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Speaker 2: The World's of Vigeonal podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: They're picking in the bottom fourteen somewhere, so they picking

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Speaker 4: the second half of the round. That that's what we're

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Speaker 4: talking about. Nine and eight. You said that was the

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Speaker 4: biggest difference for the Detroit or that's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Eight does get you in the top handers? Who picked

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Speaker 4: what twenty eighth, twenty ninth in the first round.

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Speaker 5: You can't just draft at the bottom of the first

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Speaker 5: round and expect to find the pillars of your organization

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Speaker 5: down there. That's not how going to happen. Like I

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Speaker 5: look at this stuff every single year, like for six months.

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Speaker 5: You're not going to just find, you know, Penny sewel

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Speaker 5: at thirty two overall, Like, that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 4: We have just did a Belichick and you're leaving fourth

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Speaker 4: and one.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna walk to the press coverage is mumbling to himself, muttering.

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Speaker 3: Justin writes in Evan's gonna go home tonight, walk in

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Speaker 3: with his arms crossed and comically PLoP on his couch

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Speaker 3: at frustration. Jess is gonna ask him bad day at work,

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Speaker 3: and Evan's gonna mutter pull doesn't no ball? It makes

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Speaker 3: me mad, doesn't He doesn't respect the draft.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 3: That's fat.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 3: at Jillette Stadium, and uh, it's always a big day

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Speaker 3: for us. It's Evan, it's Paul, me, Deuce, Alex on

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Speaker 3: the panel, Matt in the booth, and we're talking Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: I think we talked extensively about them yesterday. Uh you know, Uh,

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Speaker 3: we'll continue talking about them today. Evan's back you okay, No, no,

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Speaker 3: we had a lot of reaction to that.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you do. When I wasn't here to defend

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Speaker 5: my honor, merged your honor?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, were killing you? You know because after the

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Speaker 3: live shooting, people watch, understand, and so we get a

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Speaker 3: lot of reactions show and a lot of emails wondering

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Speaker 3: about your wellness.

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Speaker 5: Well I did. That's my job is to incite what feedback.

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Speaker 3: So it was all a work.

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Speaker 5: No, it wasn't a work, okay, but you know, like

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Speaker 5: if good radio means that we we got people listening,

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Speaker 5: we got people reacted.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 7: This is why Christian La adds a lot to the

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Speaker 7: show for all the people.

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Speaker 3: That I wouldn't say that he started it.

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Speaker 8: No, but that email that was just read in the

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Speaker 8: intro about Evan going home like to Jess later that

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Speaker 8: night is funny because I was in the Verable press

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Speaker 8: conference and listening into the show and Evan sat down

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Speaker 7: And that's kind of how the conversation.

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Speaker 1: We just are good.

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Speaker 5: We just are gonna draft at the bottom of the

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Speaker 5: draft every year, and we're going to find star players somehow.

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Speaker 5: With Tom Brady already here.

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Speaker 4: I say, I will absolutely sign up to be drafting

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Speaker 4: at the bottom of the round every year. I will

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Speaker 4: sign up for that now for the next ten years.

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Speaker 4: Right means correct, I will take down How do you

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Speaker 4: get good?

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Speaker 1: You already are if you're drafting to come out of.

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Speaker 3: The All right, never mind.

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Speaker 4: The underrated thing is this was more fred Evan Paul.

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Speaker 5: Who would you rather be for the next five years?

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Speaker 5: The Patriots are the Commanders right now the Patriots enough said.

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Speaker 1: Just because, well what is that?

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Speaker 4: I think it's very similar.

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Speaker 3: They both drafted at the top, so they both like they.

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Speaker 4: Hit on the quarterback. So now it's like, what do

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Speaker 5: In the Patriots then again drafted at the top. Again,

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Speaker 5: the Commanders went to the NFC Championship game on fools old,

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Speaker 5: and now the Patriots have Will Campbell on their roster

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Speaker 5: as a result. This is all I was saying. I

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Speaker 5: want to build a sustainable winner. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: So how long and watch it? How long? How long?

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Speaker 3: How long do you have to be have a losing

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Speaker 5: The Patriots did it? They long they are need to

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Speaker 5: be a loser. I don't know, two three years and

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Speaker 5: then what keep drafting and draft?

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Speaker 3: Well, right, but after those two or three years, what happens?

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Speaker 5: You have a sustained foundation that you can build up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you can build that foundation in two or

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Speaker 5: I think so. I mean, I don't know if the

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Speaker 5: Patriots did it on purpose. I'm trying to give the

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Speaker 5: and I don't know if they did it right on purpose.

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Speaker 3: They weren't trying to lose. A lot of people wish

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Speaker 3: they were two years ago, two years ago. Last year,

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Speaker 4: Say with you, friend, I don't don't think they lost

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Speaker 5: Like I don't think they lost on purpose. I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be I don't want to like

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Speaker 3: snob you, but you don't sound like someone who played

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Speaker 3: really competitive sports. What does that have to do with anything,

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Speaker 3: because I just these guys don't want to lose.

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Speaker 5: I just said from the coach down, they didn't tank, Fred,

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Speaker 5: What do you mean, I didn't play what level of sports?

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Speaker 4: Did you play?

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Speaker 3: A very high level?

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Speaker 4: All individual sports?

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 5: Jesus, I know they didn't tank last year. I don't

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Speaker 5: think that the Patriots and Drake May went out there

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Speaker 5: and purposely tried to lose every single week. But the

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Speaker 5: way that they ran their organization last year from a

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Speaker 3: Agent that has nothing.

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Speaker 5: That's what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: That's a whole difference.

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Speaker 5: So do you think that that roster last year was

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Speaker 3: Listen. Reportedly, Stephen Ross asked his coach Brian Flores the tank,

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Speaker 5: We're not talking about that. We're not saying No one's

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Speaker 5: saying that they purposely went out there to try to

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Speaker 3: But teams purposely go out there and try to win.

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Speaker 5: Obviously. Yeah, but you build a team and you know

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Speaker 3: Basically, you're saying, you try to win, but you hope

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Speaker 5: I'm saying that I think that they might have quiet

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Speaker 3: Listen. Okay, well I don't think that. Yeah, well, we'll

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Speaker 3: You live in April. I'll live from September to December.

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Speaker 4: I think there was a little of that that went

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Speaker 4: But I don't think that they did that last year.

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Speaker 4: I think Girodmeo came in with the intention of, you know,

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Speaker 4: But I don't I don't think that they set the

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Speaker 5: You don't think that that roster was set up to lose.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it was a good roster. I don't

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Speaker 4: think it was an intentional That's a big difference. I

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess we can sit there and say that

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Speaker 5: it wasn't fully intentional, and we can take like we

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Speaker 5: at that roster last year. I think it is kind

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Speaker 3: But I don't think that I think they knew what

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Speaker 4: And they knew they weren't a title contender or anything.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think that they intended to win four games. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't think they could.

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Speaker 3: Get into this right like this right away. Well, I

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Speaker 11: I'm a little uncomfortable yelling. It's loud noises and I don't.

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Speaker 3: Like my brothers are fighting, and I'm well, how is it?

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Speaker 11: I mean my feeling is that as four people yell

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Speaker 3: Okay, as you know what I mean. What's your take

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Speaker 11: Yeah, dude, give us your time with you guys, but

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Speaker 11: I don't want to go up you can.

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Speaker 5: Get because I think you guys are moving the goalposts

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Speaker 5: on it, which is when I get annoyed, like like,

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Speaker 5: think that the Patriots purposely go out ever or any

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Speaker 5: I don't think the Patriots should do that at any

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Speaker 5: a sustained winner in this league, then doing it one

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Speaker 5: year with a good free agency class. We've seen this

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Speaker 5: they have one year where they get a shot in

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Speaker 3: And I agree with that totally. I also agree you

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Speaker 5: Not to draft good players, but if you don't already

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Speaker 5: have good players on your roster, if you don't have

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Speaker 5: be able to just pick like Dan Copen, like I know,

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Speaker 5: you also.

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Speaker 3: Don't hope not to win so that you can't draft tie.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Commanders would do anything to give

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they could go hang their banner champions again.

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Speaker 4: This is this is just that's the crux of what

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Speaker 4: I disgoyed, right.

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Speaker 3: That as you're coming off like a cold draft knick,

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Speaker 5: Coming off like Felger who just.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I hope I'm coming off like someone who

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Speaker 3: wants to compete and win. That's the point of playing

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Speaker 3: these games.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well we're talking about this off fair at all,

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Speaker 3: Yes, I like it, It's fine, all right, all right?

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Speaker 4: But it looks like Hawkins will be back and probably

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Speaker 4: if Woodson will see today. You know, I think if

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Speaker 5: Yes, uh, well, they're never in full pads, Paul, I understand, Mike, Well,

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Speaker 4: I thought they had been wearing pads on Thursdays.

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Speaker 1: I want to think.

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Speaker 11: So Stanley Morgan making it, you know, the Hall of

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Speaker 1: But Stanley Morgan is as.

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Speaker 3: People know, I'm a small hall guy. A lot of

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't think. Yeah, that.

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Speaker 11: Is a good story, Paul, Yeah it was. It was

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Speaker 11: funny time. Tony Dungee was sitting right where I was sitting.

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Speaker 11: Dungee just you know, pointed out Stanley Morning like he

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Speaker 11: And you know, as we're waiting for the cameras to

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Speaker 1: But no, it was cool. I mean I wanted.

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Speaker 11: You ever, I should have asked him if he ever

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Speaker 3: Just the guy bridged over twenty yards to catch for

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Speaker 1: I mean three times, I think he led the league

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't like he was playing, you know, with great.

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Speaker 4: And it wasn't like he caught you know, fifteen passes

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Speaker 5: He was he was really one of the first like

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Speaker 3: And I loved him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a really good player.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to, you know, something was so just

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean he was also good Patriots, seems though.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't know if it should have.

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Speaker 11: the eighty five thing was, you know, eighty four, eighty five,

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Speaker 11: thirty eight, thirty nine receptions, and then all of a

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Speaker 11: sudden in eighty six he just comes back with eighty

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Speaker 11: four catches, fourteen hundred and ninety one yards, ten touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: You know that was year he's thirty one. Seemed like

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Speaker 4: With you have the whole numbers right there. I did,

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Speaker 11: In eighty four he played thirteen, and eighty five he

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Speaker 1: He played sixteen.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't he didn't miss as many games. But I

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Speaker 4: will say that's one. The one negative on Stanley Morgan

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Speaker 4: is he constantly dealt with hamstring problems. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 4: You know this, I'm going to play Evan's side of

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Speaker 4: the street here. There's two I think excellent wide receivers

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Speaker 4: for Pittsburgh and Lynn Swan and John Stalwart. Stanley Morgan

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Speaker 4: did the Patriots have something to do with it? I

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Speaker 4: would say yes, that elevated, you know, four titles for

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Speaker 4: the Steelers. Absolutely elevated those two wide receivers and got

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Speaker 4: them in and Stanley Morgan never got a chance to

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Speaker 4: do it. I'm not telling you that Swan and Stalwarts

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Speaker 4: don't belong in. I'm telling you Morgan belongs in too.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially Stalwarts. He was really really good player for Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: Swan made the big highlight reel catches and Super Bowls

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So let's let's hope. Now he's in the veterans,

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Speaker 3: he's in the scene and how many of those can

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Speaker 1: They're all part of the finalists.

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Speaker 11: So I think the way they kind of have it

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Speaker 11: I think it's everybody's kind of in the mix, right, So.

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Speaker 4: They'll have one senior guy, one contributor one.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if they have I don't even

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Speaker 11: I don't think they have to even a coach, Like

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Speaker 11: it's they there's a finalist, but it doesn't have to happen.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, they don't have to put them in. But

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Speaker 4: I think that they all all of those committees pick

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Speaker 4: one guy and present them to the Fame. The Hall

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Speaker 3: I thought nobody gets in if they don't get a

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Speaker 3: certain percentage of the votes, Like if one person doesn't

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Speaker 3: get like sixty percent. I don't know about they don't

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's the Hall of Fame committee. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I know they're differently.

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Speaker 4: I think that they all are tasked with picking one guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. I know that's definitely sure

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Speaker 1: I could be last.

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Speaker 5: Year on the senior committee, former Packers receiver who I

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Speaker 4: Way, but sharp Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a little bit

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So they last year, they you know, for Fred,

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Speaker 5: and you know, there were some guys, you know, first

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Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, not putting them all in

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be tough for Vinitarian Harrison is what

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Speaker 11: And Ventitari was a finalist last year, so he goes

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Speaker 11: and Rodney was not a finally he was a finalist

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Speaker 11: I think a couple of years ago, and then he

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, that's it's interesting. Patriots are well represented on

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Speaker 1: Will be contributors.

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Speaker 11: just uh, Logan mankins All is in that group as well,

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Speaker 1: I'd just love to see more Patriots in the Hall

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Speaker 4: Yep, I missed my meeting with Logan this year. I'm

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Speaker 5: That with Logan.

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Speaker 3: Okay, guy? What else?

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Speaker 4: Seeing in Fenwick? Played on Friday? But I didn't go

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Speaker 3: What else? What else? Alex? What's going on with you?

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Speaker 3: You had a birthday?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: I had the whole world? Was it yesterday?

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Speaker 7: It was Tuesday?

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Speaker 8: Tuesday, although a lot of people think it was yesterday,

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't want to be correcting everybody. Yeah, so

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Speaker 5: Happy birthday?

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Speaker 1: Losing their luster a little bit?

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Speaker 3: Are you a good birthday celebrator?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I think she's at the especially thirty one hour.

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Speaker 7: It's all downhill from here.

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Speaker 4: It's thirty one.

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Speaker 3: It's all over prime, but you're.

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Speaker 1: In your prime.

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Speaker 3: No, thirty one is the new twenty nine? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Is it really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Good to know forty is.

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Speaker 3: The new th all right?

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Speaker 7: I changed my mind and it was a great what's

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Speaker 7: eighty the news?

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Speaker 3: All right? I know what that means? A five five

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Speaker 3: past five hundred is the hotline podcast at patriots dot

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Speaker 3: com is the email address. We're going to do picks later.

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Speaker 3: I got to pop out at about one oh.

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Speaker 1: Five, happy about that?

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Speaker 4: We can we go? We get hurry. Freend's not here

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Speaker 4: to make sure.

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Speaker 3: But I'll be back before picks. Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 3: Not that's just poor to me, little preview did how

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Speaker 3: did everyone do good week for you? Well, I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about everybody else. We know that everybody else.

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Speaker 4: I just continue to climb out of the basement. Okay, good,

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Speaker 4: It's been a long Jewish journey. But okay, I'm no

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Speaker 4: longer in last place in either one of.

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Speaker 3: Them, like the seven circles of help?

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Speaker 4: Correct, that's every show with you.

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Speaker 3: Should I go to the phone, Should I go to

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Speaker 3: the emails? What should I do? What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Why doesn't this mouse work?

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Speaker 7: Why don't you leave class?

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Speaker 4: Why don't you lead off with Christian and let him

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Speaker 4: yell at me?

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Speaker 3: All right? Oh okay, oh there he is there you go.

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Speaker 3: I guess you know we we brought up his name right,

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Speaker 3: so we should probably let him have hus speak. Okay,

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Speaker 3: but keep it simple, Christian, what's up, Paul.

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Speaker 6: Because I'm a gentleman and a scholar, I'm just going

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Speaker 6: to take my flowers and say we're on the same side. However,

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Speaker 6: today I gotta get after you guys to getting on

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Speaker 6: Evan because Evan is right. In today's league, you cannot

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Speaker 6: build a team one draft and then you start sort

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Speaker 6: of nippicking around. It's not going to happen that way.

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Speaker 6: The talent disparage you between the top players and the

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Speaker 6: mid players and the lower players is way too too

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Speaker 6: wide today, and the margin is so thin that you

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Speaker 6: literally have to be in the top half of the

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Speaker 6: draft for at least three years build a.

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Speaker 10: Team that's that's going to be able to.

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Speaker 6: Sustain and compete for a playoff in about four years.

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Speaker 6: So I'm on Evan's side. No one's saying let's purposely lose.

