1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone, 2 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have a great episode 3 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: for you today. We're going to be talking about the 4 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: voice actor from King of the Hill who is murdered 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: over the weekend. Tectonic plates moving around the globe. There 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: were two volcanic eruptions this weekend. A tragic story involving 7 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: a father who died giving his daughter driving lessons. The 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: terrorist attack coming out of Boulder, Colorado. An update on 9 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: a story we brought you about a child that died 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: during routine dental work. Weed. Yes, we'd found in a 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: popular kids candy and crazy things that happen when you're 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: on magic mushrooms. All that and more on today's episode. 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: Let's get started with this King of the Hill actor, 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: So Jonathan jos He was the voice of John Redcorn 15 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: on King of the Hill. So this story's kind of weird. 16 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: He was murdered over the weekend, and then more information 17 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: started coming out about what happened. It seems that his 18 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: house burned down in February because he was using a 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: barbecue pit to heat the house. Because he claims the 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: city shut off his power and his home was deemed unsafe, 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: so the house burned down back in February, and then 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: he went to go check on the property on Sunday 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: to collect a victim's fire fun checked and then apparently 24 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: when he was there he saw the skeletal remains of 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: one of his pets in I guess the rubble from 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: the fire. Started freaking out, according to the neighbors, and 27 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: then got in a dispute with a guy two doors down, 28 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: which resulted in that guy driving over him and shooting him. 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: There seems to be a little bit of drama in 30 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: this neighborhood, so this doesn't seem like it's the first 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: altercation that he's had with the neighbors. Now, what's really 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: interesting is that his husband is it or boyfriend. His 33 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: husband or boyfriend came out and wrote a post saying 34 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: that he was a victim of a hate crime and 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: it was a homophobic slurs and everything like that that 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: caused this guy to kill him. So now there's dispute 37 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: over what actually happened. Law enforcements saying they don't see 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: any indication of that. The husband is acting like they 39 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: were just standing there innocently having a meltdown because they 40 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: saw the skeleton of their dead dog, and then all 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden, this guy just came up to them 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: and started saying homophobic slurs and shot him. 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: So I think, like, let's I think two things could 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: be true. I mean, he could be having this volatile 45 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: ramp like all the neighbors are claiming, and the guy 46 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: that shot him also could have said something that wasn't. 47 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, And I think that that's probably what happened. 48 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: And I don't know because we are going to be 49 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: talking about the Boulder thing obviously later and as far 50 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: as like what's considered a hate crime versus not. But 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that this guy killed this guy just 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: because this guy was gay. I think it was because 53 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: they were fighting all the time and they had some 54 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: kind of rage towards each other. 55 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: It seems, yeah, because I'm basing a lot of this 56 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: off of what the other witnesses said in the neighborhood, 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: and they were saying these rants happened all of the time, 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: and the police was called on him quite frequently before 59 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: the house burnt down, so it wasn't abnormal that he 60 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: would be acting in this way. Some of the people 61 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: were saying that he would go on his roof in 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: the middle of the night in bank pots and pans. 63 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: I mean, no, would pissed anybody off that you liked 64 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: her and like why yeah, like why? So I don't 65 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: know what was going on with this guy. I mean 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: he seemed kind of like all over the place. I 67 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: don't think a regular person just goes on the roof 68 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: and makes all that noise in the middle of the 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: night and soar. 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: Like has fires in their living room to heat their house. 71 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because I was just thinking alone of 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: like the carbon monoxide risk with that, but then it 73 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: burned the house down. 74 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: So a lot was going on in this story. 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: And I mean the police as of today are really 76 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: adamant it's not a hate crime, but obviously, like this 77 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: only happened two days ago, so they really need to 78 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: continue on with their investigation. But I'd say, based on 79 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: what other witnesses are saying, most likely not. 80 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about something really exciting. Volcanoes. I like, 81 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: this is one of my bucket list things to see 82 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: liquid hot magma coming out coming out of a volcano. 83 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 1: It's just is the coolest looking thing ever. 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: Well, yesterday you were like add the volcano eruption into 85 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: the stories, and I was like, oh, I already did 86 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, and You're like, how did 87 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: you do it a couple of days ago? It just 88 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: happened because there was two volcanic eruptions in the last week. 89 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: So the first one was in Hawaii at the Killaway 90 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: volcano in erupted last Sunday for six hours. The fountains 91 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: reached over a thousand feet high. Isn't that crazy? Like 92 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 2: just seeing all the lava and all like the liquid 93 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: hot magmas you're saying shooting out at the top. 94 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: So I just would love to I mean, seeing it 95 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: on video is just not going to do it for me. 96 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: I need to see it in real life. And the 97 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: one in Italy is the one that I wanted to 98 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: see in particular because friends of ours, our neighbors Rita 99 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: and Bill, we go out to dinner with them often, 100 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: and they're much older than us. They're in their seventies 101 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: their late seventies, and they are world travelers. And one 102 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: time Bill had told me that they he went on 103 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: a tour of this Mount Etna. He tried to bring 104 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: Rita and his friend's wife. They had to walk up 105 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: this giant thing, you know, to get there obviously, and 106 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: she was just like at the very bottom there was 107 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: this restaurant and her and her friend were like, you 108 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: know what, We're going to just sit here and drink 109 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: wine while you guys go on this volcano tour. And 110 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: she said it was just so pretty. She was just 111 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: sitting there drinking wine and seeing lava go over the edge, 112 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: which was so cool. And but Bill was telling us 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: and this was probably like back in the seventies when 114 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: he did this, when there were like no rules, you know, 115 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: but he was saying that there was this thin rope 116 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: that went around the edge of the crater and he 117 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: was able to just like look over and see this, 118 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: which is outrageous. So when you look at the footage 119 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: from the news, you could see that there were people 120 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: on an active tour when this happened, which is I 121 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: don't know, like if I had to die in any 122 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: kind of way, that would be like, I mean, I 123 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: don't want to be burned to death or breathe in 124 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: any of these gases that would potentially kill me, but 125 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: it would just be kind of a cool story. 126 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: Honestly, I disagree with you because I watched that Netflix 127 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: documentary about the people who were on a tour in 128 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: New Zealand at the Wakari volcano when it erupted and 129 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people just like vaporized in the thin air, 130 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: and it seemed like an absolutely horrible way, like they 131 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: were essentially just boiled alive. 132 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: The people that survived well, So we wrote a high 133 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: profile death dis section on this in the Grosser Room. 134 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: And it's because this is a different kind of volcano 135 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: that it's not the same one that hot like liquid 136 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: magma comes out of. It's another kind of volcano that 137 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: is underground, called a submarine volcano, and instead of lava 138 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: coming because that doesn't come to the surface because it's 139 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: so underwater that it makes hot steam and gases come out. 140 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: But it was the same thing. People were on a 141 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: tour with a cruise ship. It was just what was 142 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: it like a royal crew like one of these common cruises. 