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Speaker 1: discretion is advised. The world's origion poet, Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: I would find incredibly disappointment. Oh yeah, I would be

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Speaker 1: very much against that. So let's say you're going to

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Speaker 1: write a strongly worded letter. Yeah, someone needs to be like,

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Speaker 1: take his helmet and be like get healthy, get I

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Speaker 1: take your shoelaces away exactly, so they can't just run

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Speaker 1: play action every play and then have it worked. No band,

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Speaker 1: white face mask. Someone said, red face masks on white

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Speaker 1: white space mask. Well, I thought you could choose. Thought

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Speaker 1: as a player, you got to choose what I remember. Um,

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Speaker 1: At times the page, some of the Patriots had red

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Speaker 1: face masks. Yes, old. I mean you can't have some

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Speaker 1: guys wearing one uniform and some guys wearing another one.

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Speaker 1: It has to be problem is our mascot is a human.

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Speaker 1: You know, and I get, and I get like those

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Speaker 1: guys in tricorn hats were probably tough mothers, you know.

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Speaker 1: They they survived Gettysburg and all that stuff, Like I

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Speaker 1: can't do that in the very large minority. It definitely

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Speaker 1: throws you off a little bit. In my mind, large minority,

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Speaker 1: this is Patriots Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and it's a victory weeky. Boy. That was much needed

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Speaker 1: and much earned. I think it was just an all

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Speaker 1: around great game for the Patriots. As we talked about

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Speaker 1: in the postgame show, lots of good lists. The bad

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Speaker 1: lists were just nitpicking on certain plays or whatever. But man,

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Speaker 1: it was just, you know, a complete effort by the

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Speaker 1: entire team shutting out the league's top point production team.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's an accomplishment. I don't care. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: That would be offense to everybody else listening. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if it's the Detroit Lions or the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: You you shut out a team in the NFL, That's

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Speaker 1: that's an accomplishment. Huge for sure, And as you said,

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Speaker 1: not so eloquently the number one ranked offense in football. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like no asterisk there. Yep. I don't know what they

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Speaker 1: got what they did to Jared Goff, but man, he

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Speaker 1: just looked compy by the second half of that game,

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Speaker 1: like he just wasn't seeing anything. I mean, and I

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Speaker 1: saw Evan tweet out something similar and I said, I

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Speaker 1: kind of agree with him watching the game again of that.

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Speaker 1: You know, whatever they do to Jared Goff, like it's

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Speaker 1: it's getting to him, it's working. Yeause he was missing.

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Speaker 1: I think he could have played a lot better. There

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Speaker 1: were there were plays to be made, but I don't

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Speaker 1: want to take away from the credit of the defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think keep key moments. They came through

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Speaker 1: and that's a great sign, you know, that's a great time.

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Speaker 1: That was the point that I made too, Like it

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Speaker 1: was all the important plays in that game. The Patriots dominated, Yeah, dominated, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is nice to see. Yep. Situational, Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 1: So here we are two and three. You know, back

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Speaker 1: in the hunt, sure only two games behind. The Bills

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Speaker 1: had to get right one and now it's like we

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Speaker 1: can't don't stop now, Yeah, I mean to get the

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Speaker 1: Browns as we see, the worst the Patriots can be

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Speaker 1: is fourteen. I mean they can be fourteen and three,

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Speaker 1: right right right, that's the ceiling. That's the ceiling. So

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Speaker 1: there's no way to get rid of any of those

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Speaker 1: three losses. That's a pretty good ceiling. Yeah, well, look,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a pretty good ceiling. Of course, you're

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Speaker 1: And I think that game last weekend gave me confidence

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Speaker 1: bill bills. Yeah, sixteen and nothing. Right, So so they

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Speaker 1: So like that that's a legit run defense. Then it's

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Speaker 1: think anytime you'd run the ball like that, um, you

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Speaker 1: the Browns want to do because they can't. They can't

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Speaker 1: don't want to have Jacoby Brissette throwing the ball forty times,

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Speaker 1: in general terms, that keeps the score down, which could

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Speaker 1: very similar styles I think in this game. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tired of getting made fun of a good memory? I

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Speaker 1: Tannest Johnson's Ernis Johnson. Um, you know so uh, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's a good matchup. But let's go. Let's win.

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Speaker 1: Let's get three and three. You gotta win these games now.

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Speaker 1: You gotta set the table for after the buy when

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Speaker 1: looking for. So turning back to the game, to the

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Speaker 1: but Belichick, I'm gonna be all in on that one belly.

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Speaker 1: putting together a winning program now. I I haven't been

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Speaker 1: that'll that'll get me. You want to score twenty nine

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Speaker 1: Oh we like prefaced it, like you don't want to

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Speaker 1: our minds about oh, the Patriots are given a play

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Speaker 1: calling job to a defensive guy and this will never

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Speaker 1: work in Max debt, Like if you went into that

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Speaker 1: whole preamble, you know, do you feel vindicated? Like what

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Speaker 1: like writing now? What was the response? Three? Are you know? Maddie?

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Speaker 1: He was like, ah, you know, I just I come

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Speaker 1: you on that point, Like you got a long way

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Speaker 1: they deserve any positive press that they get. They're you know,

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and Joe Judge deserve dealing with a third

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Speaker 1: he was? He first half, jude On, second half Judeon. Um,

424
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: he still might be, but certainly you know he's doing

425
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 1: it um, you know. And it's not just sacks, it's

426
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 1: it's all over the field. Um. So you know that's

427
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 1: great and he's doing well and why is his doing well?

428
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: And you know, I was reading Evan this morning and

429
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: he had a really detailed breakdown of the game, as

430
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: he always does, and really interesting by the way, if

431
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 1: you know, you want to see the differences between the

432
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 1: offense with Zappi versus mac Um. But he was also

433
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 1: talking about the defense, and you know, he was looking

434
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 1: at Barma or a lot, and I was, you know,

435
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 1: I've been sort of like disappointed a little bit from Barmore,

436
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: but you know, he's doing the kind of things according

437
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: to Evan anyway that is helping Jude On and whys

438
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, have the type of production they're getting so great,

439
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, and I you know, and it's probably because

440
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: guys hurt, but Barmore is getting a lot more first

441
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 1: and second down snaps, which is good. That can only

442
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 1: help him. Um, you know, so all around, like you're

443
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 1: seeing improvement at all levels. And and when it comes

444
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: to people like Jack Jones, it's not necessarily improvement. You're

445
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: just seeing guys, you know, a guy as a rookie

446
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 1: do things that you weren't I wasn't expecting, yeah, you know,

447
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 1: I know, and then clearly they they you know, it's

448
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: funny how these players pop like from training camp, like

449
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 1: Jack Jones getting out there a little bit, you know,

450
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: like you just it seems like the guys that are

451
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: good you right right away. Like it's not a lot

452
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: of guys that you're six jump like Pa you know,

453
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: like I mean came out of for sixteen for six years,

454
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: and you know, give him a second contract because that's

455
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: when it all started. A little quiet after. Yeah, he

456
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: quieted down after he stopped facing that fourth string tackle

457
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: from Baltimore. It's been a little bit of the slower go. Yeah,

458
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: it's funny that was even just like watching him straight up,

459
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, he looks good, Like he just looked like

460
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: the defense. I agree the one way that you described it, Freddy,

461
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: like they're playing good, disciplined football. I would agree with that.

462
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 1: They haven't have a lot of like egregious breakdowns. Yeah,

463
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: defensively since that first game with Carl Davis when he jumped.

464
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: But no, but that's like that's a mental mistake. I'm

465
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: talking about like a blown coverage. You know, they run

466
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: you know, they run a quick you know, a quick

467
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: cutback and it's like no one there. The pursued angle

468
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: was gone. They haven't had a lot of egregious They've

469
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: had some. I'm not listen. I said it earlier. They

470
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: they get thirty seven and twenty seven in consecutive games.

471
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: They weren't great in defense those two games. They were

472
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: really good in the first half of the Green Bay game,

473
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: but they weren't good in the second half or overtime,

474
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: and they weren't really good at all in the Baltimore game,

475
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: but this game dominant. Yeah, and then against a good

476
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: offense too. It's not an offense that was playing with

477
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: a hand tied behind his back. And you know it's

478
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: like even on offense. Like so Agalore has a bad game.

479
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: But Myers comes in and immediately has one hundred and

480
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: eleven yards. You know, Thornton comes in and doesn't drop

481
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: a pass thrown to him. You know, like it wasn't alright,

482
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't a you know, two catches for

483
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: seven yards, but he looked good and didn't get open

484
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: really in the game. Oh no, I at that, I did.

485
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: I firmly disagree the bomb they threw down the sideline,

486
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: the defender ran the route for him. That's fine that

487
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: there were two other plays, specific plays where Zappi could

488
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: have had him for a home run and he went

489
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: for the shorter pass. Now one of the shorter passes

490
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: was I think twenty three yards to Meyers. So like,

491
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm not complaining, but Thornton had the deep route and

492
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 1: he was immediately open and we were watching off the

493
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: line and that didn't happen often. No, he was I'm

494
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: not telling you you're wrong. I'm just saying we watched

495
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: him coming off the line a lot and he was

496
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 1: having a really hard time. Well, he was open on

497
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: two home runs that zappy you know, chose to go

498
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: other ways, which listen is fine. He you know, he

499
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: was playing it cautiously. That's great, but he'll Thornton's gonna

500
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: be okay. It's a good start. I mean, I you know,

501
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if he got open or but you

502
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But just to get him out

503
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: there and get him back already week five, Yeah, after

504
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: what you thought he might have been end of October.

505
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean they said six weeks, six day, eight weeks.

506
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 1: I know it was six weeks. I'm like, why, Like,

507
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure he actually broke his collar. Oh,

508
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: I think he did well. Then why is he back already?

509
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: Because they said six day, eight weeks. That's all it takes.

510
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: I did it twice, But how's all it takes? Six

511
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: it's been six Oh you know, as a as a pro,

512
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: when they say six to eight weeks, I'm going to

513
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: go to the shorter side for a professional athlete. I

514
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't I'm not sure you know, maybe

515
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: maybe he's back like a game. Like. I didn't know

516
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: if they would activate them right away. I thought they

517
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: might make him practice for a week. They activated him

518
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: right away. Yeah, that's great. That means they're high on him.

519
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: I agree with Mike. I think that means that they

520
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: have plans for So here's here's here's why I'm I'm

521
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: a little bit excited about this offense because I do

522
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: think Mac is the much better quarterback. And when he

523
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: comes back, I think he's coming back to a better

524
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: offense that he left, believe it or not, because of

525
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: the adversity that they've had to play through here in

526
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line and all that. I think he's going

527
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: to come back to a better surrounding cast than he left.

528
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna be good. I think Max's

529
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: gonna feast. I've been Max gonna eat let Mackie. I've

530
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: been thinking a lot about this exactly. No, I have

531
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: no idea, and I'm asking myself, like I want that

532
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: to be true, because I wanted the team is playing

533
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: well and and but and maybe like past protection wise,

534
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: like it's getting a little bit sync and everything. Take

535
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: one guy. This is why I don't know Stevenson talk

536
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: about improvement. He's improved in pass protection. You know, I

537
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: think he has been. I think he's the I think

538
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: he's the best player with the team. But that's just me. Um,

539
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: But he like but that type of thing that's gonna

540
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: help Max. Yeh. But but if you if you go

541
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: like like pass protection. Okay, they threw the ball twenty times,

542
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: the ball was out of his hands in an instant,

543
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: every single one of those passes, and they didn't get

544
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: any yards, Like you know, this was one hundred and

545
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: eighty eight yards in the game. I don't think they're

546
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: gonna do that with mac Jones. Yeah. Now, if they

547
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: do that, I don't expect mac Jones will be dealing

548
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: with a lot of pressure either. I think that the

549
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: way that they set that game up now plus Detroit

550
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: doesn't get after the passer at all. Um, I don't think.

551
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't think pressure has been I don't think pressure

552
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: will be a huge part of the problem if they

553
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: have a similar kind of game plan then they did

554
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Yeah, right, Well, and then they get into

555
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: thirdin lungs and you know those kind of situations. Yeah,

556
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: when having to play with sure happens when you fall

557
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: behind by two schools in the second half and you're

558
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: throwing the ball on every play. Having that's when Mac

559
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: Jones was making his mistakes. Having to play with ZAPPI

560
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: was sort of like dealing with the pandemic. You know,

561
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: you you adapted and even though you know you couldn't

562
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: do everything you wanted during the COVID, there were some

563
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: things that came out of the COVID that, oh, this

564
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: is pretty good. Yeah, you know, and I think that's

565
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: what's happening here, Like you're realizing that we can do

566
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: certain things when we have to, and that's only going

567
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: to help Mac in the offense overall. Yeah, the past

568
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 1: protections like zoom meetings, I think that's like, but he's right,

569
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean a lot more convenient. There's a lot of

570
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: things that we changed the way we did and we realized, um,

571
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: that's kind of a better way to do it, right.

