1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt, 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: and today we're discussing how to find the cheapest flights 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: with money pro Scott Kay's Joel. This is going to 4 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: be an awesome episode. It turns out that folks are 5 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: booking their airfare, booking their flights all wrong, and Scott's 6 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: here to drop some knowledge on us. You know, it 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: kind of hurts sometimes, Matt, to be told you're doing 8 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: something wrong, but ultimately it's gonna save you lots of money. 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: It's worth it, right, I'll take it. Take your medicine, Joel. 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: But real quick, before we get to that, I want 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: to let you know, Matt, I installed this new Chrome 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: extension called Facebook news feed Eradicator and we'll put a 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: link to it in the show notes. Sounds so hardcore, 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: it is news Eradicator. So I'm reading this book right 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: now by Cal Newport and we're hoping to have him 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: on as a money row in in a couple of months, 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: but he just came out with a book called Digital Minimalism, 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: and man, it's really kicking me in the pants. We've 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: talked before about how I gray scale my phone. We've 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: talked about putting your phone on airplane mode to get 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: more accomplished. And then this Chrome extension that I just installed, 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I feel like he's been a big boon to my 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: productivity because here's what it does when I go to 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: Facebook instead of seeing my news feed because me like 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: a quote from Buddha or something like that. So literally 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: you have you have no feed, And basically the essential 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: tools of Facebook that you can use are the notifications 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: and your groups over on your on the left, and 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: that's all that matters anyway, dog right. The worst part 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: about Facebook is the mindless feed scroll. And I feel 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: like that's what I got sucked into on occasion. And 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: so now even i'll honestly find myself, I'm learning quickly 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: how I would resort to the Facebook news feed when 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: I just had a couple of minutes extra and my 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: my fingers just literally across the keyboard type in Facebook, 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: and I go there, and now I'm like, oh wait, 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: there's nothing for me to do, and I quickly x 38 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: out and I'm done. So if anyone's looking to be 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: just like a little more productive and finds himself mindlessly 40 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: scrolling through their Facebook news feed, it's a really worthwhile thing. 41 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: To consider installing this Chrome extension the Facebook news feed eradicator, 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: and like I said, we'll post a link in the 43 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: show notes. What what do you think, Matt, is something 44 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: you would do? Yeah? I love that. That's that's awesome. 45 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Although I don't find myself getting lost as much in 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: just the Facebook news feed. I kind of, honestly, I 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,559 Speaker 1: find myself going to actual news outlets and just obsessively 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: sort of by default, like you said, when there's an 49 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: extra minute, going off to that website and just kind 50 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: of seeing what's going on in the world. That's just 51 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: how I operate. But um, while we're talking about Chroma 52 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: extension as though if you're looking to save some money, 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: have you ever heard of Honey I have. Yeah, Man, 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: that's one that Kate and I use a lot, And 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: if you haven't heard of it, it applies coupons that 56 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: already exists online to your shopping cart when you're checking out, 57 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: and specifically we use it a lot with Amazon and uh, 58 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: they have an option where it shows the price history 59 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: of a product, so you can kind of see where 60 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: it's been and so if it's currently at a good 61 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: price point, you know to buy. Sometimes it'll suggest buying 62 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: from different sellers as well. If Prime isn't that important 63 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: to you, you can save out of money by ordering 64 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: from this seller. Obviously you don't have the prime shipping benefits, 65 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: but sometimes that's not important. And you can also create 66 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: a drop list where you get emails on items that 67 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: you saved, and so then as the price goes down, 68 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: you get an email giving you the heads up, so 69 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: you know to buy. That's super cool. Yeah, and also 70 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: we use it seriously all that all the time. Well, 71 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: I've been using one for a lot of years called 72 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: Invisible Hand, and it kind of works in the background 73 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: and if I'm on an Amazon page, let's say there's 74 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: a little drop down that that occurs and it says 75 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: we found this item for five dollars cheaper at Walmart 76 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: dot com or at whatever. And so I love those extensions. Yeah, 77 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: it's great. But I'm gonna check out honey, because honestly, 78 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: I haven't used it, but I've heard good things. So 79 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: the beer that we're drinking on the show today, man 80 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: is Penguin, which is a blonde stout aged and bourbon barrels. 81 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: And this is my rhyan Geist brewery in Cincinnati. Again, 82 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: it turns out Mad. A couple of people at rhein 83 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: Geist are listeners, and Natalie sweetly reached out set an 84 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: email and said, can we please send you guys some beers? 85 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: So thank you Natalie and the folks at rhein Geist. 86 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: We're excited to have this beer. So we'll tell you 87 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: what we think about this blonde stout Asian bourbon barrels 88 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: and we've never had a blonde stout on the show before. 