now, and if we was gonna go
Speaker 3: that direction, we should have started that early on.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't mal deep. We started grassroots from the bottom.
Speaker 2: Like you know, I do. Got a question. You produce
Speaker 2: for Big fifty, Nas, Meth, Kanye, Wes, Eminem, ll, Mariah,
Speaker 2: just the name of a few. Who is your favorite
Speaker 2: to work with besides producty? Who was your favorite to
Speaker 2: work with with with production? And why?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: My favorite artist to work with that I produced for,
Speaker 3: I would have to say, Uh, probably was like Jadakiss, Wow,
Speaker 3: a little Kim, because those are artists that I really
Speaker 3: respect and revealed. I mean, like Jadakiss is like one
Speaker 3: of the best lyricists out there, so like to work
Speaker 3: with him. You know, it's a pleasure because he compliments
Speaker 3: your beat so well. You could give him a trash
Speaker 3: beat and he make.
Speaker 1: It sound good. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So it was it was really a pleasure because he
Speaker 3: and he you know, he's kind of humble when it
Speaker 3: comes to you know, being in the studio and the artist.
Speaker 3: He he wanted the producer to take him in that direction.
Speaker 2: Now you're very humble and now with production what was
Speaker 2: your favorite beat to produce?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying by Jada Kiss because I
Speaker 3: just you know, it wasn't really too much of a
Speaker 3: big deal for me when I made the beat. I
Speaker 3: mean the beats not don't got crazy bells and whistles,
Speaker 3: but as you can see it, it's minimum production. But
Speaker 3: he just turns it into this whole big production, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. With Anthony Hamilton. Then he's questioning,
Speaker 3: going why why this is why that? You know at
Speaker 3: the times when we got a lot of questions.
Speaker 1: So I love doing that for him.
Speaker 2: Also wanted to ask, right, besides why, what was the
Speaker 2: most difficult track to get cleared?
Speaker 1: To get clear?
Speaker 2: To get clear?
Speaker 3: Uh, the most difficult tract to get cleared probably was,
Speaker 3: Uh we did a print sample one time.
Speaker 1: Uh hell.
Speaker 2: So you had to send it to Prince.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, we said there and he was like, hell,
Speaker 1: I was at the studio with you and every day,
Speaker 1: but little bro, we ain't clear that Prince. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was me and Snoop was there too. Snoop made
Speaker 1: the post to what happened. So I was in the
Speaker 1: studio with time Electric Lady, Electric Lady.
Speaker 3: I think he even owned the studio at one point.
Speaker 3: It's right there on West Fall Street or whatever it was.
Speaker 3: So I'm in there, we're working on the album. I
Speaker 3: figured what album it was. And one of my homeboys
Speaker 3: that I used to just have driving me around was like, yo,
Speaker 3: princes outside, I'm like, get that out of there.
Speaker 1: You're crazy, you bugget yo. Prince walked in my session, yo.
Speaker 2: Like pants on and he didn't.
Speaker 3: He didn't have leather pants on, but he was like
Speaker 3: my height, and I'm sure, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, but you know, but his presence
Speaker 3: is just like crazy. And he started helping me.
Speaker 1: With the keys and playing on the keys and then
Speaker 1: just whist the way he just left. That.
Speaker 3: Didn't even get a picture with him, No nothing back then.
Speaker 3: I don't even think the phones was ready for pictures
Speaker 3: back then, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But that was my Prince story.
Speaker 2: So what was the beat? So he so, y'all, Actually
Speaker 2: it was some song that.
Speaker 1: Ended up I think that should not kill Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot where it ended up at, but you know,
Speaker 3: it was snoop on the record, prints on the keys
Speaker 3: and we just wrap it and you wouldn't even be
Speaker 3: able to tell that Prince placed any keys on it
Speaker 3: because it was just really simple. But the fact that
Speaker 3: he did, you know what I'm saying, is something that
Speaker 3: I definitely would never forget.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I thought you're gonna say god Fall the Part.
Speaker 1: Three, Well, that was a hard tape for the Clad too.
Speaker 2: That How did you because that was my movie.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's Steve Rifket magic. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Steve Rifket, he know how to do business to clear
Speaker 3: some samples. So we definitely cleared that.
Speaker 4: I saw a report that that song actually wasn't that
Speaker 4: on the Infamous Archives, but you guys didn't improve it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was.
Speaker 3: I it's so long ago, I don't even remember. But
Speaker 3: you you're probably right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So fuzzy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got some memories.
Speaker 2: No you got I wouldn't you? Do you get paid
Speaker 2: every time I see one of these stores sell a
Speaker 2: Mob Deep the infamous Mob Deep shirts. Do y'all get
Speaker 2: paid over that?
Speaker 3: Well, if it's official merch, yes, But I combat infringement
Speaker 3: every day, yo, I mean, they just they I mean,
Speaker 3: and it looks so good and so like I want.
Speaker 2: To buy it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, you know, sometimes I go to shows
Speaker 1: and they be having on this merge that I know,
Speaker 1: mall deep diss sanction.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say nothing to them, but if
Speaker 3: we have a problems imagined wu tang, it's the most know.