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Speaker 6: What he's saying is it definitely takes at least three drafts,

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Speaker 6: good drafts in the high picks to get it. Jalen

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Speaker 6: Polk was never going to be good. You know why,

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Speaker 6: because either at the bottom of the first or second round,

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Speaker 6: running a four, four to three or four I mean

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Speaker 6: four or five, four, six. That's ridiculous. We can't get

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Speaker 6: players that are great unless we are higher in the draft.

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Speaker 6: How did that happen? You are at the bottom seat

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Speaker 6: of the playoffs or not in the playoffs. That's all

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Speaker 6: we were trying to say. We need to say lose. Purposely,

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Speaker 6: we said to building today's league. It's different. Thank you guys,

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Speaker 6: Gon'll take it off the air. Let's beat these Browns

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Speaker 6: and keep moving on.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks question, okay, all right, all right, So.

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Speaker 4: I purposely let that go, and again I would just

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Speaker 4: start I would just argue back and say, first of all,

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Speaker 4: Jalen Polk was at the top of the second round,

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Speaker 4: not the bottom right. Second of all, you had a

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Speaker 4: better option than Jalen Polk that got taken and it

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Speaker 4: has been far more productive after Jalen Pope. Correct. They

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Speaker 4: have their their opportunity to draft labmer Conky and they didn't.

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Speaker 4: Fred was climbering of the lab. They traded down, They

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Speaker 4: traded That's what I'm saying. They had an opportunity to

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Speaker 4: draft them and they didn't.

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 4: So I just would push back on this, the whole

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Speaker 4: notion that you can't get good players unless you pick

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Speaker 4: in the top half of the first round.

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Speaker 5: Right, No, I'm saying that.

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Speaker 4: I didn't say that you did. He keeps insisting that

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Speaker 4: I'm with him.

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Speaker 5: I am not.

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Speaker 4: I would just push back on that whole mentality. This

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Speaker 4: is not about Evan's right when you know, talking about

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Speaker 4: the goalposts, like, this argument isn't about losing on purpose,

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Speaker 4: trying to lose. That's not what this arguments about. That's

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Speaker 4: not what anyone is suggesting. Evan's not suggesting that at all.

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Speaker 4: Where Evan and I have a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: difference of opinion is I don't believe that the only

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Speaker 4: way to get really good players is to be at

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Speaker 4: the top half of the first round. I think you

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Speaker 4: have to get good players regardless of where you pick.

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Speaker 4: I I agree with Evan on that that's the only

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Speaker 4: way to sustain success is to draft.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just want to be I just want to

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Speaker 3: clear something up. So right now, I think we would

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Speaker 3: all agree that the Patriots are on a roll. They're

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Speaker 3: winning games, but there's a lot of still roster stuff

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Speaker 3: that they need to do. Absolutely absolutely, so now they're screwed.

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Speaker 5: Right, No, that's not what I'm saying because if they

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Speaker 5: what if they do well this year, because that's fine.

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Speaker 5: The Patriots have already been in the gutter enough now.

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Speaker 3: I know, But how are they in your mind, how

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Speaker 3: are they going to get back?

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Speaker 5: Because I don't think what they need now is going

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Speaker 5: to be like foundational pieces that you can't get elsewhere.

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Speaker 5: They have the quarterback, they have a left tackle, they

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Speaker 5: have a number one corner, like these are the places

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Speaker 5: that are really difficult to find at thirty in the

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Speaker 5: draft or in free agency. They don't come available. Number

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Speaker 5: one wide receiver. You can trade for those. We see

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Speaker 5: it all the time, Like you can go in the

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Speaker 5: trade market and you can for an AJ Brown, you

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Speaker 5: can trade for a Stefon Diggs, you can trade for

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Speaker 5: a Tyreek Hill like that gets moved right now. The

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Speaker 5: only thing that I think that they're probably missing out of,

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Speaker 5: like the premium positions, is like a stud edge rusher.

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Speaker 5: So maybe they will have to do that by committee

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Speaker 5: like they're doing right now, instead of going out and

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Speaker 5: getting von Miller at the top of the draft. They

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Speaker 5: might need Landry's and Chase Son's and those types of

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Speaker 5: players to fill it in. But what we're not asking

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Speaker 5: them to do is to go find a quarterback drafting

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Speaker 5: at twenty right, and that's where the Pittsburgh Steelers have

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Speaker 5: been for the last five years, is they don't have

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Speaker 5: a quarterback of the future, but they don't stink enough

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Speaker 5: to draft a quarterback up top, so they're getting you know,

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Speaker 5: Kenny Pickett's of the world. The Patriots draft Mac Jones

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Speaker 5: fifteenth overall instead of having Trevor Lawrence right like that.

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Speaker 5: Those are the problems that I think you have. But

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Speaker 5: the Patriots have been in the gutter for three years now,

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Speaker 5: really two years in the top of the five draft,

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Speaker 5: so they've started to pick some of these pillar foundational

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Speaker 5: guys at these premium positions.

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Speaker 3: But one of the reasons why they're they've been so

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Speaker 3: bad is because they didn't draft well, they didn't draft

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Speaker 3: they had let Paul pointed out, and there's been there's

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Speaker 3: plenty of other examples. They had chances to draft better

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Speaker 3: players than they draft.

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Speaker 5: But we can play that game all day with all

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Speaker 5: thirty two exactly.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of the point of it is, like it's

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Speaker 3: not where, it's who.

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Speaker 5: No, But the point is is that you're talking about

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Speaker 5: like quarterback. You can't just expect quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Of course, you're.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about left tackle, which like those those guys.

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Speaker 3: But you can get that guy and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: now you're a good team.

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Speaker 5: You do not find left tackles that are starting caliber

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Speaker 5: like good left tackles on Day two of the draft.

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Speaker 3: So don't so back back when they drafted Mac Jones.

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Speaker 3: In an alternate universe, let's say Drake May was that guy.

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Speaker 3: They would have gotten better a lot faster.

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Speaker 5: But Drake May wouldn't have gone fifteenth overall, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Just saying if they had been able to pick Drake

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Speaker 3: May back then this rebuild would have happened a lot

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Speaker 3: faster than it did without Bill Campbell and without all

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Speaker 3: these guys.

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Speaker 5: Because they had holdovers from the Brady teams.

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Speaker 3: They weren't good. It was a bad team.

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Speaker 5: Twenty one was not a bad team.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just it was the free agent team.

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Speaker 3: I just think there's a lot of ways to skin

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Speaker 3: the cat in the NFL. I do believe you have

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Speaker 3: to draft well, you have to build through the draft,

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Speaker 3: but you don't always have to draft in the top

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Speaker 3: ten to draft good players.

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Speaker 5: You don't know, I'm saying that what I'm telling you

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Speaker 5: is is that I think at these premium positions like quarterback,

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Speaker 5: like left tackle, like all corner pass rusher, like those

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Speaker 5: guys go at the top of the draft. There's a

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Speaker 5: reason why they call them premium positions because they're worth

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Speaker 5: now over time.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say you have Drake May and man, we've

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Speaker 3: got this great quarterback. We've got the potential at that time.

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Speaker 3: You can you can get a left tackle. You can

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Speaker 3: you can trade or buy a left tackle, you know,

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Speaker 3: because you're not you're only paying that one guy, right.

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Speaker 5: You get him, even if what is he going to

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Speaker 5: be good?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 5: Is he going to be worth the money that you're paying? Like,

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Speaker 5: go look at the free agency at left tackle last year.

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Speaker 5: We just played one last week in Tennessee Dan Moore

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Speaker 5: Junior who got smoked by the AFC defensive Player of

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Speaker 5: the week.

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Speaker 3: I know, but so again, you can, right, But if

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Speaker 3: you've got the quarterback, that's half the battle.

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Speaker 4: Of course, and if the whole quarterback more than half.

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Speaker 5: Right, If you get the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And if you're only paying the quarterback, you've got money

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Speaker 3: to burn. Now you don't I'm assuming you don't have

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Speaker 3: your cornerback you don't have your red rusher, you don't

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Speaker 3: have your left tackle. There's other ways.

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Speaker 5: To get them to where do they get the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, probably high in the draft.

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Speaker 5: The Patriots got him high in the draft. They have

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Speaker 5: a sustainable What if they were in the.

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Speaker 3: Middle of the draft and they draft and they and they,

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Speaker 3: you know, moved got picks and moved up. Other teams

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Speaker 3: done that. Yeah, they moved up, okay, but they weren't

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Speaker 3: necessarily terrible teams.

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Speaker 4: That's how Kansas City built their dynasty.

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Speaker 5: Correct by trading all the way up to draft Patrick right,

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Speaker 5: and they weren't a bad but they were a good

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Speaker 5: team before that. They were I understand that. But when

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Speaker 5: they got and went to go get Mahomes, they drafted

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Speaker 5: him tenth overall.

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Speaker 3: But they didn't have to lose to win.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the part that I.

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Speaker 5: With Alex Smith's one example with Alex Smith, like if

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Speaker 5: the Patriots had signed the call, you could.

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Speaker 4: Give you examples, but you don't really agree with us.

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Speaker 4: So I think we're just banging our heads. Like the

667
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Speaker 4: Rams like gave away all their picks. They've sustained it

668
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Speaker 4: for what six seven years now, Like there's a random

669
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of different ways to do.

670
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Speaker 3: I remember at that time people said the Rams are

671
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Speaker 3: doing it wrong, they're screwed.

672
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Speaker 5: But the Okay, we're just gonna have to let this

673
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: go because you're not like the Rams already had their

674
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 5: foundational pieces in place. They already had quarter They drafted

675
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: Jared Goff first overall.

676
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Speaker 3: How did they get their quarterback?

677
00:29:59,320 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: But they drafted?

678
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: But has that in place? And you and you're killing

679
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: Washington and yet praising the Patriots. They're the same. They

680
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: both had a top three pick, nailed the quarterback, and

681
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 4: they they've gotten better.

682
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: But I'm talking about the quarterback.

683
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 5: Jared Goff for him, the Pagers didn't have a Jared Goff.

684
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: The trade for they.

685
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Speaker 4: Goa But we're not talking about like once you once

686
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 4: you get the quarterback, we no longer have any interest

687
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Speaker 4: in picking in the top ten. Who's saying they have

688
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: interest in Fred and I are saying that we do.

689
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 4: But you think that Washington is like doomed because they

690
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: went to the NERC Championship last year.

691
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Speaker 5: I think Washington that's the that's the part that we're

692
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Speaker 5: disagreeing on. Washington hit lightning in a bottle. Last year.

693
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Speaker 4: They may have they may not have been quite that good.

694
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Speaker 4: But to me, the future is rosy for Washington because

695
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: the quarterback is good. They'll be able to continue if

696
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: they draft well to put pieces around him. You don't

697
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Speaker 4: have to have a top half of the first round

698
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: pick to go from where Washington is now to title contender,

699
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Speaker 4: in my view. Doesn't make them right. Doesn't mean I'm right,

700
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: but I don't think that they need a top five

701
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 4: pick to help Jayden Daniels get to the where they

702
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: want to go. I agree with you. That was lightning

703
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: in a bottle last year. Fred and I talked about

704
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 4: it a lot in the summer. I agree with you.

705
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: They weren't quite as good as their record indicated last year.

706
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Speaker 4: But I think they'll be okay because as long as

707
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Speaker 4: Daniel stays healthy.

708
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Speaker 3: Right, I think ok.

709
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Speaker 5: I Just the way that I look at it is

710
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 5: that I look at teams that sustained success in the league,

711
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 5: not teams that have hit it one year and then

712
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 5: come back down to earth. Teams that build that, Teams

713
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 5: that really sustain it. Now, we want to use the Chiefs,

714
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 5: who have the greatest quarterback of the modern era, then

715
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 5: I guess we can take the Chiefs. But like I

716
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 5: just like, Okay, if I had Patrick Mahomes, then yes,

717
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 5: I probably could build a team picking at the bottom

718
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Speaker 5: of the first round.

719
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Speaker 3: If I had Tom Brigeles.

720
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Speaker 5: The Eagles drafted Jalen Carter tent, they drafted DeVante Smith,

721
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Speaker 5: like twelve. The drafted a lot of their players in

722
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Speaker 5: the top of the draft.

723
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Speaker 3: Ten and twelve.

724
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Speaker 5: Yeah, ten and twelve, that's all I'm saying.

725
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Speaker 3: And Jalen Hurts was in the second round.

726
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they got lucky they drafted. He's one of the

727
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 5: few outliers outside of the first round that's worked out.

728
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, like Kirk Cousins for a minute.

729
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: Like Russell Wilson.

730
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Russell Wilson. You've named four Like this is exactly like.

731
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Speaker 3: There's only thirty two teams. Oh yeah, we're getting.

732
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Speaker 4: There, Fred, that's not an argument you want to make. No,

733
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Speaker 4: if you want to be good, you got to get

734
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Speaker 4: a first round draft pick for a quarterback. I mean

735
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Speaker 4: it's pretty simple. There's like fifteen good quarterbacks in the league,

736
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Speaker 4: and like thirteen of them were drafted.

737
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Speaker 3: In the first right. No, but you can take somebody

738
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Speaker 3: Else's draft pick. Matthew Stafford was a high pick, but

739
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: they traded for him. They didn't draft him.

740
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they traded a number one overall pick for

741
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Speaker 4: a number one overall pick. I know, to Evans's points,

742
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Speaker 4: but you say, I am not not that stubborn. I

743
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Speaker 4: can go back. I understand, I could switch side. We know,

744
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: I can argue anything.

745
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Speaker 5: It's very hard to find blue chip talent outside of

746
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Speaker 5: the top ten fifteen.

747
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Speaker 3: You could just say, period, it's hard to find blue

748
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: chip talent. There's not a lot of blue champers out there.

749
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I guess that gets into a whole

750
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Speaker 5: semantics of what's a blue chipper. But like, I think

751
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Speaker 5: define those types of players. You know, we can sit

752
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 5: here and talk about the Eagles. The Eagles have spread

753
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Speaker 5: it really thin. They've done it in multiple ways. But

754
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Speaker 5: at the same time, Lane Johnson was a top five

755
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 5: pick in the draft. Jalen Carter was went tenth overall

756
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 5: to Philadelphia a couple of years ago. DeVante Smith I

757
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 5: think was like eleven or twelve, right, Like, it's not

758
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Speaker 5: like their team is filled with guys that weren't drafted highly.

759
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Speaker 5: You know, Jordan Davis was a top twenty pick in

760
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Speaker 5: the draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they also manipulate well to get those they did.

762
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Speaker 3: They made a lot of good They make trades and

763
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Speaker 3: now they have a.

764
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Speaker 5: Roundation and now they now they have Jalen Carter in place.

765
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Speaker 4: They have like the most important thing is is when

766
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Speaker 4: they manipulated and moved around the board, they hit the pick. Right,

767
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Speaker 4: they didn't take Jalen Polk instead of Lad McConkie.

768
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Speaker 5: Right, right, take Jalen Rager.

769
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Speaker 4: But that was a wild ago. You're going back.

770
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Speaker 5: I know, I'm just messing.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's keep going. Let's let's let's proceed. Nate's

772
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Speaker 3: in Connecticut. What's up, Nate? Hey? Hey?

773
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Speaker 1: Good?

774
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Speaker 12: Uh So my question for you guys is, with the

775
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 12: trade deadline quickly approaching, I see us not adding a

776
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Speaker 12: wide receiver, even though people say we we we're gonna

777
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 12: try to.

778
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 10: I don't see that.

779
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 12: I see plenty of potential with Kashan Boody. I know

780
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 12: we signed dig was like a one year deal. I

781
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Speaker 12: think three years three year, okay, But you know, with

782
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Speaker 12: Hop Douglas, I think we have enough in the wide

783
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Speaker 12: receiver room. It's just I feel like we can add

784
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 12: some depth at corner because I've seen Carton Carson Davis,

785
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 12: you know, get shaken off after a lot of plays,

786
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 12: and I don't know how many plays he's gonna come

787
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 12: back up, Uh, not without a scratch, if you know

788
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 12: what I'm saying. But I see I see aid in,

789
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 12: probably a cornerback and maybe a couple of defensive playmakers,

790
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 12: just to beef up the defense. But I want you

791
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Speaker 12: guys to know from that, I think, Okay.