89 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I've ever had a blond 90 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: stout in my life. So I'll tell you what we 91 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: think about this beer at the end of the show. 92 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: And man, I didn't know a ton about Ryan guy, 93 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: so I looked them up this afternoon. Have you seen 94 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: their tasting room that they have in downtown Cincinnati. I've 95 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: seen pictures. It looks amazing. Dude. It is the coolest 96 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: space I think I've ever seen. It's definitely cooler than 97 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: any tasting room that I've been too. So I kind 98 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: of want to go up there just to drink beer 99 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: in their space. Road trip. Let's do it. High five, Yeah, Matt, 100 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: speaking of cool stuff, Well, Scott Kay's he's a really 101 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: cool dude and he's our money pro for today. And 102 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: also he's got one of the coolest jobs. He has 103 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: an email newsletter service called Scott Cheap Flights. He sends 104 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: out alerts to anybody who subscribed to the service about 105 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: cheap flights. I've been a subscriber for years and Scott 106 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: helping me find some great deals. And you know what, 107 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: even if I don't get to buy the deal, which 108 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: I usually don't like, I just love dreaming and seeing 109 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: how cheap things are and kind of comparing prices. So 110 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: it's a really cool service. Yeah, what's cool about Scott's 111 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: Cheap Flights is this is something we've recommended of four 112 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: We've talked about his website in previous episodes, and to 113 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: now actually have him on as a money pro is 114 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: super cool. I think that's that's awesome man. And the 115 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: way it started a little bit of his back story 116 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: is that in Scott he scored a round trip ticket 117 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: to Milan, Italy for a hundred and thirty bucks, which 118 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: is an awesome deal. He wasn't even planning a trip 119 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: to Italy, but he had to take advantage of such 120 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: a great deal. And then when he got back, his 121 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: friends were asking him, you know, they were saying, hey, dude, 122 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: let us know next time you see an awesome deal 123 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: like that. And those emails like that was the start 124 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: of Scott's Cheap Flights, the birth of something great. It's awesome. 125 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: But now he they've got over one point six million 126 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: members subscribed and some personal nerdy travel stats on him. 127 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: He's flown around the Earth fifteen times since and he's 128 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: got over thirty eight different stamps in his passport. That's 129 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: like the opposite of me, because I travel very I 130 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: travel very little. Scott Kay's not a home body. And 131 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: I think the reason that most people don't travel Matt 132 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: is because it's prohibitively expensive. And travel can be expensive, 133 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: especially if you don't know how to book it well. 134 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: But for most people, they do have a wanderlust. They 135 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: want to travel, they want to get out there and 136 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: explore the world a little bit more. And it turns 137 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: out the traveling is cheaper than ever, but only for 138 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: people who know how to book travel well, who know 139 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: how to score to the cheap flights. So everyone wants 140 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: that deal, but often we suck at finding the deal. 141 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: That's just because we haven't been trained to do it. 142 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: But that changes today. So just a reminder that every 143 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: money Pro episode we bring on our money Pro, they 144 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: get five minutes of time to give us their distilled 145 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: wisdom on one topic, and today Scott's gonna tell us 146 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: how to find the cheapest flights. So let's hear Scott's 147 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: five minutes of money Pro right now. Hey guys, today 148 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm super excited to talk to you about how to 149 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: score cheap flights. This is what I've devoted my career too, 150 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: and so I'm excited to dig right in with you all. So, 151 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: the very first tip that I recommend to folks when 152 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: they're thinking about how to score cheap flights is to 153 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: actually flip their flights search order. So let me giving 154 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: an example. The way that most people tend to search 155 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: for flights is a three step process. Step one, they 156 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: pick where they want to go, Step two, they pick 157 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: what dates do they want to go there, And only 158 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: on step three do they see what is the airfare 159 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: for that particular route and date. And by setting price 160 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: as the third order priority, it's not terribly surprising that 161 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: you end up getting some pretty expensive flights doing it 162 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: with that approach. So what I recommend to folks is 163 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: actually flipping that order and going with the strategy like this. First, 164 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: see what cheap flights are out there. You know, there's 165 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: a dozens of tools Google Flights, Momondo, Kayak Explorer. See 166 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: where the cheap flights are to various places around the world. 167 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: Step two, decide which of those cheap destinations appeal to you. 168 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Where do you actually want to go among Maybe there's 169 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: four undred dollar flights to Rome, Barcelona, and Paris. Yeah, Rome, 170 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: I'd love to go fourner bucks. And then see, okay, 171 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: are there dates for that fourner dollar affair to Rome 172 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: that work with your schedule? Yeah, that like May eight 173 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: to fifteen, I could get that off work, I could go. 174 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: And by setting price as the first order concern right 175 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: in the third order concern, you're much much more likely 176 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: to get an actual, really cheap flight. And especially if 177 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: you're someone like myself who frankly there's nowhere in the 178 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: world that I wouldn't like to go see, you end 179 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: up being able to see many more places because you're 180 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: only spending four hundred dollars on a flight to Europe 181 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: as opposed to eight or nine hundred bucks or even 182 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: a thousand or more. So this kind of leads me 183 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: into step two here which is to try to cross 184 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: the ocean as cheaply as possible. Let me give you 185 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: an example. Let's say you live in Atlanta and you 186 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: really want to go to the Greek Islands. You know, 187 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: you've had your heart set on Santorini. So you go 188 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: to Google flights and you see what is there faur 189 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: cost to get from Atlanta to Santorini. I just looked. 190 00:08:54,280 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: It's yikes, that is a lot of money. But that's 191 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: only if you're actually searching it in one single itinerary. 