572
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't need to hug everybody, I see, right, you know,

573
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: we don't need to bring everybody into the locker room

574
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: Monday afternoon to talk to Matthew Slater and then become

575
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: a bit of a hugger. Yeah. But yeah, I mean,

576
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: like the zoom meetings and stuff like that. When you

577
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: are not all together. We don't have to come into

578
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: the office just to have a meeting, right, you know,

579
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: we can regroup. I would we always air on meeting

580
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: in person if you could, if if everybody is here,

581
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: but especially if there's going to be cupcakes, you know,

582
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: it's like cupcakes today. It's like, you know, I'd rather

583
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: have a balance. But if we have to run all

584
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: the time, okay, and especially when another team knows you

585
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: have to run all the timing, you still do it anyway.

586
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: And I like it's that's why I think the Browns

587
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: are legit, because people know they've got to run, and

588
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: yet they they're averaging one hundred and ninety yards a game.

589
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: They're the top ranked rushing off and it's not like

590
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: it's also not an asterisk where like Lamar Jackson, right,

591
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, right, yeah, can't run, right, he's not he's

592
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: not adding to the rushing total. Um. So they're pretty

593
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: good doing that stuff. And I would expect them to

594
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: get some plays on the ground, you know, And the

595
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: key will be what happens in like this game. Every

596
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: time the Lions got in scoring the Lion we're inside

597
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: the thirty I don't know, six seven times in that

598
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: game and came away with no points. Yeah, Like that's

599
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: if you can keep the score down that way, that's

600
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: that that's the huge key. Probably a good time to

601
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: mention too, Tom Palaceero reporting Harris is going to miss

602
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: some time expected Hi miss some time with the hamstring.

603
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: So I hadn't seen that. Um, I think that's uh,

604
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: it's an interesting debate, Bill said on Monday, No time

605
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: Montgomery this week. Surprised by that that he came out

606
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: and just shot that down club. That tells me that

607
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: he ain't close. Yeah, So then it's the other Harris

608
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: or Pierre Strong, right, or j J J J J Taylor? Yeah,

609
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: or to go out and and try to get somebody

610
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: if you don't if you don't trust the rookies, or

611
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't seem like they got a lot

612
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: of confidence in J. J. Taylor. I mean, I got

613
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: to think that he gets the promotion though, But I

614
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: mean I would have been curious to see on Sunday,

615
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: let's say Thornton wasn't active, Because if Thornton wasn't active

616
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: in that game, Pierre Strong probably is right. Probably Yeah,

617
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: And then Harris goes down so early in the game,

618
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: would they still have given Stevenson twenty five carriers or

619
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: what they would said? You know what, let's keep it

620
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: to seventeen. Will give the kids seven or eight carries

621
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: to to get his feet wet. We got a twenty

622
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: six nothing the lead, twenty nine nothing the lead. You

623
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: don't think they might have? Yeah, and then that would

624
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: have been perfect for him going forward into a game.

625
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: But now I don't. I don't know how they feel

626
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: about Pierre st I have no idea, but he's the

627
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: guy on the active roster. Right. Do you think because

628
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: of that there might be one practice this week that's

629
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: in pads with some hitting or the other Harris ready

630
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: or running. I mean, you know, I think you know

631
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: you're talking about last weekday. A lot of the guys

632
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: talked that they pulled back and didn't wear pads last Wednesday,

633
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: built built talk they went walked through off the overtime game.

634
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Speaker 1: It's kind of those like sports science stuff, you know,

635
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Speaker 1: And I'm serious, Yeah, like a science like a pitch

636
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Speaker 1: came um but Latin to me. I don't know how

637
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Speaker 1: how I mean, I think you got a physical run

638
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: team coming in and you know, you were home this week,

639
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say there's gonna be pads tomorrow. But

640
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I mean, I think it's a conversation.

641
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: We had a lot all through the summer of Kevin

642
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: Harris had the issues at the end with with the

643
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: putting the ball on the ground. Never really saw anything

644
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: out of peer Strong. I mean, he just never really

645
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: had a moment that I can look back on during

646
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: camp and say, oh, that was a good play, um.

647
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: And you know, and J J. Taylor continues to be

648
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: JJ Taylor, which is so he can he makes plays

649
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: like he seems to be active when he gets out there,

650
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, they seem like that is like

651
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: break glass in case of him. I think I think

652
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: we're going to see him elevated this week. Now. I

653
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: don't know if he'll have a huge role. And I

654
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: think he's been hurt too. Yeah, but he's on the practice. Yeah.

655
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: I talked to my buddy Mike Greece though when he

656
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: said he was he was missing from practice for a

657
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: little bit. But he's been out back. So assuming that

658
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: that's good Intel and I have no reason to ever

659
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: doubt the best in the business. But then I also

660
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: think Paul, like he Strong, has had like five weeks

661
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: of practice, Like if he can't even get a shot

662
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: now that, I don't think that's a great sign. Well,

663
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: I think he'll be active too. I think they're gonna

664
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: have to figure out the ball. Well, they're gonna have

665
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: to figure out what to do with the wide receiver situation,

666
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: because obviously one of them will replace Damian Harris if

667
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: he's in fact out one of them, so that that's

668
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: a one for one. But I think you might. I

669
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: think you're gonna need to go with an extra running back.

670
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Speaker 1: Don't you like what happens if you if you say, okay,

671
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: I go to go with Jess from Mondre Stevenson and

672
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: Pierre Strong, and then you know, Strong gets out there

673
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: and like fumbles the ball or you know, God forbid Stevenson,

674
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: you know, turns an ankle. Right, Well, I think they

675
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: might have two extra running backs because I like Agalore

676
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: and Borne might be dinged up right. They had a

677
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: hamstring issue. Didn't Born get hurt too, No, just his pride.

678
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: He got yelled at by Bill. I know he did.

679
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: I know, I know he did. But I thought he

680
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: also had his own little hamstring. But we'll see on Wednesday.

681
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, we'll see on Wednesday when we get

682
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: the first injury report that Belichick can't wait to give

683
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: it to us. Yeah, all right, Well, a lot of

684
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. Eight five five paths five hundred.

685
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Speaker 1: Is the a sticket out line, web radio at Patriots

686
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Speaker 1: dot com. Is the email address, um one other things.

687
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: You know, we'll talk about this a little later. But

688
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, UM, the QB hits, you know, it's crazy

689
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 1: like the last night in Um, the Brady one on Sunday,

690
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: we're ridiculously bad calls. But people are confusing that emphasis

691
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: with the concussion protocol. The two situation is about concussion protocol. Yeah,

692
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: I think it's not about QB hits. I think they're

693
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: extremely related. Well it's they're all under the umbrella of

694
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: safety making the game more safe, but especially the Brady one.

695
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: But was the kind of like quote unquote throwdown. Yeah no, no,

696
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: that that's how the concussion happened. But but people are

697
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: conflating to you know, people are conflating the you know,

698
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: the concussion procedure and protocol with this over emphasis of

699
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: QB hits. They're to me, they're separate. You can talk

700
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: about them separately. You know, when does a guy have

701
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: a concussion? Verse when should he come out of the game?

702
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: Verse what's a QB roughing and what's not? I think

703
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: they're separate discussions, you know, and people are conflating both

704
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, I think that the reason that people

705
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: and I'm conflating them too. If saying it the way

706
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: you just said it, I agree one hundred percent. Like

707
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: the conversations about when a guy should or shouldn't be

708
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: allowed to play is different than this. But I think

709
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: that they're being more stringent on these calls because of

710
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: the recent concussions. Well, if that's the case, then they

711
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: should be all over the field then, not just with

712
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks exactly. You know what they're talking about, Like

713
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: the spinning down that Cincinnati did of Tua. Yeah, there's

714
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that play. Now, it was unfortunate. The

715
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 1: result of the play was unfortunate, but there was there's

716
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with throwing a guy down. Now, if you

717
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: pick a guy up and toss him on his head,

718
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: that's different. But you're spinning a guy like I don't

719
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: know how how many times do we watch these games

720
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL and we will watch training, can't practice,

721
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: and we see how little tackling they do. When we

722
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: say no one can tackle anymore, no one can tackle,

723
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: no one can tackle. These guys break so many tackles,

724
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: These guys missed so many tackles, and then they have

725
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: to watch the way they tackle because if they don't

726
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: do it right, it's a fifteen yard penalty that all

727
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, can completely alter the game. Think about think

728
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: about the Tampa Bay Atlanta one specifically, forget about the

729
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: play itself, think about the impact it potentially has on

730
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: a livelihood. Arthur Smith isn't like about his second or

731
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: third year, third year, Maybe that's a that's like a

732
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: career trajectory kind of altering play. You get that win,

733
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: and they're like in first place in the A and

734
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: the NFC South in a bad division, but in the

735
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: conference that's wide open, and maybe that's the you know,

736
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: we just we just rallied from a twenty one nothing

737
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: deficit at Tampa. Yeah, got that win, and now here

738
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: we go, we're gonna take off as opposed to right,

739
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: it's maybe they lose four the next five because they're

740
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: still feeling sorry for themselves for the screw it's quarterback roughing. Reviewable. No,

741
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: it should be. Make it reviewable. Make it reviewable. It's

742
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: it's a big I would like to see if you

743
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: don't want to make it reviewable. I understand there was

744
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: a play in the game on Sunday that the officials

745
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I think overturned upstairs that we never knew about, and

746
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: that was early in the game. Jared Goff rolled to

747
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: the near sideline by the in front of the Lions bench.

748
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: First possession of the game, the first down one yeah,

749
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: yeah he the referee put the ball down, signaled first down.

750
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: They moved the chains yep, and then then all of

751
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: a sudden, the referee said, actually, actually we've spotted the ball.

752
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: It's fourth down, less than the yard to go. There's

753
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind that someone upstairs said you

754
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: missed the spot on that right, and I think they're right.

755
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: The guy upstairs got it right. He was short of

756
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: the first down by like a blade of grass. Yea.

757
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: No one had like you didn't have to like stop

758
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: the game, go under a hood. Oh I make a production.

759
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: Was clearly someone the upstairs told the referee that they

760
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: spotted the ball. I've always been a proponent of having

761
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: that extra eyes and having them able to because they're

762
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: not going to overrule unless it's obvious, unless they're absolutely sure.

763
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: And I think you know, I know, Belichick's a proponent

764
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: of everything should be reviewable, sure, and why not. But

765
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: you know you still have the limitations on how many

766
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: times you can call for a review and all that.

767
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: That all remains the same, But anything can be reviewed.

768
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: So I think quarterback roughing should be reviewed. And here's

769
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: my problem with it. I think if both of those

770
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: players got reviewed, they both would have stayed. I don't

771
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: think did you hear the explanations by the two morons

772
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: that called him? Yea, I know, but last night you

773
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: know who, I don't know who was in the both well,

774
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: who was in it absolutely wasn't rough right. He said

775
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: his arm actually came down to bracet and Kyle Scheffer

776
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: said no, he related it right on. Well, he's wrong

777
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: and no kidding. And he's the one who made the

778
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: car I know, but don't let him be the like

779
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: I said, if it's reviewable, he's the one who makes

780
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: the call, the guy up in the booth, the guy

781
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: up in the booth. Now you're changing the tirety of

782
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: the system. Okay, I don't care, but this is this

783
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: is That's what I worry about is guys like like

784
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: Jerome Bogar and the guy last night, they go, they

785
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: go to the pool, they go to the pool report

786
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: and they double down. I know, like, I don't think

787
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with the guy saying, obviously I had

788
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: a chance to see a couple of replays and uh,

789
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: you know, Jared didn't spin him down the way I

790
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: had originally seen it. That's what I'd like to have back. Okay,

791
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: if I'm Arthur Smith and the Falcons, I'm not any

792
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: less pissed, but at least I have an acknowledgement that

793
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: what everybody saw was actually what happened, right Instead, Jerome

794
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: Bogar says, what I saw was him throwing him to

795
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: the to the ground. They tell them that's called the tackle.

796
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: They tell they tell these refs air on the side

797
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: of caution when it comes to these quack that. I

798
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: thought that was interesting that John Parry said last night.

799
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: It's the only rule in the book that it specifically says,

800
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: when in doubt, throw it right and rubbing the past.