143 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: Was like hey, oh in New Zealand when you're in 144 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: New Zealand, like why don't you come tour? 145 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't a cruise like you took a boat to 146 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: go to the island, because I think it was like 147 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: a tour that you know, how like we're going on 148 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: a cruise and they're like, hey, do you want to 149 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: go see this cave or whatever? 150 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: It was like an excursion. Yeah, it was like an 151 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: excursion on a cruise, like nothing, and ten thousand tourists 152 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: a year would visit this volcano and this one time 153 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: it ended up going off and you have to sign 154 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: a weaver. So anytime you have to sign a waiver, 155 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: you always have to be like, Okay, they know something 156 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: really bad has happened or is going to happen, but 157 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: they make people wear gas masks and stuff like that. 158 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: But apparently this eruption went off when people were there 159 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: and like scolding hot water came out and burned people 160 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: so bad, and twenty two people died and two what 161 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: wasn't it Like two of them never would Their bodies 162 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: just weren't found. 163 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what I'm talking about. They just like vaporize 164 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: and thin air because of how like. 165 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Crazy it was. Yeah, so I don't I mean that 166 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: that one. I don't know if I would care about 167 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: as much because you don't get to see the lava anyway. 168 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's still it's still so cool, but it's 169 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: the same thing as like We've talked about people going 170 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: in these hot springs and this and that and just 171 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: going too close to things you shouldn't go to. I like, 172 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: I get that, but I don't know. For a volcano 173 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: like the one in Italy, I think I would make 174 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: an exception. I don't know. 175 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: Like I we all know that I'm not adventurous cards, 176 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: so what idea is. 177 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Like, I'll stay in the hotel and watch it on TV. 178 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: It will give me the same feeling. 179 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked all the alt shots in Italy of 180 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: everybody like eating their pizzas just watching it like far 181 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: off in the distance. 182 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: So cool. 183 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: No, it's really cool looking. And the one in Hawaii 184 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: is really interesting because apparently this was the twenty third 185 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: eruption since Christmas, it's been erupting about once a week. 186 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: And I was looking at the live stream of it 187 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: this morning and it looks like it's about to go again. 188 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: So this happened in Hawaii last two Sundays ago, so 189 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: it looks like it's about to go again. And then 190 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: I guess in Italy this is the biggest eruption they've 191 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: had ETNA in about four years. 192 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: But it's erupted twelve times this year already. Yeah, I'm 193 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: always like that has to happen when I go visit there. 194 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: Not too bad. Just like even if I could look 195 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: at it from Afar eating something, it would be nice. 196 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: But something I thought was interesting with ETNA was they 197 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 2: said it started having activity in the middle of the night. 198 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: So why would you still allow the tourists to go 199 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: there in the morning, because. 200 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: There's probably a limit of where they decide it's okay 201 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: for people to go. I don't really know how it works, 202 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: I do. I thought the same thing, like, I thought 203 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: they had some notification that the thing was about to go, 204 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Maybe it showed that level before 205 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: and it never was dangerous enough for the people to 206 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: be there. But no one got. 207 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: Hurt, right, I don't believe anybody got hurt. People were 208 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: definitely running. I mean I would run after I saw 209 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: that Netflix documentary because that seemed absolutely horrible and people 210 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: were like all the way up there. But when you 211 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: saw it from the distance, I mean, it is just 212 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: like one of the coolest natural things to see videos. 213 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I would love to see something like that 214 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: in person, but maybe not so up close. 215 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: All right, So this, God, this is the true definition 216 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: of a freak accident. Yeah, over a Memorial Day weekend, 217 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: a father was teaching his fifteen year old daughter how 218 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: to drive. And so during the lesson, they were in 219 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: a parking lot at a grocery store. But somehow she 220 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: hit this fence in the parking lot and she plummeted 221 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: forty feet into an embankment below, which ended up killing 222 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: the dead. Oh my god, how tragic. Right, And so 223 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: many of us could on I mean, like so many 224 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: of us could relate to this apparent or an adult 225 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: in our life taught us how to drive. Right, So 226 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: we've always we have always been in that situation, one 227 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: of us at least at some point in our life. 228 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: You know what's weird? So in California, I'm assuming you 229 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: could drive when you're sixteen there, because fifteen years old 230 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: is so young for a permit, Like in New Jersey 231 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: you have to be seventeen or eighteen years old. There's 232 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: I know, they they bumped it up. I think when 233 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: I was a kid, I don't even remember. But did 234 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: they say since when I was seventeen? Did they say 235 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: she had her permit? Yeah, they said that she had 236 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: her permit. 237 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: Because parents oftentimes will teach their kids to drive before 238 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 2: they even have anything, So it's sad. In one of 239 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 2: the articles that I read, it said that she had 240 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: a permit, So I don't know what the rules are, 241 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: but it and it doesn't matter. 242 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it does matter to me. I feel like 243 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: you should wait a little bit. The older you could 244 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: wait with kids, the more their brain is developed. But 245 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: this is a common thing that people hit the gas 246 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: instead of the break or whatever. And you know, so 247 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: she was maybe she was trying to go into reverse 248 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: and went and drive by accident or you know, something 249 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: like that, one of those types of things. So it 250 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: just is a freak accident because they so happened to 251 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: be right on the other edge of a cliff. And 252 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, like you couldn't even make this up if 253 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: you tried. But she survived. The car flipped upside down, 254 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: she survived. The dad didn't like, imagine how she's gonna feel. 255 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: Just terrible. 256 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it would be understandable if she didn't want 257 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: to drive. Ever, I mean, the first time you're trying 258 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: to learn how to do it, it's really traumatic. I 259 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: think too, when you're a teenager and you're just learning, 260 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 2: you kind of like freak out because you just don't 261 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: know where stuff is and you don't think you're going 262 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: to react quickly enough. I mean, I even remember, you know, 263 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: you guys taught me to drive, and then when I 264 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: got my license and I was allowed to drive by 265 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: myself for the first time, I went to the post 266 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: office and I was laughing. 267 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: The entire drugs. It's like, this feels so weird, and 268 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: like I was so scared. I also think when I 269 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: was teaching you and when Pop Pop was teaching me, 270 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: it's like, didn't we go to the acme parking lot 271 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: and just where there was like not a car in sight, 272 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: that there would be no way you could accidentally do anything, 273 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: Because well, I think that's what happened with them. 274 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: I just don't think they realized the edge of the 275 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: parking lot was like's on a cliff. So yeah, I 276 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: think most people go to parking lots because it's a 277 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: lot of open room. But I guess in this landscape, 278 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 2: I mean, we don't really live in like a mountainous area. 279 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: I'm just going to say, we're really flat here, so 280 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: maybe that's it. She is what totally sucks, all right, 281 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: So this was the other story we were talking about 282 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: hate crimes and things. This is definitely a hate crime. 