192 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: You know, a couple of weeks ago, we found and 193 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: sent out a deal from Atlanta to Athens for five 194 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: hundred and forty three dollars round trip. And once you're 195 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: in Athens, you can get a flight or a cruise 196 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: a boat over to Santorini for like fifty bucks round trip. 197 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: So by splitting it into two itineraries, it would only 198 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: cost like five hundred and ninety three dollars six hundred 199 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: bucks give your take, as opposed to the original hundred, 200 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: so you'd save almost two thousand dollars. In this case, 201 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: you can split it up both on the destination side, 202 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: like they're you know, flying to Athens and then going 203 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: to Santorini, but you can also split it up on 204 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: the origin side. The best deal that I've ever personally 205 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: gotten in my life was NonStop from New York City 206 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: to Milan for a hundred and thirty dollars round trip. 207 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: I could not believe when I saw that fair. My 208 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: heart still race is talking about it. But at the time, 209 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: I didn't actually live in in New York. I was 210 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: living down in d C. And if I had tried 211 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: to get a flight from d SEE to Milan, it 212 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: would have been like eight hundred fifty dollars. But I knew, 213 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, look, I can take a bus up to 214 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: New York, hang out with some friends for a couple 215 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: of days, and then fly over to Milan. Pair the 216 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: twenty dollar bus fair with the hundred thirty dollar flight 217 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: hundred fifty dollars total versus eight hundred fifty. You know, 218 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: it's a no brainer. So really, kind of being flexible 219 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: and trying to cross the ocean as cheaply as possible 220 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: and then getting onto your ultimate destination is a really 221 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: smart strategy for getting cheap flights. So we've got about 222 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: a minute left, let's lightening round a couple of these 223 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: cheapest times to fly. Cheapest days of the week gonna 224 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: be Tuesday, Wednesday, and Saturday. Cheapest times of the year 225 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: going to generally be January through May and September through November. 226 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: When should you book your flights? I recommend for domestic 227 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: flights booking at least a month ahead of time, and 228 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: for international flights at least two months ahead of time. 229 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: If you're looking to travel kind of peak summer, Christmas, 230 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: New Year's maybe trying to add a couple of months 231 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: to those recommendations. Do not wait for last minute flights. 232 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: I cannot stress that enough. Thirty years ago, it was 233 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: the case that the airlines would cut the fair right 234 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: before they close the door for that flight because they 235 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: wanted to fill all the seats. Nowadays, they actually jack 236 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: up the price in the last week or two because 237 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: they know it's business travelers who will pay any price 238 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: in order to get that seat. It's business travelers who 239 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: are booking those last minute flights. Two other things. One, 240 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: should you clear your cookies. Here's the truth, It doesn't matter. 241 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: Do it if it will make you happy, but it 242 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: really doesn't make any difference. The best search engine, my 243 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: personal favorite is Google Flights But another kind of hidden 244 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: secret here is that it actually really doesn't matter. They 245 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: will basically all draw on the same distribution system, and 246 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: so you'll get basically the same results anywhere. One small exception, 247 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: search Southwest dot com separately, Southwest Airlines does not show 248 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: up on any of the flight search engines. Thanks you all, 249 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: dang man. Scott brought the knowledge, he brought the heat. 250 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: That was some amazing stuff from our money pro uh 251 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: and he mentioned Southwest, which is one of our favor its. Yes, 252 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: Southwest has no check bag fees and no ticket change fees. Man, 253 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: that's a rarity. Now. So we're gonna go ahead and 254 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: take a quick break, but right after that we're gonna 255 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: unpack all that Scott, how to say? All right, Mac? 256 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Quite a while back in episode number four, we talked 257 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: about traveling with purpose on the cheap, and one thing 258 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: that we did talk about was saving money off flights, 259 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: and we mentioned Scott's website, Scott's Chief Flights, but we 260 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to delve into all the ways 261 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: that you can save money by booking a flight. And 262 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: the first thing that's got mentioned, which is by far 263 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: the most important thing you need to think about, when 264 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: you're looking to score a cheap flight is to flip 265 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: your search order and making price. As Scott said, the 266 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: first order of concern is the most important thing you 267 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: can do to save money. Most people do the exact opposite. 268 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: They're like, I've got these dates and I want to 269 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: go to this destination, and can I find a good 270 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: fair Well no, no, usually you can't because you're doing 271 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: it in the wrong order. But if you are looking 272 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: to travel cheaply, you'll flip the script and you'll look 273 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: for a cheap destination and trying to find something that 274 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: fits those dates. And that's the main way that you're 275 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna be able to save money when booking flights. That's Rachel. 276 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: You know, you have to make money the priority. If 277 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: you're looking to save money, then make that sort of 278 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: like your very first filter when you are searching for flights. 279 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: And honestly, this is just not a pitch for Scott's 280 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: Cheap Flights. We brought him on for a reason. Yeah, 281 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: exactly what he does. We like what he's got to say. Yeah, 282 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: like his emails are the perfect way to help you 283 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: to decide where to go, because you are only going 284 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: to be looking at the cheap fares, the cheap flights 285 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: that are out there, and so you want to book 286 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: based on finding a deal, not just with a sort 287 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: of preconceived idea of where you want to go. Yeah. 288 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: So let's say, for instance, you're looking to book a honeymoon, right, 289 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: you say I want to go to Hawaii. Well, you 290 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: know what, you might find a good deal to Hawaii. 