WEBVTT - Kevin Pollak: Creating vs. Waiting + Impersonation Tutorial 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:04.720 Really now really. 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:11.559 Really now really hello and welcome to Really Know Really 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.080 with Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden. In this episode, you'll 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.840 discover how one of our hosts was originally cast in 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:22.480 Rob Reiner's Oscar nominated film A Few Good Men alongside 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.400 Jack Nicholson and Tom Cruise, and then eventually became uncast. 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.520 You learn about the relationship. 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:30.760 Between misery and comedy, and you'll get a tutorial on 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:34.559 how to impersonate Christopher Walking from a man who actually 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:36.760 got that part in a Few Good Men but is 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:41.480 also a comedian, impressionist, author, and director. Wow, this guy 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.120 sounds great. He should do a podcast. Oh wait, he 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.000 is also a celebrated podcast host. Yes, Kevin Pollock has 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.000 truly done it all, But for now, here are two 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.800 guys who've lived up to a mere fraction of their potential. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:01:00.840 Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden. Now really all right, Well 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.720 you ready? I think we're gonna have fun. I think 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.840 this is what I have to do to get ready. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.160 Well, yeah, on the shirt, this is this really no really, 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.560 my friends? Is well what we're about to use as 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.040 a really no really to me is no big deal. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.560 But to you I left. You were gobsmacked. 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.240 So you Kevin Pollack, I think before you love cover 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:23.360 and he's a great guest. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.360 And but we only do really no, really, we don't 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.119 just have people. We don't just have people. 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.679 Are because one day you just said to me in passing, 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:33.080 you know, I was supposed to get through all in 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:33.880 a few good men. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.840 And I look at you and I go, and you went, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.559 what happened? I went, I couldn't do it. So Kevin 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.840 Pollack did it? And I were like, how the hell 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:48.200 worlds are colliding? 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.440 How does that happen? That Kevin Pollack would replace you? 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.080 Like like it was. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.200 It wasn't how it could replace you, it was how 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:57.120 are you casting? 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:57.520 Really? 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:57.600 No? 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.240 Really, because I can imagine you in the courtroom seen 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:04.160 there but Cruz and Nicholson and all that. Not because her, 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.200 because I'm I'm such a lot I have. 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.760 I don't have the dramatize Kevin Pollack. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:14.120 Yes, no, the last three Yes, no, because just like 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.320 I couldn't imagine Kevin as George Costanzo, there are once 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:18.680 it's ingrained in your head. 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.960 Yeah, it's there. Kevin did such an amazing job. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:24.960 Anyway, That's what flabbergast did Peter, and so it was 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:30.200 a good excuse to have my now very old and 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:34.200 dear friend Kevin Pollack. You know him as an actor, comedian, impressionist. 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.600 Uh. You know him from films like Oh Few Good Men, 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.639 Grumpy Old Men at the Sequel, Grumpier Old Men, Casino, 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.760 End of Days, or as Usual Suspects. He was a 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:48.800 god on The Marvelous Missus Masel. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.559 He is one of the progenitors of the podcast. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.720 He had a podcast, you know, chat show. The one 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.440 that made me laugh is and doing the research. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.520 You actually created a show called Talking Walking where you 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.760 just did the whole podcast as Christopher Walker. 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.120 Correct? Is that correct? What people do? Christopher Walker? What's 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:06.520 the premise? 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:11.120 No? No, I would have someone on as a guest 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.000 and we would talk about the minutia of life for 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.400 forty five minutes or so, and I spoke only as 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.880 Christopher Walk. But we never we never referenced me or 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.639 Christopher Walker at any point during the conversation. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.760 To me, it's so wonderful that you went for the 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.720 It's like going for the joke and then sticking. 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:28.880 With the joke. 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:30.560 It's called committing. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.520 It's called committing and I got to tell you in 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.360 starting this episode. 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:35.720 You gotta tell me. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.119 I gotta tell you this because it's really important. There's 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.600 a lot that we're going to talk about. But it's 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.680 usually interesting for me that something bubbles to the surface 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.000 that is important. And you had set a line in 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.360 some interview you gave that said, if if you're not creating, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:51.680 you're waiting. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.000 Yeah, and that is a mantra. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:55.840 Yeah, that hit me really big. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.640 Well, I appreciate that very very much because it means 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.119 a lot to me. So the fact that it would 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.520 mean anything to anyone is always a pleasure to hear. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.320 It started around the same time as that first podcast, 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.600 Kevin Pollock's Chat Show in two thousand and nine. It 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.240 was sort of the chat show was sort of born 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.760 of that because as actors or comedians or any quote 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:21.159 unquote piece of talent, we're taught to wait for the 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:25.080 phone to ring. And so instead of waiting for the 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.360 phone to ring, the idea was, you're limited by your 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.120 imagination only, so create whatever you want to do. And 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.320 so many people have done it over many, many decades. 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.840 So yeah, so if you're not creating, your waiting and 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:37.240 what do you waiting? 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.480 But you know, it's but the fact that you created keV. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.680 What I what I admire about the chat show was 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:49.039 you were taking your episode well, yes that was a standout, 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.760 but you you created in an area that wasn't really 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.680 yet a thing. So the fact that you have created 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.719 in areas that were not yet ripe for the picking 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.560 were you I don't quite know what the rewards are 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:02.080 going to be. 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.479 Yeah? Are you drawn to that? 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.920 Are you intrigued by these other things, these other areas. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.240 Yeah, it's probably why I wrote a book, directed a 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:18.560 couple of movies, because I wanted to keep diversifying and 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:23.760 expanding my opportunities by creating them, you know, I mean, 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.120 and yes, I did absolutely wait for the phone to 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.880 ring for many years. Yeah, between being a stand up comedian, 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.800 rising to the local scene in San Francisco where I'm from, 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.200 moving to LA and then getting my first job in LA, 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:42.039 there was at least at least two hundred auditions where 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.520 at one point it wasn't they started to feel like, 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.520 how about anyone but you was going to get right? 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:50.479 Yeah? 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.240 So yeah, and in fact it was a few good men. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:56.280 That's what was the goal line of going from auditioning 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.919 to getting offered, Yeah, and to be clear to the 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:03.400 earlier up as we discussed on the chat show many 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.520 years ago, and has you know made the circuit. But 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.679 I'm glad Peter hadn't heard it before because it allowed 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.560 me to come on your program here. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:11.719 Yeah. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.120 So I was doing a summer series created by Rob 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:19.480 Ryner Christopher Guest for CBS that nine people ultimately ended 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.400 up watching, called Morton and Hayes. And I would have 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:26.640 lunch every day with Rob Reiner, and he at one 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.159 day at lunch pointed his sizable finger in my face 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.760 and said, this next film I'm doing was a big 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.640 Broadway success. I got Tom Cruise. I think we're going 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.359 to get Jack Nicholson. And there's this part of Tom's 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.600 co council that you're you're perfect for. I've got an 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.200 offer out to Jason Alexander, but if Seinfeld gets picked 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.800 up for a second season, he won't be available. And 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.160 I'm just not realizing you you could do this, and 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.039 you know a couple things. A. I went home, of course, 0:06:54.080 --> 0:07:00.400 and prayed for Jason's success more than intensely than I 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:06.480 had prayed for anything ever. But also just the people 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.400 talk about good luck, right. So the fact that I 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.320 was having lunch on a daily basis of Rob while 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:17.120 he was casting that movie is just completely utterly luck 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:17.600 of the drug. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.240 Yeah, hell, you know, it's so funny. 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.440 I mean, I know you for so long and we're pals, 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.080 and there's so many things I don't know about you, 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.600 and I don't want to drag you over old territory, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.200 but just I'm gonna ask. I heard you tell the 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.480 story that when you were a kid, you'd come out 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.320 of the movies and you would be doing, you know, 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.280 a piece of the movie. You'd be imitating something for me. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.200 But I was a fan of theater and film and 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:43.720 whatnot when I was a kid, But it took me 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.320 until I was a teenager before I ever thought about 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.080 being a part of it. And it happened by accident 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.360 because we moved from one town to another and the 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.520 theater kids picked me up and I wound up on stage. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:57.600 How did you actually decide this is what I'm gonna do? 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.160 And was the family behind you? 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:03.760 And I mean you went from being a cute, funny 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.240 kid who imitated the movies that he saw to going 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:06.920 I'm gonna do this. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.400 What was that journey? 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:13.480 Yeah, well, my mom told me that as early as 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.560 age four or five, when she took me to the movies, 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:20.600 when we exited the theater most of the time at 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:26.000 conclusion of the film, sometimes a little early. We didn't 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:31.360 have patience for bad as a team that I would 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.880 not necessarily be impersonating, but I almost in a zeleig way, 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.719 had become someone in the film. So a little four 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.960 and a half five year old pisser was Marlon Brando 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.440 for no reason, and she just marveled at it and 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:50.320 didn't really make anything of it. But secretly I was 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.360 thinking as early as that age, how do you get 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:58.280 to do that? And then I got sidetracted with stand 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.400 up quite honestly, because I was also collecting stand up 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:06.760 comedians on television the way my friends collected baseball cards, 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.400 and you know, I was allowed to stay up and 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:14.560 watch Carson Or but the comedians absolutely captivated me. And 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.079 then my parents would bring home comedy albums and I 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:21.520 would watch them laugh uncontrollably to the point of discomfort. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:27.120 On my party, it was as if they were crying uncontrollable. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.400 That's how awkward and out of character was to see 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:35.640 them laugh. And then that certainly laid the groundwork for 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:37.520 I'm going to learn how to do this? 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.200 So was it acting that called to you first? And 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.840 comedy just happened to be the road in? But your 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:44.079 your eye was stand. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.559 Up hijacked it, really stand up high hijacked it. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:46.920 Yeah, I. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.160 And then they sort of lived together when I started 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.040 maybe doing a couple of plays in school high school. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:10:00.680 But yeah, that I was horrible in class in school. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.400 So the idea of when others would say you should 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.920 go to an acting school, it sounded horrible to me. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.280 If someone had maybe surrounded me as your friends did 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.640 from the theater world and so join us, that would 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:15.440 have changed the course of things. But it didn't. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:21.520 So you've never formally studied right acting, No. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.400 No, just just at the feet of the greats. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.319 In front of the observation experience. 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.600 And so how do you find yourself into impersonation if 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.280 all the comedy things to do, that's like, not only 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.240 you have to be funny and figure out jokes, but 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.240 I also have to kind of commit to being this 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.040 person and be accurate enough and close enough that the 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:40.880 audience gets it without being the comedians. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:42.840 The old guys we used to always come out. 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.959 And say, oh look, it's Jimmy Stewart. It's like announcing 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.360 who they are. How did that's a weird thing to 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.319 glom onto and say, I think I can do that. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.120 Well, Jason will tell you that it's just a you 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.640 have a freak gear for it and a desire to 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.160 pursue it, or you don't. Every child learns to speak 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.720 from mimicking the parents or sounds around them, right, and 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.079 some of us that that mimicking just doesn't go away, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:11.040 doesn't stop. So yeah, I would make my friends laugh 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:15.400 in junior high into high school by impersonating whoever was 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.880 interesting on the scene in TV or movies, and based 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.040 on their laughter, I started to think, Oh, I guess 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.840 I can do this, you know. I eventually would almost 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:31.120 Penn and Teller break down the illusion in my standardback 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:35.480 about doing impersonations and how it's a parlor trick. If 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.120 I can think of someone you like and I can 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.680 recreate them in front of you, I will basically steal 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:44.960 the affection you have for the actual person. If I 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:46.960 thought you liked Peter Falk as much as I did, 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.880 and I said, oh geez, I'm sorry. I don't mean 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.240 to be a pitched Can I ask you one question, 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.600 why did you get those shoes? My wife, she's crazy 0:11:54.600 --> 0:12:00.560 about shoes. Her name is Amelda. So the feel there 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.200 is I promise you, if you didn't know who Peter 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.040 Falk was, or you didn't love Peter Falk, what I 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.600 just did would would be maybe funny in a cartoony 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.720 kind of way, but it wouldn't have any So once 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.680 I tapped into that, it never made sense to me 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.480 to say, you know what, if Jimmy Stewart were a 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.200 busboy at might go something like this. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:22.120 He was more. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:22.760 He was. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:30.400 Even though my dear friend who I started out with, well, 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.760 I was about to say I started out in San 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.280 Francisco's stand up with Dana Carvey in the late seventies, 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.840 and he actually did the funniest bit ever, which was 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.559 Jimmy Stewart as a waiter. I don't know if you 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:45.760 ever did it in any of his specialist but yeah, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.839 he just a very impatient waiter as Jimmy Stewart. I 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.480 don't want to bastardize it, but it was something like that. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.480 I just I told you the Specials twenty minutes ago. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:56.880 What do you mean You're not right? 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:57.840 Yeah? 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:06.840 I mean I'm not going to make this all about 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.640 the impressions. But do you do you have a methodology 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.679 for getting one of those things or do you just 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.559 you either have it or you hear it enough and 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:14.480 you've got it. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.400 Or they're in my wheelhouse? 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:16.920 Are they are? 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.600 They're not there, you know. Dana and I would always say, 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.080 we got our Johnny Carson from Rich Little, we got 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.120 our Kirk Douglas from Frank Gorshen. You know, there's someone 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:29.120 had to break the code, or you break the code yourself, 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.040 the way Dana was forced to. Once he was on 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.680 SNL one week. We were talking on the phone on 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.320 a Tuesday and I said, who they got you doing 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.440 this week? And he said, it looks like they're gonna 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.000 want me to do Ross Perot And at that point 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.040 Ross had just appeared on Larry King I think, just once, 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.559 and we both sort of started playing on the phone 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.520 call with the idea of what is a Ross Pro impression, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.640 And by the end of it, we both had a 0:13:55.720 --> 0:14:00.280 Ross Pro impression, just pat and I said him, well, 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.760 wait a second, this sucks because come Saturday, you're gonna 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:09.120 become famous for doing Ross and I just nailed Ross 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:13.079 Pro and no one will ever care so his data's 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.640 bit on Ross with his little catch thing or the 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.120 key that opens the lock was can I finish Larry? 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.840 Larry canna finish can Ah Finnick? Because Larry can't be 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:27.520 interrupting it? And my thing was Ross pro had an 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.760 analogy for everything, and never did they make sense. The economy, 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.640 you see, it's like peanut butter. If you feed it 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.600 to a horse and he chews on it, it'll look 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:43.640 like he's talking. So so yeah, there's no I guess 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.880 sometimes if you put your mind to it and they're 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:49.280 in your wheelhouse, you can learn them. There's been many 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:50.560 that I could never learn. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:51.200 Well. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:56.000 I you know, I never ever wanted to be a comedian. 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.240 But I was in college having not really focused much 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.560 on comedy, and I had a professor who you know, 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.000 to the to the outhouse and said, look, dude, you're 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.360 you're you're five foot five, you're thirty pounds overweight, and 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.200 you're already starting to lose your hair. You may want 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.800 to think about some comedy. And so I started doing. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.120 I got very serious, and I had all the comedy 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.440 albums that you had as a kid, but I wasn't 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.480 I wasn't singing along with them until I started then 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.400 in college going okay, why is what he allen? 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:30.320 Funny? 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.120 And that's when I started trying to learn the routines 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.240 and do them with him, to get the rhythms and 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.960 to get the sound and the musicality of it, you know. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.080 And and so there were a couple of people I 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.320 could fall into, but I wanted. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.440 He would even later admit to ripping off Bob Hope 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.080 with that one move that became a signature of his, 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:57.360 which was yes, yeah, yeah, he just clearly ripped off 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.520 I meant a much lodger Man. 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.320 Yeah, right, exactly. But I could not. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.280 I did not like, for instance, I feel like I 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.240 should be able to do Chris Walkin. I cannot get 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.000 Chris Walkin. I can't get him. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:16.840 Well, so I was dabbling a little bit. Chris McCrory, who, 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.640 after being a twenty six year old punk and winning 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:25.440 an Oscar for the usual suspects, which I insist he'd 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.160 leave it my mantle one week out of fifty two 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.400 for all the lines I improvised in his Academy World screenplay, 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.080 I mean literally every line that's quoted to me on 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:36.400 the street by fans. 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.520 Of course, it's something you came up with. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.480 Sure, the very first time my character speaks in the 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:45.520 beginning to Move, when we're all individually round up before 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.600 the police lineup. My character's in a garage. He's working 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.880 on a car. The garage door behind him opens up 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.400 and five cops pill in behind him, which he sees 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.520 through the side mirror he's working on behind. There are 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.680 no lines written, And I said in the on the day, 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:06.560 are you sure you're brought enough guys in the movie? 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.840 Leave the trophy on my mantle one week out of 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:16.080 the year for so so so. Anyways, So Chris, Chris 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.439 McCrory and I were he's now writing and directing the 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.600 mission possible, what he was doing quite well. But we 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:27.680 we were casting UH, a TV thing that we created 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.639 UH less than a year after he won that Academy Award. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.080 And while we were casting, in between when the cast 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:36.560 and director go out and get the next person to 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:41.640 bring him in, and we started improvising Christopher Walking and 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:48.280 Regis Philbin co hosting a morning talk show because because 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.920 why not, Because we were quite bored and needed to 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.679 make each other laugh. And then we were in on 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.280 the warners lot in the golf cart going to lunch 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.120 the way you do. And we see Jay Moore walking 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:01.919 and we just about run him over as we corner 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:06.120 him against a building and insist that he show us 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.720 his secret for doing Christopher Walkin because he was the 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.359 only one who had done it on television, which he 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:15.520 did the famous Christopher Walkin's Psychic Friends Network a sketch 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.840 on Saturday Night Live. And so he gave me the 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.399 key that day, which I can give you, which is 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:28.160 every single syllable word when doing Christopher Walkin becomes a 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:37.280 two syllable word, So the word no, no becomes now. It 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.280 begins there and then you just spread it out. 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.640 It's Jay. 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.240 I was doing a movie. I've directed two films that 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.720 nobody has seen. Jay was in the first one, and 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.479 he told me the story of that great time that 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.280 he was in the cast and Walkin. 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.399 Was the host the bear Suit, and well there's that. 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.720 But also they're all in Lauren's office and Chris has 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.760 his back to everybody as they're all pitching ideas for sketches, 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.159 and he has no reaction until he out of nowhere 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:14.040 goes dresses funny, oh that was the bearsuit, and everybody's gone, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:15.399 the bearsuit. 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:19.040 That story that exact same setup and delivery punch that 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.800 you just gave has also been attributed to him in 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:26.280 that moment saying bass suits are funny always make me laugh. 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.040 I don't know which is funny or which he actually said. 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:32.199 This is pretty good. 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.480 Yeah, So the Talking Walking podcast, as I was talking 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.160 about the reason I did it, what makes me laugh 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.720 about the Christopher Walk impression and why I still do 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.720 it even though it's become the most pedestrian impression do 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:49.280 is that What I find most interesting is the conversational 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:54.800 Christopher Walker, him talking about the minutia. So the you 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.560 know there, if you google Christopher Walker impersonation, sometimes over 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:01.680 thirty thousand search and answers will come up. That's how 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.520 pedestrian it's become. There are five pages on YouTube dedicated 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:10.159 to Asians doing Christopher Wall and they are hilarious. I 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.480 won't do any of them because I'd rather not be canceled, 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:13.359 but you do need. 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.119 To see them. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:22.080 So so yeah, the conversational just talking about anything and 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:27.440 nothing without having to push. For example, here's your opportunity 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.400 to ask Christopher Walker and anything. Let's let's realize this. 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:31.000 In real time. 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.399 Anything you'd ever want to ask, And it doesn't have 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.520 to be funny. It doesn't have to be at anything 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:37.920 you're actually curious about. 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.040 When exercising, what is the one exercise that could probably 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:42.000 heal the best result? 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:53.520 Damn good question, Peter Frankenstein never scared me. Marsupials do 0:20:54.880 --> 0:21:03.280 because they're fast. That's it doesn't really matter what you 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:10.639 That's where we're going, Chris. 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:13.440 Some people scared of elevators. 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:18.080 It's simple. I probably the quick and easy answer, of course, 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:21.640 is the up and down aspect. But what you really 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:26.040 need to think about is the buttons. I know where 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.320 I'm going, but I don't know which button. 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:31.280 Is. 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:33.920 That As much fun to do as it is, it's. 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.320