283 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: I think it's even been categorized as a terrorist attack 284 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: because it's trying to scare a group of people, which 285 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: clearly it is, because I would be terrified right now 286 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: to know that there were psychos walking around just trying 287 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: to kill me based upon whatever my religion is or 288 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: my thoughts were, which is super scary. But this guy, Yeah, 289 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: all of this news broke. Of course, this is all 290 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: on video because it was out in broad daylight. This 291 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: guy just dressed up as. 292 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: A gardener or a landscaper with molotov cocktails in a 293 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: backpack that some a similar set up almost to if 294 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: you were putting a chemical in a weed spryer, and 295 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: he sprayed gasoline on people and set them on fire. 296 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and police were saying it was almost kind of 297 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: this like makeshift flamethrower thing that he devised. But he 298 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: attacked this peaceful pro Israel demonstration. It happened broad daylight, 299 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: like you were saying, totally out of nowhere. These people 300 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: were just like doing their thing, peaceful protests, and this 301 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: guy comes out of nowhere and starts attacking all of them. 302 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: Eight people ended. 303 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: Up going to the hospital with burns. They ranged from 304 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: fifty two to eighty eight years old. I can't imagine 305 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: how horrible these injuries must have been. I mean, burns 306 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: are some of the worst things we cover well. 307 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: And some of the some of the witnesses of the 308 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: attack said that it was skin was melting off of 309 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: these people's bodies. One person had it from their ankle 310 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: all the way up to their butt. The one man 311 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: said that there were these really deep cuts inside of 312 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: one of the victims and there was blood pouring out 313 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: of them. And now at this point, you're talking about 314 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: like third and fourth degree burns from this. So so yeah, 315 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: obviously gasoline is very flammable. One thing that people, even 316 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: the suspect people, don't realize is that gas has such 317 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: a low flash point, so that's when it catches on fire, 318 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: just the vapors of it. And Gabe shows me videos 319 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: sometimes of like there was this one that was going 320 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: viral of this woman like setting her boyfriend's car on 321 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: fire or whatever, and a lot of times he was 322 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: saying that too, like a lot of times people don't 323 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: realize that use this, that just the vapor in the 324 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: air alone can cause such a powerful explosion or flame 325 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: that even if you pour it somewhere and you're further away, 326 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: it could just ignite because it's in the air that 327 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: the volume of it in the air is so high 328 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: that it catches on fire very easily, which makes sense 329 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: because this guy, it was a lot of people thought 330 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: that he got burned himself because he was wrapped up, 331 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: appearing to have wounds as well, which would make sense 332 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: because he had it on his body so close to 333 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: him like that. So, I mean, the scary part is 334 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing is scary, But to me, it's even 335 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: scarier to think that this guy was planning this for 336 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: an entire year and he's so he's not from here, 337 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: he's from Egypt or something and came here on a 338 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: visa which is expired, so technically he's not even like 339 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: he's illegal right now because his thing expired. Whatever. But 340 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: this guy's got a wife and kids, and he has 341 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: a daughter that was about to graduate high school, and 342 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: I guess she did because he said he was waiting 343 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: for her to graduate high school. 344 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 2: And then three days later executed the attack. Like why 345 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: even wait, you still ruined her life. It's so fucked up, 346 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: So you if you hear about this. 347 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: Apparently some Colorado newspaper published an article with a student 348 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: who was matching the daughter's description, and she was saying 349 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: how her family immigrated to the United States after living 350 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: in Kuwait, and her dad had undergone difficult surgery when 351 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: she was young, which is interesting, and restored his ability 352 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: to walk. So I'm wondering if that injury had anything 353 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: to do with what's happening in the guy's brain. But 354 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: she was saying that that was what inspired her to 355 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: want to go to medical school, and saying it was 356 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: a dream that would have been impossible in Kuwait but 357 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: within reach in America. Like this, this girl seemingly wanted 358 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: to like have an American dream which is now destroyed 359 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: because of what her dad just did. Like how's she 360 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: going to have a normal life living here? 361 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because I guess she could still, in 362 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: theory go forward with medical school, but like, you're gonna 363 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: forever have this attached to you, And I feel like 364 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: in this situation, it's like, what are you gonna do 365 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: change your name or like move when you've had. 366 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: This already out it. This is the problem with social media, 367 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: like she's or maybe the problem or not the problem, 368 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: but she's outed on social media, like everybody knows who 369 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: she is and what she looks like, it's all over 370 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: the place. So it's like and even so like if 371 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: she let's say she has graduated high school now and 372 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: she was planning on going to college in September, taking 373 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: summer off, going to college in September, Like, is she 374 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: gonna be able to start college in September after this? 375 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, It's just it's so it's so 376 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: selfish and crazy. And then then you have to think of, Okay, 377 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: well he was like living with a wife and kids, 378 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: like nobody had any idea that this was happening, Like 379 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: it just, well, I don't think all the time. 380 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: It's obvious, you know, so you can't like family, I don't. 381 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: I don't assume that they know. I just think that 382 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: I think a lot of things are And it's interesting 383 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: too with this story because there's a couple people that 384 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: were witnessed that something in their head during this rally 385 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: they were having or demonstration or protest or whatever, they 386 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: noticed that something wasn't right, and they were like something 387 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: triggered in their brain, like, hey, that's weird that there's 388 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: a guy doing landscaping right now on a Sunday, because 389 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: like landscaping companies usually don't work on the weekends, right, yeah, 390 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: they and like why would they be landscaping when there 391 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: was an active thing going on. It's just a little weird, right, 392 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: So it triggered some people to just be like, you 393 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: know what, like I'm just gonna go away from this 394 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: right now. And you always have to use your instinct 395 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: whenever you see something weird, and this could happen too 396 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: in situations where like I'm sorry, but like this dude 397 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: has been planning this for a year, like somebody that 398 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: knows him thought that he was off in some kind 399 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: of a way. There's no way that you're just like 400 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: a he was an uber driver, by the way, which 401 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: is also freaking scary. It just to think that you're 402 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: getting in the car with somebody like this. Yeah, And 403 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying like his wife didn't know, but you 404 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: can't assume that because I think I know. I'm just 405 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: saying that I just don't believe that there was never 406 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: any kind of hint of it. And I get that 407 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: people like want to ignore because there's a big difference 408 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: between people that are just like full of hate and 409 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: have rhetoric versus people that are actually going to do it. 410 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: I mean, think about that story we talked about with 411 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: the mom that bought all those supplies for her school 412 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: shooters on, Like if the grandmother didn't call police, that 413 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: plan might have gone through and he might have killed 414 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: a lot of people. Sometimes a lot of family members 415 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: see these glaring red flags smacking them right in the 416 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: face and they are like, oh, in denial about it 417 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: or exactly they don't want the trouble of it. Yeah, 418 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, this is really unfortunate. 