792
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw Sweet this morning.

793
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 11: Shoot, I forget who it was from saying that the

794
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 11: Patriots had been more interested in defensive players. That's what

795
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 11: the rumblings are for the trade deadline, looking at cornerbacks

796
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 11: and linebacker.

797
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Speaker 1: That what it was.

798
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Speaker 3: I think that's probably where the value is.

799
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 11: Yeah maybe, but yeah, I just I still think they're

800
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 11: searching for some pieces on defense even now.

801
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not saying it never happens, but I wouldn't

802
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 5: get your hopes up that they're gonna make like a

803
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 5: splash or like a team altering type of trade in

804
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 5: the middle of the season. They might make a trade

805
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 5: for depth. You know, they might get another corner in here.

806
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 5: To Nate's point that you know, just in terms of insurance,

807
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 5: if you know, somebody one of those top three guys

808
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 5: gets hurt and they don't love Charles Woods or they

809
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 5: don't love Alex Austen. You know, they could do that,

810
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 5: They could get you have some more depth in safety

811
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 5: with all the injuries that they've had recently at safety.

812
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Speaker 5: But I don't think that they're going to be able

813
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 5: to get a player that's really going to move the needle. Now,

814
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 5: it happens sometimes, it doesn't never happen, but it's it's

815
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 5: pretty rare.

816
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at edge depth too. You know.

817
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 5: That's sure drum beat for me.

818
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 11: But I think they'll do something and I I just

819
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 11: running back. We keep bringing it up, but what's going

820
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 11: to happen there? Not gonna let Remandre carry the load

821
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 11: for you know, all by himself.

822
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Speaker 4: In the last I'm surprised. And it is definitely depending

823
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: on where you look like Jeremy Fowler said they are

824
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: absolutely in the running back market. I think Diana Rossini

825
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 4: said they're not.

826
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Speaker 3: In the running back market.

827
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Speaker 4: I don't know what to believe, but I can't imagine

828
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: that if they had an opportunity. I agree with Evan

829
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 4: big splash is probably unrealistic, but they need just depth

830
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 4: pieces at running back. I can't imagine you want to

831
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: go with the rest away with two guys.

832
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 5: And I was surprised they haven't moved on a running

833
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 5: back me too.

834
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Speaker 11: And I mean, I'm I'm not reading too much into it.

835
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 11: I just highlight like Rabel saying in the locker room

836
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 11: after the game to Terrell Jennings, we found our what

837
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 11: our ten or.

838
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Speaker 1: Five minute back, like you know, I don't know if

839
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: that was.

840
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Speaker 11: Real or like, but to me it would like perk

841
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 11: my ears up a little bit of are you going

842
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 11: to give him some more carries?

843
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: Was that just garbage like that? Right?

844
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

845
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 4: I mean that was garbage time arries. That's not the

846
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 4: same thing.

847
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Speaker 11: It might know that, Yeah, no, I know that's and

848
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 11: that's why I said, like I wasn't saying like, but

849
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 11: it just highlighted to me like they're saying we found

850
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 11: our something, like you're looking for something at that. Not

851
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 11: to say that Terrell Jennings is going to be that guy,

852
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 11: but it's just a glaring need right now. And you know,

853
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 11: I think we all know if Romandrie goes down with

854
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 11: like an injury, you know, on Sunday, like what do

855
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 11: you do now? It's it's Tyl Jennings show pretty much.

856
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: Yesterday, Paul and I revealed that on one of Paul's

857
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: shows they were confused as to when Drake May was picked.

858
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: Like on one of his shows, they said that kind

859
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: of the top five because they us that last game

860
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: last year and they didn't have the top pick overall,

861
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Speaker 3: they weren't able to pick.

862
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Speaker 1: They screwed up their high rounds.

863
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Barton Poland said to the Caleb May discussion

864
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Speaker 3: from yesterday, we got May because we lost to the

865
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Speaker 3: Jets in the last game of that season. And to

866
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: that and to that game, a big portion of the

867
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: fan base was quietly and not quietly rooting for lost.

868
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Speaker 11: Me included that there was a lot I mean, there's

869
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Speaker 11: alkick Denver on Christmas was like what initially cost them

870
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Speaker 11: the number one pick in that draft and then they

871
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 11: like got Yeah, there's a lot of different things they

872
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 11: the Giants kick.

873
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 5: Obviously they had a chance to win that game at

874
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 5: the end and he missed that one. So there's a

875
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: lot of different like.

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00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: If you want to say thank god that they won

877
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 4: those games, like the Pittsburgh and Denver game that everybody

878
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: makes fun of down the stretch, you could say in retrospect,

879
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: you got the best quarterback, so thank god that they

880
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 4: won those games. And I gave you the third pick

881
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 4: because you may not have if you had the first pick.

882
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: Maybe you would have.

883
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: Right many however, including Febrar rooting for a win not

884
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: only because you always root for win, but because you

885
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 3: couldn't live with Bill's last game as our head coach

886
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: being a loss to the Jets, even if it costs

887
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: us a top three pick. Now I have a question.

888
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: I don't remember that. Now I have a question for

889
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: those people. Fred you can answer. Have you, at any

890
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: point since twenty twenty four, since January twenty twenty four,

891
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: thought about that game regretted not winning it, because I

892
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: haven't seen it mentioned once since then, would you swap

893
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: getting May for Bill winning his last game as our

894
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 3: head coach? I think I know the answer. I don't remember.

895
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: Winning on not winning that game did not have any

896
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 4: impact on you getting May or not. If you lost

897
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 4: the game, you were where you were, like, I mean,

898
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 4: what are we doing?

899
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 5: I think if they had lost the game, they might

900
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 5: have been second instead of third, but you would have

901
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 5: still been picking between Jayden Daniels and Drakes.

902
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 4: So if they won the game, where do they go?

903
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 4: They go fifth.

904
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 5: If they had won the game. Aim, Uh, I don't know, honestly, And.

905
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: I suppose there's an argument that Bart's making. He's probably right,

906
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: but probably has this right because I don't have the

907
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 4: whole draft in front of me. Maybe if they won,

908
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: one of the teams that picked after them would have

909
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 4: taken me.

910
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 5: Or jumped ahead of them.

911
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, they would have jumped ahead of them,

912
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: and maybe.

913
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows, butterfly effect, You never know, you never know.

914
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 5: Well, he was definitely going in the top three, but

915
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know exactly. I don't remember

916
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 5: because after the Patriots took three, I think it went

917
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 5: to six for the Giants. Right, Oh man, this is

918
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 5: a couple of drafts.

919
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 3: Never mind. Yeah, let's get back to the phone. Melvin's

920
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 3: in Tennessee. What's up, Melvin, How's going on.

921
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, it's great to just obviously

922
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 6: have like an offensive team we can win and score

923
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 6: as a big difference when you have a game of

924
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 6: a team that deep, the focus is hard. Like on

925
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 6: every game with like Intendas, it was just it's a

926
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 6: lot it's hard to do, and like policy is, I

927
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 6: think it's like it not really sustainable. And I think Cleveland,

928
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 6: I think about it was one of those teams recently.

929
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 6: They had like a defensive led team a couple of

930
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 6: years ago. Then the get Houston offed the floor with him.

931
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 6: I'll never forget that in the playoff game. So it's

932
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 6: still just hard to do. But with that being said,

933
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 6: I'm going to go twenty four Patriots. Cleveland say thirteen.

934
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: Twenty four to thirteen. Okay, okay, yeah, I can see that. Okay,

935
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 3: thanks Mervin. Sorry I missed you in Nashville.

936
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 6: A good lock stuff going off?

937
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 3: All right? I got Youah, he texted me. By that time,

938
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 3: pants were off. I was in bed, so oh when

939
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: you were in Nashville. Yeah, I'm sorry. I wasn't. I wasn't.

940
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: I wasn't about to go out.

941
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're going to do on your time,

942
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 4: but each other you.

943
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: Up, you up, you up.

944
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: Eldred's in North Carolina? What's up? Eldred?

945
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 13: Hey?

946
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 9: Alan?

947
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 14: He's how you doing?

948
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: Belgian?

949
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 14: I'm gonna make this. I'm gonna try and make this quick,

950
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 14: Evan on which thanks soldier and oh pray, why are

951
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 14: y'all arguing because this is what we do years that

952
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 14: we went thirty. I know you wouldn't thirty have to

953
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 14: pick everybody else will be picked being garbage because in

954
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 14: the middle of laugh of the Witch cop and most

955
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 14: of them still ain't with the Kings, I ain't ain't

956
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 14: coming up with Graybell cut down on top. Before doing

957
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 14: the draft, you wouldn't have got made. If you were

958
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 14: drafted twenty eight, you wouldn't have got God.

959
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: We wouldn't.

960
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 5: It's a very chicken or the egg now that I'm really.

961
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 6: Okay.

962
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 15: But but what I'm saying is what I'm saying is.

963
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 14: You get the top guys at the top of the draft. Okay,

964
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 14: that's what we did for the.

965
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 5: I know, I know, But if you're drafted twenty eight down,

966
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 5: I know that we're just going to have to agree

967
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 5: to disagree.

968
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: But I think we all agree on the quarterback part

969
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: of the argument.

970
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 11: And I think we spent too much time over the

971
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 11: last couple of years analyzing how do the Patriots get

972
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 11: the next quarterback?

973
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: And all that.

974
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 11: Well, you had like little polls and research and all

975
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 11: kinds of stuff. And if you want a.

976
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 4: Great quarterback, I mean, in general, I'm one thousand percent

977
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: locks to me, the.

978
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 11: Bottom line, that's what you need to do and like

979
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 11: and I also here though you know, there's no set

980
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 11: way to do it. Like you know, you can't say, well,

981
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 11: we're going to get the four key positions and four consecutive.

982
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 11: You know, it worked out that way pretty well for

983
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 11: the Patriots, But I think that's kind of rare.

984
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: There's usually going to be a hole. You got to

985
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: try to figure out one of those important positions. And

986
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, but I think we all agree on the quarterback.

987
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 11: That's where if you like you want sustained excellence and

988
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 11: you want to get a legit guy with all.

989
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 4: The taps quarterback, where you're going to end up picking

990
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 4: in the top five. Yeah, and once you do it,

991
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 4: you have to make sure you hit you know, you

992
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: know the Jets do it all the time, right, they

993
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: just don't seem to hit the quarterback. I mean, but

994
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: if you don't have the quarterback, I.

995
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 5: Just think we're in a chicken under of the egg

996
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 5: situation because like, in order to get to picking twenty

997
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 5: eighth in the draft, you had to have found the

998
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 5: quarterbacks at point, I don't know what it's a quarterback,

999
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 5: you probably needed to pick them in the top ten.

1000
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 7: And that's why it's not black and white.

1001
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 8: Right like the beginning of this whole debate, you guys

1002
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 8: are once Evan's arguing black, you guys are arguing white,

1003
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 8: and then you find the gray area in between. Because

1004
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 8: there's thirty two teams and everything is so circumstantial every

1005
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 8: single year that there's no way to.

1006
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 7: Just replicate a process.

1007
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 8: You can't just look at a roadmap and say we're

1008
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 8: going to do it this way, because every circumstance is

1009
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 8: so different.

1010
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 5: I also think it's stealing.

1011
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: Nuance to everything. And that's what Fred was saying. There's

1012
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: a lot of different ways to do it, and I

1013
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 4: would just just, you know, to put a bow on it.

1014
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 4: I would just say that's why I don't think Washington's doomed.

1015
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: I don't think they're doomed because I think they got

1016
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: the part that's the hardest to get again, assuming he

1017
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 4: stays healthy and now I don't think you need those

1018
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 4: high high picks to get the other things that they

1019
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 4: still need. The rosters obviously flawed, it's not a great.

1020
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 5: I don't think they're doomed. I just think that what

1021
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 5: I would say you're.

1022
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 11: To have going a little run and cost themselves, right.

1023
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 5: It just I look at Washington's roster now, and you

1024
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 5: know they have tunsl a left tackle, so maybe they're

1025
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 5: they'll figure that out. But like, can you even like

1026
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 5: name like a star defensive player on that team, like Frankie,

1027
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 5: I Like.

1028
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if they have a star. You know,

1029
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: I don't think they have a guy as good as

1030
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: Christian Gonzales.

1031
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 5: But I mean, and once Terry McLaurin starts to age

1032
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 5: out at the receiver position, they don't need to get

1033
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 5: what's behind him is really really not great. So it

1034
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 5: just those types of positions. You know, it might be

1035
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 5: in a position to draft Jordan Tyson and fix the

1036
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 5: receiver thing.

1037
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 11: I think the Steelers are just the right example though,

1038
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 11: of a team that just is always good enough to

1039
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 11: not get that guy and you know what's not going quarterback?

1040
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they're always in the middle of the draft.

1041
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 3: You can really come up with every scenario. You can

1042
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: find a team, whether currently or in the you know,

1043
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: near pass that fits that yeah criteria, like Dallas is

1044
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh is thing whatever? I mean, I mean, where do

1045
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: you categorize Dallas. I mean, they've got the quarterback, they've

1046
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: got everything at their disposal off and they just can't

1047
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: get over that hump, you know, so like why do you.

1048
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 4: That's a different argument, but it's another example of what

1049
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 4: you're talking.

1050
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: It's just like you can find examples to fit any argument.

1051
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 4: Their problem isn't drafting, and their problem isn't the roster construction.

1052
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: Their problem is the owner won't hire a coach that's

1053
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 4: any good because you won't spend any money on it.

1054
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I think we've had such an up

1055
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 11: close look though, at the disparity in quarterbacks just between

1056
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 11: you know, Drake May at third and Mac Jones and

1057
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 11: talk about all the time. You could tell from day

1058
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 11: one that Mac is going to be limited and no

1059
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 11: matter what it looked like, sometimes he's going to struggle

1060
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 11: to hit the deep out.

1061
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: With, you know, on a frozen rope. And then you

1062
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: get Drake May and you just see the physical.

1063
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 11: Talent that a top five pick has, that he has

1064
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 11: every tool in the toolbox, and that his first glance,

1065
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 11: you're thinking, God, if this kild could ever put it

1066
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 11: all together, and lo and behold, now we're kind of

1067
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 11: actually seeing that come to fruition.

1068
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 5: And nine times out of ten, the quarterback that can

1069
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 5: hit the deep out on a frozen rope is drafted

1070
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: in the top.

1071
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: Any argument.

1072
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 5: But you know, like when you start drafting the quarterbacks,

1073
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 5: you know, fifteen twenty twenty five, that's Mac Jones, that's

1074
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 5: can he Pickett? That's some accuracy like that those where

1075
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 5: or it's like a Will Levis who has the physical

1076
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 5: tools but doesn't have the accuracy, doesn't have it up here,

1077
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 5: you know, like it's that's the way, that's what you're

1078
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 5: picking from.

1079
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, and there's always going to be well

1080
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 11: this random guy on day two, you know, like that's

1081
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 11: always but you can't ever rely on that.

1082
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's ever a plan.

1083
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: You know, it's not a plan, not a plan that

1084
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 4: happens happen. If Jackson dart ends up being like the

1085
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: next big thing, then you know, good for Brian Dable

1086
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 4: and Joe Shane and they kind of lucked into it.

1087
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 5: It's really rare, honestly that they wanted Drake May.

1088
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: Yep.

1089
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 5: It happens very rarely that there's that middle ground of

1090
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 5: like the guy that was drafted like twentieth Like usually

1091
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 5: it's either the top five or it's like Jalen Hurts

1092
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 5: right and Jimmy g There's like not a whole lot

1093
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 5: of in between. There of like a guy that was

1094
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 5: drafted twenty third in the first round and ends up

1095
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 5: being a franchise quarterback. It's either late or early, and

1096
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 5: there's really, you know, not a lot in between.