291 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: But if you're less specific on your destination and you 292 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: say I just want to find some sort of tropical destination, 293 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: a great beach somewhere warm, right, yeah, to to go 294 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: on my honeymoon. Well, if you're looking at it through 295 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: that lens and you're les specific with your destination, there's 296 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: a good chance you're opening yourself up to a lot 297 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: more potential deals. You might find a great deal to Thailand, 298 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: let's say, or Costa Rica, who knows. But being open 299 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: and making price the first order of concern as opposed 300 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: to the destination, that's what's going to save you big money. Yell, 301 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: And honestly, this just gets me pumped to try to 302 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: do this more often, And honestly, it's a more adventurous 303 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: way to find the deal and then to figure out 304 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: what you want to do. There. That fits with my 305 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: sort of personal mission statement. We talked about this recently, 306 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: like adventure, I kind of I'm trying to find ways 307 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: to incorporate that more into my life. I tend to 308 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: be a rigid type a. Everything has to be lined 309 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: up and perfect and organized. But man, what a way 310 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: to interject some adventure in some sort of unpredictability while 311 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: also saving a ton of money. Is that why you 312 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: join that fight club, Matt, just looking for a little adventure? 313 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: You're not talk about that? Oh, that's right, crap, broke 314 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: the first rule. Doing it this way, it kind of 315 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: expands your horizons about where you'd like to travel. It 316 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: kind of opens up the whole world to you, as 317 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: opposed to having this one pigeonhole destination that you really 318 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: want to go to the world is your oyster? Booking travel? 319 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: Where where prices? The first order concern, and my favorite 320 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: part about booking travel like this is that ultimately you're 321 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: gonna go see a whole lot more of the world 322 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: because if every trip that you book is less than 323 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: half the price of what it would have cost you 324 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: had you picked your destination first, that sounds like twice 325 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: as many flights. Joel twice as much travel, right, So 326 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: I love that. I think that's a great way to 327 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: not only see more of the world because you're paying less, 328 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: but also get you out there to go see more 329 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: places that you wouldn't have even considered. And I love it. Yeah, exactly, 330 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: like you said, that's an adventurous way to travel. Yeah, 331 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: and Juel, you know, at the end of the day, 332 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: it's about seeing more places. Because if you love to 333 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: travel and you want to go more places, it probably 334 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: doesn't quite matter as much the order to which you 335 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: visit these cities like Paris, right, Like, that's the quintessential 336 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: sort of city that ever wants to you know, they 337 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: want to make it to Paris. Well, chances are there's romantic. 338 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: It is romantic, but you know what, there's going to 339 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: be a deal to Paris very soon, and just don't 340 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: feel like you have to go right this one time. 341 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: If you're more flexible, you're gonna be able to travel 342 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: much more. Personal example of for Emily and I, so 343 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: we ended up going to Norway. So my families from Norway. 344 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: My grandpa came over to the United States when he 345 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: was five from Norway, and so I've always wanted to 346 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: go but for the longest time, flying to Norway was 347 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: prohibitively expensive. It was usually around a thousand dollars eleven 348 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: hund bucks a ticket. I thought about at different times 349 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: just kind of forcing it and making it happen and 350 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: paying the bounty and just going to Norway when it 351 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: was really expensive. But I'm glad I held off because 352 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: eventually a couple of discount airlines lunch service from the 353 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: United States, and they were flying to Scandinavia as well 354 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: as other parts of Europe. But Scandinavian flights just went 355 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: on sale big time, and so Emily and I were 356 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: able to go to Norway. I want to say we 357 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: paid literally like five and five dollars a piece something 358 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, round trip to Oslo. And I'm just 359 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: so glad that we waited, because Norway is kind of 360 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: an expensive country already, food prices, lodging, all that kind 361 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: of stuff. Man, it all adds up, and so it 362 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: would have just been a prohibitively expensive trip if we 363 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: had paid full price for airfare. But following Scott's method, 364 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: we were able to get really inexpensive tickets and just 365 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: really enjoy our trip and kind of spend a little 366 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: more on some of the travel throughout the country to 367 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: make our trip really special. And so yeah, it's not 368 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: like you're not going to get to go to that destination. 369 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: A deal will pop up at some point, but just wait, 370 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: just make sure you're pouncing when it's cheap. Be patient, Joel. 371 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: I gotta learn that sometimes. And Scott's next key point 372 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: that he mentioned was to try and cross the ocean 373 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 1: as cheaply as possible. So we're talking life raft right, 374 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: battle boat, and honestly that could and most likely will 375 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: mean flying into a different destination. Luckily, though, getting around 376 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: Europe is really cheap and pretty easy as well. You know, 377 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: you can fly into Amsterdam if you're trying to get 378 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: to Paris or even vice versa. You just want to 379 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: make sure that you are considering those nearby destinations because 380 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: that will likely save you tons of money. Yeah, unlike 381 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: our country, which is enormous, right, so it's a little 382 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: bit harder to train travel. You know, maybe you can 383 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: in the Northeast particularly, but but really across most of 384 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: America can't really take a train. You gotta hop in 385 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: a car, right or an airplane. You can't take Martha 386 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: to and y see, I think most listeners do on 387 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: Marta