419 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: I don't understand why this guy's being held on ten 420 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: million dollar bond. If they've determined this is a terroristic 421 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: threat or a terroristic attack, why even set. 422 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: A bond for somebody like that. It's kind of for 423 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: I was a wondering that today too. But all of 424 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: his charges that they are putting on him, if he 425 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: gets convicted of him, he'll be in jail for like 426 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: over a hundred years or something something like the rest 427 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: of his life. But yeah, I don't know, because that's 428 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: another thing too, like if these like you don't know 429 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: who people are, right and what kind of money they're 430 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: connected to. But like, if I think it was a 431 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: ten million they said it was ten million dollars cash bond, 432 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: which means you have to come up with all of 433 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: that or just ten percent of that. I don't know. 434 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: I don't know, but like to me, listen, Like to me, 435 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: people figure that out. 436 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't know. That's why he is a super 437 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: rich family member elsewhere in the world that could give 438 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: him the money. So I'm like, why even said it, 439 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: even if it's astronomically high. You don't know what people 440 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: have in their back pocket. I don't know. I don't 441 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: know what determines like when people get it might just 442 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: be on the jurisdiction like they're they might not put 443 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: no bond on anyone in that particular area. I'm not sure, 444 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: but whatever, We'll keep you updated if we hear anything. 445 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the thing that really sucks is that most 446 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: of these people are elderly. It doesn't even matter if 447 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: they're young or elderly, but it's just kind of like 448 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: when you're old, you get older, your body hurts. You've 449 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: been through so much in your life. You have to 450 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: get hip surgery, and you got cancer and this and that, 451 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: like this is cool, like thanks that you're putting these 452 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: people through this, Like the rest of their life is 453 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: going to be absolutely torturous skin grafts, surgeries, hospitalizations, infections, 454 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: Like it's just it's so messed up and I don't 455 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: know what to say about it. I don't understand how 456 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: anyone justifies in their mind. And that's why I think 457 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: it's more alarming when when it's planned out for a year, 458 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: because it's not impulsive at all. It's just like you're 459 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: you're really messed up, like you're walking up to a 460 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: human being and setting them on fire. Like it's so weird. 461 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just really disturbed. This episode is brought to 462 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: you by the Grosser Room guys. So as promised, we 463 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: did our high profile that the section this week on 464 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: physician assistant suicide, and I think that we learned a 465 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: lot of things that we didn't know. I didn't really 466 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: I know that some of the people had to take 467 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 2: if they were self administering, had to take medications and 468 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 2: a combination of medications, but I certainly didn't expect to 469 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: hear that in some cases the people have to take 470 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: one hundred pills, and just the stories and the accounts 471 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: of people that witnessed this, this physician assisted suicide with 472 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: their family members are not great as you would think 473 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: that they would. 474 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: Just fall asleep and go out of this world. So 475 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: it was a really interesting post to write, so check 476 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: that out in the Grosser Room. We also have some 477 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: other cases of maggot, so a lot of cases of 478 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: maggots involving healthcare workers on live people. So that's a 479 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: pretty interesting debate that we're having right now hearing the 480 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: stories of some people that have went through this at 481 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: their job. So check out the Grosser Room. 482 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, head over to the Grosserroom dot com. Now, okay, 483 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: so a while ago we talked about this little girl 484 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: who died after going to the dentist and I think 485 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: initially we thought it was complications from the anesthesia, but 486 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: now the medical examiner has new information. 487 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: Well it's not it's not really new information. When did 488 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: we talk about this, It was baks ago. Yeah, so 489 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: so at the time when when this this little girl 490 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: she was getting routine dental worked on and the family 491 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: was saying that they discharged her when she was still asleep, 492 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: and then throughout the day they they were checking on 493 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: her and stuff, and finally they found her unresponsive, so 494 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: they called nine one one and she was pronounced dead. 495 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: So when they did the all time, so they did 496 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: think it was something about the anesthesia because she was 497 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: so young and she didn't have any history of an 498 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: underlying health problem or anything like that. But they said 499 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: ultimately her cause of death was from met hemoglobinemia, which 500 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: is globin is a form of hemoglobin that is a 501 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: protein on the red blood cells that carries oxygen throughout 502 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: the body. And they were saying it's in the background 503 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: of the nitrous oxide that she was given for or 504 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: the laughing gas you would say at the dentist's office. 505 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: So it leads to a condition called hypoxia, which is 506 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: when the oxygen cannot go on the blood cells and 507 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: go to all the organs and provide your entire body 508 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: with oxygen and then you die. What's interesting about this 509 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: particular so this particular diagnosis you can get either naturally, 510 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: so it could be a genetic thing that causes that. 511 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: Did you ever see that guy that was making his 512 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: rounds on like the Povich Show and stuff that he 513 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: was called Papa Smurf and he was like blue, Uh, yeah, 514 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: I feel like he had like blue skin, So he 515 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: had like the congenital or the genetic variant of that. 516 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: And I think there's been a lot of articles done 517 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: on that guy, like the the Smurf family. In the 518 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: blue I found that. 519 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: Was like the colloidal silver. Remember Mother Mother God was 520 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: like blue turning blue too, and she. 521 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: Was not with not with that particular guy, but so yes, 522 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: or you could get it from chemical exposure, so with 523 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: the nitrous oxide, sodium nitrate, things like that could cause 524 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: it as well. So I'm wondering if that was one 525 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: of the things that was a striking finding at autopsy 526 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: that she had this this this bluish tint to her skin. 527 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: And but yeah, so just getting the results back in general, 528 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: So that guy, right, I'm trying to look for it 529 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: in my nose right now. Remember back in twenty and sixteen, 530 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: he was also accused of almost killing a fifty four 531 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: year old that was put under anesthesia which caused his 532 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: heart to stop, and the investigator said that it was 533 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: because he was given drugs that he shouldn't have been given. 534 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: So this guy's already had a potential issue with anesthesia. 535 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: And we were saying at the time when we reported 536 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: this back in April that it's scary to know that 537 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: your dentist has already been accused of almost killing someone 538 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: with anesthesia. It's something like you don't even know happened. 539 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I also can't really wrap my mind 540 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: around discharging a patient that's still asleep. I was thinking 541 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: of all the times I've had anesthesia and I've been 542 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: monitored for like a while after waking up. So I 543 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: don't understand why in any world where that is a 544 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: normal procedure. 545 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: I don't either, all right. So the next story that 546 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: we have is this story about it took place in 547 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: the Netherlands, I believe, where people bought brand name candy 548 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: from a store and we're having all of these symptoms 549 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: with it, and got the candy tested. Did they test 550 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: the candy? Who tested the candy? No? So let me 551 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: go over what happened. 