1097
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: Carlos salt Lake, First off, Paul, I just want to

1098
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: say you only slightly hurt my feelings with your terse

1099
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: response from the short question Fred read from my email

1100
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 3: about Henderson's usage. I've mostly recovered anyway. My actual question

1101
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: is for Evan on Chisholm's eight or nine offensive snaps

1102
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Speaker 3: last game, what was his role out there? Was it

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00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: mostly motioned decoy or did he have any design routes

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Speaker 3: or blocking responsible abilities? And do you think they might

1105
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: be building toward using him more on offense as the

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Speaker 3: season goes on.

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Speaker 5: Well, they used him in a lot of three receiver sets.

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00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 5: I mean he blocked mostly. He's on the field for

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00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 5: like eight or nine plays, and I think he blocked

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00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 5: on six of them, like so he's mostly used as

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00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 5: a blocker. I think he only ran two routes off

1112
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 5: the top of my head. But a lot of it was,

1113
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 5: you know, blocking was very able. WOU put it blocking force,

1114
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 5: blocking safeties, blocking linebackers, play strength, you know, that sort

1115
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 5: of thing. But they wanted to get three receivers on

1116
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 5: the field and run out of eleven personnel because they

1117
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 5: just liked that matchup against Tennessee's nickel package. So they

1118
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 5: decided to go with Chisholm instead of going with Digs

1119
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 5: or with Pop Douglas in that situation. So they went Booty, Chisholm,

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Speaker 5: Hollins and they've kind of I assume they felt like

1121
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 5: those were their three best run blocking receivers and that

1122
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 5: was like most of the packages that he was on

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00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 5: the field in so long way to say blocking, but

1124
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 5: I thought he wanted a little bit more, so I tried.

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Speaker 1: It courteous of you.

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00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 5: You're a really good block on a duo run that

1127
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 5: Remandre bounced to fourteen yards. You're a really good block there.

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00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: I pointed out to Paul when it was happening real time.

1129
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, make sure you saw it.

1130
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 5: A really good job of like not I don't remember

1131
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 5: that either. Once once Remandra once the ball bounced and

1132
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 5: Remondre started to run by him, of letting go, because like,

1133
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 5: if you don't and the defender just reaches like this,

1134
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 5: you're gonna get called for holding. So it was a

1135
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 5: really good block. There's your block talk.

1136
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 3: Let's go to Jason in Connecticut. What's up Jason?

1137
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 9: Hey, gentlemen, how are we doing today? So first of all,

1138
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 9: I want to start with a little praise, because you

1139
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 9: guys deserve it. I say this a few times, I've

1140
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 9: called I've already said it, but Paul, you are my

1141
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 9: absolute favorite force personality in the entire industry.

1142
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 3: Personality.

1143
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 4: Praise, Thank you.

1144
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: Ja subscribed that go ahead.

1145
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 4: It's one of the nicest things anyone's ever said to me.

1146
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 9: And you know that. I think I've been listening for

1147
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 9: about fifteen years and the show I think is the

1148
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 9: best it's ever been. Juice Evan, you had so much

1149
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 9: Fred you're a king maker, like You've put together just

1150
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 9: the asked little best show.

1151
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1152
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 5: So I have a couple of blown away by all

1153
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 5: this praise.

1154
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're.

1155
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 9: I I have a couple of questions that I think

1156
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 9: Andy Hart would be asking right now if you know

1157
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 9: a part of the show, and I'll take my answers

1158
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 9: off air. But they're I think they're pretty reminiscent of

1159
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 9: what he's saying back when he was a member of

1160
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 9: the show. Worst question is is this a playoff team

1161
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 9: or is it a team that will make the playoffs?

1162
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 9: And my second ques will this season be a failure

1163
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 9: if they don't win a playoff game? Pick my answer

1164
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 9: at the air, thank you so much for everything you do.

1165
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, those are two questions that Andy would probably ask. Yeah,

1166
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 4: I would say definitively, no, it's not a you make

1167
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: the playoffs. And if you make the playoffs and lose

1168
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 4: a game, I don't think it. I mean, it's disappointing, but.

1169
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 11: Very disappointing, not a failure, especially if you're at home

1170
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 11: and you magine, like, let's.

1171
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 4: Just say, for arguments sake, you win the division and

1172
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 4: you host the Pittsburgh at the audust how about the

1173
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 4: surging Baltimore Ravens. Sure right, you're going to call that,

1174
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: you know, a failure if you can't be a team

1175
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 4: that was supposed to go to the super Bowl before

1176
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 4: the season started but for a lot of different reasons

1177
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: found themselves as the last wild card or whatever. You know, Yeah,

1178
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: squeaked in not a failure. The first one I don't

1179
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 4: think we have enough information on you. I mean before

1180
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 4: a playoff team or a team that's going to make

1181
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 4: the play.

1182
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 11: I mean the way man is playing right now, I

1183
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 11: would say that if he continues to play like that,

1184
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 11: that should be a playoff team. You have an MVP

1185
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 11: candidate playing at that kind of high level end.

1186
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 4: But I need to see him play against other teams

1187
00:52:59,320 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 4: before I can.

1188
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 8: I think even if, even if they don't win a

1189
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 8: playoff game. Though, like the beginning of this season, none

1190
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 8: of us had any expectations, and we're like, a successful

1191
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 8: season looks like a sizeable year two jump for Drake

1192
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 8: May and I think we already.

1193
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 3: You took the words out of my mouth before the season.

1194
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 3: Before the season, I said, you know, people, we had

1195
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: the discussion for you what would be a successful season?

1196
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: I said, for me, you're competitive in games, and you

1197
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 3: in Drake May is knowing you have the knowing you

1198
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: have the guy.

1199
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: But that can never change.

1200
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 3: No, but that's what I said before the season.

1201
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 5: No, No, but they're good at that.

1202
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 4: And no, but I would agree with that.

1203
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: But do you agree like.

1204
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 5: I think that there is a lot to be said

1205
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 5: for proof of concept of winning a playoff game, like

1206
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 5: I keep on going back to it, but like if

1207
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 5: they make the playoffs, like the mac Jones Patriots made

1208
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 5: the playoffs, and then.

1209
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: They get to be a disappointed and they get you know,

1210
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 4: their doors boarding off of them in the wildcard round.

1211
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 5: Maybe it's not forty seven to seventeen, but but they

1212
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 5: weren't competitive, right, they didn't. They weren't ever going to

1213
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 5: win the game. I do think that dad kind of

1214
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 5: gets you into a position and of well, is this

1215
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 5: who we are or where we actually a tend win team?

1216
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 5: And like it are you.

1217
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Speaker 3: See that season? I wouldn't consider a failure for this team.

1218
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 5: It's not a failure. It's just it presents more uncertainty

1219
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 5: going into the off season of like how good were

1220
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 5: you really and like how far away are you really sure?

1221
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 5: Versus if you want a playoffs way, I need.

1222
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 4: To know more before I can answer the first question

1223
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 4: the second question. I don't think there's any way we

1224
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 4: could say failure.

1225
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 5: No, not a failure. It's not a failure. It's just

1226
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 5: you know, again going into next off season, like how

1227
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 5: good do you feel about their roster and about not

1228
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 5: necessarily about Vrabel, but about the.

1229
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 11: Roster right, Like, how many times are the past couple

1230
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 11: years when we went to seven teams in each conference,

1231
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 11: do you feel like the seventh team is like this

1232
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 11: is a flawed It's Steelers, like you know, the last

1233
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 11: three years, they don't really have a chance. But you

1234
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 11: know where we sit right now today And Paul, you

1235
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 11: kind of rattled it off. Is there any team right

1236
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 11: now that you'll be like, they don't have a chance

1237
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 11: in the AC.

1238
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: Like you know it, I'll put them up against anybody

1239
00:54:59,120 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: and see you.

1240
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, today, but I definitely change my opinion on that.

1241
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 4: Like Kansas City looks like they're going to be a

1242
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 4: much different you know, in about a month than they

1243
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: were the first month of the season.

1244
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1245
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 11: Sure, And Buffalo starts surgery and you got to go

1246
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 11: to Buffalo's that's all right.

1247
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Speaker 3: I won't be here, but I'll be back before picks.

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Speaker 3: Uh So, all right, yeah, taking a break.

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Speaker 11: All right, we're excited to be joined this week after

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Speaker 11: practice with Mike on when you Mike, thanks for stopping

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Speaker 11: by here.

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Speaker 1: Off the practice field. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 11: Look, you've been here a while, your sixth season. Now,

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Speaker 11: you've been through some ups and downs. Just what are

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Speaker 11: the vibes like right now? You guys are want four

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Speaker 11: games in a row. Seems like things are pretty positive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the vibes are good. Horror Mission.

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Speaker 13: You know, each week we're improving, looking at last week

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Speaker 13: and trying to improve on last week and just really

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Speaker 13: trying to be a better team. You know, as the

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Speaker 13: week's going, you know, we got to improve and put

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Speaker 13: better tape out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what was the We had a good locker room

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00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 4: video after that Tennessee when I know that meant a

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00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 4: lot to Coach Rabels, and it seemed like it meant

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Speaker 4: a lot to you guys too, like the just the

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Speaker 4: reactions of the on the all the players faces.

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00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 3: What was that environment like for you?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it was a great feeling. I think we all

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00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 13: just embodied that win. I' suly it was for coach

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00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 13: Rabel and it was where he was before, so I

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Speaker 13: mean we wanted that win badly, but also I mean

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Speaker 13: every week we want to wins, but that one specifically

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00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 13: for Coach Rabel.

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Speaker 11: Want to ask you a little bout your offensive line.

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00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 11: You got two new guys, two new vets next year.

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Speaker 11: Me Morgan Mos he's like the pied piper in the

1317
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 11: locker room, cracking me up. You know, what has it

1318
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 11: been like with those guys, both on the field and

1319
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 11: off the field. And Garrett, Yeah, it's been very solid.

1320
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 11: On the field.

1321
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 13: I mean it's been great playing next to Garrett and

1322
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 13: Mo both smart players, both great players in the locker room.

1323
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 13: I mean, is it's you know, it's fun all around.

1324
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 13: You know guys that's been around, older guys, but you

1325
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 13: know they've seen a lot and you know we can

1326
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 13: pass out about a lot and just have fun.

1327
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: For the oil.

1328
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: Is it.

1329
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 11: I always felt like there's a little bit of a

1330
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 11: period the beginning of the season. You need some time

1331
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 11: for chemistry and kind of get to know each other

1332
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 11: a little bit.

1333
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: Is that Is that the case.

1334
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 11: With like, you know guys like this now you played

1335
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 11: you know, handful of games with them.

1336
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, I would say, I mean it's obviously you know,

1337
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 13: as as an olne, you want to build that over time,

1338
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 13: and you know before the season. I mean it comes

1339
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 13: to spring, the summer and you know, working through camping

1340
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 13: and all that. But you know it's been built up

1341
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 13: and you know we've got a girt relationship everyone on

1342
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 13: the line in a long room.

1343
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: So it's it's been good.

1344
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 4: So we talked to coach Vabel at this press conference.

1345
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 4: All the time he talks to us about turning the

1346
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 4: page after the Monday following the game. So it's Cleveland

1347
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 4: this week and obviously some some big names up on

1348
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 4: that defensive line. What's what's the process been like preparing

1349
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 4: for that group this week.

1350
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, they have a good line, they have

1351
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 13: a good defense overall, So I mean it's you know,

1352
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 13: for us as an O line, we're focused on our

1353
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 13: guys and our matchups. Like you said, they have a

1354
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 13: bunch of great players, so you know, we're just going

1355
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 13: to do our thing, focused, game plan and get ready

1356
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 13: for the game.

1357
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 4: What have you seen from the rookie Mason Graham. I'm

1358
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: just curious if you've got any interaction with him, you know,

1359
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 4: from from Michigan.

1360
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1361
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, I went back a couple of times and we've spoken.

1362
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 13: Always saw him and KG was a great player, you know,

1363
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 13: coming out in the same year. I think he's going

1364
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 13: to be a great player. But you know, to be

1365
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 13: fun going against him.

1366
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 11: Like, what do you I got to ask you about

1367
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 11: Drake just he is on a heater right now. What's

1368
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 11: it like for you as an offensive lineman You're blocking

1369
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 11: for a player like that and you're you know, watching

1370
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 11: the ball go down the field, scores all that.

1371
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm trying not to watch the ball, but it's fun.

1372
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 13: You know, you block and then you look back and

1373
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 13: you see the ball going over your head and just

1374
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 13: you know, scoring on those it's like last week, but

1375
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 13: it's fun. It's you know, is he electric? Playing with

1376
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 13: Drake and you know you just never know what he's

1377
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 13: going to do.

1378
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 11: Hasn't been an adjustment at all for you playing with

1379
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 11: a mobile quarterback like that over the last couple of seasons.

1380
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 3: Not so much.

1381
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 13: I try to keep like on the same spot and

1382
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 13: just knowing where the quarterback is going to be at

1383
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 13: least when he's throwing the ball. But you know, you

1384
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 13: can't account for stuff like that, but just always trying

1385
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 13: to stay on my guy and just make sure he

1386
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 13: doesn't affect a quarterback.

1387
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 4: I was exciting has it been for you guys? You know,

1388
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 4: the last couple of years the offense has quite frankly struggled.

1389
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: But this year, you guys are moving the ball virtually

1390
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 4: every game. You're putting points on the board, and just

1391
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 4: how rewarding has that been?

1392
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 13: Part of it has been very just as an olon.

1393
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, it starts with us. So when

1394
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 13: the plays work, you know, it's we're obviously doing a

1395
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 13: good job. When they don't, you know, we got to

1396
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 13: do a better job. So that's been our main focus

1397
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 13: every game. Just focusing on on our jobs as olon,

1398
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 13: creating lanes and creating space for rejected throw the ball.

1399
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 4: And what do you remember, you know, like what has

1400
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 4: it been like with Josh, you know, back running this offense,

1401
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 4: and how has it been for you with the McDaniels.

1402
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 13: Yeah, I was saying it's I mean, I'm not gonna

1403
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 13: say it's the same Josh. You know, he's the same guy,

1404
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 13: a great coach. So it's been fun getting back to

1405
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 13: work with him. And I think he's been bringing new

1406
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 13: things to the table this year, into the playbook this year,

1407
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 13: which you know, as we've been seeing through the games.

1408
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 13: I mean we've been having some chunk plays, some electric

1409
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 13: plays and you know, just throw the ball down the field.

1410
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: Wrap it up. You guys have been on the road

1411
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: for three weeks. You're finally back home.

1412
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Speaker 11: You know how important is it to get back home

1413
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Speaker 11: and really establish this place as a home field event?

1414
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Speaker 3: Is very important?

1415
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 13: You know, it's uh we got to established one in

1416
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 13: winning at home and uh, making teams feel that when

1417
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 13: they come into.

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Speaker 4: Does that make any sense? I think the Patriots almost

1447
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 4: stole one. They were in position to steal the game.

1448
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 4: They're on the twenty five yard line, up three with

1449
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 4: five minutes. You've got to put that game. Well, I

1450
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 4: would say that they were better.

1451
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 3: But when you dropped the ball five six times, does

1452
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 3: that make you the better team?

1453
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it means you were better. You just you just

1454
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 4: didn't execute.

1455
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 3: So when you drop the ball makes you better? Yeah?

1456
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 4: They were they. I mean, these guys just told you

1457
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 4: how open these guys were. You were lucky, you know.

1458
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 3: But if you drop the ball, you dropped the ball.

1459
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: That's that's a lack of execution.

1460
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 5: Right, he would have found four hundred.

1461
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 4: If you're better talented than the other team, Yes, you

1462
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 4: did what you wanted to do, more than they did

1463
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 4: what they.

1464
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: Wanted to do. I think they wanted to catch the ball.

1465
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 4: Did you ever see anybody so maddening as this?

1466
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 3: Right?

1467
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 4: Like, right, I know they wanted to make the field

1468
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 4: goal to Fred, but the other guy blocked it. That's

1469
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 4: a bad that's bad execution exactly, right, So what like

1470
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 4: what are we doing?

1471
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: That's another great moment.

1472
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 11: All right, welcome back, and yes, the malcontents Fred Kersh

1473
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 11: and Evan Lazar have left the show briefly, so we'll

1474
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 11: have a little bit of piece here before picks.