Speaker 3: So these are things that we got to combat every
Speaker 3: day that people don't even understand.
Speaker 1: Like they said, oh, it's so easy to be an
Speaker 1: artist and you y'all just sit back, you go to
Speaker 1: the shows. Nah, there's a business aspect where you got
Speaker 1: to protect the trademark. It's serious.
Speaker 4: What's the fright? I mean, it is very serious, specially
Speaker 4: because you have so many years of so much history
Speaker 4: and y'all fans spend across so many age ranges. What's
Speaker 4: the fight like right now? Though? Like are there certain
Speaker 4: stores or people like where you even aiming to because
Speaker 4: y'all stuff is everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, we we do license deills with certain brands,
Speaker 3: whether it be you know whoever like Supreme or thing,
Speaker 3: and that's another.
Speaker 1: Story, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: We had a horrible time over there that something happened
Speaker 3: and they used the image and we got sued.
Speaker 1: It was like crazy, But those are things.
Speaker 3: That you have to like kind of watch out for.
Speaker 3: But we license out the brand sometimes, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. But more than not, infringement is rampant.
Speaker 2: What Supreme y'all used the picture that y'a didn't taken.
Speaker 2: The photographer came back.
Speaker 1: And it was the dragon image, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I kind of forgot about it because I got
Speaker 3: the tattoo, so I'm not even really thinking about it.
Speaker 3: I think in the late nineties early two thousands, they
Speaker 3: had used the image in some group I'm not going
Speaker 3: to say they name, said oh that's out and nobody
Speaker 3: knows them. They probably got like, no, lie, two hundred
Speaker 3: followers on Instagram. Nobody knows them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But they took advantage of an opportunity. It is a
Speaker 3: federally trademarked image, you know what I'm saying. They got
Speaker 3: the rights and they told us back in the nineties
Speaker 3: and say hey stop and then I forgot you forget.
Speaker 1: So pre was like, yo, is this yours?
Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, yeah yeah, But you know,
Speaker 3: the lawyers was like, okay, we're gonna check it, right,
Speaker 3: that's the lawyer's job.
Speaker 1: They didn't check it. The lawyer said, like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: check it. You understand what I'm saying. I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: you know, go check it. I'm making beads, like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Go ahead, But you gotta really
Speaker 1: be diligent because getting sued is not fun. It's not funny.
Speaker 1: It costs a lot of money. You have to answer it.
Speaker 3: And we settled, of course, and it's just you giving
Speaker 3: away free money. You understand hard working money.
Speaker 2: So and I meant to ask, you know, with all
Speaker 2: the stuff that you produced and all of the records
Speaker 2: that you've done, do you get all your money from
Speaker 2: that stuff? Cause you had a lot of times that
Speaker 2: when artists do something, they don't get their money. Somebody
Speaker 2: else gets the money. Do you get all your money
Speaker 2: from them?
Speaker 3: I was fortunate enough to do a publishing deal early
Speaker 3: that was super fit, right, I didn't sign away all
Speaker 3: my publishing, And I'm down with people that collect diligently.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying things.
Speaker 3: But you know, of course, there's going to be corners
Speaker 3: pockets in the world where you're not collecting, and then
Speaker 3: new forms pop up. They like, oh yeah, back in
Speaker 3: the days, y'all didn't know that this was over here
Speaker 3: and y'all could collect the back and there's a bag
Speaker 3: sitting over there like overseas somewhere for whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, we get our bread like
Speaker 1: for real, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I hear horror stories and I feel bad for all
Speaker 3: this and whoever took advantage of them, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They need to be you know, it's a special place
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask, what's the biggest bag you ever
Speaker 4: you ever missed out on, because just business wise, you
Speaker 4: didn't plan for that.
Speaker 3: The biggest bag I missed out on was for a
Speaker 3: super Bowl commercial. They wanted to use the Mab Deep
Speaker 3: music in the super Bowl commercial and for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: a lawyer took too long and we missed out on
Speaker 3: the opportunity.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that hurt still hurt with this album as
Speaker 2: a passion project, because obviously you don't need the money
Speaker 2: if you're still getting paid.
Speaker 1: I ain't say that.
Speaker 2: Infinite is out this Friday, and we appreciate you for
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I love these stories and I just love to see
Speaker 2: the growth because I was a kid in Queens and
Speaker 2: I watch what y'all did, and we we admired that,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean from the driving the cars, the
Speaker 2: shooting the shook Ones video to all that we got
Speaker 2: a chance to see it. So the fact that you're
Speaker 2: still heavy and you're still doing it, man, we appreciate you.
Speaker 4: And this is we got a date for the method
Speaker 4: Man Covid Covid album.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the memphd Man Covid.
Speaker 3: We don't have a date, but me and him are
Speaker 3: actively in the studio and he tried to put me
Speaker 3: in the head like I didn't let him, but he said,
Speaker 3: we gotta.
Speaker 4: Finish this album for a couple of months for a date,
Speaker 4: but okay.
Speaker 1: We'll have one. So though, thanks for joining us, though,
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: The album comes out this Friday. It's Havoc. It's the
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. Good morning, every day, Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Finish y'all.
Speaker 2: Dump