552 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: So this family in the Netherlands bought these Harry Bo 553 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: Happy Cola Fizz candies, so they ate them and a 554 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: couple of people got sick. So they had reported it 555 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: to the Netherlands Food and Consumer Product Safety Authority. They 556 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: tested the bags and then found that weed was in 557 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: three of the bags full of gummies like in the gummies. 558 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, like in the product front, what's the brand, like 559 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 1: the ribot, like the gummy brand, Yes, like legit candy. 560 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: And it's scary because they don't even know how many people, 561 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: like obviously they're recalling all the bags, but they don't 562 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: know how many kids ate it. People ate it. I 563 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: mean kids could get really sick from it, especially sick, 564 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: more sick than smoking it or anything like that, because 565 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: ingesting it is just stays in your body so much longer, 566 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: you know. So the agency had reported this to harr 567 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: and then they looked at products made with the similar 568 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: sheerial number and batch number, I guess. So they've recalled 569 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: ones that had to sell by date of January twenty 570 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: twenty six, and from there they're trying to figure out 571 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: how they even got in the gummies, because of course, 572 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: if they're in the gummies themselves, not just the bags, 573 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: this is like a major manufacturing issue because they're going 574 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: into the ingredients themselves. But they're saying at this time 575 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: they're not sure how they got in the candy, or 576 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: if the bags were even made by Harrabo or if 577 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: there were something. This is like the russ shooting, right, 578 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: like how did a live bullet get into a gun 579 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: that was a prop gun when it shouldn't even have 580 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: been on set. It's the same thing like how did 581 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: weed get into candy that it shouldn't even be in 582 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: the factory? It's well to me, it's far to me, 583 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: it's more realistic that there are weed gummies that are 584 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: falsely wrapped with harrab wrong labels. Oh my god, what 585 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: like like somebody that made weed gummies put them in 586 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: a Harrobo bag Because I can't possibly fathom how you 587 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: would get the weed into the ingredients of the gummy 588 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: bears in the facility. So you're saying it's like a 589 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: mislabeling at the factory. No, not a mislabeling at the factory, 590 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: like a fraud used the Harribo bags now I wrap 591 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: their product. I don't think so, because why would anybody 592 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: do that? Like what are you saying, like the comedience 593 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: store person, like why would you think like somebody actually 594 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: just like took weed gummies and put them in a 595 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: bag and hung them up to sell them. Like that 596 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: doesn't even make any sense because like why would anybody 597 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: put no? 598 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: I think because I think they got switched up, like 599 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: I could see a world in which they're put in 600 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: this bag to disguise what they really were. 601 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what the legality of marijuana is in 602 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: the Netherlands. Aren't they pretty open about it there? I'm 603 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: thinking of Amsterdam. Yeah, I don't know, so, I mean 604 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: Amsterdam is, but I don't know if the whole place is. 605 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm just saying because remember, like a couple of years ago, 606 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: I had to put a ban on shaping weed gummies 607 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: in the US, like gummy bears, because they were too 608 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: similar looking to the real candy. 609 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what if a drug dealer. 610 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: Over there is using brand name bags to disguise them 611 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: so they're not getting in trouble, and then somehow they. 612 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: Got mixed up. That theory is far fetched. 613 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm just saying to me, it's equally as far fetched 614 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: that all this weed got into the ingredients and got 615 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: manufactured into the candy. 616 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: Well, I I don't think so. I mean, like I 617 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: think that. What you know, how like when you get 618 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: peanut butter or regular eminems and it's like, oh, this 619 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: is made in a factory that's got peanuts, so like, 620 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: don't eat this if you get sick kind of thing. 621 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it's like these things are being made in similar 622 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: factories and then there's no way they just should be 623 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: the wrong. Yeah, but like it's not allowed, but whatever happened, 624 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: it happens like something happened. 625 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but with weed, Like all right, this isn't like 626 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: a piece of metal from the machine making the gummy 627 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: bear mixture got in the gummy bears right like, and 628 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like they were visibly in there, like 629 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: floating in the gummy I mean it's clear candy, So 630 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: like this had to be some type of oil or something. 631 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: I just find know what I'm saying, Like I'm saying, 632 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: like okay, on this conveyor belt, there's gummy bears that 633 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: are for weed, right, and then this conveyor belt is 634 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: the Haribou gummies. And like the rappers, the role of 635 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: rapper that the person put on the machine was like 636 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: mixed up. 637 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: Literally nobody could take that chance ever that that is 638 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: it's not a chance it is, but it's like if 639 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: the dude work in there was high, then like this 640 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: makes total sense. I don't freaking know. 641 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: You can't be making like Xanax and mints on the 642 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: same like machine. 643 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: They looks like I just hope the label. I don't 644 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: know what the hell's going on in the Netherlands over there. 645 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't know at this point, they don't know how 646 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: it got in there. They don't even know if it's 647 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: really their product in the bags, but it was bags 648 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: that said hairbo and they did take the steps to 649 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: recall candy. I mean, I don't understand how this could 650 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 1: possibly happen. I'm really interested. 651 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: It wasn't a kid though, right, it was an adult. 652 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: It's at a family with a couple people. 653 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: Listen, Like, honestly, I told you I had a horrible 654 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: story of taking a weed edible. It was like the 655 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: worst experience I ever had in my life. I was 656 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: going out of my mind. If I took that and 657 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: didn't know that I took it, I don't even know 658 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: what I would do. I would call nine one one 659 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: and just be like, dude, I'm like freaking out right 660 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: now you've most called what do you do it? I 661 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: almost do yeah, I did, because I thought I thought 662 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: that I was like dying. It was terrible. It was 663 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: so terrible because like the you know when you and 664 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: and I smoked it at that time, right, so it 665 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: was like Okay, I was used to it, right, what 666 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: what is it? Oh, I'm just gonna take a piece 667 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: of this edible instead because I don't want to physically 668 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: smoke it. And like no, no, no, it hits way longer, 669 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: it lasts longer, it's more intense. It's just nothing I 670 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: ever experienced in my life. Like I would think that 671 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: that was like some really good or you should say 672 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: bad acid I was on or something. I don't even 673 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: breaking now. It was terrible. I think you just I 674 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: literally called my husband and told them to come home 675 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: from work because I was scared to be alone. Like 676 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: it was ridiculous. I think you just took too high 677 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: of a dose. 678 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: Because like back in the day when gummies first started 679 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: floating around, they said they were ten milligrams, but they 680 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: were really like sixty or seventy five. So you would 681 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 2: only eat half, thinking you're eating five, but then you're 682 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: really eating a lot, and then all of a sudden 683 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: you're falling asleep at Longhorn Steakhouse. 684 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: Wasn't me. I thought I thought that I was poisoned. 