1475
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 4: When I ever thought that I would remain on the

1476
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 4: set and somehow piece has been restored.

1477
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 11: I think my favorite part was when Paul would just

1478
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 11: like to remind us, like I can play both sides,

1479
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 11: like I could, I could.

1480
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 3: Go the.

1481
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 4: No, when Fred started saying you don't have to take

1482
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 4: the quarterback or.

1483
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: Had an easy start to the show, We're just hang out.

1484
01:04:59,040 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: That was fun.

1485
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 4: Evan very Fos was like the great uniter.

1486
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 8: She was like, you guys yourselves yourselves without even realizing

1487
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 8: it started with you being like, well, friend, Chill, I'm

1488
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 8: not going.

1489
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 3: I mean not doing the whole.

1490
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 4: You don't need to take the quarterback in the first time.

1491
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 11: Maybe I need your advice all because sometimes I feel

1492
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 11: like it said, when you're on the outside of an

1493
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 11: argument and you don't really feel like you're in it,

1494
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 11: and then like is it annoying? Then with somebody from

1495
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 11: the outside just comes in and it's like starts jumping

1496
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 11: in with.

1497
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, their take, and it's like you're not even

1498
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: in the argument.

1499
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 4: So you were listening and you were staying on the outside,

1500
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 4: and I was sort of on the outside. But every

1501
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 4: once in a while I would interject, Now, was it annoying? No?

1502
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 11: No, no, But but I felt like I would have

1503
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 11: been with you and Fred and I, you know, and

1504
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 11: I felt Evan was kind of like, you know, that was.

1505
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be. I kind of agree with you.

1506
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 8: Changed, Like I feel like we know Evan well enough

1507
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 8: to know that, like when he's in.

1508
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 7: That certain tone, he's serious. Oh man, he just he

1509
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 7: just took that octople.

1510
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 11: I would just say, I think Evan adores football and

1511
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 11: like the amount that he thinks about it and studies

1512
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 11: it and.

1513
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 4: And I just think that's part of it, is because

1514
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 4: he studies so much of the tape and the film

1515
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 4: and you know, the draft picks. Like he's enamored with

1516
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 4: the draft picks. You know, like it's always about what

1517
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 4: you know, what potential might be around the corner. And

1518
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 4: I think that's the way he looks at it.

1519
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: But I think we found some common ground. I think

1520
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: we I think we put it behind us, but you

1521
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: never know.

1522
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 11: We'll see how things go next Tuesday when we get

1523
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 11: back into it after the week. But let's so to

1524
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 11: the phones here, guys, so to bang this out before

1525
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 11: we got got picks, right, I'm kind of excited about

1526
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 11: let's go to I think it's Michael in Michigan.

1527
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: Hey, Michael, could also be Michelle.

1528
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 4: Michael Michelle, good job, Duce felling Bread doesn't drop calls

1529
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:55,959
Speaker 4: somebody with my own name.

1530
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 3: It's definitely Michael.

1531
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 11: Oh, Michael, it's ae l a a right, let's go

1532
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 11: about boat.

1533
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 4: Not if it's Michael ray Rage.

1534
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: It's easy Bo South Carolina.

1535
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 4: Hey Bo, Yeah, good job, Duce.

1536
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 7: Do you think they heard way for a second, they heard.

1537
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: My voice and they're like, no, Fred's not there.

1538
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 4: I don't want to deal with this.

1539
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: All right, We're going right down the line. Eric Lunenberg,

1540
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: come on, Eric, come through for me.

1541
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 3: Eric.

1542
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: No, oh for three?

1543
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 3: Duce ouch ouch.

1544
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 4: That really is what you push away from the Blackjack kid.

1545
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I'm not winning today.

1546
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 4: That's my that's my rule. I'm gonna jump over. You're out.

1547
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, call back if you really want to

1548
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: talk to us. I'll be back soon. Uh got one

1549
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: from Jack, he says.

1550
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 11: My question, how can we get Trevion going against the

1551
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 11: Browns this week will be an interesting matchup seeing his

1552
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 11: college teammate Judkins on the other side. Man he thought

1553
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 11: Henderson was the better prospect in the pre draft process.

1554
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 11: It mirrors the Chubb Michell debate almost identically. Let's hope

1555
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 11: you end up on the better side this time around.

1556
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 11: What do you think about that comparison, PAULI.

1557
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 4: I think it's similar. Yeah, yeah, you know, two teammates,

1558
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 4: different styles. Judkins was more of the traditional between the tackles,

1559
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 4: you know, lead back type, you know, early down type,

1560
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 4: and Henderson was a little bit more of a you know,

1561
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 4: kind of a third down, well rounded home run hitter,

1562
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 4: you know, get him on the edges, kind of similar

1563
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 4: to the way we felt about Chubb in Michelle. Now,

1564
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 4: what we didn't know about Michelle at the time was

1565
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 4: the injuries that he came into the league with, how

1566
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 4: bad his knee was when he was drafted. So I

1567
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 4: don't think he was ever quite as dynamic as we

1568
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: were led to be. Henderson is. We saw, We saw

1569
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 4: the explosiveness in the summer, so hopefully there's still And

1570
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 4: I agree, I think there's a chance that maybe, you know,

1571
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 4: Cleveland is a really tough run defense, So maybe the

1572
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 4: way you try to run the ball is a little

1573
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 4: bit differently. Maybe it's you know, some draws out of

1574
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 4: the Spring had some you know, get to get to the.

1575
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: Edges, use their aggressiveness against.

1576
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 4: Correct you know. I think if you want to line

1577
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 4: up and just run, you know, Bill Belichick used to

1578
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 4: say all the time, if you want to line up

1579
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 4: and run your head into the into a brick wall,

1580
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 4: you know that, you know what I remember, like the

1581
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 4: famous Minnesota Monday Night game back on April five, six

1582
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 4: ish Gabriel game. You know, it's like they got Pat

1583
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 4: Williams and Kevin Williams and the inside and no one

1584
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 4: could run for a yard. And I think that they

1585
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 4: ran Corey Dillon on the first down of the game

1586
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 4: and he got nothing, and they just fifty times by

1587
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 4: design that's how they wanted to do it.

1588
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: I like that.

1589
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 11: And then I talked a little bit with that on

1590
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 11: the preview just maybe you know, screen game getting him

1591
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 11: out in space a little bit. I think everybody would

1592
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 11: like to see that. But Judkins has been pretty good.

1593
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 4: I mean, Judkins has been powerful, and he's like, to me,

1594
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 4: more reminiscent of Nick Chubby, you know who.

1595
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 11: Like the wheels just fall off the bus with these guys,

1596
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 11: does that make sense?

1597
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 4: Well, he also had a major injured.

1598
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that one?

1599
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 4: Blew out his knee, then whole knee, the whole knee.

1600
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 11: David writes in just honestly, I love watching you all.

1601
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 11: It's like watching family get together for the holidays every week,

1602
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 11: nothing but arguing it between. However, the analysis are The

1603
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:18,440
Speaker 11: analyses are fantastic, The people of analyzes very educational.

1604
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: Thank you for that. In addition, Happy belated birthday to Alex.

1605
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 11: I turned thirty one before Alex was born, and life

1606
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 11: continues to be fantastic. Keep it going, life, goods, good year.

1607
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 11: That life doesn't end after thirty Alex.

1608
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 1: Don't worry.

1609
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 11: And I think you saw this email, Alex. Someone sent

1610
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 11: in their wedding cake. This Morgan from South Dakota. We

1611
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 11: alady got married and had a Patriots theme wedding cake.

1612
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 11: Here's a picture of fantasy question should I start Drake

1613
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 11: versus Cleveland or Baker versus New Orleans Drake? Also, what

1614
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 11: do you think about the fourth, fourth, and fifteenth possibility

1615
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 11: replacing the onside kick?

1616
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: We talked a little about that.

1617
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't love it.

1618
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: I don't love it either.

1619
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 7: Subscribe to the newsletter to see that wedding cake.

1620
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 11: Yeah, did you have any Patriots stuff at your wedding call?

1621
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 11: I know you were working, so that's probably bringing work.

1622
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 4: Patriots the wedding.

1623
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 3: No.

1624
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 4: The only thing I had is our entrance music was

1625
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 4: crazy train okay when the wedding party got okay.

1626
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like if Evan had a bigger wedding, he would

1627
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 8: have something.

1628
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: It would have been like an all twenty two thing.

1629
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 4: But I didn't have anything in terms of likeation.

1630
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: What was it garter? Yeah, he garter. That was the

1631
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: little Patriots thing. So you know the tradition were you

1632
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: take the garter off there? It was the Patriots.

1633
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 4: I didn't do that.

1634
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: I didn't do that tradition. Did they still do that tradition?

1635
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 3: For sure?

1636
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 7: I haven't. None of my friends have had it, and

1637
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 7: god knows i've been to.

1638
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, but we didn't do the whole god thing.

1639
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, even the bouquet. You don't see as much. I

1640
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 7: like the bouquet.

1641
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, she she threw it from like up top too.

1642
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 4: It was like it was like a salcony and she

1643
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 4: threw it.

1644
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: I think in any of those situations, though, there were

1645
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: at least two girls who really want it. They really

1646
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: want it bad.

1647
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 4: Which always amazes me because this no guys. I've seen

1648
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 4: guys literally go up. Then I've I've been one of them,

1649
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 4: like hands and pockets that this thing is the only

1650
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 4: way I could possibly get is if it sticks to me.

1651
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: The girls are like getting ready to elbow each other.

1652
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 4: And I did have a girlfriend that caught the bouquet one.

1653
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: Double faced palm on that one, and then you broke

1654
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: up with her not long after.

1655
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 4: All right, I'm not saying that was or wasn't the reason.

1656
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 11: But it was like, I gotta cut this loose, go

1657
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 11: back to the phones. Of course, Patty, always great to

1658
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 11: hear from you on a non game day. How are

1659
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 11: things during the week for you.

1660
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:40,839
Speaker 3: Terrible?

1661
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 15: So I'll just say a couple of things scare me

1662
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 15: in this game. Number one is Miles heard obviously Hall

1663
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 15: the same player, And I think the tit ands are

1664
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 15: pretty good, like Sannon is quietly having a good rookie season,

1665
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 15: and of course and Jokos as a decent player. And

1666
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 15: that's what we've seen that we've we've struggled against all

1667
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 15: a year long. Is covering the middle of the field.

1668
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 15: So just a couple of things that I worry about,

1669
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 15: But I don't think it's going to be enough those

1670
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 15: two variables. Fella, Cleveland win. I got our pass win

1671
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 15: in this week, twenty seven to ten.

1672
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice, Patty. It's kind of where I'm at too.

1673
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 11: But I'd just love to see the defense choke out

1674
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 11: a bad offense from minute one to minute sixty.

1675
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 4: That's my biggest thing. I know everybody is looking to

1676
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 4: see what the offense looks like against the good defense.

1677
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 4: I just think offenses generally move the ball when they're

1678
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 4: good offenses. I'm more curious to see if they can

1679
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 4: take one of these bad offenses and make them look

1680
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 4: like a bad offense.

1681
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 11: Yeah, right out of the gate, right out of the game,

1682
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 11: don't give just you know, ten for ten, first drive

1683
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 11: right down the field, didn't even face a third down.

1684
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm over those. Go out to Cali. Hate Tim, what's

1685
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: going on?

1686
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 3: Everybody?

1687
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 10: Happy delated birthday there, Alex. Give you some hope at

1688
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 10: the age of thirty four. I actually moved to Austraia

1689
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 10: for a couple of years, so you're not dead yet.

1690
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 10: But the reason I was Colin was. I was scurious, Paul,

1691
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 10: if you do get to talk to Logan or like

1692
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 10: any of the former O linemen like David Andrews, like,

1693
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,799
Speaker 10: I think, curious to get their take on Garrett Wilson

1694
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 10: and also Marcus Bryant's development, because I think a lot

1695
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 10: of the nuanced Alex pointed out, you know, see the

1696
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 10: draft person you know, free agency things is player development,

1697
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 10: and I think those two are very young people who

1698
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 10: have a great upside with their athletic ability. And I'd

1699
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 10: love to hear what you know some of those guys

1700
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 10: opinions are on the development of the O line.

1701
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 4: And Will Campbell yeah, yeah.

1702
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 10: And well I think will personality mirror Logan's a lot.

1703
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 10: I remember reading an article when they drafted Logan Mankins

1704
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 10: out of Present of the State. Yeah, he was to

1705
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 10: step on people in college.

1706
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 4: Well just very soft spoken, quiet guys, but intense. Yeah,

1707
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 4: I mean I could I see, I see you comp

1708
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 4: there in terms of their personalities. Now, I think, actually.

1709
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 10: When when when he when he gets interviewed, he's very

1710
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 10: thoughtful in all of that. I haven't heard any really

1711
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 10: thing from Marcus Bryant yet, but I would be curious

1712
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,919
Speaker 10: on your take on those guys.

1713
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 1: In the Futuressim.

1714
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we do get a chance every once

1715
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 4: in a while to see David Andrews. He was in

1716
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 4: the last home game, he was in the office. I

1717
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 4: think it's also a little bit tough for those guys.

1718
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 4: I mean, they just especially Andrews, he just came out

1719
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 4: of that locker room, you know, so I don't ye

1720
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 4: not telling you. He's not telling you what he really thinks.

1721
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 4: But I'm not sure he's telling you what he really thinks.

1722
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 11: It's just so funny to go to see these guys

1723
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 11: go from the locker room and being a player, and

1724
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 11: you feel, you know, there's kind of like a dividing line,

1725
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 11: and you don't really know how these guys view us

1726
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 11: and the media generally and what we do. And then

1727
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 11: all of a sudden their career ends and they're right

1728
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 11: in it with us and doing the same kind of analysis,

1729
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 11: and you know, it's just asking the same questions and

1730
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 11: you know.

1731
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: Tweet hey Patriots fans, what are you thinking about? I'm like,

1732
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: this is just bizarre, Like, you know, you were in.

1733
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 11: The locker room, you know, actually on the team not

1734
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 11: too long ago, and now you know, here we are

1735
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 11: all covering this sport.

1736
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 8: And he's doing it with a former teammate, which is

1737
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 8: even funnier too, because horror is a little more removed.

1738
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: But still, yeah, I mean this, that's another part of it.

1739
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 11: That like when if your team gets good, it's like

1740
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 11: it's not only good for the good players, it's good

1741
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 11: for guys like bot Zolac and Brian Hoyer and you

1742
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 11: know guys who just you know Brian Hoyer maybe you

1743
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 11: know he's known in Cleveland a little bit, but you know,

1744
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 11: these guys become known names around here.

1745
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: David Andrews.

1746
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 11: Everybody knows and loves David Andrews, and it's an easy,

1747
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 11: you know, transition, especially in Boston. I don't know if

1748
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 11: that happens everywhere. I would guess to some extent, but

1749
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 11: I don't local.

1750
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 4: Stuff I think is there's a lot. I mean, if

1751
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 4: you listen to like the radio broadcast, almost all of

1752
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 4: them have a former players the color analyst. But what

1753
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 4: the Patriots did was to so many you know, Rodney Harrison,

1754
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 4: Teddy Bruski, Uh, you know Gronk Uh, Gronk Edelman.

1755
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 3: You know, they become national guys.

1756
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 4: You know, the mccordy Twins, like because of their ties

1757
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 4: to the Patriots, I think, you know, their popularity around

1758
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 4: the league is pretty evan. I mean Keith Evans. Heith

1759
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 4: Evans was on NFL Network for a while. Willie McGinnis,

1760
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 4: you know these guys. I don't think that just every

1761
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 4: team gets all of those, but I think when you win,

1762
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 4: like the Patriots did for twenty years, those names become household,

1763
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 4: household names, and they get opportunities.

1764
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,440
Speaker 7: Especially if you're talented, like I think the excellent.

1765
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 3: And I say that unbiased.

1766
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: I think I'm not sure which one, but one of

1767
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: them is better than the other one. Wow, So I'm

1768
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: not sure it might be Jason, because they do different.