is that's our local rapid transit, and I put 388 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: rapid rapid, it's somewhat rapid. Trains aren't necessarily the way 389 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: to go in the US. Yeah, not here. But in 390 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: Europe trains actually are efficient that they work really well, 391 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: at least when the workers are on strike, which has 392 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: happened a few times while I've been in Europe. But 393 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: train travel is an easy and cheap way to get 394 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: from let's say Amsterdam to Feris Matt, like you mentioned, 395 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: which means that if an airfare into Paris is a 396 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars and air fare into Amsterdam is well, guess 397 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: what flying Amsterdam, take the hour and a half train 398 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: ride to Paris for thirty bucks. Is it that long? 399 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: It's only hour and a half. Yeah, I think it's 400 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: about an hour and a half. Nice, you can see 401 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: a little countryside. Those train rides are actually I mean, 402 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: I love them. I think they're really fun. So there's 403 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: so much of Europe that you do get to enjoy 404 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: and see by train that it's just part of the 405 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: trip as well, right, And I think that's one of 406 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: the advantages is just instead of high tailing it to 407 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: sort of like your real destination city considered like the 408 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: scenic route. Like Kate and I we love going on 409 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: road trips and so to go somewhere and then to 410 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: have to have to you know, or get to rent 411 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: a car or take a train and see so much 412 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: of say a countryside and making stops along the way 413 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: and stopping at farms, like this is the stuff that 414 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: we've done before, and we have found so much enjoyment 415 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: out of doing that. Yeah, even sometimes on these train 416 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: rides you can take a quick pit stop in a 417 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: town along the way, check it out. Like I'm pretty 418 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: sure if I remember correctly, Bruges is in between Amsterdam 419 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: and Paris, and I think, and don't quote me on this, 420 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, but I think you could actually hop off, 421 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: hang out and Bruge for a couple of hours, hop 422 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: back on the train, not paying the extra, and then 423 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: go the rest of the the way into Paris. Why not, 424 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: there's just like a free stopover and Bruges to check 425 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: out some cool stuff and then keep going. So maybe 426 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: on Google Maps, check out and see what cities are 427 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: nearby the city that you're looking to go to, and 428 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: do air fare searches to those cities as well, and 429 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: then make sure that there's efficient train travel from one 430 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: city to another. That's just an awesome way to to 431 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: save money on your trip. You know, the only reason 432 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: people go to Bruges because of In Bruges the movie, right, 433 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: have you seen the movie? Underrated movie? Yeah, it is 434 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: really good. It's a great movie. But I think half 435 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: of the Americans that actually do visit Bruge it's because 436 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: of in Bruges. Honestly, that's probably half the reason I went. 437 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: But it was well worth it. So Joel, I didn't 438 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: go to Bruge, but in college, some friends and I 439 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: did something very similar, you know, where we had an 440 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: alternate destination. We knew very little when it came to 441 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: actually traveling for cheap, but we didn't know that we 442 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: wanted to go to a bunch of cities in Italy, 443 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: and we had less interest in going to Milan. It's 444 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: funny that Scott mentioned Milan because it must be a hub. Well, 445 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: it turns out that the best plane ticket prices Where's 446 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: and Milan, so that's where we ended up flying into 447 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: and we did take the train from there and all 448 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: the destinations that we truly didn't want to go visit 449 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: and we got to see some cool stuff in Milan 450 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: as well. But you know, like the real reason we 451 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: flew into Milan was because that's where the deal was. Man. Yeah, 452 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: So at this point, Matt, we've talked about flying into 453 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: a different destination that's nearby the destination that you actually 454 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: want to go to, maybe two for the price of one, 455 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: or at least just way cheaper to skid out all 456 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: out of that place that you fly into and to 457 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: go visit another town or city. But another thing you 458 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: can consider is departing from a different city on the 459 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: front end of your trip. So, like Scott mentioned, that's 460 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: what he did to get that sweet Milan deal. He 461 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: took a bus from d C up to New York 462 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: and stay with friends, and then flew out of New 463 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: York City. Because oftentimes a lot of the best international 464 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: flight deals originate from Boston, New York, Chicago. Associally, you're 465 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: near Milwaukee and driving to Chicago might score you a 466 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: much better deal on an international plane ticket, or if 467 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: you're in d C, taking that bus up to Boston. 468 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: Just searching from other departure cities where you can stay 469 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: with a friend or easily drive your car, or there's 470 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: public transportation to get you to that airport. That's something 471 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: you strongly want to consider because it could be another 472 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: factor in saving you hundreds and hundreds of dollars on 473 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: your overall trip cost. Do keep in mind you want 474 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: to make sure you're doing it cheaply though, right, So, 475 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: otherwise it's not worth the additional hassle. You're not saving 476 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: money if you're driving to a different city and paying 477 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: for parking at the airport for seven days. The examples 478 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: you gave like taking the bus or a train, I 479 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: know you've taken Megabus, which is that even still around anymore? Megabus? 480 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: Megabus is totally still was it? Yeah, okay, it's quickly 481 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: I'll just mention what Megabus is. Megabus is a super 482 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: cheap bus service, and that's honestly one of the best 483 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: ways probably to consider getting from one town to another. 484 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: And I've taken it to go to Memphis from Atlanta. 