685 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: I did. I thought that that's so ridiculous. No it's not, 686 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: because it was terrible. I don't I don't take back 687 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: my reaction. It was not overreacting. I was. I was 688 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: sitting there and like you know when you're cold outside 689 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: and your teeth chatter, like I was shaking. I couldn't 690 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: stop it. It was terrible. I find I'm interio tweaking 691 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: out in the corner. It was so terrible. And then 692 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: Gabe came home from work and was like, go to 693 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: bed right now. Remember when I called him and he 694 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: was like, you being telling me I need to close 695 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: my company and come home because you took a weed 696 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: gummy or something. 697 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, And this is why I 698 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 2: actualy such a Karen now I am, because it's fucking 699 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 2: terrible and people shouldn't be doing that shit. It was. 700 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: It's terrible. I have personal experience with it, Like I 701 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: could you imagine taking that and driving and shit, or 702 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: like functioning or making haribou gummy bears in a factory? 703 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: Like you can't. You can't function on that stuff, would you. 704 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even think to call like anybody about it. 705 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: I would just assume I had like food poisoning or something. 706 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: I don't even know what you would do in this situation, 707 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: you would. 708 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: Because how do you know it's from the gun times. 709 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,959 Speaker 1: This happened to my sister one time. Right, we had 710 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: this is like typical mom on fashion, all of the 711 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: all of the pills in the house, like in the 712 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: medicine cabinet or like some like Kmart brand, you know, 713 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: Walmart brand, whatever you want to call it. This was 714 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: back in This was back in the early two thousand, 715 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: so I'll call it Kmart brand. Right, And Annie had 716 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: a headache and she took a talent all and went 717 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: to school to college, and she like called me and 718 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: was just like I don't know what's wrong with me. 719 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: I just can't keep my eyes open, like I don't 720 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: know what's wrong. And I was like so scared. I 721 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 1: thought like she was, I don't know what I thought 722 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: was happening. Right, No, I go and look at the 723 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: til and all I said, did you take any medicine? 724 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. She's like, yeah, I had a headache. 725 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, like, oh my god, she's like like 726 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: having a stroke or so I don't even for She's 727 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: like the next tile in all poisoning vigeine, like I 728 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: don't even know. And sure enough I go in the 729 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: cabinet and it's like some shit that MoMA had these 730 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: like til and all PM in a regular container box 731 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: or whatever it was. So she took two til and 732 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: all PM and didn't know it. She took regular tilet 733 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: all and like, obviously, when you don't know that you 734 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: took something like that, you're automatically like something really bad 735 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: is happening right now, you know, Like imagine taking talin 736 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: all PM in the middle of the day and being 737 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: at college and just like feeling that way. 738 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 2: Can we get scary? Can we talk about people who 739 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: put different pills in different name bottles, because I've vividly 740 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: does it all the time. 741 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: He does it all the time. He like brings his 742 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: all his medications if we own a trip and stuff 743 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: and his vitamins whatever, They're like all mixed in one container. 744 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, dude, this is a terrible idea. 745 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 2: No, he does do it, because one time I asked 746 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: him for a ibuprofen eight hundred and he gave me 747 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 2: a pill and I was like, this does out of 748 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 2: his weird little glass jar and You're like, no, it 749 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 2: was out of the ibuprofen eight hundred container. And I 750 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: looked at it and I was like, this looks different. 751 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: Than the ones I normally take, and it was like 752 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: a blood pressure pill. 753 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, what are you fixing them? Every single time? 754 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, do you have something? I always go on 755 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: like that pill finders like website I do because I'm like, 756 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't trust you. But I vividly remember 757 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: growing up at my other grandmom's house and then being like, 758 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: don't ever take anything out of the bottle ask her 759 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: for because she would just mix them up. Yeah, Like 760 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: what are you doing? 761 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's just like a strange thing. 762 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: I understand combining like medicines, even though you probably really 763 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: shouldn't do that, but I think I'm like opposite. It's 764 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: so crazy. I have like one of those boxes that 765 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: lit that list. 766 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: Like a m PM Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, like everything separated. 767 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 2: No, I'm not even talking about pill organizers. I'm talking 768 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: about putting like clariton in. 769 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 1: The tailant all bottle. I know, just why even Well, yeah, 770 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: and that's what happened. Like Annie took a you know, 771 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: Thailand al PM for college bright Daylight. Well, you have 772 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: her what I call the munch House in closet, which 773 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: is like all of your over the counter drugs finally 774 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: organized in those drawers. What this is the thing? Right? 775 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: It's like, let's say, friends sample, when Luccia was having 776 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: that weird psoriasis that turned into a fungal infection, they 777 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: gave her like fifteen different prescription creams. So what am 778 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: I gonna throw them out? No? I keep them aside 779 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't know, I might need this 780 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: for a rainy day, and that's that's how it goes. 781 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: So I just save everything, like I don't know that's 782 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,479 Speaker 1: what happened. That's that's how I had a modium ad 783 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: from two thousand and eight in my cabin. It's still yeah, 784 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: that was like a couple of weeks ago, but it 785 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: was after Easter, and I don't even know what happened. 786 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 2: I might have had some like low grade food poisoning 787 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: or whatever. You did not have food poisoning because nobody 788 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 2: else had food poisoning. We all ate the same food. 789 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: Well I did. I had to because what else was it. 790 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: That's that's all it could have been. It was just 791 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: like like a couple day thing that was just terrible. 792 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: So I was like, didn't I have to get my 793 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: sutures out from my biopsy or something from my face. 794 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: It was something that I had to go. I had 795 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: to drive, so I was like, all right, I'm just 796 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: gonna take a modium, so like I don't poop in 797 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: my car, right, So I go in my in my 798 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: Munchausen's closet to get my emodium, and I look at 799 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: it and because like if stuff's like four years expired, 800 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't really care, honestly, but like this was it 801 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: said it was two thousand and eight. I don't even 802 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: know how it's here because I I haven't even lived 803 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: the house since two thousand. Yes, that was like when 804 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: I went to Drexel. That's what I've expired. That's what 805 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: you were like thirteen, yeah, or right, like how old 806 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: were you when I started school? You were like thirteen 807 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: or fourteen years old? Yeah, So anyway, yeah, that was funny. 808 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, that's a little too 809 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: a little too long for myself. You know, I had 810 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: to replace it. So now there now it's there in 811 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: the munch Housing closet in case you ever need it 812 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 1: when you come over. 813 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: But when I got in Pentago that one time, you 814 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: did have the career I do. 815 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: I just saw it. I have it up there. Well, 816 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: I have everyone that you took. I have another one. 817 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: I have a backup anytime, so we don't we don't 818 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,959 Speaker 1: ever have to go to the drug store. Everything's up there, 819 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: all right. So speaking of drugs, this this so Lara 820 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: sent me this story, and I have a really really 821 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: good story to tell you about Lara with this. Okay, So, 822 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: over Memorial Day weekend, two hikers called nine one one 823 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: to say that their friend who was hiking with them. 824 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: Died and they were lost and didn't know where they were. 825 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 2: But when the police got there, their friend was very 826 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 2: much alive, and it turns out they were just all 827 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 2: tripping on mushrooms. 