1769
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 4: Jason makes fun of Devon all the time by saying

1770
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 4: that he's better he's on the network, and Devin's more

1771
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 4: of a studio guy. So like that.

1772
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 3: They're funny.

1773
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: They're in the studio guys. Set up to New Hampshire. Hey, justin,

1774
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: thanks for calling in, Maria Taylor, Justin London, Barrison London Berry, damn,

1775
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: so much was about to go off the rails. Here

1776
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: we go, here, here she comes the Nico.

1777
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 7: I need to take a picture of this.

1778
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: Hello, the Nico what's up?

1779
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 10: Hello the guys.

1780
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 12: I actually just wanted to jump on quickly to which

1781
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 12: my best friend Alex a happy belated birthday.

1782
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 7: Thanks Nico, love you.

1783
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: Thanks Nico. Any any questions about the Patriots.

1784
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 7: Are you sad you're not still here now that we're winning?

1785
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 9: No, because I'm going to Florida right now, so I'm

1786
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 9: living the life.

1787
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: Oh all right, Nico. Well, thanks for Colin.

1788
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I miss you guys.

1789
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 10: Hopefully I'll see you soon.

1790
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: All right, Nico. Thanks bye.

1791
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 7: I talk to her every day.

1792
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: She still calls it pice for she kicking in on

1793
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: you know. Uh. Email here from Christian from Virginia.

1794
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 11: Kick returns are looking a bit flat with Chisholm, and

1795
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 11: I'm wondering why we don't have Travon Henderson back there.

1796
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 11: I understand we don't want to risk losing more running

1797
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 11: back depth, but he's not getting in any offensive touches.

1798
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: We drafted him with a high second round pick.

1799
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 11: We need to get him on the field, and if

1800
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 11: they don't like him at running back right now, they

1801
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 11: might as well have him returning kicks. I definitely don't

1802
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 11: don't disagree about the kick returns being a little flat.

1803
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 8: But I do disagree with like getting him on the field,

1804
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 8: because I think he's been on the field.

1805
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like last week, it was definitely pulled

1806
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 11: back that I think Brabel said we felt like Romandre

1807
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 11: was rolling a little bit and we kind of wanted

1808
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 11: to stick with him. But we've talked about a plenty now.

1809
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 11: They just it's gonna be hard to get through the

1810
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 11: rest of the season. Just Romandra Stevenson a sprinkling of

1811
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,879
Speaker 11: Travon Henderson when you absolutely have to hopefully he improves

1812
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 11: it again. I just keep going back to James White,

1813
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 11: and you know, as much as this kid was billed

1814
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 11: as he's coming ready to pass protect.

1815
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: In the NFL, it's there's been a learning carve for him.

1816
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 11: And Evans talked about how complicated it is, so you know,

1817
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 11: I just I think we need a little bit of

1818
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 11: patience with him. I still have a lot of confidence that,

1819
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 11: you know, James White was nowhere close to what James

1820
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 11: White was, you know, in twenty fifteen, and then the

1821
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 11: year later he's scoring multiple times in the Super Bowl.

1822
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 11: So I get it though, and I think they I mean,

1823
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 11: and this is a great example of how it hurts

1824
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 11: when you lost Antonio Gibson and not only hurt the

1825
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 11: running back depth, but now you've got to protect Henderson

1826
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 11: a little bit, and it kills both your lead kickoff returners.

1827
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 11: So I get the idea, but they got to find

1828
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 11: a way, find a way to get both those.

1829
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 1: Positions back up and running at a plus level.

1830
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 4: Plus plus, let's plus, we're gonna plus it up a

1831
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 4: little bit.

1832
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: Do you want to listener on?

1833
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 11: Listener Crime from Cody Cody and Indiana. Hey, guys, so

1834
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 11: Captain Moron in La starts off his call saying, you

1835
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 11: have to draft in the top half for three years

1836
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 11: to build a team.

1837
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: So Rabes, here's the plan.

1838
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 11: I need you to lose the rest of the games

1839
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 11: this year and then lose about ten or eleven next year,

1840
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 11: and then do that again in twenty twenty seven.

1841
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: That is the only way we can be a good team.

1842
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: Good Lord, I swear this.

1843
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,719
Speaker 4: I says, ass hat I wouldn't.

1844
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't. Is just trolling. Hang up the phone sooner, Fred,

1845
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: that's from Cody and Indiana. So Director's thoughts to him, Christian.

1846
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think you know we all yeah, I

1847
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: mean we all get it.

1848
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 4: I think we've exhausted that one right, Hey, Eddie and

1849
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 4: LA's got a good one.

1850
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 1: You'll like, Paul, I have a trade idea tight end Isaiah.

1851
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 3: Likely ever time.

1852
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't see that happening.

1853
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 1: They're not going to unload one of their young.

1854
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 4: I was gonna say they might unload Mark Kansas right.

1855
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 4: But again, I think there's a an element of whistling

1856
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 4: past the graveyard among the AFC teams. Like Baltimore is dead.

1857
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 4: I just you got to kill that team before I

1858
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 4: you know, I'm talking about They're eliminated from postseason contention. Dead,

1859
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 4: Like do you think it would be out of the

1860
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 4: remo possibility that they could like win eight of the

1861
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 4: next ten.

1862
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 1: No. In some ways, I feel like this is the adversity.

1863
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: Maybe they finally need to like split that switch. And

1864
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: but if you had to.

1865
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 11: Bet right now between Buffalo, Baltimore and Kansas City, who

1866
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 11: would you say your money will be on to go

1867
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 11: to farthest.

1868
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:39,480
Speaker 1: In the playoffs?

1869
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 7: Buffalo for me?

1870
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 4: Buffalo, I think, But right now Kansas City has played

1871
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 4: the best.

1872
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: Kansas City.

1873
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:52,799
Speaker 4: I think Kansas City is still a little a little flawed.

1874
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 4: But if you're asking me if Buffalo and Kansas City

1875
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 4: are playing in the AFC Championship Game. I'll take Kansas

1876
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 4: City into otherwise.

1877
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 11: I know it was Paul, You'll you'll have good perspective

1878
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 11: on this because I feel like with Kansas City the

1879
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 11: last few years, there's been like moments where people feel

1880
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 11: they can bury them a little bit. There have been

1881
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 11: injuries or there's just you know, they've had a you know,

1882
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 11: this year a great example, they had a you know,

1883
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 11: bad record start. But yeah, I don't think they started

1884
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 11: great the last two years. Maybe I'm wrong on that

1885
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 11: last show they went Okay, that's not not But wasn't

1886
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 11: there like a feeling of like they.

1887
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: Won a bunch of one win games, one score games.

1888
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 11: And like they were kind of winning Like were the

1889
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 11: Patriots always like that? Like were the Patriots every year

1890
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 11: when they were you know, kicking everybody's butt? Did it

1891
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 11: come in like this is the year to get the Patriots?

1892
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: Like I don't really.

1893
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 11: Remember them really having I mean maybe because I wasn't

1894
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 11: like in it, like you guys, they.

1895
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 4: Had years that weren't as good as others, and some

1896
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 4: of them ended up with Super Bowls and some of

1897
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 4: them didn't, you know, like I thought there were there

1898
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 4: were times where they looked vulnerable, like you know, five

1899
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 4: oh six, you know, oh, I saw real flaws.

1900
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: Oh nins ten to eleven had real flaws, you.

1901
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, you know, and fourteen people were openly wondering

1902
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 4: nationwide if they were any good anymore. Trent Dilfer, you know,

1903
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 4: they're not good anymore. And then the two and two

1904
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 4: and yeah, don't go on and win the super Like.

1905
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 11: I just I'm wondering if this stuff is real or

1906
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 11: if this is kind of created by us because you're

1907
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 11: just kind of sick of the Chiefs winning and everybody

1908
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 11: wants it to be like, well, what's who's the next Dyne?

1909
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: Is he going to be?

1910
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 11: And I think we've seen over the course with many

1911
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 11: different sports that people get sick of the same team

1912
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 11: winning over and over.

1913
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 4: And I agree with that, and I just would say

1914
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 4: it's real that there's some vulnerability. Like when people were

1915
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 4: wondering if the Patriots were quite as good, you know,

1916
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 4: as they had been in the past. They weren't wrong.

1917
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 4: What they underestimate is sort of that culture that comes

1918
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 4: with it. This is why I think your boy Kyle Brandt,

1919
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 4: Kyle Brandt, right, Yeah, he had a whole rant two

1920
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 4: weeks ago when Kansas City was playing Detroit. Bury them. Now,

1921
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 4: step in their throat, don't let them breathe, don't give

1922
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 4: them life. Now's your chance. The rest of the league

1923
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 4: has Kansas City on the ropes. Yeah, put them out

1924
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 4: of their misery. Otherwise. Now, all of a sudden, two

1925
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,560
Speaker 4: weeks later, people are looking at Kansas City as the

1926
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 4: team to beat in the AOC. They could have been

1927
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 4: two and four. Now. I would not have buried them

1928
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 4: at two and four either, but I understand what what

1929
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 4: Kyle's yeah, you know, point was, you have a chance

1930
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 4: to make it, make them have to go the long way,

1931
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 4: you know, maybe make them a wild card. Now, would

1932
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 4: you be surprised that they end up winning the division?

1933
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely not.

1934
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 11: With San Diego Los Angeles banged up. I mean they're

1935
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 11: floundering a little bit, all right. Hopefully we get Fred

1936
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 11: back soon so we can do picks.

1937
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: We gotta hurry. Hey Kendall, what's going on?

1938
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 6: Hey, what's going on?

1939
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 1: Guys?

1940
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 4: Hey Kendall?

1941
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 9: Hey, I appreciate you shirts?

1942
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 3: Nice?

1943
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got his, he got his shirt, actually got him.

1944
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 4: Email me and let me know that. Yeah, I'm glad.

1945
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 4: I'm glad Matt got them out.

1946
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: To you, good job Matt learned how.

1947
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 6: To millstone and also on what games down the streets

1948
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 6: and I'll take it off, thank you.

1949
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 4: What games down the stretch? Could we see what split?

1950
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 5: Let's just pretend that's what it was.

1951
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 7: We hung up.

1952
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 3: Should we see them slipping up losing?

1953
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

1954
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 11: I mean I have a hard time talking myself into

1955
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 11: the Jets in Miami. I know, you're like, they could

1956
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 11: go those three are are still on the table with

1957
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 11: those three to me kind of feel like you really

1958
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 11: got to have.

1959
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: To lay an egg in those ones.

1960
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 4: I think that they could lose one of the games

1961
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 4: to the Jets. I don't see them losing at home

1962
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 4: to Miami. The Giants game, I think could be a

1963
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 4: oh thank you, sneaky, tough game.

1964
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 3: You know.

1965
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 4: I like to see how Yeah, I want to see

1966
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 4: how the Giants respond to their collapse sometimes, you know,

1967
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 4: bad teams, Yeah, lose a game like that. I'll go

1968
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 4: back a year. Okay, four and two of the Chicago

1969
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 4: Bears were in Washington, you know, ten seconds away from

1970
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 4: going five and two, and they like never won again.

1971
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 4: They think they won one more game out they gave

1972
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 4: up that Hail Mary and their season just unraveled and

1973
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 4: they I think they won one game the rest of

1974
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 4: the season like that. I could see that happening to

1975
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 4: the Giants. The Giant should have won that game Sunday.

1976
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 4: They had a chance to have some little momentum, you know,

1977
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 4: continuing the little bump they've gotten from Jackson Dart. Would

1978
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 4: you be stunned if they got boat raced by the

1979
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 4: Eagles this week in Philly? And really it's surprising you,

1980
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 4: I know, Well, I just thought it's a little peek

1981
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 4: into the picks that are coming up.

1982
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 11: Well, I would just say, like, as brutal as it

1983
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,759
Speaker 11: was to lose that way, I also feel like, shoot,

1984
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 11: you have to take some positives from that that you

1985
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 11: went into Denver.

1986
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: It's a hard place to play. They play every game

1987
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: there and you know, and we're in it.

1988
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 4: The foreshadowing of the picks definitely disappointing the way that

1989
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 4: it all went down, and you know, they had it

1990
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 4: and then they didn't, and then they had it and

1991
01:27:58,360 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 4: then they didn't.

1992
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 11: But I've never seen I didn't see a Patriots four

1993
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 11: win team play a game like that.

1994
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: Over the last year.

1995
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 8: It was like served on a silver platter for them

1996
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 8: to win, like they're just last few plays of the game.

1997
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 8: They're just chucking a deep ball towards the end zone.

1998
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 8: It doesn't work. They do it on fourth down and

1999
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 8: they get a DPI call and you're on the what

2000
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 8: one yard line? And then Sean Payton gets a penalty

2001
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 8: and then you're liket like yeah.

2002
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 11: And when you're a young team, I think that's you know,

2003
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 11: you you give yourself a little bit of grace in

2004
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 11: those games of like, well, shoot, we can score points,

2005
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 11: we can move the ball quick, we can you know again,

2006
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:32,879
Speaker 11: I just go back to that point.

2007
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 4: That game will be more difficult.

2008
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 1: It's funny you thought it would.

2009
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 4: Have been like say, a month ago.

2010
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 8: Yes, even like if you ask us at the beginning

2011
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 8: of the season, look at the schedule and say like,

2012
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 8: are you more worried about playing the Giants or going

2013
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,919
Speaker 8: to Buffalo and playing against Buffalo?

2014
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 4: And right, you know, but yeah, that's what that's That's

2015
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 4: kind of what I'm saying now. It's like, we look

2016
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 4: at a game like that a billion there's no way

2017
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,560
Speaker 4: the Giants are going to beat you. All of a

2018
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 4: sudden they look different.

2019
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what did I miss anything?

2020
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 3: Good?

2021
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 11: Took some calls, talked a little bit we Mike and Fred.

2022
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 4: He took three straight calls Fred and got nothing but

2023
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 4: dial times.

2024
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: Literally you could hear him hang up as soon as

2025
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: I they heard my.

2026
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 4: They wanted no part of talking to Mic. It's really

2027
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 4: kind of embarrassing. Fred left. I got no issues. I

2028
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 4: got no interest.

2029
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: Now.

2030
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 11: I'd say though, for me, generally, pretty much every game

2031
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 11: is just it's it's gonna be.

2032
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 4: I mean the games we know, we know, Buffalo, Baltimore, Cincy, Tampa,

2033
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 4: those games I think everybody would consider those are difficult games.

2034
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,759
Speaker 4: You know, they you know, but out of the games

2035
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 4: that quote unquote you'll you know, be expected to win,

2036
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 4: the Giants is one that I would say might be a.

2037
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: Little more gas rushers, you know what I mean.

2038
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 11: They got they got guys I mean who are really

2039
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 11: good athletes off the.

2040
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 4: Edge, so you know, but fortunately it's at home. Yeah,

2041
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 4: like a Monday night at the meadow Lands, I think

2042
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 4: would be the Giants seem to be they say, yeah,

2043
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 4: they seem to play well in those kinds of spots.

2044
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 11: I just I think you can take confidence from that

2045
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 11: game in Bove as much as they get over the

2046
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 11: way it ended. And like again, like do you ever

2047
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 11: remember the Patriots playing a game like that where you

2048
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:15,440
Speaker 11: know it with the Patriot.

2049
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: Games that they would win would be like, oh man,

2050
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: they other team made some mistakes.

2051
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 11: We grinded out seventeen points and we won seventeen fourteen,

2052
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 11: not you know, we were going up and down the field.

2053
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 11: Then they went up and down the field, you know,

2054
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 11: like those I see positives as young team.

2055
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 4: I mean, that would be a good sign for Brian

2056
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:33,720
Speaker 4: Dable if he's able to do it. But I could

2057
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 4: absolutely see them winning another, like one more game the

2058
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 4: rest of the year, because sometimes those are the game

2059
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 4: we way the same old giants. It ain't happening for

2060
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 4: us this year, no, Malik. I do think they're better

2061
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 4: though in terms of talent, I mean that defensive front.

2062
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 11: There'll be some buzz next year with they get Neighbors

2063
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 11: back and then they you know, Dart year two, depending

2064
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 11: on how it.

