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Speaker 1: Don't know.

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Speaker 2: Every day up waiting up the Breakfast Club, finish for

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Speaker 2: y'all done morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne

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Speaker 2: the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Law La Roses

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Speaker 2: here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

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Speaker 2: We have hav It here.

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Speaker 1: Having what's up brother us going on?

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Speaker 2: How you feeling real good?

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Speaker 1: Real good?

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Speaker 2: Having from Mob Deep of course, new album Infinite out

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Speaker 2: on this Friday.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: So many questions, so many questions. So let's start off

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Speaker 2: with with first, how did you put this album together?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Man, it was It was a long time in the

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Speaker 3: making because, you know, after the untimely death of Prodigy,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It was something that I

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Speaker 3: wanted to do, but it took me a minute because

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Speaker 3: of you know, the family was in the grieving process.

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Speaker 3: But to make a long story short, linked up with

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Speaker 3: alc Alchemists and we knew we had to start, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, start the album.

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Speaker 1: So flew out there.

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Speaker 3: I had a couple of songs already, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, some verses from a Prodigy's family, and Alchemists

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Speaker 3: had a ton of verses already, so we just started

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Speaker 3: putting it together and just breaking it down.

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Speaker 4: How did you I was gonna ask, how did you

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Speaker 4: pick which verses? Like when you're going through Prodigy, you know,

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Speaker 4: verses that we've never heard? How you picked which ones?

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Speaker 4: Because we were anticipating hearing it, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was kind of hard because I mean,

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Speaker 3: to me, you know what I'm saying, all Prodigy verses

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Speaker 3: is dope, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: So it was hard.

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Speaker 3: I mean because we ended up with like what twenty

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Speaker 3: five songs and you know, ended up with fifteen, but.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, just the best ones, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: out of Prodigies versus if I could pick, it was

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Speaker 3: really hard thope.

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Speaker 2: Now with any of these songs done already from y'all already, Oh,

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Speaker 2: these were all you had to get every new verses

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Speaker 2: from you know, whether his daughter I see his daughter raps,

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Speaker 2: his family or alchemists.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I thought that I was getting

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Speaker 3: most of the verses was like unheard verses, but like

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Speaker 3: one of them was like you know, released like fourteen

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Speaker 3: years ago.

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Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: We took wipe the dust off and you know, rocked

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Speaker 3: with the songs or whatever, but most of them is

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Speaker 3: just versus that nobody never heard before, especially you know what.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, something Al has like it's like crazy versus

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Speaker 3: But you know, I was giving some verses from the

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Speaker 3: family and I just you know, technology, you could just

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Speaker 3: take a verse if it's like ninety two bpms, you

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Speaker 3: could put it down an eighty eight, or you could

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Speaker 2: How was the family were doing this? Did the family

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Speaker 2: want a new mob Deep album out where they cool

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Speaker 2: with it or they were like they was cool with it.

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Speaker 3: They was cool with it, but they just wanted to

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Speaker 3: make sure that they was part of the process and

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Speaker 3: that they wasn't left out. So you know, the first

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Speaker 3: her blessings, and she was, you know, she was kind

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Speaker 3: of got a little emotional when she was hearing her

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Speaker 3: fall the you know what I'm saying as me and

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Speaker 3: I was getting emotional listening to Prodigy talk like you know,

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Speaker 3: Acappella talk about yo, I see you on the other

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: How was your relationship with before he passed?

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Speaker 3: It was actually I feel like I got my friend back,

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Speaker 1: A healthy path.

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Speaker 3: And he after we did that, he knocked on my

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Speaker 1: Came to my room, and we was just kicking it,

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Speaker 3: To go down a healthy journey because you know, we

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Speaker 3: had had, you know, a little dust up before that.

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Speaker 2: What was that dust up for? Because I always was saying,

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Speaker 2: They are never like they just so from the same area.

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Speaker 2: They didn't been through beefs and this and that and

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Speaker 2: problems with money, like they didn't been through it all.

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Speaker 2: So I figured they outre have one group that like Nah,

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Speaker 2: but y'all had a little situation at one point.

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Speaker 3: I just say this, like when it comes to alcohol,

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Speaker 3: just stay away from social media.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It just lay that alone.

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Speaker 3: Some things like brothers go through things, but that's supposed

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Speaker 3: to be behind the scenes, you feel me. So it

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Speaker 3: was just built up frustration and me taking to social media,

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Speaker 3: like I wasn't taught to go to social media, and

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Speaker 3: they are all my differences. So that's something that I did.

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Speaker 3: And Prodigy kept it like real classy like with it.

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Speaker 3: He was, you know what I'm saying, a class general

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Speaker 3: where that he didn't even engage in that little dust stuff.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it was a little strain on a relationship.

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Speaker 3: We broke up for like a year, then we came

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Speaker 2: And after that breakup, how did y'all get back together?

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Speaker 2: Like what was that conversation? Who reached out first or

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Speaker 3: Because we both got friends in common, right, so it

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Speaker 3: wasn't like yo, okay today, y'all go to meet up.

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Speaker 1: It was like that.

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Speaker 3: Gradual, gradual, graduate, graduate, and then we just end up

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Speaker 3: in the studio together, you know what I'm saying, And

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Speaker 3: it was like nothing never happened, right, Like the beat

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, So we're gonna through X, Y and Z

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Speaker 3: and you know what I mean. But we did get

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Speaker 3: a chance to kind of like talk. You know, you know,

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Speaker 3: I know him since I was fifteen, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So that was like my brother brother for real,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And it was just crazy

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Speaker 3: when he passed. How close we was getting before that.