828 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: I love this so much. So the reason so, when 829 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: you take this philocybin, the magic mushrooms, that's like the 830 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: magic chemical in them. People take low doses of it 831 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 1: that they say it helps with like anxiety and depression 832 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, like what are they called a 833 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: micro dose? But if you take it, it's it's essentially 834 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: like taking Nature's acid. It makes you hallucinate. Right, So 835 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: the reason Lara sent me this was funny story. When 836 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: we when we were teenagers, we were going over my 837 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: mom doesn't even know the story, but she'll know after 838 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: she listens to it. I think I know this story. 839 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: So we so we worked at hot topic together at 840 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: the mall when we were teening, and she was like, hey, like, 841 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 1: let's my dad is out of town for the weekend, 842 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: so like, let's hang out at my dad's house and 843 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: we'll like watch movies and hang out or whatever. Right, 844 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: because we always had like a really great time. So 845 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay. So I go over there and she's like, look, 846 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: I have a surprise. I made these these weed brownies 847 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: or something. I don't even know what it was, but 848 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: they I don't know if they have mushrooms out on whatever. 849 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't even remember how mushrooms got into it. Maybe 850 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: they were in the mushroom or in the brownies or whatever. Laura, 851 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: you could clarify this for me. Whatever happened, we were 852 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: sitting there and we eat so we eat these mushrooms, 853 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: and we're sitting there. We were like laughing and peeing 854 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: our pants and having a great time, and I didn't 855 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: really think like anything was even off, which is exactly 856 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: what happened with these people. Like they literally called nine 857 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: one one and thought their friend was dead and like 858 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: they didn't realize that. They were just like imagining something happening, right, 859 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: So we eat and like we had all there was 860 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: all this food in the house and her dad had 861 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: been out of town. So we're like eating all this food. Oh, 862 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: I want tomato soup. We made tomato soup or like 863 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: dipping our bread in all this stuff. Okay. We wake 864 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: up the next morning and we're like, all right, we 865 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: need to find something to eat. And we go to 866 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: get the same exact bread that we were eating the 867 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: night before with our tomato soup. And it was like 868 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: dark green and fuzzy, mold covered bread like it was 869 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: there was not an ounce of whiteness on the bread. 870 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: It was like full fur. If you had a loaf 871 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: of bread in the cabinet for like six months and 872 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: we ate, we ate like half of the loaf of it. 873 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: It was outrageous. And then I was like freaking out 874 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: because that was like before I learned anything medical or anything. 875 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh my god, we're gonna 876 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: get so sick. And I remember called I called my 877 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: mom and I was like, what happens if you eat 878 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: moldy bread? Because I ate some by accident. She's like, oh, 879 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: you'll be fine whatever, like you might get diary or whatever, 880 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: and that was it. Like I didn't tell her what happened. 881 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, I think like it was 882 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: an accident, but yeah, no, so that was what happened. 883 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: It was It was great. So that was like a 884 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 1: huge joke. Obviously we still have to this day because 885 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 1: she sent me this story. 886 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna tell the story at the 887 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 2: time you ordered two pizzas because you didn't really know. 888 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: That's no, that was it. That was an acid story. 889 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: Actually that was actually a hilarious story too though, when 890 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: like me and my friend like worked at Hairslon and 891 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: we both called out of work that day, which was 892 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: like obvious, and we just like we just sat there 893 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: all day and we did that and then we ordered 894 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 1: pizza and then she was laughing so hard when she 895 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: ordered the pizza that she like hung up on the 896 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: mid call. And then we called back again and ordered 897 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: it and then from a different place though, and then 898 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: the other person came first from the first pizza place, 899 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: so then we had like you know, like enough food 900 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: for like six different people. Like, yeah, that was funny. 901 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: That was like hilarious. But yeah, so. 902 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 2: Good story, miss anti drugs telling all their funny drugs. Listen, 903 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 2: when I when I did drugs in the nineties, it 904 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: was just not like it is today. Okay, and I 905 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 2: am listen, this is you exactly, Like do you want 906 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: to hear people that are are straight edge telling you 907 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: not to do drugs or people that have done them 908 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: and been like okay, Like, listen, I didn't really have 909 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 2: any kind of a negative experience with doing mushrooms besides 910 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 2: eating moldy bread. Okay, so like I don't think it's bad, 911 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 2: but like, I also wouldn't trust getting any kind of 912 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 2: drugs like that. 913 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: At this point unless you knew where you were getting 914 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: it from. But like, and yes, it was like totally 915 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: stupid to just get stuff like that because you're just like, 916 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't know where the hell this came from or whatever. 917 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: But certainly with the weed, I have experience, And listen, 918 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: no matter what mushrooms I did or asked, I didn't 919 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: do that much of it. Only a few times in 920 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: my life. I have never been as messed up as 921 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: when I ate the weed edible. I'm telling you right now, 922 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: I've never been that out of my mind, not on anesthesia. 923 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: Never been that out of my mind. I was out 924 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: of my mind. It was. It was so crazy and 925 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: to think that that is legal right now is outrageous 926 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,479 Speaker 1: to me. It's just outrageous. It's it's outrageous because yeah, 927 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: I probably took too much, but like, guess what, but 928 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: people don't know. People don't shake. And the scary thing 929 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: is is like when you spoke weed, within a second, 930 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 1: you're like, I'm high, right, Like when you do an 931 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: edible it might take up to hours for you to 932 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: even feel it. So people are like, oh, I don't 933 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: feel it, let me take it. More happens all the 934 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: time and then people are like oh god, and they're 935 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: in the corner crying and like, yeah, it's it's just terrible. 936 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: All right. 937 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 2: Let's drive on to questions of the day. Every Friday 938 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: at the Mother knows that the Instagram account, you guys 939 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 2: can head over to our story and ask us whatever 940 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 2: you want. First, can you please tell the people well 941 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 2: that colon cleanses are a scam. Colon cleanses are a scam. Listen, 942 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 2: I've seen ads and stuff for people showing this animation 943 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 2: and illustrations. 944 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: Of the colon being like blocked up with poop, similar 945 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 1: to what you would see like in a pipe that 946 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: had stuff stuck to it. And I could tell you 947 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: that I've opened Like listen, people get backed up with 948 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: poop for sure, but once it comes out, it doesn't 949 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: stick to the inside of the walls like it would 950 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: a pipe. That could lead to a blockage like that. 951 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: The way they show it on the illustration looks like 952 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: it's straight up as like like a build up a 953 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: draino commercial. Yes, that's like that's what it looks like, 954 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: and that doesn't happen, So uh, I don't know a 955 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: lot of people are they swear by it? I like, 956 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: and I guess like a lot of people feel that 957 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: way too, Like if you take a laxative and like 958 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: sometimes people just want to like clean it out. But 959 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 1: those things cleaning cleaning you out and get those canulas 960 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: getting up your butt, they could perforate your colon. The 961 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: stream of the water could blow a hole through your colon. 962 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: There's been documented cases of that happening. The people that 963 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: are doing colonics aren't I don't believe that they're trained. 