485 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: I've taken it to go to New Orleans from Atlanta, 486 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: and tickets start at a dollar and if you book 487 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: really far in advance, you can score those dollar seats, 488 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: get those first few seats, right Yeah, So, so I would, 489 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: especially for domestic travel consider taking megabus. There have been 490 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: some horror stories written up about megabus, like tires busting 491 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: or like the one that come on fire exactly, some 492 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: bad customer service. Yeah, terrible publicity unfortunately. But I would 493 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: say for the majority of the bus rides, all the 494 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: ones I've been on and my mother in law takes 495 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: it to come sometimes like it's been completely worth the 496 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: price savings and and so it's a yeah, comfortable way 497 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: to get from one place to another. Yeah, megabus, check 498 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, So if you're gonna change your origin 499 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: city or the city that you're departing from, just keep 500 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: that in mind. And then again, the example Scott gave 501 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: was amazing was perfect going to visit friends. You know, 502 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: I personally haven't done that before, like going to visit 503 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: friends and kicking around for an extra day. But what 504 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: a fun way. It's a to spend some more time 505 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: in a city that you're less familiar with, or to 506 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: revisit friends, and then you get to hang out, maybe 507 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: have some beers, and then the next morning, you know, 508 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: you hop on your flight and your also vacation for 509 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: a week or ten days. I love that I've actually 510 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: done that for a domestic trip. I ended up driving 511 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: to Birmingham from Atlanta for a flight to the West Coast. 512 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: I found just a sweet deal out of Birmingham, stayed 513 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: with a buddy, I left my car at his house. 514 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: He drove me to the airport that morning, and you know, 515 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: saved a couple hundred bucks on my West Coast Plaine 516 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: fair that was years and years ago. But it's just 517 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: another way for you to consider. It's a little bit 518 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: of outside of the box thinking in order to find 519 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: like a super cheap fair so you can take an 520 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: awesome trip that's just not prohibitably expensive. That makes me 521 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: think of the Atlanta airport. So you and I, we 522 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: both live maybe about fifteen minutes. It's like a fifteen 523 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: minute drive to get to the airport. And how many 524 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: times do you think you've taken folks or picked up 525 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: friends from the airport? You know, a bunch a lot. 526 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: I know I've taken you, and Emily, I've I've taken 527 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: other friends. I have friends who live in the northern 528 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: suburbs and they will drive down, park their car at 529 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: my house at five am just to catch their flight 530 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: and I'll drive him down. Don't have any problems with it. Exactly. 531 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: I guess that's just one of the perks you have 532 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: when you've got a friend that only lives about fifteen 533 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: minutes from the airport. All right, Matt, There's so much 534 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: more to cover when it comes to finding the cheapest 535 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: possible flights, and we'll get to that right after the break, 536 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: all right, Joel, And now let's go ahead and get 537 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: to What'scott called the lightning round, which is true. He 538 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: kind of burned through those last few points pretty quick. 539 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: What Scott think he is like a game show host. 540 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: But what he talked about though was when and how 541 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: to book, and he specifically said how you want to 542 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: travel like you, your travel dates to be typically on 543 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: a Tuesday, Wednesday, and a Saturday. Those are gonna give 544 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: you the best deals. And that's mostly Matt, because that's 545 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: when business travelers aren't traveling. So that's when normal every 546 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: day josh mos like you and me and our listeners, 547 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: that's when we're gonna get the best deals, that's right, man. 548 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: And as far as the months go, he mentioned how 549 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: January through May are gonna be your best bets. In 550 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: September through November or the cheapest months as well, and 551 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: there's obvious reasons for that as well. Right, everyone's traveling 552 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: during the summer, and the summer months in June, July, 553 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: and August December as well, all those are kind of 554 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: like the crazy season, and you might think too to yourself, Okay, well, 555 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: those are still a lot of dates that I can't fly, right, 556 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of the tips that he 557 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: mentioned here at the end, anybody can pretty much do. 558 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't take a ton of flexibility, and that's 559 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: true even for this section as well. Even though there 560 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: are certain days that it's more affordable to fly, that's 561 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: still three out of seven days that he mentioned. That's 562 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: almost half of the week. And then the months he 563 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: mentioned eight out of twelve months, that's not too difficult 564 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: to try to do, Like, those are the months that 565 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: you know you'll be able to get a deal. I 566 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: still think that's uh, pretty doable for a lot of people, 567 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: all right. And so how far in advance should you book? Well, 568 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: if you're looking for a domestic airfair, Scott said roughly 569 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: one month ahead, which I found to be true in 570 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: in search results for flights for me. Although I'll give 571 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: this one caveat it doesn't hurt to look even further 572 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: in advance, when you get to be less than a 573 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: month away from your travel date, prices are gonna start 574 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: to escalate pretty quickly, So you don't want to wait 575 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: longer and longer hoping that prices are going to go 576 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: down as you get closer to your travel date. If 577 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: you're in a compressed less than a mon timeframe, it 578 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: doesn't hurt to start looking four, five, six months in advance. 