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Speaker 2: And y'all were in Vegas when we passed, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we was in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: We had just did this, like, you know, one of

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Speaker 1: With a lot of the old school artists or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Nordy was did ray Kuonic Ghosts and he wasn't feeling well,

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Speaker 3: home in New York.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Is there because I know that this is uh you

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Speaker 4: work with Master Pil to drop this. Is there anything

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Speaker 4: just because this is also people are looking at this

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Speaker 4: but it's also a tribute as well. Is there anything

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Speaker 4: when people are listening to the music from Prodigy that

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Speaker 4: we haven't heard, like when you were putting together and

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Speaker 4: producing all of this, Like what was the message you

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Speaker 4: wanted his fans to get from him in hearing him again.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I don't think that it was so

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Speaker 3: out there about Prodigy. The fans know what they wanted,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I'm constantly getting harassed

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Speaker 3: by the fans, like yo, when you're putting out that

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Speaker 3: Mam Deep album. I mean, look, I don't got no

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Speaker 1: So it was a process, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I hope that you know, the supporters

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Speaker 3: get from it, like Yo, you know, p was one

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Speaker 4: What was the pressure like for you if any, because

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Speaker 4: this has been what since twenty fourteen since you're.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the pressure was crazy, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: because of course, you know, the music landscape been changed,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Oh Ma all Deep, But

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Speaker 3: we stay in our lane.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And I just kind of like, that's all I wanted

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Speaker 3: I'm doing some drill music or something like that, you

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to stay mall deep.

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Speaker 2: Now you did this still with NAS's Mass Appeal. She

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Speaker 2: just mentioned, Yeah, how involved was NAS with this project?

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Speaker 2: And why did y'all decide to sign with the NAS

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Speaker 1: We trusted Nas, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: tons of people would have did them all deep album,

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Speaker 3: trust NOAs you know what I mean. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 3: he over there, Mass Appeal. We sat with them and

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Speaker 3: it wasn't about the money. It's just more like who

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Speaker 3: And we trusted Nods for that, and you know, he

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Speaker 3: took a hands off approach. But when it was time to,

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Speaker 2: He did two verses on it as well three three

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Speaker 2: verses on Yeah, I mean three verses for nas.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good way to go out, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. On the ma All Deep album

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Speaker 3: and that was cool, you know, featuring her, Georgia Smith,

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Speaker 3: you know, due two phenomenal artists, and Porter Henny y.

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Speaker 2: You know Clips as well was on the album as well.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to I see a lot of your stories

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Speaker 2: have been going viral.

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Speaker 1: The last couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Right, of course, the Park stories always go viral, the

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Speaker 2: jay Z stories go viral. But the mind frame back

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Speaker 2: then when you felt like the West Coast was taking

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Speaker 2: a stab at the East right, and y'all said, nah,

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Speaker 2: this can't happen. Break that down, because y'all will probably

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Speaker 2: wanted the first to jump out the window and be

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Speaker 2: like we riding all day long, and how difficult was

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Speaker 2: it when y'all were torring and going to these markets

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Speaker 2: and seeing these people, And did you ever run into

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Speaker 2: any of the people that you shot at me on record?

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Speaker 2: I should say, yo, check it out.

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Speaker 3: Like when you in places like Minneapolis and you see

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Speaker 3: you don't even know if you're gonna make it out

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 1: You understand on what I'm saying. So that's that, you

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Speaker 1: know what i mean.

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Speaker 3: We like what we got beef is on. I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You do that.

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Speaker 3: But it was it was it was a test, you

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Speaker 1: People was getting shot and things of that nature. But

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Speaker 3: Nah, And it's not like we was hotting, you understand

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like we went, we was in La.

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Speaker 1: We had to be in La, you know, to promote

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Speaker 3: But he passed you know what I'm saying, Like when

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Speaker 3: Earth and he got shot, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That kind of just made everything like.

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Speaker 2: And y'all like to switch singles because they said the

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Speaker 3: Shot right, because it was no, it was drop a

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Speaker 3: gem on them, drop a gym on it was drop

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Speaker 3: was going on fire, like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You know, quite saying another station, but I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just this history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was it was going viral so to

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Speaker 3: pull it. Not even the label saying that, And we

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Speaker 1: So it was like damn, but we put it on

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Speaker 4: And pulling the record. I mean, I know it's common

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Speaker 4: like what's the feeling of like is it okay? We

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Speaker 4: want to pull it because we just don't even want

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Speaker 4: or is it like out of respect?

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Speaker 1: Like what's the real like like for real, for real?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like why pull it? Because at that point, y'all

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Speaker 1: Look, at the end of the day, he was a brother.

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Speaker 1: He was our brother.

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Speaker 3: Like we might have beef with them and all of that,

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Speaker 3: but we don't wish death on nobody.

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Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And we're not that thirsty like to be like shit,

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Speaker 3: whatever he did, like keep a movie like that would

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Speaker 3: have been bad taste anyway, you know what I'm saying

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Speaker 3: it have been tasteless, so we.

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Speaker 2: Just like, nah, this just pull it, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? You know your relationship with Big was not

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Speaker 2: I thought the relationship wasn't necessarily the greatest. You and Big,

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Speaker 2: oh for real?

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Speaker 1: Me me and BMG we got the same birthday.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that. Did y'all ever have conversations

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Speaker 2: to say, because y'all were both getting shot at like crazy?

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Speaker 2: Did y'all ever have conversations like let's do this together

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately? That's another one that passed away so early.