2065
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: Goes the rest of the way. But yeah, they'll have

2066
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: a little choice next year.

2067
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,839
Speaker 3: NFL dot Com changed the way they do their schedule.

2068
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 3: They don't list like Universe and all that stuff anymore.

2069
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 3: So I don't I'm you're gonna have to scramble.

2070
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: Look, you want me to bring out a sheet.

2071
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 2: All right, it's that time. So Paul, how did we

2072
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 2: do last week?

2073
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 4: Alex tops the list yet again twelve and three, Wow,

2074
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 4: very good, followed by Mike at eleven and four.

2075
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 3: Against the spread, Paul and.

2076
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 4: Fred ten and five, and Evan didn't obviously have a

2077
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 4: top five draft pick. He's trying to get picked.

2078
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 3: He's building for the future.

2079
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 4: It writes itself, it's too good. So season standings are

2080
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 4: as follows. Alex seventy two to thirty five and one,

2081
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 4: followed by Fred at seventy thirty seven and one, Mike

2082
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 4: sixty eight, thirty nine and one, Paul no longer in

2083
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 4: last place sixty three forty four and one, and Evan

2084
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 4: sixty forty seven and one in his winning so with

2085
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 4: the spread, Fred ten and five, followed by Alex and

2086
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 4: Paul at nine and six, Mike and Evan at eight

2087
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 4: and seven. So the spread, Fred just continues to run

2088
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 4: away with it sixty one and forty seven, follow by

2089
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 4: Paul now in second place fifty four and fifty four.

2090
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 4: The way adequate in my mediocrity, or as I like

2091
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 4: to say, my adequition.

2092
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 3: You wereway. I was fack And.

2093
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 4: You know what, I had a really good week going,

2094
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 4: and I took two upsets on Monday night and missed

2095
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 4: them both as a killer. So I'm second fifty four

2096
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 4: and fifty four, Alex fifty two and fifty six, Evan

2097
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 4: forty nine and fifty nine, and Poopy Pants forty seven

2098
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 4: and sixty one.

2099
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 1: Right back two back, two out of the gutter.

2100
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 4: All right, So that's where we stand.

2101
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 3: That's where we stand. Okay, So we start with tonight

2102
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 3: on Prime. It's the three and three Vikings at the

2103
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 3: four and three Chargers.

2104
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 4: Anybody have any injury information? The Charger is getting anybody back?

2105
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 4: No Chargers are faired by three and a half. I

2106
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 4: know that Wentz is playing again for the Vikings. But

2107
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 4: the Chargers just that offensive line that that poor guy

2108
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 4: that is it Decaloss deculous ye trying it. He's like

2109
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 4: their fourth tackle and he's like limping all over the place.

2110
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 4: They are just losing linemen like you read about.

2111
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, well that's what really interests me with Brian Flores

2112
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 11: and how aggressive he is and what I would row

2113
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 11: with this offensive line. You know, Chargers still have the

2114
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 11: quarterback advantage, and I love like the out of division,

2115
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 11: out of conference road game.

2116
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: You know, the travel away. I'm torn. I think I'm

2117
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna take the Chargers, but I'm gonna take

2118
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 1: the Minnesota hook. Take the point the three and a

2119
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: half with Minnesota. I think it's good use of the hook.

2120
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 1: Might I nailed it right?

2121
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 3: You didn't.

2122
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: Only took me six years.

2123
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 3: So the Vikings are getting three and a half. Correct.

2124
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with Vegas and just take the Chargers

2125
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 8: both ways.

2126
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 4: Oh boy, I'm gonna do the mic thing. I'm gonna

2127
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 4: take the Chargers to win, but I will take the hook.

2128
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 4: I am really struggling in these Thursday night games. I

2129
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 4: haven't really gotten many of them, right, I'm.

2130
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 3: Struggling with the Chargers and the Vikings this year. I

2131
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 3: don't know who they are. I thought the Chargers would

2132
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 3: be a little bit better. They've lost a couple of games.

2133
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 4: You can't lose the amount of players they have.

2134
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 3: Thought, Okay, yeah, I'm not really affected by it. I

2135
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 3: just look at the feel of the league. I don't

2136
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 3: get it.

2137
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to get a field. It's hard to

2138
01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 4: get a field for these teams, but I think it's

2139
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 4: because of so many problem personnel losses.

2140
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to stick with the idea that

2141
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh is a good head coach, not that the

2142
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 3: Vikings guy and Kelly he's pretty good too. But at home,

2143
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,719
Speaker 3: I got to take the Chargers here. I think they'll

2144
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,799
Speaker 3: cover the three and a hay all right, all right, Sunday.

2145
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:22,960
Speaker 3: This is at one o'clock. It's the one and six

2146
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 3: Dolphins at the three and three.

2147
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 4: Falcons, Atlanta by seven and a half.

2148
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 11: Paul, Sorry for this later information, but just to let

2149
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 11: you know, Harbos said it would come down to game

2150
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 11: day if Joe Alt and Trey Pipkins, their two starting.

2151
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: Tackles, would be available both our question and.

2152
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,440
Speaker 4: Just you know, Pipkins is back up. He's the third tackle.

2153
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 1: But he would be because he next places Slater.

2154
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, right, right, right, Okay, Sorry, back to the matter

2155
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 11: at hand.

2156
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 3: But good info, good, great, excellent info.

2157
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2158
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 11: I think Atlanta is a different team at home inside,

2159
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 11: and I think Miami is a different team on the road.

2160
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 11: And they're also not doing great. Every time two it

2161
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 11: get steps up to a microphone, I'm gonna take I'm

2162
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 11: gonna take Atlanta. It seems like Miami is in a

2163
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 11: free fall, about to be in a free fall in whatever.

2164
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 4: They are not making any moves anytime soon though. Atlanta

2165
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 4: both ways.

2166
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, please me too.

2167
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, Normally I wouldn't like to with a team

2168
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 4: like the Falcons be laying that amount of points, but

2169
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take Atlanta both ways.

2170
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 4: Miami is just yea in a bad way.

2171
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean the Falcons could get caught looking ahead

2172
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 3: like that. I knew that you would. I can always

2173
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 3: tell when you look at me first that something's coming.

2174
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 3: But I will go with the Falcons. I think they

2175
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 3: take care of business. The Dolphins are just I don't

2176
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 3: know what's going on there, but if mister Capripants makes

2177
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 3: it through the season, that'll be White defeat all right,

2178
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 3: one o'clock on Sunday the four and two Bears at

2179
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 3: the one in five Ravens. I know Lamar started practicing

2180
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 3: this week.

2181
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he practiced yesterday.

2182
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2183
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 4: But Baltimore is favored by six and a half.

2184
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 1: Oh jeez wow.

2185
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 4: So what are the sharps that Baltimore is good?

2186
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2187
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 3: Are they? Is he going to play? So do they

2188
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 3: know that?

2189
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 4: I would have said that he practiced, he's going to play.

2190
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 3: So that line tells us that he's going to play.

2191
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 4: I'm going to assume that he's playing. Okay, I do

2192
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 4: not have any information on that, so I don't want

2193
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 4: to I'm not holding out on you guys. I just

2194
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 4: he practiced. My guess is he's he going to play?

2195
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2196
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:40,560
Speaker 11: Lamar questionable, Call Hamilton questionable, DJ more questionable, DeAndre Swift questionable.

2197
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: Uh, that's an interesting game to me?

2198
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,759
Speaker 11: Is I think Baltimore's defense has been really really bad,

2199
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 11: and you know, I think Ben Johnson knows how to

2200
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 11: try to take advantage the advantage of those kind of things.

2201
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 1: You guys, I'm going with Chicago on this one.

2202
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 3: Who you guys.

2203
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 7: Shoot, I'm tempted to take the upset to but I

2204
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 7: feel like.

2205
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 8: This would be the week where I see like the

2206
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 8: Ravens have to get better at some point, So I'll

2207
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 8: take the Ravens to win the Bears to cover. Although

2208
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 8: I did see something on the Twitter x about a

2209
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 8: girl hiring an Etsy wish to put a curse on

2210
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 8: the Ravens because her ex was a Ravens fan and

2211
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 8: she did this in early September.

2212
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,839
Speaker 7: And she like on Etsy.

2213
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 3: I know the I.

2214
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 8: Guess witches put their services on Etsy.

2215
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 1: Team that seems unfair.

2216
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 4: Tots Witch, I'm sorry.

2217
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 3: Did you take Baltimore Baltimore Bears cover Chicago to cover? Okay?

2218
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 4: I wrote down the wrong team to cover. Okay. I

2219
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 4: am going to take Baltimore both ways. I just believe

2220
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 4: in the talent and I know that they're banged up.

2221
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 4: I know they've had a lot of issues. At some point,

2222
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 4: they got to stop playing better. But man, what I

2223
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 4: love to see because you know, I have a little

2224
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 4: defense mechanism for Caleb Williams. I'd love to see him

2225
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 4: go on the road and win a game like this.

2226
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I'm tempted to take the Bears as well,

2227
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna hedge my bed. I'll say that they

2228
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 3: it's a lose cover. Yep, right, that's what else lose cover,

2229
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 3: La lose cover.

2230
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:32,600
Speaker 4: I'm glad that you reminded me of that Fred's guarantee

2231
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 4: lose Louck cover of the week hit hit there you go, there,

2232
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 4: you got the Giants and they did cover.

2233
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 3: Oh God, by the skin of their teeth.

2234
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 1: He knew. He wasn't even worried. Watching the game is

2235
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 1: just like it'll be well.

2236
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 4: They had a nineteen point lead.

2237
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 3: He was cruising right away. Yeah, all right. So one

2238
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 3: o'clock on Fox, it's the four and two Bills at

2239
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 3: the four and three Anthers.

2240
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:08,719
Speaker 4: Buffalo by seven. No Bryce Young, but Andy Dalton, who's

2241
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 4: a regular rico. Do you know, it's not like they're

2242
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 4: playing with a stiff backup. He's a veteran back had

2243
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 4: some experience in the league.

2244
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 11: I'm gonna go Buffalo, and I'm gonna lay the points.

2245
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 11: I think I kind of feel like you feel about

2246
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 11: Baltimore with them. They just they gotta get in gear

2247
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 11: and start blowing doors.

2248
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:27,440
Speaker 7: Buffalo, Buffalo.

2249
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2250
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 4: I I just don't think Carolina is any good. But

2251
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 4: you know, win this game.

2252
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 1: Four teams that were beg to differ.

2253
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 4: You win this game, and you know, I have to

2254
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 4: eat my words. I'll take Buffalo.

2255
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Dalton gets has a lot of pressure

2256
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 3: this game. I think he's gets sacked at least four

2257
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 3: times in the game. So I think the Bills win.

2258
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:55,440
Speaker 3: The window is still closing, absolutely, but they win the Absolutely.

2259
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 3: They win this game and they cut One o'clock on

2260
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 3: CB it's the oh to seven Jets at the three

2261
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 3: and four.

2262
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 4: Bengals Cincinnati by six and a half.

2263
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco just a great story.

2264
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 4: It's just the greatest, greatest it old guy, I like.

2265
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 11: Did you see the press conference with him talking about

2266
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 11: like being the only guy, like a single guy.

2267
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 8: Guys eating by themselves and feel bad for them?

2268
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 7: Now I get it.

2269
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: Oh those guys are those guys are living life. Uh.

2270
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 1: I think Flacco at home keeps it going.

2271
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 11: Jets are similarly ad disaster guessing it's going to be

2272
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 11: Tyrod Taylor.

2273
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 1: We'll wait for Woody Johnson on that one. But I'll

2274
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 1: take Cincinnatilia the points one.

2275
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 7: More time for the spread six and a half. I'll

2276
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,560
Speaker 7: take the elite Joe Flacco both ways.

2277
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take Cincinnati both ways too. I think

2278
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 4: and I mentioned this last week, and they ended up

2279
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 4: one of the rare things that I got right.

2280
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 12: I thought.

2281
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 4: I thought Cincinnati looked like themselves in the second half

2282
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:03,719
Speaker 4: of that game, act green.

2283
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 3: Just like Joe Flacco.

2284
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 4: I do. And I think this is the and he

2285
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 4: you know, as he said, if you can't find a

2286
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 4: way to get those two guys involved, and you're not

2287
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 4: doing it right, right, it's not about Flacco. It's about

2288
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 4: there down there somewhere Cincinnati.

2289
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:23,679
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to take the Jets to cover, lose,

2290
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 3: but cover.

2291
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 4: Uh, they a tough one for you.

2292
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 3: They still have a good defense, but uh, I think

2293
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 3: that they stay within six songs.

2294
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 4: Might be out. Oh yeah, okay, possible.

2295
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 3: I'll again, I go with the field. I go with

2296
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 3: the field, and like, I can't go.

2297
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 4: It's a tough game for you. Hate that game?

2298
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:49,759
Speaker 3: Oh, I hate them both? Can they both lose.

2299
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:50,640
Speaker 4: A lot of hate involved in that.

2300
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I feel that the Jets will cover this game.

2301
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 1: Wilson and Hall both questionable needs.

2302
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 4: Wow, Oh Garrett Wilson, I believe it's out. I don't

2303
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 4: think he's going to play. I thought Sauce was hurt too.

2304
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 8: It thinks might be in the concussion proto call cha yeah, based.

2305
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 4: On the X Sauces and concussion protocol, but says questionable concussion.

2306
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I just like it bangles both ways.

2307
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 4: But now you're gonna yell at me.

2308
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,919
Speaker 1: Now we're no, no, no, it's new information.

2309
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 4: I was just trying to give you the information that

2310
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 4: I knew.

2311
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 7: I don't want to the whole round of the pick.

2312
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 4: So it's yeah, but I'm just worried about the Jets covering.

2313
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 4: And then he don't you said he wasn't playing he

2314
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 4: had three picks.

2315
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 1: That sounds just like.

2316
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 3: One o'clock on Fox, the five and two forty nine

2317
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 3: Ers at the two and four Texans.

2318
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 4: Houston by one and a half.

2319
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 1: Hous Oh boy. So really, I'm checking checking some of these.

2320
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 3: Somebody's got to be hurt here.

2321
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 4: Heard personal a lot of niners.

2322
01:43:58,240 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean.

2323
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 4: They were all hurt last week and they won.

2324
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2325
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 11: I just as long as Christian McCaffrey's healthy, I feel

2326
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 11: like they get the ball in his hand.

2327
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take San Francisco and they have set on

2328
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 1: the road.

2329
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 7: Me too.

2330
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll lose another one. Give me Houston.

2331
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 3: Really, just like I did last week, I'm gonna go

2332
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 3: with the text. I mean, the forty nine ers in

2333
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 3: this one one o'clock on Fox, the two and five

2334
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 3: Giants at the five and two Eagles.

2335
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:30,799
Speaker 4: Philly by seven and a half.

2336
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 1: That's a lot.

2337
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 11: As pre viewed earlier, I'm gonnake Philip you win, but

2338
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 11: I'm gonna take those points for the Giants. I just

2339
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 11: think Jackson Dart, little little feisty, they'll keep it close.

2340
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 7: Eagles. Yeah, yeah, give the points to the Giants.

2341
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Eagles to win going away.

2342
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,640
Speaker 4: I'll take them both ways. I think those games are

2343
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 4: hard for young teams to overcome. And and Billy just

2344
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 4: lost to the Giants. I think they have that on

2345
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 4: their minds as well.

2346
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 3: I like the Eagles big Yeah, me too. I don't

2347
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 3: think that. I mean you could say, oh, the Giants

2348
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 3: are going to be motivated, you know, because of what

2349
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 3: happened Stable broke a chair in the locker room, which

2350
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 3: I heard about.

2351
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean that would be another, a

2352
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 4: different way of responding. I kind of I likened it

2353
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 4: to the Bears last year, Fred when they lost that

2354
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 4: Hail Mary game to Washington and then kind of never

2355
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 4: won again.

2356
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 3: Yep, that happens, does But I'm gonna I'm gonna take

2357
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 3: the Eagles all right. Now, we skip over the Patriots

2358
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 3: at one o'clock and we moved to four h five.