579 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: Often you're gonna get a good deal then. But typically 580 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: the best prices on domestic airfare are going to be 581 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: roughly in that month to a month and a half 582 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: ahead of your departure date. And for international flights he mentioned, 583 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and double that, so like you're looking at 584 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: at least two months in advance. But like you said, 585 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: especially for international, you can find some really great deals 586 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: if you're looking pretty far in advance. I know that 587 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: with you and your work traveling and whatnot, Like you 588 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: y'all have booked trips really far in advance, like almost 589 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: a year, right, How far in advance do you remember 590 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: booking a trip where you still got an amazing deal? Yeah, 591 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: I feel like honestly eight nine months sometimes ahead of 592 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: time we've gotten amazing deals like four hundred dollars to 593 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: Ireland or or six hundred dollars to Thailand follars Ireland. 594 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: I was there for that one. Yeah, we did that too, right, 595 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: And I'm going in April, so humble brag. So yeah, 596 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: two months ahead of time is a great time to 597 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: book your international travel. But honestly, the more flexible you 598 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: can be and the further ahead that you can look 599 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: in that six, seven, eight month time frame, if price 600 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: is your number one in order of concern, you're probably 601 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: gonna find some really good deals looking that far in 602 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: advance too. Yeah, and Jel you just touched on this briefly, 603 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: but sort of those last minute flights and how those 604 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: are specifically reserved for business travelers and how the prices 605 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: just skyrocket because, like Scott said, they don't have a 606 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: choice to not travel for work, and in the business 607 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: Ford or Coca Cola, whoever, like, they're gonna pay it 608 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: and it doesn't really matter. And so if you book 609 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: last minute like that, yeah, you're gonna end up paying 610 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: out the nose. But that's just what businesses are typically 611 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: willing to spend. One thing I wanted to bring up 612 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: that Scott didn't mention Matt Is that booking as a 613 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: group can actually often hurt you if you are contacting 614 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: an airline or a travel agent to book a group 615 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: booking of like a bunch of people. Let's say you're 616 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 1: booking ten people. Well, you're gonna pay more booking as 617 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: a group than you are booking individually through a website 618 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: like Google flights. And we'll talk about that more in 619 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: a second. So when you're booking a large group, maybe 620 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: get two computers out or three computers out, depending on 621 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: how many people you're booking. Book as individuals through a 622 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: site like Google flights or Momondo or whatever it is. 623 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: Airlines just love to jack at fairs if you are 624 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: a quote unquote group. So I can totally see that. Yeah, 625 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: So it just makes sense to book separately. Don't tell 626 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: them that you're a special group, right, and you're going 627 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: to qualify for those cheapest individual fairs that are out there, 628 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: all right. But when it comes to the actual search 629 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: engine that you use in order to book flights, I 630 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: like what he said, Man, they're all pretty much equal. 631 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: His preference is Google Flights, and from all the different 632 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: ones I've used, that's my preference to I'd like using 633 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: Google Flights. It just feels like it's the easiest one 634 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: to use, and it's just easier to kind of look 635 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: on the map and then plus or minus certain days 636 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: in order to to hone in on that cheapest fair. 637 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: So I like using Google Flights. But there are other 638 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: great taxes as well. So if you've got one that 639 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: you currently use that you like to search for flights, 640 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: like Kayak or Momando, whatever it is, don't hesitate to 641 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: use that side either. Well. Yeah, specifically, man, I'm a 642 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: huge fan of Frontier because they've got that special deals 643 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: page and I was looking on there today and I 644 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: know that right now you can get from Atlanta to Austin, 645 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: Texas forty four bucks. Well, there we go. That's the 646 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: heck of a deal. Just know, if you book on 647 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: a cheaper airline like Frontier Spirit one of those guys, 648 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna pay for everything else on top of that ticket. 649 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: You just make sure that you're not bringing any bags 650 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: and you are comfortable wearing those clothes all weekend. We're 651 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: like three layer clothes on the flight and then you 652 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: can peel them off as you go. But yeah, that's 653 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: one thing you're gonna pay for a coke, you're gonna 654 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: pay for the water. You're gonna pay for a check bag. 655 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna pay for a bag that you bring on 656 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: the airplane too. But you can't beat a deal from 657 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: Austin to Tampa for twenty bucks that was also on 658 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: their twenty's it's a Tampa and that nuts. Yeah, that's great. 659 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: But I do also like Google Flights man, Like that 660 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: map is so key, Like you can enter your your 661 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: city that you're flying out of, and then you got 662 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: the map view you zoom out, click around, and it 663 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: shows all the different airfares. It's just a fun way 664 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: to explore not only your country but even the world. 665 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: Like you can kind of scroll over and look at 666 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: Europe and be like, hm, where can I fly to? 667 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, Madrid, four d bucks. That's pretty good. 668 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: Like why not St. Petersburg sounds interesting? Like it's it's 669 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: so much more adventurous that way, And I feel like 670 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: it's turned the way we typically plan for a location 671 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: on its head, Like it really is what what Scott said, 672 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: which is it just flips it. Instead of looking at 673 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 1: where you gonna go when you want to go, look 674 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: at when you're gonna get the best price and base 675 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: your travel on that. But the one big elephant in 676 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: the room, the one big airline that doesn't put their 677 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: fares on Google Flights or any of these other search engines, 678 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: is Southwest, and so if Southwest does fly out of 679 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: your market, you're gonna want to make sure you go 680 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: directly to their website Southwest dot com. And since Southwest 681 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: is one of the discount airlines, they often have some 682 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: of the best prices, not to mention the fact that 683 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: they have some really good customer service, and they're also 684 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: one of the only airlines not to charge baggage fees 685 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: or change fees, and so there are a lot of 686 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: perks about flying Southwest. Southwest definitely lends itself to checking 687 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: a bag for free and then loading that check bag 688 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: up with local beer, bringing it back home and sharing 689 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: with your best bud. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, So I 690 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: used to never check a bag until I got super 691 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: into craft beer, and then I would carry on my 692 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: bag to a destination and then I would go to breweries, 693 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: buy some bottles, pack them up, check my bag, and 694 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: come home. And that's why I typically trying to fly 695 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: Southwest domestically if the airfare is one of the best 696 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: prices because I get that free check bag man, and 697 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: I get to bring beer back from wherever I go. 698 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: I can't beat that. All right, Joel, let's let's take 699 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: it back to the beer. Give me your thoughts. Yeah, 700 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: so we're drinking Rheineist barrel aged Penguin. It's a blonde 701 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: stout aged and bourbon barrels. Never had a blond stout before. Yeah, well, 702 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, the only blonde Stott ever had was maybe 703 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: ten years ago, and it was Guinness Blonde and it 704 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: did not taste like this. This is amazing. No comment 705 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: on Guinness or Guinness Blonde, but this beer was fantastic, man, 706 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: I would like The first thing I noticed about it 707 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: was that it had coffee notes, which is odd because 708 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: it's a blonde, so of course, like an I p A. 709 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: It looks like a sour or an I p A 710 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: in color pretty light. You're definitely not expecting coffee, right, No, yeah, 711 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: but more than anything, that's what I noticed on it was, 712 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, you taste the wood, you taste the barrel. 713 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: But then I was picking up on coffee notes, which 714 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: you just don't expect from a beer. That's that looks 715 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: this light and color. Yeah, it's honestly, it's a fascinating style. 716 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: It tastes completely different than a normal stout. It's kind 717 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: of lighter in your mouth. Yeah, I dig it. And 718 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: it has some really great oak presence at the same time. Yeah, 719 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: and it almost has like a little bit of zip, 720 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: like a little bit of tartness to it that, like 721 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: you said, lightness. Yeah, it's just drinking really well. I 722 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: love this beer. Yes, So thanks again to Natalie from 723 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: rhyan Geist for sending this beer out to us. Yeah, 724 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: thanks Ryan Geist. All right, Joel, let's kick it off 725 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: with some final thoughts. All right, Matt, First thing that 726 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: Scott mentioned the most important thing that you need to consider. 727 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: Forget everything you learned about booking travel. Quit looking at 728 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: destinations first, look at the price first. If you make 729 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: price the first order concern of travel, that's how you're 730 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: gonna find the cheapest deals. That's how you're gonna get 731 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: to visit more destinations. Ultimately, you're just gonna be more 732 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: well traveled if price is your first order concern. That's right, man. 733 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: Not only does Scott want you to not look at 734 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: your destination first, but he wants you to not look 735 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: at your calendar first as well, because you want to 736 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: have flexibility when it comes to dates, and so obviously 737 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: flexibility is key, But what if flexibility isn't key? Right? 738 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: I've got an example here, Kate and I had to 739 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: fly into France for a wedding that we were shooting, 740 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: and guess what, with weddings, there's not any flexibility when 741 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: it comes to when the wedding is going to go down, 742 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: and we or our client could have gotten stuck with 743 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: some pretty significant airfare. But we have the flexibility to 744 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: fly over a couple of weeks early when the airfare 745 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: was cheaper, Plus we got to travel and France for 746 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. But I guess I wanted to 747 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: acknowledge the fact that not everyone has that kind of flexibility. 748 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: A lot of trips are limited within a certain window 749 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: of specific dates, or you know, there is the destination 750 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: that isn't negotiable, like specifically for a wedding or if 751 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: you're going to go visit some family, and so if 752 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: you're locked into some of those constraints, make sure that 753 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: you follow Scott's other tips when it comes to booking 754 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: your airfare. Yeah, Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday. Travel and booking at 755 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: least a month in advance for domestic travel or two 756 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: months ahead for international travel. That's how you're going to 757 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: find the cheapest possible deals. Especially, you're gonna want to 758 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: pay more careful attention to those tips if you're locked 759 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: into a specific departure and destination and specific dates. All right, Joel, 760 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be it for this episode. We 761 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: want to thank everyone for listening, and a special things 762 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: to Scott Kais for coming on our show. We'll have 763 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: a link to his website, Scott's Cheap Flights up on 764 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: our show, notes on our website at how to money 765 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: dot com. All right, if you like this podcast, if 766 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: you found this episode helpful, we would love your thoughts 767 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: in review form at Apple Podcasts, and don't forget to 768 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: subscribe while you're there. And you know what, if you 769 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: think there are ways that we can improve this podcast, 770 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: we'd love to hear from you as well. Go to 771 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: how to Money dot com slash do Better and send 772 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: us your constructive criticism. We'd really appreciate it. 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