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Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying, because you know, Puff said, Yo,

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Speaker 3: come to the studio. I need you to do some

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Speaker 3: music with Big. I didn't even know the locks gonna

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Speaker 3: be on the song last Days. So I'm in there

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Speaker 1: You know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So we never got a chance to really have a conversation.

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Speaker 3: We went on tour together, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: The last memories I have are Big is being in

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Speaker 3: like f that I'm going on before y'all because they

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Speaker 3: the gang members is wild that I ain't even know

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Speaker 3: Ohio had gangs like that, but those are the memories

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Speaker 3: I have on him. So we didn't get a chance

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Speaker 3: to like really kick it kick it. But I think

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Speaker 1: Same birthday, Gemina to me.

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Speaker 4: How did watching you know the depth of Tupac and

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Speaker 4: then a Biggie change how you felt about just being

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Speaker 2: But didn't change cause y'all ain't stop beefing. Y'all kept going.

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Speaker 2: Y'all never stopped.

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Speaker 1: Nah, you know what. To be honest with you, it

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Speaker 1: was like I felt it was mad disrespectful. You understand

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: For Like, it's like, no, like you just killing artists

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Speaker 3: like y'all just you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I understand, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Artists is human beings, but it's like no respect for

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Speaker 3: the artists, like y'all just murking the artist.

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Speaker 1: So that had me super.

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Speaker 3: Concerned, Like you know, I'm like, wow, like it's you know,

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Speaker 3: you already got your concerns when you going on to

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Speaker 3: making sure you're safe, but now just people just get

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Speaker 3: out of here, like by you going you nah, that

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Speaker 3: was crazy?

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Speaker 2: You know what I always wanted to ask. I always

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Speaker 2: tell everybody if we have a hip hop conversation, my

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Speaker 2: it's shook Ones. Right, It's just when you think of

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Speaker 2: hip hop, there's nothing that out hip hop shook ones.

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Speaker 2: Just the raw, just uncut. It doesn't sound like it's

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Speaker 2: and it just feels like that. But I also feel

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Speaker 2: like when a lot of times when they talk about

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Speaker 2: the game, they don't mention you, right, how does that

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Speaker 2: make you feel? Because they'll mention, they'll mention the Dres,

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Speaker 2: they'll mention so many other people, but I never a

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it could get frustrating, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It gets frustrating, you know, when your

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Speaker 3: got nominated for Grammys. And I'm sure we had albums

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Speaker 3: that was platinum at gold during the time when the

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Speaker 1: So I just feel like it's in the same vein.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, my piers, you know what I'm

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Speaker 3: saying when I see them, Like I just seen Doctor

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking at him like, like, you know what

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Speaker 3: I understand what he's saying, because we all inspire each other.

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Speaker 3: So things like that kind of negate the frustration I

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Speaker 3: feel of not being mentioned because I could see somebody

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And that's all I be needing.

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Speaker 2: That's all you need say. They were Prodigy with lyrics.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people don't necessarily understand how

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Speaker 2: lot of those conversations as well either. He don't.

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Speaker 1: But then you have somebody like Jay Z.

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Speaker 3: If you ask him a question about Prodigy, he'd be like,

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Speaker 1: Understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So when people don't involve him in a conversation, but

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Speaker 3: they rapper's favorite rapper is screaming their name, like not

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Speaker 3: screaming they name, but giving them the credit. I think

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Speaker 3: sometimes that's that's the just dude. Sometimes eventually the generation

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Speaker 3: their little investigation like we used to do with the

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Speaker 3: Maybe not tell you because you're a little younger, but

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Speaker 3: you know, with the seventies, like we pulling like James

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Speaker 3: Brown were pulling all these stylistic blue Magic, They're gonna

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Speaker 3: start pulling those mob deep records and be like, damn,

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Speaker 3: what's this?

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Speaker 1: This sounded crazy. I didn't know all that other stuff.

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Speaker 1: They're supposed to be top forty, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And how you mentioned Jay? How did that beef ever start?

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Speaker 2: And do you ever regret never producing for a whole?

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Speaker 2: Is that one of the things?

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Speaker 1: Off top? Of course, you know what I'm saying. As

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Speaker 2: Of producer for every New York great, but right.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's that's the one I'm chasing, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: But shout out the whole. But look, when that beef happened,

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Speaker 3: I had to stay with my brother.

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Speaker 2: How did it start?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: It started because back to what we was talking about

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Speaker 3: we came with La La, and then I think Prodigy

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Speaker 3: seen an all the cool with uh.

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Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I.

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Speaker 3: Think jay Z said something in his line about New

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Speaker 3: York and sought since he didn't appreciate it. And then

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Speaker 3: he says something in a magazine that called hold out

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Speaker 3: his name.

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Speaker 1: Oh is it? You know what I'm saying, This is

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Speaker 1: a call tax sport. He you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: He and his prolem he going right back at Prodigy.

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Speaker 1: So it just started right there.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like that beef hurt Bob Deep.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say that it hurt mall Deep, but

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Speaker 3: it could have did a little nice little delay, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, Because when you got somebody like

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Speaker 3: that just coming at you, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: it's like it's start chipping away at you know that Almah.

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Speaker 2: I always wanted to know what Na said during that

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Speaker 2: time when you because y'all all be fing together right

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Speaker 2: the nads ever say yo, let's do this together. Like

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Speaker 2: what was that conversation?

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Speaker 3: Like, nah, he was on his lone wolf real quick,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. He came out with that ether.

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Speaker 3: It was like, you know what I mean, nobody saw

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Speaker 3: it coming, you know what I mean, we never ever

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Speaker 3: had a conversation about like Yo, yeah, man, let's let's

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Speaker 3: go get them.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump them, let's jump them.