801
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: I've never heard that, and so that makes it tough

802
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: on the ref so take it out of their hands

803
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: if it's questionable and let somebody else look at it. Yeah,

804
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: well it's just I mean, this is you're talking about

805
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: games being affected, and I mean as as a referee myself,

806
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: but there's nothing worse than thinking like you gotta call

807
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: wrong and you have no way to get it back,

808
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: and a team is going to get screwed royally and

809
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: lose a game, and all the implications. Like Paul laid out,

810
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: I just get it right, Just get it right, just

811
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: get right aside, Just get somebody up top and get

812
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: it right. Because so many times, you know, the roughing

813
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: happens after a good defensive play. Well, this one is

814
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: the one on the Chiefs was really bad because I

815
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: mean ten minutes but that but that's a play that

816
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: changes the entire game. Now, the Chiefs ended up coming

817
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: back from it because they're good enough to come back

818
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: from it. But you think if that happened in the

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00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, they were overcoming now right right, all right, Um,

820
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: Paul's foods here, So we'll take a break, let them meet.

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Speaker 1: time fawler. Thank you. I just got a couple of

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Speaker 1: I think he throw No, I do. I think he

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Speaker 1: I'm not making a plus or minus for mac Jones

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a little one good point I

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Speaker 1: the only things I want to mention about Zappi, only

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Speaker 1: I'm not comparing it to Brady or bled so in

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Speaker 1: what do you think the score of the game would

1054
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: have been Sunday Beforior played Like maybe the exact same.

1055
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: I would probably say more, Yeah, they don't kick five

1056
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: field goals, maybe they get another touchdown or two. Yeah, right,

1057
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: Patty's an agawam, what's up, Patty? Patty? Patty's usually right

1058
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: on the ball, but it's probably drunk. Not today. Go

1059
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: to Christian in La. What's up Christian? Hey, you guys,

1060
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday. See you all. Thanks getting right into it.

1061
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't have any questions, but I do have a

1062
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: couple of wins I'd like to have you guys speak about.

1063
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: First of all, shout out to the defense for playing

1064
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: up to their potential and showing what this defense can

1065
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: do if they all play together. Shout out to Daddy

1066
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: for holding it together and making some plays. And maybe

1067
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: he does play in a way that Mac doesn't quite

1068
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: play in that our players respond to a little bit better.

1069
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: Um More, Stephen thought this guy was special from the

1070
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: very beginning, and all he really needed was a lot

1071
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: more opportunity in this offense. Tiquan Thornton, we need to

1072
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: get this guy a little more movement, right. He's not

1073
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: going to fight hand fighting off the line or beat

1074
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: the press. He needs to do some of that movement

1075
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: like Julian Edelman needs to do and explode into the secondary.

1076
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: And I think maybe we can get some um splash

1077
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: plays from him in that way. Um Jones man, what

1078
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: a play? Which one did? Come the play last night?

1079
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: He becomes the first player in NFL history to get

1080
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: a roughing the passer call while he had the ball

1081
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: in his hand. So the call was not a miscall.

1082
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: The spirital of the call is a quarterback is still

1083
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: in a quarterbacking position. You can't land on him with

1084
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: both of your hands. He didn't, He didn't wait supposed

1085
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: to brace him, right, Yeah, he did. Brace. That's what

1086
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: made it even worse. Yeah, one hand had the ball, right,

1087
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: so he had possession of the ball actually and brace

1088
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: embrace the fall with the other on right, Like, that's

1089
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: what made it doubly bad. Yeah, because you're right, Christian, like,

1090
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: he's got the ball in his hands. He shouldn't have

1091
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 1: to worry about what happens after that, right absolutely. However,

1092
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: what they said was last night. But even if a

1093
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: guy like intercepts the ball and in the in the

1094
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: process he takes the quarterback and throws them down to

1095
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: the ground or something, that would be roughing, So they

1096
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: have to right, but it wouldn't bet Yeah, but it's

1097
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: not the same. It would be a post possession foul

1098
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: in that case, right, right, And if they called it

1099
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: a post possession foul last night, I at least would

1100
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: have I still would disagree with the call, but at

1101
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 1: least I would understand. I'll tell you what the problem

1102
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: with that play was. Kyle Shefferds had no idea that

1103
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: Chris Jones had the ball. None right, so right. He

1104
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: called the call the way it was supposed to be

1105
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: called based on what he saw. So my last point

1106
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: is this, I think we need to move for something

1107
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: like an extreme impact reviewable rule, where if there's a

1108
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: play in the game that has extreme impact on the

1109
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: outcome of the game, that call should be reviewable. How

1110
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: do you determine that? That's now, now we're really getting

1111
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: into gray areas, But how do you determine what's an

1112
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: extreme impact on the game call? Now? Just do what

1113
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: Bill says. Everything's reviewables down. No no no no no

1114
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no. The same

1115
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: restrictions on how many reviews are in place. It's just

1116
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: that everything can be reviewed and then under two minutes

1117
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: everything can be reviewed, but it's done. Nothing changes except

1118
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: what can be right. I would be all for that

1119
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: if they didn't try that thing with pass interference a

1120
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: few years ago, and then they refused to actually look

1121
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,959
Speaker 1: at the replay. Yeah right, So wait, what you're saying

1122
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: is you can throw the flags through review any kind

1123
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: of play at anytime. Rights, exactly, and if you get them,

1124
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: if you get both of them right, you get a third. Right.

1125
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: No changes to the amount that you can challenge, right,

1126
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: just Freddie wants to open everything up to challenge. Yeah, listen,

1127
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: I know you guys are down or you haven't seen

1128
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: a lot from your stone, but mark my words. Like

1129
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: I said in the preseason, by the end of the season,

1130
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: the backfield would be Romandre Stephens and pr Strong with

1131
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: his four three speed and ability to catch the ball

1132
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. A little more coaching, I think

1133
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: he'd become an impact player later on the season. It's

1134
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: like a faster version of James White. It's not a

1135
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: great receiver, just so you know. But whatever, all right, thanks,

1136
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: Christian were gon We're gonna make him one. Well, Christian

1137
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: was writing about Romandre Stevenson from the start, so why

1138
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: not pr Strong Stevens Uh Yeah, I told you, I

1139
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: think Romandre Stevenson is the best player in the team.

1140
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: I have been saying for the better part of a

1141
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: year and a half. You know. Ever since he was

1142
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: finally allowed to play after you know, daring to fumble

1143
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: once in his career, I think he's been dominant. I

1144
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: think Vermandre Stevenson is a better back than Damian. That

1145
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: lesson made him better. Paul just as maybe cost seating

1146
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: last year. We talked about it on the TV show.

1147
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: But his jump cuts, like his ability to just kind

1148
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: of go stop go Ladderal Barry sanders Man going, it's

1149
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: it's I mean, there were just so many I don't

1150
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: remember an instance like this weekend where there were so

1151
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: many lions that thought they had him and then all

1152
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden he just throws the brakes on hops

1153
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: left or right and they miss. I mean, yeah, break ankle.

1154
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: He is really good in small spaces and then you've

1155
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: got to try to tackle him too, so it's like

1156
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: you put your head down, you know. It's it's tough.

1157
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: He's a big boy. He'll run you over, but he

1158
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: can also jump around. Yet it's cool to watch, all right.

1159
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: Web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address.

1160
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: We're getting a lot of emails. Um Ken in the

1161
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 1: Navy will start it off, he says, with preseason just ending.

1162
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: We have our first unsurprising head coach firing in Carolina.

1163
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: How many Patriots coaching staff do we think will be

1164
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: interviewed this season? One also, offense look competent with a

1165
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: third string quarterback, and our past d pass rush looks great.

1166
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking everyone from assistant tight end coach all the

1167
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: way to our co offensive coordinators will get interviews. No,

1168
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I make Jerod Mayob in the carousel.

1169
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: I think you'll see his name pop up. Yeah. Um,

1170
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: Kyle writes in I'd love to hear what you guys

1171
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: have to say on this. I'm so sick of the

1172
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks throwing, not throwing to uh oh, throwing to Nelly.

1173
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't even deserve to be thrown. Every time he

1174
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: touches the ball, something bad happens. His situational awareness is

1175
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: lackluster to say the least. And you have Kendrick Bourne,

1176
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: who is more than capable, but they refuse to use

1177
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: him because of his situation months ago. Still unbelievable to me,

1178
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: they continue to give this guy his chance. As loyal

1179
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: Patriots fan, I understand they need every receiver they can get.

1180
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: You also can't throw to myers every play. I do

1181
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: like Zappy more than Mac at this point too. At

1182
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: least passes Zappy throws on fifty fifty balls. Just my thoughts. Wow,

1183
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: so you want to give the numbers Deuce Born? How

1184
00:59:54,640 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: many snaps are born of the snaps? How many for

1185
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: seven forum? And I would also say this, And I

1186
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: understand what the point that he's trying to make. Agilo

1187
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: has been involved in turnovers. He had two fumbles. He

1188
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: had a ball that he should have caught that resulted

1189
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: in an interception this week. Okay, so can we you

1190
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: we can make an assessment of Agio, but let's be

1191
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: consistent and assess all the players the same way. Okay,

1192
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: Born was involved in a catch in a previous game

1193
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: that he fumbled. He was able to recover it. It's

1194
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: no less egregious of a mistake. He caught a ball

1195
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: and then fumbled it. This pass game, he was involved

1196
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: in two plays where he got pre snap penalties on

1197
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: because he didn't know what he was doing. He got

1198
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: his ass chewed out for one of them by Belichick

1199
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: when he wasn't in the illegal formation one um and

1200
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: it look kind of looked like Bills just said go

1201
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: sit down, like at the end of that I have

1202
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: questions about that that call just just for my I mean,

1203
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to interrupt your thing right now. We

1204
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: can't come back, no, But I'm just saying, let's have value. Wait,

1205
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: all of the players all the way, not the ones

1206
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: that we like differently, and then the ones that we

1207
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: don't like. Clearly people don't like Alga Lord, which is fine.

1208
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: He deserves it. He has three turnovers. Like, I think

1209
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: that the criticism that he's getting is warranted. He's he's

1210
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: been involved in negative plays so as Born, but we're

1211
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: ignoring those because we like Born and we think he's

1212
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: the missing the secret sauce, right that isn't being put

1213
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: on the burger yet. I just my question on that

1214
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: one though, was you know he was like in motion,

1215
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: he didn't stop and then I think he got called

1216
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: for covering up the line of the ends room, So

1217
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: does he have to stop there? That wasn't the same play?

1218
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: Am I thinking? Am? I was two different pens, two

1219
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: different people. He went in motion and started up up

1220
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: field before the snap. You can't this isn't the CFL.

1221
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: You can't do that. That's illegal motion. And there was

1222
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: another play that he was lined up covering up the

1223
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: tight end, okay, which is just which is really mindless.

1224
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: That's the one he got in trouble. But the first

1225
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: one happens occasionally. The referees generally give you some leeway

1226
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: with that one one. I think that one was kind

1227
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: of egregious and they had to call it. But the

1228
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: second penalty that he got line up you can't line

1229
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: up wrong. You can't get illegal formation grinds our gears

1230
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: like priest and that penalties. I'm with the guy though,

1231
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: too just I mean, more philosophically on agil Or just

1232
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: like you got a rookie quarterback, step up, make some

1233
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: place for the kid. You know. It's just anytime a

1234
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: veteran player like that isn't doing that, it's it's more disappointing.

1235
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: But the thing is is that Agilo was productive in

1236
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: training camp. Like, Agilo looked good. He made a lot

1237
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: of plays in training camp, and I thought he got

1238
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: off to a good start, and then the fumbles have

1239
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: derailed him. It's been disappointing. The other things. I sort

1240
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: of came to this, like, you know, we all want

1241
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: Thornton to play, right. I don't want to get rid

1242
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: of any of these guys because I don't either, because

1243
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna need them. I do too. If

1244
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: you just look at the they played five weeks. Thornton

1245
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: had to miss four games, Myers had a miss two games,

1246
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: and now Agila basically missed a game. I don't know,

1247
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: maybe he got benched, Maybe the hamstring wasn't a big

1248
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: of an issue. You maybe the drop contributed to him

1249
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: only playing seven plays, right, But I think that's tenuous

1250
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: at that spot. And you know, my favorite guy, DeVante Parker,

1251
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: in terms of injuries, like, he gets hurt all the time.