964 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 1: It's just kind of like a side business. There used 965 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: to be a chick that worked at the Medical Examiner's 966 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: office that had a side business of that, which I 967 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,479 Speaker 1: thought was so weird. I'm like, oh, you cut open 968 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,280 Speaker 1: dead people during the day and you just do colonics 969 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: at night. Very very bizarre. But yeah, like I just 970 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's a great idea. I 971 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: think the risk of perforation just would scare be enough 972 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: to not want to do it. And I don't really, 973 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. And then there's like coffee enemas that 974 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: people do. I don't know. I just think it's hype. 975 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: It's just like saying everyone has parasites. It's like the 976 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: parasite cleanses up there, that's the that's the colonic of this, 977 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: set this or whatever. 978 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 2: You know. 979 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally all right too. Tips for staying safe 980 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: while pregnant, working in the gross room, specifically with formaline. 981 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 1: Oh god, while I worked in the grosser room until 982 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: I was thirty six weeks with both pregnancies, and so 983 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: did my friend Andrea, and so did my friend Sybil 984 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: and Maria. I'm trying to think of all Karen was. 985 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: Karen was too, Like every single person that I worked 986 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: with was pregnant and worked in pathology so I remember 987 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: at some point there was a PA student who was 988 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: pregnant who got some letters site from her doctor saying 989 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: she couldn't like work in the lab because of the formalin, 990 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: and we were all so pissed. We're just like okay, 991 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: Like I remember doing an autopsy with Maria and like 992 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: she was such a little petite thing anyway, and her 993 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: belly was so big and like pulling bodies on the 994 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,720 Speaker 1: tables and stuff. I don't really know what to say, 995 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: like is just make sure that your hood at your 996 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: job is like actually working, because at my last job 997 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: it didn't work. Of course, that was when I was 998 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: pregnant with both my kids, so that was really fun. Also, 999 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: so my friend Andrea had a very very unusual circumstance 1000 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: a couple actually, but she so so Andrea was like 1001 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: our research PA. So she mainly only did the frozens 1002 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 1: all day, but we had a lot of frozens, Like 1003 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 1: some days we get like one hundred frozens, and but 1004 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: Andrea did all of them, and then we would go 1005 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: in to help her if there was too many. Right, 1006 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: So Andrea was like again, she worked up until I 1007 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,439 Speaker 1: think she was like she worked up until she had 1008 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: ev so I think she was like thirty eight weeks. 1009 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: And so one time she was doing a lung that 1010 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 1: came down for cancer, a fresh lung d because she 1011 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: would take the tissue and take it for research if 1012 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 1: it was tumor, if there was enough to take. So 1013 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: she was doing a lung that came down for cancer 1014 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: and she cut it open and it was TB So 1015 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,240 Speaker 1: she was exposed to like straight up TV from someone's 1016 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,280 Speaker 1: lung right in her face. And then the weirdest one 1017 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: was that we got a brain biopsy from someone thought 1018 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: it was a brain tumor, looked at it under the 1019 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: microscope and it was toxoplasmosis, which is a fungal infection 1020 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: that is present in cat poop, which is why they 1021 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 1: tell you when you're pregnant you can't change the cat litter. 1022 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: So now here she is exposed to it. So when 1023 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: she cuts the frozen section, like the little tiny pieces 1024 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: are now like going in the air and everything like that. 1025 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: And I remember she called her obstetrician and was and 1026 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: was just like, Hi, I just did a frozen section 1027 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: of a brain that had a toxoplasmosis, Like what should 1028 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: I do? And the doctor was just like well, I 1029 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever heard that before. I don't know, like, 1030 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: let me look it up and see what to do. 1031 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 1: So Joe we does have like a very unusual job. 1032 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: So she I think it was like a couple weeks 1033 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 1: before she was having the baby anyway, And I think 1034 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: the exposure with toxoplasms is more concerned early on with 1035 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,479 Speaker 1: development and stuff, so it wasn't that big of a deal. 1036 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: So from then on out, she started wearing what with 1037 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 1: every lung after the TV once she started wearing an 1038 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,760 Speaker 1: N ninety five mask every time she did a frozen, 1039 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,439 Speaker 1: which is not something you would typically do. But then 1040 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: she didn't do it with the brain one, because you like, 1041 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: why would a brain have anything like that? Yeah, just 1042 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: so rare. So I guess all I'm trying to say 1043 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: is like, if you, if you really want, if you, 1044 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: if you work in a population that has like high 1045 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: infectious stuff, the foremuline is just like just try to 1046 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,919 Speaker 1: work with it under a hood the best you can 1047 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: and and like pray. I don't know, my kids are 1048 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: like definitely not normal, so I can't promise that your 1049 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 1: kid's gonna be come out good. I don't know, So 1050 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 1: sorry if i'dn't have anything better to say. 1051 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's reassuring to an expecting mother. 1052 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: All right, last favorite comfort movie. I don't know what's yours. 1053 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,280 Speaker 2: I would say like Parent Trap, Pride and Practice. 1054 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: Say Parent Trap too, actually, because I we watched, like 1055 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: I watch that with the kids a lot. 1056 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I liked Classic one, like When 1057 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 2: Harry Met Sally. 1058 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: Like. 1059 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 2: I like them because they're like chill and relaxing and 1060 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 2: they're beautiful to look at, you know. 1061 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, like Moonstock, anything like that, any old like old movie, 1062 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, because it's funny. My kids do that now, 1063 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: Like you know when you're a kid and you just 1064 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,359 Speaker 1: watch the same thing like six hundred times in a row. Yeah, 1065 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: we had so many movies like that growing up, like Goonies, 1066 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: Back to the Future, all that kind of stuff. So 1067 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: it's just like when you say it, you're like, oh, 1068 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: this is kind of relaxing, Like you could just put 1069 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: it on in the background and you know what I 1070 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: meant to tell you. 1071 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,720 Speaker 2: It was remember when we went to DC for Little's 1072 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 2: birthday a couple of years ago and we were watching 1073 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 2: National Treasure, which was weird that it was on, and 1074 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 2: then like that's when Lulu's nosebleed situation happen. A game 1075 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 2: jumped up all dramatic. Well, what I was at Washington, 1076 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 2: DC this weekend? It was on again, like all night marathon. 1077 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,280 Speaker 2: Really so weird that it's always on in hotel rooms. 1078 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 2: Oh that's I just told them I wanted to watch. 1079 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 1: I forgot we watched it because we because Lulu just 1080 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 1: went to the Constitution Center. 1081 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 2: So I was like, yeah, the field trip that I 1082 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to go, I know, so ridiculous. Well, we 1083 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 2: have an exciting announcement in July. You are going to 1084 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,720 Speaker 2: be going to Atlanta to do a meet and greet. Yeah, 1085 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm having a meet and greet and probably a lecture 1086 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 2: the next day maybe, which will be super cool. So 1087 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,919 Speaker 2: stay tuned for details of the lecture, but the meet 1088 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 2: and greet. Uh, The tickets are definitely available right now. 1089 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 2: If you live in Atlanta or anywhere near there, you 1090 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,880 Speaker 2: should check it out because we don't really go a 1091 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 2: lot of places. So yeah, we're gonna but we're gonna 1092 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 2: go hang out with Cheryl McCollum from Zone and seven 1093 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,839 Speaker 2: and it's gonna be it's just gonna be super fun. 1094 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,399 Speaker 2: I'll bring a bunch of books, so I can sign 1095 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 2: a book for you if you want, and we can 1096 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 2: hang out and then you can see the lecture the 1097 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 2: next day, so that'll be fun. 1098 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1099 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 2: So we don't have many details about the lecture right now, 1100 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 2: but right now you could buy the tickets to the 1101 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,879 Speaker 2: meet and greed. 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