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Speaker 4: Now that said, what what myths about mob deep do

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Speaker 4: you hear and you don't correct or you hear you

442
00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,000
Speaker 4: kind of laugh at I know, there's the one with

443
00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,320
Speaker 4: the high hat sound and like the burner and still

444
00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,840
Speaker 4: I'm still kind of confused about that. Was it a

445
00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,320
Speaker 4: real burner?

446
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:19,480
Speaker 3: Was?

447
00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,120
Speaker 4: And I saw two different answers at one point in time.

448
00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,720
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of myths out there about you

449
00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,240
Speaker 4: guys that you sometimes you say are better than the

450
00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,600
Speaker 4: actual story. So you just let it rock.

451
00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,000
Speaker 3: I mean the one that you just said with the stove,

452
00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,720
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, Everybody keeps saying like,

453
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,040
Speaker 3: it's the stove, it's the stove. I'm not going to

454
00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,439
Speaker 3: tell them if it's the stove or not. I just

455
00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,639
Speaker 3: love the mystique of the stove. It's like that's a

456
00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:39,840
Speaker 3: people like what.

457
00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,800
Speaker 1: The hell y' so?

458
00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,440
Speaker 4: And shook Ones part two. There's the flicking sound and

459
00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,320
Speaker 4: it sounds like you, you know, you crank up the

460
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,600
Speaker 4: stove and like kick. Yeah. So at one point I

461
00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,200
Speaker 4: thought I saw an interview from you and you said

462
00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,480
Speaker 4: that it was a stove and you recorded it. I

463
00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,119
Speaker 4: think I was drink champs. And then I saw another

464
00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,640
Speaker 4: interview where you were like it was a high hat.

465
00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,360
Speaker 3: That you used, right, yeah, yea. I'll be mestling with them,

466
00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,800
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I just I just be

467
00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,480
Speaker 3: messing with it, like I'm never going to reveal that one.

468
00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 3: Why because just the you know, it sounds better, you know,

469
00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,200
Speaker 3: than the than the actual truth.

470
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,320
Speaker 4: So, and I know, you guys got the comic book

471
00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,919
Speaker 4: series that kind of leans into all of the myths

472
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,639
Speaker 4: about mob Deep is you guys, slick Rid ghost Face Nas.

473
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,800
Speaker 4: It's like a one time only series. So are y'all

474
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,919
Speaker 4: talking about more of the myths in that limited comic

475
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,720
Speaker 4: book series or is it just something that.

476
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,720
Speaker 3: Well when they was making it, they was asking me,

477
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 3: like what you think your strengths would be if you

478
00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,040
Speaker 3: would be you know what I'm saying a you know,

479
00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,159
Speaker 3: a superhero or whatever, and it was asking me what

480
00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,640
Speaker 3: I think prodigy strengths would be, and I just kind

481
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,840
Speaker 3: of gave them that, like, you know, everybody wanted to fly,

482
00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 3: be like Superman or have some kind of secret power,

483
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I don't think it

484
00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,640
Speaker 3: added to us like any kind of myth, but more

485
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,400
Speaker 3: along the lines of, like.

486
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,240
Speaker 1: If you had superpowers, what would which one would you pick?

487
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:52,760
Speaker 4: Got you? I thought it was going to lean into

488
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,679
Speaker 4: like all of the old, like the hip hop stories

489
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,720
Speaker 4: that we hear that we don't ever get real answer.

490
00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 1: That's a good angle.

491
00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,240
Speaker 3: I like that might have to massive pill love to start,

492
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, revamp.

493
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,119
Speaker 4: Some of the I did with the rollout right now

494
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,239
Speaker 4: that you're doing because a lot of those conversations are

495
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,200
Speaker 4: coming back up, people are learning it for the first time.

496
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,320
Speaker 4: How different is it for you now promoting your music

497
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 4: and having these conversations with social media versus you know,

498
00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 4: not even the last album, but like early on days

499
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 4: when y'all were running around.

500
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it's way different because now you know, back

501
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 3: in them days, we didn't have no social media.

502
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 1: We didn't have none of that.

503
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 3: So you know, the things that we're doing now, like

504
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,760
Speaker 3: hitting mad, podcasts up and things of that nature. Is like,

505
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,639
Speaker 3: it feels kind of different, but it's the work that

506
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,159
Speaker 3: you put in when you're putting out a project.

507
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:36,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

508
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,680
Speaker 3: I love doing it. I love this time, you know

509
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,440
Speaker 3: what I mean. I get to really, you know, show

510
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:43,920
Speaker 3: what mab deep is all about.

511
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,719
Speaker 2: What artist came to you for a beat and you

512
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,920
Speaker 2: turned them down and then you kind of went back

513
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 2: and like, damn, I should have did that beat? Was

514
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,400
Speaker 2: there any one of those artists?

515
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 1: Uh? Damn, I don't. I don't think so. I don't

516
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 1: think so.

517
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 3: You know, when I do work with artists, you know,

518
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 3: not out of ten, I'm feeling them, you know what

519
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,919
Speaker 3: I mean. But if I didn't want to work with

520
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 3: the artists, they definitely didn't hear back from me.

521
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?

522
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 2: What beat did you give away? You wish you didn't

523
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 2: give away? You would have kept to yourself?

524
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 3: Nah, I or every track there that I gave away

525
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,479
Speaker 3: I was fine with, you know what I mean.

526
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't think I gave away anything now.

527
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: I always I always like to ask because these are

528
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 2: my two favorite beats, My two favorite hip hopp beats.