1252
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how much he's gonna get hurt because

1253
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: he seems to be a like kind of an afterthought

1254
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: right now. But I like the idea of having all

1255
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: six of those guys and then, you know, being pretty

1256
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: comfortable that I'm gonna have three or four of those

1257
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: every game available. Dude, did you read into anything of

1258
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: Parkers snaps? I mean he played fifty two percent, he

1259
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: played thirty one. I mean he pretty much is an

1260
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: every snap guy the first few weeks. I mean, how

1261
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: do you what do you read into that? Do you

1262
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: think that that's they ran the ball every play? I

1263
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: mean that was gonna take maybe some of the guys

1264
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: off the field a little bit. I don't know. I

1265
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: don't you know. It's a good question. I don't have

1266
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: the answer. I don't know if that's a direction they're

1267
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: going with Thornton coming back, or if it's just a

1268
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: generally direction they feel like they need to pull back

1269
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: on him, or like Paul said, I don't know, it's

1270
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: just maybe something bruling there. Bill and DC writes in

1271
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong

1272
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: on the quality of play calling. It's not great, but

1273
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: it's a lot better than I envisioned. I'm particularly impressed

1274
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: with the job they've done in protecting Zappy. That said,

1275
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots have the third worst red zone offense in

1276
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: the entire league in terms of scoring touchdowns. Obviously requires

1277
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: scheme to score. Obviously some of that is on the

1278
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: quarterback play, particularly Zappy, but I think a good portion

1279
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: of the blame has to fall on the guy calling

1280
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: the plays. Is this something you see improving when Matt

1281
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: comes back and Patricia gets a better feel for the game,

1282
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: or do we just not have the personnel to be

1283
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 1: effective inside the twenty? Now? I like his first point.

1284
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: I do think that's something you can expect to see

1285
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: improve when Matt gets back, and the intersections on the zone,

1286
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: Patricia and Judge will be a little bit better, you know.

1287
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: If we want to credit Bill, credit Bill, and I'm

1288
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: sure if it does improve, Bill will get the credit

1289
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: and poor Patricia and Judge will well, we'll not. You know.

1290
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: I did hear a lot of that, like what a

1291
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: great job by Belichick getting Zappy ready, you know, but

1292
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: Patricia and Judge they got to do something about all

1293
01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: the field goals in the red So I heard that

1294
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: on radio a quarterback coach, you know, he was it

1295
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: was you know, so there is, you know, an element

1296
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: of that. But I think that's a good point, the

1297
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: first one. I think you can expect it to get better. Yeah,

1298
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, with with Jones returning, I think it's it's

1299
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: significant the quarterbacks too. I mean, I don't think Mac

1300
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: was playing well in the red zone. I don't think

1301
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: they're ready to They've got the training wheels on Zappy,

1302
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: like they kind of had him on Mac last year,

1303
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't let him throw the end zone. So yeah,

1304
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: I did. This is a little point of comparison, you know,

1305
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: And this is not to I don't have anything negative

1306
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: whatsoever to say about Bailey's appy. I think, considering the circumstances,

1307
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: straight a's across the board for everything that he's done

1308
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: in his two games. Right, But just as a point

1309
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: of comparison, you're grading on a curve. No, no, yes,

1310
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: I am grading on a curve. You're right, right. As

1311
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: a point of comparison, Mac Jones's first game, first game,

1312
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: he threw the ball over forty times, he had thirty

1313
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: nine pass attempts. He get sacked a couple of times.

1314
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: Bailey's happy through at twenty one. Right, So like that's

1315
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: what the coaches think. Yeah, Tony writes, there can be

1316
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: no complaints at all about this game. Couldn't have had

1317
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: a better result considering you have a third string quarterback

1318
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: to first start and a defense which held previously high

1319
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: scoring team to zip. I complain a lot about the

1320
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: post Messiah era, but not this time. Good for them?

1321
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: Who was that, Tony? Excellent? Excellent email? You know, because

1322
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: it happens to agree with me, So it's an excellent email. Um,

1323
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: let's see Jack and osh gosh right? Um? Was the

1324
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: Patriots improved run defense against Detroit the result of game planning?

1325
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: Or have improved played by the Patriots linebackers. That's a

1326
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: Evan Lazark Now, Well, I mean, I think it's more

1327
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: about the score. I think a little bit of the score.

1328
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it was specific examples where

1329
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: these were big plays and they made the big plays.

1330
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, hey, they had the right scheme on

1331
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: those plays. Like, I think they just played well. They

1332
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: played well in the big spots that the short yardage

1333
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: stop on the first drive of the game was huge. Huge.

1334
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: Chris and Virginia says he has three things. One, I

1335
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: believe the play calling has gotten better as the season progressed. However,

1336
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: I have concerns over the red zone offense. Do you

1337
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: guys think it's play calling or execution? I feel like

1338
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: the play is questioning at times. Isn't that funny to you? Or?

1339
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 1: Am I the only one that finds that contradictory? Yeah?

1340
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: I didn't think the actual play calls themselves would be

1341
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: an issue. I thought the entire design structure of the

1342
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: offense would be an issue. I'll let you know when

1343
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's an issue anymore. Uh. The second thing,

1344
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: I would sit Mack this week and bring him back

1345
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: against the Bears. I mean, I'm all for protecting Mac

1346
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: from himself. I mean, I see Grease saying I can

1347
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,959
Speaker 1: see Mac trying to go at fifty to sixty percent,

1348
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: and I totally was he would try. But he plays

1349
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: when he's ready to play. In my mind, like if

1350
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: he's ready to play well the doctors, yeah, that's right.

1351
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: Not Mac. No, Like, no, he's got to be like

1352
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: I've got I've got to basically I have to. He

1353
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: has to try out for me, and he has to

1354
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: do certain things passes to move because right, I just

1355
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: think that if you get back there, even like listen Bailey, Zappi,

1356
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: he's not he's not a good runner, he's not overly mobile,

1357
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: he's not fast, he's not quick, but he moved around

1358
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: really well on Sunday, just like Mac moved around really

1359
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: well against Baltimore. And he's not fast either. But do

1360
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: you think Mac would be able to move the way

1361
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: he did against Baltimore right now? No? So if he can't,

1362
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: right then I say I gotta go with the kid again. Absolutely.

1363
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,959
Speaker 1: In the final thing from Chris is all this nonsense

1364
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: of Zappy over Mac is just poor to me. I

1365
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: think they just found Hoyer's replacement for the future and

1366
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: that's it. And there's nothing wrong with that if that

1367
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: is what the case is. I mean, you know, you

1368
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: could rely You might need to rely on this guy

1369
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of times and then, you know, I hope not.

1370
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: But I think there's people are underselling that uh Selman

1371
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area, right son. That was a good

1372
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 1: defensive win against a good offense. Yeah, I'm not jumping

1373
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: on the I think he cut and pasted and forgot

1374
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: to put it back in. I'm not jumping on the

1375
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: Zappy over Mac train right now. But Zappy does have

1376
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: a solid arm and makes good decisions. But they also

1377
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: are not asking much of him. He has a bright

1378
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: future as a backup now my game comments number one,

1379
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: the roughing the passer on mac Wilson can join the

1380
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: list of bad roughing the passer penalties. Fred, do you

1381
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: care to comment on that? In the in where the

1382
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: way I saw it on the replay his helmet hit

1383
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: uh Goth's chin. Other people said, you know that have

1384
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: seen it more times that it actually didn't, and go,

1385
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: you know sold it really well. You know, I look

1386
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: like I just don't understand why mac Wilson jumped. That's

1387
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: the only thing like jump if he made contact or didn't.

1388
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: I still haven't really seen a really good replay. I'm

1389
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: going off of Fred because to me, Fred would air

1390
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: on the side of the Patriot. Scot screwed right and

1391
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: Fred didn't. Yeh, he went the other way. No, I

1392
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: think it was I'm I'm with Fred. I think it

1393
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: was a poet number two. I saw a number fifty

1394
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: make a run stuffing play and wondered for a second

1395
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: who that was. When I realized it was McMillan. I thought,

1396
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: that's the first play I've seen him make all season. Yeah,

1397
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean he's been quite focused thumb. I mean he's yeah,

1398
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: he missed really is limited? Did he miss two games?

1399
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: I know he was out one, but I think he

1400
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: just played playing Pittsburgh, but sparingly. Sparingly I think against

1401
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: the Packers, Okay, and then but yeah, I mean it's

1402
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: I know they were cited about him. I think that's

1403
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: a you know, someone's a little bit I picked him

1404
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: out of college. No, yeah, I was. He was on

1405
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: my board, right, Paul McMillan. That that's the kind of

1406
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: guy that would be on your board, just a random

1407
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: like there was like a linebacker from like, oh, I forget,

1408
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: it's like a random like South Dakota State or some

1409
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: random like some guy that he fell in love with,

1410
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 1: White Homing or something. Was a combination, probably I cross reference.

1411
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: Now Fred does have, like I've got every year at

1412
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: the draft, is like three guys that he loves. Just

1413
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah, one of them will be a

1414
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: guy that everybody knows, like Justin Jefferson. Great call by

1415
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: the way, I'm not making fun of you for that

1416
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: at all, Great call um. And then the other two

1417
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: guys will be guys that, like you literally have to

1418
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: scour your notes to find, like his measurables. Three. Why

1419
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: go into the game with two running backs when you

1420
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: know the game plan is going to be run heavy

1421
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback? What would have happened if Stevenson

1422
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: got hurt too? That was a head scratcher coaching decision.

1423
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people. I think that's worthy of second guessing.

1424
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: And I think the reason that he just wrote there

1425
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: is why you would second guess it. You know you're

1426
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: gonna try to run the ball thirty five forty times,

1427
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: So I mean, I guess he probably looked at and said,

1428
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: even if I lose one, I'll have the other. But

1429
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: you lost one really early, I know, So what would

1430
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 1: have happened if you did lose the other one? And

1431
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: we were talking in the press box too, It's like

1432
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: you didn't even have John ou Smith, who's lined up

1433
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: in the backfield and run the ball a little bit.

1434
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: You didn't have him available. What would you have done? No?

1435
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: And then I mean I just look at your Socol too,

1436
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 1: who didn't even play. I mean that's how they're managing.

1437
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: Socol wasn't going to be getting the ball. But you

1438
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: see like at least they've got a little bit of

1439
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: protection at that spot where they only have one guy

1440
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: and didn't. It seemed after those two you don't really

1441
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: have anything. Yeah, they got away with it. Stevenson turned in,

1442
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, a career performance Oka and Tampa with teams

1443
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: going for it on fourth down more than they ever did.

1444
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: Do you think the NFL would ever consider changing first

1445
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: downs from ten yards to twelve to fifteen yards? I

1446
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: feel like it's getting too easy for offenses to move

1447
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 1: the chains. What do you guys think and how do

1448
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: you guys feel about that? I hate it? No, No,

1449
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's like extending the three point range in basketball.

1450
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 1: Too easy scoring is down. I mean, if it's so

1451
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: easy to get to get first downs, why is one

1452
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: team going four for twelve on third down the other

1453
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: seems going three for nine on third pound. Also a

1454
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: quick comment was the Patriots game Sunday third And also,

1455
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: you know that's the other thing. You know. Okay, so

1456
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 1: you live in New England, You're gonna watch the Patriots

1457
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: every week. The other game you're fed are usually games

1458
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: with you know, stars, good quarterbacks. So you see movement,

1459
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, you're used to that on TV. You know,

1460
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: you see the Mahomes, you see the Rogers, and you know.

1461
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,879
Speaker 1: Also a quick comment to Paul, Paul, you always proclaim

1462
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: you're not an All twenty two guy, but every time

1463
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: you comment on the x's and oh's, you're pretty spot on.

1464
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: I know Evan gets a lot of credit, as he should,

1465
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: but Paul, you definitely have a great football mind. I

1466
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: think a show with you and Evan would be good,

1467
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: but ever would kill me. But I know that would minutes.

1468
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: He would kill me in five minutes because I would

1469
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: get under his skin too much. And Paul, superpower is

1470
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: just sounding convincing he doesn't know. No, I'll tell you what.

1471
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what my First of all, I don't

1472
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: try to break down the ex's nose because I don't

1473
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: know them. I don't I don't pretend to know them.

1474
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to know them. But I do know

1475
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: what a good play is and a good player in general.

1476
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 1: But I think with my superpower is is something YouTube

1477
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: make fun of me all the time about your memory. Yes, yeah,

1478
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: and I remember a play and I remember what I saw,

1479
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: and I don't need to go and look at it

1480
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: all twenty two. I'm not telling you what all twenty

1481
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: two guys did on the play. I'm telling you what

1482
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: happened in my mind on a play. Right that. I mean,

1483
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people. I mean I

1484
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 1: listened to Greg all the time, right Greg Bdard when

1485
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 1: we leave here. He's on the post game show on

1486
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: the Sports Hub, and I can't tell you how many times.