2359
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 3: It's the five and two Buccaneers on Fox against the

2360
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 3: one and six.

2361
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 4: Saints Tampa by four and a half.

2362
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:54,679
Speaker 3: Another team might be looking ahead a couple of weeks.

2363
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:56,720
Speaker 1: Baker's already thinking about it.

2364
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,640
Speaker 3: Probably that's why it's kneeers.

2365
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take.

2366
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,600
Speaker 11: I'm gonna take Tampa the bank, bounce back against the

2367
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 11: division opponent.

2368
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 1: I will lay the points me too.

2369
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

2370
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 4: I think they had a terrible offensive performance Monday night,

2371
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 4: and I think they bounce back from it.

2372
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 3: Me too. Buccaneers four five, the three, three and one

2373
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 3: Cowboys travel guess where to Mile High for the Broncos

2374
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 3: for their eighth home game this season.

2375
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

2376
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 3: The five and two Broncos.

2377
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:37,600
Speaker 4: You know I used to give Freddy. I used to

2378
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 4: give Freddy some pushback on that. Right, every game they

2379
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:41,760
Speaker 4: play is at home.

2380
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

2381
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:44,639
Speaker 4: It is Broncos by three and a half.

2382
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 1: We got the footage of my helmet, you know, just

2383
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 1: to remind you.

2384
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 4: The footage the el you know what I'm married.

2385
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,560
Speaker 1: Is shoot.

2386
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,719
Speaker 11: This is a tough one man, two good offenses. Uh

2387
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 11: you know it probably moved the ball. But I'm gonna

2388
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 11: you know, went in doubt Denver at home. I'm gonna

2389
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 11: lay the points.

2390
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take Denver at home.

2391
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 1: But I I live dangerous.

2392
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 8: Huh yeah, I'm gonna hedge a little.

2393
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 4: I am not going to hedge. I I will take

2394
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 4: the Broncos to win. And that defense is is pretty good.

2395
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,360
Speaker 3: So you don't have to say I'm gonna take the

2396
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 3: Broncos at home. That's redundant.

2397
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, those two column deductive proofs that you used to

2398
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 4: have to do in like geometry. You know this is

2399
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:36,759
Speaker 4: a given.

2400
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,520
Speaker 3: But after I love after the last.

2401
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 4: Game, I said, no one ever anywhere.

2402
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 3: After what the Broncos did to the Giants. In the

2403
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:47,919
Speaker 3: words of Kevin Garnett, their whole team is saying anything

2404
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 3: is possible. So they went they win this game.

2405
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 4: Broncos.

2406
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 3: Broncos win. Yep uh fo on CBS the one and

2407
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 3: six Titans at the six and one Colts flying high.

2408
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 3: Best record in the NFL.

2409
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 4: Colts by fourteen.

2410
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 3: Oh lord folk, lordie.

2411
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 1: Well we just saw Tennessee play. Hude.

2412
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 11: I'm a little tempted to take the points just because

2413
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 11: it's a division game and but it's at Indy, and

2414
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 11: I feel like that. Jonathan Taylor, man, he's a nightmare.

2415
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 11: He is one one piece of running back. I'm gonna

2416
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 11: lay the freaking points. I can't believe it, but yeah,

2417
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:32,599
Speaker 11: me too.

2418
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 4: Oh do I try to steal one?

2419
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:39,840
Speaker 1: I do feel about cam word last week?

2420
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 4: Yea, yeah, at home? I think that they get some

2421
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 4: some turnovers too. Yeah, I'm gonna take Indy La the

2422
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 4: play folks.

2423
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 1: Jeffrey he might be questionable.

2424
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:55,560
Speaker 4: I mean hopefully, I mean he should be fresh. He

2425
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:57,559
Speaker 4: only played twelve plays because I think the.

2426
01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 3: Only chance they have is to break owns.

2427
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 11: The first listed is questionable right now, Listen is questionable.

2428
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 1: Same with Ridley.

2429
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 3: What did he roots for? I'm not rooting for it.

2430
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that that's that's the way they win,

2431
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:14,879
Speaker 3: not the quarterback out, not the old school football.

2432
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 4: Especially Anthony Richardson's not even available.

2433
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:17,639
Speaker 3: Right.

2434
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:19,719
Speaker 1: You've got seeds on iron. They had to put sneed

2435
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 1: on iron after last week.

2436
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what happens when you play the Patriots. That's

2437
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 3: a lot of points. But I'll take the Colts at

2438
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 3: home to cover Sunday night.

2439
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,719
Speaker 4: Just football, very short schedule.

2440
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 3: This This is NBC and they say NBC plus two,

2441
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:37,800
Speaker 3: but they don't say what the two. I'm assuming it's

2442
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 3: Universo and the Peacock, right Peacock. Yeah, it's the four

2443
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 3: one and one Packers at the four and two Steelers,

2444
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:50,439
Speaker 3: green Bay by three.

2445
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: Oh.

2446
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 11: Not a great game, but but a good game. It's

2447
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 11: Sunday sometimes game.

2448
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 3: This is a good FRED rooting game.

2449
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 11: Oh yeah really, Uh yeah, I'm gonna Rogers against the package, right,

2450
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 11: I'm gonna take Green Bay on the road.

2451
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: Just I still think Pittsburgh is smoking Mirror's kind of team.

2452
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, go pack go.

2453
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take the points I like. I like

2454
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:19,719
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh get home on a Sunday night. Rogers. Yeah, Rogers

2455
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 4: will be motivated. Yeah, I'm gonna take Pittsburgh.

2456
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 3: I am rooting hard for the Packers a because I

2457
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 3: want to see the Steelers lose and Aaron Rodgers lose.

2458
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 3: But also if continue right, this is this is playoff implications.

2459
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 4: Correct, Freddy, So, I am Patriots fan, should.

2460
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:45,719
Speaker 3: Be Packers win this game. Packers win this game. They

2461
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 3: maybe they knocked Rogers out of the game.

2462
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 4: You continuing to root for injuries really makes me uncomfortable.

2463
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:54,759
Speaker 3: I'm just predicting the future.

2464
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,480
Speaker 7: I'm gonna leave the show at T Dots.

2465
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: And maybe his head falls off. I don't know what.

2466
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Maybe it happens in the middle of

2467
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: the game.

2468
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:09,480
Speaker 8: You shouldn't hire nuts curses on all the teams you hate.

2469
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 7: We could call it like on the show.

2470
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 4: He wouldn't have the bandwidth to be able to support

2471
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 4: that the server.

2472
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask Evan if Clinis has a witch

2473
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 3: Witch Yeah, Monday Night. This is on ESPN plus three,

2474
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 3: so that's probably ESPN plus ABC. No, it wouldn't be ABC.

2475
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 1: Monday Night foot Player.

2476
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's only one this week. There's no double header,

2477
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 3: no double header that's summering.

2478
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 1: It might be the end of the double header that was.

2479
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 4: The last one. But I agree with spread that I

2480
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 4: like the games going at the same time, not necessarily right.

2481
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 3: The three and four Commanders, who Evans says it's over,

2482
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 3: they're done for the next.

2483
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 4: Decade because they went to the end of the right again.

2484
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 4: It just had a top five.

2485
01:51:56,600 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 3: Against Paul's team. He's a big Chiefs fan. The four

2486
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 3: and three Chiefs.

2487
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 4: Kansas City by twelve and a half. Oh wait, yeah,

2488
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 4: it's outing there, already cleared out sugar.

2489
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2490
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 11: I usually don't pick against Kansas City. I'm going to

2491
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 11: take Kansas City, and man, I laid fourteen points and

2492
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 11: I'm going to late twelve and a half.

2493
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 7: Okay, Chiefs at home, I guess both ways.

2494
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will take Kansas City, but I am going

2495
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 4: to take the points. Really, I think that's a lot

2496
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 4: of points, just a lot of points.

2497
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 3: Who they're back to playing Washington. I know who's Washington's

2498
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 3: backup Quarterbackice Mariota. I think that I think that you

2499
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 3: like it. I love it and I lose.

2500
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's okay, like I'm not doing.

2501
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 3: It trying to help you out, trying to help you.

2502
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 4: I think twelve and a half's a lot of it

2503
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 4: is a lot of point. Kansas City generally blows teams out.

2504
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,840
Speaker 4: They did last week. I think Kansas City plays a

2505
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:53,640
Speaker 4: lot of close.

2506
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 3: Direction of the chiefs going. They're starting to flex, they're

2507
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:57,680
Speaker 3: getting healthy.

2508
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 4: Right, I agree, And that's why I'm taking them to win.

2509
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,640
Speaker 3: And this is why the Sharps made that spread the

2510
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 3: way it is, because they know, Paul, you're gonna listen

2511
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 3: to the Sharps.

2512
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 1: It's pleading with you.

2513
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 3: I'll be wrong, Okay, it's okay.

2514
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 4: It's just a pen of help. There's nothing on the

2515
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 4: line here trying to help you. So you're taking Kansas

2516
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 4: City both ways.

2517
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:20,599
Speaker 3: You've got that right, all right? Now we move back

2518
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 3: to one o'clock. This is on Fox. It's the two

2519
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 3: and five Browns at the five and two Patriots.

2520
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:34,640
Speaker 4: Patriots by seven, biggest spread of the season.

2521
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 3: So far for the Patriots, I would say, right, is

2522
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 3: that true?

2523
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 1: They were? I think they're around there last week seven

2524
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 1: I think.

2525
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 3: So it's a big spread for the Patriots.

2526
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:44,439
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2527
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, I feel pretty good about this. I just, like

2528
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 11: I said, something interesting on both sides of the ball.

2529
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 11: You want to see Draco against the good defense, how

2530
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 11: they you know, pressure him.

2531
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna be aggressive, not a lot of room, just

2532
01:53:57,720 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 1: a good challenge.

2533
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 11: See what New England's offense has got in And then defensively,

2534
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 11: you know, can they just make this kid, you know,

2535
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 11: look like they should and you know, look like a

2536
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 11: rookie should, especially right out of the gate. But I

2537
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:12,439
Speaker 11: got the Patriots winning pretty easily. I'm going to say

2538
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:13,840
Speaker 11: New England twenty four to ten.

2539
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:15,840
Speaker 5: They were favored by seven last week.

2540
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 3: They were favored by seven last week on the road.

2541
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 7: Patriots twenty seven, Browns twelve. The Witch so I looked up,

2542
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:30,599
Speaker 7: we can it's a deal, you guys.

2543
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 1: Oh really?

2544
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:38,440
Speaker 8: Eleven fifteen custom spell from a NATSI witch. Wow, And

2545
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 8: it has great ratings eight twenty one reviews, four point

2546
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 8: seven stars out of five.

2547
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 7: That's a lot of reviews.

2548
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 3: There's a lot of curse people walking around.

2549
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 1: I know I have my stupid husband. I put a

2550
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 1: curse on it. She put a curse on him, and

2551
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: now he's dead. And there's night job.

2552
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 8: There's one that's like apology and reconciliation spell.

2553
01:54:57,120 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 7: You can get obsession and return spell. People are insane.

2554
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 3: And what's the cost eleven dollars.

2555
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 7: For a custom spell? Eleven?

2556
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 8: That's even It's fifty percent off right now. So I'll

2557
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 8: tell you just in time for the.

2558
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 4: I would Josh, I like the bogo Patrick Mahon bogos too.

2559
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 4: You buy one, get very worried about what Fred's about

2560
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 4: the churches.

2561
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 8: To make sure there's not a better deal before we

2562
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 8: make any purchases.

2563
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 4: But so, I'm going to absolutely take the Patriots to

2564
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 4: win this game, but I will take the points. I

2565
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 4: think there is a chance that this is a little

2566
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 4: bit lower scoring. I'm going to go twenty to sixteen Patriots,

2567
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 4: and maybe it's a backdoor cover for Cleveland. I think

2568
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 4: the Patriots will have the game in hand, but maybe

2569
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 4: the last score is Cleveland's and that gives you a

2570
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 4: cover like it.

2571
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if if a tornado wipes out Cincinnati, you

2572
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 3: know that I went to that site.

2573
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 4: Well, I just told you if I were Patrick Mahomes

2574
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 4: and Josh Allen, I would not be comfortable right now

2575
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 4: with Fred's future purchase on any New England.

2576
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 7: Men.

2577
01:56:01,640 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 8: Be nice to your girlfriends, your exes, your situationships.

2578
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 3: Please, situationships.

2579
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 4: It's okay, says the Princess.

2580
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 1: Come for you.

2581
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 4: Oh right, all right, oh.

2582
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, bring up. Listen. All week we've been talking about

2583
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 3: how good the Browns defense is. It is this is

2584
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 3: a great test for the Patriots offense, not so much

2585
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 3: for the Patriots defense this week. So as a result,

2586
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 3: I think I've heard a lot of similar scores, and

2587
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 3: I think there's a reason for that twenty to ten

2588
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 3: Patriots win this game, and very likely they don't even

2589
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 3: get ten.

2590
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 11: So do you do what do you think the chances

2591
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 11: are better to that the Patriots come out, play really

2592
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 11: well and you know, kind of assert themselves on both

2593
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 11: sides of the ball maybe and just build a little

2594
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 11: lead and then it's you know, kind of just maintain

2595
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 11: that lead, or do you think it's going to be

2596
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 11: close for a while, Like, do you think it's going

2597
01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 11: to be some fits and starts for the Patriots And

2598
01:56:58,160 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 11: maybe even I think it's going to be remnant.

2599
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 3: Listen of like four oh three, where you just know

2600
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 3: the Browns aren't going to be able to do it.

2601
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 3: So it might be close score wise, but you won't.

2602
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 3: It won't be uncomfortable. You won't feel uncomfortable.

2603
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 4: I agree with Fred. I could see it looking a

2604
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 4: little like last week, but never like You're never going

2605
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 4: to feel like the Patriots are in trouble because you're

2606
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 4: gonna look and you're gonna say, it's just not enough off.

2607
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 3: Now we're going to come out of this game saying

2608
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 3: we left stuff on the field. We've got to finish

2609
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 3: stuff like that.

2610
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:29,560
Speaker 4: You guys do that every week. I just we're professionally

2611
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 4: like you can't score every time you get the ball.

2612
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 3: But the Patriots moved to six and two. What yep?

2613
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 5: Six and ten?

2614
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 3: Yep? It is crazy number. And if my etsy stuff.

2615
01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 4: I just feel like they were going to be Daniel

2616
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 4: Jones out four to three. I'm not five to two

2617
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 4: like the Buffalo game is the one.

2618
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:53,200
Speaker 3: D Yeah, I don't. I don't do positives, okay.

2619
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 11: No, And I mean and I I it's landed on

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Speaker 11: nine to eight at some point this summer, and that's

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Speaker 11: what I would say. But even still just to hear

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Speaker 11: like the chance here in October to get your six

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Speaker 11: win when it was like impossible.

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Speaker 1: To get wins the last two years.

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Speaker 4: It's still just jarring.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's going to be it for the show.

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Speaker 3: I want to remind people sign up for the Patriots

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Speaker 3: Patriots Unfiltered newsletter by going to Patriots dot com slash

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Speaker 3: PU newsletter. We'll have one coming out tomorrow. Anything good

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Speaker 3: that you want to preview?

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Speaker 7: Ax, maybe some which things. I think I'm going to

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Speaker 7: send the questions I sent to you guys this week.

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Speaker 7: That might be on hold till next week because I

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Speaker 7: realized the next newsletter is on Halloween.

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Speaker 4: You have my answers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take up a picture for you to.

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Speaker 3: Now are you going to ask us what would be

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Speaker 3: our etsy spell?

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Speaker 7: That we that's the tease.

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Speaker 1: That one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to put injuries in writing. I

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Speaker 3: think I think we all know what no no from

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Speaker 3: our own team. You can't be representing the Patriots and

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01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 3: wishing injuries talking want to answer you all right, Thanks

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Speaker 3: for watching this week. Have a good weekend everybody. We'll

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Speaker 3: see you next Tuesday.

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Speaker 7: Hey, this is Alex. Thanks for tuning into the show.

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Speaker 7: Also, make sure you follow.

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Speaker 8: this show and everything else we do here at the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Thanks a lot,