529
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 2: I want you to break down when you created shit

530
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: ones and when you create a choir star right? And

531
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 2: whose choice was it to put of every artist out

532
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 2: there while little chmp. So let's start off with breaking

533
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: down ship ones. So where were you when you made it? Create?

534
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 2: When you made shit ones? And did you know that

535
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 2: was gonna be what it was?

536
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: Shook Ones?

537
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 3: I made that in my in Queen's Village, in my

538
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 3: mom's apartment where I grew up at right, thirty records

539
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 3: all over the floor, scratch pop, vinyl. Didn't even really

540
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 3: know what I was doing. Then the crew came in

541
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 3: the crib Prodigy all in this, say what's this? I

542
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, it's whatever, whatever. I'm about to turn

543
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 3: the computer, you know, the drum machine. No no, no, no,

544
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 3: no no, don't don't don't turn it off.

545
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 1: Keep it. Kept it. We did a song to it.

546
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 3: Actually we had to Shook one part two, and then

547
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 3: part one, and then this became part two and it

548
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 3: took off. I had no idea what was going to

549
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 3: do that quiet Storm. I ran out of samples, you

550
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 3: know what I mean, I ran out of anything to sample.

551
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 3: So I'm just looking at this sugar Hill Gang record, Like, damn,

552
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: let me just try you for now, because that's a

553
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 3: record that I always passed, like you know, white lines

554
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 3: and all of that. Nobody's not putting that on, you

555
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So put that on, sampled it.

556
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: I said, let me slow it down maybe like you know,

557
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 3: slow it down, throw some rim shots to it, and

558
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 3: just did it.

559
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: Didn't think nothing of it.

560
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 3: Prodigy used to come to my house go in the

561
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 3: basement to the studio while I'm sleep and then when

562
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 3: I went down, he's like, yo, have what's this. I

563
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: was like this whatever, It wasn't nothing, and he did

564
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 3: a whole solo song to it, and then we ended

565
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 3: up making it the first single on I believe it

566
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 3: was Murder Music. And I was kind of a little

567
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 3: upset by then because Chris Lighty, God bless the day.

568
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, we making this the first single.

569
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm not on it. You know what

570
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was like, you made the beat.

571
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: And I think that was the time when now everybody's

572
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: just looking at me as a producer and not even

573
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 3: a rapper. So that was a that's another story, you

574
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 3: know what I mean. That I'm getting looked at it

575
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 3: just as a producer when I just be trying to, like,

576
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: you know, write my life away on the paper.

577
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: But it's all good.

578
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: And then how did y'all get what was the decision

579
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: to put Little Kim? Why Little Kim of all the

580
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 2: at that time? Why Kim?

581
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, ever, you know what time it is.

582
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: We go to the club right now, I'm mall deeps

583
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 3: in the clubs. It's a saucetrege sveets right, you.

584
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

585
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 3: So we like, yo, we need to we need to

586
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 3: get the chicks involved. Who could get who? We could

587
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 3: get Little Kim? And she agreed to do it.

588
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: That I went to the studio, I seen her in

589
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: there writing her verse. She sung a hookover. I'm telling

590
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: you that record took off off like you couldn't.

591
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: It was genius. It was to the day where you

592
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: could put out a street record and it could be

593
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: a single. And this day is Kim's one of Kim's

594
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 2: biggest verses. It just connects hot, damn hole, here we

595
00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: go again.

596
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: And she got that little the dance that she do

597
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: to this day, to this day, to this day.

598
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was thinking about you. You mentioned like going

599
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 4: in the club and like using that and bringing that

600
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 4: back into the music. Maybe some artists do that now,

601
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 4: but I think a lot of artists are geared toward

602
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: like TikTok and numbers and research because the industry has changed.

603
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 4: And he always talks about how lit the club scene

604
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 4: in New York was, and all the artists and all

605
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 4: the things.

606
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 2: Like I was tell her that everybody used to be outside. Yeah,

607
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: when we were always columbing like it was, there were

608
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: no I would say, Richard broke it was. It would

609
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: be the dude from the block on the left side,

610
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: right mob deep on the right, in this corner, kimming

611
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: them on this side. You would see Knaves was always

612
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: in the cup by himself somehow, some way, wiggling in

613
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: and out. You would see the lost boys. You just

614
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: see so many. You would see everybody in the club,

615
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: and you would see how music reacts. And like you said,

616
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 2: it wouldn't matter you play the Gangster's record. Girls was rapping,

617
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: dudes is rapping, And we would go from club to

618
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 2: club night tonight. It was just a feeling in New York.

619
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: I always tell about that. You just could never change.

620
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: It was just something about that.

621
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 3: I mean, it was an amazing time, you know what

622
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: I mean. Like when Street Records was you was able

623
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: to dance to it. You didn't have to make a

624
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 3: radio record, you know what I mean. But once your

625
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: record took off in the clubs, you was kind of

626
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: like pretty much out of it. I think the clubs

627
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: dictated hits, which.

628
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 4: Is not as much anywhere. And I know you got

629
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 4: the tour that you're going on with Ray Kwan.

630
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 3: Yep, we got that the thirtieth anniversary of the Cuban

631
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: Links and the infamous album We're Gonna do the US,

632
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: you know about like eighteen.

633
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: Dates or whatever, and that's dope.

634
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: Actually got rehearsal with Ray Kwan later on today, you

635
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because we taking it serious, like

636
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 3: you know, we some ogs. You know, she gotta do

637
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: our two steps, make sure we're good.

638
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to know too when you signed with fifty,

639
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: When y'all did the deal with fifty, Yeah, break that down.

640
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: And while y'all decided to sign that deal, and where

641
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: were y'all at that point as far as.

642
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: Mob deep to you.