1487
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: The first thing he says is, I'd have to go

1488
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: back and look and see how many plus plays, Like

1489
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: I watched the game, Romander Stevenson had a lot of

1490
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: plus plays in the game, Like I don't need to

1491
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: go back and look at you all twenty two. He

1492
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: fashions himself a coach. No, but that but that's what

1493
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: that's what the coach. But but there's a reason the

1494
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 1: coach is saying, right, Bill Belichick doesn't want to get

1495
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: into it. Do you think Bill Belichick couldn't tell you,

1496
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: of course after the game? Yeah, of course, of course

1497
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: he could because he is, like he could tell you

1498
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 1: what every guy did on every play. Yep, because that's

1499
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 1: like a different level of just in depth knowledge of

1500
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: what's going on. I don't have any of that, but

1501
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 1: Bill after a game could tell you how every single

1502
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: guy in the team played. Oh yeah, Well I feel

1503
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: a little bit like I have a unique perspective because

1504
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: I you know, I do like watching the All twenty two.

1505
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: But I couldn't go into a description like Evan could.

1506
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,839
Speaker 1: Well did I mention your name? No, right, I'm forgetting

1507
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: I go ahead, not unnoticed, but I will, but I

1508
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: will just say, like you know, I just you know,

1509
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: sorry Paul to give you a comment, but like I mean,

1510
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 1: I've watched four years of football with Paul now, and

1511
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: like you know, he gets it. Like and even though

1512
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: he might not be like, well this is a dolphin

1513
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: route here, you know, like, you know, specific things, right,

1514
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: But that's like what I like about when I read

1515
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: what we all write or what we all talk about,

1516
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know when I read like what

1517
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: Evan writes, and it's you know, he loves doing it.

1518
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 1: He loves doing the film review. He goes super in depth.

1519
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: But then like, but you can still line up, well,

1520
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: Paul's general points and my general points and the things

1521
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: that we saw, they're here. It's just he's gonna drill

1522
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: down for the people who really want to get into

1523
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: like that like nuance of it, which you don't have

1524
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: to do, like you like Paul understand, you know, like

1525
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: we all understand the game and what's going on, what

1526
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: the impactful plays are and who's good. But you know,

1527
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: it's just a different kind of flavor. Like I watched

1528
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: the game. Did you watch We see the cars. That's

1529
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: a good looking car and it's fast. Evan opens the hood. Yeah, yeah,

1530
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: it's like the game. The game last night, and I

1531
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: saw the highlights of the last play on the fourth down.

1532
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,759
Speaker 1: You know, you got DeVante Adams and Hunter Renfro running

1533
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: and they cross and Renfro just takes outta I don't

1534
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: need to watch the All twenty two to see what

1535
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: happened like the game ended, because it because the concept

1536
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,560
Speaker 1: because Hunter Renfro ran into DeVante Adams like I saw it,

1537
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: like I don't, I don't need I think. The other

1538
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: thing too with Paul is is that he I mean,

1539
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: we make fun of him with the ending game situations,

1540
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 1: but you just have an instant way of like and

1541
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: it just processes in your brain and a lot of

1542
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: that Chess Master, but a lot of that has been enhanced,

1543
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: but that's not really you know what that's like. For

1544
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: twenty plus years, Belichick and Brady did it better than

1545
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: anybody else. Yeah, and I watched them, Yeah, and I

1546
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: know when they're gonna call the time like I kind

1547
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: of said, Okay, you know they're gonna run this, They're

1548
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: gonna do that, They're gonna call it time out. They'll

1549
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: they'll spike the ball here, they'll go quick to the

1550
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: sideline here. Because you saw greatness for twenty plus years,

1551
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: you couldn't help but have like absorbed it a little bit.

1552
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: Do you ever think though, for that are No. I

1553
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: haven't been able to talk to him since O three

1554
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: Joe and Warwick, New York. It was a glorious Sunday.

1555
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the post game broadcast, but Paul and Mike,

1556
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 1: you left off the goodest of the goods from your list.

1557
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: The throwback uniforms reminded me of the Babe Parilli Steve

1558
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: Grogan days when there was no such thing as penciling

1559
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: in a win. Enjoy the victories, don't fret about the losses.

1560
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: Bring back the old uniform. I love it. Uh, you know,

1561
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my family hat on our second Paul.

1562
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: Paul's gonna make some noises, probably, but I just have

1563
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: to say that I really like the red and what

1564
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: I what I also was it wasn't expecting from watching them,

1565
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: was that it got rid of you. Just I just

1566
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: thought of the Patriots, like I didn't think Brady and

1567
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,560
Speaker 1: Bill checked the genius you can't do it anymore, Like

1568
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: all that stuff was just kind of out the window,

1569
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:23,560
Speaker 1: and I kind of just watched the Patriots game we

1570
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 1: had for so long but without I mean, I love

1571
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: the dominance, but it's hanging over our heads now forever

1572
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 1: and it always will be. And for a moment it

1573
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: was a nice reminder that all that wasn't hanging over

1574
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,600
Speaker 1: your head. There was a time when this was just

1575
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: a Patriots team that you just wanted to go see

1576
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: win a game, and that in nineteen ninety one, if

1577
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: they had done that, people would have been doing backflips

1578
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: in the stands, as they kind of were already. But

1579
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, just it just took some of that

1580
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: dynasty hanging over all that stuff out of it and

1581
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: just it was like, Hey, this is the Patriots again.

1582
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: This is the red Patriots that we all grew up loving,

1583
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: and we don't have to like think about you know,

1584
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 1: are we ever going to get back to six simpler times,

1585
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: simpler times when we stunk and we were just happy

1586
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: to in a game. Okay, all right, I didn't think

1587
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 1: about it that way, But now that you say it,

1588
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: I can understand. Back to the ACEH ticket outline, Todd's

1589
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. I hate Todd. Hey, guys, you know,

1590
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: I think I know what Paul is. We have a

1591
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: sports twitch in our family that we don't watch any

1592
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 1: sports with anymore because she just goes, oh, well, this

1593
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: is going to happen like this, and when we're watching

1594
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: our football team, she's gonnah, that's going to be a

1595
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: funnel coming up. Just watch and we just go duck

1596
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: and of course that wow. And that's what Paul's got.

1597
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: He's got that special power. I don't. I don't do that.

1598
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: I can just see it. Yeah, toil and trouble. Yeah,

1599
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't predictive powers, aren't I don't

1600
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: predict Yes, he just I tell you what what, Like

1601
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: I assess what happened after the play, like I don't

1602
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: need to watch it seventeen times. I can see what

1603
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: I would be annoying though. So I rewatched the game,

1604
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: and I noticed again that our favorite guy on our

1605
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: one tackle, he could have been called for three or

1606
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: four off sides easily or a feature I guess, because

1607
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: it's on the offense where he's moving before the ball snap.

1608
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 1: And he had a holding penalty that enough to drive

1609
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: out in the end of the first half. Too. I

1610
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: just what's wrong with it if he heard or something like,

1611
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 1: why is he just overreacting so badly when you're talking

1612
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: about a Yeah, yeah, this is another when Trent Brown

1613
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: did that previous week. I don't know. I thought Win

1614
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: had a pretty good game aside from the holding or yeah,

1615
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 1: I thought he was okay too. I saw Greg Bdard

1616
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: wrote that he had a tough game. He get allowed,

1617
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 1: Like they didn't allow hardly any pressures in the game.

1618
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: I think they only had like four, but he almost

1619
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: but he was like two and a half of them

1620
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 1: were on win. Like, I didn't notice breakdowns from when

1621
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: I thought the offensive line was pretty good breaking holes

1622
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: for the running game. Greg didn't. Greg thought they were

1623
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: terrible and they allowed way too many run stuffs in

1624
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: this game. And Stevenson overcame it like like I don't know, Yeah,

1625
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Win was you know, even a

1626
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: pro bowler on the left side, but he never I

1627
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: don't think he ever played right side in college and

1628
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: they threw them over there. So maybe there's an adjustment

1629
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 1: period for him on that side of the ball, you know,

1630
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 1: Like Bill said, like, not every guy can play both sides.

1631
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: It's it's everything all the time. Everything's reversed, you know,

1632
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: from them from your you know where you put your foot,

1633
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: where your plant, you know your hands. Um, it's all

1634
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,879
Speaker 1: the opposite way, and not every guy can make that adjustment,

1635
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 1: and he's been forced to do it. So you know,

1636
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. One quick question, um a boat to

1637
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: the play calling for the quarterbacks, how does it evolve, like,

1638
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: do you how do you add stuff to build up play?

1639
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: Is that being you know, does that be that level X?

1640
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: How do you get them up to the next level level? Why? Like,

1641
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: what are you going to add? What do you because

1642
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: you said it has been really simplified, but I thought

1643
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: they did a lot of play action, which I think

1644
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: is not well that that that's that necessarily making it

1645
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: more confessated. Yeah, that's as simplified as it gets. Yeah,

1646
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 1: run run, play action. Yeah, yeah, suck the linebackers up

1647
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: and yeah you should have. So it's just like the

1648
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: more they see, the more they'll be. Yeah, just watch

1649
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: the red zone. Yeah, how much do they let them throw?

1650
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 1: What are the play calls? Like when they get inside

1651
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: the you know, twenty five thirty yard line, did they

1652
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,919
Speaker 1: start to all of a sudden we're a little bit conservative.

1653
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: It feels like that's you know, or are we taking

1654
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: shots up the seam to the tight ends? Like you know,

1655
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: That's when I think you'll know they're they're putting a

1656
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: little more on his plate. Thanks Todd. Back to the

1657
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: emails at web radio at Patriots dot com David and

1658
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: Bethlehem Uh Patriots coaches do deserve praise. Please comment, I

1659
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: can't talk the teenage experiments with mac Jones. Deeper passes

1660
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: are over the calculus of x's and o's are trying

1661
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: to fly too close to the sun. Were halted longer.

1662
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: Routes of ten yard passes take a half tick longer

1663
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: than seven yard passes. Too much strain on the O line.

1664
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: How to counteract blitzes? Run create indecision? Forget Aghalore and Smith.

1665
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,959
Speaker 1: Let them earn playtime if they practice well. Steve Belichick

1666
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 1: and Gerard Mayo are truly cool, good coaches. The emphasis

1667
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: on beady linebackers and hybrid defensive backs with deep safety

1668
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: room are evidence of fine coaching. All right, Okay, let

1669
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: me ask you this. Okay, and now it's going to

1670
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: sound like I'm being defensive of the coach as well,

1671
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily mean it that way. But how

1672
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: many points do you think you'd like to see the

1673
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: offense scoring on a consistent page? Okay? But what would

1674
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 1: you accept twenty eight? Okay, the last two weeks they

1675
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: didn't even come close to that. It's like this whole

1676
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: like revamping of the offense, as like, you know, are

1677
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: we done with the fifty fifty balls. Now, are we

1678
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: done with trying to do different things? Can we just do? Yeah?

1679
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: You can't. You can absolutely keep doing it the way

1680
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: you did it last year and the way you've done

1681
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: it with Bailey Zappy and you won't score, just like

1682
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: you didn't score in Green Bay and you didn't score

1683
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Like you take the defensive scores out of

1684
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: the games, and it's different now. If you get a

1685
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: defensive score every week, anybody can win. That's a good

1686
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: way to win, getting a defensive score every week, right,

1687
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 1: Can you rely on that? It's not sustainable like they

1688
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they scored one offensive touchdown on Sunday? Are

1689
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 1: you gonna be happy with that most weeks? Right now?

1690
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled with it on Sunday because Bailey Zappy was

1691
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: playing and I, like you said earlier, Fred, I'm I'm

1692
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: grading with a curve like I'm not expecting him to

1693
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: go out and score forty. Yeah, but there are going

1694
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 1: to be times when you need that. You need the

1695
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: offense to not just kick a thirty five yard field goal.

1696
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 1: I need seven here, And I'm sorry. They scored seventeen

1697
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 1: points in Green Bay, and they scored twenty two on

1698
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: Sunday against the worst defense in football. That was two

1699
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: touchdowns less than Detroit normally allows. Right. Even Dan Campbell

1700
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: was talking after the game because I thought we made

1701
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: some strides today defensively, and now I know they played

1702
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 1: a third string quarterback. If they didn't make any strides

1703
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: that day, they ain't ever gonna Right, that's a bad defense, which,

1704
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: by the way, also lost five defensive backs along the way.

