1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to Brainstuff, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey brain Stuff, 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: Lauren Vogelbaum. Here just a heads up. Today's episode is 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: a heavy one. We speak frankly about mental health in 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: general and suicide prevention in particular. If that's not something 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: you're up for today, go ahead and skip this one. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: And hey, take care of yourself. Okay, okay. Americans have 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: come grimly to abide, if not necessarily, accept the fact 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: that suicide is a societal problem. We understand that it's 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: a national issue, a dangerous and growing one. We whisper 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: about it, we grieve when it affects us, and often 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: we just try to move on. To be sure, there 12 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: are many who spend their lives trying to help those 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: who struggle with mental health. For the rest of us, though, 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: it is probably well passed time to recognize that the 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: increasing issue of suicide and America is both serious and solvable. So, 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: to borrow a phrase from the harm reduction community, let's 17 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: talk about it. For the article. This episode is based 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: on How Stuff Works. Spoke by email with Deb Stone, 19 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: a behavioral scientist in these Centers for Disease Control and 20 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: Preventions Division of Violence Prevention. She said Suicide prevention requires 21 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: a comprehensive approach that addresses risk and protective factors at 22 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: multiple levels, including societal, community relationship, and individual levels. There's 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: a role for everyone in the community. The CDC's latest 24 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: findings on that illuminates the scope of the suicide issue 25 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: in the US. Among those facts, the American suicide rate 26 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: increased thirty six percent between the year two thousand and 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty two, forty nine thousand, 28 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy six Americans died by suicide, which 29 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: is about one death every eleven minutes. That's about twice 30 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 1: as many homicides as we had that year. Another one 31 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: point six million Americans attempted suicide. It is the ninth 32 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: leading cause of death in the US for people ages 33 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: ten to sixty four years of age, and the second 34 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: leading cause of death for people ages ten to fourteen 35 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: and twenty five to thirty four. Mental health experts have 36 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: asked the media to avoid using sensationalistic wording like skyrocketing 37 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: or epidemic to characterize the rise in suicides. Still, suicide 38 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: is a clear and increasing public health issue facing that 39 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: might be the first step in combating it, but facing 40 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: it means acknowledging something else too. A researchers found that 41 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: more than half of those who die by suicide don't 42 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: have a diagnosed mental health condition. Of course, having a 43 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: diagnosis of a chronic condition is not the only factor here, 44 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: but it's an important one that needs to be addressed. 45 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: How Stuff Works also spoke back in twenty eighteen with 46 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: Jennifer Pain, the director of the Women's Mood Disorder Center 47 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: and an associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at 48 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: Johns Hopkins Medicine in Baltimore. As she said, there's a 49 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: stigma associated with psychiatric illness that really needs to go away. 50 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: It's one of the most common illnesses that people have. 51 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: People are reluctant to get treatment and seek out care 52 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: partially because of that stigma. If we got rid of 53 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: the stigma associated with psychiatric illness, then I think that 54 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: would result in people getting better mental health treatment and 55 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: hopefully a lowering of the suicide rate. However, our overall 56 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: mental health is made up of a lot of factors, 57 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: and there are lots of stressors that are associated with suicide, 58 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: like relationship problems, the loss of a loved one substance misuse, 59 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: physical health problems, barriers to health care access, financial woes, employment, stress, discrimination, bullying, 60 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: and experiences of violence, especially during childhood. Access to deadly 61 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: means such as opioids and firearms is another risk factor, 62 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: as these make it less likely to recover from a 63 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: suicide attempt. On a macro level, slowing the braid of 64 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: suicides falls largely on public health agencies, but they can't 65 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: turn the tide alone. A stone with the CDC was 66 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: the lead author of a twenty seventeen report called Preventing 67 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: Suicide a Technical Package of policy, programs and practices. In it, 68 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: the authors wrote sectors vital to implementing this package include, 69 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: but are not limited to, education, government, local, state, and 70 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: federal social services, health services, business, labor, justice, housing, media, 71 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: and organizations that comprise the civil society sector, such as 72 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: faith based organizations, youth serving organizations, foundations, and other non 73 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: governmental organizations. Collectively, these sectors can make a difference in 74 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: preventing suicide by impacting the various contexts and underlying risks 75 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: that contribute to suicide. So that's a lot. On a 76 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: micro level, we can all try to be kind to 77 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: ourselves and others in this fractured world and look out 78 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: for each other. Warning signs that a person might be 79 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: contemplating suicide include, perhaps obviously, things like talking about wanting 80 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: to die or about having no reason to live, or 81 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: looking for a way to kill themselves, such as searching 82 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: online or buying a gun. Butt signs also include talking 83 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: about feeling hopeless or trapped or in unbearable pain, or 84 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: being a burden to others, increasing the use of alcohol 85 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: or other drugs, acting anxious or agitated, having recklessly extreme 86 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: mood swings, sleeping too little or too much, withdrawing or 87 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: isolating themselves, showing rage, or talking about seeking revenge. If 88 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: a loved one is exhibiting any of those signs, experts 89 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: say that it's best to approach the situation head on 90 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: the stone said. One of the simplest ways to determine 91 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: this is to ask directly, are you thinking about suicide? 92 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: But asking the question won't put the thought in someone's 93 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: head who wasn't previously thinking about suicide, and it can 94 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: be a relief for the person to open up about 95 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: their struggles. Asking is the first of five steps that 96 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: the Suicide Prevention Lifeline suggests anyone trying to help should 97 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: know the other four are be there, keep them safe, 98 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: help them connect, and follow up. Paine said, what you 99 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: don't want to do is play the don't ask, don't 100 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: tell game. You're not going to regret getting someone the 101 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: appropriate care. I think that if you really care about 102 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: someone and you're really concerned, then you do everything that 103 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: you can to get them to treatment, including insisting on it. 104 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Speaking personally, as someone who's been on both sides of 105 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: conversations like these, I can tell you that it can 106 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: be awkward. But the worst case scenario is that someone 107 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: knows you're thinking about them and hopes you're okay, and 108 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: that if you're not, that there is hope that you 109 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: will feel better, and that there are ways to achieve that. 110 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: The CDC Understone's Technical Package, has instituted a seven step 111 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: strategy to help different sectors build programs to prevent suicides. 112 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: These include strengthening economic supports, strengthening access to and delivery 113 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: of suicide care, the creation of protective environments, promotion of connectedness, teaching, 114 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: coping and problem solving skills, identifying and supporting people at 115 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: risk and lessening harms and preventing future risk in the end. 116 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Solving such a complex public health issue will demand a 117 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: lot of work from a lot of people, and all 118 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: of them will have to be stubbornly unwilling to simply 119 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: move on. If you or someone you know is having 120 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: thoughts about suicide, google Suicide Prevention for resources in your area, 121 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: from phone to text, to chat, to fact sheets with 122 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: conversation points to organizations near you, and if you're in 123 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: the US, you can dial or text the number nine 124 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: eight eight and again take care of yourself. Today's episode 125 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: is based on the article the US needs to have 126 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: an Ongoing Conversation about suicide on HowStuffWorks dot com, written 127 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: by John Donovan. 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