643
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: I mean, if you get off of some ferraris, you

644
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 3: gotta go side the deal absolutely, but nah, fifty called me.

645
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: We was free agents at that point. I think we

646
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: had been on jove.

647
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: If we sold one hundred and fifty thousand records the

648
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: first week, that wasn't good enough for job today. I

649
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: mean that's like probably platinum or something like that.

650
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but it was.

651
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: Happy with exactly, So I guess we was ahead of

652
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: our time or not whatever it is. But fifty called me,

653
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 3: and I had already worked with fifty, like maybe a

654
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: year before that before he was bubbling on the mixtaps,

655
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: I remember, and he was one of my favorite artists,

656
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. We did bump that and

657
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 3: clapped those things or whatever, and that was supposed to

658
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 3: be for my solo album, loud Folded never came out.

659
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: And then the next thing, you know, a year later,

660
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: somebody ain't fifty cents just going bubbling, right, So we

661
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 3: kept that relationship going, and by the time we became

662
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 3: free agents, gave me a call said I don't want

663
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: to sign y'all.

664
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: He swept us up into the g unit. Umbrella went

665
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: on tour and restless history.

666
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: Why how come you never signed more artists? Because you

667
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: you were the producer, you were the artist. How could

668
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: you could have I'm sure signed fifty early on besides Bennoy,

669
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: who did y'all true? You know what it is?

670
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: I guess I haven't ever found the artist that I

671
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: truly like, yo, like I can.

672
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: I just don't want to sign somebody just to sign somebody,

673
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 3: like I guess my my bar is high, you know,

674
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: I really want to sign that artist. Now, this is

675
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 3: an artist that I did want to sign that she

676
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: wasn't signed at the time. It was a Jazmine Sullivan.

677
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: She just came into like right because back then I

678
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: was like getting people to throw reference vocals and Steve

679
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: I was working with stevebej and he knew her and

680
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 3: got her to the studio and I.

681
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: Was like, god damn. I was like, Yo, she's nice,

682
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

683
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: But she's one of those artists that you know it's

684
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: going to get a major record deal and get signed.

685
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 3: You got to come with the business if you want

686
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: to sign a Jazmine cellibent. But for instance, like, I

687
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: don't run across artists like that all the time, and

688
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: those are the artists that I really would have, you

689
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And they feud fall between.

690
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: So you didn't sign her only because the deal situation

691
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: was gonna be what you thought should be. Like, how

692
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: did that not move?

693
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't ready, you know, I'm saying, I ain't gonna

694
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: lie for you know, female artists is like hot maintenance.

695
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It come with a lot,

696
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, not to you know what

697
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

698
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: I mean cause you got gam and branding. And I

699
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: will say, although Jasmine Archie is a little different, but

700
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: Jasmine Sullivant is one of the best singers period in

701
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: the game, right. But I feel like it took people

702
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 4: so long. It was hotels for me when people even

703
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 4: started recognizing her the way that they should have. And

704
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 4: she had been working for so long before that, so

705
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: I'm sure a lot of money was poured into that.

706
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: So I understand what you're saying, But y'all didn't even

707
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 4: have a conversation and attempt to see like what she

708
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: would save to your offer.

709
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: I had the conversation in my mind, you know what

710
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like I wish that I you know, because

711
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: I was just you know, I was in my own way,

712
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But the artist in me

713
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 3: wanted her to shine, you know what I mean, and

714
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: not even you know, try to get in her way.

715
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: But you know that's what it is, like I never

716
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: come across.

717
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: All this or that caliber. It's really hard, right, Like

718
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: you know, so I want.

719
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 4: To go back to the fifty sign y'all conversation. I

720
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: know when you guys signed with fifty and drop music.

721
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 4: A lot of the fans were happy about that, yeah.

722
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: Because you know what I always say it like this,

723
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: fans are like your parents, right, they never want to

724
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: see the kids grow, right.

725
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I want you to stay my baby, Please don't

726
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: get older. And that's what artists are to the supporters

727
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: and fans, right. They never want to see them go.

728
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: Outside the box or grow a little bit commercial, right,

729
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: because it is just ruined, you know that that relationship

730
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: that they have. And I believe that the our fans, right,

731
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 3: because it probably was a mix of the audiences together.

732
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: Like on one hand, fifty is grimmy, right, like he

733
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: got the streets on lock, but then he went super commercial, right,

734
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: and sometimes you know the streets they kind of resent

735
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: that commercialness, you know what I'm saying of an artist

736
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: going that big because they just want that foundational music,

737
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: and they probably were scared that once we signed a

738
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: G unit that we was probably gonna become this commercial group.

739
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: But it couldn't have been further from the truth, because.

740
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: The point of y'all sign of that deal was you

741
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: wanted that expansion of the of the business. Do you

742
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: feel like at that point, y'all make it? Because when

743
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 4: you released from the contract, there was no more business

744
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: with fifty after right?

745
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: No?

746
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: And was that because of the way that the fans

747
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 4: reactor or.

748
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, No, It wasn't because of that.

749
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: I think it was a lot of different factors surrounding

750
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: that whole G unit In the scope thing, you know,

751
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: I think fifty was getting pushed back at in the

752
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: scope regardless of anything because he was just so you know,

753
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: strong minded, you know what I mean. And at that time,

754
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, we sold this amount of records, all right,

755
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: you know, got ahead, do what y'all need to do,

756
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: because fifty was fighting really hard to push us, and

757
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: he was getting a lot of pushback, Like MTV wasn't habited,

758
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

759
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: They was like, play what mall deep with? You know

760
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And he would just sneak us.