1705
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: How many field goals did Folk has? Five? Five? Like

1706
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 1: that'll get you beat a lot of times, right. We

1707
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: always say I'll trade touchdowns for field goals, right, Like,

1708
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: I just think that people are looking at things that

1709
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: happened in extrapolating, like, see, you don't have to throw

1710
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: fifty feet, you don't have to throw the ball down. Well,

1711
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: if you want to score, you do. If you want

1712
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: to if you want to put points on the board,

1713
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: you have to find a way to make plays. I'm

1714
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: not just avoid mistakes. Back to what I said earlier,

1715
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: I can't wait for Mac to come back. I'm with you, friend,

1716
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: and again I'm not trying to be overly like I've

1717
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: been telling you how great MACI is all along. I

1718
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: haven't been doing that but he's better than this kid. Yeah,

1719
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: and I would say too, Like, I just it's remarkable

1720
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 1: to me that people are writing and complaining about trying

1721
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: to push the ball down the field when you feel

1722
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 1: like the last few years, the problem with this offense

1723
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: is that everything you just said no chunk plays. And

1724
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: that's why Fred I go to your point of when

1725
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: Matt comes back, feels like they're getting Taekwon involved right now,

1726
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: like he seems like we drafted this kid second round.

1727
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: We want to get him downfield with that speed. This

1728
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: is a big part of what our new plan is

1729
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: going to be. So you know, how much is the

1730
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 1: deep game really getting aided right now or improving without

1731
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: Mac Like I just, I feel like somewhat that's been

1732
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: put on pause right now, and you know, when he

1733
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: gets back in then you're gonna so I don't know

1734
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: if they're progressing with that stuff. I know it's going

1735
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: to be kind of starting over with Taekwona and mac Win.

1736
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: And you know what, a couple of the big plays

1737
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: were in you know, throughout that game. Now I say

1738
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 1: big and relative chims because the Patriots were in control

1739
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: after the Judon Strip sack that led to Duggers scoop

1740
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: and score a touchdown. The game was over, right, but

1741
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,839
Speaker 1: a couple of big plays in that game was shots

1742
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: to Parker that resulted in interference penalties. I thought both

1743
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: of them were tiki tack calls, but they made them

1744
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: and that moved the ball down the field. Like, those

1745
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: are big Those are big plays in scoring drives. Yeah,

1746
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: because if you don't, like I know, everybody said, so,

1747
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: how do you feel if those two balls are completed

1748
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: instead of passing inferences? It is still like, you know,

1749
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: do you have to throw fifty Those are fifty fifty balls? Right?

1750
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: He a cooters right on Parker and he got called

1751
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: for an inference twice. That happens sometimes when you throw

1752
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 1: it down the field. Nathan in Belfast, Northern Ireland, having

1753
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: listened back to the postgame show on Monday, I'm with

1754
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: Mike on that that the Patriots need to resign. Resign Myers,

1755
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: just give him what he wants. At the start of

1756
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: the season it was um it was said that Mac

1757
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: needs a binkie. Myers has been that and was the

1758
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: same on Sunday. For ZAPPI give him what he wants

1759
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: and keep him on the team. He's been a productive

1760
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 1: He's had a productive season after season. Yeah, with all

1761
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks too, you know what I mean. It's just

1762
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: I love I love Myers, but so four years eighty

1763
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: five million? Oh no, no, So don't just give him

1764
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: what he wants, right, Okay, uh No, I'm just kidding.

1765
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't have any idea what he's gonna be worth

1766
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: on the open market, but I would absolutely, I would absolutely,

1767
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: um do what you can to resign him, provided that

1768
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, they have a medical here. He gets beat up.

1769
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: He missed two games with the knee. You know, I

1770
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: just worry about how long because he takes a lot

1771
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: of punishment cross in the middle all the time. But

1772
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: I just think he's so reliable, right, and that's that's

1773
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: so hard to find. I mean, that's what we say.

1774
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: Reliability is not just because I love him. Shady and Houston,

1775
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: thanks for the great show, excellent win and performance by

1776
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: the defense. On Sunday, I wanted to raise concern about

1777
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: the red zone offense, where we're tied for twenty eighth

1778
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: and TD percentage. According to a stat posted by Mike Reis,

1779
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: we've had six touchdowns from fifteen trips. How do you

1780
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: think the team can improve in that area, and how

1781
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 1: much do you think that improves when Mac returns. Yeah,

1782
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 1: it's a key, I mean, And also you're talking about

1783
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: six for fifteen, So this isn't like this giant you

1784
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: know seeing. I mean, this is kind of what you

1785
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: would expect with I mean, I admittedly disappointed with some

1786
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: of Max's performance in those early games in the red

1787
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: zones best specifically some of the turnovers that he made

1788
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: down there, but with you know, Bailey's app and Brian

1789
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Hoyer the last two games, Like, I just think this

1790
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: is what you're you're expecting. But I think absolutely it's

1791
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: a key if this team's going to make the playoffs.

1792
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 1: Red zone finding a way Connor Henry get him going touchdowns.

1793
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: They have to figure it out. Jesson Connecticut always listen

1794
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: to you guys at work and got my coworker to

1795
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: listen to you guys a little bit. He's convinced Zappi

1796
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: is the newcoming of Tom Brady and thinks Max should

1797
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: be benched and traded. It makes me laugh because of

1798
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: how blinded people are by Zappy. He did have a

1799
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 1: good week this week, and I was impressed by how

1800
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: he handled the situation. He was out in from the

1801
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 1: being third strength to starting. But there's no doubt in

1802
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: my mind Mac would have performed better in both the

1803
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 1: Packers game and the Lions game. Please talk some sense

1804
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: into my co worker. His obsession with Zappi is getting ridiculous.

1805
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 1: Is there any examples that he could cite, Like, I mean,

1806
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 1: we've seen every snap that Bailey Zappy's taken as a pro,

1807
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: and he's been great as far as being fine, Like

1808
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: he hasn't been as being fine Like that's a I

1809
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 1: expected out of him, you know. I just there's there's

1810
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, not a lot there that that makes you

1811
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: think that there is a plus NFL starter there that

1812
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: makes you think, old man, he's really good. He's gonna

1813
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 1: be able to throw the ball all over the field

1814
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: on teams. He's really athletic. I mean, he's he's a good,

1815
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 1: solid backup type quarterback. I just don't know the people

1816
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: that are on the Zappie hype train, like what like

1817
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: what what are the plays that are making you pound

1818
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: the table to say Matt couldn't do this or this

1819
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: was better than Mac would would do it. I don't

1820
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 1: see anything that what do you think? And I say

1821
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 1: this only half in jest. If his name was Bailey Smith,

1822
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: I think that I think that name has I think

1823
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: the name has something to do with it. I really

1824
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: I just think he's like the underdog. I think, you know,

1825
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: total Yeah, he looks like and he looks like it

1826
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: couldn't quite place it. But isn't that mac a little bit?

1827
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: Isn't supposed He's not as talented as the other He

1828
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: was rafted fifteen in the first round. You know, he's

1829
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 1: expected to be good. Somebody finally posted who's the kid

1830
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 1: from Hoosiers that looks just like, oh yeah, it's then

1831
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 1: that's like what it is? Right? You love that kid?

1832
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 1: Do you love that kid? Bill and Vista California, Um

1833
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: the firing or Matt rule and the rumors of possible

1834
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: trades immediately starting a Carolina. That being said, who are

1835
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 1: one offensive or one defensive player you would love to

1836
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: realistically trade from, you know, get from the Panthers, DJ

1837
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 1: More Christian McCaffrey. Well, what do you really want? You

1838
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:27,600
Speaker 1: have to give up a lot to get him? No,

1839
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: And he's always hurt and I can see like, and

1840
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: that's why the Bills reaching out to him. That makes

1841
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 1: sense to me, Like the same reason of von Miller,

1842
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: where you know you can afford to take a little

1843
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: bit of a chance because this guy might just make

1844
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: you absolutely unbeatable when it comes to the playoffs if

1845
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: he's healthy. But um, like, what do you think he's

1846
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 1: going to get? Yeah, McCaffrey, Yeah, it's not what he gets,

1847
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 1: it's what Carolina gets. No, that's what I'm asking you.

1848
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: What do you mean we don't want a first round

1849
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 1: pick for McCamy, wouldn't give a first round pick for

1850
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: him at this point? I don't know, man, Okay, it's

1851
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: a little dicey, but yeah, he's always hurt. He's hurt

1852
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 1: now right. I would wait to we drafted someone in

1853
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: the first round just so I could drive him to

1854
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: the airport and get it. I mean that. But you know,

1855
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: we would be healthy if he were a Patriot. Who

1856
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 1: are you worried about? Well, like he would be good

1857
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 1: in this offense, of course it would be. I mean

1858
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 1: he'd be good in Buffalo's offense, a team that he'd

1859
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: really be good in any offense. I mean he is

1860
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: good in every offense. He's good in Carolinas and they

1861
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: have no offense. Right, It's true. He's a good player. Yeah.

1862
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's a risk with the injuries he's

1863
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: he's been banked up, But I mean I would I

1864
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 1: would take a first round pick for him, Roger and

1865
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:40,600
Speaker 1: Saint Louis first thing. Nick Folk red jacket when this.

1866
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 1: But seriously, I think this was a much needed win.

1867
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: But cam Acords department will definitely make a costly mistake

1868
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: at a more important game later in the season. This

1869
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 1: is the third year in a row of uncharacteristically sloppy

1870
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: special teams under his watch, and I keep wondering what

1871
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: blackmail he has on the front office. Um, I'm gonna

1872
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 1: push back a little bit on that because the larger

1873
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: point is true. But back in twenty twenty, their special

1874
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: teams were really good. Yeah, they blocked all those kicks

1875
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: and yeah they Yeah, I think they had the uh

1876
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 1: maybe I might be confusing years, But didn't they have

1877
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 1: the year? It wasn't that the year that Gunner had

1878
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 1: like the punt returns against the Chargers Bowl A twenty

1879
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 1: twenty It was two years ago. Okay, Yeah, so I

1880
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: don't think they're special teams were a huge problem in

1881
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I wonder, you know, I might be confusion

1882
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,560
Speaker 1: the year, I might have been nineteen. Like you know,

1883
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 1: ouche pushing somebody after the whistle. That's a bad play.

1884
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 1: That's that's just a stupid play. That could happen on

1885
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 1: any play, not just special teams. But I wonder some

1886
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 1: of the coverage breakdowns and wonder if Matthew Slater is

1887
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: kind of seeing you know, the end. I wouldn't blame

1888
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,839
Speaker 1: it on Slater, but I don't know. Yeah. More importantly,

1889
01:33:55,920 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 1: I don't like it when Paul's right, but Stevenson's more explosive, right,

1890
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 1: Stevens is more explosive than Harris. But I would keep

1891
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 1: Harris to relieve some of Stevenson's workload. I think they

1892
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 1: compliment each other as well, and you don't want Stevenson

1893
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,639
Speaker 1: to be run down by the end of his rookie contract. Yeah.

1894
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a good email. I agree with. I

1895
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 1: think you can move to like to Stevenson without like

1896
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: shelving Harris. I think Harris is a really good player. Yeah,

1897
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: I just think Stevens is a little better. But I

1898
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,759
Speaker 1: like the idea of having both of those guys available

1899
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: to keep him around fifteen each. I mean, you know,

1900
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: talking about five that jump cut before he got hurt

1901
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: on the game, Harris had a beautiful shift that just

1902
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: left a defensive lineman on the ground. You know, yeah,

1903
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean I think you always need one two of

1904
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 1: those guys. I mean, what I was kind of finding

1905
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: myself thinking about was just the Corey Dillon year of

1906
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and four when and maybe you guys remember

1907
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: this better than I do, but that that seems like

1908
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 1: one of the last years where they really had like

1909
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 1: a main back and just a third down guys, right, Like,

1910
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just kind of two guys as

1911
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: opposed to three at least that they usually seem to

1912
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: have run with since like you know, Falk and then Woodhead,

1913
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: et cetera. Yeah, they usually have two runners in a

1914
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: third down guy. In that year, it was just Dylan

1915
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 1: and a third down guy with Falk. But you know,

1916
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 1: I think the next wasn't it the next year or

1917
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 1: was it two years? The Maroni pick two years two

1918
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 1: thousand and six six? Many? Yeah, So, like Bill clearly

1919
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: wasn't really comfortable with it. And then you know, much

1920
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: like happens a lot, you give a guy like that

1921
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 1: the contract and he's no longer as committed. And Dylan

1922
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 1: had was really a one hit wonder. He was great No.

1923
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: Four and didn't really do much for year when O five,

1924
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 1: It's like it's more of a philosophical question. I guess

1925
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: if just you see the outlandish production that Stevenson had

1926
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 1: in that game, and like, you know, one hand, you say, well,

1927
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: why can't we get that? I know you can't get

1928
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: it out of him every game, but you know, like,

1929
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: why can't we give him twenty twenty five carries a game?