761
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: On TRL with him. You know what I mean, Like,

762
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: come on, you know what I mean. They didn't want us,

763
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 3: did Why because we don't fit into the job of

764
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: music y' yeah we don't. We We from the streets,

765
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying.

766
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: They like, you know, they you know, they gate keeping

767
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: a little bit up there. They like, Nah, were good.

768
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Give us somebody else.

769
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 4: Do you feel like because I asked a question to

770
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: get here, do you feel like because of the box?

771
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 4: I guess that the fans kind of put you guys in.

772
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 4: It hurt my deep as a business looking back then

773
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 4: to where things are now.

774
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: Man, it's different ways to look at that. I would

775
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: say no, right, because staying true to your fan base,

776
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: it's cool, you know what I'm saying. I mean, you

777
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: don't really want to do nothing outside of that. Like

778
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to make no pop records with like

779
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: Christina Aguilera and all of that stuff. I mean, you

780
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because it's not who I am now.

781
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 3: The music just becomes fake, you understand.

782
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: But if I was of that, then sure we'll make it.

783
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: Like certain artists was able to do that, but that

784
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: wasn't mall deep now, and if we was gonna go

785
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: that direction, we should have started that early on.

786
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: But that wasn't mal deep. We started grassroots from the bottom.

787
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: Like you know, I do. Got a question. You produce

788
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: for Big fifty, Nas, Meth, Kanye, Wes, Eminem, ll, Mariah,

789
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: just the name of a few. Who is your favorite

790
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: to work with besides producty? Who was your favorite to

791
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: work with with with production? And why?

792
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: Uh?

793
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: My favorite artist to work with that I produced for,

794
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: I would have to say, Uh, probably was like Jadakiss, Wow,

795
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: a little Kim, because those are artists that I really

796
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: respect and revealed. I mean, like Jadakiss is like one

797
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: of the best lyricists out there, so like to work

798
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: with him. You know, it's a pleasure because he compliments

799
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: your beat so well. You could give him a trash

800
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: beat and he make.

801
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: It sound good. You understand what I'm saying.

802
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: So it was it was really a pleasure because he

803
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: and he you know, he's kind of humble when it

804
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: comes to you know, being in the studio and the artist.

805
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: He he wanted the producer to take him in that direction.

806
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: Now you're very humble and now with production what was

807
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: your favorite beat to produce?

808
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: Why?

809
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying by Jada Kiss because I

810
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: just you know, it wasn't really too much of a

811
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: big deal for me when I made the beat. I

812
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: mean the beats not don't got crazy bells and whistles,

813
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: but as you can see it, it's minimum production. But

814
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: he just turns it into this whole big production, you

815
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: know what I mean. With Anthony Hamilton. Then he's questioning,

816
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: going why why this is why that? You know at

817
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: the times when we got a lot of questions.

818
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 1: So I love doing that for him.

819
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: Also wanted to ask, right, besides why, what was the

820
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: most difficult track to get cleared?

821
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: To get clear?

822
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: To get clear?

823
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: Uh, the most difficult tract to get cleared probably was,

824
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: Uh we did a print sample one time.

825
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Uh hell.

826
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: So you had to send it to Prince.

827
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, we said there and he was like, hell,

828
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: I was at the studio with you and every day,

829
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: but little bro, we ain't clear that Prince. Yeah yeah, yeah,

830
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: it was me and Snoop was there too. Snoop made

831
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: the post to what happened. So I was in the

832
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: studio with time Electric Lady, Electric Lady.

833
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: I think he even owned the studio at one point.

834
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: It's right there on West Fall Street or whatever it was.

835
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: So I'm in there, we're working on the album. I

836
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: figured what album it was. And one of my homeboys

837
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: that I used to just have driving me around was like, yo,

838
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: princes outside, I'm like, get that out of there.

839
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: You're crazy, you bugget yo. Prince walked in my session, yo.

840
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: Like pants on and he didn't.

841
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: He didn't have leather pants on, but he was like

842
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: my height, and I'm sure, like you know what I'm saying.

843
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, but you know, but his presence

844
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: is just like crazy. And he started helping me.

845
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: With the keys and playing on the keys and then

846
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: just whist the way he just left. That.

847
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: Didn't even get a picture with him, No nothing back then.

848
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't even think the phones was ready for pictures

849
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: back then, you know what I mean.

850
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: But that was my Prince story.

851
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: So what was the beat? So he so, y'all, Actually

852
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: it was some song that.

853
00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: Ended up I think that should not kill Yeah.

854
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot where it ended up at, but you know,

855
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: it was snoop on the record, prints on the keys

856
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: and we just wrap it and you wouldn't even be

857
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: able to tell that Prince placed any keys on it

858
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: because it was just really simple. But the fact that

859
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 3: he did, you know what I'm saying, is something that

860
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: I definitely would never forget.

861
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I thought you're gonna say god Fall the Part.

862
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: Three, Well, that was a hard tape for the Clad too.

863
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: That How did you because that was my movie.

864
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's Steve Rifket magic. You know what

865
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

866
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: Steve Rifket, he know how to do business to clear

867
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: some samples. So we definitely cleared that.

868
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 4: I saw a report that that song actually wasn't that

869
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: on the Infamous Archives, but you guys didn't improve it.

870
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it was.

871
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: I it's so long ago, I don't even remember. But

872
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: you you're probably right, you know what I mean?

873
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: So fuzzy.

874
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got some memories.

875
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: No you got I wouldn't you? Do you get paid

876
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: every time I see one of these stores sell a

877
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: Mob Deep the infamous Mob Deep shirts. Do y'all get

878
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: paid over that?