1930
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: And you know, would he still be able to have

1931
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: that production? What's the best thing for the team though?

1932
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: You know, is it balancing the carries and then making

1933
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 1: sure when you get to the playoffs, which of horse

1934
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: is most important that those guys are fresh, or is

1935
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: it you could have a guy on your hands that

1936
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: could be you know, it just it's hard for me

1937
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 1: to imagine a running back coming here of any style

1938
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 1: or whatever and setting like the rushing record just by

1939
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: how they play. And I don't know if that's necessarily

1940
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 1: a bad thing. That might be just well, we're not

1941
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: going to run our guy into the ground and then

1942
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 1: we get into the playoffs and he's already tired. Um,

1943
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: it's just hard to look at that production that Stevenson

1944
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 1: had and be like, can we get that every week?

1945
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: You know how or even if it is two guys,

1946
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, how can we how can we get that

1947
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 1: kind of productive production consistently? But just interesting how they

1948
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 1: how they kind of appeared. I like the you know,

1949
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 1: the idea of keeping them fresh. If I didn't have

1950
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: to worry about the you know that aspect, I would

1951
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: rather have one guy. But I think it's impossible to say, well,

1952
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give all the carries to one guy

1953
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: and he's going to be fine in the playoffs and

1954
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: the and from the player's perspective, I mean, you know,

1955
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 1: like I know, you know, high school backs or everybody

1956
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 1: wants the ball, but like, you know, in an NFL back,

1957
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 1: do you think if you really asked Damien Harris or

1958
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 1: Romanda Stevenson, would you rather have fifteen, you know, ten

1959
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 1: to ten to fifteen a game or would you rather

1960
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 1: just consistently you're getting twenty five and you're gonna get

1961
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 1: beat up, but you know you're getting the ball at time.

1962
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: And my guess is they'd both say twenty five Cody

1963
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 1: and don't want that opportunity to put up the huge

1964
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 1: numbers Cody in Indiana. For years we talked about how

1965
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: challenging it was for young receivers to come in and

1966
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: earn Brady's trust and grow into a role. One or

1967
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 1: two wrong roots or a drop ball, and Brady would

1968
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 1: just be done with you. Jakobe Myers has grown into

1969
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: a good, solid NFL receiver, and I'm just wondering if

1970
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 1: you'd think, um, he would still have developed into that

1971
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 1: kind of player if Tom were still around quicker. Yeah. Yeah,

1972
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I think you saw Tom Brady

1973
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 1: throw the ball to him that one year they played

1974
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: together more often than he normally would so to a rookie,

1975
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: untested guy, yea, he would have been even better. Yeah. Um.

1976
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 1: Matt from Santan Valley, Arizona, Santan Valley. I have a

1977
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: statement and a question for everyone missing as a game.

1978
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 1: I gotta say that Bill Belichick can actually draft. The

1979
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: last two Patriots draft classes have produced quality starters and contributors.

1980
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: Between Mac barm Or, Romandre Strange, the Jones brothers, they

1981
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 1: have the foundation for the next Patriots dynasty. Now my

1982
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: question is can we accurately define what roughing the passer is.

1983
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 1: It's getting to the point where defenders aren't even allowed

1984
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 1: to breathe on quarterbacks anymore. I was like, we're talking

1985
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 1: about last night, what do you do? They gotta maybe

1986
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 1: put some dresses on the guys in like the competition

1987
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 1: committee that that's not going to play well. Oh, I know,

1988
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 1: he was getting beat up pretty good on Twitter. Girl,

1989
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: Come on, Alex and Raleigh a big fan of the show,

1990
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 1: thought the Patriots were dominant on Sunday. I hope they

1991
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 1: start to rattle off some wins going forward, and I

1992
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 1: think this team could be competitive this year. Judean has

1993
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 1: been dominant and is tied as SACO leader with Parsons

1994
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,600
Speaker 1: and Crosby. Do you guys think jude you keep this

1995
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 1: level of play consistent this year and not have the

1996
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 1: drop off like he did last year. One thing that

1997
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 1: I have noticed is that he hasn't seemed to be

1998
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: on the field every play, which I think is a

1999
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: direct since another one of those things. Don't look it up.

2000
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 1: It only ruins my point Mike's looking it up. Of course,

2001
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 1: that might have had something to do with it blow out,

2002
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It just seems like he's been

2003
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: coming the field, don't you think? Yep? More so, and

2004
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: you're getting some to Vay at the edge, You're getting

2005
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 1: some Jennings at the edge, You're getting some Bentley at

2006
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 1: the edge. And I gotta think there's at least uh

2007
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 1: partially with in mind like trying to keep him. He

2008
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 1: looks in healthier and fresher. He looks in real good

2009
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: shape to me, though, like I I, it feels to

2010
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 1: me I maybe have to go back and look at

2011
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: what he looked like, but just it stands out to

2012
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 1: me like he just seems like he's got burst start

2013
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 1: to finish and and like I mentioned, I think last week,

2014
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 1: like just that closing speed, like he when he gets close,

2015
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: he finishes, and he's he's been outstanding. Russell and Arkansas.

2016
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 1: Everyone has said how taekwon th doesn't have enough sand

2017
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 1: and his parents or bumper and his dumper rocks in

2018
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:07,679
Speaker 1: his pockets. I have to say he's somewhat comparable in size,

2019
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 1: not talent yet to DeVante Smith and Fred's guy Justin Jefferson.

2020
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 1: Would you guys agree DeVante Smith, Yes, not necessarily Justin Jefferson,

2021
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 1: but you could look those up and they could be

2022
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 1: exactly the same in terms of height and weight. I'm

2023
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 1: just telling is definitely smaller, but he's tiny. Yeah. When

2024
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 1: I watched Justin Jefferson, I never think small though, when

2025
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 1: I watched Taekwon Thornton and Deane Smith, Yeah that's what

2026
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: I'm taller, but the same kind of thing. Yeah, let's

2027
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 1: see what else we got. But Smith, definitely Smith. Remember

2028
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 1: he was like one hundred and seventy five pounds or

2029
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, coming out he looks good this year.

2030
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: Um Barton Poland writes in Bob, what a great team win.

2031
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 1: Especially impressed by our d line minus some big runs

2032
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: given up against a top five old line in the league,

2033
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 1: with Judon getting a sack each off of both of

2034
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 1: the Lions tackles, one of the best duos in the league.

2035
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 1: Also very impressed by Zappie's ability to extend the play

2036
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 1: and stay calm, especially the play against Hutchinson. I also

2037
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: love the video podcast and I have a question is

2038
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 1: there a schedule of them coming out because the two

2039
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:18,640
Speaker 1: video podcasts that we had this season, we're both the

2040
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: Thursdays before a home game. Um, is it coincidence or

2041
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 1: if that's what's going to be for the rest of

2042
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 1: the way, it's a coincidence probably, So I want to

2043
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 1: give a homework assignment to that emailer, Can you please

2044
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 1: email us back and we'll read it tomorrow. Why you

2045
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: think that those shows are better? Why do you like them?

2046
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 1: Why that's what you're saying. Why do you well, yeah,

2047
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 1: why do you like? Why do you think they're better?

2048
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: Why do you like? Because the video? Once? I'm just curious,

2049
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Like you're listening to our podcast? What about just seeing

2050
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 1: it makes it better? Right? Yeah? See the little the

2051
01:41:57,160 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: little eyebroweries isn't a little yeah cleans and such? Yeah? See,

2052
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 1: I I think that if you're gonna do the video,

2053
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 1: we got to add stuff to it. You know, we've

2054
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 1: needed somebody in the back listening to what we're saying

2055
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 1: and maybe throwing up some b roll, you know, maybe

2056
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: doing what we call the l bar, we call it tagboard,

2057
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, with some the phone number and maybe some

2058
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 1: facts or you know who's calling things like that. You know,

2059
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:24,839
Speaker 1: there's gotta be some to me, there's gotta be production

2060
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 1: value put into it to make it worth doing. You know,

2061
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: I agree you're gonna do it otherwise like you're just

2062
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: listening to us. Yeah, you know, I have a lot

2063
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: of options. You could see Fred rolling his eyes at me.

2064
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean, so you know, right now we're doing our

2065
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 1: show and ninety eight point five assignmulcasting and you know

2066
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: it's just them, but but there's a big difference. It's

2067
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 1: on TV and there's advertising and that's why. But they

2068
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 1: also do a lot of it. What you're talking they'll

2069
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: put they'll put what's up there with stats of things

2070
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: that they're talking about. Do some still shots that they

2071
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: can't do b roll they're not allow to, right, but

2072
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 1: but they'll do still but they'll do still shots, like

2073
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: they'll have a picture of like Chris they were talking

2074
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,679
Speaker 1: earlier about the roughing the patch. They had Chris Jones

2075
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 1: like with the ball in his hand as he's coming

2076
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 1: down on Derek Carr last night. You know, like there's

2077
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: something to see as opposed to just talking heads. I say,

2078
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 1: the guys that whoever does the pre and postgame show

2079
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 1: does an outstanding job, but especially the postgame show when

2080
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 1: we're talking about stuff and they are like bad our

2081
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 1: highlights and right, right, but we're yeah, but again, we're

2082
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:27,839
Speaker 1: allowed to do that, right, Yeah, is that just Patriots

2083
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 1: dot Com is allowed to Yeah, we're allowed to do

2084
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: and we'd be allowed to do it on this show too.

2085
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's a little bit of draw you know,

2086
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 1: so it is, but you know, now, okay, so you've

2087
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: got to have somebody back there with the show prep

2088
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 1: all of us. Yeah I didn't say that guy, So yeah,

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01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 1: So I think that's a good homework assignment. Tell us

2090
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 1: why what might you like to see? Like if there

2091
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: are other elements and think ahead like after the initial

2092
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, right, because I'm not sure that we're able

2093
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:58,600
Speaker 1: to do all the things that we think that we

2094
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: should do, like two weeks you know, if every show

2095
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 1: was video, you know, two three weeks from now, would

2096
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 1: you still be like interested in doing it? I could

2097
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 1: see the guy saying that they were right? Or is

2098
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 1: it more much? Or is it more a novelty too much?

2099
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 1: You know? Old guys get out of here. Now. I

2100
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 1: know a lot of other teams, you know, they do

2101
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 1: their similar shows like that with video, but our numbers

2102
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 1: dwarf them. So who's doing it better? Wow, there's only

2103
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: one World's original podcast podcast I know. In all seriousness,

2104
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 1: I just i'd like to hear, like, what what's the

2105
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: attraction of just seeing instead of just hearing? Well, it's

2106
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 1: just Mike sex appearance. It could be right. I mean

2107
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,679
Speaker 1: it could be out there my ladies. You know, people

2108
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 1: just like seeing that middle aged dad, you know, thanks, yeah, guilty.

2109
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 1: I want to see that dad bought stand up. I

2110
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 1: don't think they want to see that. Connor Joseph Gourley

2111
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 1: writes in Connor Joseph, I'm not listening live, so I

2112
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 1: apologize if this was mentioned already, But in reference to

2113
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 1: the Dan Campbell conversation from the postgame show, there was

2114
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 1: about a twenty to thirty second clip on the Fox

2115
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: broadcast of him fumbling with his play sheet, trying to

2116
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 1: fold it or rearrange it or something, and it seemed

2117
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 1: like a perfect representation of his tenure as head coach.

2118
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but laughing and feeling bad for the

2119
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: guy at the same time because it was probably nothing

2120
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: but just unfortunate timing. I'll tell you one thing about

2121
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: this win. It allowed pages fans to go back to

2122
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 1: do what they do best and rip the other coaching

2123
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 1: staff like we're smart and they're stupid. You know, that's like,

2124
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 1: that's just the fans doing it. That's a twenty year

2125
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 1: old habit that we got into, which was nice to

2126
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: get back to. Yeah, I felt bad only for one thing. Like,

2127
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: you guys know what I think of Dan Campbell as

2128
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 1: a coach, Like he seems like a hell of a

2129
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 1: nice guy. But I don't think he even knows how

2130
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 1: to spell x or rot. I don't think he's very

2131
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: good at that stuff. I just like the whole fourth

2132
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 1: Downd thing. He went for a fourth thound in the

2133
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 1: first half that he absolutely would not have on fourth

2134
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 1: and nine, Right, fourth and nine is not a it's

2135
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 1: not a green light. You gotta kick the field goal

2136
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 1: and make it six to three. By missing that, he

2137
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 1: then had to do what he did the rest of

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01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: the day. He had to go chasing the next time

2139
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 1: they got the ball in the second half, they were

2140
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 1: down three scores. Field goals aren't going to get you

2141
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 1: back in the game, so they could have lost twenty

2142
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 1: nine to twelve. Would you feel better about it? Right?

2143
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Yeah, Like, what else was he gonna do?

2144
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: But I had like one text after the next Ooh,

2145
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:29,639
Speaker 1: how's the gritty tough coach doing now? Like had nothing

2146
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 1: to do with grit on toughness. He made a bad

2147
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: decision early in the game, and because of that he

2148
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 1: ended up having to do everything else. In the second half. Right,

2149
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 1: Like I like I said, I think he's a terrible coach.

2150
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:42,959
Speaker 1: Seems like a hell of a nice guy, good motivator

2151
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 1: and all that, but I don't think he knows how

2152
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 1: to prepare a team to play. James Pettigrew, the most

2153
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 1: interesting Patriots fan of the world, writes in Bailey Zappi

2154
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 1: or Jonas Gray? Oh come on, I don't even know

2155
01:46:57,320 --> 01:47:01,719
Speaker 1: what he means by that. In terms of talent, he'd

2156
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 1: probably going Jonas Great right game, I screwed on exactly. Yeah,

2157
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, notre Dame like he just he was just

2158
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 1: a screw up. He really was. He couldn't you know,

2159
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 1: you talk about professionalism, He couldn't do what he needed

2160
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 1: to do to be a professional. Right um, Bill and Albuquerque.

2161
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not on the Zappy train. But is he

2162
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:30,759
Speaker 1: right now better than any other starting quarterback in the league?

2163
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 1: Oh so, I know I get what he's saying. He

2164
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 1: is there other quarterbacks who Well, you did a good

2165
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 1: job at deciphering that because I was still clueless. I

2166
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 1: get what he means. Is he not the worst quarterback

2167
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 1: in the league? Yeah? No, Skyler Thompson is right there

2168
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:50,599
Speaker 1: with him. Rookie seventh round, seventh round pick from Miami.

2169
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 1: Um Justin Fields doesn't even he's not even allowed to

2170
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 1: look at the field. Don't you look at that. I

2171
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 1: don't want you looking at them when you're when you're playing.

2172
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, I mean, he's how many on

2173
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:03,640
Speaker 1: the bottom and I don't know what his numbers are.

2174
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 1: His numbers are probably outstanding. Yeah, like in terms of

2175
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,600
Speaker 1: the you know, the I don't feel about that. I

2176
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 1: mean his rating, I mean his stats, not what they

2177
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 1: interpret as what he should have done. Like, but yeah,

2178
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 1: this quarterbacks that I mean, Baker Mayfield has been terrible.

2179
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: Yeah right. I mean it's funny because I mean there's

2180
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are definitely better than him, but that are stupider,

2181
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 1: that make mistakes, like you know, like like, yeah, they're

2182
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 1: gonna like Jamis Winston's gonna probably throw you a few touchdowns.

2183
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:36,560
Speaker 1: We've probably gonna throw a few picks too. But to me,

2184
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 1: the apples to apples remains what happens when he has

2185
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 1: to play an actual game as opposed to where we're

2186
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 1: gonna lead start to finish, our defense is going to

2187
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 1: pitch a shout out and we're just gonna run for

2188
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 1: two hundred yards today, Like what happens when it's not

2189
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, that's what I found that. That's like

2190
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 1: my bigger question about the Patriots, Like, you know, when

2191
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 1: when are we gonna get a game that just looks like, man,

2192
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 1: they ain't got it today. This team is rolling first

2193
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 1: half and well we got to touchdown a second. Oh

2194
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 1: another time, I was coming back. Oh, you know, I

2195
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 1: was really insted with the win on Sunday, and that's

2196
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: why in the postgame show I was no. I was like,

2197
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't think there were any asterisks. No, but in

2198
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:15,639
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of in the grand scheme of the season,

2199
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 1: I would say, I know they can win that game.

2200
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 1: I've seen them win that game. Now, well I'm twelve

2201
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: times you know, like I said, they win all their

2202
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 1: games with the same pattern. I was just, you know,

2203
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 1: the same way I'm impressed with the Browns. I was

2204
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 1: impressed with the Patriots yesterday and that they ran when

2205
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 1: the other team knew they wanted to run. Eventually, they're

2206
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 1: going to meet a team that can stop the run,

2207
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:39,839
Speaker 1: you know, and then what happens that's going to adjust

2208
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 1: to whatever they've got, you know, hopefully by then Max back.

2209
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying stopping the run. I'm saying you

2210
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: fall behind and can't run like Miami. Miami didn't really

2211
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 1: stop the run earlier in the game. I thought the

2212
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 1: Patriots ran the ball well yeah, but then they got

2213
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 1: behind and they couldn't run as much as they wanted

2214
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 1: to in the second half, right, And I think that's

2215
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:01,600
Speaker 1: why this game resonated though for me, is that I

2216
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: think I was starting to question if they could still

2217
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,679
Speaker 1: win games like that with a third string quarterback. Where

2218
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: all right, this is a bat like you know, we

2219
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 1: knew coming in this think they were going to lose.

2220
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 1: This question a little bit when you saw those reds,

2221
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 1: when you saw they we have to appear on seventeen

2222
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 1: shows every week. I know he didn't pick the Patriots

2223
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 1: to lose, but but it was but it was close game,

2224
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 1: you know. I mean I think I, like, not like

2225
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 1: I had Patriots just gonna roll. This is ridiculous. And

2226
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't even think what with the Patriots favorite in

2227
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 1: this game by three yeah, three and a half, and

2228
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 1: I think I picked them to not cover I believe

2229
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 1: yet you are right, yeah, uh as usual Pauli's write

2230
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:44,640
Speaker 1: says Chris with A T I A n Oh, come on,

2231
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 1: just pour him on, pour him on in You're gonna

2232
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 1: get it. He's gonna get ahead. But I don't know

2233
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 1: what he means by this if Zappi's If Zapper's last

2234
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,639
Speaker 1: was playing, the fever would be much less. I think.

2235
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 1: I don't know what. If Zappy wasn't his last name,

2236
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 1: the fever would be much less. Last names that hard

2237
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 1: to but it says playing PLA I N anyway, however,

2238
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:09,679
Speaker 1: anything for me. I figured it out. However, I'm enjoying

2239
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 1: the hype. Chris Burman last night on the Fastest Three

2240
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 1: Minutes and Highlights said, what's the saying in Foxborough Zappy Hour?

2241
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: PS need more changes than on one of my headlines today.

2242
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:22,600
Speaker 1: PS need more junior perilla on the show. I know

2243
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 1: that kid has plenty of zero to hot Paul stories. Yeah, yeah,

2244
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: not so much with him. The other one would would

2245
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 1: sell me out. Will would sell that. We would have

2246
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 1: to drag him out here at two Will t TJ

2247
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 1: would still worry about and then TJ would still worry

2248
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 1: about it if I was really mad about it, whereas

2249
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 1: Will would be like, I don't really get it. Crop

2250
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 1: if he thinks I'm mad at uh Andy in the

2251
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 1: district says this is about the Raiders game last night.

2252
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 1: Watching the game last night, I was dying to hear

2253
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 1: what Paul thought of. The decision to go for two

2254
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 1: makes little sense to me. Down one with over four

2255
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 1: minutes to go. If you succeed on either the kick

2256
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 1: or the conversion, Mahomes had the ball going for a

2257
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: field goal for the win, pretty doable. Chiefs likely to

2258
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: score again if you fail on either, Mahomes can just

2259
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 1: run out the clock on a one point victory. What's

2260
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 1: the thinking? Did Josh think his offense had no shot

2261
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 1: of scoring again forced the Chiefs to go for a

2262
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,599
Speaker 1: TV rather than risk giving it back for a walkoff

2263
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 1: Las Vegas field goal rooting for Josh. But yikes, Now

2264
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 1: I actually liked it, And the reason is I feel like,

2265
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: if you get it, obviously you forced Kansas City to

2266
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 1: go down and score while trailing, as opposed to in

2267
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 1: a tie game, which I think is much less. Much

2268
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 1: like Buffalo in Baltimore a couple of weeks ago, It's

2269
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 1: much easier to me in a tie game to go

2270
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 1: down and get the necessary points to win. Then if

2271
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 1: you're losing, so I think that ups the pressure. I

2272
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,800
Speaker 1: agree there was probably a high likelihood that Kansas City

2273
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 1: would have gone down to score. But the reason why

2274
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: I liked the decision is because if you don't get it,

2275
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:00,679
Speaker 1: there's still four and a half minute left, you play

2276
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 1: defense and have a chance to get the ball back.

2277
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 1: And now I think you have chances of stopping Kansas City.

2278
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 1: You're much greater while trailing than they would be if

2279
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 1: you were tied or winning, because Kansas City obviously isn't

2280
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 1: going forward on fourth down. They're not recklessly trying to

2281
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:20,280
Speaker 1: get in scoring position. And sure enough they stopped him

2282
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,600
Speaker 1: and had plenty of time, and had Hunter Renfro not

2283
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 1: torn Davante Adams as acl for some unknown reason just

2284
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 1: diving into him, I think they might have had a

2285
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 1: chance on that last Adams mad Did you see him

2286
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 1: push the photographer? Yeah, if you think you'll get suspended

2287
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 1: for that, you should. Yeah. I think there's a chance

2288
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 1: they fired the guy filed the lawsuit. I think here,

2289
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 1: well that's that. Like, I gotta be honest with you,

2290
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 1: I think it was all the guy's fault. Oh yeah,

2291
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 1: the guy just blatantly walked right in front of him

2292
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 1: and he knew exactly what he was doing, and that's

2293
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 1: why I don't think there's any chance that I wonder

2294
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 1: if he's even a little I wonder if the guy

2295
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 1: worked for the Raiders like he pushed his own. You know. Anyway, quick,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Fred, I think he should get

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Speaker 1: at the very least a really big fine. But I

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Speaker 1: think you should get suspended. Yeah, um, quick, game of

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Speaker 1: who is he? Um? They're all Patriots to end the show. Um,

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Speaker 1: and this guy the way he did the last one

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Speaker 1: is a giveaway. So um, if if we get to

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Speaker 1: three year, you should get it. But anyway, First one,

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Speaker 1: I served as an adjunct professor for two years at

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Speaker 1: Suffolk University. Lawyer. I didn't know this, I jumped so okay.

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Speaker 1: Second one, I was a mainstay on the second level

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Speaker 1: of defense for ten years. And then you should all

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Speaker 1: get the last one. I was a second round pick

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Speaker 1: out of Colorado Ted Johnson. I didn't know he was

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Speaker 1: an ad jump professor. I didn't either out I didn't either.

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Speaker 1: Next one, I served as the OC for the Texas

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Speaker 1: Revolution of the champions Indoor Football League. I've never heard

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Speaker 1: of that before. No, though, I caught Tom Brady's first

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Speaker 1: NFL pass, he did not receive a Super Bowl ring

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Speaker 1: due to off field issues. Well, the person. This person

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Speaker 1: didn't get a Super Bowl ring due to off field issues.

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Speaker 1: I mean I thought Rod Rutledge caught Pee Brady's first

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Speaker 1: NFL pass. Oh, I'm sorry first NFL touchdown pass. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Terry Terry, Terry Glenn yep. Yeah, um. I was a

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Speaker 1: six time pro bowler and my number is retired by

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Speaker 1: the team. Six time Pro bowler number retired by the team.

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Speaker 1: I played two hundred and twelve games, which was the

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Speaker 1: team record until Brady broke it in twenty fifteen. Julius Adams, No,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Armstrong. Bruce Armstrong is right, you broke a rule, Bule.

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Speaker 1: I'll go to box and feel shame. Last anymore. I'll

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Speaker 1: set this one up last one. I received a ton

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Speaker 1: of accolades, including two All pros, nine Pro Bowls, and

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Speaker 1: was Defensive Rookie of the Year in nineteen seventy six. Yes, Paul, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I have to sit it out. Yeah. Mike Canes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mike Canes. Mike Canes is correct, all right, Maybe I

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Speaker 1: can take one more email? Okay, Audrey from New Hampshire

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Speaker 1: on our video question. I can tell you why the

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Speaker 1: I will tune in. I enjoy the show either way.

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Speaker 1: But you should realize PEU is unique and the family

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Speaker 1: you know. Perfect example, getting to see Paul's kid our

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Speaker 1: saw you guys in person, and you're not as fat

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Speaker 1: as I thought. Well, Freddy, you're not going to get

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Speaker 1: that anymore like wasting a way over. Let's go give

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Speaker 1: me a minute. Unfortunately, they still say it to me.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's fat as just they say. Now, Andy used to

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition of

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow. As we turned the

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Speaker 1: page to the Cleveland Browns, Uh, talk to you then,

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