879
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: Well, if it's official merch, yes, But I combat infringement

880
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: every day, yo, I mean, they just they I mean,

881
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: and it looks so good and so like I want.

882
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: To buy it.

883
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, you know, sometimes I go to shows

884
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: and they be having on this merge that I know,

885
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: mall deep diss sanction.

886
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 3: I don't want to say nothing to them, but if

887
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: we have a problems imagined wu tang, it's the most know.

888
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: So these are things that we got to combat every

889
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: day that people don't even understand.

890
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: Like they said, oh, it's so easy to be an

891
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: artist and you y'all just sit back, you go to

892
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: the shows. Nah, there's a business aspect where you got

893
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: to protect the trademark. It's serious.

894
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 4: What's the fright? I mean, it is very serious, specially

895
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 4: because you have so many years of so much history

896
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 4: and y'all fans spend across so many age ranges. What's

897
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 4: the fight like right now? Though? Like are there certain

898
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: stores or people like where you even aiming to because

899
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: y'all stuff is everywhere everywhere.

900
00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: I mean, look, we we do license deills with certain brands,

901
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: whether it be you know whoever like Supreme or thing,

902
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 3: and that's another.

903
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Story, you know what I mean.

904
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 3: We had a horrible time over there that something happened

905
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: and they used the image and we got sued.

906
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: It was like crazy, But those are things.

907
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: That you have to like kind of watch out for.

908
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: But we license out the brand sometimes, you know what

909
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: I mean. But more than not, infringement is rampant.

910
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: What Supreme y'all used the picture that y'a didn't taken.

911
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: The photographer came back.

912
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: And it was the dragon image, you know what I'm saying.

913
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: And I kind of forgot about it because I got

914
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: the tattoo, so I'm not even really thinking about it.

915
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: I think in the late nineties early two thousands, they

916
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: had used the image in some group I'm not going

917
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 3: to say they name, said oh that's out and nobody

918
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: knows them. They probably got like, no, lie, two hundred

919
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 3: followers on Instagram. Nobody knows them, you know what I'm saying.

920
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 3: But they took advantage of an opportunity. It is a

921
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: federally trademarked image, you know what I'm saying. They got

922
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: the rights and they told us back in the nineties

923
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: and say hey stop and then I forgot you forget.

924
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: So pre was like, yo, is this yours?

925
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, yeah yeah, But you know,

926
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: the lawyers was like, okay, we're gonna check it, right,

927
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 3: that's the lawyer's job.

928
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: They didn't check it. The lawyer said, like, I'm gonna

929
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: check it. You understand what I'm saying. I'm like, all right, cool,

930
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: you know, go check it. I'm making beads, like you

931
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Go ahead, But you gotta really

932
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: be diligent because getting sued is not fun. It's not funny.

933
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: It costs a lot of money. You have to answer it.

934
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: And we settled, of course, and it's just you giving

935
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: away free money. You understand hard working money.

936
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: So and I meant to ask, you know, with all

937
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: the stuff that you produced and all of the records

938
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: that you've done, do you get all your money from

939
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: that stuff? Cause you had a lot of times that

940
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: when artists do something, they don't get their money. Somebody

941
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: else gets the money. Do you get all your money

942
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: from them?

943
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: I was fortunate enough to do a publishing deal early

944
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: that was super fit, right, I didn't sign away all

945
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: my publishing, And I'm down with people that collect diligently.

946
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying things.

947
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 3: But you know, of course, there's going to be corners

948
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: pockets in the world where you're not collecting, and then

949
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: new forms pop up. They like, oh yeah, back in

950
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: the days, y'all didn't know that this was over here

951
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: and y'all could collect the back and there's a bag

952
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: sitting over there like overseas somewhere for whatever it is.

953
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: But for the most part, we get our bread like

954
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: for real, you know what I mean.

955
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: I hear horror stories and I feel bad for all

956
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 3: this and whoever took advantage of them, you know what

957
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

958
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: They need to be you know, it's a special place

959
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: for them.

960
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask, what's the biggest bag you ever

961
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 4: you ever missed out on, because just business wise, you

962
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: didn't plan for that.

963
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: The biggest bag I missed out on was for a

964
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 3: super Bowl commercial. They wanted to use the Mab Deep

965
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 3: music in the super Bowl commercial and for whatever reason,

966
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: a lawyer took too long and we missed out on

967
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: the opportunity.

968
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, that hurt still hurt with this album as

969
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: a passion project, because obviously you don't need the money

970
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: if you're still getting paid.

971
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: I ain't say that.

972
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: Infinite is out this Friday, and we appreciate you for

973
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: joining us.

974
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: Man.

975
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: I love these stories and I just love to see

976
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: the growth because I was a kid in Queens and

977
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: I watch what y'all did, and we we admired that,

978
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: you know, I mean from the driving the cars, the

979
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: shooting the shook Ones video to all that we got

980
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 2: a chance to see it. So the fact that you're

981
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: still heavy and you're still doing it, man, we appreciate you.

982
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 4: And this is we got a date for the method

983
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: Man Covid Covid album.

984
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the memphd Man Covid.

985
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: We don't have a date, but me and him are

986
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: actively in the studio and he tried to put me

987
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 3: in the head like I didn't let him, but he said,

988
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: we gotta.

989
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: Finish this album for a couple of months for a date,

990
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 4: but okay.

991
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: We'll have one. So though, thanks for joining us, though,

992
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks for having me.

993
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: The album comes out this Friday. It's Havoc. It's the

994
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. Good morning, every day, Breakfast Club.

995
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: Finish y'all.

996
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 2: Dump